Plenty of loving couples out there who will take her if you don't want her.

Where is the sperm donor? Maybe instead of our society providing abortions, we should provide vasectomies. How very sad.

Mandatory sterilization is most definitely called for in this circumstance. This person has no business even being around children, much less producing them. My guess as to why she didn't drop the child off at the PD, FD, or hospital - the baby was probably crying... annoying her... and she dumped it on the side of the road, like so much trash. Mandatory sterilization, most definitely...

I can only hope the courts show this piece of human excrement as much mercy as she showed to her own 3 week-old, totally defenseless infant. There are no words to describe the emotion I am feeling right now.

@clarkjoebob: My husband and I are one of those couples we have been trying to have a baby for the past 6 yrs. Stories like this just break my Heart.

The_X_box_360 - get over yourself. There is no mention of race whatsoever in the article, nor is there any mention that the authorities were even beginning to search for a kidnapper, whether white, black or purple. You and people like you are the reason that racism will never die.

Do people not know about safe haven laws?!?!

Meaker's aunt should hide her head in shame instead of acting as a family spokesperson saying:

"this has been a hellish 24 hours that our family has endured"

Excuse Me? What about what a 3 week old infant endured? And if Meaker has that much compassionate motherly instinct for a newborn, what does her 11 month old endure? Illinois Dept of Social Services should remove her other child immediately and terminating her parental rights completely on the infant. Unfortunately, Illinois law can allow her to be charged with as little as a Class A Misdemeanor up to a Class 3 Felony. If she has no other criminal record, her public defender can plea deal the case to a Misdemeanor and she would only be sentenced to 2 years in state prison, then be released and petition for parental rights to be restored. If she did not want the baby, she had many avenues to take the baby to any hospital, police station, or fire station under the Infant Protection Act and just walk away. Of all the women who try so desperately to have children and to those of us who know what a gift a child is in our lives, this story is sickening. The Meaker family should be kicking the sh?t out of her and hiding their heads in shame instead of publically speaking on the families behalf.

After she had the first baby she should have gone on the pill. Why bring another human being into the world when you don't want her? There are so many couples out there who cannot have children of their own who would give her a loving home. I hope she gives up both children because it can happen again and next time it won't be a happy ending for the baby.

Forced sterilization is illegal, and it has been done in many countries. But I agree there are people that should not be allowed to procreate, because they continue to have kids and can't care for them. I suppose you could make women take the pill; don't know how you could force contraception on men tho.

We need more education for kids these days regarding sex and its consequences. Abortion is already too late, it's the "not getting pregnant" in the first place that needs to be taught. Have sex + no form of birth control = pregnant. Simple as that! Condoms should be used throughout highschool. Way, way too many teenage pregnancies. The result is either an unfit, helpless mother, or an abused (or in this case thrown away) baby. EDUCATE THESE KIDS UNTIL THEY GET IT. ONE SEXED CLASS ONE TIME IS NOT ENOUGH. THEY SHOULD ALL BE FORCED TO SIT AND WATCH A FILM ABOUT CHILD LABOR IN ITS ENTIRETY, THE HASSLES OF RAISING A BABY, AND HOW A PREGNANCY OCCURS. IF THEY DON'T GET 100% ON THE TEST (WHICH THEY SHOULD HAVE), THEY GO THROUGH THE WHOLE THING AGAIN. THEN MAYBE, JUST MAYBE THERE WILL BE LESS TEENAGE UNWANTED PREGNANCIES. IF THEIR PARENTS ARE TOO DUMB TO ENFORCE RULES AND KNOW THEIR CHILDREN ARE PARTICIPATING IN SEXUAL ACTIVITIES, THE SCHOOLS HAVE GOT TO INTERVENE, I WOULD SAY NO LATER THAN 7TH GRADE.

Does anyone know if places with Safe Haven laws make it a requirement at hospitals to notify all mothers that the law exists? This is beyond sickening.. I wonder if she had no clue that she could just leave the baby with someone (not that it is an excuse, but perhaps this type of situation could be avoided via simple education).

Jerry1903677,If you are anti abortion rights tell me how many children have you adopted in your lifetime.I'm betting not a one.Abortion is a woman's choice not a man's.

Have journalist standards fallen? Is it too difficult to mention the state somewhere besides the third paragraph of the piece? The city is mentioned early on but unless you live in Ill. it's doubtful you know where this place is.

LindaAllen..... excuse me? You don't think that family was losing their minds over this child being gone? Where do you get off blaming them? Just because that sad excuse for a mother dumped her baby doesn't mean the whole family is that way.... the shame belongs to the girl alone.... Not her family.

I think the one who should be hiding her head in shame is you.... judgemental and holier than thou. Shame on you.

I think our young ones are not getting very good guidance these days. Who taught this young woman not to value the life of a child that came out of her body.

Unhappy, you are wrong. We should have abortions, because if she did have one, she would't have left the baby at the side of the road. And this is what happens when you let people breed out of control. Why would you leave a 3 week old on the side of the road. Anybody could have run over the baby, but I guess it is better to have a baby and then throw it away, then to not have the baby at all. I applaud anyone who decides not to have a child because they are not ready for a child. There are too many people who have kids and then hurt, molest or kill them, but I guess it's okay because that is what god intended right?

As for adoption, it is hard for folks to get a kid. It's hellish. Why do you think they go to other countries? The process is easier for them than in the US.

What is sad to me is when folks say only straight people should have children, when I feel a child needs to be in loving home, regardless of the sexual orientation of the parents, or that marital status of the parents. There are loving homes in all kinds, single parents, married straight or gay, grandparents, widows, widowers, divorcees, aunt/uncles, adopted parents. Oh and no this does not have anything to do with taking god out of government. People need to know for sure if they want to have children instead of having them and then not wanting them. And folks have problems with the NY school system handing out morning after pills.

This is truly sad and SHOCKING. Makes me wonder if humanity will ever make it to the 22nd century - let alone make it past 12/21/12!

As for your comment babysondinkydow - you MUST be a typical IGNORANT TEAPUBLICAN. When we had "God" in our schools and government - women were treated like sex objects/2nd CLASS CITIZENS and BLACKS were LYNCHED often for SPORT for SICKOS like the KKK!

I know that this is bad. I know that most of you are gasping at what she did. She is a nineteen year old. She is immature. And someone above had the harsh words of calling her a whore. Shame on all of you for passing judgement, and feeling all high and mighty. She needed help and it would seem no one was paying attention. So now both the mother and children suffer.

I noticed how the relatives now have one of the babies, but where were they before she attempted this awful action? Why weren't they helping her even if it were to take her to Social Services where she might have gotten some financial help. Where were they when she most likely was suffering post par-tum blues.

