Not one but two aliases, drug conviction, and driving off with someone on the hood of her car. That's why.

The agent was transported to the hospital, so how was he walking toward her shooting as she backed up?

@ U Gotta Gun?

Those same bystanders are the ones that see nothing, hear nothing and say nothing when one of their own involved in a crime. The fact this woman has 2 names pretty much says she is in hiding from something and because she attacked the Border Patrol I'm putting my money on here being here illegally and she thought they where there for her.

@jack johnson it doesn't even say what his injuries were.....what makes you think he couldn't walk toward her shooting?

How do you know if he wasn't transported to the hospital just to be checked out, or for scrapes and cuts from hitting the asphalt?

It sounds like she tried to run down the CBP agent and got shot for it. She was probably trying to give one of her friends who live in the neighborhood time to get away. Either that or she saw the gun and not the badge so she thought it was one of her old drug dealing compadres there to even the score with her for something and ran down the agent. I get very suspicious of people who go by different names, it usually means that they are hiding from someone or something that they did. I am not at all surprised that we are getting two different stories about what happened. Whenever you have friends and family involved they tend to interpret the events so that their friend/loved one looks innocent, even when they know they did something wrong. This is for two reasons. First, they are trying to protect the person they know from being labeled the criminal they are and second, they see the big dollar signs they can get from a wrongful death lawsuit. They claim the shooting was not justified so that they can try and hit the lottery with a big payoff courtesy of the taxpayers. I seriously doubt that a CBP agent would simply open fire on someone for no reason. The story being told be the family and neighbors just does not add up and certainly does not explain how a CBP agent ended up hospitalized from being hit by her car.

She was in her car, speeded up and ran purposely into a person standing on the street. She then continued driving for several hundred feet with the man ON the hood of her car, sounds like attempted murder to me. She's already had a drug arrest, uses an alias, and tries to kill an officer. The officer had every right to defend himself from her, either being pinned against another car or a tree, or knocked off the hood of the car and run over. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if she was hauling drugs in the car even though her family says she no longer uses drugs (as if they would admit it if she did). They are just setting themselves up for a big cash settlement. Nothing like a couple hundred thousand dollars to ease the pain, right, amigo?

Agnon Mema, you don't visit this site very often do you? I don't recognize any of the,

Interesting how it's always WHITE CONSERVATIVES who are the first to be judge, jury and executioner in these cases, but when it's themselves who are charged with any crime it is "innocent until proven guilty"......

type people you are speaking of. You sound like a racist.

Interesting that not one witness saw what the border patrol reported. If she carried him several yards, while he discharged his weapon 6 times, they should have had time to get some video. By the same token, if witnesses saw her driving slowly backwards while a border patrol agent walked after her firing his weapon 6 times, you would think someone got video of this. Most people walk around with cell phones in their hands these days.

Border patrol said car was moving forward. Every witness said it was moving in reverse; no one on the hood. So was the care in reverse or drive when they pulled her body out. Is there any sign that her vehicle actually hit anyone?

I don't see why most posters feel a need to rush to judgement based on the limited amount of information in this story. They seem to be saying that if you are Hispanic you deserve to get shot because you must be doing something wrong. The dead women, and the border patrol agent both deserve their day in court where a jury can decide what happened, based on the facts.

You all are assuming that the Border Patrol's (they are not cops) version of this story is true. Why? Oh, yeah, because the dead woman is brown and has a married name??? Seriously? I live in southern AZ, near the Mexico border, and have lots of experience with BP in this area. They are obnoxious, arrogant bullies. I think anything they say about this incident should be very carefully examined.

Done and over with deal, she was in the wrong.

@ will tell you

exactly.

Chula Vista is mainly populated by illegals and gang members.The border patrol agent was not even remotely trying to engage this woman in anything.I'll bet she knew who he was serving the warrant on and thought she'd take street justice into her own hands.She's no innocent and the border patrol agent was in his legal rights as a law enforcement officer to shoot her.Case closed and let's hope the feds don't give her family any of our hard earned tax dollars.As a side issue,the original news report stated that she was in this country illegally.

No one is noticing that the victim has a 17 year old son and is 32 years old? She was pregnant when she was probably pregnant when she was 14 and definitely pregnant when she was 15. This is not a person who can make good judgements. She must have hit the officer pretty hard to cause the windshield to crack that badly. Things just don't add up. Hell is the agent was fighting to stay on the hood, of course he couldn't get his badge out.

Yet another reason officer involved shootings should be independently investigated. Independent investigation is long over due and will only strengthen our image of law enforcement.

The shots came from the hood. He did not walk towards her with the gun. She was shot from the hood. Look at the pictures.

Also if someone just hit you with a car and tried to kill you, I imagine you would be a bit pissed of. To do that much damage to the window requires that a human body be hit quite forcefully and hit the window really hard.

Deborah Cox Look at the pictures. She must have really been traveling to hit the agent so hard that he flew up over her bumper and hood and hit the window which is laminated so hard to leave that indentation in the glass. The law says after you have an accident you stop and render assistance and call for help. She didn't stop and she didn't render assistance. She was shot from the hood. I doubt anyone who had been hit so hard could walk.

Want to make some more accusations about people being hit by cars and what they should do? You do realize any woman who has a child when they are 14/15 and doesn't stop when they hit a person is not demonstrating good judgement and is really thinking?

@ U Gotta Gun?: really? even the witness' say she hit the officer, and i don't think they could find a non biased witness in the whole neighborhood.

look at the car.

Too many questions to jump to conclusions.

Some thoughts:

* Two names - most likely one is her maiden name or maybe she was married before.

* @ofcourse1 So what if she was pregnant at 15? I would hate to be judged by all the stupid stuff I did in my teens or even my 20's. 32 is a long ways from 15.

* Once again, ofcourse1, comes up with an absurd idea.

She must have really been traveling to hit the agent so hard that he flew up over her bumper and hood and hit the window which is laminated so hard to leave that indentation in the glass.

#1 If he flew up that hard he wouldn't have been able to pull his gun. Most likely that indentation was caused by the bullets.

