I bet the kid doesn't mess with this woman's son anymore. He knows there is somebody out there that will whoop his @ss if he does. She clearly isn't afraid to go to jail to defend her child. Props to mom.

Going to the cops would have most probably just resulted in even more bullying in retaliation.

Ok, arguesforsport, so you apparently just believe whatever someone is quoted as saying in a paper? Has it occurred to you that Mickens might have been lying? I mean, there's no guarantee he isn't tellin the truth, but bullies have been known to lie, I gather. ;)

At any rate, the real story here, is that this kid is going to be the subject of bullying now, unlike anything he EVER experienced before. He had to get his mommy to help him. I suspect that his mom, and her actions, have basically painted an enormous target on him. I suspect most folks who have dealt with bullies personally would agree.

Difficult situation. Either kid could have been lying, although instinct tells me to believe the bullied over the bullier. Still, smacking the kid around yourself, however satisfying, isn't the best answer. She should have started with the kid's parents and the school principal, then perhaps gone to the police if they didn't straighten it out.

Answering violence with more violence is unlikely to lead to long-term solutions.

The mistake Phillips made was not addressing the responsible adults in the situation. She should have confronted Micken's parents and perhaps the school if they bare any responsibility.

Sounds less like news reporting and more like Jerry Springer

None of that ain't true.

Sigh. The future of America, folks. Bleak, indeed.

Hmmm, if both kids had been 18 and the bullying occurred on a public bus, I wonder what would have happened? Would the bus driver kick of the bully who was starting it? Would the victim have been able to call the police and have the bully removed and/or arrested for assault? Why do we not give children the same basic protections we give adults? Oh, kids are immature and can't be held responsible. Ok, so if someone who is mentally disabled, 250 lbs of muscle, jumps on a bus, grabs you and starts wailing on you...you will not expect anyone to intervene and will not call the cops because the guy can't be held accountable for his actions...right? But just think what might have happened has this mother not intervened, the bullying continued and then eventually the victim gets a hold of a gun.....

What I have an issue with is that the kid who "beat up her son" was not the kid she attacked. She found it necessary to do what she did (which based upon her use of the English language is directly tied to her brain function) but didn't bother to find the person actually responsible. This isn't to say this kid wasn't also bullying her son but he's not the kid who got physically violent with the boy (at least according to the story). I think there are better ways of handling this type of situation. If you can't get a remedy through the school or through the police then you can go to more "alternative" measures. Now the kids going to get it even worse.

I don't recall anything in the article saying Ms Phillips had made contact with Mickens before he shoved her, only that they had started arguing. She pulled his hair after he shoved her to the ground, and she followed him onto the bus...when he layed hands on her, all bets are off.

I can tell you from experience, having someone else fight your battles is NOT the way to handle it. I had four kids picking on me in sixth grade, my brother took them all on. After that, it was all verbal, and it was worse, at least if one of them messed with me I could fight back, but being the target of verbal retaliation can be worse. "You have to have your big brother fight your battles??" Of course, if it was only one on one, either way, I could have taken care of it myself, even two on one.

This is great to see and a big A+ for the mom. And if the bullys Dad wants a piece I think she would give him an A whuppin too, you go girl........

And where are the parent(s) of the bully? Bet they can't handle their son, either.

I applaud the mom's desire to stand up for her kid, I'm just surprised she didn't get whacked around by the man-child bully. C'mon, many 17-year-old boys today have a full beard and are as big as a adult male. Sounds as if he needs to be out of the classroom and doing a stint in the military or digging ditches, before he really hurts someone and lands himself in prison.

You're an adult. You *don't* hit someone else's kid.

You take problems to the parents, and/or the school, and/or the police.

No doubt there's a lot of "Atta Girl!" attitudes here given the highlight that bullying has in our schools...but ask yourself: who's in trouble now?

This woman now has a long road of legal troubles in front of her. If the parents of the kid she "smooshed" file a civil complaint (as they probably will), she'll be on the hook for a load of money she may not have. How exactly is this in her child's best interests?

And I love her quotes about not having any regrets, and doing it again if she had the chance. They may be "feel-good" statements, but defense attorneys probably cringed while reading that. It isn't going to help her case when she's brought in front of a judge.

Bottom line: if you're an adult, you act like one.

"which based upon her use of the English language is directly tied to her brain function"

eh, that logic is spotty, not everyone was born with English as a first language or even the second. That statement just made your whole argument moot.

Personally, I would have confronted the parents of the bully in front of the bully, but that's just me.

Yashmak

Ok, arguesforsport, so you apparently just believe whatever someone is quoted as saying in a paper? Has it occurred to you that Mickens might have been lying? I mean, there's no guarantee he isn't tellin the truth, but bullies have been known to lie, I gather. ;)

OK, Yashmak, so you apparently didn't read the part of the story that says Mickens was a friend of the person who attacked her son, and she thought he was behind the attack. So, which is more credible, Mickens statement or her thoughts about an attack she didn't see?

Military Man-1740371

I don't recall anything in the article saying Ms Phillips had made contact with Mickens before he shoved her, only that they had started arguing. She pulled his hair after he shoved her to the ground, and she followed him onto the bus...when he layed hands on her, all bets are off.

Per the article above:

Before the students even got on the bus, Phillips and Mickens began to argue, and Phillips pushed the teen, witnesses told deputies.

Mickens slammed Phillips to the ground as the bus arrived, deputies said. Phillips then allegedly followed him onto the bus, grabbing his hair as the bus driver yelled that she needed to get off the bus and other students tried to stop the brawl.

She made the first move in pushing the teen and once she made physical contact with him (the pushing) she was charged. Especially when grabbing his hair later on the bus reinforced that charge.

She still acted irresponsibly because instead of notifying the proper people first, she acted on her own emotions. Plus she choose to attack the friend of the bully. This guy was not responsible for touching her son and she choose to pull the "guilt by association" decision. Which means that if any of you were friends with someone who bullied people, whether you cared about it or not, you get to be dealt punishment as well just because you are friends with the person doing the bullying. We don't know this guy instigated anything between the bully and the son as the article neither states or assumes that situation. So before standing up for the mom, reread what the article says:

The trouble began on Tuesday, according to Phillips, when her 15-year-old son, Terez Smith, got beat up at Flagler Palm Coast School by a friend of the teen she confronted on the bus, 17-year-old Justin Mickens.

Ok, arguesforsport, so you apparently just believe whatever someone is quoted as saying in a paper? Has it occurred to you that Mickens might have been lying?

That's exactly the point I was making. The people that posted before me, were taking Mom's word as gospel without a second thought.

I was bullied by this guy back in 1968 (Carson High, CA) By this big kid almost every day, this kid 40 lbs. and 6" over me. One day on a bus headed home, he was sitting in the back, I was in the middle,when we got to our stop, He pushed me From behind and over a row of seats, his buddies Chick friends all laughed at me, I told him "lets wait until we we get of bus". After a few swings at each other I managed to get him in left arm LOCK around is neck from behind I am right handed I started pounding his face in..All the girls were trying to get me stop, but I was in LOCK mode after about twenty hits to his face, Girls crying and screaming I let him go. His face was all F'd up, blood everwhere, ALL his, He didn't come back to school for two weeks. and I never was bothered by him or anyone ever again...

I hope see's this HAHA

BS...she should have kicked his ass like he did her son....bullys need a dose of thier own crap to make them realize poeple are not going to put up with it. Good for her....bullys alwats pick on others too small to defend themselves and 'sorting out the probelm' is also BS because the bully IS THE PROBLEM !!!

EXACTLY! Where was the damn bus driver you know THE ADULT doing when this happened time after time after time?? The little punk got what he deserved. He met his match and LOST!

I think what she did was awesome oh yea the brat needed it as he certainly is not getting it at home . many parents are at fault as they dont teach their children manners and respect when they are young . Kids today are way to violent towards each other and others . parents dont want to take responsibility they dont want to be a parent it is hard work . well if it is so hard dont have kids I say .

there is a old saying it takes a village to bring up a child ........ and shame on you people for insulting her English like you are all that get over yourselves and stick to the story . maybe if other parents work hard as she does on her son maybe the bullys would be stopped and children would not be commiting suicide. go ahead say it I already know I am the worlds worst speller and I have 2 college degrees :-)

I think she is awesome good for you !!!!!

Difficult situation. Either kid could have been lying, although instinct tells me to believe the bullied over the bullier. Still, smacking the kid around yourself, however satisfying, isn't the best answer. She should have started with the kid's parents and the school principal, then perhaps gone to the police if they didn't straighten it out.

Answering violence with more violence is unlikely to lead to long-term solutions.

Oh really you mean like the other adults in bullying cases where the victim ends up hanging from their fan or closet because of the constant bullying not being handled by the school principal or bully's parents?!? Oh yeah school principal and the bully's parents really do a good job there. -_-

OK, Yashmak, so you apparently didn't read the part of the story that says Mickens was a friend of the person who attacked her son, and she thought he was behind the attack. So, which is more credible, Mickens statement or her thoughts about an attack she didn't see?

So denver bill2, who was the source of that information? Mickens himself? No source is provided for the claim that he was a friend of the bully, rather than the bully himself. As usual with stories of this sort, there are lots of people here passing judgement on one party or the other, based on little other than hearsay.

That's exactly the point I was making. The people that posted before me, were taking Mom's word as gospel without a second thought.

arguesforsport, Mickens was the kid the mom 'smooshed', not the mom. I think you misinterpreted my comment.

Mom was just showing her boy what big pusses bullies are.

She should not have pushed the boy, but he should not have disrespected Her. Her son probably has manners and would not argue with Adults let alone slam them to the ground. It's the bullies parents who are to blame. If he even has any at home, probably being brought up by his grandmother.

