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A one-time leading Bronx priest is suing the Archdiocese of New York for libel, claiming the sex abuse allegations he once faced are false, and that church officials knew it when they repeated them in a public news release.
In his court filing, Charles Kavanaugh says his chief accuser recanted allegations he made in 2002 that Kavanaugh molested him when he was a teen during a church trip to Washington, D.C. "The statement was not true, and I apologize for it," one-time accuser Daniel Donohue wrote in a sworn statement submitted in federal court.
Donohue had claimed Kavanaugh jumped into his bed in the D.C.-area hotel room and rubbed against him. Donohue also said that when Kavanaugh held his hands during prayer, it made him uncomfortable.
"The pointed finger has come back. He has withdrawn the only allegation against Monsignor Kavanaugh," said Kavanaugh’s attorney John Dearie.
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For 10 years, Kavanaugh fought to clear his name. He originally filed a lawsuit against Donohue but dropped it after Donohue admitted his story about what happened 30 years ago was false. Kavanaugh was convicted at a church trial.
In May, Catholic Church spokesman Joseph Zwilling said in a news release that Kavanaugh deserved to be kicked out of the church because there were "multiple counts" of sexual abuse.
"That is a flat-out lie. There are not multiple counts of sexual abuse of a minor," said Kavanaugh’s sister and attorney Ann Mandt. "And that’s why we sued them. Because it is a lie." Zwilling said Wednesday that church attorneys are now reviewing the defamation lawsuit.
"I stand by the truthfulness and accuracy of my May 1, 2012, statement," he said. Kavanaugh had been vicar of development for the Catholic Church in New York and served for more than 40 years as a priest. His last post was head of St. Raymond’s Church in the Bronx before he was kicked out and convicted in a secret church trial.
For the last decade, Kavanaugh has called allegations against him "false" and repeatedly has demanded a "full and fair hearing" in public. His attorneys say they in part blame former Cardinal Egan, who they said was under scrutiny for allegations he mishandled abuse charges by other priests when he led the church in Connecticut.
Kavanaugh lost his job, his home and his pension and now counts on friends' help and support in Florida where he now lives. His one-time accuser Donohue did not return calls for comment.
Kavanaugh’s lawsuit seeks damages against the archdiocese and Zwilling, as well as the "Catholic New York" publication and its editor, which published Zwilling’s comments.
"We have evidence that this man is innocent. The accuser admitted it," said Mandt. "We’re not asking for the benefit of the doubt. … We’re asking for justice. Give an innocent man justice." Kavanaugh’s attorneys claim after a decade of being falsely scorned, he still wants his old job back.
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Great. So the church covered up for guilty priests and, apparently, destroyed an innocent person. I think I'll just continue believing in god in my own way and let organised religion go to hell in its own hand basket.
There seems to be a history of "witchhunts" with the church. Just odd they would hide and protect real molesters and yet "crucify" one who appears innocent...how ironic.
Great post! I feel the same way.
LTC Rattus, USA, ret.
It is unfortunate that this man seems to have suffered from someones lies. It's not and won't be the first nor last time. During the beginnings of the Church sex abuse scandal, it was impossible for the public not to believe all the victims. Just like the Salem witch trials. Only when the accusations focused on the wife of the town's leader and others as well, did common sense start to prevail and the guilt of people begin to be questioned.Sadly, too late for all those who had already died. Ironicly, it looks as if greed for property turns out to have been the major motive for those most of those targeted. Clearly, common sense has always been in short supply and the public emotions are easily influenced in error when facts are not used.
When the public eye is focused on seeking justice, it is easily blinded. The degree of objectively towards the suspect is inversely related to the age, sex and social status of the victim. As well as the role the suspect plays in their life. In addition to how the public feels towardsthe suspects life which the public can relate with. So, we have what's call the public court of opinion trials.
Rarely, when the truth comes out someone is innocent, does the public remember its mistakes. Plus, forget about any apologizes later.No one will admit their hasty judgments were wrong. It doesn't sell papers. A cautionary tale the public would do well to remember.
I'm surprised anybody wants to be Catholic anymore!
Gary: Ever try to un-Catholicize? The guilt taught from birth is a stickler.