#2 If some guy came at you and you feared for your life would you stop and let him kill you?

* From the look of the windshield I don't see how she could have been backing up and hitting the agent. Seems logical the bullets would have come from the rear or side window if that was the case.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

where the shots penatrated the car, and entered the victim tells more than anything witness wise one would think.

perhaps he went over the the roof, and onto the hood, but in that situation imo (just imo) a bit of speed would have to be present going in reverse, and it would be a bit more than a casual "backing in reverse" for fact.

yet while riding on the hood of a car, @ x=amount of mph, and needing 2 hands to hold on for most part, until a break in momentum occurs, i do not think myself personally would have produced a badge over a side arm.

wondering if starting a litter @ age 15 says something about the lifestyle this woman had, being her oldest was 9 when she was busted for drugs? just because this was 8 yrs ago, doesnt mean she wasnt still involved in drugs either. just means she wasnt "caught" since then. and there are a lot of those who do deal/buy and have done so for years, and have yet to be caught. so means little to nothing without personally knowing the person....

The investigation will show that the CBP, dressed in jeans and a wife beater, blocked her in the middle of the street. He then slammed himself into the windshield and dragged the car several hundred yards. When she (according to witnesses) tried to reverse her car, he clung to the car with both hands and shot her several times. All because he preferred to spend the day at the hospital and found this more entertaining than serving a federal warrant on someone else in the neighborhood.

"He believes the agent who shot her overreacted."

I don't know-a couple hundred yards would be about my limit playing Chief Pontiac.

With DSLs like those I'm not surprised she was popping them out so fast. Maybe her kids will learn a valuable lesson from this. If a cop is in your neighborhood serving a warrant (which I'm sure they are donig a lot in this neighborhood) stay out of the way. If the cop sees you, don't into him with your car.

Not sure what to think here except that if some guy in plain clothes pulls a gun out and points it at me while I'm sitting behind the wheel, I'd do the same thing and basically run for my life.

He didn't identify himself and she had no idea who he was in plain clothes. Seems the guy was already in take down mode and had tough guy on his mind. What a messed up situation.

Boston Accountant,

The story said he was in plain cloths. Not in uniform & displayed no badge. You're first sentence is also very idiotic. Pfffft!

she's an angel she never done anything wrong she has a family. I'm calling BS living in the neighborhood where everybody is SGT. schultz ( I see nothing ) probably constant law enforcement action which is typical of these areas she knew exactly what she was doing getting involved in a situation that don't concern her. she deserved to die for her actions & anybody else that does the same.

Regardless of what some eye witnesses might say, the physical evidence says it all, she got what she deserved.

How does the physical evidence say that? Was he walking toward the car and firing? Why was he even approaching her to begin with? There are way too many questions to say she got what she deserved.

Look at the video Sheila, that concaved window didn't get that way on its own, looks exactly like a windshield looks after a body hits it.

I like how some people didn't even bother really reading the article. For example, Will Tell You says, "A guy with a gun ,no badge, tries to stop a woman in middle of a street ,in a neighbor hood" Whereas the article says,

"Officials said Border Patrol agents were serving a felony warrant in the area when Alvarado allegedly intentionally tried to run over an agent. Alvarado was not the subject of the warrant." She hit the guy first. He did not initially approach her.

I would love to read comments by people who actually bother to read what's written.

@ Devils Son

How does she have 3 aliases? Her name is Valeria "Monique" Alvarado, also known as Valeria Tachiquin. So Some people call her by her middle name and sometimes she uses her husbands last name. If someones name was Robert but people called him Bob is that an alias? An Alias is a made up name. Stop trying to make her seem more sinister than she really is.

As for them saying that she mowed the guy down, until they say what his injuries are I'm going to go on what eye witnesses who dont have their career reputation on then line have to say. It makes less sense to me athat a mother of 5 who has no connection to the person this guy was after would hit him with her car than it does for me to think that she was backing up and didnt see him, he got mad and pulled his gun, she freaked out and he fired his gun. I've accidentally thrown my car in the wrong gear a few times or have gotten flustered in a situation and accidentally hit the gas instead of brake....and I didnt have an non-uniformed person waving a gun in my face.

In this day and age you cant blame someone for not keeping their wits about them when they see a gun thats not attached to a badge. Its been happening to often lately so ppl now have it in their head that when you see it you get out of there ASAP and dont try to rationalize whats going on.

The jerks who edit the NBC News articles strike again!!! It only looks like conflicting stories because NBC has failed to clarify the timeline.

The witness accounts say that the shots were fired as the woman was in reverse, but that doesn't mean she never carried the agent several hundred yards on her hood before that point. No cop would be so stupid to make up that whopper of a story with so many witnesses around. And notice how those witnesses says that the woman MAY HAVE STRUCK the officer "out of panic"????

So we have shots being fired as she was in reverse but we also have confirmation that the agent was struck with the car at some point. Which means that she must have struck the officer, carried him a little ways on her hood then backed up again...

It doesn't matter if it was out of panic or anger, or any emotion. You don't run someone down that is trying to serve a warrant. You don't run someone down with your car. PERIOD!!!

If I had been the agent who was on the hood of this woman's car and I saw her back the vehicle up again, I would be thinking she was going for round 2 and would not think twice to fire at her myself. A car is a dangerous weapon and the longer she was operating it the less she can be perceived as "harmless".

I'm (not really that) surprised to hear that so many of the commenters on here didn't read the whole story... got about as far as her name and immediately decided she was guilty based on something that should have NO weight in this case.

It doesn't matter if it was out of panic or anger, or any emotion. You don't run someone down that is trying to serve a warrant. You don't run someone down with your car. PERIOD!!!

This agent was in plain clothes, brandishing a gun, and telling her to freeze. What would YOU have done in this situation? Whether or not she hit him on accident trying to flee, or ran him down, I'd be doing one or the other if someone was pointing a gun at me and I didn't know it was an officer. We don't really know what happened... with all the shootings these days, especially in poor neighborhoods, she might have thought she was mowing down a gang member.

For some reason I don't buy the Border Patrol's story... why would a mother of five try to run over an officer, knowing she'd probably get killed? Are they going to offer a motive? And why are there no witness corroborations?

