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A San Diego woman accused of strangling her infant son, and throwing him out of a third-story window to his death was “calm and unconcerned about the baby,” a police sergeant testified Tuesday.
Zewoinesh Badasso, 32, of North Park, faces a first-degree murder charge in the death of her 7-month-old son, identified in court records as David N.
Badasso's defense attorney said her client told her she was opening a third-story window while holding her baby on Sept. 7 when the boy fell to his death.
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But in an interview outside the courtroom, defense attorney Amy McDonald indicated she will not argue that Badasso is innocent, but will instead claim that Badasso suffered from ”post-partum psychosis”.
McDonald said witnesses told her that Badasso was a very loving mother who snapped and killed her child. She said Badasso might not have a memory of what actually happened that day.
A stranger called police after finding the baby on the ground below a unit inside Park View Apartments on 39th Street in North Park.
Deputy District Attorney Nicole Rooney said the medical examiner determined that David had been strangled and had found ligature marks on the boy's neck, and other injuries that showed he had been beaten.
McDonald said her client was in custody when told of David’s death and appeared to be shocked and saddened.
However, a police sergeant who was present inside the apartment when officers questioned Badasso said she appeared uncaring.
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She'll care when she gets life in prison.
Reduced sentence: she was certain that the infant would bounce back from the ordeal....
A shyster lawyer will get her off on insanity and they'll write a book together and make millions...after the TV movie...this is America...land of 'not my fault'
who gets the lead on the lifetime movie?
If she is found not liable due to insanity, she will still be institutionalized in a psych ward most likely. If she does "get off" in any way, it will be because a jury has decided so. Do you not care for juries? Would you rather a government employee (judge) make all the decisions in life and death? What alternative system do you suggest?
Sure, if she gets off due to insanity, she will be institutionalized for a while, but once she's suddenly "cured", she'll be set free. She may do only a few months in an institution. Many a murderer has gotten away with serving very little time because of an insanity plea. Sit in a hospital for a while, attend some group meetings, then suddenly have a "breakthrough" and be declared all better.
Strangle her, and throw her off the highest building. Give us taxpayers a break, we don't want to feed her and house her for the rest of her life. Rip with the angels little baby...
Yet another reason to secure the border to keep the illegals out.
Hello Charity people who want to bring more trash into the US: Stop it! We have enough illegals, and home grown creeps. We don't need any more people crossing our border!
Badasso, who's originally from Ethiopia, has been in the U.S. for about 12 years under a sponsorship by a Catholic Charity. She did not know the three men who also live in the Normal Heights apartment, because she was placed there to live. (She is living free through San Diego charities)
Poor baby got the Spartan death
WeStandUnited, can you site actual examples?
You don't get out of an institution until the doctors decide. People don't just walk out after attending group meetings, c'mon.
That says more about the people who will consume the books or lifetime movies, than it does about the lady who strangled and dropped her kid.
When the morality of society reaches a level where a nutjob can be made rich and famous, it's time to be concerned about society on a whole.
Actually, it's past that time. We're already doomed.
2 to chest 1 to the head,
Rip ill baby, God speed
Post-partum depression has to be one of the biggest pieces of bs that lawyers use to get women off of murders. Its disgusting that we allow it.
Maybe she meant to throw out the bath water...and never heard the warning associated with the saying?
Had that child been born with six pack abs..... this tragedy would never have happened.
William Wallace-1933236
I can't site exact examples, but "WeStandUnited" is right. All it takes is a doctor deeming her to have had an "episode" and that she is able to continue on, having gotten past it, to get her out of detention. I have read of numerous occasions where this has happened - especially when a child is involved. All you gotta do is bring up Post Partum Depression, and you've got it made. After the hormones have cleared out of the system, a couple of counseling sessions, and the woman is free to get pregnant and kill as many children as suit her.
That child's father SHOULD have taught him how phalanx works, then he would have been protected thigh to neck
So, it'sme,too and westandunited can't cite actual examples of women being released within *months* of killing their children, but still cling firmly to their ignorance and want us to just believe that what they say is accurate. They must work for the Romney campaign....