Tough one here. I can respect the mom sticking up for her kid and not letting some bs school official trying to talk about the problem. But if that was my son that she was pushing around I would send my wife over to have a little toe to toe action with the mom. Whatever happened to the days when a kid bullied kids and one of the, got up enough courage to solve the problem themselves? We need to teach our kids to defend and stick up for themselves and not have teachers and parents doing it all the time.

Um, if "None of that ain't true", wouldn't that mean that Mickens is confirming the accusation as valid? He may have meant to say "none of that IS true", but who gets to make the call between the actual and intended statement? I say with stick with what was actually said, he can backtrack and issue a redaction/restatement to correct his ignorance if necessary. How do we know that this wasn't secretly an admission of guilt, said in a way to intentionallly cause confusion?

Besides, maybe if he spent as much time paying attention in class as he does allegedly bullying other kids, he might be able to construct proper sentences that don't contain double negatives and therefore convey the exact opposite meaning than he intended.

Yashmak

OK, Yashmak, so you apparently didn't read the part of the story that says Mickens was a friend of the person who attacked her son, and she thought he was behind the attack. So, which is more credible, Mickens statement or her thoughts about an attack she didn't see?

So denver bill2, who was the source of that information? Mickens himself? No source is provided for the claim that he was a friend of the bully, rather than the bully himself.

Since your reading comprehension skills apparently won't let you get through an entire article unscathed, here is the sentence you need (the emphasis is mine):

The trouble began on Tuesday, according to Phillips, when her 15-year-old son, Terez Smith, got beat up at Flagler Palm Coast School by a friend of the teen she confronted on the bus, 17-year-old Justin Mickens.

Willards,

He was not the same kid that hit her son, and who says it ever happened on the bus? Continue to assume by all means...

Many of you are not reading or understanding the article. You guys see that a teenager was beaten up by a bully but don't comprehend that the teenager who was approached by the mom was the FRIEND OF THE BULLY. The mom attacked the wrong person under assumption of guilt by association. Nowhere in the article does it state that this teenager was responsible for the attack on the son or was instigating the bullying.

Next - escalation .... The Bully's Mom gets PO-ed ... a grown, adult woman assaults "her" son. So the MOM wants her shot at getting even. Then the Husbands get into it, the relatives.

Next thing you you know - we have "The Hatfields and McCoys" all over again.

This has to stop!

I've been withness to "Dads gone wild" at football games, Basket ball games ... some have resulted in shootings - including fatal.

Great lesson you Parents are teaching your kids.

The real problem here is The administrators at the schools don't or won't step in, until there is a "Clear and Present Danger"!

This could have been stopped when they received the first report - even it were nothing but reckless eyeballing. or a stolen pencil, tripping someone in the hall.

By the time it gets to punching, fights, assaults - the die has been set and its all about the GET EVEN mentality.

I understand the Mom, I really do, but this crap is way out of line once it hgets to the point of Mom getting on the bus.

Could the Mom go to the COPS? Noooooo?.. they "protect and serve"...Sure. The cops could have stopped the problem BEFORE Mom had to take matters into her own hands; cops "protect and serve" don't they? Yes, Serve the EvilRich and Protect their wealth. Good Going Mom...You were righ.t Now some disgusting politico judge is getting into the act.

Wow, the reading comprehension for most people posting on this article is scary. It clearly states the she pushed this boy and then the boy through her to the ground and she followed him onto the bus and pulled him from behind. This boy wasn't even the one who beat up her kid. He was a friend of the person who beat him up.

She deserves to be prosecuted and found guilty. She's a putz who flew off the handle.

OK. Let's go back and read the article. The bully (who got nailed) claimed he didn't do anything, correct. What he did was have one of his buddies "nail" the victim, Mom had this "sorted" and got the bully. She knew who the perp. was and got him! Was she right to do so? No, by law no! Would I have done the same thing? Absolutely!Appantly, according to the article, the little @!$%# "called her out" and she reacted. We are not talking about a 9 or 10 year old, almost an adult.

Unforunately she will pay the consequences. The aggravating part is these smug, pants-around-the-ankles-underwear exposing-little-@!$%#s will walk away and swagger around school.

I hope upon hope they are dealt with somehow, by the authorities (that's a joke) or the community!

Where are these kids' fathers in all of this??

Phantom Beast

Good Going Mom...You were righ.t Now some disgusting politico judge is getting into the act.

And I hope the jury finds her guilty of the child abuse charge as she chose to go after the wrong teenager who was not responsible for hitting her son. Not to mention she could have been more adult about this and handled this better than what had happened.

US Houtkop

OK. Let's go back and read the article. The bully (who got nailed) claimed he didn't do anything, correct. What he did was have one of his buddies "nail" the victim, Mom had this "sorted" and got the bully. She knew who the perp. was and got him

Uh...per the article:

The trouble began on Tuesday, according to Phillips, when her 15-year-old son, Terez Smith, got beat up at Flagler Palm Coast School by a friend of the teen she confronted on the bus, 17-year-old Justin Mickens.

So...where in the article does it say that there was confirmation that the teenager she went after was the bully when it CLEARLY states that this guy was a FRIEND OF THE BULLY? Nowhere in the article does it state that this guy had any involvement. No assumptions were stated nor confirmations. Reread the article.

MattyG, so good to hear from someone with similar pet peeves - double negative, indeed. Huzzah!

The problem most fail to see, is there is only one thing bullies understand. Brute force.

I was bullied in high school, by several guys, all bigger than me. Countless times I 'did the right thing' and told teachers, counselors, even the principal. My parents met with school officials, many times. None of it did any good. Not once. One day, during gym class playing soft ball, an incident occurred, and the fool picked the worse possible time. I was next at bat! So I turned to him, and aimed for his rib cage, and swung for the fences. I intended to break as many bones as possible, as I had had enough. He got his arm in the way, didn't break it, but he was hurt for a while. A short time later, off school property, I caught another one of them alone, without his "back up". By the time he saw me coming, it was too late. I proceeded to flat out wail on him, never showing any mercy, because they never showed me any. I left him bloodied and badly hurt.

By the next Monday, as I walked around school, I noticed many people looking at me funny, as the news must have traveled like lightning, but I had more or less forgotten all about it. Some friends asked if the story was true. Yeah, not proud of it, but had taken enough sh*t, and decided to put an end to it.

And not a one of them ever messed with me again. Stand up, fight back, no mercy.

It's the only thing that works. Period.

S of A,

Thanks for the clarification. I reread the incident, if he had made the first move the situation would have been a different story. You are correct, she handled this very poorly.

Unfortunately, suggesting that she take it to the school or to law enforcement results in pretty much the same in most places. The school doesn't have the manpower to handle it. And the police want some sort of proof there is an issue they need to be involved in. More often than not nothing happens.

This is largely why there have been deaths in relation to situations like this. Young kids feel driven into a corner because NO one has their back. Now Mom gets arrested for stepping in...(of course, making physical contact with a minor is not the anwer, unless that minor makes the first move)

"I don't even talk to her son. I don't even hang around him ... None of that ain't true."

Isn't that great use of the English language? That's two negatives...so what he said technically means it IS true: 'none of that is not true'. And people wonder why today's kids can't find jobs. Who wants to hire someone with a vocabulary like that? I know, it's all those greedy rich people's fault.

I was a single parent, raising 2 boys. A neighborhood bully came onto my property and into my garage and lambasted my son in the mouth, just 2 weeks after he got braces. My own boy went through the ceiling in pain, all that metal jammed into his gums. I couldn't catch my son, but I did lay one across the face of the perp and in the process told him to get off my property. It took almost 1/2 hr to catch and soothe my boy. He came back over with his mother to complain about my slapping her hoodlum kid and when I showed her what he had walked onto my property and did to my son, she had no recourse. I then taught both my boys how to fight back for themselves. I always told them not to take anything from anybody. Same son a couple years later kept talking about this bully who would walk up behind him and pop him in the ears. He had told him not to do that, however, on the last day of school, at graduation practice, the bully did it again. This time my son slugged him right off the bleachers. Both were suspended the last hour of the school day. That bully never popped him in the ears again. I have never been afraid to tell my kids to stand up for themselves, don't take no crap from anybody.

Taint we humans special?

"smooshed"; Batman must have missed that one...biff, pow, sock, blam...

I had a mom like this - except she saw me getting hit one day and took me right to the principals office and demanded that they do something about it. My life only got worse - I was know as the "momma's boy" from that day forward. Bullies know that the school administration, the police, and momma aren't always going to be there to protect you.

On the other hand, if I ever have a kid, I am going to make sure they are strong, stay in good shape, and I am going to teach them how to fight like a mo-fo. I will teach them to always treat others with respect, warn them that they had better never pick on someone weaker than them, but if someone ever tries to pick on them, DO NOT BACK DOWN.

I do not condone violence, but I also do not condone picking on the weak. Break their arm first, then turn the other cheak and dare them to do it again.

i dont know what lines u all missed saying she jumped on the first kid on the bus,but i saw where it says the boy she whooped was bulling her son before getting on the bus. that lying little fuc- will do the same thing all through school stick him in jail now. good mom protect ur kid. my kids when there old enough will take self defense classes that way they can defend themselfs from pedifiles which the cops and judges just slap on the hand and from bullies at school which teachers and principles dont want to deal with

Apparently you need to be a rocket scientist in this day and age to understand that you don't get between a momma bear and her cub. Comon sense isn't so common, it appears because some kid is stupid enough to try and assault a boy in front of the boy's mother? It's a natural instinct for this woman - for any woman - to protect her child from harm. The kid's lucky he wasn't taken to the mat.

I took my bullies to court recently for intentional infliction of emotional distress, invasion of privacy, and the institution that failed to supervise them for the negligent infliction of emotional distress. More people need to start using the court system. By definition, bullies do not let up, so there is an intention infliction claim that is recognized in all 50 states and many other countries.

The law and the cops and judges no matter how many cannot handle every aspect of our lives.

Sooner or later comes a moment when you have to make a dissission in the best interest of your child.