U gotta gun, did you read this part from the witnesses?

"Witnesses believe Alvarado may have accidentally struck the agent and panicked when he told her to stop and pulled out his gun"

Well, you did say you would believe witness testimony over a cop.

lolly1192: And if you did that in plain clothes while not displaying a badge you would be a murderer, just as this BP agent is. She lives in a neighborhood where there are probably lots of stupid people with guns and there was nothing this agent did to discern himself from the other trigger-happy, gangster morons: he was in plain clothes, not a "wife-beater and jeans" like some other sarcastic POS stated but a red tee shirt and jeans.....no flak vest, not ICE jacket with the big, white identifying letters, no badge on his belt, nothing (according to the pictures.)

As to if she hit him or why she hit him, you can't ask a corpse so we'll never know, but it could've been an accident and there is no indication otherwise. Also, the (I counted 11) 10+ bullet holes in the windshield were fired from the front passenger's side corner of the car, NOT from directly in the path of the car, so that wasn't from a place of imminent danger to the officer. Obviously, and maybe after he got off the hood (if he was ever there, the divot in the windshield could've come from the clipfull of bullets or from a person) he stepped out of the path of the car (as all enforcement officers are trained to do) and fired from the front passenger's side to kill the woman (11 holes in the windshield, once again) so he was NOT in danger, it looks more like a "revenge" action based on that information, not a defense action.

You asked "how can she be percieved as harmless?" which is a ridiculous question: no one can be percieved as such! Not you, not me, not an 80 year old man....how many 80 y/o men have crashed into MULTIPLE people in the last few years? About 15 in California that I've heard of....would it be ok for some trigger-happy azzhat to open fire on them if said moron were stuck in their own head dreaming that "everyone knows who I am in this 'hood and that it couldn't possibly be an accident if I'm hit by a car"?

If you hit someone in a crosswalk (as my sister-in-law did one time) shall they pull out a weapon and give you lead poisoning? I guess you'd deserve it, by your logic especially if they were somewhere near the outskirts of being law-enforcement like ICE agents are. These people probably would've been cops if they could've passed the psychological exams but they're "a little off", so they're ICE.

It's so ridiculous that you keep belaboring the obvious point about it being wrong to "run someone down" in a car while TOTALLY ignoring that no witness, not even the cop with the fake cover story (He wasn't there, BTW), ever said she acted intentionally! Obviously you "don't hit someone with your car" unless you fail to SEE THEM in time, and then you DO sometimes hit person/s with your car and it's called "an ACCIDENT"! unfortunately b/c some trigger-happy moron emptied his gun into this woman, we'll never know, from her lips, what happened before she was gunned down with enough bullets to kill a wild bear while "backing away slowly" according to witness testimony.

Although his legs and arms and everything worked well enough for him to get off the hood (if he was there) stand up, pull his weapon, pursue the car, pull the trigger 11 times, open the door, check the lady's pulse, use his radio or phone to call backup, ambulance, and his Union Rep and then walk to the ambulance, he or his union rep asked he be taken to the hospital: the "transporting to the hospital" was probably more for the news reporters benefit than the ICE agent's health.

This shooting needs VIGOROUS investigation from an outside source, looks like another carelees homicide by someone indifferent to human life not related to them directly, another case of the MANY.

I agree... I couldn't have said it better than Gbaby1. I am ashamed of the paranoia that has set in to both our society and our government... instead of common sense. We will start killing our sisters, brothers, fathers, mothers, aunts, uncles, cousins, grandparents? What is wrong with us. We only know now to kill now. We are below the animals we hunt. ELEVEN bullents... to do what. Stop a car??? How does killing the driver stop the car? Do we even train our agents? Obviously not. OK... so our courts don't allow prior convictions to enter court, but the media is allowed. OK... here are the stats. Look around. One out of every 10 people you see around you have a felony CONVICTION. Every 1 out of 4 people around you have been arrested for a FELONY. SO... many would say it is justifiable to kill every 4th person that is attacked and reacts to a person in plain clothes toting a gun

. We don't really need a police state here... we need to get a grip on reality and quit killing innocent people because they are non-white. We have a real problem here... and killing off over half of our population will be a lot bigger sin than what the NAZI's did to the jews. Yes... caucacian people in the USA have slipped below the 50% level... so get over it. Try to get along for once. Actually grow up and do something positive for your country... instead of always complaining. Yes... you are the problem... it is never THEM... is is YOU.

When the agent said "Freeze" as the "eye witness" reported, it should have been obvious to the driver that this was a law enforcement person! I've never heard of a drug dealer or Citizen Joe yell "Freeze"! And if she didn't speak English well enough to understand what "Freeze" meant, she shouldn't have been driving a car. One other thing: If she was an illegal alien, then how did she get a driver's license? Or, was she driving illegally?

I've never heard of a drug dealer or Citizen Joe yell "Freeze"

You hang around a lot of criminals?

A criminal will say pretty much anything to get to you.

You seem to be pretty naive you might want to be careful.

GBaby: I fully agree with you. I dont buy the CBP story for a minute. It is a bunch of bull. Its a load of crap. It does not make sense to anyone with a real brain in their head. The story doesn't even sound the least bit logical. The eyewitnesses stories makes way more sense than theirs and thats why I believe them one hundred percent over the CBP. The CBP is just trying to cover their asses and clear their agent so he wont be charged with murder in the first degree and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I mean it is obvious the CBP is lying and so many people on here are buying the bull they are selling without even actually thinking. I mean the comments are just ridiculous. The eyewitnesses clearly stated what happend and they still bought the bull that the CBP sold them. Its just crass.

He shot the woman becasue she accidentally hit him with her car and he did not identify himself and he was in plain clothes. He killed the woman intentionally and then spent this bull @!$%# ass story to his superioir officer so he would appear innocent. His ass just didnt want any criminal charges brought against him. He didn't wanna loose his job either. Thats all this bull @!$%# is about. He just wants to be in the clear from the get go knowing damn well he killed that woman intentionally. Hell, there were alot of things he could have done besides pulling out his gun and firing on her several times. He was trying to kill her. And his ass deserves the death penalty. It was no accident. He fired with the intent of killing her.