I hope the jury that will sentence her to death look uncaring as their verdict is read.
I hope that the judge when he passes sentence looks uncaring.
I hope that all the appeals fall on deaf and uncaring ears.
I hope the people that administer her lethal injection look uncaring at that moment too.
Let me make sure I understand this...the people who do crazy things aren't actually crazy? They are all just faking? Can't we at least consider the possibility that people who do horrific, crazy things are perhaps at least a little crazy? I'm not saying that they should be out walking the streets among us, but I don't think that a little compassion is completely out of order, either.
Compassion? .............................................THIS IS SPARTA!!!!!!!!!
I seriously got sick reading this. I understand Post Partum, not enough to hurt my child though and certainly not 7 months after childbirth.
This woman deserves death, forget lifetime in prison. Do not crowd the cells anymore for those on lifetime, if its lifetime - just off them! I pray justice in the form of death comes to her quickly and that she is NOT reunited with her baby. I will never understand grown people hurting little kids, ever.
RIP little baby!
@Molly
Some animal species have been known to eat their offspring. Where does that land on your moral compass? Should we kill all pigs right now because they are known to do this? Sure we'd be stuffing our faces for the first few months, but think of all the bacon we'd never again get to eat...
WeStandUnited, you are aware that people like Andrea Yates for example are still incarcerated in a facility (albeit low security) despite having been found not guilty by reason of insanity? Popular belief may say that these people get a free ride, reality is they don't. Of course the fact whether they truly are insane is up for debate...
This is why a portioun of the U.S. population needs to be sterilized.
Not everyone should breed.
But just try telling that to evangelicals and other orthodox/fundamentalists who hate the very idea of birth control.
Not excusing what she did at all, and not interested in debating how she should be punished, but all of these atrocious comments are a large reason these things happen. Women who truly suffer from PPD which is a form of PTSD are far too embarrassed to speak about feelings they may be having because they know people will say things like this to them. When we were preparing for our babies birth, I always told my wife if she ever had strange thoughts about hurting the baby or anything like that to talk to me about it, and I assured her I would not think she was crazy or want to keep her from the baby, but that we would get the appropriate help right away. Fortunately, my wife did not suffer from any PPD, but the publics general attitude about it is fueling the problem. There are probably hundreds of cases every year, it is not all just lunatic drug addicts. Most of these people are loving parents who's minds have betrayed them.
VoterinCA: Andrea Yates got out on appeal. However, to prove she was insane (a legal term) I hope this woman knows she already messed up. Less than 1% of people can pull it off anyway, postpartum or any excuse. She said she remembers opening the window with her baby in her hands, but then claims she has no recollection of what happened that afternoon? Hope the prosecutor has a brain. Hope they fry her!!!!!
Race and ethnicity have nothing to do with this. Please stop with the BS legal status comments. We know nothing about her status and it doesn't matter. People of all walks of life try this crap.
US...land of a sure thing. You want three squares and free medical? Come on over and give us a good sample of how NUTS you are. We'll plant you in a cozy little cell with other crazies, give you a few sedatives to level your thoughts, educate you, give you a few classes in anger management, then turn you into a movie star and insist you're special.
Casey Anthony screwed up. She was found not guilty. Now, she'll have to work for a living.
Sure some lawyer will do the insanity defense, don't they always? My feelings on that is that insanity is an issue that should be addressed at a sentencing but not in a trial. A trial should be to determine if she is guilty, not the reason for overlooking the guilt. The sanity or lack of it by the killer should be addressed when the judge is deciding punishment. This woman MURDERED a helpless child. If she is found to be insane at the time, then she should go to a mental health facility before she finishes her sentence in prison. Killing a baby for whatever reason is the most heinous crime there is, and if a parent does the killing it's worse. And the fact that she took the time to torture this poor baby before she slaughtered her should also be considered. Would anyone even discuss insanity if this had been done by a 220 pound thug? Not at all, everyone would be screaming for the death penalty.
May she get what she deserves. This is sick. Lots of sick and twisted people living among us.
