New Jersey tells drivers: You can't smile too much in license photos

With its infamous long lines, going to the Department of Motor Vehicles to get your license is usually nothing to smile about. These days, it's a mandatory no-big-smiles policy in New Jersey, one of a growing list of states that tell drivers drivers to keep a poker face in their license photos.

Since February, New Jersey motorists have had to maintain neutral expressions on their faces for photographs because of new face-recognition software. Exaggerated facial expressions, like smiling widely, can confuse this software, which is intended to catch fraud, the Philadelphia Daily News reported.


This practice is nothing new and works with other photo guidelines, like eyes needing to be open and no glasses, New Jersey Motor Vehicle Commission spokesperson Elyse Coffey told NBC News on Thursday.

"Please don’t give us the 'I-just-won-five-million-dollars-in-the-lottery-smile," Coffey said. Instead, she said, residents can smile in a natural way.

Using the facial-recognition technology is part of New Jersey's effort to go through 19 million photo records to catch duplicates, scammers who are trying to create a new identity or people trying to cheat another state agency for services, according to Coffey.

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On Tuesday, New Jersey resident Velvet S. McNeil told the Daily News that she was so baffled why she couldn't smile when she went to take her driver's license picture in Cherry Hill, N.J., that she left in protest. "Why should we all look like androids, looking mopey? I know there are some people who don't have good driver's licenses, but I actually keep all mine," McNeil told the Daily News.

But now that McNeil, 38, knows about the policy, she told the Daily News that she will return to renew her license.

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"Some, not all, of the facial recognition technologies can be adversely impacted if a person’s expression is anything other than neutral," said Claire O'Brien, spokesperson for the American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators, in a statement. "In other words, smiling could potentially affect the accuracy of the technology."

New Jersey is not alone in its photo rule: Arkansas, Indiana, Nevada and Virginia are among states that require "neutral facial expressions" to combat fraud, according to a USA TODAY report in 2009.

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Nothing new. Other states like Virginia and Texas have been doing this for quite some time.

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Reply#1 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:15 PM EDT

Yes, so is Tennessee. However, you can make a face, and no one will care.

    #1.1 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:08 PM EDT

    So, to beat the face recognition software, the criminals and terrorists can just keep a big smile on their faces when they're out in public and all the big brother cameras are worthless... is that the point of this story?

    • 19 votes
    #1.2 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:17 PM EDT

    I always call the tip line when I see someone grinning too much.

    • 8 votes
    #1.3 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:18 PM EDT

    Don't smile for your driver's license photo. You want it to look like your gonna look when you get pulled over. That's why I always renew my driver's license when I'm drunk.

    • 24 votes
    #1.4 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:43 PM EDT

    So I should wear the "I'm about to argue with a cop" look?

    • 3 votes
    #1.5 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:45 PM EDT

    Darr247 , it isn't about walking on the streets smiling it is about comparing the photo to all photos in the system trying to catch people with multiple names and licenses across multiple states or even within one state , I believe it is more to catch social security fraud and welfare fraud than anything else .

    • 2 votes
    #1.6 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:43 PM EDT

    After living for over 30 yrs in the grand State of New Jersey....I can assure all reading this that there really isnt all that much to smile about in that particular state.

    I have found that living in Minnesota, however, one tends to smile more. And easily, as well.

    Carry on NJ.

    • 6 votes
    #1.7 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:58 PM EDT

    Do they have a reason to be happy with Christie

      #1.8 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:12 PM EDT

      "You can't smile too much."

      Outsourcing journalists?

      The headline is opposite of the reported story, don't smile too much.

      • 2 votes
      #1.9 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:33 PM EDT

       I had the chance to visit New Jersey back in 1989 and discovered the gorgeous westward part and delightfully friendly people. Every state in this nation has something beautiful and unique to treasure. So happy you are enjoying the land of 10,000 lakes. People in other states find it a strange tradition to just drop by with a plate of goodies without first calling ahead.