I agree with you .Organized religion is the biggest rip off in modern day society ,for all of you sunday or one or two time a year christians .One question.Who drives the nicest car in the congregation ??????
Windancersong said:
Correction: When the public eye is focused on seeking vengeance, it is easily blinded.
If they were seeking justice, they would make sure that the person was guilty. This man's case shows otherwise.
Now if only we could sue for Libel over all these stories the Media is putting out concerning the Presidential campaign. Now that would be something to look forward to!
John,
I see that you love sterotypes. All the churches I ever went to (I dont attend any anymore) the pastor was actually quite poor. Hell, we are family friends with a pastor, who only got a car because people from the church got one donated to him. Some priests and pastors milk the churches for money, a vaste majority live quite meagerly.
This is always an eventual problem in our sue happy society.
Sure we've got problems with the Catholic church covering for some bad priests. As time goes on the number of innocent people caught up in the entire knee jerk reaction is going to start equaling the number of bad priests removed or held accountable. Once the multi-million dollar payouts started hitting the news the gab flies and gold diggers were on that like white on rice. One of the big reasons these 'older' abuse claims should be kept well out of civil court and only handled as criminal investigations.
Hate to burst a bit of a bubble, but if you were molested at 12 and at 45 you're bringing it up, a settlement or judgement is not going to 'make things better' from the person you are. Yet somehow in society people are suppose to believe that 10 million suddenly makes it all go away, or is some type of compensation for what occurred. It isn't proper compensation, it doesn't make it go away, and it usually just punishes the people and parishioners that are in the church 'now' rather then enact any type of 'justice'.
Jail for the guilty parties is what gives and should give proper closure to these individuals, not dead presidents.
earthgirl1; I know where that's at. The beas thing to do is don't look back. If you liked church, as I did, try the Episcopal Church. Catholic light plus no politics.
It's so good to know that hypocrisy is still alive and well in the Catholic Church!
Gary Columbus, you say you're surprised anyone wants to be Catholic anymore. I can't say I blame you one bit, but I do want to continue to be Catholic. I hope your interest spurs you to read on...
The Catholic Church, translated as "Universal Church", in the sense of its true meaning, was founded by Jesus Christ, with its faith and teaching as the foundation. That faith, and the teaching, from the Gospels and the Catechism, has not been tarnished. What is from satan is the culture that grips the administration of the Church. It started when the administration sold the Church to Constantine in the 4th century, and has continued unabated ever since. There's no reason to equate the two, much as the administration would like for us to do that. One is pristine, the other is a cesspool. There's a miracle there too. For further reading, check out mgr.org. It has helped me clarify things very well.
reading this and other articles, it's clear that this was not the only accusation of abuse against this man, imagine a lawyer trying to say otherwise. Gotta love catholics, biggest bunch of corrupt religious hypocrites ever to walk the planet.
I too wish to continue to be a faithful Catholic. The faith is beautiful and, for one who searched around a bit, makes the most sense to me. There's a vast difference between the Catholic Faith and the members there of. The members (as is true with everyone in every corner of the world) are sinners and saints and everything inbetween. People are sinners, some small and some really serious. Jesus, Himself had handpicked person that betrayed him. But He established a church here on earth that "the gates of hell would not prevail against" - will also prevail against sinful members within the chruch itself.
The sex abuse scandle has rocked every Catholic, even the great percentage of faithful priests. While some priests have broken our trust (never in God or the church), there is a GREAT number of priests that are faithful and holy men. And for those men, and for those damaged by the abuse at the hands of anyone, I feel the most pain for.
If this priest is innocent of the charges made against him, he deserves his due. And by the sounds of the article alone, he's been wrongfully acused.
"Great. So the church covered up for guilty priests and, apparently, destroyed an innocent person. I think I'll just continue believing in god in my own way and let organised religion go to hell in its own hand basket."
Agreed,
J
leftcenterright; as I read it, his sister is his lawyer.
Catholic guilt (brought on by church teachings) is a prison in your own mind from which you will never be freed.
