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Subscribe to RSSThe fourth annual list of “military friendly” colleges – published this week by a veteran-owned company – is as fascinating to peruse to see which schools earn that title as it is for noting which universities are absent.
Using a weighted scoring system and reviews penned by veteran-students – then independently audited by accounting giant Ernst & Young – the 2013 “G.I. Jobs” list includes 1,700 American colleges.
That means about 10,000 schools currently authorized by the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs to accept GI Bill money failed to make the cut.
“Some people are of the opinion that ‘VA approval’ for colleges is a measure of military friendliness. But I would point to the math, from 12,000 schools with VA approval to our 1,700, and assert that we’re able to provide value by offering a list of the schools that have the best leading practices,” said Sean Collins, vice president of Victory Media, publisher of the list.
“The is a premier subset,” added Collins, a U.S. Navy veteran. “We are the answer to the question: ‘What is military friendly?’"
In fact, Victory Media even trademarked the term “military friendly.” Owning the phrase is wise – and perhaps necessary – when numerous universities are stamping themselves “military friendly” in the chase for money from the freshly improved Post-9/11 G.I. Bill – about $9 billion this year to help some 600,000 veterans work toward degrees.
“Unfortunately, whenever government benefits are entered into any market, you get people that move in and try to be opportunistic,” Collins said. “So we want to make sure we are differentiated from anyone who’s new in this space and make sure our resources are world class.”
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Victory Media, which calls its list America’s most stringent and transparent inventory of schools catering to veterans, grades the universities on nine criteria, including “military support on campus,” “academic credibility” and the portion of military students enrolled.
Those criteria are assessed through a survey the company makes available to all of the 12,000 VA-approved colleges. This year, about half of those schools opted to complete and send back the free questionnaires, Collins said. And from that group of about 6,000, Victory Media used its assessment methodology to hone its list down to 15 percent of all the VA-approved institutions.
“We keep the threshold at 15 percent because we feel that’s enough schools to give people freedom of choice but also an elite tier,” Collins said. “So if you’re on our ship, you’ve been evaluated by us – and found worthy by a third-party entity,” he added. “If you’re not, I think that says something as well ... There also are bad actors and schools that (sell themselves as veteran-friendly but) return less than the desired return on investment.
"These 1,700 schools raised their hand and committed time and resources necessary for filling out survey. They are stepping forward and participating in our process because they want to be measured and differentiated from what I will call the noise."
The publishers purposely opted not to rank the 1,700 colleges because, Collins said, picking a higher-ed school is an individual choice and should be based on an array of unique factors, such as: does the school offer night classes, weekend sessions, or in-state tuition breaks for veterans? (The online list can be sorted and then personalized).
Schools that made the list
Who made it for 2013? NBC News randomly checked four major college conferences to analyze which schools earned the “military friendly” designation.
In the Southeastern Conference, 13 schools are included – all but Vanderbilt University.
In the Pac-12 Conference, every member earned a spot, although at Stanford University, only that school’s Center for Professional Development is mentioned.
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In the Big Ten Conference, 11 universities are on the list; Northwestern University is not.
In the Ivy League, Columbia and Dartmouth made the cut; at Cornell, only the graduate school of management is mentioned; Brown, Harvard, Yale, Penn and Princeton didn’t rate inclusion.
But the publishers acknowledged that data-driven lists alone are somewhat soulless. Victory Media solicits personal reviews from veteran students and incorporates those intimate analyses into its report. (This year, there are about 3,000 student surveys for prospective students to read).
“They’re the exact subset of the student population that service members are looking for,” Collins said. “They give an actual boots-on-the-ground perspective. Nothing touches a personal recommendation.”
One veteran's experience
Air Force veteran Erik Thompson, 34, enrolled last year in the Tepper School of Business at Carnegie Mellon University in Pittsburgh after checking out all of the research done by Collins and his colleagues.
“When I decided to return to business school the very first thing I did was visit the G.I. Jobs Military Friendly School list,” said Thompson, who served in Iraq and three other countries. “One of the great things about the site is it allows you to not only access the list, but many schools have students who have created profiles where they talk about their experience as a veteran attending a particular MBA school.
“Having been out of the military for close to six years, the thing I miss the most is the camaraderie,” Thompson said. “Going through basic training, military-career training, deployments, and living all over the world level-sets all military members. No matter where you are from - or your race, religion, or sex - military members all have something in common. The Tepper School of Business does a tremendous job in replicating this camaraderie.”
