LAPD chief: We'll stop holding some undocumented immigrants for feds

Days after California’s governor vetoed a bill that would have let local authorities ignore federal requests to hold undocumented immigrants for possible deportation, the Los Angeles police chief has decided he won’t comply with the requests in low-level cases.

Police Chief Charlie Beck said Thursday that he had to craft a program that would serve his community.

"It strikes me as somebody who runs a police department that is 45 percent Hispanic and polices a city that is at least that, that we need to build trust in these communities and we need to build cooperation or we won't be prepared," the Los Angeles Times quoted Beck as saying.


Out of 105,000 annual arrests, the Los Angeles police get about 3,400 requests, known as detainers or holds, from Immigration and Customs Enforcement, The Los Angeles Daily News reported.  The holds are part of the Secure Communities program, in which the FBI shares fingerprints of those arrested with federal immigration authorities, who determine if the persons are legally in the U.S. or if they can be deported due to a criminal conviction.

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Immigration advocates say the holds cast a wide dragnet that has ensnared even those who had committed minor crimes or no offenses at all. But ICE has said the program was instrumental in helping enforce immigration laws and in getting violent offenders off the streets.

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Los Angeles Police Chief Charlie Beck: "Community trust is extremely important. It's my intent that we gain that trust back."

“The LAPD is proposing to no longer grant an ICE detainer request without first reviewing the seriousness of the offense for which the person is being held as well as their prior arrest history and gang involvement,” according to an LAPD statement.

The department was developing a list of criminal offenses, such as public nuisance and low-grade misdemeanors, that in its view don’t meet the program's intended purpose.

Under the LAPD’s new proposal, those arrested for low-grade misdemeanors won’t be held for ICE unless the person had a prior felony arrest or was a documented gang member. The person also won't be held without additional information from ICE. The police will still honor detention requests on felony and high-grade misdemeanor arrests.

About 400 ICE requests annually could be ignored under the new policy, Beck said, adding that City Attorney Carmen Trutanich had informed him that police could legally refuse to honor ICE detainer requests, according to local media reports.

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Beck said he believes in some cases, the detentions have unnecessarily split up families, Reuters reported.

"Community trust is extremely important," he said. "It's my intent that we gain that trust back."

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Late Sunday, Gov. Jerry Brown vetoed the Trust Act, controversial legislation similar to what Beck has opted to do. Beck said his new rules, which he hopes to implement by Jan. 1, were in the works before the governor’s veto, the Daily News reported.

In his veto message, Brown said he could not sign the bill because under it, “local officers would be prohibited from complying with an immigration detainer unless the person arrested was charged with, or has been previously convicted of, a serious or violent felony.

“Unfortunately, the list of offenses codified in the bill is fatally flawed because it omits many serious crimes,” he said, adding that he would work with lawmakers to improve the legislation.

Several counties and cities have enacted ordinances that limit police cooperation with federal immigration authorities, The New York Times has reported.

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ICE says it prioritizes the deportation of those who present the most significant threats to public safety, and that it has deported more than 147,400 convicted criminal undocumented immigrants, including more than 54,200 individuals convicted of violent offenses such as murder, rape and the sexual abuse of children, under the program.

“Over the past three and half years, ICE has been dedicated to implementing smart, effective reforms to the immigration system that allow it to focus its resources on criminals, recent border crossers and repeat immigration law violators,” ICE Deputy Press Secretary Gillian Christensen said Friday in a statement to NBC News. “The federal government alone sets these priorities and places detainers on individuals arrested on criminal charges to ensure that dangerous criminal aliens and other priority individuals are not released from prisons and jails into our communities.”

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Shame on you, Beck! You've betrayed your country. This is the job of ICE to decided who will be deported, not your LAPD.

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Reply#54 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 5:45 PM EDT

I am appalled to hear that our own law enforcement will not "enforce" the laws of these United States. I agree that the LAPD Chief should be fired and tried for treason. Reporters, please stop referring to illegal aliens as undocumented immigrants. If you review the legal terms you will find that illegal alien is the proper nomenclature. Using the word "immigrant" when referring to illegal aliens is a slap in the face to all of those folks who came to this country legally and can rightfully be called an immigrant.

