Police continue to investigate a shooting in Minneapolis that left "several" dead and four injured. KARE's Jay Olstad reports.
Updated at 11:19 p.m. ET: Police say "several" people were killed and at least four others injured Thursday afternoon in a workplace shooting at a sign company in Minneapolis, KARE 11 reported.
Minneapolis Police Deputy Chief Kris Arneson told reporters that the alleged gunman died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound. Arneson could not confirm how many people were killed in the shooting, the station reported.
The alleged gunman was an employee at Accent Signage Systems Inc. who had been fired earlier in the day, Fox9 reported.
KARE 11 reported that police were called to the scene with reports of a shooting at around 4 p.m. A neighbor told the station that an employee of the company came to his home seeking refuge. The employee said he watched as his boss and fellow employees were shot, the station said.
Christine Hill, spokeswoman for Hennepin County Medical Center told KARE 11 the hospital is treating four people, three of which are in critical condition. Those in critical condition are all men.
Fox9 quoted an unidentified high-ranking law enforcement source as saying that the gunman returned to the office after being terminated earlier in the day. The source also told Fox9 that the gunman, whose body was found in the basement, may have been targeting specific employees.
After the shooting, dozens of squad cars and police vehicles surrounded the business. Traffic was stopped on a nearby bridge along Penn Avenue, where law enforcement officers had rifles drawn and pointed at a park below. People from the neighborhood milled around but deputies kept them back.

Amy Forliti / AP
Police investigate a shooting at Accent Signage Systems on the north side of Minneapolis Thursday, Sept. 27, 2012, that left at least two people dead and four others wounded.
Marques Jones, 18 of Minneapolis, said he was outside a building down the street having his picture taken when he and his photographer heard gunfire that sounded close.
"We heard about four to five gunshots," Jones said. "We were shocked at what happened and we just looked at each other. We all just took off running to our vehicles."
Accent Signage Systems' website says it "is a leader in the interior signage industry specializing in custom (Americans With Disabilties Act)-compliant interior signage, and serving major sign manufacturers worldwide.”
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The whole nation (the percent that actually works) is tense and afraid of losing their jobs....best to tread lightly around the 'working class'....especially since we pay all the taxes...right?
Are you trying to say that many of these people are sociopaths ready to kill on a moment's notice for no good reason? I can only imagine that you're dumber than you look.
It used to be that the person who is your boss, was at one time someone who worked shoulder to shoulder with you. My old employer made a point of it to start hiring college people with all the diplomas, but none of the work experience and camaraderie. These new managers felt they needed to show their worth by being hard asses, constantly kissing up to the upper brass, it created a huge gap between workers and management. Seems it's not working out as planned.
It has nothing to do with nothing but that there diversity thing..
Hey tetrapoda,how do you know it wasn't a good reason they didnt say why he did it,but i would bet my life he didnt go in there not knowing who he was going to shoot,for no reason.He is just one person that the big bosses just pushed a little to far with someone with a short fuse.Not saying its right but im sure he had a reason.
Allen, so they are afraid to join what is growing because the Republicans think its more important to make OBAMA a one term President, if people don't care about others and how losing their job may affect them just look around this seems to be almost a daily occurrence. We can all thank that Republican base for the mess our country is in and come November they should be handed their hats.
Wrong. Minnesota has a relatively low unemployment rate. It's in a region where jobs are plentiful. Nebraska, Iowa, the Dakotas, etc. all have plenty of jobs so this cannot be used as an excuse.
Condolences to the family and friends of those tragically lost.
Our thoughts and prayers are with you.
And yes this is another win, for the NRA and gun nuts everywhere. USA, USA, USA.
Sam627556 Put down the kool-aid and get some facts. Deny this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM
There was a time when I would use this as an opportunity to call out the gun nuts. But it's happening all too often these days and something needs to be done. We've not restricted guns for years now. In fact, if anything we've lessened restrictions. So where to from here? Should we just arm everyone with AKs, ARs and HPKs and have at it?
That depends on where you live as well, But i wonder how kill the clean was.
John in Battle Creek....Stick your anti gun rhetoric up your stupid ass.
Sam (#1.5) stick your political crap in your ear. You nitwits who decide to make every thread political are getting pretty tiresome.
