Former Manson follower recommended for parole after 40 years

California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation / AP

Bruce Davis, formerly a follower of Charles Manson, has been recommended for parole after 40 years in prison. During that time, he received a master's degree in philosophy and religion, which factored into the parole recommendation.

Former Charles Manson associate Bruce Davis, who was convicted of murdering two men, has been recommended for parole, KTLA.com reported.

The California Parole Board recommended parole for Bruce Davis, 69, at his 27th parole hearing, finding that during his 40 years in prison he had a record of good behavior and had earned a master’s degree in philosophy and religion through a correspondence course.

Davis was convicted alongside Manson for the 1969 killings of Gary Hinman, a musician, and Donald Shea, a stuntman who lived with the Manson crew who was nicknamed “Shorty.” Davis is serving two life sentences. His crimes were unrelated to the murders of pregnant actress Sharon Tate and six others.

He has been in prison since 1972, The Associated Press reported. Los Angeles County Deputy District Attorney Patrick Sequeira opposed his release.


The governor will have to approve, deny or modify the parole board’s recommendation; in 2010, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger rejected a recommendation that David be released.

Manson, 77, remains in prison.

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He murdered 2 men. Enough said? 40 Years is not enough for killing 2 people

  • 95 votes
#1 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:18 PM EDT

what Journalistic amateur wrote this heap of crap? is the guys name David or Davis ? Get me someone who can remember what they wrote a paragraph later. WTH? ..........starts out David then turns into Davis then goes back to David.

  • 16 votes
#1.1 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:32 PM EDT

It'sDavis

  • 8 votes
#1.2 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:33 PM EDT

No WAY should he be free !!! He did the crime/ got convicted/ do the time. Parole ? Are you kidding me??? The people that were killed are STILL DEAD !! HE Should STAY where HE IS AT ! He should be with THEM!

  • 52 votes
#1.3 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:50 PM EDT
Comment author avatarKaylaInWisconsinExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

I pretty much gotta' figure old moon beam is going to grant it. And if he wants to, he can get a sex change surgery paid for by the taxpayers of California. Then there's an oBama phone, food stamps, social security.....

  • 27 votes
#1.5 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:58 PM EDT

And isn't the system great. He got all those degrees on our tax payer dollars while I am disabled and our wonderful gov is garnishing my social security check for a student loan. I guess I should have murdered someone and let you all pay for my degree and then get parolled for the sick @!$%# I did

  • 58 votes
#1.6 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:59 PM EDT
wire557Deleted

Hey Slanky, don't forget the forty years of free medical, dental and vision, then of course free room and board and god know what else...

  • 31 votes
#1.8 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 9:24 PM EDT

Most here will disagree, but this guy has done FORTY YEARS. The worst thing the Parole Board can do to this guy at this point in his life is release him. With no family, no friends and little or no support on the outside, he will be going from a "safe" secure structured environment where he knows how to survive, to the WORLD, that will be a cold, foreign, environment he will be lost in. Prison can change a man's idea of "freedom" very quickly; it can change a man's idea of security even quicker. Then to pull that out from under him at this point in his life may very well be more than he can deal with. The only thing that may save his ass is his association with the Manson Family and some theatrical agents intent to make money from his experiences. Otherwise, he is going to die a lonely, lost, old man, who would have rather stayed right where he was.

  • 16 votes
#1.9 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 9:27 PM EDT

Manson and his followers that committed murders should NEVER be free. They chose to commit murders and can never take that back, keep them ALL in prison!

  • 26 votes
#1.10 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 9:31 PM EDT

If released he should be required to stay( inhouse tether ) with those who voted for his release. Rotate 1 month in each household for the rest of his life. That way he can spread his philosophy and religion among those that believe in him.

  • 21 votes
#1.11 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 9:31 PM EDT

He should be able to get out and live a normal life when the 2 people he murdered can do the same!

  • 33 votes
#1.12 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 9:49 PM EDT

Daniel Calc-2569926, I know that you cannot be this naive, go back watching the Shawshank Redemption and leave the real world to the adults.

What a load of crap - this guy is not "Brooks", he is a visicous murder, Boo Hoo "this guy has done FORTY YEARS", like celebrity child molesters Victor Salva, Shane Sparks, Roman Polanski, Martin Weiss, Fernando Rivas, Jason James Murphy, Chris Stokes and celebrity cop killer Mumia Abu-Jamal, this piece of scum will become another darling of liberal hollywood telling the sad tale of his life, making money off the two people he murdered. The ONLY way this guy should leave prison is feet first.

  • 24 votes
#1.13 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 9:57 PM EDT

Just as that female killer that had cancer and they wanted her released, no. If she got a life sentence, then that is what she should do. A life sentence. That means no matter how you die, you die in prison. Same with this guy. He got two life sentences, too bad we canot keep him there two lifetimes. He is kept there until he dies. That is his sentence.

While I agree, he's been learning philosophy and religion, and he IS 69 (69 year old men don't usually commit crimes), his sentence was life in prison. That's what he gets.