I get that there exists the state of psychosis. BUT this woman clearly thought out a plan to cover herself after the initial killing. Made up the story that he fell from her arms while she was opening a window. So was her psychosis magically over by then?
Just another lame ass excuse. I get sick of that post partum bull@!$%#. They use that excuse for everything from murder to just laying out being a slut. It causes all of it.
If in fact it were post-partum depression, it would have shown up much earlier than when the baby is 7 months old. Of course the article says that there were other injuries showing that the baby had been beaten......but not going for the post-partum crap. The fact that she was calm after the fact and the baby was found by someone walking by.....if in fact she was opening the window and the baby fell out accidently then why did she not call for help? Just another mother wanting to get rid of her child.
DonnaC - Would the fact that she was so calm about the whole thing just prove even more that something was mentally amiss??? Even if she meant to do it because she is Satan on Earth, wouldn't she have tried to flee and not get caught??
There should in no way a movie be made about this innocent baby's life being taken in such a non careing way that not one penny to be made off of it from any of the family. She will get life in prison and if she is in the right one she will get the needle death her self. Besides you don't go to prison killing a baby a get away with it for if they find out about it in there they will take her out them selves and they will not ever know who did it. Being so calm about it as they said she did not care and was glad he was gone. Rest in peace little baby for you have your reward already. Why did she not give him up or people tell she was abusing him for she had to be doing it all the long. People don't want to get involved well this time may have saved a innocent baby by getting into some one's business. Yes Jason Philly you are ever so right too. She is not mental just did not want the baby and too stupid to take it and give it up.
My heart goes out to mothers who have postpartum depression. But gee...am I the only one who wonders why we have to have a license to own a dog and yet people can have children without any financial resources, knowledge or even common sense?
to all you sympathizers, why do you not have sympathy for the baby ? why would you have sympathy for the devil instead ? As for the blogger that mentioned animals eating their babies, THEY ARE ANIMALS, THEY KNOW NO BETTER !!!! how many animals have you seen be put in mental institutions for killing their babies ? it does not happen because it is not a logical thing to do ! geez, grow some brain cells !!!!
I do not believe these women are insane, THEY ARE EVIL !!! that goes for guys who murder their children as well.
Alrighty then Sandra, by your logic your god is evil for (per the biblical story) killing the first born's in Egypt. Maybe she just wanted to follow in the footsteps of the high and mighty role model itself..
Also, we ain't nuthin but mammals, so lets do it like they do on the discovery channel. You game? What's your number?
She can be found guilty but insane now which means she goes to an institution and once she is considered "sane" goes to prison. It isn't that easy to just run off after being found insane these days. No one wants people like this running around free. She has done about the worst thing we can think of when she murdered her own helpless little child.
This really makes me sick! I understand that there are mothers out there that suffer from post-partum psychosis--however; there should have been warning signs that woud indicate she was suffering from it. As a mother of 2, I know I would never hurt my children. I love them with all of my heart, and reading this saddens me.
The article doesn't mention a husband. Perhaps there was no one around to spot the warning signs, assuming there were any.
I agree with you. Its simple let someone beat the crap out of her,and throw her out of a 3 story window! Let's see how much she likes it!
Mothers are the third leading cause of death to children after accidents and disease, according to the FBI.
Men molest them, mothers kill them, but you never hear much about that because it's not PC. Mothers always love their kids, everybody knows that.
I'm not saying either is OK, but I am really tired as a male of getting blamed for all the violence against children.
You would never hurt your children, but you do not have PP psych (not saying she does for sure, let the experts determine).
It is sad. It breaks my heart because at that age, babies begin to smile a lot and are so affectionate. The responses to this event are sad too...especially when filled with such hate. That seems all the world knows now is how to hate and wish evil on others regardless. I pity the mother for doing that because no matter the judgement...she will pay a dear consequence for it. The experts are not always right either.
Dogrit...yes, males do get blamed for a lot, but I know of a mother who always threatened her 2 young daughters that she would kill them if they didn't do what she wanted. She used them and had reports filed on her for possibly molesting them herself. She used them to have her husband thrown into prison for molestation by threatening them. She wanted to get rid of him so he could not get custody of the daughter they had together. It's called the 21st century witch hunt. She had a 1st husband thrown into prison too for supposedly injuring her best girlfriend. See a pattern here?