We had a woods next to where we use to live.

Bullies where conned into going up in there.

Sometime the bullied was the actual bait.

When we all got deep enough in there, there where no cameras.... no one could hear a thing.... and 5 or 6 guys would give this bully a blanket party that left him one hurting puppy.

Beat the living crap out of him......

Didn't take long before we didn't have any bullies anymore..... nuff said

First off - you don't hit someone else's kid. Period. I don't care how badly they are behaving.

Secondly - The kid she hit wasn't even the one who attacked her son!

Thirdly - No wonder her son is being bullied if his mommy has to walk him to the bus stop when he's 17 years old! Do you think this is going to up his "cool" factor any? not likely.

Everytime this sort of story comes out people start regressing and shouting "way to go" to the out of control parent like they're a folk hero. Grow up people, you're not in high school anymore.

"And where are the parent(s) of the bully? Bet they can't handle their son, either."

Unfortunately, it is pointless to go to the parents as the bullies usually (USUALLY, not ALWAYS) learn this at home. Then they go to school & take out their frustations on other students.

Sad, I know.

Yeah, we should just talk to the bullies, in the 'strongest of terms.' We all know how well 'reasoning' works for people in Islamist controlled communities, must be doable in Florida too.

'I have no reason to cut you with my sword, Just leave my daughter alone, all she wants is an education and freedom to marry whomever she may desire; you feel me Mo?'

Woe be unto the bastards who piss off my mom!

We got your back Felicia, just leave no witnesses next time.

"I took my bullies to court"

I'm curious, Brenda. Did U win? And how much?

Here is how this should have been handled. Mom beats crap out of bully. Bully tells his parents that he was pummelled by that mom. Parents should have asked him why she did that and then beat their kid for making that mom beat him and embarrassing them.

Problem solved.

This is how it's been done up until the '80s and in some areas, the '90s. Just because it's someone else's kid, you should be allowed to issue punishment if they hurt you, your property, or your kids. We don't need the police to get involved. Stop with this warm and fuzzy you're all special crap. We've created a generation of educational retards and those who follow no society rules. Way to go making the world a softer, kinder and "better place" to allow the worst of society to rule over you.

I remember my brother came home from school beaten almost every day. My parents talked to the administration, but they said he wasn't being bullied...even though the evidence was clear. Disgusting. They had to pull him out of school, it got so bad. The school did NOTHING but call him a liar.

The mom was right. They need a good ol' fashion whooping, but no one is allowed to do that anymore. A spank is NOT child abuse, it's discipline!

I hate how PC our country is getting.

The "kid" she hit was 17, so don't make it sound like she was beating up small children. I don't believe that he never bullied her son. Why would her son be happy his mom stuck up for him, if she didn't accuse the right person of bullying?

John Collins-5713739

i dont know what lines u all missed saying she jumped on the first kid on the bus,but i saw where it says the boy she whooped was bulling her son before getting on the bus.

To answer your first line question about jumping the kid, she never jumped him. She pushed him and it was before getting on the bus:

Worried about her son's safety, Phillips decided to accompany Smith on Wednesday to the bus stop. Before the students even got on the bus, Phillips and Mickens began to argue, and Phillips pushed the teen, witnesses told deputies.

And as for the second part of your statment "i saw where it says the boy she whooped was bulling her son before getting on the bus", where is that in the article? Because the article states no bullying had occured prior to the bus getting there that day, only the incident stating that the trouble started the day before:

The trouble began on Tuesday, according to Phillips, when her 15-year-old son, Terez Smith, got beat up at Flagler Palm Coast School by a friend of the teen she confronted on the bus, 17-year-old Justin Mickens.

Where in this article does it state that the teenager the mother went after was the bully? What lines were you reading or missed that had you come to your conclusion?

Xina, you sound like the parent of a bully. I would beat the h.ll out of your child if I had to because you couldn't control your him/her. That is usually the case with bullies. Either the parents think it's just kids being kids or they are also bullies.

U don't say, I did quite well. Pled no contest, basically. Too many witnesses. Bullying is already against the law is what most people do not realize. And if you go after someone because they have a trait that makes them different, such as a developmental disability, it makes your culpability that much worse.

Does anyone else here see the irony of a parent who is mad about someone beating up her son handling the situation by getting on the bus and BEATING SOMEONE UP? Great example.

It's not unlike when I see parents of young children, when the child hits someone, the parent smacks their hand and says, "We do NOT HIT." Try working that one out in your brain as a young child.

But back to the mom situation, just when did we become such a society of violent savages?

"Ricks Real" is exactly right what did the little azzole expect? A hug and a kiss? And all those of you who are condeming this woman and calling for some maximum penalty under the law...what exactly do you think you'd have done in the same situation,had some little wanna be thug started some crap with your kid and you right there? I can tell you what would have happened if it had been me and i'm not one bit ashamed to admit it. And child abuse? Really,that definition is so widely corrupted anymore it's just flat out ludicrus!

What this country needs is about a million more mothers like her,who aren't afraid to meade out the retribution these little miscreant future gangbangers deserve! But oh no....in so many eyes on here, she's the criminal,she's the one who deserves punishment. If this country hadn't turned into a litigeous bunch of puzzies who are afraid to even look at their own kids sideways when they have done something worthy of a belt strap,this mother and many,many like her wouldn't have to resort to this sort of thing in the first damn place!

I think its time for kids to start standing up for themselves again. I am a young man, 32, and we had plenty of bullies when i was younger. Most of the time the bully would eventually pick on the wrong kid and get the @!$%# kicked out of him. Guess what........no longer a bully. Enough with the parents and councelors getting invloved. Tell your kid to stand up for themselves. Next time a bully is picking on your kid tell them to do what I was told: turn around and hit the bastard as hard as you can right in the nose. I did that when I was younger and never had a problem from the so called tough kids anymore. I will be teaching my daughter how to box when she is about 5, have a good boxing gym by the house and used to do a little myself.

You guys got it all wrong...I am A dad and I have had a few problems like this with my son being bullied. The way I handled it: I went to the kids house and tried to talk to his father as dad to dad...He just laughed and told me my kid should "toughen up" so I told him I agreed the tough survive and then knocked him out in front of his own kid who was standing at the door watching us (we were on the front lawn) then I told that little s.o.b (while I was slapping his unconscious dads face) that "See, you ever touch my kid again I'll come back and whoop your daddy some more!" Problem solved. My son said the kid was terrified to come near him even in the school halls. And as far as his father calling police or anything, They did come and question me and I told them I never touched the guy and did they have any proof? They told me that it would just be best if I didn't go near that family, I agreed. Never heard another word or anything about it....

Hunt,
Spot on. Kids are a bunch of whiney entitled little wimps these days.

Sarah,

What should they do? Tell the teacher or the police? What does that teach your kid......how to run and get someone else to solve your problems? What happens when this kid is in his 20's and mommy isnt around to solve his problems?

"Pled no contest"

So it was criminal charges and not a civil case?

Unfortunately, in JuV criminal cases the records will B sealed upon the perps turning 18.

Sorry. double post.

Term12:

That's awesome! Can't believe the dad would be stupid enough to say something like that!

Term12 gets a +1 from me. We too had bullies on the playground and there was always someone that had to ultimately stand up and dish out justice. I remember there was a kid that was taller and bigger than everyone else that thought they were the king of playground. I remember after he tortured me he turned his back. I kicked him so hard in the sack he dropped to his knees screaming and then punched him the back of the head in front of everyone. Needless to say, his days of being the schoolyard bully ended.

If this stuff is taken care of when these kids are younger, there is less chance of severe injury. Remember, physical wounds heal quickly. Especially when compared to mental wounds.

Term12,

All kids need a dad like U. Then maybe this sh!t would stop.

He I guess thought because he was a little bigger then me that he was being a "tough guy" to show off for his kid...Seems that maybe the kid learned bullying from his dad. I will say that I told my son that the only reason this happened was because the guy acted like he was trying to bully me, And that is the only way to handle a bully, But to never start a fight. In truth, I think the guy was about to push me anyway, He just didn't get the chance. Some might say I was wrong or could have went to jail and I will say this to those people: I WOULD ROT IN THE PIT OF HELL IF IT MEANT SAVING MY KID FROM PAIN! to all the rest that understand, Give your kid a hug tonight and tell them you will always have their back :)

Phil McKrackin,

Right on. Remember something similar when I was about 14. Started with one kid trying to push me around, then 3 of his pals came over to try and do the same. Luckily I had an older brother that was tough as nails that I wrestled with everyday. Needless to say I stuck the big tough guy of the bunch square in the nose and watched him bleed and cry like a little punk. I was never messed with again. Another good story is when I was in about 5th grade and everyday some jagoff high school kid would walk up to me and tell me to shake his hand or he would beat the piss out of me. After about two days of this I told my older brother what was happening, he was 2 years younger than mr. big shot high school kid. Big bro told him if you touch my brother again you got problem. "Touch, touch" was the douche bags response. Again it was another kid on the receiving end of an ass kicking. NEver bothered again. Pretty simple solutions.

U don't say, it was both criminal and civil. Intentional and negligent infliction and invasion of privacy claims are civil. Assault (and battery) is criminal.

yes this kid could have been the friend of the bully, but why did he argue with the woman? He should have said he didn't have anything to do with this but he could tell her who did. He most likely was flip, and have no home training and that is why he got it. I'm not saying it's right, but you get sick of teens being flip. If she had gone to school they would have said we can't handle this, and why didn't the bus driver stop it. Cops most likely would do anything.

The kid is ignorant and a bully....the two go hand in hand. Not sure that was the best way to handle that situation as far as her son goes.....but hey I'm always glad to hear about a bully having a can of whoop a$$ opened up on him.....no matter who's doing the whoopin'......Bullies are the warts on the butt of society....right up there with republicans!

I nominate Term12 for Poster of the Day!