  • 19 votes
#1.14 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 9:58 PM EDT
Comment author avatarJohn Collins-5713739Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

now that sounds like USA of obama smoke a joint they put u in for twenty or thirty kill someone well see you in a couple years

  • 8 votes
#1.15 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 9:59 PM EDT

The CA prisons are overcrowded and they need to make room for more illegal Mexicans. Sure the liberal potheads in this bankrupt state will let him go. They have no brains left either..........

  • 8 votes
#1.16 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 10:04 PM EDT
wire557Deleted

I do believe that alot of prison inmates are home grown USA Americans not illegals.

  • 7 votes
#1.18 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 10:15 PM EDT

To...................Daniel Calc-2569926

regarding your comments.......YOU make all these assumptions about who this guy is, how he feels, AND what's going to happen to him for the rest of his life.

YOU don't know jack sh*t! about him. Stop talking like an idiot!!

  • 5 votes
#1.19 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 10:18 PM EDT

This is for all of the vengeance-seeking, lynch-mob, frontier-justice characters out there. The man has served FORTY YEARS! That's MOST of his adult life! He has paid his price! Twenty years is the equivalent of a life sentence, and he has served two of those. After paying his price, atoning, and educating himself, he deserves his freedom! Don't like it? Sorry!

Our nation - YES, the USA - has a far higher percentage of our citizens incarcerated than any other nation on earth, including North Korea, Iran, China, Iraq, Vietnam, Yemen, Laos, Saudi Arabia, Myanmar, etc. Our approach to criminals and justice is totally ridiculous. A man can atone and pay for his crime, and you still want him incarcerated. An innocent man can be executed and you cheer, although well over 100 have been released from death row after being found innocent by DNA!

Folks, this is a serious problem in our nation! We are missing the attributes of forgiveness, compassion, kindness, mercy, empathy and sympathy. David of the Bible committed both premeditated murder and adultery, but God let him remain as King, and used him to write much of the Old Testament, and stated that David was a man after God's own heart. Saul, of the New Testament, presided over the murder of Steven, but was called by God Himself, changed his name to Paul, became a great preacher and wrote a large percentage of the New Testament. God says in Matthew 5 that the merciful are blessed and shall obtain mercy! We need to develop into an advanced civilization, become educated, modify our behaviours, and change our attitudes to something more humane and less savage and medieval!

ALL of the Manson people should be released IMMEDIATELY, except Manson himself, who should serve at least 150 years!

  • 8 votes
#1.20 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 11:00 PM EDT
wire557Deleted

E K .............you are full of shlt.

  • 9 votes
#1.22 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 11:13 PM EDT

EK, your compassion is commendable but completely misplaced. What about the victims? The phrase 'paid his debt' suggests one can pay a debt of murder. What's the going trade for murdering another human? 40 years? So I can kill pretty much your entire family any way I desire as long as I pay my 40 years 'back to back'?

But the thing many miss when they say one has paid their debt is the fact that in fact they didn't pay anything. WE paid their debt. Think about the fact that the average cost to house a prisoner is $150/day. Over 40 years WE paid out roughly one million, eight hundred eighty eight thousand to house this guy. ONE guy. We didn't spend it on the handicapped, energy research, college tuitions, nope, we housed a guy who murdered two others. Now you're saying we owe him his freedom? He owes two lives and over a million dollars in my book. He'll never be able to repay any of that. He should have been shot in the head the day he was found guilty, then, forgiven with all the compassion you can muster for being so callous and stupid as to have no regard for any other human life but his own.

  • 9 votes
#1.23 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 11:23 PM EDT

Bruce Davis should die in jail. He and Charles Manson were in continuous company with each other during the Mansons apocalyptic cult reign where they committed multiple murders. Davis always contended that he was just a bystander. For three days......right! He participated as did other Manson cult followers to torture Gary Hinman for 3 days until Hinman was finally fatally stabbed in the chest after having his ear and face continually slashed and kept prisioner in his home by Bruce Davis and Charles Manson. And it's ironic that he got a Master's degree in Religion. It seems not much has changed for this man, the reason Manson and Davis were at Hinman's house was because they knew he had inherited money and was planning a religious Pigramage to Japan. He held Shea down while Manson and other family cult members stabbed him to death as well. Davis, Manson, Krenwinkel, and Van Houten do not deserve the right to freedom. They should never be allowed to live among society and should all die behind bars.

  • 15 votes
#1.24 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 11:35 PM EDT

So, if you kill two people in cold blood, you get a free master's degree in philosophy and religion, but if you're a law abiding middle class citizen, you get a boatload of student loans to pay off your education the rest of your life.

What's wrong with this picture?

You know, I would vote for just about ANY candidate that would get serious about prison reform.

  • 10 votes
#1.25 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 11:37 PM EDT

i agree with the others he needs to stay where he is at

once a killer always a killer once a child molester aiways a child molester

i went to school with tex watson and same goes for him

god forgives but people do not let them rot in jail

  • 4 votes
#1.26 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 11:40 PM EDT

How much good behavior is needed to make up for taking two lives? God forgives however consequences may not change. I think ANYONE who is released out of prison with a college degree that they earned while there should also be given a student loan that must be paid back just like every other person who has not been in prison. Why should s/he be given a free ride? How backwards has how government become?