Cindy,
and you havent told the authorities because...
Mr. Burns has a great point. it kind of sounds like you have information about a crime and are deciding not to talk.
Woah, leave Cindy alone. You have no idea that she didn't talk or try to help the situation. I'm glad you guys are so quick to jump all over people that you've never met.
I know a woman who set fire to the world. when she was done she moved Jupiter
ready2change
We do know she didnt try to help the situation from what she said
The birthing of throw away babies indicates a lessening of morality, the first step in the decline of humanity.
We already saw the 1s step in the decline of humanity when we started killing our un-born babies..
And the decline sped up when all those anti-abortion folks forgot to sign up to adopt. Do we really have a shortage of unwanted and abused children? Are we running low? Protest abortion and sign up to adopt. Simple solution.
A zygote is not a baby, babies are only truly human after viability and birth.
Steada, by that logic, humanity has been declining since the dawn of civilization - because that's pretty much how long abortions have existed.
And do you really not see that if abortion is ever made illegal again, we will start seeing MANY more incidents like this, and not as a result of post-partum psychosis. We already see mothers killing children that are an "inconvenience" - so what do you think will happen if we start forcing women to give birth to unwanted children, or children that would add financial and emotional stress to already overtaxed women? And that doesn't even take into account the number of women who will die due to botched abortions. I suppose that, like most "pro-life" people, that never occurs to you. Personally, given the choice between the loss of a POTENTIAL life, and the death of a LIVING child or woman, I'll go with the living people.
Steada, abortion has existed for eons of time before you were born. It's not new. If what you say is true, then humanity first started declining at the same time that it started.
non-par. My wife and I adopted. What's your excuse.
Sorry skyparrot but yes it is. If a woman doesn't want to get pregnant, she shouldn't open her legs. So many want babies and can't have them. Shame on you. You are obviously here but I guess your parents did not consider you "viable" until you popped out. As for this post you are still not "viable" and you are a disgrace to those who are!
AMEN Fred and Steada!
Devil's advocate says if this were a money making partial birth abortion, no one would be up in arms that a full grown baby was killed (by choice) while the mother gave birth. But because this mother decided to kill her baby 7 months later, it's now a bad thing? Doesn't this mother have every right (by choice) to kill her baby? I'm confused, where did we draw the line again?
LIFE IS LIFE NO MATTER IF THE BABY IS STILL IN THE WOMB OR 7 MONTHS OLD.
@SkyParrot
If babies are only "truly human" after viability and birth how does the murder of a pregnant woman result in two murder convictions?
It's simple...the baby is alive.
The idea of calling a baby a name like "a zygote" is nothing new. Militarys have been allowing soldiers to quietly get away with this practice since the dawn of war. It's called dehumanization and it always starts with the desire to see the dehumanized party deceased or out of sight.
In your example...the baby.
non-par & VickiC - My husband & I have adopted 2 abused & neglected African American kids from foster care and we are white Republicans. We had 4 of our own biological children, so we certainly did not "need" more; but could provide LOVE, stability and a quality environment which all children DESERVE.
Society declines when something that was considered morally wrong and reprehensible becomes more & more acceptable to over time increasing numbers of people. Now everything is okay, but God forbid we lose our rights, but in the process of being self-serving selfish people we annihilate the rights of the innocents, the ones who need our protection the most.
It is a very sad testament to our society to say in order to "fix" one problem - child abuse, that we should murder them before birth to prevent abuse. Seriously flawed logic, not to mention disgusting!
Helping People: REALLY???? If a woman doesn't want to get pregnant, she shouldn't open her legs??? Where do you live, under a rock??? I would love to hear your conversation with a RAPE VICTIM letting them know that they shouldn't have opened their legs...
And your Name (HelpingPeople) should be changed b/c comments like that definitely aren't helping anybody.
Shut the @!$%# up already about abortions, this kid was 7 months old. No longer in the realm of abortion.
Shut the @!$%# up already about abortions - Status-Unknown
No thank you.