All of you should take a long look at whether or not you have reached out to help someone that is obviously in need of guidance, compassion and support. Shame on you for acting the judge and jury of this small family.

Sorry Joy, but there is absolutely NO excuse for this action, not age, not lack of support system, nothing... 19 years old is old enough to know you don't leave a 3 week old baby to die in a ditch.. hell, 4 years old is old enough to know that. She knew it was wrong.. why else would she file the false report?

George (#1.10) if I read you correctly the young lady should be applauded for attempting to murder her 3 week old child? Why? Why should she be allowed to procreate and possibly subject yet another innocent life to being murdered? It is entirely possible that she could be counselled and become a valuable member of society but are YOU willing to take that chance? Read the comments in this thread. Most of the responders feel as I do, that her actions were inexcusable. Anyone making excuses for her obviously has not suffered the pain of losing a child or grandchild through an avoidable act. Once you have been through that pain then you can call someone stupid.

You feel sorry for the poor infant, then suggest ABORTION?! Just because a child is in the womb does not mean mean he or she is exempt from pain and suffering from the abortion procedure. All of it is wrong, how can you even suggest that the child would have been better off murdered in the womb than put on the side of the road and rescued. It's sick!

That is so true. I was 14 when I got pregnant and I would never have done that. I also grew up in a very disfunctional family. I practically raised my 3 brothers until then. I did not do drugs or anything. I did marry the father and he was an alcoholic. I still took care of her and wound up having 2 more. I learned as I went along. I was a widow at 24 and I still did not abandon them. They are all grown now. I have 3 grands and 1 on the way. I also have 2 great grands and one on the way. The have never given up! We had it hard too but would never have considered what she did. Even if she couldn't remember the pill, she knew there was a very good chance that she would get pregnant. An IUD or a shot would at least help!!!!!!!! Get a brain and/or heart!!!!!!!! YOU WOULD HAVE TO LIVE IN A BOX TO NOT KNOW THAT THERE ARE BETTER SOLUTIONS TO THIS!!!!! With TV and Radio and Social Media. Oh and other people. DUH!!!!!

believe a far better remedy is not to blame the males for pregnancies and the maternal abuse committed but to, instead, esucate this society of overpromiscuous female whores to keep their legs closed. Or, stated another way, you cannot blame others for the actions of yourself.

Why shouldn't the biological father have to take responsibility and share the "blame"? This young woman didn't get pregnant by herself. And how do you know she was promiscuous? Women in monogamous relationships - married or otherwise - get pregnant all the time.

For that matter - why is it that if a woman gets pregnant outside of marriage, she's automatically promiscuous - but the same standard isn't used for MEN who go around indiscriminantly spreading their seed without any considertion for the consequences? Maybe we should "esucate" (I'm assuming you meant "educate") the promiscuous MEN in this country to keep it in their pants, or use condoms.

My bet is that family disapproval, perceived or real, would prevent her from taking advantage of the safe haven law. They might disapprove of her behavior and her giving birth to 2 babies within 1 year, but now that the babies are here, they'll say it is her responsibility to care for them. Very, very sad for those babies.

What we need is mandatory parenting classes in early years if high school. Maybe if teens get a real idea of the responsibilities, they'll wake up to reality and many children will be saved from a very sad existence.

DrRiverSong

Just who do you think you are to judge me? That family knew their daughter,niece, granddaughter, whatever she was, was a 19 year old with an 11 month old and a 3-week newborn. It just screams of RESPONSIBLE parenting and family values doesn't it? I am absolutely sure this family was horrified by the lie of the "missing" infant, but all the more reason to be extremely angry, disappointed, and outraged at their daughter, niece, granddaughter who lied to police and commited this horrific act. Had the infant not been heard crying, a dead baby would have been found in the field and that is exactly what the intent of this mother was.

I did not say the family was responsible in my post, nor did I indicate in anyway they knew anything about what Meaker did. Can you actually tell me that you would not be ashamed if it was your daughter or niece and be more concerned regarding the infant and the 11 month old than out making statements to the press as a family spokesperson regarding the case? Speak of judgemental and holier than thou....shame on you sir!!

Marmaduke, regardless of the safe haven laws existing or not, you mean to tell me that you don't know what to do if you or someone you know is pregnant. Whose fault is it. It is not the liberal left. By the way, I knew what to do if I got pregnant. I grew up in a conservative family, five sisters, one brother, three sisters were pregnant before marriage and guess who doesn't have kids because of it. Me. I am 42, no children because quite frankly they get on my nerves alot of the time. I am called everything in the book because I don't want to deal with children 24/7. Today I decided to play parent to two kids, great niece and nephew today. I just bought them back about an hour agao. I have never been pregnant, never had an abortion and don't plan on getting pregnant. I don't believe everyone should have children because it's not for everyone. One thing I have noticed is that this is a problem because it's happening to white girls. Black girls who have babies will normally keep the kids and family will help or the families make them deal with it (not saying white folks don't do it because I know they do too). But once the oow numbers got high for white folks it became an epidemic. Families have always helped their families unless they disowned them for this. I think part of the problem with oow is that it is no longer a shame, it is accepted and I have a problem with that.
As for your opinion of the left teaching that it is okay to kill unborn babies, it is called a fetus number one. If a woman choses not to go thru a pregnancy, that is her right. Why should they be forced. And there is a difference with an abortion in the early term vs. killing a kid after it's born = one is a fetus, and one is a baby = human. I bet if men got pregnant and had to deal with this, they would want the right not to carry to term. If you want to have a child, you go thru the procedure, carry the baby and see how you feel. If you are a man, you are full of it. People have a respect for life, and they also have something called chose.

To all the posters who say she should have used contraception: if the Republicans have there way women will no longer be permitted to do that!

where is the father?

Sterilize the skank. Yeah, I know, that's illegal. To Ram: Are you kidding? There's NO Excuse for this. Women in fourth world countries who don't even know when their next meal is coming from don't even do this. They hover over their babies and put them first.

Meaker's babies should be immediately removed and given to a carefully-screened infertile couple OUTSIDE of the family. Those babies should NOT be given to Meaker's mother! She'll screw up the next generation like she screwed up her daughter. Yep, that's right. A woman who does this to a baby obviously had a corrupt upbringing.

And if the conception was rape, that's no excuse. Nobody says you have to keep a baby. Ever hear of ADOPTION? Duh!

