
Killeen Police Department
Patrick Edward Myers
A 22-year-old Fort Hood, Texas, soldier was shot in the face and died after what prosecutors say was an attempt by a fellow soldier to cure the victim’s hiccups.
Patrick Edward Myers, of Spartansburg, S.C., was charged with manslaughter in the case and remains in the Bell County Jail on $1 million bond, according to a news release from the Killeen, Texas, police.
Police say three men were inside a Killeen residence Sunday night watching a football game and drinking when one of the men produced a handgun, handled it in an “unsafe manner,” and shot the victim in the face.
An arrest affidavit obtained by the Associated Press said Myers apparently pointed a gun at the victim’s head to scare him and stop the hiccups. Myers allegedly thought the gun had dummy rounds when it discharged.
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The victim was being taken by ambulance to an airfield for transport to a hospital when he died.
After a review by the Bell County District Attorney, Myers was charged with manslaughter.
A Fort Hood spokesman on Tuesday declined to release the name of the victim, saying relatives had to be notified.
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Just add alcohol.
I'm guessing it worked.
Another case of a completely stupid person, that doesn't have the slightest idea of gun safety. He thought he had dummy rounds? I guess he hadn't heard of Bruce Lee's son, and how blanks can kill you too.
There was only one "dummy" present at the house, and he was holding the gun, not chambered.
Dick Cheney's nephew.
At least the Air Force recruiter knew who to deny enlistment.
So you can shoot someone and say I thought it had blanks that is like people who kill their kids and say they drowned in the pool. They either get away with it or charged with a lighter crime.
This was the stupidist thing I ever heard of. Are we sure there isn't more to the story than this?
why are there idiots who always say crap like this, "are you sure there isnt more to the story than this?" they were drinking, he thought he would scare his friend to get rid of the hiccups so he pointed a gun at him, gun goes off, friend gets shot. did i mention they were drinking? end of story. what part of that cant your little brain figure out??
He's a trained soldier? What a disgrace!
This what happens when they lower the enlistment standards ! Not too many smart people want to enlist any more !? Maybe having to do 5 or 6 or even 7 tours in a war zone might just keep those with something upstairs looking for other jobs !
Have any of you gun owners ever purchased dummy rounds? I didn't think so.
What a lying sack of crap - Mr. Macho can go play with the rest of the Rambo's in prison.
Careful there. When it's put like that, people start saying 'That couldn't happen to me!' because, naturally, NONE of us are 'completely stupid'. You do not have to actually be stupid in order to do stupid things!
He may very well have had dummy rounds. The problem is, of course, that they were not what was in the magazine and/or in the chamber when he, for whatever the reason, pulled the trigger. He could have had a magazine full of 'snap caps', A-Zoom dummy cartridges, or whatever else he could get his hands on. That magazine full of dummy cartridges could have replaced a magazine loaded with live cartridges...which is really not all that important when there is a live cartridge in the chamber which has not been cleared. Anyone who would go so far as to point a gun at someone in jest and pull the trigger while not even at a place where you'd want to be to fire a gun (most folks really don't want squeeze a round or two off while at home, in their living room!) probably isn't real big on other basics of firearms handling, such as determining the status of the gun as soon as it's picked up.
Blanks are extremely dangerous. They're also much more rare than most people realize, especially for an automatic pistol which is now the prevalent handgun these days. Blanks (usually for revolvers, as they don't cycle a pistol) are smokey and extremely loud, which makes anyone who's ever fired one before think twice about discharging one indoors. They're quite unpleasant for everyone in the room, including the person with the gun! Unfortunately, dummies make no noise, all you get is the 'click' or 'snap' of the firing pin or hammer smacking down on the insert that takes the place of the primer. Their function is to check a repeating firearm for correct feeding and ejection of cartridges without the risks of 'jacking' live rounds through the action as well as to protect the gun during 'dry firing', which can be damaging to some firearms if done while the chamber is empty. If the guy had blanks, he might not have done this.
Well, yes, you can do it, but it's certainly not recommended!
Not exactly.