To bad you don't run $#!t.
Having a baby doesn't make you a real parent ( i.e. nurturing, concerned, protective) any more than standing in a garage makes you a car.
Skyparrot...you have no clue. One day you are going to know the truth and grief will so fill you that you won't be able to handle it. Count on it.
It only took three posts to turn an article about murder into a forum for abortion. The abortion "debate" will not truly be a debate until there is agreement about when life begins. If you believe life begins at conception, then abortion is murder. If you believe that life begins at birth, then abortion is morally equivalent to clipping your toenails. End of story.
Good grief...I'm going to err on the side of caution. He...meaning "HE" did say that He knew us before the earth was even created and knitted us inside the womb. I choose to believe that. Don't bother to comment if you disagree because your heart would be hardened and it wouldn't make sense to you anyway. Once again...the hatred and cruel comments in here...wow.
There is no such thing as a birthing of a throw away baby. To say that is to put the blame on an innocent child. We have no idea of the potential of a person and its their environment that determines what they evolve to in life. Its horribly unfortunate that whatever events lead to this woman being in a situation where she had a child and was in an environment where no one was there (or had the ability/training) to see any signs of postpartum psychosis.
Who knows she could have been a crazy woman to begin with but the mind is a fragile thing and the way that births go nowadays, you have a baby, stay a night or two (if youre lucky ) at the hospital and then youre wheeled out with a tiny creature in your hand that you are now responsible for. Its a hard enough thing to deal with when youre a couple. What happens when youre on your own and have postpartum depression/ psychosis...it doesnt just go away. Unless you get help it only get worsts and the child is usually the casualty of the sickness
Cindy you don't believe that
Hmm...let's see. Maybe he or she doesn't want kids or has enough kids of their own already.
Status-Unknown,
Yeah, well I don't believe in the god of RANDOM MUTATION. That's JUNK science. Here's a prayer I compose for you:
We pray thee, oh god of "random mutation" for it has been over 100 years since Darwin spoke of you, please reveal to us the locations of the"transitional species" for this theory has been an embrassment to us. I beg thee "random mutation" show us your truth, give us the evidences! - So be it!
Angel of scientific understanding,
All species are transitional, gradual change over thousands of year. There is no "missing link," only points on a continuum. To say what you just said is to assume that at some point a mother gives birth to a different species.. Of course that doesn't make sense, and I forgive your lack of understanding.
Also, there is no "junk science." There is pseudo-science commonly in the form of blanket assertions which are untested, unverified assertions about how the world works, and then there is that little thing called science that tests hypothesis with evidence. Evolution falls into that latter category which has more evidence associated with it than the OJ Simpson trial. Sounds like you have a lot of research to do, it's out there you just have to be willing to find it.
Me-2395145:
Babies conceived from rape make up less than 0.01% of all pregnancies… that is a tired… old argument for pro-choice.
Wellrounded… GREAT POST!!! God Bless you and
lol nice prayer angel.
i personnaly think abortion is wrong, however i also believe it is not my place to judge others and it is the womens (and the father of the baby(even though we never get a say in it)) choice. That being said i think it should be a one time choice, if you choose to abort your child you have no right to have one later on in life. After the abortion procedure the tubes should be tied or whatever done to make sure that women never gets to murder again and get away with it.
i know 2 people in my life that have had abortions, one cause they were young and still in high school and did not have the means to carry or care for the child.... sad but somewhat understandable, the other was a "rich" couple i knew, they wanted a baby but she had problems, so after a year of fert. treatments they were blessed with twins.... however they only wanted one even though they had the means to support both children they decided to abort one.... sad and disgusting!
Under California Penal Code 187, second-degree murder is also willful but is not deliberate and premeditated. Second-degree murder is any murder that isn't defined as first-degree murder.7 Examples of second-degree murder include (but are not limited to):
Easy enough, theres your solution to this case!
OMG!!! Some posts on here are just way too high & mighty (total bullsh!t)!!! The psycho who said about a pregnant woman being murdered gets convicted of a double murder ... DO YOUR RESEARCH GENIUS!!! It varies by state! *** Helping People *** SHAME ON YOU! How dare you FORCE your beliefs onto others?!?! YOU are not right!