      As for photos, thank heavens we can still smile where I live now. I guess if it changes I could go for "if looks could kill" image. I have been told that. Surely I could not be charged because they would have told me I couldn't smile to prevent death right? Or maybe"stare deeply into my eyes" hypnotic glance. Could I get in trouble with that one if the camera guy falls asleep?

      Who knows, someday maybe licenses will include finger prints and our DNA in digital recorded form so everyone will be tracked. Our cars are now recording our movements and habits.As do stores, street cameras, parks, businesses, even satellites. Imagine knowing who, where, what, when and why a person is moving about. Just missing the DNA and prints. Hey, it's for "our"protection right? Welcome to Big Brother!

      • 2 votes
      #1.10 - Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:01 AM EDT

      When they took my photo they did it with my glasses on and the flash caught the one lens, look like a pirate, so now when I got pulled over the cop had to shine his flash light in my one eye. When I drove away I was blind so I ran into things because I couldn't see. Now I don't have to worry about a drivers license, I worry about license plates anybody want to buy one???

        #1.11 - Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:51 PM EDT

        You(s) are right (hey, I'm from Philly!) This constant invasion of our privacy is compliments of the Patriot Act. September 11th gave the govt a great excuse to watch our every move, all in the name of our security and protection, I might add. This is not about protecting us from Social Security and Welfare fraud - government is pretty lax about that - remember the people who crashed the state dinner at the White House? Seemed to me our president would have been better protected by private security guards making $10.00 an hour! I worked for govt. briefly and never saw anyone knock themselves out on the job, just putting in time until retirement and keeping an eye on the ole pension. This "no smile"zone in NJ is right up there with billionaire Mayor Bloomberg in NYC who has kept us from drinking too much soda. Where does it stop? I'm not sure who the enemy is anymore, that's for sure. There definitely isn't much to smile about in NJ, especially the taxes.

        • 1 vote
        #1.12 - Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:52 PM EDT

        @Windancer,

        Oh, don't worry. I'm sure the fingerprints and DNA are coming soon...under one 'excuse' or another. I've had to ID thumbprint the back of a Federal tax refund check in Jersey as well as present a plethora of various ID's. And that was for deposit only. And yes, I find the Land of 10,000 Lakes very enjoyable. Just gotta remember that 'soda' is 'pop' and 'casseroles' are 'hotdish'. (?) Other than all that, it's just great...doncha know? Ha.

        @JerseyKat,

        Agreed with alot of what you stated. After awhile, it would seem that so many regulations on so many aspects of life would just get to be too....overbearing. Maybe that's what we're starting to see now. And as far as the 'enemy' goes, for some reason, it reminds me of the quote: "We have met the enemy and he is Us." Ooooh.

          #1.13 - Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:26 PM EDT
          Reply

          Non story.

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          Reply#2 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:19 PM EDT

          It's such a "Non story" you felt compelled to comment upon it?

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          #2.1 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:15 PM EDT

          non comment?

          • 8 votes
          #2.2 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:16 PM EDT
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          I live in New Jersey; there is nothing here to smile about.

          • 18 votes
          Reply#3 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:23 PM EDT

          Right. The request should be asking residents to stop looking so depressed in photos.

          • 5 votes
          #3.1 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:11 PM EDT

          I escaped the People's Republic of New Jersey about 24 years ago and have never looked back. Not much to smile about there.

          • 5 votes
          #3.2 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:40 PM EDT
          Comment author avatarrbjk0174sExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

          Obviously, you morons who had bad experiences here would have them most places. I've lived in South Jersey most of my life and I love it here. There's plenty of beautiful farmland and there are plenty of down-to-Earth people (if you're not a putz, you won't attract putzes). Glad you bashers took your pea brains out of here.