Sam;
You are one of the truly myopic, brainwashed Brahmin, aren't you. Your leftist hero's had their hands in the sub-prime pie as deeply as any Republican. It was your leftist hero's that relaxed lending standards so that anyone with a pack of fake income could get a loan on a house they couldn't possibly afford. Especially if the dope dealer in the family got busted.
It was your leftist hero's voted for the bail outs and failed stimulus packages. And it the same leftist douches calling for more of our money to waste on the same failed policies.
Politicians, my myopic friend, have but one thing in common, If they're mouth is moving, they ARE lying to you. If you think the pocket liner in chief and the rest of the political rabble inside the beltway gives a damn if you live or die, you are monumentally delusional. It's all about money and power to them. You're pitiful little life means absolutely NOTHING to any of them. You and all the rest of us working stiffs, are only a tax payer number to them, nothing more.
But, do continue to delude yourself. Do continue to think your great leftist poser cares. Do continue to believe all that is spoon fed you. YOU conspire with traitors, YOU further the downward spiral of this nation. And you will be one of the first casualties when it all comes crashing down around you and your leftist kin, because when the chips are down all those so called civilized people, will be killing each other in the streets for a can of pork and beans. I wish you luck, you'll need it. It will be the hungry game on a grand scale.
Hey Sam you are a Dumbass!
If you think for one minute that if the tables were turned the Democrats wouldn't be trying to make the Republican a one term President.
I used to be hard core Republican but now i can only same i am Hardcore discusted with our country.
People fighting over which loser they want to run our country.
Obama sure as sh!t hasn't done anything to impress me.
Romney hasnt said anything that would make me go out and tell all my friends to vote for him either.
As for blaming a President for the actions of someone, you all are insane.
If it was anyone elses fault they will arrest them.
if you cant handle losing your job, Please do not try the whole Blaze of Glory thing.
Some of us just want to be normal.
@Shawn no Dem has ever said they wanted to make Bush a one term President and blocked every bill he has tried to pass.
Damn, one more reason to leave this state...
Why don't people ever do the right thing and instead of buying iPhones, get themselves an emergency fund in case they lose their jobs?
So sorry for the people harmed, their family, friends, co-workers and the family of the man who did this. We must always think of a better way...
“After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn't do it. I sure as hell wouldn't want to live in a society where the only people allowed guns are the police and the military.” William S. Burroughs...
When white people get fired, they take it real hard.
When people of color have to get a job, they take it real hard.
You're such a dumb-ass!
Damn, thats why I don't work.
I have a job, I've been working since I was 16 years old. So, what is your point?
banning firearms will do no good. Most of the guns used in crimes are not registered. Guns are one of the first items thieves look for when they break in. firearms are often sold without registration. They will always be out there espicially since so many people can buy off the internet. Better to look at the real problem. Why are people killing one another. even if a ban on guns were succesfull, people would still kill one another. they would just use a different kind of wepon.
At least I can outrun other weapons. Bullets, pretty hard to outrun.
he got fired , then he FIRED BACK !!! makes you think if it was the right move
Politicians are liars and if you believe them then your dumber than a bag of hammers.
The 2nd Amendment is here to stay get over it and if you cant maybe America is not for you.
Try China or Japan 8) I here Mexico has no guns 8p
Kinda' makes you wonder how anyone could "like being able to fire people". Some evidence suggests it doesn't always turn out like you planned. If someone is doing a lousy job for you, you have to think that they just might not have a lot of respect for you and might not take as the same rewarding experience that you do.
Oh I think Mexico has plenty of guns we've taken care of that... Guns are the #1 seller in the USA
Why would anybody target certain people unless they are snitches or smart ass's who like to cause trouble or harass another person? Did they have a good reason to fire him? I don't know about Minnesota but in Virginia there are no laws to protect your job. You can be fired at any time and they don't have to have a reason or give you one. There's nothing you can do about it unless you are a woman or black. Guess we'll never know since he didn't stick around to tell.
