Oh, good God. Really?

I mean, guaaaawwwhhhaaattt????

Tombstone (Doc Holliday): "I'll be your huckleberry. That's just my game."

Oh good grief this is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.

Being that so many lame people who claim intelligence it seems that you forget that there are Democrats that also own guns and some of them may use this new gun range, and like all dumb politicians also drink, just how stupid can you all be not to recognize this as a social problem for all not just those who you bear a prejudice because of an asinine party line, or did you forget that everyone is equal under the law, and that includes 'Democrats' whom think they are superior in all ways,,,,,,,,NOT.

As a gun owner I think this is about as dumb as you can get to drink and use firearms of any kind, and that goes for all political partys especially both DemoRat and RePUGlians who seem to be the major idiots who forget that people as just as smart or in most cases smarter than you are because they have common sense, and not some promoted agenda that take everything away from you, all of you.

As a past gun dealer and hunter, I do not going to gun ranges or hunting with any one who drinks and plans to use firearms of any kind, and yes I am Pro gun, and Pro 2nd Amendment but will not tolerate stupidity by any gun owners ever.

So try to see this as a Social Problem and not as this one post stated, it is a state the is nothing but Republicans, ( I wonder if there might be some Democrats there/), how stupid and ill informed is that person and just think they get to vote, amazing!!!!

I understand Dick Cheney will cut the ribbon at the new facility!

And coming this fall, Atlanta's Fulton County Zoo debuts it's Hyena Petting Area, Crocodile Swim-Along, and Race With a Cheetah attractions.

Come early, and bring the kids!

"Governor’s Club customers who order alcoholic beverages at the bar will have their identification flagged and won't be allowed to return to the firing range, Brown told WSB-TV."

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! how many of them are drunk when they show up in the first place?!?

yes, thats not in my state, PLEASE vote this in! i mean i cant possibly see what could go wrong

come on! go on in, shoot up a bunch of stuff, get that manly destructive invinsible feeling going, then go get liquored up and drive on home! or better yet, to another bar where you can increase your buzz and these feelings of superior immortality! drive fast thrugh the trailor park on your way home please!!

The owners know the local politicians and have greased them properly ;-/

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I understand Dick Cheney will cut the ribbon at the new facility!

And coming this fall, Atlanta's Fulton County Zoo debuts it's Hyena Petting Area, Crocodile Swim-Along, and Race With a Cheetah attractions.

Come early, and bring the kids!"

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!

dont forget to stop in our non insulated 440 high voltage gift shop on the way out! dont wanna get home without something for gramma!

Alcohol and firearms....C'mon where's the tobacco? Just seems silly without....

I find it funny, alcohol and bullets... Deer hunters unite, it isn't fun till you're sheet-faced and brandishing a 30-06. I grew up in Upper Michigan and the only people who wound up shooting each other were the Down-Staters. We didn't even have problems from Wisconsin or Minnesota. I guess some people just can't hold their liquor.

Pete: they sell tobacco in the gift shop, right next to the TNT to go display.

Now the new bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives can do one stop shopping.

Heck, I remember driving past a tiny little town in Montana that had a sign for the local Post Office. They also sold guns and ammo, and there was a bar next door.. So you saw POST OFFICE, and below that we sell guns and ammo, and below that a neon BAR sign. Can't get any better than that.. go get drunk, buy a gun and ammo, then go postal, all without having to get in your car, because you shouldn't drink and drive.

If this increases the likelihood that righties will get drunk and shoot each other dead ...then i think this is a great idea ....

I believe in Northern Michigan, there's a bank branch that gives you a free gun when you open an account.

Boggles the mind.

I say that them have at it with the booze!

Guns + Booze = "natural selection" n. - The process in nature by which, according to Darwin's theory of evolution, only the organisms best adapted to their environment tend to survive and transmit their genetic characteristics in increasing numbers to succeeding generations while those less adapted tend to be eliminated.

I think every single Republican should immediately go to this range to show their support of guns... and have a drink or two, or twenty, while you are there. I will fully support this rally.

Oh... and if you could video tape it, that would be great. We need a new hilarious internet video.

I can see both sides. It could cause problems and it is definitely a money maker.

I see no problem with this..police officers drink galore on the job.. I jog in my area and its near police HQ off a highway..there is a jug handle between woods and when I jog by there..you can count on any day at least 20-30 small shot type bottles of booze of various kinds..the jug handle goes into the police HQ parking area only!

Since its a state road and they clean it up..guess nobody complains

I don't need the police for protection..I believe I'm a better shot (weapon) then most of them!