Okay people they won't tie her tubes, ACLU would have a calf. She intended to kill this baby. She could have driven back to where she left the baby and picked her up at anytime but, she didn't! Her intent was to commit murder. I hope they give her 35 years in jail. She won't be able to have babies by the time she gets out. An animal could have eaten that baby! It had to have been bitten by bugs and ants crawling on it. Birds could have peaked her eyes out for God sake! That woman knew what she did with that baby and thank God that couple found her. She had even taken her down an embankment near a culvert. If it had started raining the baby could have drowned. She is worse than disgusting. That poor baby should have been feed every 3 hours at that age, she had to be starving. Thankfully she could still cry loud enough for someone to hear her. She held, feed and cared for that child for 3 weeks then dropped her off like a piece of trash...she is a monster!

So, we have a 19 yo mother, Kendra Meaker, who leaves a 3 week old infant, Mia Graci Thompson, in a culvert for some God forsaken reason. She has an 11 month old child, probably by another father. Not to mention the “miscarriages” that are often associated with these cases.

This is the future of our society and nation.

There are so many dysfunctions here it’s impossible to comprehend. Our dysfunctional education system can be listed as a major cause of these tragedies. For as much as we spend on our criminal elementary and secondary education systems we still graduate illiterates. It’s a wonder she wasn’t aware of the risks associated with unprotected sex having 2 children within the same calendar year. This is quite an accomplishment even in today’s society. I can just assume she didn’t bother to attend the health class that teaches our kids how to put condoms on cucumbers, too bad. I’m sure she didn’t graduate in the upper rank of her class.

The moral and social consequences are just too overwhelming to even try and discuss here. Suffice it to say our social, moral and economic decay is obvious. I won’t even expand on our spiritual collapse for fear of reprisal from the pagan establishment. Of course the political correctness cabal will always find excuses for this behavior. The outcry for more government intervention and more social and economic justice nonsense will permeate the conversation. Morality will be replaced with government mandated contraception and the unwashed masses will be satisfied and dismissed by the elitists.

Our economic collapse is a serious contributor to many of these cases today and historically. Don't forget, it was government policy that planted the seeds of this financial crisis. The greatest feat our leaders ever pulled off was convincing us is none of this was their fault. Personal responsibility was one of the hallmark principals that guided this nation to the prosperity it has relative to the rest of the world. Until we return to these and other principles that created the greatest Republic in history these stories will continue to be common.

Unfortunately.

She obviously doesn't have time to get a job because she's too busy getting pregnant every several months. Two years on a chain gang breaking large rocks into smaller rocks would do her some good I think.

The_X_box_360, you have a serious mental problem. Obviously you have pent-up rage, and we don't know what caused it. You need to seek medical help, or at least counseling. Your uncalled for, unnecessary, and unacceptable attitude will cause you and others many problems in the future if it is not modified. Is there a possibility that you are one of Jeremiah Wright's assistants?

We should have abortions, because if she did have one, she would't have left the baby at the side of the road.

So it's a better outcome to murder the child than to have it rescued alive after having been abandoned for 12 hours?

Seriously weird "logic."

But appropriate for baby-killers, I guess.

Children are a gift from God no matter how it happens ! I do not understand the mothers who keep abandoning the babies on the side of the road in garbage cans etc...we continuelly hear this when the law was made to have a place to bring a child to a safe place with no charges against the parent . Please moms their is no shame in letting the child go because of hard times God understands what you face so please to all those who feel they cannot care for the child use the safe places designated for the child and know in your own heart it was right and do not allow anyone to make you feel like you were a bad mom,no ! you loved the child enough to give it HOPE ! God understands you.Know you are looked upon when you trash the child like garbage and you leave it to die.Think about it before you leap,make the better choice for you and your child !

@JeanValjean,

Of course, let's absolve the other half of all responsibility. That makes perfect sense because women can reproduce asexually. It takes two to make a baby and it should take two to take care of it. What she did was horrendous, but where was he? If she was so over extended why couldn't he take care of the baby at for a while. Both are responsible, condoms are cheap and boys are taught how to use them.

Yes Carolina is paying $50,000, but shouldn't be. This filthy little animal should be euthanized. Would spare the taxpayers millions in public assistance and chlorinate the gene pool at the same time. Her v-jaja still had to be hurting from the first kid when she conceived the second. Sew it shut. Let me guess, there is not a common last name between the three of them?

Are they called Amber alerts because so many of these irresponsible moms are named "Amber"?

Seriously, there needs to be a compulsory "life" course in high school, a course to prepare people for adulthood and responsibility. It won't solve everything, but maybe it will enlighten/ scare a few kids into common sense thinking...maybe...

The problem is a cultural one.

In primitive societies, at 19 this young person would have been a dried up old hag if she had not concieved and produced offspring. The entire village would have been supportive and active in the raising of these children. The problem lies in the stigma that is placed on young people for doing what comes natural. Asking young people to not have sex is like turning back the tides. If this young woman had been supported by her family and "village", this would not have happened. The lack of culture and positive activities would have also been crucial. I feel that young people are having sex and babies because they lack culture. Most teen activities such as rollerskating have been eliminated because of liability. What else is there for them to do but party and get knocked up?

To those of you who think that all we need is more religion, consider this. Mississippi, the most religious conservative state is number one in only one thing: teenage pregnancy. Since roughly seventy percent of Americans consider themselves to be "Christian", I don't think more religion is the answer. It only promotes magical thinking. No, more culture is the answer.

I have said over and over that all schools should teach manners and ethics to give children guidance especially in the cases where they have none at home. High schools handing out condoms and giving girls contact information about centers where they can get free birth control is also a good thing; because if teens have sex, they need to learn to use protection. Too many parents are so self-centered and self-absorbed to realize children are people too and need to learn life skills. Telling your child premarital sex is wrong and not to do it doesn't work.

This young woman needs to have her tubes tied and both children should be taken away and adopted out to people who will care for them. I do not know her family, if they are decent people with a rebellious daughter or if they are just as self-centered and uncaring as their daughter. If their are family members who are competent, they children should be placed with them, permanently and never given back to her. If the rest of her family is no better than her, then adopt them out to strangers, together.

If the states do not start taking these babies away from young, unmarried teens, we will continue to have cases like this. Look at the 13 year old in Florida, (born to a 12 year old) who suffered abuse his entire childhood and turned around and raped his 5 year old half brother and murdered his two year old half brother; he was repeating what was done to him, it was all he knew.

We, as a society need to stop this, we need to demand our lawmakers take action.

@marinmom...Rollerskating or having unprotected sex...get totally real here. Find a job instead of laying on your back with your feet in the air. This girl got pregnant again when her baby was 6 weeks old! Ugh! Go on the pill, take the birth control shots, use a condom. Give your body and chance to heal! Why didn't they charge her with attempted murder? What she did was attempted murder. She knew where she left that baby to die and she didn't tell so she could be saved. She needs 35 years in prison.

pater, what I meant is if you know you don't want to deal with a child, don't have one. Number one, if you are going to have sex, use birth control. If you know you are pregnant and don't want to deal with a child (or in her case, another child) you can have an abortion. Trust me, if men had to deal with pregnancy after pregnancy, they would have abortions or use birth control.