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Reply#55 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 5:53 PM EDT

Great! I hope if I ever get arrested for a crime that I will have a sympathetic police dept. who will just give me a pass and turn me loose. Stop Federal Funds to L.A. and all cities who ignore the law.

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Reply#56 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 5:58 PM EDT

That is just grand, all the Mexicans in the USA, will now move to California. Who will we get to clean our pool, mow our grass, and suck up all the @!$%# inTexas !

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Reply#57 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 6:10 PM EDT

Gee! Why doesn't this jerk just do what he is paid to do.Arrest and jail all people who his officers see breaking the law or who has been determined from facts to have broken the law.There should be no arbitrary enforcement of laws based on personal preferencec.I think I should never get another ticket and if I do and refuse to pay the fine,if caught,I should be allowed to go free.Try that exception first,at least,,it will effect someone living here legally and how pay taxes that pay your bloated salary!

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Reply#58 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 6:22 PM EDT

It may become necessary ...

    Reply#59 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 6:22 PM EDT

    >ICE says it prioritizes the deportation of those who present the most significant threats to public safety,

    Oh bull@!$%#. My wife was no threat to the community whatsoever. Quite the contrary.

    It's ICE iteslf and the needlessly meanspirited body of law they administer that's fatally flawed and needs to be fixed.

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    Reply#60 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 6:25 PM EDT

    How would they know if the person arrested wasn't a murderer running wild amoung the populace! Hell recind all the gun control laws and let everyone own a gun.Then fire about half the police and require the remaining officers to never write another ticket or stop a car driving irratically.Next,cut loose all criminals and every man for himself.The remaining police can be used to clean up the dead bodies.

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    Reply#61 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 6:27 PM EDT

    screw la cut off the federal funding and the water used for pools and lawns.oh yea when the big quake comes no federal clean up moneylet the ilegals that they kept clean it up.

    why not let them become their own country?

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    Reply#62 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 6:32 PM EDT

    Well if we are going to fire the police chief, why not Obama? He is allowing illegals to stay here by executive order. Isn't that along the same lines?

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    Reply#63 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 6:36 PM EDT

    Another police chief ignoring our immigration laws. I hope this brings another 10 million illegals to L.A. Sign em up to vote and go bankrupt faster. Enjoy! There is no hope for California.

    • 2 votes
    Reply#64 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 6:46 PM EDT

    Wow, even cops are liberal pieces of garbage. We need to find someone in California that has enough guts to do they're jobs.

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    Reply#65 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 6:57 PM EDT

    Police Chief Beck, if he embarks on this policy, is himself breaking federal law and is liable for prosecution. If he doesn't obey the law, the next time that I'm in Los Angeles I will personally put you under citizen's arrest and turn you over to the federal authorities.

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    Reply#66 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 7:12 PM EDT

    ILLEGAL is illegal. in man and GOD's laws: all willl pay the price of eternal damnation....soon
    Thus if our government has established one law for us and NO LAWS for our Criminal Illegal Alien The Race=666=LaRaza Invaders not only welcoming them: but rewarding them
    THEN I BEG the ATTORNEYS:
    to ask how you can apprehend US Citizens and prosecute us...?
    Can you TRAITORS and gutless wonders from the "sanctuary cities" READ
    Equality under the law...the illegals are not under your jurisdiction; we are...thus apply our laws: or go to the US Mex Border and take the place of our youth being raped, home invasions and torture by gangs...you are beyond reproach and should sacrificed your wasted coward selves. How can you cowards sit at a dinner table with your families and eat food stolen by deceipt?
    Meanwhile, did you watch the Debates: The kenyan god king declared job of Feds..."safety" I feel off the couch laughing what an idiot...ROMNEY missed the question: so that is why the USA-Mexican Borders are wide open and you told the US Border Patrol Agents to "stand down" "use bean bags!' and you are sending US Military around the world to be disposed of so they can be replaced by LaRaza=666=The Race ills, aka illegals, illegitimates(over 90% births) does not a nation make!
    Dial #2 for Spanish the Dems when VP Biden was Senator voted TWICE against making English our official language.
    They will be haunted for their TREASON WITHIN no matter how they manipuate the elections with FRAUD...
    DREAM ACT illegals illegitimates donated by thievery...US D E A D M I L I T A R I E S seats in our USA's Taxpaid UNIVERSITIES> what an achievement: not other nation rewards its INVADERS...while disposing of its sons, daughers fathers mothers, uncles, aunts, grandmothers and grandfathers as Military...around the GLOBE..
    EVIL vs One Nation UNDER GOD>>>Harbinger warned direct from GOD...the hour glass is running...