On a side note; teaching a little kid about Hell, should be a crime also...abuse is abuse.
imagine the bishop who finally got caught in Philadelphia he had a list of 34 priest that were in hiding all child molestors.. when will all this stop.. a monsignor in Rome.. fathered 4 children and molested young new priest that cam to his little school. he also had some pretty racy things going on in that private school . his head priest also fathered a child out of wedlock..is taking a years leave of absence to help raise his child ... and you all do realize not one of the catholics running for political office has mentioned.. yet they want the catholic church in the government.. what a joke that is....... but the entire world knows that the POPE is now using a wheelchair.. lucky for me I also use a wheelchair
KRACKONDACK.. it is the entire church that is guilty.. I have never seen one article about members of the church do ANYTHING to correct this problem... yet you were all outraged over the SANDUSKY case.. blaming everyone.. so there are more than 2,000 priests out there that are pedophiles.. so do something..
GREENEYED you forgot BIGOTRY.. ..and news that Jesus had a wife.. their statues are falling because the administration LIES LIES and the sheep follow them..
What I'll never understand is how in religion, the flock can separate their faith from the politics that go on in every church....HOW? You are what you support.
As long as the politicians in the Catholic Church stand behind invading Mexicans who are stealing US resources from the American poor, THEN, give these RATS Holy Communion like everything is OK because God follows OBAMA's policy and gives Mexicans deferred hell.
DREAM on earth, BURN eternally.
It is man's greatest sin not to know his responsibility to GOD.
Sad Story, hope you (if truly innocent) get your opportunity to clear your name. Always remember God Knows all...
WHAT?!!!
no problem here. If they want to cover up the guilty, and convict the innocent, won't it all just average out on the scale of justice?
I have no use what-so-ever for organized religion. All organized religion is about is people trying to make money off your faith. I have no issues with faith and feel that people should follow their beliefs in that area. I do not, however, think that there is any need to go to a specific building once a week or give money to an organization for someone to practice their faith. I think that if more people focused on their actual faith and ignored all the religious dogma, the world would be a much better place. Faith is about what you believe and how you lead your life, these are the important things. I also find the Catholic church to be a bunch of hypocrites. To them it is all about dogma and religion, not about true faith and leading a good life. How can it be OK to go out and commit sins so long as you confess them to a priest and say a few Hail Marys or Our Fathers as penance and all is OK and forgiven. It should be about leading a good life and treating people the way you want to be treated, not about money and ritual.
I find it very telling that they protected these pedophile priests for years, mostly to preserve their income. The reason for protecting these priests and covering up what they did was because they feared losing members from the churchand the dollarsthey represented. Now they have perscuted smeone who appear to be innocent, again in the name of political correctness, not doing what is right.
So they protect the child molesters but when you get a straight guy doing the right thing he is voted out?? The circle of injustice is complete.
How do you know he's straight, and what does that have to do with whether or not he molested anyone? You don't. And, it doesn't. There have been, and are, gay and straight molesters. They don't don't do it because of their orientations. That said, I hope this guy wins his case.
"So they protect the child molesters but when you get a straight guy doing the right thing he is voted out??"
It almost seemed like your implying the entire catholic church has to come together to make these decisions or something. I imagine they take more of a local approach to these sorts of things.
One Question, your humility is bankrupt with what you just wrote.
the big question ONE QUESTION... incidents such as this are taken care of not swept under the carpet..and it's not local kind of thing.. all this trash goes to the pope.. he and the archbishop make the decisions as to where the so called priest gets hidden... ioncident in ridley park PA a number of years ago the leader of the arch diocese and the pope made the decision to send this SINNER PRIEST to rome.. he is still there and the 11 boys he molested have to live with that..
job? job? .....so much for his "calling" .........................:)
Surprise surprise . . . there are actually "jobs" to be done w/i the Church -- some serve as parish priests; others are administrators who run the Church's programs -- loads of them, including many that serve the poor in many communities.
won't take long to find more kids that were molested.. and this false accuser needs to go to jail
pension?
man i just gotta get into this whole religious racket..... ...................:)
Yes, pension. Instead of making payment to social security (a tax,) part of the pay of priests and ministers usually consists of payment into a pension fund. The priest or minister does not receive social security and is usually not eligible for medicare. Because social security and medicare are taxes, and the Constitution calls for a separation of church and state, the state can't tax religion.