FatMan, you are seriously clueless if you think women in poverty-stricken countries all hover lovingly over their babies. Babies are killed, sold, thrown away, sold into slavery, treated like crap, and starved in many cultures where there are few or no resources, little education, and where women don't get control over their reproductive lives.

It is amazing how brilliant some of you are. You know all the answers and you know exactly what her life was like. I said repeatedly I DON'T think what she did is in any way, shape, or form okay at all. Hope you all have had fun wanting her dead and demonizing her. You don't know her or how much she actually does understand or know, but that doesn't stop you. Did the same people who are calling for horrible things to happen to her go to church this morning? Do you call yourselves Christians and still sit in judgement over her and everyone else? She did a horrible thing and she will be punished for it. You don't have to understand it or condone it, but vengeance and hatred says more about your own level of fortune in your life and your lack of education on the topic than it does about her. Wow.

Every hospital should be required to make sure teen mothers are aware of the Safe Haven Laws. It should be posted in maternity wards, handed out at each prenatal visit, and perhaps a nurse or doctor should be required to verbally inform teen mothers of this alternative avenue in case the mother becomes too overwhelmed to care for her child.

But, even doing this won't be enough to stop some mothers who are stressed by financial and emotional pressures. Some girls will be afraid of what society or their family will say if they just "give" their baby away.

Clearly, someone who does this is not prepared to be a parent. If I were the mother of this child, I would be working furiously to put her on a better path. I would have presented her with options, abortion and adoption specifically.

If the daughter and her family cannot function, then give them to someone who will love them more than anything and who will commit to raising them as confident, educated human beings. Sometimes it's even better to be an orphan rather than grow up in an animal kingdom. These children are likely to grow up and act out all their lives, or be put to death in a prison or killed in a melee.

They need to bring in both the mother and father of that child and their perspective parents to come to some plan as to the future of thi and the 11 month old. Welfare and the anti-child support system is NOT the answer. We as a society need to keep and hold the parents responsible for the welfare of their children, BEFORE they have any more.

Feminists sure are a funny bunch. The mother does something wrong, and immediately it must be a man's fault.

Cuong-you mean to tell me that this doesn't happen in Vietnam? They just don't have access to internet over there, therefore the reports of this kind of sickness are probably not reported. Maybe they just do their own abortions with coat hangers!

@Joy5711, I was once 19 and never would I have thought to do something like this!! My niece has 2 young babies and is struggling but she would NEVER think to dump her baby somewhere to die! That is what this 'mother' did...left her baby to die! She deserves to be punished and the kid deserve parents that actually care about what happens to them. She needs to keep legs CLOSED!! Stress is not an excuse. She needed help...this is not the way to get it!

just a cleaning lady

Jerry1903677,If you are anti abortion rights tell me how many children have you adopted in your lifetime.I'm betting not a one.Abortion is a woman's choice not a man's

May I ask how many you have adopted? What if a woman doesn't want to have an abortion, but feels she has no other "choice?' What type of "choice" is that? What have you done to see to it she has a real choice? People like you are not really pro-choice - you're pro-abortion. You want women to only have abortions. You don't want them to choose them, you want them to have them.

Get off your sanctimonious high horse and start doing something for women.

Now, make sure you get this comment, as well as all other comments that hold women to be responsible, collapsed. You pro-"choicers" don't want anything to be heard that doesn't conform to the only choice you support: abortion. Women don't matter to you, only abortion. This girl who did this to her innocent child, and for which she needs to be punished for her "choice," was right there in front of you. You offered her no support. If you did, she wouldn't have done this. May people with your similar philosophy suffer the same punishing consequences as she must now face.

And don't forget to mark "collapse." You don't want the truth about your kind to be heard.

I wonder how many of you holier-than-thou commenters would have given this girl some Pampers, Similac, clothing or shelter, had she knocked on your door? What she did was appauling, but who gave all of you the right to judge her so cruely as if you all have never done any wrong? No matter how small our wrongs have been, they deny us the right to cruely judge another unless we were there to assist. Its so easy for folks to come to these blogs and type their little heart-felt anger out. I feel so bad for what that baby must have endured, being out in the open for 12 hours like that. But, to read some of the comments here, tell me that there are even more people in our society with sick, unforgiving minds.

George: I understand where you are coming from. She is probably poor, scared and possibly suffering post-partum depression. HOWEVER...if she really couldn't handle the child, she could have turned it over at a hospital, police station, women's shelter or firehouse. Hell...she could have left the baby sleeping in a corner booth in a diner late at night and left when no one was looking. It would have taken them a few minutes to find the kid and she could have been long gone, and the child wouldn't have been at risk. Dropped it a a relative's house.

Instead, she chose to make the kid suffer so she could lie to avoid getting in trouble. That's where she lost any sympathy she might have once had from me if she'd brought the baby to shelter.

@George 39...., I agree with you. What this young woman did was wrong and I imagine she will be duly punished by society based on the laws of the land. There are options and it is a shame she didn't know about them. Thankfully the children are safe and hopefully, they will find good homes.

I'm hoping all the negative people posting for more evil to be done don't consider themselves Christian, because it is obvious that they aren't.

But we sitting here and probably older and hopefully wiser, not in her position, and with more resources to call upon DO know these things and most likely would take the baby somewhere safe. But we don't know if she was aware or thinking straight. What she did was awful, but she did tell them and the baby was found. Still horrible, still way wrong, but as Miss Copper and george make good points.

She will be punished, and the children will hopefully grow in homes where they will be loved. The judge will look at why and how and what and sentence her accordingly.

What all of you are failing to realize is that this young lady was not found wandering the streets for hours in a daze because an accident happened to her child. She purposely left the child in a ditch, then went to the police with some half cocked tale of how it was missing, etc. This is premeditation. Had the child died she could be up on premeditated murder charges.

She knew what she was doing, no matter how many excuse the bleeding hearts want to make for her. It was only through good fortune and Divine Intervention that the child did not die.

Sorry George - but she made the WORST DECISION POSSIBLE. Even if she had left the baby in a McDonalds bathroom I could feel a pang of sympathy for her since somone would have discovered the infant within an hour - if not minutes!

Like Tracey above said, Any sympathy that she COULD have gotten from me went out the window when she decided to leave the baby in a DITCH!

George and Ram: Thank you for taking the time to post. My how judgmental the bloggers appear, how ugly are their words of vengeance. Hope they can see it.