OOOOOOH YEAH....BOOZE AND FIREARMS the best combination since DRINKING AND DRIVING.

Booze and Firearms!! AND, I still can't buy a joint! Go figure.

Now all they need is Dynamite Flower Pots, M102 Howitzer picnic tables, and flame thrower barbecue pits!

Wow. I think this one takes the cake for the most ignorant posts on one article. First, did you not read where if you drink in the bar you can not go and shoot??? Can anyone of you idiots please tell me what the difference is between this clubs policy and me going shooting at a club, or private land, and stopping at a bar for a drink on the way home?? Can anyone tell me? No, all you idiots WANT to see is a bunch of drunk rednecks shooting guns all over and endangering public safety, right? Give me a break. Having a beer AFTER a day at the range is just plain American. Oh, wait, I'm sorry, I forgot, most of the posters here have no clue what being an American means. Wonder how many of you libs had to pull a trigger in the name of your country. Not many, that is why at every turn you crap on it.

I have to agree with @Ddotherightthing. In some ways this is better than if you just had a bar next to, or right near the gun range. At least this way the people running the gun range know if the person has been drinking and can keep them off the range. The fact that they are taking the approach of flagging the IDs of anyone who goes in the bar and keeping them from going into the shooting range after tells me that they are actually being very responsible. This actually provides for better safety than if the bar was next door and not affiliated with the range. I do not see people wanting to stop for a drink after shooting as being any different than stopping for a drink after going to the gym, playing in softball game, or just about any other leisure activity. There are plenty of private sporting clubs that include indoor and/or outdoor gun ranges, skeet shooting, etc. that also have bars. I do not see how this is any different. The fact that they are taking the common sense precaution of flagging the IDs of those who go into the bar is a smart move and will keep this from becoming a hazard by keeping people from shooting after they have been drinking. I doubt many of those private sporting clubs take a similar precaution.

Maybe NASCAR will allow it's drivers to start drinking and driving too. Makes about as much sense as drinking and shooting firearms.

Hey tweet maybe you had better do a little research on Nascar. It kinda has it's roots in moonshine.

"Maybe NASCAR will allow it's drivers to start drinking and driving too. Makes about as much sense as drinking and shooting firearms."

Here we go again. Hey, tweet, use your brain and eyes and try to forget about all the lib crab imbedded in your mind. THEY ARE NOT, ARE NOT, drinking and shooting. In fact the range is taking extra precautions to prevent that. Geeeeeeezz, it is going really hard to believe in some of the American public. And yeah, panhead is right, NASCAR was born from bootlegging. I flippin LOVE IT!!!! And I would have no problem with the winner of the race being given some homemade moonshine to celebrate, keeping true to their roots. When did we become such panzies.

Sarah-3043284

I believe in Northern Michigan, there's a bank branch that gives you a free gun when you open an account.

Boggles the mind.

A tiny amount of research turned up the following...

1) You walk into the bank and ask for "the account where you get the free gun."

2) You're shown a catalogue of available products. They're famous for their guns, but you can also choose a set of golf clubs, a grandfather clock, or other expensive bric-a-brac. You pick out an item.

3) The gun isn't actually "free"; you're buying a Certificate of Deposit and the bank is paying you all of the interest from the account in advance, in the form of fabulous prizes. The bank employee knows what each item costs and calculates how much money you'll have to desposit and how long you'll have to keep it in there to pay off the gun. For instance, I was told that to get the Mark 5 Stainless Weatherby, I'd have to deposit $5697 and keep it there for three years.

4) You fill out paperwork. Two sets, actually. One is the usual paperwork for opening a CD, the second is information for the required firearms background check.

5) You go home and wait. The bank processes your paperwork, both to make sure that no other bank has ever lost money doing business with you, and to make sure that they can legally sell you a firearm. I asked the rep how long the bank took to approve a customer and get him his gun, but she was uncomfortable with giving me an actual number.

"Well, are we talking hours? Days?" I asked.

"Oh, days, definitely." Later in the conversation, she described it as "Like, two weeks' worth of days."

6) When the bank is satisfied that it's safe to issue you a CD and a gun, they notify you. You have the option of picking up the weapon at a local gun dealer or right at the bank but in either case, the weapon has to be shipped there from a different location. No gun inventory is kept at the bank; the only firearms they have on hand are display models so you can fondle the merchandise before you make a selection.

Might be easier and cheaper to buy the gun.

Alcohol and firearms.

It makes sense to me. It worked like a charm in the old west.