If you truly feel the calling to become a priest, I suggest you give up your day job, go to college for four years and then go to seminary for several more years, then, assuming you do not join an order which has a vow of poverty, you will earn a starting salary ranging from $15,000 to $35,000 per year.
However, as Jesus said, "Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me." Mark 8:34.
To deny this man his livelihood, his true calling, and yes his pension based on a lie is just wrong.
Yes, pension. Priests have to retire some day too. Do you think they dont get paid for being a priest?
Oh, and by the way, many people studying for the priesthood have to pay their own way--accruing thousands of dollars of debt--and are not allowed to become priests until they have paid off all that debt (one's vow of poverty means that one won't be earning money to pay it off).
Most retired priests live in "old folks homes" with other retired priests. They aren't exactly jetting off to the south of France.
The word "pension" doesn't usually mean "wealthy." In England, the word "pensioner" has about the right meaning--a retired person living on a fixed income. Pensions have to be paid into by the person who earns them--the bad thing about them is that, unlike an IRA, they can be taken away from one at the very last minute. So, the company or government body gets to keep all the money that was taken out of one's salary--whether one wanted it out or not--just by finding an excuse to fire a person shortly before the person retires.
The military also has pensions. What do you think a "pension" is--money that falls off a tree? It's not a trust fund, m'dear. It's earned money that is invested by other people and which one doesn't get any say over--it stinks. I'd rather have portability--as most employers these days will steal whatever they can, and that includes the Roman Catholic church.
Well, if there were "multiple counts" of sexual abuse, 1- When were they made? and 2- Why were they not addressed immediately?
Sounds more like the "church" is trying to defend what is a witch hunt wherein innocents were caught up in a 20th Century INQUISITION. Not that the church would know about or condone anything like that.
Also, if there were "multiple counts" of sexual abuse, then the church would have been legally obliged to make those incidents known to law enforcement (real law enforcement, not the church inquisition). So that means that either the church is lying about the abuse, or they broke the law in not reporting it. Either way, SCUM.
Maybe they were reported but the victims were afraid to push it so the prosecutor couldn't do anything about it. Sex crimes are the most under-reported crime and it's worse when the victim is a child. Many victims report the crime but then back out when it gets too difficult to handle. There is something that is not right here. If there is only one accuser who is now recanting his story, why wouldn't the church clear his name? This priest has been trying to clear his name for 10 years and has now brought a lawsuit against the church for defamation. There is a lot to this story that is not being told - why would the church risk being sued when all they had to do was issue a statement?
Or maybe there was no abuse and the original accuser had thought he might be able to make some money, but later recanted his story. The Church should never have made any statement which it could not back up with facts. If it does not want to do the right thing on its own, this man has every right to clear his name in a court of law. If the Catholic Church had not made public statements, which it refuses to reverse and take back, it would not have to defend itself in public.
followed of course by a good old fashioned stoning............................
Oh great......they are forced to offer someone up and they select the one guy that DIDN'T do it......and the Pope claims to speak for the Holy Spirit?? Puh-leeze!
don't know who this pope guy is, but last night i embellished in some "spirits" boy did the ol lady "speak" about it, guess you could say she got all "holy" on my a$$..........
Out of both sides of his mouth.
I have absolutely no idea if this guy is innocent or not, what I do know is that this is one persons presentation of the facts that puts him in the best light. I am amazed that people here will take this presentation of the facts by the accused and come to any type of decision. I can not see any person here on a jury, for it seems that their minds are made up because someone said something that sounds good to them. It saves the time to wait for all the facts.
"I have absolutely no idea if this guy is innocent or not, what I do know is that this is one persons presentation of the facts that puts him in the best light."
What do you mean you have no idea if he's innocent or not? The little terd who accused him admitted to lying about it! Sheesh, stop trying to find holes in a story that should have never happend. Let the poor guy alone.
I wish I could get people to come to my house each week and give me money and give me a pension and a house to boot. I think I might have to rethink this Atheist thing I have going on here. The Catholic Church seems to be a much better paying job.