@penelope2-jobs may be plentiful in minnesota, but very few pay more than 10-12$ an hour. i know the frustration, being out of work for 8 months. you will slowly work your way into bankruptcy working at 12$ an hour. hopefully some real jobs will open up soon. i still have hope and have been looking every day. it's tough out there, but still not a reason to shoot people over. and certianly not a reason for more gun laws either. you gun grabbers want it so that to buy a table knife, you need a background check. it's not the weapon, it's the person behind the weapon.
Shooting people who are unarmed, and unable to defend themselves, is an example of COWARDICE, nothing less, nothing more... This shooter was a coward.
Nothing new about this in a 2012 workplace settings...want to be a bully,bi**h, act like a moron bigshot, or a stupid idiot..well better wear a bullet proof vest to work them..YA NEVER KNOW!!!
Lynn, that kind of defeatism is unworthy and unjustified.
It's hard to commit a multiple murder with a knife or hatchet--harder still to use one to kill oneself, first of all. Second, there wouldn't be all those gun stores if anyone could buy a handgun on the black market.
Gun control laws will work to reduce gun crime--especially killings and shootings by unbalanced people who may have no prior criminal record. However, the kinds of laws that really would work, like a total ban on handgun sales except for police and legitimate security personnel, also would be bad for business. And guns and their satellite industries like holster makers and magazine publishers are big business that does, it must be conceded, employ a lot of people though not necessarily in the USA.
The shooter was a coward. Ok then how many people would have died if he didn't have access to a gun.
Richard..there are 1001 ways to kill a person..minus the gun..there's still 1000 ways!
Relax Big Al, nobody is coming for your guns and Bible. Never were.
I find it chilling that there are always a number of comments in threads about workplace shootings which imply approval of taking the lives of those you believe have wronged you.
Allen you said the truth. The same kind of things are going on all over the world.
In Greece people aren't killing the innocent boss who had to lay them off they are taking their family and jumping off roofs with them, and/or Killing themselves.
Hey I have an idea, lets put more guns out there and take away regulations stopping anyone from owning a gun. Been working so far. Only mass killings due to discruntled people using guns, but hey, guns can't be the cause of the mass killings. I mean it's not the guns fault that it was specifically designed to kill and in large numbers no! So by all means throw some more guns on the fire and see what happens. Hell, give kids more access to them as well. I mean shouldn't we have the right to carry a gun anywhere? Shouldn't we have the right to shoot anyone who gets in our way. I mean stand your ground right? No bastard is taking my parking spot ever again at the mall. 45 will take care of that. Unwanted people nocking at your door to sell you something? Not at my door. 45 will take care of that. Lost your job? 45 will take care of that. God I hate stupid people.
Well, not for luck of trying on Obama part.
People who have morphed this into anything political are morons. 5 people are dead. More are in the hospital in critical condition. Shut up.
My condolences for all concerned.
Maybe he should have been fired before he went totally crazy! People get fired everywhere, every day. They don't go and shoot people. This tells me his mental health wasn't what it should have been. Also probably accounts for actions that led to his firing.
I have been lucky enough to have been able to be a housewife for the past 10 yrs. Due to the economy, the checkbook is getting thinner, and I probably will have to rejoin the workforce. When I left the workforce, this shooting thing was a rarity. At that point, maybe 2 or 3 had been in the news. It may not be a daily occurrence, like previously posted, but it's darn near weekly.
I now find the idea of working outside my property SCAREY!!!! I would like to get a job, and earn a living, NOT a death!
What's a good reason for killing someone? Most gun nuts will disagree with me, but, the only one I know of is if your life is in imminent danger.
I'm a gun nut and I totally agree with you sam adams to a point I think the YOU should include; with no questions asked, your family.
Tell that to Charles Manson and Jack the Ripper... I am sure they would love to demonstrate how that is possible...
mediamaniac,
Taking guns away from people or restricting laws would do absolutely nothing. People that are willing to pull a trigger on someone would easily do other harmful acts to hurt/kill somebody. I understand your point but no matter what there are crazy people out there that will find one way or another to kill somebody.
brenda1964,
there are so many people in this world that are armed and DO NOT shoot people...think about it. And if you took the right to bear arms away it would be a lot worse than it is now...you would leave the bad people with guns and the good people would not be able to protect themselves. Also, NOBODY shoots someone in a mall parking lot because someone took their spot, your irrational thinking is so ridiculous.
addy121,
Yes they do, in fact it happened about a year ago in Seattle. Just about 2 months ago we had a guy that was kicked out of a coffee shop called the Racer Cafe and came back a week later and when asked to leave he started shooting everyone. Then left the Cafe and went to a lady in a parked car and when she wouldnt give up the car, he shot her, yanked her dead body out of the car and drove over her as he left. So yea, happens all the time.