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          #3.3 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:16 PM EDT

          You didn't have to tell us you live in New Jersey rbjk0174s, your comments place you near the top of the intellectual and cultural treasure that the rest of America only got to see on "Jersey Shore" and "Real Housewives of New Jersey". Yep, a proud tradition as New York's doormat and landfill.

          • 3 votes
          #3.4 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:32 PM EDT

          Come on tommyboy , what about Snooki !

          • 1 vote
          #3.5 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:11 PM EDT

          Mjolnir - Where are you from Mr. "I'm better than you"? New Jersey is a very diverse place with lots of little subcultures, some of which are portrayed on shows such as "Jersey Shore" and "Desperate Housewives". "Jersey Shore" takes place in Seaside Heights. Seaside Heights (which is about a 1 mile strip of beach along the Jersey Shore) was portrayed very accurately, but there are major sections of the Jersey Shore that are actually nice. In addition to South Jersey, north and Western Jersey are also very rural and picturesque. I grew up about an hour due west of New York City, and had 3 acres of grass to mow and no traffic to get stuck in. The Sopranos also very accurately depicted a sub-culture of New Jersey (if you take out the mafia themes).

          If we're talking taxes, cost of living and stuff like that, yeah... New Jersey has some issues, but to judge the populace of an entire state by Michael "The Situation" Sorrentino (who was one of only 3 castmembers even from there, and someone I personally remember was considered a shmuck for simultaneously wearing 2 button-down shirts to work several years ago) proves that you have no business judging anyone else's intellectual capacity.

          • 3 votes
          #3.6 - Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:14 AM EDT
          Reply

          Mine shows the "I just murdered 10 people" expression.

          • 8 votes
          Reply#4 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:49 PM EDT

          Perhaps they just want everyone to look as unhappy as their Governor?

          • 5 votes
          Reply#5 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:11 PM EDT

          The only reason to smile in New Jersey is when you see the sign that you're leaving New Jersey.

          • 14 votes
          Reply#6 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:12 PM EDT

          Or laugh at the town signs that say "A Friendly Community".

          • 6 votes
          #6.1 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:21 PM EDT
          Comment author avatarPat-2643768-2643768Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

          I resent that. Where do you live? in one of the swamp states? Your comment shows some inbreeding in your background

          • 1 vote
          #6.2 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:46 PM EDT

          Wow, ignoranus post #2 from Pat. You are on a roll. I will let Mjolnir answer for himself, but I suspect Pat will be embarrased...

          • 5 votes
          #6.3 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:49 PM EDT

          First one or two of us actually like New Jersey.

          I lived out of state in the south and enjoyed returning to weather and appreciating seasons.

          That being said. . . Last I checked New Jersey is a swamp.

          • 3 votes
          #6.4 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:47 PM EDT

          Looks like TFNJ has no job or hobbies. He/she is commenting on every post. Sad sap.

          As for Mjolnir's ignorant post, go p*ss up a rope. Whatever rat hole you live in is probably filled with clueless gits like yourself. NJ has plenty of beautiful areas...hence the "Garden State." Moron!

          • 2 votes
          #6.5 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:19 PM EDT

          rbjk0174s

          Looks like TFNJ has no job or hobbies. He/she is commenting on every post. Sad sap.

          Ya but he is funny, so there is that.

          Plus you have more than your fair share of comments on here to. lol not picking a fight just saying.

          • 2 votes
          #6.6 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:47 PM EDT

          Oh Pat, being able to laugh at yourself is a virtue, sorry you didn't get the joke. I apologize if I uncovered some festering sores about your state... I'm sure Camden is as much of a wonderland as it was when I lived there. In fact, Jersey is incredibly valuable because it makes Philadelphia look cultured.

          And rbjk0174s, my apologies as well as I always thought the motto was "Garbage State". But, after reading your thought-provoking argument I'm forced to admit that Jersey is indeed a beautiful state that is unfortunately populated with Jerseyites.

          Look at it this way, at least it's not Texas.