Ddotherightthing, I have to say this libby agrees with your comment right up to the part of of liberals serving in the military. I am sure there are just as many conservatives who did not serve. I am sure there are many conservatives who want sensible gun control laws. I agree with you most of these comments are just downright stupid. The article did say the owner of the bar is also the owner of the shooting range and he built in safe-guards. Most gun owners and users are responsible and would wait until after their shooting to drink. I just hope they will be just as responsible to not drink and drive. I am also a supporter of the 2nd amendment. A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. A WELL REGULATED militia is not a single individual. A well regulated militia is trained, hence the need for shooting ranges. I also believe any law abiding person should have the perfect right to own hunting guns to provide meat for their family (and friends) and weed down over-population of critters that can do great harm to humans by not looking both ways before crossing roads or eating too much profit up on farms. They should also have the perfect right to own certain guns for personal protection, with the proper training on how to use and store them.

Red, I don't disagree about your military comment. What I was trying to express is the liberal view on firearms. Conservatives that didn't serve still most likely will not take an uneducated view on this article. When I see people post comments like the ones here, I cringe. Lets be real, I could write an article and just USE the words guns and booze and you would have idiots posting about rednecks shooting up the town, endangering mothers and kids etc etc. The truth is the club's policy is not going to cause anymore or any less danger. I just don't understand how some people just want to type garbage. I would love to have any of the anti gun posters put down $10k and if there is one alcohol related accident in 5 years they win $10k, if not they lose $10k. Not one of them would do it, and they know it.

The right to keep and bear arms is an INDIVIDUAL right-has nothing to do with membership in a militia-the militia is,as the framers intended-the armed citizens of this country.

Ddotherightthing, fully agreed now, but was just my perception of what you were saying of nearly half the population of this great nation.

larry, some of the framers didn't want a standing military, just a navy to protect our shores. Militias were to be made up with all able bodied men from the ages of 14 to 45. They would be trained in small groups to protect from both invasion from other countries AND from overreach of our own government. They would be combined to form a standing army at a moments notice, like the minute men. I actually agree with you though. And guess what, NO ONE wants to take your guns away unless you break the law using them or have broken other laws that would prove ones reasoning of right and wrong flawed and raise the chance one would use a firearm later endangering public safety. This is the reason for background checks. While background checking is still a flawed way of ensuring public safety, it is the only way we have right now. Please suggest a better way.

The Second Amendment was NEVER meant to apply to individuals. This gives state and local militias (i.e. military and law enforcement) the right to bear arms. NO ONE OUTSIDE OF MILITARY OR LAW ENFORCEMENT SHOULD EVER BE ALLOWED TO OWN A FIRE ARM! Only in a back-a$$ed, conservative, repug, southern state would they EVER give a gun club to serve alcohol.

Lol, No one here posting goes hunting or even owns a gun ,

EVERY ONE DRINKS AND SHOOTS, empty can's make great targets, sitting in a deer blind for hours REALY !

mguy478,

"I think every single Republican should immediately go to this range to show their support of guns... and have a drink or two, or twenty, while you are there."

Only an ignorant person would and did makie a statement like that! But, hey, he's obviously a democrat and my bet would be that he's also from Georgia.

Lunky, glad you said it. I didn't want to comment that when I go shooting (private property) I love to have my beer, period. In thirty years not one accident, not even close. Now of course, having some beers and being stumble drunk is two different things. And vince, everyone has the right to own guns. Everyone should own, and learn how to use a gun, preferably an assault rifle, so when things do go bad the people will have some say in their future.

Welcome to Romney's America, where you can take a shot before you take a shot!

Oh look, Bubba shot his brother Bubba off his barstool! Fun for the whole family!

Now all they need is a chapel next to the bar and shooting range to make it a Teabagger wet-dream.

I'm about as pro-gun as it gets, but mixing guns and alcohol is a BAD idea.

Theoverlord, the only teabags you really know are the ones touching your lips. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahha. Love it!!!!

Another stupid idea, defended by stupid people. Now, you can take your son or daughter to the bar-range. Absurd and it makes no difference what the computer idiots say on this thread. And, by the way, i am a 25+ year firearms instructor.

You don't find drunk people at a shooting range, they are much more responsible when it comes to firearms. You find drunk people with guns in downtown Chicago and other famous cities. I have gone to rifle ranges all my life, and have never seen a drunk shooting up the joint. This is all about gun control, by people who have never fired a gun and probably wouldn't know a barrel from a grip.

On the surface this sounds like a pretty dumb idea. However, dumb and illegal are two different things. Not everyone who owns a gun is a psychopath, nor is everyone who drinks, a drunk.