Your logic if flawed. If we take away all the guns then that would mean fewer people to lose it in anger and shoot others. Also that would mean the Police have more time to spend on the "Bad People" who have guns. But at least that would stop the rest of them from going nuts and going on a shooting spree.
@Rtypo
Never said they were and I don't believe in organized religion.
Vyor, your knowledge of history both modern and remote is pretty spotty.
Charles Manson was never at the Sharon Tate house. He sent his followers--four of them--to that house with orders to kill everyone in it apparently because someone who used to live there rejected one of his songs. One of the four, Charles "Tex" Watson, was armed with a gun but used it apparently only to menace and control the victims.
Jack the Ripper who has never been identified was a serial killer--presuming just one person did all the Whitechapel prostitute murders. He killed women one at a time so cannot be classed as a multiple murderer like this Minnesota gun nut.
Have they arrested that woman in New Orleans who shot her husband dead "because she thought he was a burglar"?
just some nut job.. this is not about gun rights he would have killed people there with or without a gun. This was premeditated murder he had time to think about it and even planned it all out. Nut jobs will be nuts and if someone is willing to kill it does not matter if you have guns restricted or not. They will just make bombs (Oklahoma city) or go on a stabbing spree (recently at a grocery store).
Guess his job was out-sourced to China. Or better yet they hired some muslim dude to take his place. This is truly a sad day/ WTF
I am not suprised that these things happen. People get pushed to the point of no return. I am sorry this happened but it can be prevented. Someone needs to see what is going on. Someone needs to care. We are flesh and blood.....We have limits.
@ mediamaniac just seems to me that if the government passes an nation wide concealed carry law and we did arm every non felon 18+/21+ yrs old ,that theese crazies who go to work and kill co-workers ,& shoot up campuses and theaters might reconsider before walking into some place where every adult with the ability to show responsibility is or could be carrying a concealed firearm. Whould you walk into a theater campus or busniess and open fire on innocent people if you knew the employees and patrons were more than likely armed.So yes maybe the awnser is to make it easier for people who should have guns to get and carry them, and harder for felons, and physcos to get them
Random, that would only make things worse--shots being thrown around in every direction, contagious shooting to the fourth power. Who would the police seek to disarm, with everyone shooting everywhere?
This man had no criminal record. He was apparently not always the "psycho" he had become by the day he decided to be a felon and a mass murderer. Take his gun(s) away? You know the NRA's position: "You'll have to kill me first!".
Midnightridr, Nicodemus1946, Atlantic-Paul, Rascalflattsgirl, you're each suspended for a day for violating #1 of the Code of Honor.
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george pauljohn, BW-1572743, extrapolation racism is really useless. Don't smear everyone in a race off an article. You're suspended for a day for violating #5 of the Code of Honor.
"The gunman who had fired earlier in the day"??? Were there shots earlier or is this an article the editor did not read? "The gunman who WAS fired earlier".......I hate to be picky and make my mistakes but it changes the whole story. I'll time it to see how long it takes for a correction.
The story does show bosses kill and not guns.
IXLR8: The article says: "an employee who HAD BEEN fired earlier in the day". So, go ahead and "be picky", and re-read the article. :=)
Old Dude, the article was corrected. The original post had the grammatical error.
More than 30 minutes on the time to correct. B shift tonight.
Getting slow in your old age Old Dude............Eh, speak up sonny.
OK, so I guess I am "getting slow in my old age" if I don't see every version of an article. Thanks Waynero.
Apology to IXLR8.
just another day in the good old USA.....God we look like dumb asses....oh wait a minute we are.
Speak for yourself and your own family, not everybody is like you.
IXLR8,
I had the same response, but after all, what can we really expect from the lamestream media, but poorly written articles, that are only intended to inflame the masses?
Over 100 whines a day here about MSN and NBC - yet they keep coming back - freedom of choice might not be as easily attained when your agendas get in the way.
