peanut -- I agree with you. Thing is that BOTH of these groups are giving money for O'Bama's re-election campaign. That's just another reason to vote for anyone EXCEPT O'Bama. We don't want to give him 4 more years to complete the destruction of America. Like all Dictatorial Socialist, history has shown us what happens to Socialist rulers and their redistribution goals like O'Bama (Stalin & Mussolini). But Hollywood is just not based in reality just like the rest of California.

Free Speech only counts when you're protesting gay marriage or mocking muslims, eh?

Joe really? That's all you got? WOW

Please. Like both political parties aren't tied to significant campaign donors.

The problem with energy policies, like fracking, is they are short sighted. They don't satisfy the long term needs. As large as our planet is, it will one day run out of oil and we will have contributed to its degradation in the process.

My former mother-in-law remembers the kids running behind the DDT truck as it was spraying the grass down residential streets. How did THAT work out?

While fracking has it's own ecological problem, namely polluting ground water. The natural gas extracted is less polluting to burn and cheaper to burn than oil and way better than coal. Extracting coal devastates the land when using mountain top removal and that in turn devastates the streams and rivers. It burns very dirty. It is expensive to transport. Oil has polluting problems equal to coal and the additional problem is that much of the world strife is caused by who has it and who wants it. In a free society the free market should be able to choose which is better, cleaner and cheaper. With fracking that choice is not oil a 20th century fuel or coal a 19th century fuel. I am sorry if you make your living from coal but the market is making coal like the 8 track player, yesterdays technology. I come from a coal mining back-round myself. My grandfather, all my uncles, and my father in his younger years were all coal miners in the Schuylkill County, Pennsylvania. At one time there were 100K steel workers in South Chicago. Now it is just polluted empty fields. Things change.

The Right-wing neo-con's in the US,always count on Americans knowing little about world history.That's the only way they get away with the stupid remarks they make.Anyone knowing history knows that Communists and Muslims working together is like saying Jews and Nazis were working together.The Communists and Muslims were always opposed to each other.As were Stalin and Mussolini. But if the right-wingers just throw out those names they figure some no-nothing's will agree with them. I've heard over and over in this election them saying that Obama was a communist and a Muslim in the same breath.I just want to shake my head at anybody falling for that BS.

JoeB: That's more than a little weak. If you believe there's any possibility fracking can damage the enviroment or water table it's hard to blame Obama instead of the party that want's to elimnate regulation.

Joe, you need to go back to school and this time pay attention. The president was elected. Not a dictator. He isn't a socialist any more than you are. Mussolini was a Facist NOT a socialist. He was part of the anti socialist movement in Europe.

The two most socialist countries in Europe have a higher standard of living than the U.S. They have a superior health care system. They have a greater chance to move their citizens from middle class to upper class.

In other words, their socialist democracy is doing better than our socialist democracy. Yeah, that's right. If it weren't for socialism you wouldn't have highways, sewers, public utilities, public waste removal. social security, medicare, police, fire/rescue, a military, public works, the list goes on. These are all socialist things because we pay into them as a social group for the good of all. That is socialism.

I thought you guys liked free enterprise, open markets? These are 2 groups that have teamed up, you know like Bain and AIG, Chase and Wells Fargo, Ozzie and Harriet.

pullmyfinger, socialism also means giving up your all rights to be subject to the socialist republic. And if you dont, it can result in imprisonment. So that means no protesting, freedom to speak, or have ideas that can benefit humanity unless the socialist government approves. That means complete censorship and subjection to socialist republic rule, you might be okay with that. I enjoy my freedoms. The right to believe in God, and talk about it to anyone I want to. And if I want to own a gun to protect my property and family, I can. And if I want to protest the wrong doing of the powerful Socialist people, also a possibilty in this country.

Note: The Pavilion, WY water was recently retested with nearly 0% trace amounts of benzene. I have read that other benzene claims in Texas were made because the test subjects were smokers who by nature of smoking have higher levels of benzene in them.

The scare tactics of the environmentalists don't always pan out like they want them to but you won't hear them admit to being wrong, no sir!

Lets expand our energy output and tell the Arabs that they can eat their oil when they complain that we aren't being such faithful customers anymore. They also will not be able to come here and bomb us because of a perceived wrongdoing on our part.

Why do we keep listening to these Hollywood Environmentalists? Do we really care what a group of bonehead actors think about stuff? If we keep giving in to environmentalists, we'll keep killing jobs over made up bs.