  • 2 votes
#1.27 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 12:23 AM EDT

He's an idiot now!! We don't need to fret. He was a dope back then, and now he's lost and forgotten... His life will always be about what he did to people. He won't have anything....

I almost feel sorry for him, except, he killed people and didn't care. He's a SAP and an idiot who is likely to be used again.. Sorry for people that get used and have no life except for the idots that surround them.

Sorry dude! You were a dope before and now you're a dope on parole! Hope you do something good.... That would astound anybody who knows you for the idiot killer you are!

Maybe something good can come from you, but you're the worst and it's late in the game for you now.

Hopefully, you'll help Americans grow and learn. Teach people who the sleeze are and what to look out for. That's your life after prison! Welcome to it you sociopathic piece of linguini! You're nothing but a noodle until you do something special.. Don't blame us, it was all YOU!!

    #1.28 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 12:33 AM EDT

    You want to blame Obama for the release of SCUM BAG?!!

    YOu're a bigger idiot and Republican than I've ever seen! Congratulations on blaming a 1960's crime on the Obama Adminstration! You're not just a huge Republican fool, YOU'RE THE BIGGEST REPUBLICAN FOOL EVER!!

    VOTE OBAMA IF YOU LOVE LIFE! If you hate it, vote Obama anyway, because we don't like cleaning up after Republican pigs that have no thought for anyone (just like a criminal)!!

    • 1 vote
    #1.29 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 12:39 AM EDT

    So do any of you that are commenting have any idea, do you have the first clue of the devastating impact doing 40 years in prison has on a person???? Really, do you????

    There is no excusing taking a life, but how long do you want to pay for this man's incarceration? If you haven't already, keep him in there for much longer and you will be paying an even higher cost when his health starts failing him and it will. If you have any idea of what they are fed in there, his health will fail and at YOUR COST!!!

    Is it possible that he just might be able to get out and start making some kind of atonement for his crimes in the form of repaying some of the taxpayers cost back by becoming a responsible tax paying citizen himself? Or is that what scares you, that someone whose done 40 years in prison for a heinous crime committed in his drug hazed youth might be rehabilitated or are you so full of hate that you don't think its possible?

    The lives he took can never be replaced, but it just might be possible that he could do them some kind of honor by trying to lead a productive life with the little time he has left.

    Just remember, there by the grace of God go I, or your son, or your brother or your father or your husband. Just when you think it could never happen to you, it could happen to you or do you simply want to turn a blind eye to the thousands that have been unjustly incarcerated?

    Before you go running off at the mouth about something you know nothing about you should start learning what really goes on in our so called justice system.

    And a previous poster was right, the US incarcerates more of its population than any other country in the world. That should get your attention right there. What is wrong with us when this is the only solution, lock them up and throw away the key and forget there is any humanity that might remain. Yes there are those who should never see the light of day again, but that does not apply to them all!!!!!!! OMG!!!!!!

    • 5 votes
    #1.30 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 1:37 AM EDT

    While I agree that Bruce is a questionable risk for release, I wish you all would take a minute to listen to yourselves. Many of you sound like you don't even think of him as human, like his life doesn't deserve any consideration at all. Gee, that's the same way he felt about his victims. The only difference is he actually helped kill them. Do you really wish to do the same to him? How much do you want to model your attitudes after Bruce Davis's?

    • 5 votes
    #1.31 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 2:08 AM EDT
    wire557Deleted

    don;t be a hypocrite if he would have killed any of your family members or your close friends you would

    change yor whole way of thinking

    no hes not human he;s a MONSTER.

    • 3 votes
    #1.33 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 4:45 AM EDT

    Jim and Lkendric have finally posted and demonstrated that some of our citizens are humane and can show the milk of human kindness. Thank God for them! I would imagine that both have a decent education and rather high IQs. Yes, the man is a human, and forty years is more than adequate for what he did!

    Poor Wire would make a good partner for Nancy Grace if he could clean up his language and express himself as a civilized and educated human should.

    MovingOut, the man paid with 40 years of his life! In most civilized advanced nations, the primary purpose of prison is NOT lynch-mob vengeance and frontier justice! For example, Norway has a maximum sentence of 20 years that can be given for any crime. He paid with not being able to have a spouse, a home, children, employment, etc., for 40 years, the major part of his effective life! Yes, he killed two people, or at least assisted in their murders, but he has atoned for that, and he is a human! Forty years of total forfeiture of all freedoms is the payment he made! Look, you either kill them immediately as they do in Saudi Arabia, China and other nations, or you give them some hope to redeem themselves and have freedom again at some point in the future. Will you be moving out to China or Saudi Arabia?

    Usa1967, it seems you have described your dinner! Hope you enjoy it! How do you prepare the stuff as dessert?