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Sure the schools are "military friendly", but just see how you fit in with the culture saying that you are ex-military. I don't think Berkley would be quite as welcoming. Ask your professor what they think of the military and see what happens. Try to use your military experience on your resume for on campus employment with many of these schools and you don't get credit for the experience or when you get interviewed your experience is threatening- either for the military's use of force or they think you might be coersive on the job.
Just saying.
Myself, I'd just as soon go to a military-indifferent school, one that caters to no one except the student who wants to learn.
Spoken like a true non-veteran. Thank you for your indifference and you're welcome for your freedom.
There you go, jumping to conclusions again.
tiredoftheranting,
Alright, the friggin' jingoism is getting out of friggin' control. I appreciate those that chose to join the military and put their life on the line for their country. But you know what I appreciate more? If you do it and STFU about it.
While you deserve our thanks and respect, you don't deserve a blow-job for life for your service. At the end of the day, you chose to do it. Please stop with the fantasy that everyone did it for purely altruistic reasons. Many do it because that's their calling; just like many do it because they had no other choices. Enough with the rah rah bull@!$%#.
I know I'm gonna catch a lot of @!$%# for my statements but I guarantee you that I'm not alone.
I agree with you...there should be some college credits for the military training and experience the Vets have been through. Most colleges ignore it. I was forced to take a physical education class (tennis) and pay for it, even though I had been through boot camp.
My best friend at work after serving in the Army got his engineering degree from U C Berkeley. I worked at Mare Island Naval Shipyard and know of a couple of people working there who went to U C Berkeley to get a graduate degree in Nuclear Engineering. One had a funny story. He said he was in the student union and a girl sitting next to him started talking to him. He said he told her he worked for the Navy and she said "What do you do?" He replied "My sole mission is to serve the fleet" to which she replied "I didn't know the Navy had male prostitutes." Berkeley is OK no matter what the rest of the country thinks and I'm from the Midwest. I know an old Conservative Republican once told me that he had a low opinion of Berkeley but then he lived in Connecticut half the year and Florida the other half of the year.
Funny, you get to practice the hell out of your freedom of speech but a veteran does and we have to get smoked by civilians for it? Nice double standard.
Not asking for a "blow-job for life" just a little equality when transitioning back into civilian life and wanting to use their GI Bill or attend a college where the atmosphere is heavily liberal and often anti-military. This causes many of us to look for alternatives or take offense to the military bashing. I had one professor ask how many Iraqi babies I stomped.....what kind of bull@!$%# is that? That wouldnt make you hostile?
You are not alone if you are part of this liberal intelligentsia that believes that all us knuckle dragging ex combat MOS window lickers have PTSD and want to takedown a mall or a theater. You know how sick of this I am every time I apply for a job or take a course like sociology. You try and wear this shoe and youll have a different perspective. I joined the Marines because I felt a calling, who else would want to go into a combat MOS with a unit that runs towards the muzzle flashes? You damn well better realize that everyone who does is briefed in excess about it before they sign up. There is no sugar coating.
Nice job making the dumbest post of the day! So how do we 'weed' these folks out? A point system? Being Arab is -20, Pakistani -25, white +10? How about giving people scores based on how often the pray? 5 times a day = -30 points; 3 times = -15; 0 times a day = +10? We could ask a set of yes or no questions to each college applicant like, 'Do you like Islam, Y or N' or 'do u support the palestinians over the israelis?' with yes being -5 and no +5. Is this how we do weed these hate mongers out earthycat777? If you reach a certain point threshold do you get a special pin to wear on your lapel that says 'certified patriot' and if you are at a certain level a lapel pin that say 'possible terrorist supporter.' I'd like to hear some of your methods of weeding out the Islamist hate mongers?
Twice I've worked for ex-military bosses and both times they ended up being fired because they just could not adjust to civilian life. The biggest problem was their arrogance, they seemed to believe because they were vets, they were inherently more qualified to lead and blamed any of their failures on others failure to do what they were told when the problem was as simple as them being idiots and not realizing it.
I especially like the soldiers who never actually saw any battles, those are the ones who seem to want to be considered heroes the most and man do they get down right nasty when people laugh at them.
Twice you were lucky to have a job.
You get to post your nonsense (btw do you have a better resume )
Not everyone does , so does that mean there any less of a person than you?
"Funny, you get to practice the hell out of your freedom of speech but a veteran does and we have to get smoked by civilians for it? Nice double standard."