          • 2 votes
          #6.7 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:26 PM EDT

          We are not Jerseyites. We are New Jerseyans, first of all. Secondly, after living in California for nearly 20 years, and having recently moved back to Jersey, I can say I am happy to be home! Where the people aren't plastic, and neither is the food!

          • 1 vote
          #6.8 - Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:32 AM EDT

          My 3 children were born & raised in S Florida the same as I was but perfer to live in S Jersey. They say it's a better place to raise rheir kids. Small town, friendly people, clean ar, low crime rate, resh fruits & veggie stands & all the hoidays are more fun. But personally I'll stay in Floriduh, much more interesting with a lot of culteral diversity, great resterants ( bad spelling) :). Concerts & museums of all kinds, broadway plays, beautiful beaches friendly people who are more laid back & not so uptight & or judgemental.of those who don't conform to there idea of what's the 'norm. Much more tolerant & much more fun to be around. I'll just lie here on the beach with my Corona & watch the sun rise & feed bread crumbs to the

            #6.9 - Fri Sep 21, 2012 2:48 AM EDT

            Actually South Florida is the only place in the country that Jerseyites and New Yorkers can go to and marvel at how rude, trashy and criminally predisposed the locals are.

            @ Jenn, you don't get to choose your own nickname; others do because they're more objective.

              #6.10 - Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:27 AM EDT

              LOL. Let me make this clear. I am in my upper 40's, and have lived in New Jersey all my life, I am still in New Jersey, and do not plan on moving away from New Jersey. I love it here.

              Second, anyone coming into an article about smiling for a license photo, using angry tones and showing a lack of a sense of humor, has more to worry about than how much I comment on articles. I am a Systems IT person, and probably make more money sitting here surfing the web than you do in your grueling jobs.

              So Pat and rbjk0174s, if jokes from others bother you that much, then that says more about you than the jokers. Now, I will continue with my snappy remarks and Jersey jokes, like it or not.

              Thank you Robbob, it really is what you make of a post. Those who come into articles to argue can't find a second to laugh.

              Have a great day.

              • 1 vote
              #6.11 - Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:43 AM EDT
              Reply

              "You Can't Smile Too Much" means you can smile.

              Please fix your headline!!!!!!

                Reply#7 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:38 PM EDT

                It would only need fixing to someone who didn't read the article. The body of the article says you can have a slight smile, just no large grins.

                • 4 votes
                #7.1 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:44 PM EDT
                Reply

                Do you ever feel like the Nazi Party is alive and well here in the United States these days.

                • 8 votes
                Reply#8 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:38 PM EDT

                yes the socialist nazi party is doing its best to reel in your freedoms, is that a large soda cup ? You did know nazi's were socialist right, because if you just go by the right wing thing it will make you look really ill informed. In fact check this out, educate yourself and tell all your liberal friends the truth set you free.

                • 1 vote
                #8.1 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:56 PM EDT
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                I've known this since 1987, when I first smiled for my mug shot. It made it very difficult for the local police to recognize me on the street, because I don't normally smile while walking down the street. :)

                That was before computers and facial recognition. I'm glad to hear it still works. :D

                • 3 votes
                Reply#9 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:42 PM EDT

                Does this writer even live in NJ? What long lines? Motor Vehicle has been streamlining their way of doing business for years. I can get in and out in 20 minutes or less for a license renewal and 15 minutes to get through Inspection. Of course I don't go through at peak hours but then nobody should. How about writing about something that you have first hand knowledge about next time?

                • 2 votes
                Reply#10 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:44 PM EDT

                That is probably the least relevant point in that article. True that DMV improved waits, as compared to a few years ago, but that point really doesn't matter, does it??

                • 4 votes
                #10.1 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:47 PM EDT

                You must don't travel much outside the part of NJ you live if you think the lines at the DMV is short and you can get in and out in 20 minutes. Try going to the Newark DMV the next time if you think that's true.