Firstly, in any kind of accidental death, an autopsy is extremely likely to follow. The reason for this is to determine the precise cause of death. Sure, a kid may have been recovered from the pool. But did they drown, or were they strangled or beaten and then thrown in the pool to make it look like a drowning? If a crime was committed, the authorities want to know about it and forensic science is how they can sometimes do that.
IF it is determined that a child drowned, for instance, then yes, a lesser crime such as endangerment or neglect of some sort is much more likely to be charged than murder as the intent to kill the child was not there. Doing something that somehow placed or forced the child into the pool could open a person up to a manslaughter charge. Thinking you can teach a child to swim by throwing them in the water and then not reacting fast enough when they sink to the bottom might be such an example.
In this case, unless it can be demonstrated that the soldier with what sounds like a privately owned handgun was trying to and had been planning to kill his friend with that gun, he was just doing something that he definitely knew better than to be doing, sober or not. That kind of gross negligence would be a manslaughter charge or maybe even a second degree murder charge depending on how the local prosecutor feels about it.
Practically all the teenagers and young adults who do really stupid things in automobiles that get themselves and their friends killed at night and on the weekends have taken drivers' ed and then passed an examination to obtain a license to operate a motor vehicle. Having been trained, passing examinations and tests, and even being licensed or certified to do something is no guarantee that a person will actually follow their training...or any of the rules they've demonstrated that they know.
An astonishing number of people have been killed by 'unloaded' firearms through the years!
Jesus! He "thought" it had dummy bullets?? THOUGHT?? What a needless death, I cannot believe the number of "oopsies" that occur every year throughout America that result in deaths. From 5 year-olds taking guns to school, to Trayvon, to drunken mishaps like this. Oooops!
*Defend the right to bare arms in 3-2-1......(as if ANY one is actually even trying to take them away).
Sure, I'll take you up on that!
My arms are bare right now! It was a great day for late September in these parts and it actually started to get uncomfortably warm while I was doing carpentry work outdoors late this afternoon.
And, no, no one had better be trying to take them away from me. How am I supposed to get anything built without them??
But I may be keeping them covered up in a couple more weeks as autumn sets in...
Tigger, you can come up with any type of excuse or reason why this unbelievably stupid act occurred. The fact that stands out is he was drinking. Was he drunk? Probably... there's a slight chance he may have been sober. But I doubt that. Chances are he was a drunken idiot, with a gun, and tried to cure his buddy's hiccups. Well, I guess he forgot the chamber may have been loaded.
I have a set for each caliber, dummy rounds are normally called snap caps. Used to dry fire your firearm without damage. Big difference between dummy/snap caps and blanks.
Glad I quit drinking in '86. No good comes from alcohol use.
That sucks.
South Carolina...'nuff said
Cured his hiccups
Stupid is as stupid does they say. Really stupid...............
First, get my name right.
Since you're not capable of doing that much, I wouldn't normally dignify your post with any attention whatsoever, but you need to be called out on just one thing:
I am not offering any excuses, I am offering things to consider and lessons to be learned. Not that you are likely to be the type to think things through or to learn lessons of any kind, of course.
Speaking of making excuses, that sounds exactly like what you're doing here. No?
And what are the chances that it takes one to know one?
I'm NOT kidding.
Hey, you guys are all focusing on the negatives. The good news - at least his friend isn't hiccuping anymore! He's been cured!!!
I know things are probably different here in Germany for us, but what in the world was that man doing with a gun. Here in Germany if we have a personal gun it has to remain locked up in the weapons room.
thekhankubla you are not funny
Wow, and to think they just allowed a Shooting range to serve Alcohol, it's not bad enough people in bars have to leave their weapon home do to the danger of having a fire arem drunk, so now they make the shooting range a bar, go figure.
He "thought" it had dummy rounds in it.
My father used to say; "You know what happens when you "thought"?!
You thought you had to fart, and you @!$%# yourself.
Never ever thought anything. You need to "know"...........not thought. What a terrible shame man. I understand how there are so many people who think we should outlaw guns (which will never happen) but you need to know how to safely use them. Don't purchase a gun for your own safety if you don't know how to use one.....