We have parking lots right next to bars. Some might say that is a dumb idea because it encourages an association between drinking and driving. I'm not sure that the analogy is not very different. Most people who drink at a bar or restaurant aren't drunks. We can make a case that even one drink causes some degree of "impairment", but we can also make a case that some people my be normally "impaired" to the same degree as someone who has had a couple drinks. Just getting old contributes to some degree of "impairment". Just being very tired causes a degree of "impairment".

Guns and alcohol don't mix, driving and alcohol don't mix, and we can come up with many such associations that don't mix. However, we have legal limits. These limits are designed to define some degree of dangerous impairment. All this is somewhat relative and different people are impacted differently. That said, I believe there are degrees that some things can mix quite safely without presenting a real danger. Now I will also add, that as a responsible gun owner and enthusiast, I don't mix booze and guns. However, I am reasonably certain that I could probably shoot more accurately after one beer, than after six cups of coffee. But I also don't see either situation as impairing my judgement. Nor would either be legally considered as such.

I will also add this point and don't know if it applies in Georgia or not. In some states, being in possession of a gun at the time of getting a dui, can result in getting your permit pulled. Also, evidence of alcohol abuse may be grounds to reject someone getting a permit. If the laws in Georgia are similar, this could potentially contribute to some gun people losing their rights if they are stupid.

So although this does on the surface sound like a dumb idea, it isn't all that much dumber than a whole lot of other dumb things done that are perfectly legal and not necessarily unsafe. We can have people who drink responsibly and don't pose any threat to the public, and we can have responsible gun owners who don't pose a threat to the public either. The problems start when people behave irresponsibly. If we make generalities that anyone who drinks alcohol or owns a gun is somehow more prone to behaving irresponsibly, we are making a huge leap which I do not believe can be statistically substantiated as being any different than those who don't fall in those categories. That said, I still think it sounds like a dumb idea, but I don't see it as something I would be all fired up about trying to prevent. If we outlawed dumb, over time we would all be cellmates.

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Yes this is all about politics. How very perceptive of you. By the way, your local gang bangers (I'm taking a leap here and guessing you don't live in farm country) surely don't mix alcohol or drugs with their gun play.

Wow, what logic you have. So because gang bangers mix alcohol drugs and guns that makes it ok to do the same for everyone else? So because there are rapists, should we had a rape center to the club too?

@Mike227: I trust the police with their guns. I don't trust you. The cops are the ones to protect you; anything else is a recipe for disaster. Your privately owned gun is twice as likely to harm or kill you or your loved ones as save your lives. It's safer to be without the gun, because knowing that you have a gun will draw criminals toward you like a plague. Your gun is the most valuable thing they could take from you. Think about that.

Well then I know you won't agree with Ohio law that says a CCW holder can carry in a bar...as long as they don't drink!? Not sure what our law makers were thinking!

Just not a good mix, no matter how you look at it. Everyone knows when you drink, and just a couple....really, it will affect your judgement. Then you get some clown next to you who drinks too much & gets squirrely and it's like a mix that might not end well with weapons involved. I just don't understand the idea that ANYONE would think this could be a good idea. I'm guessing it's the money talking. I don't even care if they aren't allowed back into the range, it's just not a good idea.

this is why we attack people like you....You stand up for no background checks, unlimited ammo,any type ammo ,any type gun,carry anywhere crazy carry rules ,and what you did not think that on e of your gun nut brethren would come up with something crazy as this ...and I will bet you that somewhere ,sometime at the gun ranges you go to that you have heard even crazier and more dangerous ideas from some of your gun nut buddies,,c'mon be honest

I am glad to hear a NRA member and gun owner talking sensibly. Although I have my own ideas regarding guns, I agree; guns and alcohol are not a good mix.

CNORTON

I'm the NRA..... and this is a BAD idea. This breaks one of the fundamental rules of gun safety,

How? Once you order a drink or beer you are no longer allowed to shoot. So where is the safety issue? I have guns in my home, should I not be allowed to drink there because of it? Should we ban shooting ranges from opening within so many yards of a bar or vice versa?

I agree with you there CNorton. While I don't like the idea of booze at a shooting range, I think that if there were proper controls as in, if you drink you don't get to shoot, then it could become almost like a sports type of place.

I know of country clubs that have shooting ranges, and they certainly serve liquor,,so.

B,B,B,B,But what if i just got drunk at the bar and im walking home and someone tries to rob me? do i forfeit my RIGHT to blow them away in self defense just because im drunk?!?!?

i have a right to protect myself even when i am $hithouse wasted drunk!!!! out of my cold drunk hands!

i blame obama for this! he's trying to say that drunk people dont deserve to defend themselves! he's saying they should just lay down and take it while the gang bangers have their way with me!

death to freedom! nobama!