Dave, first of all the Church does NOT provide priests with a house. He either bought with his earnings, just as you or I would. Secondly the money collected at Mass DOES NOT go to the priest. The majority goes to the Archdiocese and a portion goes to the maintenance of the Parish buildings. Additionally a priests pay is not even close to what someone in a lay job would get. And frankly I would bet that when you found the hours a priest puts in every day you wouldn't want that job.
As for this issue, people forget that witchhunts and inquisitions go both ways. The Church was castigated and dragged though the mud (and still is) regarding abuse allegations and most dioceses felt the need to "clean house" of any suspected abusers in thier midst. Unfortunately good and innocnet priest were hurt by false accusations. As for those that made those false allegations, they ruined many lives just to make money and lot of it hundreds of thousands if not millions in some cases.
The Church was guilty of coverups and should have been takedn to task for that, but the media and general attitude toward the Church is just as unjust and repugnant. First of all the vast majority of abuse cases were NOT pedophilia but what is call ephebophilia. There is a difference, if you are really interested inunderstanding what is really going on I suggest you look it up. Secondly the Church had not more abuse cases as a group than other religious orders or organizations that dealt with children and yound adults. Of course none of these facts were mentioned in the media - it seems truth doesn't sell.
Just Shaking: It appears you're trying to soften the actions of the church. The abuses that have come to light the last 20+years cover a century of abuses, not just the past few years. Your justification by comparison with other religious orders is called "false equivalency." It appears also the main difference is that the Church would prefer the sexual abuse be called ephebophilia rather than what it really is, pedophilia. The Church can then hide under the 'age of consent' clause rather than the ciminality of the priests' actions.
earthgirl--"pedophilia" is when someone finds children under the age of puberty to be sexually attractive. "Ephebophilia" is when someone finds children between puberty and the age of consent sexually attractive.
The vast majority of cases involved adolescent boys. So, yes, it was "ephebophilia" in most cases. Young men over the age of consent were, well, over the age of consent and (at the time) fair game before there were laws regarding people "in a position of trust" and those between the age of consent and 18.
There is no false equivalency to pointing out that the media focuses on the "rampant sexual abuse of minors" in the Catholic church when there is no greater rater of pedophilia and ephebophila in the Church than in any other religious group (around 5%, lower than average for the general population). Other groups have also hidden abuse by their members--the BSA is about to get their own little field day with that. Anyone who thinks that abuse hasn't taken place for centuries in every religious group out there is foolish. It is still taking place--and is sanctioned by some (look up Warren Jeffs).
There have been, in fact, innocent priests who got on the bad side of the bishop or on the bad side of the Vatican who were offered up as bait to the media in order to deflect attention from the bishops themselves or from their little toadie priests who had been abusing children. It sounds to me like this guy got on someone's bad side, someone egged a young man into making up a story, the Church came out sounding as if they were on the side of the good and the true, and this man got his whole life pulled out from under him.
There is some poor priest who went to jail for 15 years after patting the behind of a little boy at a swimming pool party--he was right out in front of everyone, not exactly doing something surreptitious. Patting small children on the behind is primate behavior--not sexual behavior--and 15 years for that is pretty danged ridiculous.
Anyone who hasn't yet figured out that the Catholic church is using the "sex scandal" to purge itself of priests and others it does not like (who are not "orthodox" enough), in order to continue to cover up for the priests and others that it does like, is pretty darned naive.
I'm loving this double standard: the RCC *doesn't* act and it's evil. It acts, and it's evil.
Hmm.
Now you're getting it. It is simply evil. Period.
That's not a ValidViewpoint, given all the charitable works. (Or is running soup kitchens and shelters evil, too?)
No it's not a double standard. You're leaving out important facts and engaging in a false equilvancy. When these alligations surfaced, the church acted and dismissed the person. When those alligations were proven false they didn't act and reinstate him. It wasn't the act that was evil, it was their lack of action that was and is evil.
Having a few charitable works doesn't change the fact the church is still evil. By your logic the fact Al Capone helped out the community as PR means he's not evil.
Mark, that doesn't sound like a double standard to me. It sounds like a single standard. No matter what the Church does, it is "evil." Yuck! Yuck!