Why are there so many people who complain about the "lame stream" media but continue to read it?
If there is any media out there that is not too lame stream for you please go read and comment on that media website instead.
It's one thing to inform people about how bad the media is and direct them to another media source, but you aren't doing that. You are just complaining.
Because WE LIKE TO BITCH!
Ken,
A story to inflame the masses? Really? Hate to tell you this, but a mass shooting is news. So the news media puts it out there. Shall we all just pretend this didn't happen? What is the matter with you?
Now I can totally accept what response. Man, that drives me crazy when Conservatives start going into some 5000 word essay about their right to be here. There had to be a first; someone who just says it like it is...WE LIKE TO BITCH!
get the guns now, this is out of control, but allow bailouts to corporations until the end of time.....
Your a morron 2008cheaters,people like you shouldn't have guns cause you would wind up shooting yourself,or someone innecent.But the normal person should carry guns.Plus you dont know the whole story,maybe that guy was just fed up with corprate or just tired of being screwed over by the bosses.
Amen to that brother.
W.T.F.101 That is spelled M O R O N, so if you are going to be stupid and call someone a moron who is obviously being SARCASTIC, at least learn to spell and perhaps next you will learn to differentiate.
If he was screwed by his boss ten times ten it does not justify murder. I would guess he was fired for insubordinate behavior.
WTF 101...you can't spell. And you can't understand what is going on. Sad.
Only 2 dead this time? The NRA must be sighing with relief. That's not even going to raise anyone's eyebrows these days.
Al Kyda, cool name man,makes about as much sense as that remark,why would the NRA be sighing with relief? I must have missed the part where they sent this guy to kill people
All of you piss your pants cry baby anti's ain't nothing but a bunch of conspiracy theorists.
Al Kyda according to President Obama 2 deaths doesn't even equal a bump in the road. To even rank as a bump in the road he would have had to kill 4 people or more - according to President Obama's standard.
Sarahsmom...Oh my god, you have bred another just like you, now I know we are doomed. Your bump in the road comment speaks of how low and repulsive you must be, at least our President has a standard, you madam, have none.
Voiceinmyhead ----- your president has a very low standard, even one murder of a diplomat does not equal a bump in the road so, STOP listening to those voices in your liberal leftist head and get back on your meds.
I don't care for either party. But surly you know the president was not referring to the deaths that way. Read the statement before you repeat such a distasteful lie. That is, unless you are a total liar like Romney and his campaigners.
NOOOOO FRANK!!!! Call Romney by his APPROPRIATE name, his name is NOW called "THE STENCH" according to his OWN running mate vice president Mr.Ryan!!!
well , i aint political .....sign of the times get fired , no jobs , just shoot
Again, there are jobs in Minn. and the entire upper midwest region. This had more to do with a personal vendetta or an already troubled person. Just because parts of the country have a high unemployment rate doesn't mean it's the entire country.
There are jobs....hiring is up. The fear that the right wing media puts out is a big problem. The worse they spin it...the more it hurts Obama. Meanwhile, fearful people are shooting people.
Yes, there are a lot of $8 an hour jobs here in MN... As long as you're on welfare and food stamps you'll be just fine. Take in from a Mpls native, good jobs are not plentiful here.
we do not have a gun problem. THere are not too many gunswe do not have a gun problem. THere are not too many guns we do not have a gun problem. THere are not too many guns we do not have a gun problem. THere are not too many guns.
We'll be fine soon as duh nra fixes all the greed/anger/ mental issues in the world
Well SAID!
I only wanted to post a response to you because my name is also a Simpson character. Carry on.
Yeah, carry on spewing your diahrea of the mouth if it makes you feel better. Just remember, ain't nothing you can do about it anyway.
This country needs more guns like Iran needs nukes. If guns & nukes don't kill people (ha ha ha), then I guess Iranians do, heh? Maybe they're just "disgruntled" Arabs.
A loaded gun with 5 bullets or 5 gallons of gasoline...
I'll take my chances with the nut holding a gun over the nut locking the doors and pouring gasoline any day !
We are the greatest thing since popcorn. The fact that we have prisons overflowing and some 24 thousand murders a year doesn't mean a thing.