    • 2 votes
    #1.34 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 5:18 AM EDT

    Just make sure when he is released that he is living next to the IDIOT who released him..... He shuold have been FRIED years agao instead of released now.....

    • 1 vote
    #1.35 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 5:38 AM EDT

    @ Daniel Calc..

    Why is it that people either make excuses for others or know exactly how they feel. Trust me this is not Shawshank Redemption where someone does not know what to do when they are released from prison. The best thing is to KEEP this murderer behind bars until the day he dies, period!

    • 2 votes
    #1.36 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 6:16 AM EDT

    E K Kadiddlehopper,

    Anyone that uses Religious rhetoric to have this person released is delusional. Based on what your faith ( Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence.) This should be based on Law and the facts, not fictional beliefs. I can just see you in Court "God says to release him and forgive him." Who are you to say what person should be released or not? He got life twice for murdering two innocent humans. Thank whomever that does not let you be in charge of anything since you base everything on something that is not factual. You want to release criminals just come out and say it and not use a God as an excuse.

    • 1 vote
    #1.37 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 6:33 AM EDT

    And isn't the system great. He got all those degrees on our tax payer dollars while I am disabled and our wonderful gov is garnishing my social security check for a student loan. I guess I should have murdered someone and let you all pay for my degree and then get parolled for the sick @!$%# I did

    You are free to leave this country at any time. This isn't Cuba.

    • 2 votes
    #1.38 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 6:44 AM EDT

    You had me until you said "he found religion". Isn't that what he thought he found in the '60's?

    • 3 votes
    #1.39 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 8:40 AM EDT

    So much for all those "Christian" values this country supposedly espouses...wasn't there some passage or other about the price of hypocricy?

    Anyway, it's fascinating to me how shallow those values are, when the real measure of whether you are true to your beliefs isn't for the times when it's easy, but when you have to look someone like Davis in the eye and be a "real" Christian.

    Truly pathetic, all of you.

    • 1 vote
    #1.40 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 10:06 AM EDT
    wire557Deleted

    He's got that great education, courtesy of the state, let him stay and pay back his 'student loan' by working with his fellow inmates!

    • 2 votes
    #1.42 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 10:44 AM EDT

    I agree with the majority of the comments. The people he killed didn't get a chance to live their full lives. This guy shouldn't either. Got an education in prison...great....been a model inmate....great....let him continue to be and maby he can educate prisoners who are not serving life sentences, perhaps he can rehabilitate them so they can make something of themselves. BUT IN NO WAY SHOULD HE BE RELEASED!!! 2 LIFE SENTENCES!!!!!! LET HIM SERVE THEM OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • 4 votes
    #1.43 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 10:52 AM EDT

    Guillotine ! Guillotine !!

    • 1 vote
    #1.44 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 11:33 AM EDT
    wire557Deleted

    he has been in prison for 40 years and that's enough?

    I bet the two people he murdered wished Davis had given them a 40 year sentence instead of a death sentence. For the terrible crime of being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

    • 1 vote
    #1.46 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 12:59 PM EDT

    Someone mentioned that the USA has more people in prison than China, North Korea, Myanmar etc.

    Do you know why? Because those countries execute people without even a trial.

    Two days ago there was a ferry boat collision here in Hong Kong. They arrested six crew members and the captain. A local Chinese friend of mine said they were lucky they were not in mainland China or else they would disappear and probably already be executed. No time for drawn out trials and long prison sentences. No money for that either.

    USA gives people due process and trails by jury with opportunity for appeal and parole.

    • 1 vote
    #1.47 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 1:00 PM EDT
    Reply

    WHAT????? It doesn't matter if this guy had a good record with degrees. He should stay in even though his murders were not related to the Tate murders. Anything or anybody related Manson that is already in prison for MURDER should stay behind bars until their bodies rot.

    • 33 votes
    Reply#2 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:18 PM EDT

    I personally recommend him being hung, drawn, and quartered. And as violent as that sounds, it's benign compared to the malicious murders he committed!!!

    • 3 votes
    #2.1 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 9:56 PM EDT

    The guy is a shadow of himself... He looks like a vagrant on the street with huge problems!

    Good luck finding any work and any life! You'll never be anything except a killer and felon. We welcome you to America. A place where people like you feel like fools amongst the living!!

    That's your HELL!! And you're welcome to it! You'll always be the pig of Manson, a boy who manipulated people to do childish things for childish reasons!!

    Isn't that great for you, you pig of a person!!!?

    • 2 votes
    #2.2 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 12:50 AM EDT

    considering the nature of the murders commited, he should stay behind bars. Just because he is old does not make him any less of a threat. Why take the chance of another murder

    • 2 votes
    #2.3 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 1:35 AM EDT

    I can only imagine how the families of the victims feel....

    • 2 votes
    #2.4 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 2:37 AM EDT

    Probably got his degree for free. Paid by our tax dollars while us students are forced to repay thousands.

    • 3 votes
    #2.5 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 3:42 AM EDT

    Let him wax philosophic about why he's a murderer while he rots in prison.