Um, do you even know what "freedom of speech" means. People shooting down your arguments and calling you an idiot (I don't necessarily agree with them), "smoking you out" is NOT a violation of your free speech. You are still free to make whatever posts that you want. Your free speech isn't getting violated because someone challenged it.
JM-1992894
Well, isn't that nice of you: You appreciate those who joined the military, just shut up about it. REALLY??
Yeah, I get it. Let others protect your sorry A$$, then you tell them to shut up about it, while I'm SURE you are one of those people who won't shut the hell up about how we should be letting illegal aliens into our country and getting rid of our 2nd amendment rights.
I may be a liberal, but I'm a veteran, and I'm no pinko!
JM, everyone knows that as a whole, people who served their country are vastly superior to those who chose not to.
@ JM-1992894
No, you are not alone, everyone has an @!$%#, and those @!$%#s spew @!$%# just like you do.
A poorly written articleb as evidenced by reference to the Air Force veteran who "seved Iraq and three different countries." Actually he served IN Ireq....etc. I agree with tired of, Sawyer 's comment is spoken like a non-veteran. Guess he just couldn't find the time.
so what is the definition of "military friendly"?
The list is self picked by the schools that bother to do the survey and then the article never asks the question. Where does this Yahoo get off determining "academic credibility"?
This sounds like some one came up with a good Internet marketing plan and people are buying into it because there is nothing more creditable out there.
This guy may have good intentions, but the article is not a ringing endorsement.
Caveat Emptor!
Howdy -
you do realize that "academic credibility" can be determined by a little on-line research? Colleges and universities are regularly rated and ranked on academic rigor and performance.
Yahoo? Maybe. Maybe they use Google.
If they are accredited by one of the Regional Agencies, you can pretty much assure they are reputable academically.
Thank you Victory Media for doing something positive and valuable for our veterans. We need more of this.
Tired -
you have my thanks as well. My wife has one son who just finished his three years in the Army today (served in Afghanistan). She has another in the Marines and he will deploy to Afghanistan on 10/2. Don't think that everyone, or even most, are uncaring.
mpa - Thank you for your words of support and godspeed to your wife's boys. I realize that there are many more like you than like Sawyer. I just like to call them out when I see them.
Tired -
If you haven't gone to the Victory website, you should. I just did. They also offer the same sort of program to help vets find vet-friendly employers.
Best of luck to you.
And to those who worry that this is a scam - there is no charge to use their website!
Thank you MPA -- if anyone goes to the site they should click on the "Press Kit" on the bottom of the home page. It will outline the Advisory Bd of educators who helped determine the category as well as other background in FAQ's and about the methodology used. No cost to submit a school, no way to pay to get on the list and no way any third party has access to the student vets coming to the site unless the student requests information. It's an important tool for student vets who want to hear from other student vets (there are over 3,000 student veteran surveys that contributed to the overall list) about why they think a school is military friendly.
There are also schools that are not "military friendly" in the fact that they do not treat reservists the same as active duty military when it comes to allowing them to attend to military activities or in being called up.
My experience has been that if the school, or college, you want to attend gets the money from the government, they could care less about your military service! Most of the Veteran's Representatives at most colleges have never been in the military, let alone even know what your entitled to! I had to explain that my entitlements were different from what the non-veterans knew that were administering the programs! After pointing this out to them, they were astonished to find out that I was right, and they were wrong! Glad I graduated and moved on! The VA is the same way - not very many veterans working their either! [:-(]
Gary, almost all the admin. staff at my local VA hospital are Vet's. I don't know about the Doctors or Nurses though. The Head Surgeon of the spinal cord and TBI I know is a vet.
Gary:: I volunteer at a vet center (I'm 78 years old and still volunteering). I am the only one who is not a veteran. There is a staff of eleven who work there, plus a Service officer and a Benefits Counselor who are all veterans. Even the gal who does the cleaning is a veteran.
Maybe the Veterans' Representatives at most colleges have never been in the military, but that can't be said for those around here.
You should have gone to a good school or college.
The VA is inept. They hire foreign doctors that dislike American GI's. They botch many surgeries. They killed my best friend, a Viet Nam veteran. His VA bypass failed and came apart. He had 4 VA surgeries and the VA botched 3 of them, one fatally. Our veterans deserve better. My friend deserved better. The last straw came when the VA ordered him to fly from Las Vegas to San Diego for a 1 hour anger managemant class. His anger was from an outburst to an ignorant doctor that suggested the bullet in his back was not from a Vietnamese. Incredible, as his Army records show it was. When he received the letter from the VA, his blood pressure went sky high. His bypass came apart. He died.