Our freedoms to bear and brandish arms - hard at work!
no..your wrong. If it was....the boss or fellow employees would have had their firearm on them to defend themselves then that would be our freedom to bear arms hard at work!
Most business ban firearms on their property leaving these poor dead victims defenseless when crazy wackos decide to shoot.
Don't you dare blame the constitutional for stupid peoples inability to control their anger and take responsibility for their actions.
Self defence, much like self responsibility is a lost art.
Well, last count we're up to 5 dead... yep, did a lot of good eh? Yeah, let's arm everybody like the 1800's then after the bullets fly more people would be dead but at least they got the gunman! koo-koo! koo-koo!
who did the gunman fire upon earlier in the day? msn ...who does your proofreading?
"who did the gunman...." The who should be capitalized. Who does your proofreading?
grammar nazis at work.
hey rtsob wdygfy...really i didn't realize that.i'll keep writing in all small caps just to piss off people like you.must be another liberal overpaid union teacher.
This vet is medicated for your protection. LOL
Me too.
Me to, but before i got the meds i was fighting my inner deamons,now that i'm on the meds were on the same side,lol
Got to love it ! Only in America. Made in America and killed in America ( another demo ) killing of a ( REP). Then all we hear is gun control. If we turn the tables we are ( RACIST ) .
The eral tragedy here is that America is treating work place murders such as this, campus and classroom killings, 'ramdom' shootings, etc. as isolate incidents... rather than as a collective symptom of an exceptionally sick nation, with a blatant disregard for nature, life, spritual growth... and replacing it with self-centeredness, moral decay, the 'acceptance' of violence, an inefficient legal system, etc. We need to step back, as a nation, and ask ourselves WTF are we doing that fosters the emergence of this level of violence?
whokares: Well put. I think the fact that we have the biggest gang on the planet and send them everywhere to support corporate and big money interest is part of the problem. We have a gigantic fast growing prison system and about 24 thousand murders a year. Also, our corrupt financial system has a license to steal.
It is obvious that or country is more than a little sick and we better check ourselves are we will destroy our nation with greed and evil.
Just saying.............but...can we blame Bush ?
Bush fired him, .. is that one good enough ?
Ok, I am SO frustrated with the current attitude of this country and the lack of respect for others lives! I am NOT against guns, but the masses of people here in this country are arming themselves against OUR OWN people, not an invading outside force! THINK ABOUT THIS FOR A MINUTE! All of this fear, hate and lack of concern for others is out of CONTROL! People, think about what you are doing and WHY your are doing it! I see churches having, 'Bring your gun Sunday'. REALLY? SERIOUSLY? Just because we can carry, doesn't mean we always have the right to SHOOT! Go ahead and protect yourself, but don't be STUPID! We are living in an unsafe America and the blame is totally on our citizens...
stoppp the madness already. it keeps getting worse. please ..................
another reason why working remotely(home office) is safer.
Yah Hoosier7,until the mail man goes crazy,and desides to ring your door bell to hand you your mail and a hollow point bullet from a 9 mm.
Lets all hide in our homes because some one goes off, you have a better chance of dying crossing the street.
I agree. My company just had a round of layoffs. I work from home most of the week. You just never know. Just the thought of anyone in the US having guns is scary enough.
Well said weldem,or a better chance on choking on a chicken wing.Just carry a gun anyway,you might be in trouble for concealed but if you have a permit to have one its not as bad,plus you you would be alive if you got the drop on him first.I rather take my chancesw in court then in a pine box.
As the old saying goes, "Better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6.".
Just a thought, but when more than one person dies in a car crash is it a mass Crash?
These events seem common, and they're always tragic. At the same time, remember, violent crime is at about a 30 years low in the USA. These sad events make the news because they're actually rare--similar to how airplane crashes receive a lot of press, but auto wrecks are relegated to a list of "police reports." So let's keep it in perspective---the USA is a violent place compared to many other countries such as Canada and Japan, but we're not as violent as we once were and these shootings, although horrific, are actually anomalies.
Here we go again,it's the guns fault.I have been keeping a close eye on my guns.I haven't seen one of them get up and go anywhere by itself yet.
Keep your eye on them. Mine took me hostage for 2 days until I agreed to their demands; which I cannot divulge or they'll get me when I sleep.