No the Church isn't perfect. Which religion is. That is the problem with faith based system. That and the fact they are run by human beings with all the attendant frailties.
Uhmm, the pope is infallible, remember?
@ValidViewpoint: The Pope is infallible in matters of the faith. That is, Papal decisions on religion are unquestionable (IE: Women can't be priests within the Roman Catholic Communion).
Bishops, Priests, College Football coaches and high school teachers aren't infallible, either.
In the first place, even the pope's statements can be questioned. That's called "freedom of speech". If you don't like it, go to Iran or some other place where you can't ask questions about religion. Second football coaches and high school teachers aren't part of a centuries old institution involved in covering up child abuse. The RCC is.
Mark
Drill Sergeants are infallible! LOL
Mark from Bridgeport
I will submit that the Pope is
only until another Pope comes along that decides his predecessor was not infallible and makes a change to the previously infallible decision.
@totherepublic: Well, while you're in boot camp... they are! :-)
@XDm9mm: While that does (rarely) occur, it's by far the exception. I think we can all agree that John Paul II was right to un-excommunicate Galielo!
I'll wait to hear how this plays out. If you read the story, the Church says he deserved to be kicked out because there were multiple counts of sexual abuse. The priest's sister says that's a lie because there weren't "multiple counts of sexual abuse of a minor". She added the "of a minor" to her denial, the common legal trick of changing the accusation in the denial.
Regardless of how this plays out, it's just more proof that the Church has lost all of its moral authority. It has no right to make moral pronouncements on any topic.
These days being kicked out of the Catholic Church as a Priest instead of going to jail for them is a plus on your resume...just sayin'.
How can he sue the Church over a lie when the whole concept of religion is based on a lie ?
Depends on which religion. It is not the base of a religion that is the lie, it is what that religion turns the base into that is the lie. Spirituality is God given, religion is human made. Unless of course you believe you have no spirit, then you are just lump of mindless biomass not much different than a slug. I have a higher opinion of myself than that, I hope you do of yourself as well.
You mean, like which end of a turd is clean?
The Catholic Church is the biggest fraud and criminal organization in the world and the GD thing is tax exempt.
rattus
And then there are those that are no more Spiritually gifted than a slug.
To Republic:
I am sorry, howver, I do not understand your reply.
V/r,
Rat
right on target .
...I don't see one post here casting any blame on the snivelling, greedy queer who falsely accused this priest of molesting him in the beginning and started all this trouble. ...What a sorry state of affairs in this world today.
Good point.
OMgosh the poor man.. U bet ur AZZ they'd hav to pay.... let go from a secret church tribunal no less???? I'm a roman catholic and work at church and I hav NEVER heard of such a thing !!!
And the Vatican and local Cardinals do everything out in the open for public scrutiny.
OK... sarcasm button turned off now.
Another gleaming example of how the catholic church manipulates anything that will cut into their take. And pretty obvious that they do NOT care who they destroy in their efforts to keep this racket going. I would think twice about returning to that job, though. Poor man..... spent a lifetime working for someone, and they throw him out with yesterday's garbage.
The Catholic Church defrocks a priest or drives him out of the Catholic Priesthood THE VERY FIRST TIME THE OFFENDING PRIEST SHOWS ANY INDICATION THAT HE IS A FAITHFUL AND HONEST MAN THAT REALLY WANTS TO HELP THE POOR.
This guy shoud be Pope.
LTC Rattus, USA, ret.
rattus
So when a soldier questions your orders? And be careful about your comment to this...I have worked for Generals.
CSM USA RET (27 years)
Rattus and totherepublic, Thank you for your service...
SGM,
Thank you for your service to our nation. Well, I am in my second year of a Master of Social Work graduate program and retired from the Army. Therefore, I know longer have that responsibility and terrible burden.