Thanks VA for all you do.
This post 9/11 love affair with the military is disgusting. Paying people to illegally invade other countries and kill innocent men, women and children is immoral. Screw the military.
OVUgirl if you feel that way. Why Not leave ? Find a country you like better.
Nicely said RCG...
OVUgirl: Islamofacists flying airplanes into office buildings full of innocent civilians is even more immoral. The military did their job and reacted as ordered to the overseas threat (they ONLY go where the President sends them). Try saying what you posted as a woman in some radical Islamic country and see what happens. Despite what you've been told by your whiny, bleeding-heart, burned-out hippie professors, just remember it's the military personnel you hate that EARNED your Freedom of Speech for you! They are the teeth of the Constitution (not a lawyer, professor, or politician).
OVUgirl:: Well, just consider this. It was my FATHER, Mother, husband, son, daughter-in-law and grandson who served to save your sorry tailend.
I was in the military, did the tour, gladly used the gi bill, never expected praise, nor did I feel I was somehow "saving anyone's sorry rear end", nor did I protest others disagreeing. There have been a lot of innocent people killed, including women and children in other coutries. We need a change of human nature.
Vietnam, pushed forward by lies, killed 2 million Vietnamese, Iraq, based on lies, killed or maimed a hundred to hundreds of thousands, even the war in the 40's killed approximately 150 million or more, many innocents as "collateral". No life is collateral.
Lately instead of name, rank, serial number, there's been torture and rendition. Society is not advancing. We need a change; I appreciate people who see the murder of Crimes Against Peace, and are strongly opposed to the carnage of hatred, revenge and murder.
Too bad OVUgirl doesnt live in the middle east where even speaking the retarded, despicable, nonsense rhetoric that comes from that little warped brain of yours would win you the punishment of a lifetime just because you are a woman. I dont even want to classify you as a woman because that would imply that you are human and I recognize you to be less. I just thank God a thing like you is less than insignificant and basically speaks for the lesser of a merely non-existant minority. OVUgirl, you are a small, coward that does not deserve to step foot or even think about a great country like the U.S. You are a disgusting excuse and it is unfortunate that your douche bag of a dad did not pull out in time.
Thank you for your service.
Now , i believe we need a commercial break.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b24m6mCBn0E&feature=player_embedded
"Paying people to illegally invade other countries..."
What does that even mean. As opposed to legally invading them?
OVUgirl - Screw the military? You do understand that the military is only doing what the Government that YOU elected is telling it to don’t you? Many times it is the failure of politicians that start these things, not the military.
FYI – Most of the males in the military would rather be Screwing OVUgirl than killing anybody.
Wow, looks like OVUgirl has her panties in a bunch.
I have to agree with OVUgirl. Seeing the immoral military glorified on campus is disgusting. Hopefully we can change this country for the better, instead of just leaving it. To kill people for money you have to be really desperate for money, education or citizenship. It's sad.
The military is the only thing between you and those angry Muslim idiots who want to bring their own retarded brand of radical Islam to the U.S. You really think service members are in because of the 'awesome' paycheck? Benefits maybe, but not a good paycheck. Most of the guys I served with did it out of love for home and country. If things were left up to people like you and OVUwhore, this country would not be better, because there would be no country left! The America-haters of the world would roll over us, because people like you would be too weak and passive to fight back. Thank God military men (and women) have our backs, so we can sleep well and peacefully at night. If you hate the correctly glorified people who helped make this country so great, yes, please LEAVE. Pakistan or Iran would welcome people like you for sure; then you'll WISH the U.S. military would come to your aid!
Less than 1% of the U.S population serves in the military. Those that cry for a reduction in military have no clue.
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Slick, when I hear things like that, I'm reminded of Spider Robinson's observation on criticisms of "militarism" in the literary press: "Are there really people who sincerely believe that their way of life would survive the magical disappearance of their country's armed forces by as long as a month? Evidently so; I meet 'em all the time..."
I'm going to go with the assumption that you're intelligent, educated, and sincere - but simply haven't thought through all the implications of what you've espoused here today. (It'd be too easy, not to mention disrespectful, to simply dismiss you as a damned fool or a f*cking troll, not to mention that that's assuming a strawman...)
"Immoral military" is a question-begging epithet. By whose standards of morality? And, if you say, "By my standards," then aren't you jamming your morality down everybody else's throat the same way the asshats at Westboro Baptist are doing? If not, why not?