LOL,now that you mention it,they do look a little suspect ,i think they may be up to something.But there are only 30 of them i might have a chance.
Thank you PWE1962. My sentiments exactly. Hell, guns cannot fire themselves.
lol @ and cunincal. That is real talk. Loved the sarcasm.
What a terrible argument. Heroine doesn't shoot itself up a needle either.
LOL PWE1962
pwe1962..Since evolution is supposedly a proven fact, that gun could grow legs and run off on a wild homicidal shooting spree.
bioparahti
"What a terrible argument. Heroine doesn't shoot itself up a needle either."
Actually,it's a good argument,and you are right-heroin does not "shoot itself up a needle"-the junkie made a choice-he or she chose to inject heroin into their body.
Ace...evolution IS a fact. There is nothing supposed about it, and it doesn't work anything like you've misconceived it. If you allowed yourself to become educated about it, you'd be embarrassed at your comment.
larry...junkies and homicidal maniacs will do what they do. Choice is not a factor. Just because pwe1962 chooses not to do ill with his gun doesn't mean other gun owners will do the same.
My question would be.. All head shots.. or some body shots? It makes a difference.. Was this ex employee bullied and harassed before being fired? This is what sets America apart.. treat an individual with disdain and bully your way around the management circle.. and .. guess what? Surprise! The great equalizer shows up and no cop around to protect your sorry mass of individualism. The Postal Service found out .. the hard way.. and many others will find out as well. Mind your manners, save a life. It might be your own.
exodus: It seems strange to have to remind people to treat others with dignity and respect, but I have seen alarmingly hostile, toxic work cultures; I consider myself lucky that I'm not obliged to work in such an environment.
Is anyone else wondering if people are going to start treating each other nicer at work, not stabbing each other in the back, giving fair reviews, promoting based on real merit instead of who plays golf with the manager?
Sometimes these people are known to be unstable and difficult to start with....but I would think that sometimes, a good person just got pushed too far.
People do really awful things to each other at work. Will we get nicer because we are scared?
I think i'd listen to Old Soul if I had ever treated someone anywhere like I've known to happen in my lifetime and just think now how bad it is. Someone may eventually lose it there i'm NOT kidding
AMEN OLD SOUL,
The rich keep getting richer,and using the poor to do it,and treating them like @!$%# in the process.If you keep kicking a dog while he is down,he is subject to bite your ass
People who enjoy @!$%#ing with others and make it their most favorite thing in life to do don't have sense enough to be skeered until it's too late and they have already gotten themselveves and other innocent people all @!$%#ed up because of it.
TV "reality shows", so many "war" shows, like Storage wars, Car wars, etc. seem to be scripted by the same entity and basic requirement seems to be nastiness, not showing that one can produce a good product, make a buck on the storage unit (we enjoy seeing what is in the unit, not who can shaft the other bidders). Oh well, meanness is the theme du jour. Don't even get me started on video games...
A wonderful song from the 1949 movie "South Pacific"
You've got to be taught to hate and fear, Yoy've got to be taught From year to year, It's got to be drummed In your dear little ear You've got to be carefully taught. You've got to be taught to be afraid Of people whose eyes are oddly made, and people whose skin is a diff'rent shade, You've got to be carefully taught. You've got to be taught before it's too late, Before you are six or seven or eight, to hate all the people your relatives hate, You've got to be carefully taught.....
It's sad that I feel desensitized to these type of incidents. More guns or fewer guns...I'm not sure what to think anymore.
If you go by the facts,there are more guns owned by private citizens now than ever before,and violent crime is at a 30-40 year low, so there are more guns and less crime-it's the media hyping up shootings that is the problem.
Notice that the media picks and chooses which shootings to report on-you don't hear or see reports on the large numbers of people shot and killed every week in Chicago-where most guns are not legal.
I would like to reveal these truths:
I'm not a pro-lifer.
The last time I voted was when Reagan got elected.
I don't own a gun.
I don't support the NRA.
Guns don't kill people...people kill people.
There are three types of people in this world; those who can count, and those who can't.
And, last but certainly not least;
I logged in just so I could create a cool name.