And another thing windshields can crack like that just from bullets being fired into it. It doesn't necessarily mean she hit him and carried him several feet or that she was going so fast she hit him and knocked him several feet. But she did hit him and I acknowlegde that fact. I just dont believe she hit him as hard as she could and carried him several feet before he pulled out his gun and he started firing on her. I dont buy that bull at all. I believe the eyewitnesses stories. She hit him accidentally and was backing up to get away and he was pissed because she was trying to get away (because she was scared) and he just opened fire. And just because they heard him yell freeze doesn't mean she heard him yell freeze. I mean it is possible that she did not understand what he was saying.

@ Love It or Leave It: Another thing criminals do yell freeze too. Armed robbers will tell a person to freeze and don't move and that they do have a gun. So your post was very idiotic and unrealistic. What world are you living in? You cannot assume that just because an individual yells "freeze, dont move!" is a cop. Especially when that person is in plain clothes and is not identifying himself/herself as an officer of the law you cant assume that. You will be a fool. A real fool. You sincerely need a dose of reality. Because obviously you are not living in it.

I dunno...the two versions are SO DIFFERENT, the truth is probably somewhere in between. MAYBE she hit him hard enough for him to roll up on the hood & smack the windshield, then he rolled off when she hit the brakes, then he stood & pulled the gun, then she panicked & started to back up and he started shooting. That's about the only way I can reconcile the two VASTLY different versions, but we'll have to wait for the investigation. Meanwhile, today some Border Patrol Agents were shot and one of them died -- could that have been in retaliation for this???

hey! i counted "eight" bullet holes!

law Enforcement people seem to be trigger happy!!!

This agent was in plain clothes, brandishing a gun, and telling her to freeze.

and ummm... how many people brandishing a weapon who is not an officer of the law say "freeze"? i also find it very possible this officer stated he was an officer more than one time as he clung for life to the hood of the car. i also find it harder to believe, AFTER he shot and killed her, she was able to run into him with her car, and drive a 1/2 mile or so... there is also more i find hard to imagine going for this womans defence to have me thinks she was involved in some form or fashion other than some "innocent bystander".

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I GUESS MEXICAN FAMILIES DON"T DEMAND ANSWERS WHEN THEY KILL EACH OTHER!

@ U Gotta Gun spelling is important. It lends to credibility and influences the reader's idea as to the level of intelligence of the writer, fair or not.

Reading the stories of how everyone put in the gal's situation would do the same thing. How about the cop? Ever had a job where any little thing you do wrong could result in your death or permanent disability? You'd probably do the same thing there, too. If you got smoked by a car and carried some distance, you'd PROBABLY assume that person wanted to kill you, huh? And if you told the person to stop and get out while they were backing up from you, you'd PROBABLY assume they were gonna take another shot at running you down, huh? Badged or not, cop or civilian, you don't intentionally HIT SOMEONE WITH A CAR and expect nothing to come of it.

I think the American Indian have a claim to California that will dispute the Mayans or the Aztecs.

And the Aztec and Mayans didn't have cars to run poor Border Patrol agents over with. But the Aztecs were cannibals.

How do you know she is legal? Why does her husband need the Southern Border Communities Coalition?

Did you listen to the video clip? The reporter says she was born in the USA, and as I said, her family roots is longer here than all other redneck descendants.

the Aztecs weren't cannibals, they were believers in ritual sacrifices which is why the Spanish slaughtered their whole society,

this seems more like the girl saw a border patrol agent and her first thought was that the agent was going to serve a warrant on some one she knew because it was in her area where she knew people and the family is backing up her actions the same as if she would have survived the encounter.

The agent didn't have time to see if she had a wet back. He was too busy hanging onto the hood of her Latino death wagon!

somestillstupid enough to try and earn a living:

Agreed. George Washington watched American indians gut helpless surviors of battles and knew that the race had to be wiped out.

The Norse were here for a long time.

Settlements in continental North America aimed to exploit natural resources such as furs and in particular lumber, which was in short supply in Greenland. It is unclear why the short-term settlements did not become permanent, though it was in part because of hostile relations with the indigenous peoples, referred to as Skrælings by the Norse. Nevertheless, it appears that sporadic voyages to Markland for forages, timber, and trade with the locals could have lasted as long as 400 years.

Fortunately, Adam and Eve were white so they can claim the entire world for the white race!

Who says they were white?

My comic books!

Menoseeno: You have no clue. If someone invades your home, you have the right to protect it. That is all the Native Americans (First People) did. Go back to your comic books, apparently they fit your intelligence level. There is no proof Adam and Eve were white.

adam and eve were White? Lets see- Adam was in gods image- Eve who knows- they lived in a tropical area- so well tanned at least.

Besides to get right down to it- According to biblical records- we're all from Noah and his sons and their wives due to the Great Flood.

Gridlock,My family has roots here longer than this lawless woman.Whether she was born here or not doesn't matter a whit.She's dead and deservedly so.He's alive and gets to go home to his family at the end of his shift. You hit a person with your vehicle you are supposed to stop,render aid and call 911.At least that is what law abiding people we do in California.

@Menoseeno

Americans demand answers as to why there are 13 million illegals and their spawn in the US stealing resources from the 42% of poor who just happen to be white.

That is a great excuse for killing LEGAL citizens of the United States of America.

She was not the subject of the warrant. She went to Chula Vista High School. There is no indication she is illegal in any way.

You are just a racist.

Cleaning Lady,

You hit a person with your vehicle you are supposed to stop,render aid and call 911.At least that is what law abiding people we do in California.

Ya, Right. Let's see what you do when some guy (in plainclothes) pulls out a gun and starts shooting at you. Or even if he comes toward your car demanding you stop for him. Next time you go by the street corner and see a homeless guy imagine he is the one demanding you get out of your car.

@Gridlock:

Better check your history. Spaniards and Mexicans are not the same, i.e., her roots are not here. Mistake a Spaniard for a Mexican and see how he/she likes it.