                  #10.2 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:30 PM EDT

                  Eatontown MVC took me 30 minutes (including filling out the forms) to transfer my license when I moved back from CA. Shortest DMV/MVC line I'd ever seen in my life!

                    #10.3 - Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:34 AM EDT

                    It's MVC now, not DMV. And your talking about Newark... seriously? It's a city, there's lots of people there, use some common sense. Maybe you should leave Newark and go to one of the suburbs and you won't waste half your life.

                      #10.4 - Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:21 AM EDT

                      It took me two days to get my license and registration transferred from FL to NJ. My ins. company went paperless but Motor Vehicles wouldn't accept anything less than a mailed copy of proof of insurance. Went home, called insurance company who then mailed me a copy of proof of insurance. Motor Vehicles also wanted proof of my divorce because I had previously lived in NJ under my married name. Went back to Motor Vehicles with the new proof of insurance and other documents the following a week later and then I had to drive to the inspection place. There were a lot of miles between home, Motor Vehicles and Inspection. Ladies, if you ever get married, keep our maiden name so as to avoid identity problems. When I changed my resume back to my maiden name, one of my references called me and wanted to know who I was because he didn't know me by my maiden name and thought it was some kind of fraud. I don't think men go through this aggravation because they keep their name. I'm not smiling in my license picture because I had forgotten while I lived in another state how expensive it is to live in NJ and how they bill and tax you to death.

                        #10.5 - Fri Sep 21, 2012 2:30 PM EDT
                        Reply

                        At least the criminals will be smiling.

                        • 2 votes
                        Reply#11 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:51 PM EDT

                        And the world is a happier place. Warms the heart.

                        • 5 votes
                        #11.1 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:52 PM EDT
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                        I don't normally have a problem with smiling when I go to the MVC(that's what they call the DMV up here).

                        God help you if you put off getting your driver's license to the last weekend of the month, better get there an hour before they open, and you're still going to end up parking on the street two blocks away.

                          Reply#12 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:53 PM EDT

                          Iowa has the same policy, except we cant show our teeth and we have to show our eyebrows. its ridiculous!

                            Reply#13 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:56 PM EDT

                            So basically, your drivers license photo has to look like a mug shot?

                            And does this mean that the government keeps digital copies of everyone's pictures stored in a computer somewhere? Facial recognition software compares digital photos or security camera images to pictures that are stored in a computer with names and other personal information. If they don't want you to smile too broadly for your own picture, that must mean that they are keeping a copy of your photo with your personal information stored in a database to compare other photos to using facial recognition software. If your license ir ID is the only copy of that photo, there will be no issues with any kind of software.

                              Reply#14 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:59 PM EDT

                              Are you for real?

                                #14.1 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:51 PM EDT

                                They do keep the pictures. When you renew your license, the first question is "do you want a new picture". If you say no, they just reprint the last one from the data banks.

                                I have the same, non-smiling face for twenty years now. Not sure what the software can do with it. Did notice that people I haven't seen for 20 years don't recognize me.

                                Some mornings, looking in the mirror, even I get confused.

                                  #14.2 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:45 PM EDT

                                  I work in center city Philly and you have to produce your driver's license to get into city hall and other office buildings. Every time I sign in to enter a building, they request my license and then give me a badge to wear with my driver's license photo on it. I'd be willing to bet all those photos end up stored and available for a myriad of reasons and requesters.

                                    #14.3 - Fri Sep 21, 2012 2:35 PM EDT
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                                    I don't really care whether I'm allowed to smile or not, though my state hasn't brought out the emotion-police yet. What I am wondering is, the article said that exaggerated facial expressions weren't allowed, but I know people whose facial features were exaggerated, whether because they were born that way or by the result of an accident, so what do those people do? Not get a license ever again? Granted, the percentage would be small, but still... Life is getting more and more complicated. Now you can't even have your driver's license photo the way you want.