There must not be any good paying roles right now for Matt Damon.He can afford to pay $5.00 a gallon of gas so of course he's on the middle eastern oil producers side.Someday the middle east oil will dry up and the good old US of A will be loaning them money.

No it's not. You can't weigh benefits without taking into account the cost. What benefit does the gas provide if you contaminate your largest supply of fresh water in the process? What does it ultimately cost you in the end? That's the same type of reasoning that a drug addict uses.

Sounds like you don't mind being told a lie, as long as "outsiders" don't try to tell you what to do. Interesting that you don't mind letting Hollywood and the UAE tell you what to think.

mike christain -- you are absolutely right!! If New Yorkers want to sell their land for a few pennies on the dollar, destroy their drinking water and destroy their local environment -- that's their right. After all they can afford to have their drinking delivered and MAY restore s small fraction of the destruction caused by fracking, they got all that money from the "Fracking Corporations". I by no way agree with everything environmentalist preach about (and actually think that holding-up or canceling projects of a spider or snail - it just plain stupid) but I think they have just about hit the nail on the head with "fracking". But if that's what New Yorkers want, that's their decision and no one else's. But don't look my way for drinking water, you can't pay enough.

I see so if you don't live in a particular location that's affected 'mind your own business'. We keep saying the same thing about the wolves here in the northwest but that doesn't keep nosy busybodies out. Just sayin...

HEY JOE.....that is not what us New Yorkers want so take your troll butt out.

I think Joe's point is, go ahead, frack to your hearts content. But when you need to bring in clean water because the ground water is polluted beyond filtration, find it somewhere else and don't drive up the cost of the water for people who didn't want it.

Here's an idea. How about the New Yorkers pass a law that says the people that live near the fracking MUST use groundwater for their households and should a well need to be drilled, the fracking company MUST pay for it?! This way you can have your fracking and your polluted water all to yourself.

Do you remember the scene in Eric Brockovich when they are sitting with the lawyers and they say the water is brought in special just for them from the town? Nobody would drink it. That's how your town will be. Don't be shortsighted.

JoeB's against Obama but opposes fracking. Interesting.

Mike christian,I didn't realize that New York was a separate country from the rest of the U.S.It's not citizen of New York,it is resident of New York. That is unless New York is ceding from the U.S.Do you know something that the rest of us don't?As American citizens we can all voice our opinions and we should all be involved in what goes on in states other than our own.Don't you agree Mike?

Best part of the story was the people who let their town be used:

... Pennsylvania, where much of the movie was filmed who claim they were deceived about the filmmakers intentions.

You see Mr. Mayor, we're just going to be filming here and we'll put the town in a good light. You took the money, deal with it.

Also, we really should be getting all of our information from that bastion of honesty, The Heritage Foundation./s

Scar - and the answer is: None. They dont' care because if you examine the extreme core of the environmentalist you will find an individual who thinks that anything people do to the earth is wrong. Their ultimate vision of a perfect world would be one with the human race extinct.

Hot Air.

I think a typical environmentalist is one who is never happy with anything regarding energy or pollution.

Nothing is good enough, even if they got their utopia, they would still find something to whine about.

Remember back at the kyoto conference, the saudi's wanted compensation if the world reduced its use of oil. And I thought Chutzpah was a hebrew word.

And people wonder why the US refused to sign onto the Kyoto accords. They were and still are a joke.

If a fat check is involved I'd let them frack in my backyard but the greenies in California would probably have me thrown in jail for treating my property as I saw fit.

Well said and sane, vs. the insanity of the wacko asurdly anti-petro wackos.

it's not about not using our own resources. It's about an obsession with the dirtiest most environmentally destructive methods people choose, and in the end that's driven by easy profits for a very very very few. You would sue one of your neighbors for causing the same types of problems in your community, but you rally behind the very rich and actually encourage them to do the same to you. Find one of these rich guys who wants to live around and be exposed to the same things they try to intice the general public into living with!

If these dictators dont get their oil money, they'll have to tax their population who will then want a vote about how its spent. No representation without taxation. ;) Btw, same concept applies to foreign aid-dependent countries.

I remember some earthquakes there back in 79. Well before major fracking. They're just not big enough for anybody to bother with unless you've got people trying to turn them into propaganda.

We had small earthquakes here in PA way before any gas drilling was even thought of. These people are looking for any excuse to try and make us a dependant on foreign oil.

"Synonym" works for me. ;)