If by the standards of Mahatma Mohandas Ghandi, then I submit an interesting gedankenexperiment by history professor and science fiction writer Harry Turtledove entitled, "The Last Article" - wherein Ghandi's philosophy of nonviolence failed in the face of what was truly immorality as practised by Feldmarschall Model in India when the British lost the Battle of the Atlantic and were compelled to surrender. Suffice it that Ghandi found that nonviolent resistance, which depends upon shaming an opponent into doing the right thing, doesn't work on an opponent who is shameless... such as the National Socialist German Workers' Party, the Communist Party of the People's Republic of China, The Wa'Habbi sect of Sunni Islam, et cetera, ad infinitum. In other words, "...Except that, in this world, there are tigers..."
The Mahatma's philosophy works brilliantly amongst decent men of good will. It fails utterly when confronted with tigers wearing human faces...
On to your second strawman: way back when, I enlisted at base pay of $573.60 per month, plus barracks space and mess hall privileges, plus sick bay hurdles. Slick, abso-effing-lutely NOBODY that I knew was "killing for money" at those wages and benefits. From my communications with those currently commissioned or enlisted, things haven't improved a bit in the intervening thirty years.
Third, abso-fscking-lutely NONE of the vets I know are demanding glory for their service. Indeed, they reject it. (Quotable Quote from almost every other vet I've hung out with, "... I went out, and I did my job as best I could - the guys who didn't come home? THEY were the heroes.)
Victory Media simply points out those colleges and universities that do not engage in overt discrimination agains military veterans. Unlike your assertion in the most egregious of your strawmen, we Vets are not asking for a G-d - -Damned thing for our prior service that we didn't earn, beyond a fair chance. Now, the hosttility of Academia towards practicioners of the Profession of Arms iswell-documented (how many Berserkly faculty were lending material support to OccuTards is something I leave as an exercise for the student). The point of In light of this and the other two points I've made above is that, after a rational analysis on any of several axes, your comment may now be clearly rejected as so much sociopathic haterade. TL;DR version: YOU SUCK, GhandiFan - HardFAIL, kthx for playing, fyvm, bai-bai...
Some of these over educated benighted individuals may never see the light. There is a chance that they may feel a draft though .
GOD , Help us !
Uncle Sugar may have to lower his standards to accommodate them .
Hey Gandhi Jerk---Maybe you ought to take up residence with the Taliban, in a cave in Pakistan? Just a thought.
Shameful post Gandhi fan! Gandhi would NEVER have condemned military. He would have preferred peaceful means to and end, but never fall into a catagory of bigotry and hatred towards fellow man. Remember, Gandhi didn't take sides... And same to you Jarhead...it could be why some people dislike our vets...when they say things like that...that if we aren't in the military, or oppose a war, doesn't mean we are with 'an' enemy. You do what is necessary and I for one respect what you do, and want you to come home safe and have opportunities like everyone else. That doesn't mean I necessarily like war
JGA Phillip Anthony Biondo for President 2012 of the Fraternity Party! Kegs party at the White House! Free College like k-12. Free Healthcare. All safe drugs over the counter. Evolution, big bang, god of Milky Way. Fraternity party: I'm suing the supreme court Apes for freedom of Religion, I suffer from severe depression because holy medicines, primarily thc, psilocybin, mescaline, lsd, and dmt are illegal, in fact I committed suicide. I work for God so don't tell me it's not freedom of religion. Kill the DEA! They kill the music. Superhuman AI: 2045. Navy Nuclear Spaceships. Meditate. I'm a Sapien, what are you? Does Obama or Romney believe in global warming? We are like deer in the headlights.
We do understand we could be destroyed by a meteor or super volcano at any time.
Many of the so called colleges on that list are diploma mills that churn out worthless degrees while soaking the student with debt. Liberty University is one of the worst with the of the highest loan default rate in the country. In my state (CA) the Calgrants program just blacklisted almost 250 of those private schools including University of Phoenix. The best way to a degree is to start at a community college and don't trust private colleges. What they tell you is to "follow your dream" no matter what it costs you in debt. What they don't tell you is after you finish you will be lucky to find a job with that useless paper they give you and if you do get lucky and find one the average pay rate is 6,000 a year less than a guy who went to a public college....
Another thing they don't tell you is for that 4 year degree if you go to public college and take out loans you might pay 3 to 500 a month while the same degree in a private college is 9 to 1,500 a month loan payments....