    • 3 votes
    #2.6 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 11:43 AM EDT

    I can see parole. just don't feed him until his victims have had their meals?

    • 2 votes
    #2.7 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 3:14 PM EDT
    Reply

    Geee, I wonder who paid for the 2 Master's degrees? A student loan perhaps?

    • 33 votes
    Reply#3 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:19 PM EDT

    Us tax payers

    • 13 votes
    #3.1 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:50 PM EDT

    He was a big enough idiot to get nothing out of it except, "MIND CONTROL"!

    Now maybe the church can make him a bigger idiot with no thoughts of his own.. I guess that's safe, isn't it?

    It's disgusting, but perhaps safe..

    • 1 vote
    #3.2 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 12:52 AM EDT

    Dave, reading your posts, I wonder if there is anything you don't hate?

    • 1 vote
    #3.3 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 6:29 AM EDT

    We did. Along with his room, board, and entertainment. Yay us!

    • 2 votes
    #3.4 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 9:22 AM EDT
    Reply

    Pelosi should let him stay at her house considering he`s reformed.

    • 27 votes
    Reply#4 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:19 PM EDT

    What an idiotic remark.

    • 16 votes
    #4.1 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:27 PM EDT

    Why should he even be considered for parole, let alone recommended! I don't care if he gets a PhD in sand box, I don't care if he is knitting afghans for little old ladies. Lock him up and throw away the key. After all, who wants this guy for a neighbor???

    • 21 votes
    #4.2 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:34 PM EDT

    Jefferson,Indymaverick did not make an idiotic remark. Pelosi along with Boxer and Feinstein are the liberals who made California what it is today,one big failure.

    • 15 votes
    #4.3 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:39 PM EDT

    I don't think an "idiotic remark" requires someone of your stature to lower your self to our level. You tend to forget(Just like Pelosi). This guy wasted 2 human's. Could care less about your views, why not ask the 2 people he wasted as to their thoughts, oh I'm sorry I forgot, their still dead. I really think you should keep your mind to yourself. Now I'll get you going, man I would do Piglosi, she's hot for 70 years old and has no clue or could remember that I did her. Sometime when you get back to the real world, all this other BS aside, this guy killed 2 people and because he was in prison, the government of California paid for his master's degree's. I bet that he even gets better health and dental care than you or me. Boy, you guys in California are something, to think I was born and lived there, I just wouldn't believe this would happen in my home. Guess that's why I retired in New Mexico, I understand why my friend says "California is the land of fruits and nuts". What happened, oh what the heck why don't you parole Manson, I'm sure he's reformed too. Thanx, And Have A Nice Day.

    • 6 votes
    #4.4 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:52 PM EDT

    To Jefferson; what indymaverick said is dead on to me. And I have a small disagreement wth Just A Cleaning Lady, Boxer belongs in the same cesspool as Pelosi, but in the last 10 years atleast Feinstein has urned into being more like Ms. Snowe from Maine. I would ask if you live in CA and if you do, how long have you been here. I have a real problem with granting this guy parole. Sharon Adkins was up for parole and had less then 6 months to live. She had family who wanted to care for her in those last 6 months. She had been a model prisoner from the day she entered prison. She did much good for the other women prisoners. If any of Mansons people were to be paroled, it should have been Sharon. The state would have eliminate expensive medical care that they had to provide until the day she died.

    • 2 votes
    #4.5 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 10:07 PM EDT

    Ginny,Feinstein is a joke who the unions in California have bought and paid for.I'm a native and was a union member.I know of which I speak.

    • 2 votes
    #4.6 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 10:42 PM EDT
    Reply

    let him die locked up

    • 20 votes
    Reply#5 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:19 PM EDT

    Make him live with GW Bush.... The only man who never cared about the American public!!

    That's Justice!!!

      #5.1 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 12:53 AM EDT
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      Comment author avatarMcGriff-1474581Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

      good, lets start saving some money. 40 years is enough

      • 4 votes
      Reply#6 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:20 PM EDT

      Would you say that if he murdered your children?

      • 21 votes
      #6.1 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:30 PM EDT

      Some things are more important than money. Like the life of the two murdered men. I say no--don't let him out.

      • 16 votes
      #6.2 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:35 PM EDT

      I believe in forgiveness. Would I request to view every parole hearing? yes. Each case is different. I still believe in the courts decisions.

      Also, would I say string him up on a tree branch if it was my son was found guilty of murder? HELL NO...Your kid either!

      • 3 votes
      #6.3 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:38 PM EDT

      McGriff,Then go to the parole board and let them know that he will be residing with you.

      • 9 votes
      #6.4 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:40 PM EDT

      wow nice comment. good debating techniques!

      • 2 votes
      #6.5 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:42 PM EDT

      McGriif

      You confuse forgiveness of a crime with not making him pay for his crime. I can forgive someone for stealing from me, but he still has to pay me back. BTW - the only ones that should be allowed to forgive Davis are the ones that he actually hurt, the families of the murdered. In my opinion, they are the ONLY ones that should have any say if can be given parole.