Shelly from Portland Oregon

Menoseeno: You have no clue. If someone invades your home, you have the right to protect it. That is all the Native Americans (First People) did. Go back to your comic books, apparently they fit your intelligence level. There is no proof Adam and Eve were white.

Where does the bible say godless American Indians should run things on earth?

There is no proof Adam and Eve were white.

There's no proof they weren't either.

Stephen Nichols

Besides to get right down to it- According to biblical records- we're all from Noah and his sons and their wives due to the Great Flood.

Too bad the Great Flood didn't wipe out the Aztecs. Where do all these godless heathens come from?

JOregon

@Menoseeno

Americans demand answers as to why there are 13 million illegals and their spawn in the US stealing resources from the 42% of poor who just happen to be white.

That is a great excuse for killing LEGAL citizens of the United States of America.

She was not the subject of the warrant. She went to Chula Vista High School. There is no indication she is illegal in any way.

You are just a racist.

Mexicans are stealing US resources and "I'm a racist"???????

@ Menoseeno

Your ignorance is not believable, I think you're just stringing people along.

Biblically, since all of Mankind descended from first Adam and Eve then from Noah and his family whatever race A&E were is irrelevant.

Second she was BORN in the USA. (For some reason I think that would make a good line in a song.)

So what resources was she possibly stealing?

Third, if you get right down to it that part of California was Mexico until the US stole it from them in 1948.

You're just fishing, try fly fishing some time, much more fun than trolling.

JOregon

@ Menoseeno

Your ignorance is not believable, I think you're just stringing people along.

Biblically, since all of Mankind descended from first Adam and Eve then from Noah and his family whatever race A&E were is irrelevant.

The people who advance civilization are the ones who should be running the show. Mexicans are retarding progress in the US with drugs and gangs and 10 kids per family that they dump on American taxpayers.

Second she was BORN in the USA.

So are termites, poisonous snakes, and rabid dogs. That don't make them holier than thou.

So what resources was she possibly stealing?

How is she improving society? Cranking out 5 bandito babies does not make her immaculate.

Third, if you get right down to it that part of California was Mexico until the US stole it from them in 1948.

Why did Mexico sell California to the United States?

Here's what President Grant said:

It is to the credit of the American nation, however, that after conquering Mexico, and while practically holding the country in our possession, so that we could have retained the whole of it, or made any terms we chose, we paid a round sum for the additional territory taken; more than it was worth, or was likely to be, to Mexico.

Menoseeno,

I'm curious to know exactly what resources illegal immigrants are stealing from us.

Menoseeno

You need to spend more time working on your fly fishing skills.

I have 4 kids I guess that makes me a Swedish/English freak in your eyes. I suppose those Mormons must really be slime. My guess is she is Catholic. Old School Catholics happen to have large families. They formed a good part of the backbone of this nation.

The Italians have been great Americans, many of our Firefighters come from Italian heritage. They also have a gang or two related to their heritage. Ever heard of the Mafia?

The Irish have had gangs, the Irish Mob.

Hells Angles are a mostly White organization, as is the KKK.

Bloods, Crips, Yakuza, Russian Mafia, etc. etc. etc. Gangs cover all colors, and heritages.

Ignorant people make ignorant assumptions, you have made a lot of ignorant assumptions.

What are those resources she was stealing? Air?

Nobody has said she was immaculate - neither was your mother.

PrecededByNone

Menoseeno,

I'm curious to know exactly what resources illegal immigrants are stealing from us.

Good question. The biggest problem is how LATINO ONLY organizations have taken over US Immigration. A simple look on the Department of Justice's website for Recognized Organizations and Accredited Representatives Roster proves that these are Latin American run organizations out to flood the US with just one race: THEIR OWN.

Even though the money to those organizations are to help all of the poor in the US and 42% of that poor are white Americans, the non-Latin American has a snowballs chance in hell of receiving any help.

http://www.justice.gov/eoir/statspub/raroster_files/raroster_orgs_reps.htm

When American organizations spend more time helping that one race and ignoring the poor of all other races, it is time for war against the country that leads the invasion against the American races.

JOregon

Menoseeno

You need to spend more time working on your fly fishing skills.

I have 4 kids I guess that makes me a Swedish/English freak in your eyes. I suppose those Mormons must really be slime. My guess is she is Catholic. Old School Catholics happen to have large families. They formed a good part of the backbone of this nation.

I'm a Catholic and I was NEVER taught to burden my neighbors with the expense of raising MY CHILDREN. To do so is theft. It is stealing from my neighbors. Try reading about the responsibilities of parenthood. And how about setting a good example like :

THOU SHALL NOT TRY TO KILL BORDER PATROL AGENTS!!

What a wonderful mother she is.

The Italians have been great Americans, many of our Firefighters come from Italian heritage. They also have a gang or two related to their heritage. Ever heard of the Mafia?

And the Mafia's greatest fear was US Immigration and their ability to DEPORT FOREIGN CRIMINALS. Ask "Lucky" Luciano, the biggest mob boss of his day.

The Irish have had gangs, the Irish Mob.

Hells Angles are a mostly White organization, as is the KKK.

Bloods, Crips, Yakuza, Russian Mafia, etc. etc. etc. Gangs cover all colors, and heritages.

Ignorant people make ignorant assumptions, you have made a lot of ignorant assumptions.

Try doing some actual research. Latin American gang membership is over 80% of the gangs in the US.

What are those resources she was stealing? Air?

Nobody has said she was immaculate - neither was your mother.

The average child cost $$$$$$$ before it reaches the age of 18 and must fend for itself.

$$$$$$ times 5????

Is she and her husband paying enough taxes to support the agencies that look after those bandito babies?

AND being Catholic, my mother sent me to a CATHOLIC SCHOOL and did not burder society.

That is what those Latin Americans, WHO CLAIM THEY ARE CATHOLIC, are supposed to do too!

She should have spent more time looking after her children instead of trying to wipe out the US BORDER PATROL!

Menoseeno

I'm a Catholic and I was NEVER taught to burden my neighbors with the expense of raising MY CHILDREN. To do so is theft.