What they need more is God and morals, that say sex outside marriage is wrong, keep your legs closed and men keep your brains in your pants until married and lock up those who want a abortion to hide what they did, or bring the baby to term and give it to someone who will care for them, planned parenthood is a murder mill for cash and nothing more, but they will be the ones paying in the end and we are almost there.

George: I am glad there are still some compassionate individuals out there who can think of all sides of an issue.

George --- For your information, there are a greater number of problem pregnancy facilities/abortion alternative facilities than there are abortion facilities. This, despite the fact that to help the pregnant women and her baby through the pregnancy and beyond tell she gets on her feet costs money---a lot of money. But the abortion mills, er uh, clinic makes money, a lot of money.

Benfox=5810785,Planned parenthood does more than refer women to doctors that perform abortions.Drop by one someday and talk to those folks.

Hey earthgirl - How SIMILAR the right wing loonies and the left wing loonies are!

But I guess you APPLAULD this woman's decision to leave her baby to DIE IN THE WORST WAY POSSIBLE.

It's people like you that make pot-smokers & the TRUE hippies look BAD!

Where Is The Father?

bakwmn, does she know who the father is? Did she tell the father she was pregnant? You can't automatically decide that just because she had the kid that the father knows about it. For that matter, did she do this to get back at the father? It wouldn't be the first time in the last month that some girl tried to hurt her child to hurt the father.

ya, and visa versa.

The baby's surname is Thompson, the mother's is Meaker. I don't know how it is in Illinois, but where I come from, the 'Thompson' would have to agree to being the father for his name to appear on the birth certificate. So where was HE, 3 weeks after the event.

George, I agree with you in many respects. But these days, people don't live in communities with people and families who know each other and support each other, sad to say. People are cruel and this girl clearly saw burden over hope.

Of course she made the worst decision imaginable. She's only a kid and probably uneducated as well. How could anyone with good decision-making ability even decide to have a second child out of wedlock when the baby can't be supported?

We have a govt closing community health centers and mental health facilities and threatening to cut off support that might intervene in situations like this. If the girl belongs to a church, perhaps she could have sought support there. Her family is her first line of relief, though, and it appears that was not strong enough either.

This girl needs to either rally or find parents for these children who can give them a chance for a good life.

I see your point George, but, what we do sometimes gets thrust into the public realm. Then we the public get to say our piece, thats democracy. Like it or not.

History is a reminder that everything happening
today has happened before. It's a human thing, another reason I don't believe in
evolution. It's sad, heartbreaking, it's life. I'm not calloused to life, I'm
happy the baby and mother are safe. Normal healthy people living in a healthy
society don't do things like this.

America is well past the getting to be a sick society stage.

Sorry, abortion is legal. The right cant ban abortion, thats just a reelection ploy. It was approved by the supreme kangaroo court. NOTHING CAN CHANGE IT. In fact if the right wanted to right after roe vs wade was approved, ronald rayguns had a con majority in the house and senate. he did not change a thing. It cant be changed.

So since abortion is legal why does this keep happening? How about bad parental upbringing. How about lack of initiative to get a job and a place and support yourself and quit sucking off the parents. course there are enough parents out there that are enablers. Course on the other hand its hard to shut off the tap and have the kid play the wont call or come by game.

Course tried to fill the hole with one of mine. for a while. A little marijuana turned into a little meth and then one day my kid came over and pulled out his brain and started playing with it. The gravy train quit. Currently i am raising two grandchildren. Not really all that bad. Course we are supposed to have children, when we are maybe say 25 or so, when we are dumb enough to believe, it will complete us. When your 60 its a wild ride. Whole new ballgame, but would not have it any other way.

I wouldn't be surprised if Jesus told her to leave the baby there on the roadside. Mandatory sterilization in some cases (like this) should be ordered by the court with batting an eye. The idea of sterilizing a man who drops his load in any receptacle is excellent.

What does abortion have to do with this?

Except for countries suffering from famine, starvation, and all kinds of illnesses, this happens in the U.S. more often than in any other industrialized country on earth.

Rasputin - how about citing a source for your statement? What? No source? You merely fabricated the "fact" in your pea-sized brain? Just what I suspected.

Ugh, this makes me so angry, as a mother to a 12 month old I know it's hard when their little, but they are so helpless at that age. Why didn't she just drop the baby off at the FS or Hospital instead of dumping her like a piece of garbage. So glad she's safe, the mother needs to be sterlized or taught about safe sex she is not fit to be a mother.

Why are people who do this sort of thing not being punished..she will get a slap on the wrist and nothing more..this innocent little baby could have been dropped off at a safe place, there are plenty of loving and caring people out there that would have taken this little girl..seriously, I am getting so sick of society and the horrendous things that people do..

I like reading how so many people are saying this young woman needs to be sterilized. Do people really give a thought to what they are saying? Sterilize another human being? Who in the world have the right to tell you that you should not be able to bear children? That is not another person's call. True, its sad what she did to her child... but we live in the United States of America and we don't step on such private rights of our citizens. It sounds so selfish and sick to think that another adult would have the power over rather a man or woman parents a child. Who in this country/world is perfect? Her punishment should be jail time and whatever else the Illinois constituion calls for.... not corporal punishment by invasion of her reproductive system.

george, if you keep abusing children, you should not have anymore. It's not eugenics when it has nothing to do with race, intelligence or money. She did not abandon the child over money... she basically left it to die (she had power over the infant) because she didn't have a job? why not kill yourself?

Obviously she is having some sort of issue, and unfortunately until she gets better, she should have a norplant implant. Sorry, it's not fair to the kid. And if she would rather spend the time in jail, fine.

george: are you serious, the government steps on our private rights as citizens every single day, and go ahead and vote for Obama and things will continue as they are. I for one want to be able to decide if I want a l16 oz. soda or not!

tss, no offense, she does not need to be on the pill, she should take that shot or the other medicine that is implanted under the skin so in case she forgets, because she sounds like the type that wouldn't take a pill.

GEORGE 3973351 states in his post that, "but we live in the United States of America and we don't step on such private rights of our citizens"! First thing George, does stupidity come natural to you or is it something you strive for each day? I suspect it's natural! The state does have the power to step all over the parental rights of someone who has displayed the type of behavoir and total disregard of another human being like this piece of trash did!! When it's your own child, they really get to steppin'! Do you really think that a short stay in the county lock-up is enough to instill some "humaness" and morals into this girl? I don't and I'm sure I'm not alone in that belief! What deterrent is there to keep this girl from becoming some sort of baby making factory and littering our highways with her unwanted and unloved trash? I have tried to understand your apparent outrage over other posters suggestion's of sterilization, but unless you're willing to support as many of these unwanted babies that she will no doubt keep turning out in the years to come, I wouldn't be so quick to display your "holier than thou" attitude(especially when there are people around listening to your ranting)!!

suseq: You said, "are you serious, the government steps on our private rights as citizens every single day..." Didn't pay your speeding ticket, or your real estate tax, or whatever? Your post appears to come from an immature, spoiled, not aware of the present, thinking. Too much Fox probably. BTW, the Mayor of NY passed the, in your words, "I want a l16 oz. soda or not!" Get a repub/tparty in the WHouse and you'll be lucky to get an 8 oz. soda. Now go to bed and sober up.