Helping (cough!) People?: " If a woman doesn't want to get pregnant, she shouldn't open her legs"
And if men don't want their children, they should keep it zipped (or use birth control). If they did, all the women in the world could open their legs WIDE--and no one would get pregnant.
Case closed.
And if men don't want their children, they should keep it zipped (or use birth control). If they did, all the women in the world could open their legs WIDE--and no one would get pregnant.
hopefully that isnt the case, the world is fishy enough, no need to make it smell that way too 0.0
@ Wild Redd
Is Nazi Germany your state, where standing up for the rights of those who are weak and defensless is considered psycho and high and mighty?
OMG and Shame on you! See how fun this is!
What!? This is totally nauseating! Throw her in prison for life....RIP Little Angel..
Life in prison is too good for a monster like this.
She loved her baby. Those ligature marks on his neck were from excessive hugging.
I will never understand how one can have a child and not love it.
Postpartum psychosis is a very real illness suffered by most women after child birth in varying degrees. Postpartum depression is a treatable medical illness characterized by feelings of sadness, indifference, exhaustion and anxiety following the birth of your baby. It affects one in every five women who have had a child, and can affect any woman, regardless of her age, race or economic background. It is not a character flaw or sign of personal weakness, and it does not mean that there is anything wrong with your ability to be a mother. The exact cause of postpartum depression by chemical changes that take place in your body during and after pregnancy may contribute to it. B50 complex (time released) will help most women if taken right after child birth. Available everywhere.
"a very real illness suffered by most women . . "
"It affects one in every five women ; ; ;"
So which is it?
"Postpartum psychosis is a very real illness suffered by most women after child birth in varying degrees." All women suffer from it after child birth. Take B50 complex before and after.
Very sad...too bad mental illness is still so taboo that people don't seek help.
Before a preventable tragedy occurs.
Logic physicists: "All women suffer from it after child birth"? Says who? I had no postpartum psychosis, in any degree, after the births of either of my kids. Although through their teenage years it was touch-and-go...
I don't doubt she had some chemicals in her body.
I have seen extensive study's and first hand knowledge that lack of B Vitamins in a women s diet before and after pregnancy is the main cause for Postpartum psychosis, depression. Simple usage of B50 complex will also aid in MUCH milder periods.
Its still no excuse for murder. We dont allow paedophiles to say that they have a mental disease, which they do, in order to get off of molestation charges (nor should we), so why do we allow such a bs excuse from murdering mothers?
Why is it that every time women do things like this, it's hormonal???
No one is excusing it! More education in the future may prevent it.
Fair enough Jo-An, I read your comment wrong.
"I don't doubt she had some chemicals in her body"
Yea its called Oestrogen
Since there is so much information to absorb about what to eat and drink during and after pregnancy, perhaps we should license the condition? Make sure that there is another hormonally balanced person with the pregnant women 24/7?
Casey Anthony is in San Diego now?
she is allowed to leave Florida now that probo is up
Maybe her cousin
Dani: Only if she has a cousin in Ethiopia.
You reading this Casey? I understand that you LOVE to cruise the net looking for more recognition and hoping you will not be forgotten. You reading this, 'Ho? People who kill their children are not worth the poop in a porta pottie. That includes you, Baby Killer.
If ever there was a case for court ordered sterilization, here it is. I don't give a flying crap if she may have suffered "post partum depression". The boy was 7 months old. That's more than enough time to get treatment. Were there no family or friends around to observe any signs that she was falling off the deep end? I just don't buy that it was depression. I have never heard of a case of post partum where the mom beats and strangles the child before flinging them out the window to their death. Andrea Yates systematically drowned her children; no less disgusting of an act, but at least she didn't beat them! This woman is definately crazy, and should never be allowed to bear another child, ever again.
and the article stated that she appeared to be a loving mother to witnesses
Badasso
Is this a joke?
That's the first thing I saw too. Bad ass.