#1 What makes you think that is what she was doing?????

#2 Every Latino I know works, and very hard at that. One friend is a mover, when things slow down in the winter he will take a night job, often working both jobs and only getting 4 hours of sleep. Another friend is a class 'A' CDL truck driver, on weekends he helps his wife run her housecleaning business (she has grown the business so much she has had to hire others too).

#3 On the other hand I do know some Catholics (non Latino) that receive Government help.

THOU SHALL NOT TRY TO KILL BORDER PATROL AGENTS!!

Obviously something went wrong here, since she was not the target of the investigation there is a very real possibility THE AGENT SCREWED UP. All humans screw up, too many humans don't have the balls to admit it.

Try doing some actual research. Latin American gang membership is over 80% of the gangs in the US.

I'm going to call BS on that one but go ahead cite your source. It is high but "over 80%" BS.

One reason why is high is because young Latino's leave their families to come to the USA to make money. The elders aren't willing, or sometimes physically able, to suffer through the border crossing. Gangs become a substitute family. With the fear of having to go back they can't look to the police for protection so a gang is their protection.

In your post you make a lot of unsubstantiated accusations. In other words it is all BS.

Oregon

Menoseeno

I'm a Catholic and I was NEVER taught to burden my neighbors with the expense of raising MY CHILDREN. To do so is theft.

#1 What makes you think that is what she was doing?????

Latinos make up 8% of the world yet 18% of the US. Aren't they taking more than they are giving? And I want to see how she pays EVERY EXPENSE for those children. It cost over $13,000/yr to send the little rats to the schools in my area. $13,000 times 5 is $65,000 she has just screwed out of US taxpayers. These animals want everybody to feel sorry for them so they can steal poor America's share.

#2 Every Latino I know works, and very hard at that. One friend is a mover, when things slow down in the winter he will take a night job, often working both jobs and only getting 4 hours of sleep. Another friend is a class 'A' CDL truck driver, on weekends he helps his wife run her housecleaning business (she has grown the business so much she has had to hire others too).

This is a question even a child could answer. If these people are so great, why can't they fix Latin America?

#3 On the other hand I do know some Catholics (non Latino) that receive Government help.

THOU SHALL NOT TRY TO KILL BORDER PATROL AGENTS!!

Obviously something went wrong here, since she was not the target of the investigation there is a very real possibility THE AGENT SCREWED UP. All humans screw up, too many humans don't have the balls to admit it.

I've been to Catholic Charities to receive help. Since the organization is now run by Latinos, they have been rejecting aid to Americans. My family has given the church thousands of dollars over the decades and these rats are stealing it all. I've seen Mexicans with brand new cars picking up free food and grant money. But it's OK to steal money if it puts gringos in the grave. RIGHT?

Try doing some actual research. Latin American gang membership is over 80% of the gangs in the US.

I'm going to call BS on that one but go ahead cite your source. It is high but "over 80%" BS.

One reason why is high is because young Latino's leave their families to come to the USA to make money. The elders aren't willing, or sometimes physically able, to suffer through the border crossing. Gangs become a substitute family. With the fear of having to go back they can't look to the police for protection so a gang is their protection.

Try doing the research and stop making excuses for these rats:

http://www.cis.org/ImmigrantGangs

In your post you make a lot of unsubstantiated accusations. In other words it is all BS.

Where is the source of your research? LA RAZA?

Menoseeno

Latinos make up 8% of the world yet 18% of the US. Aren't they taking more than they are giving?

Whites make up up 15% of the worlds population yet 78% of the US. What are we going to do about those resource sucking white folks?

This is a question even a child could answer. If these people are so great, why can't they fix Latin America?

Here is an answer even an idiot should know. Because they don't live in Latin America, they are American citizens. Even if they wanted to they are not politicians, AND here is the biggie - IT ISN'T THEIR FIELD OF EXPERTISE. Just because someone works hard and is successful that doesn't mean they could be a surgeon, or engineer, or city planner, or political wizard. Really, you couldn't figure that out? Wow.

I've been to Catholic Charities to receive help.

And that is the real reason for your hatred, You aren't getting all the handouts you think you deserve.

Often Catholic Charities gives handouts to people that are unable to leave their homes. There is a good possibility the people in the fancy cars VOLUNTEER to take food and necessities to people that are really in need.

Try doing the research and stop making excuses for these rats:

I had already done the research I was just wondering where you got your numbers.

You might want to look somewhere else other than an anti-immigration organization.

Hispanic gangs make up less than 50% of the gang population in the US.

http://www.ojjdp.gov/pubs/96natyouthgangsrvy/surv_6c.html

Trying to get an accurate number just isn't possible, this isn't on the Census questionnaire.

Mexican gangs get much of their income from smuggling people - One way to reduce that income is to reduce the laws restricting immigration.

Here in Oregon much of the Hispanic gang activity is limited to illegal Marijuana grows in the forest - One way to reduce (eliminate) that activity is to legalize Marijuana.

If you really are concerned about the growth of Latino gangs those are two ways to combat that growth.

Down at the bottom of THIS page you will see the numbers for "Race/Ethnicity of Gang Members by Area Type". The following are the numbers for Hispanic Gang percentages NONE are over 50%

Large Cities - 48.1%

Suburban Cities - 43.8%

Smaller Cities - 49.7%

Rural Counties - 30.2%

Too high, but a far cry from your 80%.

It has been fun trolling with you but I don't get handouts and work has been wearing me out with long workdays.

JOregon

Menoseeno

Latinos make up 8% of the world yet 18% of the US. Aren't they taking more than they are giving?

Whites make up up 15% of the worlds population yet 78% of the US. What are we going to do about those resource sucking white folks?

And whites were also over 80% of the dead in virtually every war. Where were the Latinos?

Latinos want to take the place of white people. They envy white people. If Latinos could stand living with each other, they would stay in Mexico. Why do you think Luis Gutierrez lives in a white neighborhood?

This is a question even a child could answer. If these people are so great, why can't they fix Latin America?