Now now earthgirl - let's not be so harsh here:)

And the ONLY was to restore our rights is to elect RON PAUL!!

She's not going to give the kids to a loving family, they bring her income and drama. Don't want to work, get knocked up and watch the $ & assistance come in. $ not enough, have another one and watch more $ come in. There has to be a penalty, mothers like this should HAVE to take a job, ANY job so that us taxpayers aren't supporting them due to their irresponsibility. The only solution (and it's not cheap either) is more oversight for FORCING these mothers to get off the system by FORCING them to work.

Well, Here, guess there will be lots of babies on sides of roads, then, since child care costs a fortune and many low-paying jobs don't even cover that cost, much less necessities. Cool how people have all the answers but don't have enough information to understand the problems.

The people most in need of knowing about "safe haven" laws for giving up babies are those most likely to know about them. Maybe if they put public service notices on during "Teen Mom" and other crap, they might see it. Also, those laws should go well past 30 days. Any parent who cannot deal should be able to give up thier child without fear of repercussions. Can't be any more expensive than prosecuting and incarcerating people like this girl. I also wonder about her mental capacity.

dont know but if looks are revealing, shes got no job and two kids and is 19. Either the lights are on and nobodies home, or the intelligence level is somewhere between rocks and plantlife. course there was not mention of the father or fathers. There is a thing called child support.

what the f does child support have to do with this? your comments are all stupid, and make no sense

The people most in need of knowing about "safe haven" laws for giving up babies are those most likely to know about them.

pissedoffinAZ - really? I would have thought that the people who are most in need of knowing about safe haven laws would be the ones who are least likely to know about them.

Kris68,She may be suffering from postpartum depression and or psychosis.People who do this are not mentally wrapped too tight when they commit this type of an act.

She could also have left the little girl at the hospital after birth. She sure didn't waste any time creating another life. I hope the little girl that was abandoned will have better life than she did at the start.

Sadly, her actions show that this act was less about the child and more about her. Instead of choosing to leave her child in a safe drop off zone, and walk away, which would make sense if this were actually about the child, she hides the child and dreams up a huge senerio where SHE is in fact the victim. This child was mearly a means to an end with her.....she CHOSE to use this child to gain her sympathy and attention. Clearly this woman has problems...

"Wow. So all of you know all that happened and what brought her to that point I guess. You know if she had a choice in the first or second conception, what her education, mental health, and physical health are, and you are her appointed judge and jury. You who want her killed are as bad as you say she is."

I really don't care what happened to bring her to this point. It doesn't matter. She tossed a newborn out like she was used toilet paper. I am not interested in providing this individual with an excuse. There is no excuse for what she did. She needs to be punished.

Who said she didn't need to be punished?

So melissa, you know her and all of her motives?

It is sad, and there isn't a quick fix to the problem, and it is a problem. Did she let society down or did society let her down ? Where is the guy that got her pregnant ? Don't use the word fathered a child in this case.

Boromir, thank you for putting into words what I have been trying to say. Yes, she did an awful thing, and yes, she did let her babies, her family, and probably society down. I would also bet that society let her down more than once along the way as well. This situation is one more wake up call that there are serious problems in our society, and calling for this young woman to be sterilized, have organs ripped out, or killed doesn't solve any of them. What she did was horrendous. What some of you on here are calling for is horrendous as well. Whatever happened to love the sinner and hate the sin or not judge or any of those quotes?

She will be punished. Would you all like to get bats or guns and go take care of her yourself? Seriously, it is awful, but hatred and calls for violence aren't great either.

Clarkjoebob,It's evident to me that the father or fathers of these children are not financially supporting their children.You try and have children and juggle work like many women do these days.I bet you wouldn't last one week.Look for a solution to this ongoing societal problem instead of condemning this woman.

I was 23 had a 3 year old and a 1 year, no help from my husband who thought more of drugs than he did of his family, not enough money, undiagnosed bi-polar mood disorder, post-partum depression, and all I thought about was dropping my kids off somewhere with a family that had money and didn't go to church so I could kill myself without hurting my kids.

If it was really about not having enough money or some type of mental illness why did she only try to kill one of her children and not both of them?

BJ, I'm sorry you went through that. She might not have been thinking of killing her child. She might have been holding that new baby and been totally out of touch with reality, not thinking straight, and/or so overwhelmed that she wasn't thinking of the baby even dying. I have no idea, but your children are very lucky that you didn't quite go far enough from reality to want them to "not hurt" when you were considering hurting yourself. Sometimes when we aren't thinking straight we just can't see the whole picture.

Maybe she is just a selfish girl who didn't want a child, but I would bet there is more to this than that. Many times the family won't let the girl have an abortion or she hides the pregnancy until it is too late, and then they insist she keep it, and if you add in depression, psychosis, desperation, lack of sleep, and who knows what else it become surreal. But unless she has resources she is lost...or there is abuse involved. I have no idea, but I would say your kids are lucky you are their mom, and that many on here have been lucky as well. Sometimes horrible things happen to people and they end up making even worse choices. I doubt that going around killing and sterilizing people is the answer...sigh. I'm glad you came through it all:)

Perfect solution. Of course she is one of those that THINKS the state is supposed to take care of her and her children no matter what. So let's see how long she lasts in an isolated environment where SHE has to completely and totally take care of herself - and rely on no one else.

For a couple of years I would sentence her to live like that - and then perhaps she would learn how to value human life a whole lot better. But I would never return those two children to her. Ever.

Disagree. couple years she would have 4 kids instead of two

maybe in case like this, the government SHOULD provide birth control of the permanent kind.

I agree that she should be forced to pay the consequences for what she has done. <>***<>***<> HOWEVER, I would like to know why almost nobody suggests the father(s) be dealt with in any way. T/he/y should also be forced to pay the penalty. The fact that the father is almost always given a free pass is a partial explanation of why the desparate mother sometimes acts so,... well, desparately.

Robin,It is you who should be on an island.

Matilda,

What?! Now you want men to be punished for the psychotic behaviors of women? Does it seem fair to say that someone who could abandon their 3 week old baby, probably doesn't have a whole lot of lovable qualities? You wouldn't expect a woman to stick it out with a psychotic husband just for family unity, would you?