Don't fire a gun at someone, even you you think their are blanks (dummy rounds), unless you intend of harming/killing them. It is a shame that people are this stupid.
It really isn't a shame to have the stupid. We have to exploit them and allow them to take their stupidity out on one another. (see; Middle East ) Good tactics by the better evolved will deliver us.
Waste of stupid according to Matty. Rare to see such deep thinking here. Not sarcasm.
you are a gem, are you just now finding out ppl are so stupid... LOL, prob not, but, it gets worse every day... maybe it is the water
STUPIDITY at its worse.
That is what disregard for firearm safety rule #1 will get you.
Is that don't have hiccups when your friend is drunk and has a gun?
No, but I bet that one gets added to the list now....
But it DID stop the hiccups --- just a little too permanently.
Exactly, as opposed to handling it in a drunken safe manner.
I hope the rest of our military is training our soldiers how to handle weapons a little bit better than this???? Fort Hood you have a problem!!
A bullet the new cure for hiccups!
Can't say anything about the second, trained and in the army! NRA! NOT the REAL ARMY
Don't attack the military training. That had nothing to do with it.
Blame the booze.
The booze can't help it because the shooter drank it. Blame the shooter.
re the military, I dunno, maybe they are partly to blame... but, like any job tho, there are those bottom dwellers who are simply simple minded, stoopid, dum_... yeeeee hawwwww
It would be funny if the corpse hiccuped one last time.
Nothing funny about anyone getting accidently shot in the face.
It would be ironic.. Irony is a little funny.
In lieu of flowers, send a check to the National Rife Association.
I just did, a three year membership for $85. Anything to help defeat Obama. You have the union bosses. We have the NRA. At least our dues are voluntary.
Perhaps you could go about curing your own hiccups?
Yeeowww! Great comeback wahoo2!!
Voluntary or mandatory does not matter. The party asking for money still gets the money. All organizations use scare tactics one way or another.
in lieu of flowers say no to you, no to hillbillies, yee haw you jughead
Don't mess with Texas
The hiccupper should get a minature Darwin Award for having a friend remove him from the gene pool.
Why did he say scare me by pointing a loaded gun at my head and pull the trigger, but make sure it has fake bullets in it!!
I think the shooter should do us a favor and shoot himself in the head for the sake of not spreading more stupidity.
Texas + Football = Danger
Just wow.
Guns and alcohol do not mix well.
Who brings a pistol to a buddies house to drink and watch football?
Plexico Burress would!
Some would say they don't mix at all, period. I can't say I'd argue with them about it, either.
hillbillies planning a circle jerk, yee haw
It worked but the side effects are pretty bad. Reminds me of when Obama said "it worked" about his economic plan.
I was waiting for some D-bag to make a reference to Obama and you win! Way to go! Glad we can have intelligent conversations on here that are relevant.
What does this story have to do with Obama? This is a very sad and I feel for the family of this person who was shot. Politics should be left for another issue not this one.
why were u waiting? so you can make a reference? why did you u even bother !
It never fails...ANYTHING can be blamed on Obama....what a complete fool you are...
Perhaps Dick Cheney's nephew should be left out the discussion also.
@ Allen... your right. Anything can be , because he's screwed up everything he's touched.
Well...Dick did shoot his friend in the face, the connection to this story is obvious. There is zero connection between this story and Obama.
Being an independent at a time like is pretty tough. You got to listen to the stupid crap from both sides. This time around I'm not voting for anyone for president. While I don't think Obama is the Devil's offspring, I don't think he's done a good enough job to deserve a second chance. Romney? He just scares the he!! out of me.
Back to the story. No, alcohol and guns don't mix. Kind of like politics and common sense.
Of course none of you 'tards said anything about the Cheney post. hypocrites.
Alcohol and idiots do not mix well.
No idiots and guns don't mix well alcohol just adds gasoline to the fire!
bubba_You are right. Bleach B. is not only wrong, but just another troll. Don’t feed the trolls.
Ok, Both! What is a troll? Be nice.
Would it be so hard for gun manufacturer's to attach instruction's for the correct way in which to point a gun at friendly people in a correct friendly manner?