I think having this list out there for veterans' benefit is a good thing; although I also think its important for veterans to pick the best school overall. Ie: if you get a chance to go to a top rate school in your field but indifferent to veterans versus a mediocre school that's top rate in their attitude towards veterans, it might be a good idea to go with the top rate school in the long run.
Also, if all the veterans decided to cluster around several schools because of their high ranks, it might further isolate the veterans in the other schools as the students there will become less friendly due to less exposure, making these rankings a self-fullfilling. In the end, I think its better in the long run for veterans to attend schools that are indifferent to them if the school is good overall, since that would likely improve how veterans are treated overall if civilians interacted more with them.
Sawyer-2103826, just like those who have served in our military, they have earned my respect. Speaking as a veteran, you have earned the BS you get.
One quick way too tell if a college is military friendly, do they have an ROTC dept.? If so most likely to be military friendly. The vast majority of my co-workers over the years have been veterans and learned many of their skills while serving. In my experience veterans generally can do and do get the job done. This is why employers are foolish not to give veterans hiring preference when filling openings. Go Army.
I agree with Sawyer (whom I strongly suspect IS a veteran) in this regard: veterans (or anybody) should select a university for what it has to teach them in the field they wish to study. People should not attend universities for the sole purpose of being in a cohort of people just like them (which is why Oral Roberts and its ilk are such a bad institutions on so many levels); but, rather to learn from others and their life experience. As others will learn from them. BTW, if whether or not one has served is a criteria to comment here...I am not a veteran, but my significant other is.
You freakin' leftys are twisted pervs! And I mean twisted SOBs!
Hey Romney! Many of these veterans are also in the 47% and depend on the government! You want to insult them too?
repent sinners and stop your devient and perverse lifstyles. seek Jesus and he will expell your gay demons
umm...excuse me, but what the f*ck has your little crusade speech got to do with this article?
Go take your meds moron. *rolling eyes*
Any fellow veterans who have 100% Post-9/11, when you're looking for a school, look for one that's part of the Yellow Ribbon program. It's a top-up program that many schools are part of, good schools at that, that can cover what the Post 9/11 might not.
For instance, Drexel University, one of the premier engineering schools in the country, will cover 100% of your tuition plus books if you have 100% of your Post-9/11. That is an absolutely amazing opportunity for a top notch education.
More schools and info here:
Looks like my link didn't post, but if you search Google for "Yellow Ribbon Program", it's the first link, on the GI Bill website.
Let's all please remember that snob schools like Harvard banned the ROTC's---even after America was attacked on 9/11--because of their petty little agenda to bring open homosexuality into the ranks. Now that abomination is allowed to exist, lets not forget the schools that abandoned this country in time of war.
I wonder if Mitt Romney would categorize our vets as the 47% that depend on government handouts?
The article is about our veterans and educational institutions that truly support them. I wonder if rude, obsessed, one-dimensional, hateful idiots like yourself will shut up about something that has nothing to do with our veterans.
Idiots like OVUgirl and Ghandi Fan should be dropped into Taliban Central where they can co-exist peacefully with their fellow human beings. I'm sure they will be welcomed with open arms.
And a very hearty thank you to our service men and women. It is your sacrifice that keeps the wolves from our door. A grateful nation appreciates your many sacrifices.
We need to get some of our veterans back to work after being retrained and help them finish training. Take at look at this veteran who needs help, go to indiegogo.com and look up, "Help An Air Force Veteran Finish College". Every little bit helps those who helped us. Help and pass this on to your friends as well!!!
Wait a minute, all you losers! You have just infringed on the trademark by saying "military friendly!" Oops, I didn't mean to say "military friendly!" Oops! er....I mean "military friend....oh, forget it! Doesn't this crap smack of exploitation? I mean, how does someone get to trademark such an innocuous everyday phrase? Exploitation! I was all for it until I found that they keep it to a minimum of 15% of the schools. That doesn't make sense because if you are "military friendly" (oops, there I said it again! ack!) and someone is compiling a list of "military friendly" schools, ALL OF THEM need to be on the list. Otherwise, it shows just what I think these folks are out for -- and that a trademark proves, in my opinion -- money! A year or two down the line, we will find that the big 10 are paying for the pleasure of being on the list....as long as the money follows it. I am sooooo disgusted by all the people who exploit the military and very disgusted that someone would begrudge an education to the very men and women who have just defended our freedom with their very lives!!!!