Lorraine, how do you know what she was thinking? Did she tell you? I didn't see anything in the article to support your contention that she thought the government should take care of her and her kids. Don't look now, but I think your political bias is showing.

But underwriter, the point isn't punishing men for psychotic behaviors of women. The point is that handing new babies to women who have no emotional, psychological, societal, or financial resources is a recipe for disaster. Perhaps if she had two ...even small...amounts of child support she might not have felt whatever she was feeling. Why should women end up with ALL the responsibility of a child if the man was there and contributed to the situation as much as she did? Why should men get to go ejaculate and move on with no help for her to raise the child, but not even be mentioned if mom makes a horrible decision when she has no help at all or resources? She made that choice, but if you want to prevent a recurrence we have to look at the whole picture.

I keep reading how "those women" should keep their legs together, but only rarely is the boy told to keep it in his pants and man up if he makes a baby. And blaming all the babies and mothers on welfare on the women leaves out the fact that the irresponsible and/or insistent boys are costing this country just as much or more than the mothers and babies? She has one or a couple, but he can go around and get several girls pregnant and leave them to stay on welfare and not get educated.

So how about we stop blaming just one part of the problem? This is a whole picture with kids, parents, adults of both sexes, lack of resources available, government, and schools involved.

Like your thinking, Rita.

Nineteen is way too old to choose to act like this. Or for society to excuse her cruel criminal negligence toward a defenseless child away.

She has serious mental health issues and no doubt not a lot of emotional and family support.The father or fathers of these two babies should be ashamed of themselves.They helped make a child with this young woman and left her to handle the entire responsibility.This is the way males are being raised in the U.S.It is not all about the young women being immoral.I hope that she gets the help that she needs.

It is possible she is broken, hopeless, sick, or in a horrible situation. We have no clue and no one is excusing her behavior.

No, I don't think she has mental issues, she does not care. She is a selfish bitch imo who just wants to have babies and not care how they are raised. I am sick and tired of folks clinging to the belief that when a female does something like this, she must have a mental problem. It's just like when a 13 year old and his 13year old friend killed the grandmother, folks are saying they can't believe they did it. Guess what? They did it and don't care. I don't play that well something must be mental. Nope. They know right from wrong and a lot of times they don't care, like this wench. She didn't care, she didn't want to be bothered. Stop having babies that you don't want.

Excuses, excuses.!

Are you still married Rita?

18 is WAY TOO YOUNG to be having 2 kids unless you're parents are 1%er's.

Having 2 children before your 18 means you'll have a greater chance of having healthy children. Why put having children in a category of money ? Family's, mother, father, parents, grandparents, all help in raising a child. Married 44 years, 4 children, grandchildren and great grandchildren, it's a team effort. Way to many single mothers and deadbeat dads in this country. I'm in favor of castration of males....over sterilization of women...

Bormir, having children on either extreme is not optimal, it's like a bell curve... and a lower socioeconomic status equates with worse outcomes neurocognitively and academically. There have been many studies done on that (how children develop, 2008)

Lorraine-

No, she probably DIDN'T get the birth control talk at school. In this day and age, they only get the abstinence talk with a couple of sex ed "facts" thrown in. You know, like "you can"t get pregnant if you are raped." Besides, many communities do not have Planned Parenthood. An uninsured relative told me she just went in for a routine OBGYN visit and paid over $240!

Seriously, I have teens and talk to their friends. It is AMAZING that NO ONE, parents, teachers, etc. is talking to these kids! And the boys are worse than the girls.

You are right, Budgie1.

budgie and ram,

so you are saying she does not know where kids come from, she does not have access to healthcare (even though she probably is on title 19 if she has a kid) and she thinks the cops would rather she kill the kid than ask about foster care. Wow, we really are turning into a 3rd world country.

No, jane. I am saying that we don't know what led her to that horrible day, and that I have no idea what education or mental capabilities she has, what her family is like, and what she knows. We just don't know, and knowing where babies come from is completely different than desperately wanting acceptance or love to the point of having sex with some boy to get it, or all the other scenarios that might have led to her having two babies that young. I would bet no one told her that she could get pregnant that soon after birth, too.

If you think she should have known that consider that I see many posts on message boards made my adult women that actually say, "No, you hardly have any chance of getting pregnant right after giving birth" so don't worry about that. These are women of various ages and educational levels, and if they have no clue that it happens, why assume this women knows much of anything?

One of my coworkers had a great idea on this - that every male in this country, once he reaches the age of sexual maturity, should have a DNA sample taken and stored in a national database. That way, the sperm donors in situations like this could be tracked down and made to support the children they so recklessly helped to create. (Not incidentally, it would also make prosecuting rape cases much easier!)

VickiC-Great idea.That's why I think that women should be in charge of this country.That idea would cut donw on tax dollars for sure.

NO vicki. That would be BIG BROTHER ALONG with our CORPORATE/ZIONIST MASTERS infringing on our PERSONAL LIBERTIES!!

And any looney who tries to extract DNA from me will quickly SEE the GROUND!

Because it's obvious that women never walk away from their children without thought. Um, do you know for a fact that the father of either of these children knew they were fathers? Of course when you tell men they have no say in anything regarding their children they will eventually believe you. So why are you pissed when men don't try to do anything at all? Isn't that exactly what you want them to do, have no opinion when it comes to YOUR children and YOUR body? Oh wait, they should just be good little boys and do exactly what you tell them and only speak when spoken to, right?

It is truly a good thing you're just a cleaning lady, you have no sense of civil liberties, obviously, and during all your hypotheticals of where the father(s) has/have gone to, did you ever consider that he or they could be dead, wasn't there still some kind of war going on or something like that, where this country sends teen-aged males to die for the civil rights of people that hate us? "That's why women should be in charge of this country," so that they can disregard the constitution on an emotional whim?

Amanda, even if Illinois just passed the safe haven law, where are all the cases in Illinois where children have been abandoned and killed due to the stupidity of "parental units" who have kids and then don't want them? Are you telling me that people in the state of Illinois have been stupid until 2011 when it came to unwanted children? Why do you have to wait for a law in order to do the right thing? If you (not you Amanda, but others) don't know what to do with a child, then you should not have sex at all.

"No one should be allowed to have children that are not financially, mentally capible of taking care of them. Wake up !!!!"

So what do you recommend? Either mandatory interviews by government officials before you are permitted to have sex, or forced abortions? This country needs real solutions, not pie-in-the-sky silliness like your comment.

She is not a child, 19 is an adult. Stop making excuses for the selfish bitch.

This girl is 19. I'd like to know how the family has anything to do with this? She is an adult and unless she is mentally ill or disabled the family cannot lawfully control anything she does. That would be like us blaming you for anything that people in your community do.