And there are those who say there are no coincedences. . .
sterilize this idiot then return her to her country of origin along with any related kinfolk, anchor babies, pets, etc.
your profile pic is hilarious!
"oops...my bad"..."no problem...have more later" Ms. Bad-asso.
Why is it that the parent knows best when they insist that the kid is fed breast milk or organic vegetables but when the parent decides it is best that the kid is dead we throw them in jail?
You might be comparing apples and orange hand grenades?
Slimy, you may need a mental health assessment, dear.
You are a real sick person
WHAT! o.O...slimyone i had to look at ur comment a few times.Is that suposed to be a trick question? u can not take ur childs life becaues one decides ........ooh i dont feel like haveing a child no more ...wtf kind of crap is that. how do u compair feeding ur child breat milk to decideing u dont want them anymore ? im a mother of four and time get hared and i get fed up ..and need a few hours for me, BUT never wanted them hurt or gone for ever ! how do women decide they dont want there kids anymore after carring them for nine months , feeling them move , seeing them for the first time i dont get ur comment and i dont get this lady who killed her baby smdh!
Slimyone, your post makes no sense..
Janie, I can't even read your post so I have no way of knowing if it makes sense. I hope you don't home school.
Another troll.....
This is a horrible tragedy! Women should be given a mental exam before and after pregnancy, to be sure they are mentally able to care for a baby! Clearly, the father of this baby, along with other family members, didn't give a hoot about her mental state- they allowed her to stay with this baby ALONE.
Right! Clearly! Somehow a male has to be blamed! Sexist idiot.
I live in Illinois and before you can leave the hospital with your child you are given a questionaire to determine post partum behavior. You are also given one at all well baby exams for the first 3 or 4 months. If you receive assistance from WIC you are given one of the questionaires at each visit to redetermine benefits and check on the child's well being.
Really? LOL...will this be given BEFORE they get pregnant? After? And what will be done with the children born to these "mentally unfit" mothers?
Are your pro birth control?
Sheeeeeesh, talk about MORE government IN your bedroom!
Here's hoping you take your own advice Lisa.
Lisa - Most murderers and abusers do not tell other people of their plans, unfortunately! Why blame everyone but the psycho who killed her baby?
AllPeople, you're right that most murderers don't tell, but in case of real, actual PPD a pre-release questionairre would reveal mental instability. If nothing else, it could help a lot of families out. My sister in law had PPD, and my brother could simply not understand what had happened to his wife who had very much wanted their son and was so happy to be a mother. It took months of her crying all day and barely leaving the couch for her to get real help. A evaluation earlier on would have spared her and my brother a lot of sorrow. I can't believe she ever would have harmed her baby, but she was robotic in caring for him.
The correct word for the mother's "uncaring" and "unconcerned" is insouciant.
The correct punishment is sterilization and life in prison (but I'd prefer the death penalty).
If she is deemed insane b/c of post partum psychosis, the correct punishment is sterilization and life in prison.
Life in prison acceptable, why sterilize her in prison, pointless.
A symbolic point...telling her that she is not worthy of the gift of children.
Skyparrot
ever hear of male prison guards?
skyparrot, Why sterilization? Conjugal visits.
Life in prison. is that all give her the chair!
Romney/Ryan- 2012
PATHETIC !
Where do these people come from and how do they get here? She needs an interpreter to talk to the court. If she is here from another country is she already living on aid? We shouldn't spent a cent on her, just send her back where she came from and let them deal with her. This will be far less expensive in the long run.
I have to admit the name hit me first off. Ironically funny about the name, but the story itself is heart-rending. I suppose I'm one of the lucky ones - gave birth four times and was too busy to suffer from anything but fatigue. I missed out on all the "good" stuff I guess - no PMS, nada!!! Even during menopause I was not truly bothered by much other than power surges. Thank you Lord for your kindness in that respect. I don't know what should happen to this woman, doesn't matter what her race is - is she a single mom unequipped to cope? Or what were other factors. mitigating or otherwise, that contributed to this tragedy? We may never know the whole story, so let's just pray that she will receive appropriate punishment along with medical/psychiatric treatment.