Here is an answer even an idiot should know. Because they don't live in Latin America, they are American citizens. Even if they wanted to they are not politicians, AND here is the biggie - IT ISN'T THEIR FIELD OF EXPERTISE. Just because someone works hard and is successful that doesn't mean they could be a surgeon, or engineer, or city planner, or political wizard. Really, you couldn't figure that out? Wow.

Working hard at what????? Five screaming kids makes this woman a saint? A genius? Or just a pig stealing American resources and trying to kill American law enforcement?

I've been to Catholic Charities to receive help.

And that is the real reason for your hatred, You aren't getting all the handouts you think you deserve.

Often Catholic Charities gives handouts to people that are unable to leave their homes. There is a good possibility the people in the fancy cars VOLUNTEER to take food and necessities to people that are really in need.

Check the Department of Justice's Immigration website for all the free lawyers provided by Catholic Charities to LATINO ONLY organizations. Are LATINOS the only people in the world allowed to immigrate to the US??? LA RAZA (the master race) says "Si"!

Try doing the research and stop making excuses for these rats:

I had already done the research I was just wondering where you got your numbers.

You might want to look somewhere else other than an anti-immigration organization.

Hispanic gangs make up less than 50% of the gang population in the US.

http://www.ojjdp.gov/pubs/96natyouthgangsrvy/surv_6c.html

Trying to get an accurate number just isn't possible, this isn't on the Census questionnaire.

Mexican gangs get much of their income from smuggling people - One way to reduce that income is to reduce the laws restricting immigration.

Here in Oregon much of the Hispanic gang activity is limited to illegal Marijuana grows in the forest - One way to reduce (eliminate) that activity is to legalize Marijuana.

If you really are concerned about the growth of Latino gangs those are two ways to combat that growth.

Down at the bottom of THIS page you will see the numbers for "Race/Ethnicity of Gang Members by Area Type". The following are the numbers for Hispanic Gang percentages NONE are over 50%

Large Cities - 48.1%

Suburban Cities - 43.8%

Smaller Cities - 49.7%

Rural Counties - 30.2%

Too high, but a far cry from your 80%.

It has been fun trolling with you but I don't get handouts and work has been wearing me out with long workdays.

Oregon? Wow. I'll bet the Latino's in Oregon have you foreigners really brainwashed. It's called the Stockholm Syndrome. You are identifying with your captors.

BTW: 1996 National Youth Gang Survey??????? Got anything more recent?

Among the findings:

• The growth of transnational gangs has been a dangerous side effect of our failure to control the U.S.-Mexico border and our tolerance for high levels of illegal immigration.
• Transnational immigrant gangs are spreading out across the United States, in suburban and rural areas as well as in established urban street gang environments. We found MS-13 activity in 48 states, Washington, D.C., and Puerto Rico.
• The aliens arrested under Operation Community Shield collectively represent a significant menace to the public. The vast majority (80 percent) have committed serious crimes in addition to immigration violations, and a large number (40 percent) have violent criminal histories (See Table 3).
• ICE gang arrests have occurred nationwide, with the largest numbers made by the offices in San Diego, Atlanta, San Francisco, and Dallas (see Table 1). Some jurisdictions with serious gang problems had just a few OCS arrests, such as Phoenix, with only 81 arrests, and Houston, with 84 arrests. Los Angeles, the gang capital of the nation, had fewer than 300 arrests. These same jurisdictions also had controversial “sanctuary” or “don’t ask, don’t tell” policies on immigration status in place over the time period studied.
• Nearly half, or 3,080, of the aliens arrested over the two-and-a-half-year period studied were affiliated with MS-13 and Surenos-13, two of the most notorious gangs with largely Hispanic immigrant memberships.
• Nearly 60 percent of alien gangsters arrested by ICE were Mexican citizens, 17 percent were from El Salvador, and 5 percent were from Honduras.
• Immigrant gang members rarely make a living as gangsters. They typically work by day in construction, auto repair, farming, landscaping, and other low-skill occupations where employers are less vigilant checking status, often using false documents.

http://www.cis.org/ImmigrantGangs

This is sort of off the subject but I have always wondered why there is a Black Caucus in Congress. Can you imagine the hate that would erupt there if there was a White Caucus in Congress.

So why is there not a American Citizens Coalition aginst illegals in border states for white taxpayers?

Why is Romney white and Obama black but these people are colorless?

Form it, they will come.

Perhaps you could start a club of sorts where everyone wears the same outfits, including the hats. But make sure the leader's hat is different. maybe you could call him something like the Supreme Warlock. And have your meetings at night, too.

Because you're too stupid.

AmericansAtWar

Form it, they will come.

That's what my pastor told me.

Southern Border Communities Coalition a.k.a. COMMUNISTS!

waddadikhed....

how about if she was ur mother or siter u stupid bastard???

who cares...the only people this matters too are the bp and the victims family. all the bleeding heart and anti immigrant crowds are doing is trolling one another. let the family and the agency deal with the facts as presented by an independent investigator. man, unless she was related to any of you, why do you care so much. worry about your own family and problems. and you may want to teach them to not run over people if they aren't sure who they are or what they are there for.

I would take the witnesses in Chula Vista which is,gang infested and where illegal immigrants are the main populations, word with a grain of salt. Chula Vista has homes raided on a weekly basis by the DEA for meth,heroin and marijuana.Ice invades homes there that are being used to house numerous illegals while the coyotes wait for bribe money from their relatives for their release.California should eminent domain the entire town and bulldoze down the homes and businesses.

Hey scumbag, do this country a favor and leave yourself, pig.

Hey, Yolie Scott: (Post 12.1)

And this was from another Los Angeles Native.

SURE, you are.

But...Just because you were BORN here, doesnt mean you're not an anchor baby.

los angeles native, you're a ID10T, first of all. Second it's the liberals from your state that let them keep getting federal gov't help. Why don't you straighten out your state's problems on this crap.

sigh - Not everyone with a Spanish surname is Mexican. And not everyone from Mexico has a Spanish surname. Case in point, Jennifer Lopez, Cameron Diaz - both Americans. And going the other way, Salma Hayek and George Romney - born in Mexico.

You're right on!