      • 10 votes
      #6.6 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:49 PM EDT

      Not only no but f@&* NO!!

      • 4 votes
      #6.7 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:52 PM EDT

      I agree with you Ken Trout, the families are the living victims. Absolutely. Parole Board needs their consent. Agree 100%

      • 4 votes
      #6.8 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:54 PM EDT

      Oh yeah, lets parole his so he can get SSAN and Medicare. That's all I need, pay for some scum that California that can't afford, so we have to pay for him at the US level(us taxpayers). So while this guy killed 2 people and California feels that he's been reformed over 40 years, now you put the US Government has to pay for his old age. S-H-I-T I've paid into SSAN and medicare since I was a teen, now this guy gets what I've paid for honestly for about 2/3's of my life and this guy killed 2 people and didn't contribute to SSAN and medicare. S-H-I-T, why did I even bother being honest and defend our country. Could have got a free ride if I didn't change my ways, and I could have had 3 meals a day and a roof over my head instead of paying for it. Thank you for your opinion. And Have A Nice Day.

        #6.9 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 9:09 PM EDT

        Who's going to answer for him if he murders someone just to get back into the secure environment he grew to rely on in prison? No death penalty to worry about, parole is no deterrent, and job prospects and a normal life are a pipe dream with all he has working against him. Besides, he's generating income for the corporate prison system due to states shirking their responsibility.

          #6.10 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 6:02 AM EDT
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          All you need is a tall tree and a short piece of rope. This would have been settled long ago. Wonder how many millions of tax payer dollars have been spent on this guy?

          • 15 votes
          Reply#7 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:20 PM EDT

          Death penalty costs more money then prison for 40 years. Lets stop spending money on this guy, I'm broke over here paying these taxes!

          • 3 votes
          #7.1 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:24 PM EDT

          .22 shells are cheap. Pennies a piece. One, and done !

          • 12 votes
          #7.2 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:29 PM EDT

          McGriff,The death penalty does not cost more.That is the propaganda machine of liberals speaking.California overwhelmingly voted for the death penalty but all the liberals in charge are trying to have their way by not invoking it.The polls show that most Californians are going to vote to keep the death penalty in this state.

          • 7 votes
          #7.3 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:42 PM EDT

          are you serious, look at the facts not the newspapers. The stats! 47k to house an inmate in CA per year. This guy abused the school deal - i'll grant you that cleaning lady, but seriously - DP costs much more than that...the .22 casings guy will beg to differ tho

          • 3 votes
          #7.4 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:47 PM EDT

          McGriff,It only costs more when the state refuses to execute people who are sentenced to the death penalty because they are against the death penalty.AS long as more of these people sit behind bars it will cost more than the death penalty.Look into the ages of those behind bars in California.

          • 2 votes
          #7.5 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:55 PM EDT

          Why are we still supporting any of them

          • 2 votes
          #7.6 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 9:31 PM EDT

          The death penalty does not cost more to incarcerate criminals, the problem is the Governors let them sit there for 40 years, spending money to keep them, instead of executing them. I'd love to see a law that gives them one year to file an appeal, if they haven't they are executed, if they have filed an appeal, and are not successful, then execute them within 30 days of the denial of the appeal.

            #7.7 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 10:44 AM EDT

            The high costs of death row is because they wait YEARS to carryout executions while multiple appeals are heard costing tax payers.

              #7.8 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 11:13 AM EDT
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              Beyond the Manson association. He committed two (2) murders, has two life sentences.....Why would he even be considered for parole? Ask the family members of the victims before any consideration.

              Anytime someone takes a life, they are forfitting that life as being of no consideration (Unless it is self-defense)....why should they consider their own life to be an exception? The people he murdered didn't get a choice.

              • 19 votes
              Reply#8 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:21 PM EDT

              If these 2 men are alive again by all means parole him. Otherwise let him die in prison

              • 17 votes
              Reply#9 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:21 PM EDT

              Two life sentences and he's going to get parole? WTF? So much for justice in America. He should have gotten the death penalty

              • 18 votes
              Reply#10 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:21 PM EDT

              The guy is a vegetable now.. He's a religious freek now... I think that's more scarey.... Let's execute him before he lays his mind control on other people with no thought of their own..

              We don't need idiots! We need educated people that actually learn in college! Religion is the route of ALL EVIL in the end! It's proven through time, history and local politics! There are still mind control freaks in all of society... And that's who just got out!! A mind control FREAK!! Just like all of you regarding the God you say is real... That's American by the way!! One sided religious poo-poo!

                #10.1 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 1:00 AM EDT

                He follows the 10 commandments now... He's a religious man....

                Now you see where it sucks!? You should!

                  #10.2 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 1:02 AM EDT
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                  Crazy! So hes wonderful now because he has a degree or two and he didn't actually kill Sharon Tate? He was put in to serve 2 life sentences and I don't think 40 equals 2 lives! Really, California is sick!