You're not out in public backcountry....geeez...use some common sense.. if you have any...there's a HUGE difference between being in your own home and drinking w/ guns in your house (hopefully they're locked up and not just laying around)....and being out in a bar drinking AND shooting. It amazes me the ignorant and stupid arguments some people use for ignorant and stupid ideas.

believer: Seems like you have already found this bar and wasted no time getting blasted.

ahahaah! that should be the NAME of the bar! BLASTED!

Well, at least if they drink enough, their guns won't shoot.

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That's what she said.

tz-3189354

and being out in a bar drinking AND shooting.

Yeah I agree. But I think it was pretty clear that there would be no drinking AND shooting, just drinking OR shooting.

It amazes me the ignorant and stupid arguments some people use for ignorant and stupid ideas.

You had to make up a bunch of nonsense to make your point and you're calling me ignorant?

Oh and I'm not for or against this as it in no way impacts me; I think the people there can decide what's best for them without my or your input.

CNORTON, I am also not a member of the NRA (same as "down with big brother"), and I also agree with you. But why is the focus only on concealed carry and alcohol? Is open carry combined with alcohol not just as big a problem -- or do the Powers that Be, in their infinite stupidity, somehow think that because the gun is being carried openly the beer and whiskey crows is going to be more careful with how much they drink?

It says volumes about the intelligence of certain people that they automatically blame Obama, Democrats and/or liberals for everything that they happen to not like.... OMG! I can't drink booze while carrying a loaded firearm, it's "nobama's" fault! OMG! I have to pay taxes like everybody else, it's "nobama's" fault! OMG! A tornado just destroyed downtown Syracuse, it's "nobama's" fault! OMG! My pet hamster just died, it's "nobama's" fault! OMG! A squid just got eaten by some guy in China, it's "nobama's" fault!

It's like an arrogantly stuck-up prissy kid whining about how it's always somebody else's fault that they threw their favorite toy at the wall and it broke.

Backcountry164

Oh and I'm not for or against this as it in no way impacts me; I think the people there can decide what's best for them without my or your input.

If something like this were to be given the "ok" where I live, I would definitely be impacted by it -- as are those who will be going to that shooting range to shoot, not visit the bar. It is the presence of those who are going to that bar specifically so they can drink the booze AND use the shooting range that is the problem. I don't know about you, but I sure as hell do not want to be in the same public area as some redneck goober who has been drinking booze, whose preferred reaction to any slight (real or imagined) is to resort to drunken violence -- and is armed with a loaded gun.

What are they going to do to stop that very real problem? If they take the drinkers' guns away as they enter the bar, or take the gun away and not let the owner have until they come back sober -- or require that anyone who wants to drink booze leave the guns they want to shoot there and not bring any other gun into/onto the premises, they'll be guilty of infringing on the right to possess and bear arms. And I already know that will not be tolerated at all in that particular part of the U.S.A.

Backcountry164, you are already impacted by these kinds of things. You just don't want to admit it.

@Agnon Mema

How old are you? Not every "bar" is full of druken frat boys. How many people stumble out of a country club drunk as @!$%# after playing 9 rounds and stopping in the clubhouse for a beer afterwards? Do you always assume the worst of everyone? How the @!$%# do you live like that? Damn man, that is @!$%#ed up!

I've been to gun ranges that serve food and alcohol. Before they server you an adult beverage they ask "will you be doing any more shooting today sir?" It's not like they let someone get tanked up then cut them loose with a firearm.

It sounds to me like a lot of you folks are getting overly excited about something that isn't even an issue.

backcountry164,

After playing 9 rounds of golf nobody could stand up! Lemme see: 9 X 18 = 162 holes! If anyone could do that they DESERVE a drink or two or twenty.

Darwin never advocated this kind of stupidity.

I was

Thank may be true minky.... what you're not using your common sense about here is that it's not LEGAL for them to be doing that. This stupid ordinance passed by obviously bribed officials...makes it legal. Duh

What could possibly go WRONG?????

This idea is so stupid...that it made me think the world might be really coming to an end on Dec 21 2012.

CNorton it is a shame that your people do not think like you.

Who happens to be "your people?" I'm also a member of the NRA and like CNorton I think it's a really bad idea. Oh, and I've lived in the south for at least half of my life and I haven't found it to be a "funny place." We're Americans and patriots just like the rest of the country. I don't care who you are or where you live, alcohol and firearms just don't mix!

when times are good, people drink..... when times are bad, people drink more.

Hmm, upstairs in Lettermans secret room, eh.