They're @!$%#ed up because they're christian and descended from Europeans.

Bailey Quarters was a babe. I was infatuated.

Dang, @Los Angeles Native or should I call you "Sunshine" because your're so bright(ROTFLMAO!)

Someone told you "If it wasn't for Mexicans there would not be any news." and you not only believed them but you also quoted them? Can I sell you some swamp land for $100,000/acre?

Did you tell the "Mexican lady at work" that you wanted her to go back to Mexico?

"They multiply liked crazy"? Well, do us all a favor and don't "multiply" at all!

So he wasn't a snappy dresser.

Yah, he was just going to walk into a know Hispanic gang-banger area all by himself with his uniform on to become a walking target for some stupid a** buster.

What am I saying? He still ended up a target...

kellen miller,This agent wasn't even going after her until she had him on the hood of her car.These guys go there in plain clothes for their safety.Visit Chula Vista someday and you will see why he was in plain clothes.Besides that,he was serving a warrant.

If only......

Do you know the agent personally? If you can't put up what do you do?

re: fREEDOM,,,,,,,YOUR AN IDDIOT!!!!!!!

Get away with defending themselves from homicidal crazies? Yes, I hope they do "get away with it" alive.

Sacrelot,I'll bet she was unlicensed,uninsured or both.

Those illegals use the Border Patrol for targets.

8acrelot

I don't think momma is going to be doing much suing, considering she is dead. Ay least she won't be having any more children that the taxpayers have to pay for.

Leave the country you self righteous, racist pig. Your one of the reasons people have and are losing respect for Americans.

She probably could not speak English! The fed should have yelled,,,,,,ALTO!!!!!

Saying someone needs to be shot is an opinion, protected under free speach and not a crime. Saying you are going to shoot an agent is a threat and a crime...Two very different things...

Get you mind in gear before showing your ass in public...

U Gotta Gun

You're not very bright, are you? Hitting an agent with your car is also a crime, not pulling over immediately is also a crime. Pull tour head out of your ass and pay attention.

Instead of assaulting other's comments, why don't you just shut the fu*k up.

Brian.Great post.

Was she a licensed driver?

The officer was not in uniform. I bet she read better than you do...

I guess all white people better start wearing uniforms.

Read the piece before commenting , because it states he was not in uniform and not displaying a badge .

Cops should be held to a higher standard , if we let them run around without a badge in plain clothes we are going to have more cases like this.

SUKmeBOLLIX,These guys wear plain clothes for reason.Go be a border patrol agent.Bet you couldn't last a week doing search and seizures in drug houses in Chula Vista,where the criminals,mostly illegals out gun our agents.I assure you that this agent shot her as a last resort.

Hey Suk, you are truly ignorant of a great many things. Plain clothes cops always carry a badge. It is either in thier wallet, or attached to a tag chain and inside thier shirt. Plain clothes cops serving warrants (that is attempting to gather intelligence) from a residence IF the person for whom the warrant is for is NOT HOME, so that his posse does not alert him when the UNIFORMED COPS hit his empty house. Plain clothes cops DO NOT DISPLAY THIER BADGES until effecting an arrest.

Under your libtard mentality, CIA, FBI, NSA, and Covert Operators should all wear big neon signs that say, I AM A COP/SPY/SPEC OPS. They are in plain clothes to BLEND INTO the population to prevent crimes, surveillance, and yes spearhead the uniformed calvary once confirmation of a target is identified.

What a completely assinine thing to say. And I will have you know, that most likely sometime in your life you have been in close proximity to a plain clothes officer, who probably would have been the first to stop a crime from being committed against you. But hey, keep hating the cops, the border patrol guys, and anyone else who puts thier lives on the line, protecting your dumb ass.

When I worked Security, a lady called me to one of my sites and cars were racing in the lot, when they saw my car most split but, one decided to take me out. The only reason he isn't dead is because he had his girl friend with him and I knew if I shot him she might die also, he is lucky, if alone, he would have been dead, a car can be a weapon and this guy had every right to defend himself. Good shooting friend:

LA RAZA can stick it up their fart clouged butts.

HA!

Another Trayvon vs. Zimmerman.

or

LA RAZA vs Border Patrol.

The "grieving" husband should be prosecuted to the fullest extend of the law for saying "Whoever shot my wife -- whoever he is – that guy needs to get shot"

My Poor Chillren!!!! They're gonna be RICH!!!!

U Gotta Gun?

U Gotta Brain? It's obvious you hate police or any other form of authority; unfortunately a dolt like yourself could wind up on the jury when the husband of a woman so sweet she tried to run a man over sues. The witnesses in the area all know each other and either fear criminals or are criminals themselves. You should move there; sounds like you'd feel right at home.

If she was backing away from him as the witnesses say then NO ,it was not a weapon .

SUK - you are flat out wrong.

Backing up could still make the officer fall off and suffer head trauma or be run over.

Or how about backing up to drive forward to use the cop as a damned speed bump. But hey, SUK is about intellectually challenged as any doufis that strikes a person with a car and doesn't immediately stop.

I was once pulled up on the hood of a car while a cell-ph-yakking lady was making a right turn on red and I had the crosswalk.

I was also a passenger in a car with a bunch of friends years ago, we were returning from a drive in the mountains, suddeny see a cardboard box on the road and people waving guns, we were terrified, the driver hit the gas and we roared away. I think possibly it was some people making a movie (amateur, this was before "indie" was a word) but really no idea.

I'm thinking this looks like a terrible tragedy. The officer responded as to a deadly threat (car=weapon whether intentional or not, driver panicked).

But the horrible attitudes being expressed are a tragedy themselves.

A lot of these Border Patrol Agents down that way are indeed Mexican Americans.But my question is why are you making this agents skin color an issue? He was in fear for his life and wanted to go home that night to his family like most people.She used a vehicle as a weapon and he used his weapon.Her idiocy cost her, her life.

based on using the term "whitie" ... it's most likely a stupid comment coming from a foreign racist

Oldfaithful............Mexicans can't be US Border patrol!!!! What the heck is a whitie? Are you from Mexico or just stupid????