Sarah, experts generally agree now that bullied children have to fight back. They bullying won't stop if they run. So teaching your child to fight isn't a bad idea. Sometimes they are bullied because they will not fight back. Sometimes they win the fights. Losing could make things worse, but not necessarily. What bullied people also need is friends who are willing to speak up and not just be willing to give eulogies at their funerals. Often no bullying would ever take place if the bullies saw that the person was not alone.

As the Chicago teacher's strike showed, you can't depend on the school administration to protect your kids, and if the police department is heavily public employee union represented, and your municipality is in debt, the police will get there sometime. Sometime soon? No just sometime.

All of those who are saying the mom did the right thing need serious help. This is an adult attacking a child!!! This is never an acceptable way to handle something like this. The mom should have gone to the school and/or the other kids parents, and if they did not take action she should have gone to the police. You should never take things like this into your own hands, that is unless you want to go to prison. This mom should not be charged with child abuse, she should be charged with felony assault and, based on her statements that she would do it again, should be arrested and held without bail pending trial as she clearly represents an ongoing danger. Not only is what she did the absolute wrong way to handle things, it is also going to make the situation for her kid even worse. Can you imagine the abuse he is going to take at school now over his mommy fighting his battles for him. All she did is virtually guarantee that the bullying is going to get worse, not better. It is now going to be that much harder for the school to put a stop to the bullying.

Brenda take your litigious attitude and shove it. Your legal babbling and leave it to the police and school concept is why the world at large sucks anymore. These two are not parents nor are they able to handle the situation of bullies. Using these methods don't teach lessons and doesn't help society as a whole. Sometimes, problems must be handled the old fashioned way(read: better way). Just because it isn't legal doesn't mean it isn't the appropriate action and sets the appropriate example.

When I was a child my mom whoooped the ass of a much bigger kid in my neighborhood that bullied me relentlessly... and you know what? That kid stayed clear of me from that point on. Thanks mom!! I love you for it! Props to this mom, nothing is more important as a parent than standing up to protect your child from harm.

Ok, so as an adult I'm not supporting violence and I know it's wrong. However, the bully loses my civility when he/she puts his hands on my child! That's a game-changer and I can tell you if anyone repeatedly bullies one of my boys and won't stop then I'm going to do what it takes to stop my child from being attacked. If that means an ass-whooping then so be it. I'd gladly sit in jail for awhile to protect my babies.

Besides, this mom didn't hurt the kid... just changed his bad attitude.

Bullies be warned, hurt the wrong child and you'll reap the consequences.

Phil, B nice B4 Tyler or Sarah show up & I get 2 sing the "peanut butter jelly" song 4 U.

:-P

she should set up a website for donations. all bullies need an old fashion ass whooping.

JS,

Can you imagine the abuse he is going to take at school now over his mommy fighting his battles for him. All she did is virtually guarantee that the bullying is going to get worse, not better. It is now going to be that much harder for the school to put a stop to the bullying.

I bet you anything this kid never gets bullied again! My mom beat the tar out of a nasty bully when I was a kid and he stayed a thousand yards away from that point on... the other kids thought it was awesome because the bully was out of business. I don't know where you got your values but allowing your kid to be abused is NOT my values buddy!

JS in SD,

I have seen you post several times and have proven that you are a typical wimp that needs others to fight your battles. Maybe it is you that needs serious help. You ever think of that?

Term12, when i read that you said the tough survive and you knocked him out, (I actually hollered out) and told that bully that if he touched his son again that you were going to come back and whip his daddy some more while slapping his unconcious face around. WOW! How incredible! And how incredibly stupid he was to say something like that! So funny when you told the police you didn't touch him and did they have any proof? WOW. this is so awesome again. Thank you Term12 for your awesomeness!

That "Bully" IS a bully all right and not only that, he's also a LIAR. His body language gave him away. Good for the mom. Now, she should teach her son how to fight or get someone to teach him how to fight. Mama won't always be around.

JS in SD:

Thank God you aren't a judge. Seriously, FELONY ASSAULT for this? The "child" is 17. IMO, that's not a child. In a lot of states, that's the legal age of consent.

Can you please give me reason for this being a case of felony assault?

It is NOT a virtual guarantee the bullying will get worse. She stuck up for her kid, and has already stated she WILL DO IT AGAIN.

Dalton: "All you have to do is follow three simple rules. One, never underestimate your opponent. Expect the unexpected. Two, take it outside. Never start anything inside the bar unless it's absolutely necessary. And three, be NICE."

Dont pay any attention to JS in SD. He/She has proven time and time again that they think they are smarter than everyone. Its usually alot of hot air.

Dalton: "Take the biggest guy in the world, shatter his knee and he'll drop like a stone."

U dont say,

And I thought you'd be bigger!

Best f'ing movie.

PH-3046605

None of that ain't true.

Sigh. The future of America, folks. Bleak, indeed.

I've heard MUCH worse from Mitt Romney.

U dont say,

Right boot.

The overlord,

Really? Come on man. No one has brought politics and you have to be the first? The same can be said about O.

Wade Garrett: "G**D***, that's hurts, doesn't it?"

Actually Irish, I'm surprised that it took this long. (rolling eyes)

Irish, mah brutha from another mutha or mah sista from another mista? ;-)

♪♫Nothing changes on New Years Day!♪♫

U dont say,

I am surprised myself. Thought that would be the first or second. And there hasnt been too many race posts either. What is happening here?

Brutha from another mutha.

Dalton: Pain dont hurt.

Phil, I live in Chicago. My relatives were about to start dragging them out. I have some professional fighters in my family and some crazy people, and I am small enough that I have to fight to kill. I'm not the type to commit suicide; my bullies would die first. A street fight is a better solution to the court house? Unfortunately, bullies are not easily stopped. And you are one. I hope whoever you are bullying sues you for every d.amn thing you've got or blows your f.n brains out.

This mother should have beat the little SOB who abused her son to within an inch of his life. If you are going to be charged with child abuse, get your f**king money's worth. The school system, the kid's parents, the teachers and the other students will not stop bullying. They are just too apathetic to care. This mother's actions seem to be the only recourse, and all you bleeding heart liberals who say you don't hit another parents kid are just spitting into the wind. When your child is threatened, you take the necessary action to stop the abuse. While she is probably out $2500, at least she got in some good licks. I just wish she had got in a lot more, and that she had brought a baseball bat to the fight. Our school system is totally f**ked up, and parents have to take matters into their own hands when the system is too damned cowardly to do anything to stop bullying.

Oooo Brenda, not good. Death threats? That will surely bring Tyler or Sarah out.

"And three, be NICE."

Brenda,

I live in Chicago as well, so what does that have to do with anything? Now you are saying you want someone to get shot? Classy.

"And there hasnt been too many race posts either."

Sllabymkcil isn't here.

(snicker)

all of these posters saying the bully was a child like he was 7 but he is 17, ALMOST A MAN hell next year he could be bullying in Iraq, BUT I DOUBT IT

My point is where I live Irish you would get shot. People shoot each other around here because of bullying. And you and that idiot, Phil, make light of using the court system. Unfortunately, threats are the only things that makes some people behave civilly. Using the court system is the best option. It is not used enough. I use to never believe in carrying arms. Now I believe we should all be armed.

Brenda,

I dont live in a great area either. Luckily most of the gangs moved west of the river a few years back but they are started to trickle back into the neighborhood. I wish we could all own a gun in the city but that is not allowed for law abiding citizens. As far as the court system......it sucks. People that should be locked up walk all the time and people that should walk get tossed in the can for a bs charge. And maybe you should move out of your neighborhood. Or if you dont want to then maybe the code of silence in those areas should be broken.

And why do we have gangs? Because these kids learn that the authorities won't do squat and the only way they can defend themselves is to take matters into their own hands.

The problem is that we are calling this "bullying" when in fact it is violent assault. Bullying is overused and covers everything from mere name calling to near-fatal beat-downs. Why is it not a crime when it happens on the school ground or a bus? Had the "bully" beat up someone on the street who wasn't a classmate, would there not be an investigation, an arrest, conviction, and time served in juvi? A crime is a crime is a crime - school officials and authorities need to take this seriously and treat them as the crimes they are, not some Afterschool Special.

Brenda, Brenda, Brenda, (shaking head) now U R calling people names? Ugh!

*note 2 self: stop trying 2 help Brenda, she's not listening.

Ugh!

"Now I believe we should all be armed."

Me & my .38 agree-with THAT statement.

I know what you're thinking....

What would George Zimmerman have done???

Irish, I have asked people about breaking the code of silence. The problem is this: moving is difficult, more difficult than it should be. Unfortunately, even when landlords are almost guaranteed their rent payment through programs such as Section 8, they still will often use credit ratings to decide to whom to rent. They won't rent to people with poor credit, even if the person doesn't have a bad rental history. So what I've been told is this: people are often trapped into bad neighborhoods. So since they can't move, they don't speak up.

And U don't say, I think that Phil totally missed the point of bullying. You can't talk bullies out of bullying and often their parents are bullies, too. Plus, I'm mad because I'm still feeling the affects of what I went through. And "gangs" are not always organized, and bullying is involved in most shootings.

Menoseeno,

I was actually think........If I had a son which one would he look like?

In the animal kingdom there is no greater danger than coming between a mother and her offspring.

Made me reminisce of my younger days. I remember my sister being bullied in high school. She was tough and put up with a lot of @!$%#. Then she snapped. She was charged with assault but enough witnesses were paraded out and it all went away. She was much revered after that.

And then I was bullied when I wen through high school. I wonder how he's doing with that limp. Knees make a terrible sound when they come apart.

When's the best time to plant a tree? Answer: 50 years ago. Teach your children right from wrong. Teach them to defend themselves. Fighting is the last resort. But when that time comes, bring the rain.

So a warning to the world. Touch my kids and you better hope I get to you before my wife does.

Instinct is a powerful thing.