                                      Reply#15 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:00 PM EDT

                                      I live in New York and the directions to Florida are: Drive due West until you can smell something Bad and then make a Left and hit the Gas

                                      • 1 vote
                                      Reply#16 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:12 PM EDT

                                      Most of our trash in the ocean comes from NY, you bonehead. That cesspool NYC is where the bad smell is.

                                      • 2 votes
                                      #16.1 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:22 PM EDT

                                      And New York sends it to Jersey because it won't be noticed... don't forget that.

                                        #16.2 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:37 PM EDT
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                                        i am not worried about this.i am 78 years old and never had a drivers license,never been pulled over or carded in 65 years.

                                        • 1 vote
                                        Reply#17 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:13 PM EDT

                                        So don't smile in the DMV photo and then smile all day long. The face recognition software will never identify you.

                                        • 2 votes
                                        Reply#18 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:14 PM EDT

                                        I wonder if the would get upset if someone sticks their tongue out.

                                        • 1 vote
                                        Reply#19 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:15 PM EDT

                                        Who wants to smile in Jersey anyway - there is nothing to smile about especially when you can't afford dental costs after paying the TAXES!!!! Please someone buy my house so I can get the hell outta here!

                                        • 2 votes
                                        Reply#20 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:15 PM EDT

                                        There's plenty to smile about if you're not an ignorant, miserable git like yourself. I hope you sell your home too so you can get your pea brain out of here.

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #20.1 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:23 PM EDT

                                        @rbjk0174s:

                                        If everyone in NJ is as pleasant as you, why would anyone have to be told not to smile for their photo?

                                        Do you smile much?

                                          #20.2 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:56 PM EDT

                                          LOL. rbjk0174s has NO problem with this new rule.

                                            #20.3 - Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:48 AM EDT

                                            You're right about that. I bought a cheap fixer upper in Dec. 2010 in NJ. Would you believe my taxes have already gone by almost $600 while my house value has dropped down and I'm almost underwater. Meanwhile, former house in FL has dropped in value, but the taxes have dropped to reflect the lower value of the house. New Jersey doesn't care if your house is worthless - they'll tax it to death anyway and to hell with you.

                                              #20.4 - Fri Sep 21, 2012 3:08 PM EDT
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                                              Big Brother in action. The time of the gestapo is getting closer every day here in the US. I sure am glad I don't live in NJ!

                                              • 1 vote
                                              Reply#21 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:17 PM EDT

                                              We're glad you don't, either. Another anti-NJ moron is what you are!

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                                              #21.1 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:24 PM EDT
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                                              A couple of them states that if I lived in them I wouldn't wanna smile anyway.

                                                Reply#22 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:19 PM EDT

                                                You don't live here, so put a sock in it. Another idiot who judges a state by what other dummies say. MOST have never been here.

                                                • 1 vote
                                                #22.1 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:25 PM EDT

                                                And those that have never, ever return of their own free will. From your commentary, I strongly suspect that you defend it so vigorously because you don't have the education to leave.

                                                  #22.2 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:39 PM EDT

                                                  @rbjk0174s:

                                                  Should we not judge the state of NJ by what dummies say? I think it's time for your medicine.

                                                    #22.3 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:59 PM EDT

                                                    Didn't rbjk0174s claim that I must not have a job and sad because I commented on many posts???? LOL

                                                      #22.4 - Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:47 AM EDT
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                                                      Considering how terrible the service is at New Jersey's DMV branches, I don't think the drivers have much reason to smile anyway when having their photos taken.

                                                        Reply#23 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:24 PM EDT

                                                        I'm SO damn happy when I go to DMV I can't force a "neutral smile". DMV should accept my ear to ear smile due to my ecstacy for being there.

                                                          Reply#24 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:41 PM EDT

                                                          If this was an article about people attempting to get phony drivers licences half of the people on this post would be complaining about the government not doing anything abou it. The government is attempting to do something to stop this and you still complain. What is wrong with some of you folks?

                                                            Reply#25 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:42 PM EDT
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