Good call, Postpartum suggests that the crazy will go away when the hormones stabilize. Either way, I suspect there was some crazy there to begin with. Poor kid, how can someone do that?
Simple solution... strangle her, and fling her ass out the window... end of subject!
while using her intestines as a bungie cord. Ohhh grosss
WHAT ?????!!!!!
Who would do the strangling and throwing? That's my serious question to anyone who posts something related to an eye for an eye. Wouldn't the person doing that thing to the criminal be just as bad as the criminal? That's my ONLY problem with that solution. I am for life in prison or the death penalty... just not death by gruesome means since I wouldn't want the person implementing it, even if it was for punishment, walking the streets either.
Take any other kids she may have, hand them over to the state(they would get better care from the state then from her), then take "Zewoinesh Badasso" to the roof and toss her off on her head.
Then let her lay there lifeless, while people walking by eventually find her body. Just like she did to her baby.
This isn't Ethiopia lady, we don't kill our kids like farm animals when they misbehave. (not most rational people at least)
'Misbehave'? Where does the article say anything about misbehaving? How can a seven-month-old baby misbehave?
What does her (supposed) country of origin have to do with anything? I see stories pretty much every day about *ahem* 'good' Americans killing and torturing their children. Not to mention Americans shooting each other in theaters and at colleges and in workplaces, etc.
And if we're going to talk about countries of origin, where are YOUR ancestors from?
Sorry to bust your bubble but it happens in America all of the time.
She was probably in some kind of psychotic shock. I don't think a policeman would be able to determine what condition her mind was in at that point. Post partem depression is a very real condition and people around new mothers need to pay attention because there are always signs that things aren't right.
patcee,
post partum depression is the biggest excuse ever for murdering ones children. Women need to stop playing the victim in every single situation.
Patcee,
So, it's the people who are around this crazy person who are to blame for not picking up on the "signs"???? Maybe there were none. Only one person here to blame and that is the crazy bitch that killed her innocent child!
MrBurns, I'm wondering if you were female in a previous life you seem to know so much about hormones and giving birth.
BS!!!!!!!!!!! Ring her azz up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do you know what causes this kind of mentality? Do you know what triggers this kind of actrocity? No, you don't. You never will, because the only thing you can think of to do is jail or kill the perpetrator.
Life in an institution for the criminally insane. Let the pyschiatrists & psychologists have their way with her.
No merely physical suffering could be near as painful.
No problem! As long as YOU pay the bill satan.
NoOhBama,
When John Grisham wrote "The Chamber" it cost on average 9 times as much to execute someone as it did to keep him in jail for life.
You want to kill her, you pay.
Thats because of all the appeals Musician666. You know how much money it takes to execute people in other countries? Less than a couple grand.
Execute her? I will do it for free.
I say, throw her out the window after being beaten and strangled and see if she "bounces back" I don't want to have to pay for another "lifer" in jail!! And regarding the postpardum, it doesn't always show signs right away that you are having a problem, so the mental exam doesn't seem to be plausable.
Most likely she'll blame it on an 'abusive' boyfriend or husband. Same old routine. Claim a deadbeat ex didn't assist her paying the bills and ultimately the reason she beat, strangled and tossed the child out a window. Is it me or is this crime getting worst and worst? Just in 2 weeks time MSN has reported on the deaths of 5 kids at the hands of the mother and where was the father in all of this mess?
The poor baby. Who could injure an innocent helpless child who is completely dependant upon his mother? Pure evil.
Totally agree! People need to quit giving "mercy" to mothers who kill their babies/children. Some mothers do not have motherly instincts! Just because most of us mothers would die FOR our children, does not mean that all mothers are like that - obviously!
You know...I am Bi-Polar and suffered greatly with depression after my children were born. I know everyone is different, but no matter how sad/angry/detached from things I was...I only needed to pick up my babies and look at their sweet, innocent, beautiful faces...and I found comfort and peace. So I have such a hard time accepting that someone can be depressed enough to kill their own child...themselves, yes...others no way. I think they have to have something unstable and fundamentally wrong from the get go to do that.
I guess what I am saying is there must be more to those occurrences than just having had a baby...