Brenda,

I hear what you are saying as far as the rent situation goes. I know it isnt easy to get out of a neighborhood and into another one with less crime. Not to mention the cost of rent is insane in Chicago. But there are areas that you can move to that they dont run that hard of a check. Only problem with that is some of the areas have taken a turn for the worse. The Portage Park area used to be a decent area with low rent and easy credit checks but the gangs started to move into those areas. Just an example. As for the code of silence, its a shame people dont speak up. That is how my area was, you ignore the gangs because you dont want your name leaked and you know what happens then. The one thing that changed my neighborhood was enough people getting sick of the gangs and calling for extra patrols in the area. But the city has cut our police force so they are starting to trickle back in. Hope you can get out or at least get some of the gangs out.

Brenda, sometimes U have 2 agree 2 disagree.

I'll B the first 2 say that on these boards I'm no angel; I usually pick threads that I can make jokes on-but I refuse 2 lower myself 2 name calling (with the exception of skrewdworld. It's not name calling with her; She IS a hypocrite!), death threats or the race baiting.

"You can't talk bullies out of bullying and often their parents are bullies, too."

Yep, stated that myself.

"Plus, I'm mad because I'm still feeling the affects of what I went through."

Perhaps a therapist would B more beneficial than venting on a message board.

Good luck 2 U!

Here's an example of 1 of my jokes; I think U & Irish will "get it":

I'm asked: "Do U like 2 go camping?"

I answer: "The Drake? I love The Drake."

;-)

Ok, it's not a joke; I really feel that way about "camping".

U dont say,

Some good ones coming from you today. Keep it up.

Irish, I sent U a FR. Maybe our paths will cross again.

As if logic and common sense would have worked in that circumstance. You don't mess with mom, you just don't.

BRENDA -

Xina, you sound like the parent of a bully. I would beat the h.ll out of your child if I had to because you couldn't control your him/her. That is usually the case with bullies. Either the parents think it's just kids being kids or they are also bullies.

Brenda - my son is 4 years old. He also happens to have congenital hypotonia meaning that he has generalized muscle weakness. So let me make this real clear to you, you hit my kid.... Hell if you even THREATEN him with physical violence.... I will OWN your home, your car, your savings account... EVERYTHING you have will be mine you ignorant cuss. You sit there on your high horse when you're no better than the "Bullies" yourself. If any adult has a problem with my kid, they should be coming to me. Rest assured if he has done something wrong he will be punished. But if you think for one minute I'm going to allow you to meat my child because you THINK now that you're grown you'll get to make up for being picked on when YOU were a kid, you have another thing coming. You come into these forums and threaten to hit other people's disabled kids. WTF are you thinking? You know nothing about me or my child. STFU.

You can't imagine the rage inside of you until it happens to your child and the school, bus driver, principal, police won't do anything! I showed my hiney at my son's middle school numerous times, tore down their anti bullying posters and threw them at the principal. When my son was 12 (he endured this bullying for 3 years) he would go out to get on the bus, but hide and go back in the house when I went to work. He wouldn't eat, sleep and was always afraid. Absolutely no child out of the 16 that he named got any punishment whatsoever. I confronted some of the parents and they were commenting on how there's a pecking order then I threatened to peck on one of the dad's faces, I left before the cops came. Something has to be done. If I could have gotten away with it I would have done what this lady did with a smile on my face.

Calm down, Xina. How would she possibly know that your child is 4 & has a condition? Y R U taking this so personally? Way 2 B awesome. (sarcasm)

(I think they both need therapy.)

"And three, be NICE."

Hmmm... SMOOSHED !! A great new word to add to the Urban Dictionary, for describing a good old fashion @ss kicking.

Bullying is a learned behavior. One must look at the parenting skills of the parents of the teenage bully. More likely than not, they are to blame for their young one's bad behavior.

Nowadays, it seems like no one, (police, school administration, fellow students), gives a hoot about rowdy behavior at school or on the bus. I can completely understand the mother's reactions and actions. Good for her, for taking prompt action to "nip it in the bud," so to speak.

Of course, in addition to a good smoosh, she could have placed a well aimed kick to the kilyoonies. That might have created a more lasting impression... !!

Good for her! I would do the same for my kid against any student, or adult, OR TEACHER, who bullied them, and she has proven that she loves her child. The same goes for parents who use corporal punishment when their kid does something wrong: they are proving to their child (and the world) that making them into a good person matters to them and that they love them. Parents who DON'T use it are proving the opposite. GOOD FOR HER.

So Xina, you are saying that you would take me to court? Isn't that what you were complaining about my doing? You agreed with Phil about litigation? That woman should have taken her son's bully to court. My point was that we do not use the justice system enough. It isn't that is is being used too much. People take the law into their own hands. However, if your son bullied mine, I'd own everything you have. People who have disabilities do not get free rides; they are just simply not to be bullied. I get bullied because I have a PhD, four masters degrees, two technical certifications and two other certifications, am gay, black, female, and have a disability. Get the picture?

I am so proud of that mom I could bust. Too much government interferring with a parent raising their kids and some parents saying "I ain't gonna stop my kid" and what is left is for a strong woman to do? She loves her son, she knew he needed someone to stand up for him and she did what had to be done.

I wish I had money to pay her bond. I wish I could tell her how much I admire her and her spunk.

YOU GO, MRS. PHILLIPS! GOD BLESS YOU FOR STANDING UP FOR YOUR SON!!!

My daughter had a problem with a boy that hit her once , so I sent my son in to deal with him ., only my son hits a lot harder than he hit my daughter but he did deserve it . He never touched my daughter again and in fact walked a wide circle anywhere she was . After that I started teaching my kids karate which has come in handy a few times now , they are grown up now and my granddaughter will be learning karate once she is old enough , though not from me , her father is a black belt where I never went past green .

Brenda - where did I ever say anything about agreeing with phil? NEVER. I said you don't hit other people's kids. I said the kid she hit wasn't the one who hit her kid. And I said that she probably made the situation worse by fighting her kids battles at his age. I didn't even address my original comment to you. It had nothing to do with you going to court. I don't give a rat's behind if you go to court.

And yet you felt the need to bully me for having that opinion and threaten to beat my child. How are you different from the bullies you are so against?

Xina, my bullies used people who had developmental disabilities and were intimidated by them. So he may not have been the one who beat up her son, but he may have been behind it. Studies show that in a group of bullies there usually is a master manipulator, who often looks like a victim. That person is usually the most dangerous one.

If we're just going by what the video shows (Because the reporter says the "the video clearly shows", and the guy said she chased him and then pulled the back of his head) then we can see that the kid is lying. Regardless of her chasing him on the bus, the video shows him get on the bus and then when she gets on he turns and lunges at her before the video shows her make any contact. Perhaps people didnt catch that because it looks like the one with the long hair was the mother when in actual fact it was the kid and the mother is the one wearing the cap (her wig fell off when he swung her around and pushed her down.

Either way, good on her for giving this kid the beating that his parents should have. Hate to say it but some people just need a good slap to knock sense into them...time outs dont always work

There has to be a kid on the football team who could use some extra cash.

Why is it that all these black mothers have children with a different last name ??? Can anyone help them ?

"She chased me on the bus and pulled me by the back of my head," Mickens told WESH.com. "I don't even talk to her son. I don't even hang around him ... None of that ain't true."

lol too bad none of it ain't true...

'None of that ain't true'

Anyone else chuckle at this?

If I was that kid's mother who got hit on the bus, the first thing I would have done the FOLLOWING DAY was show up to the bus stop and attack that mother's son. I repeat, no one would touch my son like that.

That woman did the wrong thing.

'cause violence doesn't breed contempt and more violence, right?

Yeah so we should turn the other cheek and let our kid be eternally bullied in a noble attempt to stop more violence? Yeah, I'll be damned if I let my kid be the door stop.

Yeah so we should turn the other cheek and let our kid be eternally bullied in a noble attempt to stop more violence? Yeah, I'll be damned if I let my kid be the door stop.

Do you believe that the only way to stop violence is with more extreme violence?

You're the problem.

Tell that to the bully whose butt I whooped when I was in 8th grade "Some Guy". This kid picked on me constantly, the teachers or aides wouldn't do anything. I came home crying and my dad told me next time if I didn't whoop his butt I'd have something to cry about. So next time he started flicking my ears, I punched him in the face and down he went. I started kicking him until he cried and the principal had to pry me off him. I was suspended but I got no punishment at home and that kid went out of his way to avoid me. Same with the other bullies who were picking on me, they wouldn't go near me after what happened in the hallway. Mission accomplished. I'd say people like YOU ARE THE PROBLEM kids should defend themselves and that is one lesson I am glad I learned, not to become a victim. You "oh go to authority they'll handle it" people really make me sick. Its as if you encourage kids to not stand up for themselves and just become victims. That kind of lesson carries over into adult life where they become victims and won't stand up for what they believe or themselves. This stop bullying stuff is just a band-aid on a cut that is gushing blood when what they really need is a tourniquet and dressing. Kids should fight back, even if they get the snot kicked out of them. The bully will be less likely to come back for more when he knows the victim will fight back.

I'd say people like YOU ARE THE PROBLEM kids should defend themselves and that is one lesson I am glad I learned, not to become a victim. You "oh go to authority they'll handle it" people really make me sick.

I apologize, I should have articulated my self in a better manner. I was arguing against the position that he, as an adult, should deal out violence against children whom are acting violent.

Your position has it's merits. It can teach that someone with less perceived strength, power, or ability may not be an easy target. A lesson all people need to learn, I think.

However; his position shows that you can use violence to get what you want when you're an adult.

Teaching children to defend themselves against attacks or bullying is not the same as going and attacking the bully yourself.

Yall...Can't you see Some Guy is just looking for an argument. Not matter what you say, he'll disagree. Blow a raspberry at his opinion and go on.

Yall...Can't you see Some Guy is just looking for an argument.