                  • 13 votes
                  Reply#11 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:22 PM EDT

                  I'm glad that he's had a clean record since he's been in prison for killing two men, however...it's unfair that he's earned a Masters on the taxpayers dime. Meanwhile I struggle to go to college and pay my student loans. How fair is that?

                  • 13 votes
                  Reply#12 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:22 PM EDT

                  Loopylou,It's not fair but the U.S. rewards bad behavior.

                  • 7 votes
                  #12.1 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:43 PM EDT

                  just a cleaning lady is totally correct, I feel bad for giving this advice, but why not kill 1 or 2 people and you'll be taken care of, plus your student loans will be forgiven, as like him you can now go for your masters and the state of California will pay for it, plus you'll get free medical and dental. I think that's gonna be better than Obama Care. I have to close for now, not because I tired(wish) but because I'm pissed again with the state and us governments, who think they know best while they take our money(taxes, land grabbing, etc.). And can afford their lifestyles with our money. Sorry, Danny

                  • 2 votes
                  #12.2 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 9:41 PM EDT

                  danny,Don't be sorry.I'm taking my irritation and disgust to the polls in November.I'm voting NO on revoking the death penalty in California and any proposition that costs tax money is also getting a big fat no from me.

                  • 1 vote
                  #12.3 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 10:45 PM EDT

                  just a cleaning lady

                  We may not agree in other threads, but on this subject, we are twins...

                  • 1 vote
                  #12.4 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 11:21 PM EDT

                  no i don,t think its fair that he gets parole,

                  innocent people have been wrongly executed for less.

                  • 1 vote
                  #12.5 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 4:27 AM EDT
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                  How does two life sentences not add up to at least one ?

                  • 15 votes
                  Reply#13 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:23 PM EDT

                  To commenters #1 thru #12

                  Each of you expresses a narrow and hateful view. Why do we even call it "Department of Corrections" if a person has no reason to correct himself?

                  • 6 votes
                  Reply#14 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:24 PM EDT

                  OK Don...when he corrects himself by bringing to life the people he murdered, then he can be paroled.

                  • 13 votes
                  #14.1 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:29 PM EDT

                  Don,Anyone who murders another human being shouldn't have been drawing a breathe for 40 years after that type of crime.

                  • 5 votes
                  #14.2 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:45 PM EDT

                  I agree, let's just kill them all, as close as I can figure 8 to 9 will be right, sorry if your one of the 1-2 .

                  • 2 votes
                  #14.3 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 9:44 PM EDT
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                  its sad when the life of the person who was killed becomes meaningless. he killed two people and should never be let out.

                  • 10 votes
                  Reply#15 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:25 PM EDT

                  WTF??? I don't give a @!$%# how many degrees this murderer got!!!! Murder should not have parole. Period!

                  • 11 votes
                  Reply#16 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:26 PM EDT

                  wow, 27 times this guy has been considered, why? what's wrong with the folks that recommend these dangerous folks go up for parole? If I was whacked out on some hullicenigenic and killed people, I would never want or expect to ever walk free. It would be narcissistic of me to think otherwise.

                  • 9 votes
                  Reply#17 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:26 PM EDT

                  I am surprised that a review is necessary. MURDER is MURDER. The ones are still deprived of their lives, families, and the enjoyment of their years of getting older. No matter how "wonderful" any of the Manson family has been through the years, they must remain where they were placed by a court of law. Remind all that the only reason (except for appeals out the ying yang that would have happened..) these people are still sucking government funds behind bars is because California, for a few years, suspended the death penalty. In my opinion, when it was reinstated, their penalties should have been reinstated also. Let God sort em out.

                  • 9 votes
                  Reply#18 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:27 PM EDT

                  Definitely

                  • 1 vote
                  #18.1 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 9:51 PM EDT
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                  HELLLLLL NO.

                  Either execute him, or throw him in a cell with Manson to spent the rest of their lives together. When one dies, leave the corpse in there until the other one dies.

                  Why should that bastard go free when he killed two people ?

                  • 10 votes
                  Reply#19 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:27 PM EDT

                  Nobody gives a hoot when a non-reformed gang member comes out after 6 solid, but this old foggie is deemed a threat

                  • 2 votes
                  Reply#20 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:28 PM EDT

                  Sorry kid, I give a S-H-I-t, if your a gang banger, you got to pay the price, don't give a S-H-I-T. Not sure what 6 solid stands for(I'm kinda old now). But if it's what I think it means, 6 is too short, think those guys belong with Mason and his morons. Only thing I hate is we're choosing for the lesser of 2 evils, would just rather toast them than let them get back into society where they can recruit people for their gang to kill other people's kids and think they're smart and a welcome home. Course, I'm old and I really don't think my opinion counts. Really don't think there is an easy answer for this, just feel sorry I can't figure out how to help. Oh forgot this was for McGriff-1474581, I'm so sorry but the Flex is kicking in finally, blew out my back bout 6 months ago. Sorry that's no reason to bail, just wish I could help somehow, but being wasted all the time is not an answer to a solution. Sorry, Danny

                  • 1 vote
                  #20.1 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 10:11 PM EDT
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                  Helter skelter bring back any memorys, Sharon was a friend of mind do another 40 and rot in hell..?