Hello, once she is 18 years old she is legally an adult. Her parents nor relatives can legally do nothing. Hopefully she will sit in jail many years and someone responsible will raise her two children. It will probably be a family member since they do have first rights unless they are deemed unfit. My guess is that she thought she could handle two children after the birth of this one, but mentally lost it because why would anyone just leave a child alongside the road. If she had been thinking clearly, she would have gave the child to a safe haven location even if she had passed the legal deadline to do so. As for her family, others should not pass judgement, because for all we know they are not capable of raising children either nor want to raise more. I just hope the children grow up in a home that loves them and is capable of meeting their needs to survive.

TraceyS,So you think that we need more government regulation and laws because we can't think for ourselves.Your idea is asinine.

Just a Cleaning Lady, you may want to work on your reading comprehension skills and re-read the comment thread.

exactly, how could they leave the 11 month old with the white trash that created the mother"

It's not really fair to blame her parents for her actions, especially since she is a legal adult. I've seen terrible people come out of stable, loving homes - and great people come out of horrible, abusive families. If someone is going to grow up to be a monster, it doesn't matter what the paents do.

It's not right that this society blames the young women.Where are the Dad's.In our day when a member of the male species impregnated a person of the female species,they got married.These young guys now days are shirking their responsibilities while the taxpayers pick up the financial slack.Parents need to start drumming into their son's heads that is not ok to get a girl pregnant and walk away.

She should have realized...hahahaa. You are priceless. At 18 girls know those things, right? You knew at 18 exactly who you would be with and what princes men could be. You have no clue what she knew or didn't know, if anyone bothered to teach her, or what happened. Wow. Cool how you were a wise person at 18. Yes, it is good to know, but 18 isn't an age famous for choosing star dates or knowing the score. What she did was wrong...but should have known? How funny.

"It's not really fair to blame her parents for her actions, especially since she is a legal adult. I've seen terrible people come out of stable, loving homes - and great people come out of horrible, abusive families. If someone is going to grow up to be a monster, it doesn't matter what the paents do"

Those are the EXCEPTIONS Vicki. That's what I "love" about you ULTRA LIBERALS. Always treating the EXCEPTIONS as the NORM!!

Scooter, one person is never responsible for the actions of another. Parents are not responsible for the actions of their adult children. By the time you reach adulthood, you, and you alone, are in charge of what you do. By trying to hold her parents responsible for her actions, you are basically saying that she can point at them and say, "It's not my fault I did what I did. They should have raised me better!"

She ia black, everyone involved in the story is. What is your point?

If so many couples are praying for a child to adopt, why is there a system in place that is overburdened with far too many children than it can manage? There are too many children up for adoption as is. The problem is that they are continuously being born to people who don't want them or can't take care of them. That is the issue here.

Because that same system wants to charge you an arm and both legs to adopt. They make it so hard to adopt in this country. If it was easier, many more of us would adopt. I've 2 kids and I'd adopt another 2 or 3 if it wasn't such an evasive process. Why do you think people in this country continue to adopt from overseas? It isn't because they feel more sorry for those kids than the ones in our own countries. It is because the adoption process here is only for the wealthy. If a kid is living off the system in foster care, does it really matter if they'd be living off the system with loving parents who aren't wealthy?

Don't forget that you have to be the same race as any child you want to adopt from the US, and be a married, straight, at least upper middle class income family with no more than 2 minor children in the home and that you might drain your savings trying to adopt one child or go in debt to adopt.

Sorry for the double post...but the the logic still stands.

stackdat, i cannot say i am ultra conservative, however, abortion is legal and will stay that way. the republicans barf but its only for votes. The supreme kangaroo court voted it in in 78. as far as that goes posted before but ronald rayguns coulda overturned it except the supreme court overrides pres and the congress. the point of this whole mess is abortion is legal and give me a break i could get birth control pills and i am male. seriously. they aint hard to get.

So since thats all gonna stay and not change, why does this mess keep happening? I am holding out for lack of parental control or training. I mean child support is easy to get. dont even have to go to court. DHR will do it for you. Course it could be a deal of two children with six fathers.

For years young girls could get birth control pills at our county health department, but there was still too many young girls having babies. Haven't you ever seen these misguided girls on tv shows talking about wanting to get pregnant? Stupid little fools don't have a clue what it takes to raise a child. But what would they know? Many of them came from families where either the parents are divorced, mom never bothered to marry or grandparents raised them. Many parents are too busy being concerned about where they'll get their next fix or what bar to hang out in tonight. No family values!!!!! Then add in a welfare dependent society, and they learn at an early age the more babies they spit out the more money, free higher education, free cell phones and probably more free stuff than we can ever imagine. What is really sad is all this support still isn't enough to raise a child. Morals are what is missing in so many of our young people's lives.

We as parents need to start out with loving discipline of our children. Set limits, say no when it is necessary and stick to it. Dont be wishy washy, and dont give your children everything there little hearts desire. That is the big problem, and spank your children if they need it, a little swat never hurt anyone. And I am not talking about beating, there is a huge difference, a big difference in beating and a swat. It is unbelievable how children talk to their parents nowdays, just go to WalMart. I would have got slapped silly if I acted that way back in the 60's, and btw I only got spanked one time because I respected my parents, they were not abusive in any way but would use a firm hand on our behind if necessary. Parents spoil their children way too much, and the children use the fact that they can call CPS anytime they feel like. Well I spanked one of mine in a public building one time and got cussed at, "you b---- I dont beat my children, "yeh I'll bet your children will end up in prison too" And we need to teach our children to respect adults btw. When my children were small back in the 80's they were made to give up their seats if an adult walked into the room, boy if looks could kill when I did that,. And one way to raise a thief, dont make your children walk back into the store after they stole something, you want them to be in jail right, dont offend the little dieties. I did that, made my 6 year old walk up to the cashier and tell her that she did not pay for the candy she walked out with, there were about 5 other parents in line that wanted to execute me right then and there. My daughter would not pick up a penny off of the floor in a store to this day. I can tell you that is where the problem lies, at home. Love your children, and dont spoil them!

Has anyone read 12 ways to raise a juvenile delinquient, this comes to mind when I hear stories like this, somehow the parents are usually to blame for how their child turns out.

You have a STRANGE way of showing love suseq1591.

I bet your kids FEAR you!

There is a big difference in being afraid of something, or someone, my children respected me and are thankful for how they were raised!

She had to have known that her child had a slim chance of making it. If the baby hadn't been crying and alerted her searchers to her location would she have been found? This sounds like a case of attempted murder to me, but I'm not a lawyer so she'll probably get off with a wrist slap and admonishment not to do it again.