Hey, I gotta practice somewhere.

Blow a raspberry at his opinion and go on.

I'm not familiar with this idiom, what does it mean?

HAHAHAHAHAHA. Just wanted to get you fired up!

Google "blowing a raspberry" you'll see what idiom I speak of.

HAHAHAHAHAHA. Just wanted to get you fired up!

Then you and I share the same pleasure. A lot of time I play devil's advocate to illicit responses; however, I don't really think of it as, "looking for an argument" as much as i think of it as, "breeding new ideas through the clashing of old ones".

At least, that's what I tell myself anyway.

Some Guy-5289621

Nice back peddling there. But there really is no way of stopping violence from bullies when they are set on violent ways.

PissedOff, good for you. Handling the situation yourself is the best way to prevent bullying. If that hadn't worked, then you'd need to get your parents involved. Standing up to someone who is violent against you is admirable.

However, a mother swatting and then following a kid to further punish him was stupid. This kid wasn't the bully. She was being emotional and crazy. Indeed, this is what he SON should've done to the bully. (I'm thinking, though, did the bully have a gun or a knife? That trumps fists....)

SomeGuy: I expect you have no real life experiences to discuss this issue, because you lack an understanding of those involved. You speak of philosophical ideals and mannerisms. I guess you wouldn't have my back against violent radicals. Would you step forward or would you prefer to discuss it first? Sometimes action is called for to protect the weak from the strong. Reason does not work with someone who won't listen. P.S. Can we draw a parallel to some other recent events?

The article said that the boy the woman hit was the friend of the guy who beat her son up. So the boy she assaulted was not even the boy who beat up her son. Woman has anger issues. She should have gone through the proper channels to get this resolved. She could even have brought up a suit against the boy's parents.

I know what you're thinking......

What would OBAMA have done?????

He would have given the bully a deferrred college degree, food stamps, free healthcare, and the DREAM Act!

You go Mom!!

assault is assault, done by an adult or kid, they're breaking the law. kids should call 911 when they see a fight, period. junior high and high school.

adminstrator's call in grade school. fifth and sixth grade? maybe 911, depending on severity. let the police have an expertise person handle these issues instead of administrators, teachers and parents.

laws are meant to protect. let's stop taking the law into our own hands. kids are rough at a young age.

My son was bullied to the point that he got a concussion and had to go to the hospital.

I taught him to use words to put the bullys in their place instead of lowering himself to their level. One snot decided that because my son had a good use of the English language that did not include cuss words he would show him who was "bigger". The principle and teachers did absolutely nothing to stop the shoving and pushing as my son was tagged back and forth until he fell on the marble floor and hit his head and started throwing up.

If I knew which adults to hit I would have started my own brawl. No one puts these brats in their place, no one has balls enough to call their bluff. And no one has the courage to press charges when the identity of one of these low lifes is found. The current situation in schools is absolutely disgusting. I wish more parents would home school, I wish more could afford to.

Back in the 1980's, my middle son was bullied when he was a kid. His dad and I told him to first try to talk it out--but that he had a RIGHT to defend himself. When the talking didn't work, our son defended himself. We were called in by the principal that day, told that he had gotten into a fight and our son, along with the bully, was suspended. We explained to the principle that he had complained about being bullied, and that our rule to him was to first try to talk it out, but that if that didn't work, he had the right to defend himself, and that we would NOT punish him at home. Well, the principle suspended him anyway, we took him home, gave him pizza for dinner, and told him that sometimes, ya have to pay the nuisance value (getting suspended) but he did right by sticking up for himself. The bully never bothered him again.

I overhead the greatest triple negative ever in a store once: "I ain't never heard nobody." It was a masterpiece. Every word fit into the sentence without sounding forced or repetitive. Too bad the speaker never graduated HS and had to work in that store stocking shelves.

He's going to get his ass kicked even more now because his mom came on the bus to fight his battle for him.

Dave-- I tend to agree with you-- she needs to teach junior to "smoosh" the faces of his bullies.....

Folks, even if the kid put up his hands to defend himself, he would have had the same punishment as the instigator. I know this first hand with my boys ~ talking with school administrators was worthless and a waste of time, although one assistant principal told me that he was glad my son stood up to the notorious bully. Nonetheless, my son received the same number of days of suspension as the cretin who started it. The office wouldn't give me the bully's parents names and phone numbers so there was a road block for the parents to try and work it out.

I'm not one of those parents who spouts "give peace a chance" when some creep got one of my kids in their line of fire. I'm a single parent of four children and my kids knew that they had to deal with it themselves but when things got way out of hand, I'd visit the school, in my business suit, heels and trench coat (usual attire for a department manager) and talk with the teachers and principal. My kids loved it when I hit the halls - they knew the administration nor faculty wouldn't help them out so when Mom arrived, it was great. They too had kids say to them "I wish my Mom would stand up for me".

In today's society, parents do have to stand up for their children because these days is not one person bullying a kids, it is a whole group. I know this first hand, my son has been bullied for years due to the perception that he is gay but he stands up for himself. I usually let him deal with the situation. Recently I had to step in when one of the kids kept throwing a knife on the ground where he was standing. I did go up to the kid and told him the next time him or his friends threaten my son with a knife, I will call the police and press charges. It never happened again. On another occasion, a parent was texting my son regarding an incident that happened between her daughter and my son. I did contact her and let her know that she was embarrassing a child. It turned out that her daughter was lying about the whole incident but so far no apology. This is the danger of when parents get involved without knowing the whole story. This make themselves look like fools.

ummm.. Alex its very very likely that her son did not have the ability to do such "pummeling".

...and women - "Clam up" and take some responsibility... Fact. Most men do not want a child before getting married OR first discussing it with you.

Well Mark, there are ways to prevent children and if a man does not want a child he should take the initiative to make sure HIS actions do not result in the child he doesn't want.

It works both ways. Why is it always the woman's fault?

Well Mark, there are ways to prevent children and if a man does not want a child he should take the initiative to make sure HIS actions do not result in the child he doesn't want.

It works both ways. Why is it always the woman's fault?

It's everyone's fault; however, women have more options and reproductive rights; therefore, have more responsibility.

Well then Mark. If guys don't want a baby before being married then use a @!$%#in condom! Geeez lazy ass guys who say...."I just can't enjoy it if we use a condom" are JUST as responsible for the pregnancy as the women. I love when guys like Mark and Rick post....their ignorant, whiny "it's NEVER the man's fault" posts just prove how irresponsibile some people can be! And NO Some guy...pregnancy is EQUAL responsibility. I tell ya, lazy ass guys like you prove just how pathetic guys have become in our society. It's more the woman's responsibility... women have to become more and more responsible for things cause lazy ass guys become more and more irresponsible. I'm so very glad I'm in a relationship with a strong, intelligent man who knows what it is to be a man...who enjoys taking control and embraces it. I'm not lazy or irresponsible, by far.... but in our relationship I know I don't have to be strong and responsible for both of us. Get a spine you lazy irresponsible guys....then maybe you'll stop whining about not getting enough sex...if you just become a bit more responsible about it.

Way to go into your man hate tz.

It is both people's fault. Men should not abandon their children, but women should not just keep sleeping around if they already have 3 baby's daddys. Women can lie about taking the pill, or claim someone else is the father. They can also get custody of their children, and keep them from the father as well. If you want to address the major issue of dead beat fathers, look for ways to stop the courts from destroying the lives of good fathers. With some of the b.s. I've seen men go through just to see their kids, I dont blame people who run quite as much. (I still think they are bad, btw)

To Some Guy 5289621: If by that you mean more options as in more methods of birth control available to choose from, then yes she has more options. If you mean that a woman can choose to keep the pregnancy or terminate it without input from the biological father, then yes, she has more rights. But consider this--Women also are subject to a lot more risks. As my husband has said "For millenia, childbirth was the single most dangerous thing most women would face in their lifetimes. Even with modern medicine today, it can be life threatening". BTW, my husband is a retired physician. When it comes to RESPONSIBILITY, both are equally responsible!

Mitchell you have that right! If the government would stay out of people's lives maybe they could raise their kids better. Mothers are getting arrested in Wal-Mart for spanking their child, fathers take a belt to a talking back kid and goes to jail. No, people should not be allowed to abuse their kids, but a good whack on the butt often does a lot of good that talking will not do. And for those who are cutting grandparents for raising their grandkids, I've raised some of my grandkids and they are doing great, better than the ones that were raised by their parent. So maybe grandparents need to step in and show our children how to raise their children to be better adults. Oh yeah, I almost forgot! The government frowns on grandparents and don't give us any rights until we have to step in to take charge of a child in court.

Someone posted:

I applaud the mom's desire to stand up for her kid, I'm just surprised she didn't get whacked around by the man-child bully. C'mon, many 17-year-old boys today have a full beard and are as big as a adult male

and another:

The "child" is 17. IMO, that's not a child. In a lot of states, that's the legal age of consent

....what about widdle trayvon martin?

and all this time I thought he was a "little child"

thanks for clearing that up

Well it's a tad bit different when an adult stalks and murders an unarmed 17 year-old. Glad I could clear that up for ya.

Yeah, the doubble negative was, to me, the high point of the article.

It's truly sad that a 17 year old student in this country would use such atrocious grammar.
Seems to be too much testosterone and not enough desire to learn and work hard to get ahead.

How is he supposed to get ahead in a world that doesn't even bother to try to educate him? Show some pity for these kids, instead of talking down to them from your high horse. They have it bad.

In defense of speech regardless of pronunciation and grammer, a lot of people have cultural, locality, and other circumstances which affect their articulation. I myself am a southerner who at times will talk like my mom does. It will be full of colorful hillbilly sayings and slang like taters, I reckon, and so on. Iffin we was to take you--uns back a spell in history you-ed sound pretty funny too.