                  • 6 votes
                  Reply#21 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:28 PM EDT

                  the article says his convictions had nothing to do with the Tate Murders. He wasn't there.

                  • 3 votes
                  #21.1 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:38 PM EDT

                  Tish. It all correlates to the murders of Tate and La bianca, plus a few others...His involvement is still relevant to all of them.

                  • 5 votes
                  #21.2 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:49 PM EDT

                  what Journalistic amateur wrote this heap of crap? is the guys name David or Davis ? Get me someone who can remember what they wrote a paragraph later. WTH? ..........starts out David then turns into Davis then goes back to David. One persons comment...Sorry for the spelling error..And my mistake.Mind/mine..? Perhaps it's God..Perhaps Whoever he killed talking to me from the grave...! Where ever he was/or will be..Really has no relevance..To the fact..He's a murder...! I myself.. thinks What will be will be.?

                    #21.3 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 9:18 PM EDT

                    Opps, is that the pot calling the kettle black ? Sharon was a friend of mind ????

                    Sharon and the crew were were doing some drugs that night, is this also a result of the above rants ?

                    As were all the girls involved in the killings. They were very young and under Manson spell. They are

                    never going to get out of prison, so I don't think this guy will either.

                    What would any of them do on the outside now? The world has changed a lot in the past 42 years.

                    • 1 vote
                    #21.4 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 9:38 PM EDT

                    Inestwo,Sharon Tate was pregnant and not doing drugs.These middle class girls following Manson were not under his spell.they were under the influence of drugs .They wanted to do the drugs and not lead productive lives.None of his followers were foster care kids or kids of felons.I have no sympathy for any of them.

                    • 1 vote
                    #21.5 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 10:49 PM EDT
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                    He was a murderer in 1972 and is still a murderer. He should never be let out, make him serve his two life terms in prison never let him out. Why should he be free when two people are dead for no reason? I feel the Gov. of CA should not allow this to go any further ever. Anyone can get a preachers license in the mail, but that never means they are really changed. There is a good chance he won't live long on the outside anyhow.

                    • 7 votes
                    Reply#22 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:28 PM EDT

                    I can't believe he got a two degrees on the taxpayers dime! I struggle to work and go to school and have a student loan. He sits in prison and gets a masters for FREE?? AND he killed two people. What a joke! Prisoners should not be allowed to get college degrees! OR parole after getting two life sentences!

                    • 10 votes
                    Reply#23 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:29 PM EDT

                    YUp!

                    • 2 votes
                    #23.1 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:31 PM EDT

                    Wow!!! Isn't this just sweet!!! Look what our government does to people who kill.....they get to have everything handed to them on a silver platter!!! Two degrees??? What you got to be kiddin me.... When my son and I as lots of Americans do.....have to pay and pay and pay with no assistance on help to go to college and have to get loans.....WOW!!! Do we need REFORM or what!! Our system is so messed up its just pathetic....so what REAL punishment do these people really get....looks like to me they get LOTS....and all free our the American tax payers $$$$$$.......Well Romney or Obama...we need help with this NOW.....

                    • 2 votes
                    #23.2 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 10:31 PM EDT

                    He's been in there long enough. He did the crime and he also did the time. Let him go, keeping him in jail is just wasting taxpayers money.

                    • 2 votes
                    #23.3 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 11:16 PM EDT

                    Don't like paying the taxes? Vote to get rid of prisons...or deal with it! This man is a murderer, has been and always will be. What if it happened to your family? Walking down the street one day, and you happen to run into him while he's laughing, enjoying the fresh air. Wouldn't it make you sick? Wouldn't it piss you off? Yeah I'm pretty sure it would. STHU you don't know what you're talking about.

                    • 1 vote
                    #23.4 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 9:21 AM EDT

                    You are wrong! Prison should be about rehab not just punishment. Europe enforces rehab, the US punishment, Europe has 1/3 the crime rate per capita then the US. Does that not tell you something? I hate how Americans are always blood thirsty for revenge.

                      #23.5 - Sat Oct 6, 2012 11:58 AM EDT
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                      Ask the victims' families if he should be released.

                      • 3 votes
                      Reply#24 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:31 PM EDT

                      How in the hell is someone like him allowed to obtain a masters? We have good citizens STRUGGLING for a college degree and this a$$bag has one? In no way should he be allowed out. This is rediculous to set him free into society.

                      • 7 votes
                      Reply#25 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 8:32 PM EDT

                      This man murdered 2 people,our taxes kept him,gave him a master degree,now they want to let him go free?? Him and manson should have been put to death years ago!!

                      • 2 votes
                      #25.1 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 9:24 PM EDT

                      It is amazing how backward our penal system is. He received a Master's degree in prison after he took the life of two people? My Masters degree cost me over $100k. What a joke. Put him in a cell and lock away the key!!

                        #25.2 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 4:35 PM EDT
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