What would I do if one of my Soldiers questioned my orders? Firstly, I always had a "guardian angel on my shoulder in that I always was blessed with the best infantry professionals in the Army. You know the command structure and my orders came from BDE. Quickly stated, if there was time to do so....I would question my own orders as to where they might be weak and who should be delegated to do what. Some Soldiers have better skills and coping abilities in certain areas and elements than others. Myself included. If it were an operaton of some type I would receive my orders from BDE along with other BN commanders and we would discuss and be briefed and ask pertinent questions. Then I would, if time, if the situation permitted, issue the orders to my company commanders and have the SGM and first shirts present if possible. I gave the orders, the Senior NCOs made them happen. If time permitted, I would seek the advice and input from my senior NCOs that are the ones that make the operation possible and largely determine how successful it will be in re: to what risks, what we knew and what we did not, latlong of the AO, armor support. At that level in theater I was blessed to never have a disciplinary problem. As you know, there is not the time or place for that sort of thing.
As a junior officer I only boarded two straight out no-loads out of the Army. They were very bad indeed, One was a very bad disciplinary problem and caused a lot of trouble with company morale. The other one, as I remember, was "somewhere between being a totally irresponsible man and a sociopath." He caused an LT to be needlessly injured in routine garrison duty due to extreme negligence or unlawful acts. The JAG and his Army attys. "just wanted him out of the Army."
I did conduct a few Article 15s and was on an board of inquiry in a AR 15-20 investigation of a reserve commissioned officer on active duty where said officer was investigated as a result of being charged with Misusing his military position and authority to afford himself secondary gain. Sadly I was once on a board member of a 15-32 because an E-7 was found to be wilfully abusing an IMPAC Card and "was buying girlfirends with it."
I was always blessed with great cadres, great fellow officers, great commanding officers, the best SGM and first shirts in the United States Army. If a cadet during his/her 4 years at USMA listens to the Corps of Professors and to the Senior NCOs that were our field instructors ----a cadet at West Point learns that having great NCOs make or break a company, a BN, or a BDE. I am really not a very intelligent person and I believe that the Army goes on with or without individuals. True, at the time I retired I was the BN commander, but the first shirt "ran the show."
V/r,
Rat
Dgal,
Thank you for your kind words.
Rat
Religion is the worst thing that has ever happened to this world...Religion didnt die on the cross for you...
You have rare insight...thank you.
First and formost, organised chaos, aka, church afflilations, spread confusion and anti diversity. By separating one faith into multiple factions you bring about dissension in the ranks and conspiracy theories. Next comes a race for the so called eternal truth. Then power is sought to control others personal beliefs and their way of life. I grew up in the United States in a Catholic / Protestant home and attended Catholic school and protestant sunday school. My relatives were also of another christian affiliation, and so on and so on. With all this divide it is hard to come to some common ground on what Christ's true teaching are supposed to be.Christianity in general is in inner turmoil and complete conflict within its self. I speak out as a person who ONLY knows of what Christianity is, I lived it. I cannot within good conscience put down othernon christian religion faiths, how could I ,without any knowledge of living within it. It is easy to see why there are so many wide spread atheists in this world. I am not one, I personally believe in a higher power and within it a higher self with respect to nature that surrounds us. To get positive results in this life time it would be wise to attempt to contribute to others as much as you would to yourself. Just saying
Hmmmmm why could he not just impose a few Our Fathers and some Hail Marys on the Pope? Now say a good Act of Contrition Your Holiness.
Congratulations Satan worshipers, you've thrown out the baby with the bath water. Some priest abuse, and that's wrong. About 4%, but schoolteachers abuse at 5% and the general public at 10%.
Now 4% is too much and it should be 0%, but to destroy an innocent man's name, reputation and life because of what others have done, is wrong and the Satan worshipers have to accept some responsibility.
You Satan worsphers for the last 30 years have ASSUMED that all priestS are molesters. You have feed the fire of the rush to judgement.
So... Let me see if I understand your psychotic rant: Anyone who isn't "Christian" is a "Satan Worshipper". Does that about sum it up, you screeching bigot?
Let's make some things clear:
He must be innocent because the church would never call out a true pedophile. They protect their own.
I agree with the 1st comment, organized religion is a sick perverted system with more scandels than the white house, and i'm a christian.
I hope he sues the cossacks off 'em and wins. That organization needs to be broken financially (it was broken spiritually centuries ago).
homesick yank, you were broken spiritually before conception. The Church isn't broken spiritually and the money should come from a degenerate like you.
People like you who hate God will be hated by God. (John 9:31)