Yeah... I did a face palm when I read that too. My grammar may not be perfect, but if this kid came into an interview talking like that I'd be looking forward to the next applicant immediately.

@Eric - Education is a structured form of instruction. So you are saying teachers do not provide a structured form of instruction to kids? Or are you mistaking Education for Learning or Knowledge? There is a difference. Education comes from a classroom whereas Learning/Knowledge comes from experience, practice and/or studying your homework. Education provides the opportunity to learn but does not mean you will.

Maybe if their parents unplugged the XBOX for 2hrs on a school night and instead make them do homework, we'd have a more "knowledgeable" society with a lesser need for pity.

@Bob - Actually, the "hillbilly" sayings you mention are in fact due to uneducated individuals (100+ years ago) which mimicked the pronunciation of a word without knowing how to spell it or sound of the vowels. They still required to interact with society; with or without an education. Children learn language through the exact same process - mimicking their parents. The pronunciation of those "hillbilly" words are just continued today as an accent.

There is a difference between pronunciation of words due to cultural influences and grammar. Grammar is a set of rules to follow when constructing words into sentences that convey an idea or thought. I suppose the kid pronounced everything correctly... he just failed to understand what he was really saying. This kid basically just said everything was true by using a double negative; that has nothing to do with pronunciation and everything to do with failing to have learned 3rd grade grammar.

Communication is important part of society. Knowing how to convey thoughts through language will impact your success within any society. And society will always judge one's ability to conform; within reason - hence being called a "hillbilly" today isn't flattering in most cases.

Ever listen to a supposed college grad who is being interviewed as a NFL player?

Have pity on a 17 year old who tries to abuse a weaker, younger person? Have pity on an almost adult who has not learned to speak the King's English properly. Have pity on an America that has teachers with tenure, who we cannot get free of.

Yeah, there is enough pity to go around. And then stand on your hind legs and demand that the school officals and the bus driver who allow this crap to continue be disciplined. Demand that this 17 year old take remedial classes so he has enough self respect not to react towards his weaker counterpart in such a manner. And allow that mother the right to defend her own child when the system fails. And it has failed, in this case and in manner others.

I was bullied in Jr. high. As a 4'11" female I did not stand much of a chance against the boy that made it his daily duty to assault me. As with the other stories, one day I snapped and beat the crap out of him with my lunch box. I do not remember much of the altercation and was escorted to the principals office. My mother came and got me. I was not punished at home, as I was raised to bring no harm to others, unless, they bring harm to you. I have raised my children the same way. I have made a few visits to the school because, as it was explained to me, my children fight back, and fighting as we all know, is not allowed in school. I agree with that, a line must be drawn somewhere. We cannot expect the school and it's staff to "handle" our children and others. It is beyond them. They can barely conduct class with some of the "challenging students" in their classroom. My children were not punished by me as I will not raise a "victim of society". All of this stems from the parents, and their lack of parenting skills. Nothing is going to change, and unfortunately this problem will get much worse. When children are taking their own lives because they cannot get any help from the abuse from the other students it is a real problem, but we as a society are not really addressing it. So, one must take matters into their own hands and deal with the situation the best way they know how, to protect their child. Not everyones choice in this area will mesh with everyone, just like our inability to find a good solution for it. I do not know what the correct answer is. I just raised my children, as a single mother, to be good humans, care for other people, be humble, and....not to get beaten by someone without fighting back. As adults I can honestly say, they are good humans and productive members of society, not victims.

She needs to get her son kickboxing classes and let him open his own case of whup. Her beating up the bully isn't going to do her son any good at all.

Yes I guess we should all let it continue until the bullies show up with a weapon of some sort and someone gets seriously injured. The system protects the perps more than the victims.

Yes I guess we should all let it continue until the bullies show up with a weapon of some sort and someone gets seriously injured. The system protects the perps more than the victims.

Actually, it's usually the victims of bullying that shows up with a weapon.

The system is designed to protect the accused, not the accuser. That's how it's supposed to work so, as a society, we don't falsely imprison someone who isn't guilty of the crime they're accused of.

NO dave... you did NOT read that right. She confronted the friend of her child... she obviously thought he was her son's friend AND that he bullied him. Try really READING an article before posting on it, it will make you sound much less ignorant.

@ tz-3189354

Lol. You are the one that needs to re-read the article. The reason she came to the bus stop was to find a fight. The guy that bullied her son and beat him up was the friend of the kid she assaulted. She was clearly just going to the bus stop looking for payback.

I thought the same thing!

Yes, because according to that statement and the double negative, "All of it is true".

Well Don,

what would you be saying if what she did resulted in serious injury or death and it could have. If an

adult approached one of my childen , to even a score. What should I do then ?bring a gun to the bus stop? Because I might just do that.

clarice crews, did you watch the video, read the story? I'm sorry, the one is 17 and to me, that is an adult. I'll standby what I said. she should have reported the problem and if it happened again, odds are it would, she should sue everyone involved, the kid, the parents, bus driver,school, county and state gov. If everyone bullied attempted this, maybe the schools would but a stop to it. If not, sik mother on them and she can beat the crap out of them.

Why didn't the mother just drive her son to school? Most seventeen year olds on a bus are not the cream of the crop.

The schools can't and won't do much about bullying. At my son's school which is located at a middle class suburb, there is a fight every week and it is mostly involved girls. This week, a girl had her head split open in a fight was started by her. However, I bet the girl that was attacked will probably face charges, face a fine and suspension because the other girl got hurt. At my son's school, any fights gets up a 7 day suspension, the only way to not get suspended is to not fight back which is totally stupid. So if someone is bullying you by starting a fight with you, when they hit you, you can't hit back, so you will continue on being bullied. They are not treating the problem, just handing out punishment.

Our county also profits from any fights. When a fight occurs, the police are called, charges are filed by the school and the student who started the fight gets a $300.00 fine which the parents have to pay. The fines are not a deterrent, I think a much effective deterrent would be community service and if they failed to do it, a 7 day stay in juvenile detention. I think exposure to real criminals would be a much better way to stop kids from fighting.

One time of defending yourself and nobody will mess with you again.

That's bull. Real life isn't "A Christmas Story." When the little guy punches the big guy, the big guy just gets mad, and beats the living crap out of the little guy. Do you tell people in wheelchairs to stand up for themselves (no pun intended)? Do you tell old people to stand up for themselves? Why should the small and weak *have* to defend themselves? Bullies are to blame, and their parents who don't teach them how to treat others. Administrators and teachers (and other kids who aren't so small) need to stand up for the little guys, just like they do if a guy picks on a girl. And parents need to be held responsible for bullying by their kids.

Bullies are to blame, and their parents who don't teach them how to treat others. Administrators and teachers (and other kids who aren't so small) need to stand up for the little guys, just like they do if a guy picks on a girl. And parents need to be held responsible for bullying by their kids.

Much in the same way rapists are always to blame for rape. That doesn't mean you should go around making yourself an easy target.

Dave is partially right, if his son gets bullied, but consistently makes himself a difficult person to bully (i.e. fighting back, and other things) then the bullies will move on to easier targets.

That's what bullies do. They don't pick on the biggest, meanest looking person, they pick on the smaller, weaker looking ones.

It is most effective for the one bullied to stand up to the bully. My 8yr old brother was bullied on the bus by a an 8th grader. He hit him square on the nose and the 8th grader just cried. Then he tried to tell on my brother and the bus driver said he saw nothing.

Yeah, tried that. I punched him in the face as hard as I could. Made him REAL mad. Sure, it works sometimes, but mostly it's just a way for others to avoid dealing with the REAL problem... the bully, and his parents! People always tell boys "it's wrong to hit a girl", but they SHOULD say "it's wrong to hit ANYONE, EVER!"

I'm a big guy and my sons are all grown up and can defend their self. When they were children and on more than one occasion they were bullied by older children. My response was to take them to the home of the child bullied them and attempt to settle it by talking to the parents. You would be suprised how many parents could give a crap less if their child is bullying others. When I got that response, I replied, that if their son started anything with my children, that the father and I would resolve it. That usually worked, like I said, i'm a pretty big guy.

My son was bullied, for the last year.

We taked to the kid first. Then talked to the parents. Then talked to the kid again!

Then I went to talk to the parents. We got into an argurement.

4 months later, He was still being bullied.

The parents talk a good game. ( My son would not do that!)

BS!

A week after, he was on our street cussing at my son and calling him a Fag, racial slurs.

I chased the kid back to his house.
The police came to me.

Acussing me of trying to hit the kid.

I told the the police I did it.

They told me I could be arrested.

When I told them about the kid picking on my kid. They told me this.
(You don't think your son, hasn't done anything worng sir!)

My son is in the (TAG) Talented And Gifted program.

Thier is no kids or parents that doesn't like my son. All the parents and kids on or street like my son and say he is well behaved and he treats everyone with respect.

So the police give me a warning.

A week later it happens again. So I see the kids oldest brother. I try and talk to him.

He starts cussing at me and telling me that he was walking away because he didn't want to go to jail for kicking my butt.

I told the kid that if he made that mistake I would finish him and then drag him back to his house.

I called the police and they never came!

Told me they have better thing to do!

Now it is a year later with no postitve outcome, for us!

Well two nights after I talked to the older brother, who is 15 years old.

He shows up at my driveway at 3:05 am and starts screaming he wants to kill my whole family.

Se it his way , I am awaking at 3:00am sleeping with all my family sleeping.

I am armed for just this reason.

I step out my door and tell the kid and his mother to get the hell out of here.

It took two of my nieghbors, to get them to leave.

After that, I went to the police station near us.

I had to threaten to kill them all, before the police officer would even go and talk to the family.

Here is something the officer said, ( your just pissed he called you racial names).

I told him it is about the builling!

He them talks to my wife and says to her that the kid has a mental issues. She we have to just let it go!

The next morning the 15 year old is bragging about how he was drunk the night before and how he was threatening me.