Step 1: Be sure barrel is free of all foreign objects by visual inspection of barrel with either right or left eye.
Step 2: While visually inspecting barrel pull trigger in a slow steady manner until you hear a slight click or nothing at all. If you hear a slight click move on to step 3.
Step 3: If after steps 1 and 2 you are reading step 3, yep you are right, gun is empty.
NOTE: When testing for dummy round's: Follow step 1 but in step 2 do not pull trigger while visually inspecting barrel. Instead once visual inspection has determined (to the best of knowledge) no foreign object present. Please direct barrel to the center of forehead and proceed with step 2. This will insure you don't put your eye out should a dummy round be ejected from the barrel.
You don't point a gun a friendly people, I hope you don't own, or reproduce! It's nothing to joke about!!!!
I swear, people are getting more stupid every day.
Pam,
The guy was a stupid idiot! He shot his friends face off and killed him. A gun isn't something you carry around on you while you are in your house drinking booze and watching football.
Guess he was just "standing his ground". After all, the guy hiccouped at him !
Too many stupid people here too....don't even need booze !
That's because they used to cull themselves. Now they are a protected species and we bend over backward to prevent them from hurting themselves.
Culling the stupid, I like that better than chlorine in the gene pool.
This kind of idiocy has been going on since the invention of firearms (It was a lot tougher when they used swords and bow and arrows). Back in my day there were so many of these events it wasn't news worthy, maybe people are actually getting smarter. It's sad is all I can add to this discussion.
Mr.young1: like anything said before that comment was even remotely intelligent.....idiot. Its amazing that if its a movie theater ect, its horrible, its boohoo booho boohoo. Let people think its a soldier, or soldiers and all you get is a bunch of smarta$$ comments...I was wrong...not idiot...IDIOTS.
its all about how you hangout with. white trash at its best
A million dollar bond for an accident? Give me a break. The guy will have nightmares about it for the rest of his life.
yup ! it worked ,the hiccups stopped !!!!
We've all done that !
How is possible we can have this stupid soldier category in our army. psychiatric examination should make all them .
A Gun? A Gun? I've lived 69 years on this Earth and I would NEVER, EVER point a gun at another person. Besides, I don't own a gun, I don't like guns and for the ignoramus who thinks people with guns will help keep Obama out of office--THIS YEAR, I'M A REPUBLICAN-VOTING DEMOCRAT--WITHOUT A GUN!!!
You are not a Republican!
I can smell a phony a mile away. You don't have to be a member of the NRA to vote Republican... However, you do need to care about the economy, and the next generation. You are at the end of your life expectancy and do not care about the next generation, or the FACT that the Obama administration is Socialist. All you care about is what will effect you, not what will my kids and grandchildren when they come. FYI: EVERY Country that has National Health Care in the world, rations health care! They ration the elderly more than any other generation because you use the most health care... Food for thought... They do this because they want to have a good Life Expectancy rating with the World Health Organization. You get unlimited health care now through Medicare, it will be rationed through Obamacare...
you are an idiot. it's scary that so much of the populace thinks everyone is a socialist. you sound like McCarthy era paranoids accusing everybody of being a commie. get a life freak.
That's his story and he's sticking to it. If you believe that, I have some Kansas beachfront property I can sell you for ONLY $500,000 per 1/4 acre. Yep, let's ban handguns and assault weapons. That way only the criminals will have them. If you think for a moment that criminals will turn in their weapons and all gather around and sing kumbya with the rest of us, you have to either be stupid or a lunatic.
I'll bet that cured the hiccups!
It's apparently 100% effective as a treatment, but it has some pretty bad side effects. This is one case where the cure is worse than the disease.
Just to drop a different sort of note here....There is a very real, tried and true way of curing hiccups. I have been helping people with even severe hiccups for over 20 years with a 98% success rate. For real. It is also true that I never use either firearms (which I believe in our right to own) or alcohol as a part of the cure. I also dont ask anyone with hiccups to eat or drink anything, nor do I frighten them or embarrass them. I have also never ever charged for my help. I do try to teach each person I help how to help others. Anyways, carry on, folks.