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I'll just say it for y'all...this post didn't have anything to do with the current topic
Are you folks that like to treat people like chit when you know very little truth about them paying attention? Pretty damn scary days to be a bully if you ask me. Of course I have no idea what happened here but so many people are losing it and we are reading about them daily in our newspapers. "C ca ca can I g g go go home n na now p pl pl please boss?"
I hear you DAN,i use to work for someone who cursed and talked down to everyone who worked for him.People need to understand these are people they are talking to,and they have families at home to take care of.Everybody should be treated with respect,you never know whats going on in the lives of the people you are talking down to.One more insult may just be one to many.
Bullied or not...no excuses...it is time to control guns more then we do.
Just what gun control would have stopped this?
You can't control guns,it's impossible,hell they can't control drugs and weapons in prison and they have them locked up
Apparently he didn't see the "gun free zone" signs, assuming they were there. I'm also sure his company had a "no weapon" policy. Looks like the rules and regulations to protect people are working like a charm.
Too bad the gutless coward didn't shot himself first then go after everyone else.
I hear it said so often, that guns don't kill, but people do. Does this mean we should get rid of people and keep guns?
There are more guns owned by private citizens now than at any other time in U.S. history,and violent crime is at a 30-40 year low.
So, with more guns,more people with concealed carry permits-there is less violent crime than there has been for decades.
The problem is not too many guns-it's too many morons with guns.
I just was fired from my job, not because I was doing a bad job, but because my boss didn't like me and was looking for an excuse to get rid of me. I have multiple sclerosis and in another week, I will be homeless. I worked really hard for this company for 3-1/2 years. While I would never go get a gun and shoot my boss, I can understand why someone would do that. I don't think that makes them a sociopath. People are struggling to get by. No one wants to be homeless. I'm terrified of it and I am afraid I won't survive. My boss didn't care at all, I could hear the smirk in her voice when she terminated me. She didn't like me because I had sent a couple of emails to a former employee about how poorly the company treated employees. I will not shoot this woman, but I wish all the bad things in the world for her, I hope she is injured severely and suffers. I hope her family dies in a terrible accident. I hope she suffers as much as she has made me suffer. My only consolation is what goes around, comes around. Ugly people like her deserve terrible things happening to her.
Nancy Smithy- While I understand everything you are feeling right now and agree with some of what you were saying I dont think you should wish anything that tragic on her. I will tell you to pray and tell the Lord about it and I promise you he willl handle her. You dont have to wish anything bad on her at all; all you have to do is tell the Lord about and he will turn it around for you. I am a living witness he will turn it around for you. When you belong to Him you dont have to do anything to your enemies, lay a hand nor say a word nor wish anything bad on them, because He gone handle them. Believe me, He gone handle them and work things out for your good. The Lord does provide and takes care of His children. I gurantee you that. Believe me you will not be homeless. I have never seen the righteous forsaken nor his seed begging bread.
You will be a prisoner of your resentment towards her until you let it go. Let her go as well as the job and you will find better things. Best wishes to you Nancy............
Soooo, instead of looking for another job, your reading US News and posting on the internet?
Ok, next time dont CC your boss when you send emails on the companies time. How ELSE could she know this?
I don't like you either Nancy. You seem like a woe is me type person. Nothing is your fault. Trust me, companies don't fire good people. (Unless downsizing.) If you were worth it, you'd still be there. You were a pain in the butt and not worth your salary.
Nancy,You qualify for housing assistance and Social Security Disability if you suffer from MS.Make those calls and stop being vindictive as it will only make you bitter.
MS is a serious illness and I am sorry you were fired. But there is a "but"...your boss is responsible for the morale of all the employees. Not a good idea to email other workers with your criticism. An employee is getting paid to do only one thing: work.
I hope you find a new job and learn from your experience.
"but I wish all the bad things in the world for her, I hope she is injured severely and suffers. I hope her family dies in a terrible accident." Now who is the ugly person that deserves what is coming to them? wishing her family dies in a terrible accident? What did they do to you?
I hope things get better for you... But the hate that you are displaying for this women and her family, makes you no better! Don't sink to her level. May God bless you...
If you sent these e-mails on company time from a company computer why would you be surprised that you were fired?
Another mental case who can't cope with it is what it is!! Damn...it's not the end of the world!!