The officer never even talked to the kid. If he did he would have known the 15 year old was drunk.

So I say, the mother should have gone to his house and bullied his parents.

There is nights I can't sleep because I am so worried about this kid coming back over here and me having no option but to kill him!
these kids bully and the police don't do anything about it.

So good job mom!

Defend your kids allways!

Mickens told WESH.com. "I don't even talk to her son. I don't even hang around him ... None of that ain't true."

Mabey hese just madd because his speech is not good speaching for a skool kids. He'is must have been go-in to the same gubment skool i was went too. Powr to the Mikcens boy' Kick the moms asses to?

Elvan Wilson III--Have you tried putting up cameras, and/or taping what goes on? Then you have definitive proof. I remember a parent in the news who did that--put a little hidden mike on her son who was being bullied, of all things, by his teacher.

Elvan--one other thing--If the bully shows up again in the middle of the night, maybe someone else--like one of your neighbors who tried to help you that night, could call the police--different house, phone number, etc--and instead of "That bully is at it again", say something like "OMG, there's some crazy person out in the middle of our neighborhood trying to cause mayhem--I'm scared, please come!" Maybe they would come and see it for themselves. Just a thought.

Moms mistake was taking it on the bus. Yep, never should have gone there. Little cretian was seen shoving her on the ground and that's where she should have stayed. SCREAMING AND WRITHING IN PAIN. Yep. His tail would have been in jail. Once Mom got on the bus it became a school matter and we all know schools don't act in the child's best interest. School's act in the District's best interest.

And yet another reason I am so glad I moved out of that school district.

Half the teachers there are bullies, the education is horrific, kids in the middle school bring weapons, and so on and so on........

Complaining to the principal doesn't do any good either.

I was going to say the same thing regarding the bully. Neither the mom or her son knew that this kid was involved without a doubt. They assumed by association. The mom was wrong in going after this kid as she handled the situation very poorly. Secondly, if you are going to take matters into your own hands, be sure that the person you are going after is the one causing the problems and take the appropriate measures. In this case, this kid wasn't the one who went after her son. All her actions were based on the "Shoot First, Ask Questions Later" scenario. She acted on her emotions without looking into who was responsible first.

how about a solution? I pity your child if he is bullied and if you don't know all the facts here, why are you judging?

Friend of Bully pushed her on the ground. WAKE UP AMERICA.

I am with mom on this one. A 17 yr old is not a "kid" and he neede his butt kicked. The schools just brush parents off

The societal double standard on this is ridiculous, the legal definition of what constitutes being an adult should not be situational.

Good for her! She is a hero to me and all the bullied kids in schools everywhere.

When I was in high school, I was smaller than most, but I used to stand tall and look people in the eye. I never got bullied, but it happened around me. When one of my freinds got bullied, I went after the bully, who was much bigger than me and I beat the crap out of him and let him know why. I didn't even know how to fight! It cured him and guess what? He ended up becoming one of my best freinds too.

To this day, I have not a care what the bad guys background is, what motivates him, why he acts like he does, if he's crazy or off his meds, nothing. Only that his behavior needs to be ended any way it can.

Punishment should fit the crime. Beat someone up, get beat up yourself. Violent crime, violence to you. Murder someone, death penalty. Our society would work so much better if bleeding hearts would worry more about victims than perps. I could never understand their philosophy. It is as if they came from a different planet. The wrong planet.

Georgieboy, she attacked a teenager who was a friend of the bully. He was not the one who physically went after her son. She pulled the "guilty by association" move. If you have a friend who bullies people, then we are to assume that it's okay to beat you up because you are a friend of that bully and can assume that you were in on it too. Not fair or right is it? People need to calm down and look more at the situation before flying off the handle without thinking straight and taking matters into their own hands. She was at fault for going after this kid because she was blinded by her anger and didn't stop to think that this kid may not have had anything to do with his friend beating up her son. Regardless, she was in the wrong for coming after the guy without notifying the school first of the situation and finding out all the details.

Not sure where you got your info, I didn't read it the way you did. I agree, she shouldn't have hit that 17 year on child. Me, I would have went to a lawyer, and started the sueing process, get the school, county, state,bus driver and the parents of all children involved. Maybe I wouldn't win anything, but it wouldn't have cost me anything. Everyone else would have to at least pay for their lawyer.

I grew up in a bad area and despite my cry for help and all the problems that
were going on no one had a resolution. 7th grade a boy tried to molest me in
the classroom I stood up to him and he beat me up knocked out my front teeth
right in the class room again law or school did nothing he was suspended for 3
days I went through 3 month of hell, in 8^th grade a group of
girls tormented me with fear they were
going to beat me up and the schools did
nothing but call the bullies in and say stop doing that, then brought us all in
a room together I was in tears because I feared these girls I didn't know them
I was white and they were a Mexican gang and wanted to bully someone I dropped
out of 8th grade and home schooled, kids need body guards and bullies need public display of discipline ( a good
spanking in front of peers) for their
bad behaviors humiliation is the only thing they know there reputation is what concerns them. Ending with that the law, police and school
don’t know what to do and don’t really care anymore. It believe it is both kids
fault even the innocent one.

I don’t think this mom beating the boy was right but I know and understand her frustrations,
fear and helplessness in the situation, a good mother will do almost anything
to protect her child.

So when did this becme a country of not being allowed to defend oneself, or stand by and let the bullies be, or not defending another who is being bullied? It's rampant in this country. Laws that kick the bullied kid out of school if he pushes back, where nothing is done to the bully. And THEN we wonder why teens go back and start shooting everyone. REALLY!?!

The police get involved if you DEFEND yourself? I had the police called on me... thank GOD they listend, but it took a retelling of the facts about 4 X before the cop understood me. He'd mistaken the dad for the son in our case. It was "told" that my son was a bully, which is SO far from the fact it's not funny, and the other person's son ALWAYS goes to get the Dad to scare the CRAP out of all the kids into doing what HE demands. And the DAD was accosting MY son literally right when my son would step out the door. ON MY DOORSTEP with accusations when my son hadn't even been outside. the ONLY reason the cop listened to me, was because the dad had a history of assault. On who? THE KID who "used" him and on the kids MOM who stupidly lets him live with her and HER son (who is NOT his biological kid) I was ready to get a shotgun for the purpose of shooting the dad on MY doorstep, who'd done this more than a dozen times. The dad: 6'3 195 MUSCLED pounds, along with a PERMANENTLY angry face and who doesn't mind attacking women. Especially single moms. But HEAVEN forbid in this country I get the right to protect me and my son from a man llike that. My son was 12 years old. We had to move because of the constant threat.

When our children are being driven to SUICIDE or to mass shootings, all in the name of "let the authorities" handle it, who ONLY have the 2 sides (or more) of the story to figure out, when the people involved KNOW who is the bully, WHY is self-defense taking from the people of this country. NO one should be assualted ANYWHERE. Self defense is NOT up to the authroties, when a person is in danger of being physically hurt, they should have the right NOT to be expelled for it from school or from the bus. When I was 16 I clocked the school bully ONCE and it changed his tune. Everyone was VERY happy to no longer have him as a worry. A "friend" of the bully is JUST as guilty as an accessory to the crime. One who stands by, OR encourages bullying is JUST AS WRONG as the actual DOER. This has to STOP in our country. SELF-DEFENSE MUST BE ALLOWED! And so does confronting the wrongdoer!

I was lucky. I had big brothers and they had friends. Jr High, I had a problem with a group of boys who thought it would be funny to spit in my hair... ONCE. I stopped at a gas station to wash it out and went home with wet hair. The next day when I walked home the boys came taunting and yelling about what they were going to do to me next. Once we passed the intersection it was out of school bounds they said. I was unafraid. My brothers who were in High School were waiting across the same intersection with their friends. I kept walking and went home. My brothers stopped the boys and introduced themselves. They had a discussion about the last bully that picked on me and that they would hate to have to go through all that again. The blood, hiding the bodies, answering all the questions. Those boys never bothered me again.... huh? Who knew it could be so easy?

Just goes to show you how inadequate our current system of dealing with bullies is. The teachers do nothing besides tell you to buck up and dont be a baby. The principal is so concerned with getting levies passed so people can keep jobs. Bullying does not always come in the form of hitting. Just go through your kids facebook page (yes children do not have a right to privacy). On another note, contrary to belief by others, when fat people get hit, they do have nerve endings and it does hurt.

that would work. Wouldn't they hit and kick back? Also don't you get the feeling that more than one was involved?

Too true, I had a similar situation with my daughter. Some kid grabbing her "inappropriately" [ how the school termed it]. I told her she could defend herself and she did. No more problem.

I have taught my kids one simple rule when it comes to anybody trying to bully them.

Beat the @!$%# out of them. If somebody ever tries to bully you, you deal with them on the spot. Never -ever- allow anybody to bully you.

All my kids know the deal. They will never get in trouble for defending themselves. And yes, all 4 of my children have been suspended from school for just this at one point or another and i'm fine with it.

Bullies only understand one thing and if thats what it takes...so be it.....

GOOD FOR HER! that kinda Sh-- has to be adressed at some point and at the heart of the matter is it!

Schools officials ,bus drivers and even parents of the bullier don't care to get involved - h--- thats why he is the way he is , cause his parents are lame in dicipline. GOOD FOR HER!

As far as I'm concerned , the kid got off lucky if he's still standing

I agree with what she did... I would of done the same thing ...Law is for rich people who can buy the law.....So there for if, Mrs Felecia Phillips has a way for me to send her some money to help her pay for the bond fee i will

You are so right JJD - as a mom of boys, I might have done something similar. Im sick of bullying, Im sick of schools and districts that have zero tolerance for some thing and stick their heads in the sand about others. So I guess add me to the list that would have "smooshed his face or whatever" cuz I support what she did! My boys always had our support of protecting themselves......NEVER EVER let anyone bully you - kid or adult, it doesn't matter........