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    Reply#67 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 7:12 PM EDT

    Fire this A-HOLE and if 45% of the police are hispanic and won't enforce this countrys laws then they should be fired or held as armed agents of another country. Abraham Lincoln did not let slavery stand because wanted to keep trust in the southern states..either enforce the Law Charlie or quit and find a job that dosen't require you to be in a leadship management role and serve under this nations laws.. this is the USA not Mexico..

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    Reply#68 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 7:12 PM EDT

    May the day arrive soon that all those who would sacrifice a law abiding US Citizen while bending backward to aid and abett sedition against the nation they sit upon...be hung...for TREASON: this President has declared war on us dba the USA by attacking our States which are attempting to protect themselves...according to man and GOD's laws. Yet there are those who bow to him and actually think the Kenyan with his lst disbarred female care about them. What a desperate need of displaced affiliation..Federal Immigration and Nationality Act
    Section 8 USC 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv)(b)(iii)
    "Any person who . . . encourages or induces an alien to . . . reside . . . knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such . . . residence is . . . in violation of law, shall be punished as provided . . . for each alien in respect to whom such a violation occurs . . . fined under title 18 . . . imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both."
    Section 274 felonies under the federal Immigration and Nationality Act, INA 274A(a)(1)(A):
    A person (including a group of persons, business, organization, or local government) commits a federal felony when she or he:
    * assists an alien s/he should reasonably know is illegally in the U.S. or who lacks employment authorization, by transporting, sheltering, or assisting him or her to obtain employment, or
    * encourages that alien to remain in the U.S. by referring him or her to an employer or by acting as employer or agent for an employer in any way, or
    * knowingly assists illegal aliens due to personal convictions.
    Penalties upon conviction include criminal fines, imprisonment, and forfeiture of vehicles and real property used to commit the crime. Anyone employing or contracting with an illegal alien without verifying his or her work authorization status is guilty of a misdemeanor. Aliens and employers violating immigration laws are subject to arrest, detention, and seizure of their vehicles or property. In addition, individuals or entities who engage in racketeering enterprises that commit (or conspire to commit) immigration-related felonies are subject to private civil suits for treble damages and injunctive relief.
    TYPE OF BEHAVIOUR ENCOURAGED BY VIOLATING OUR IMMIGRATION LAWS:

    A holding house for illegal immigrants is busted in Escondido. Just blocks from the Escondido Country Club, nothing appears unusual about the home where investigators say dozens of people were held against their will. But on the inside, court documents show, some windows were boarded shut and the doors were locked with wires to prevent people from escaping. "That's really sad. It's really disturbing that it's right here in my neighborhood, says the suspect's next door neighbor Shannon Deaton.
    .

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    Reply#69 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 7:19 PM EDT

    Remember the Alamo and Remember Goliad

    They are at everyone's doorstep now along with JIHADIST White House appointed to Homeland Insecurity with the fat butt dyke Traitor...watching us..

    and then we have the incoming poison from Communist China...while they build up their billion person army ...and own us..

    Lawyers are liars...and both parties have brought us to the brink...of our own destruction..

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    Reply#70 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 7:21 PM EDT

    Charlie needs to be relieved of duty. Charlie Beck is the senior law enforcement, lets repeat that LAW ENFORCEMENT, officer in Los Angeles. If he refuses to the job for which he was hired it is time to get rid of him. I swear this Country has gone insane. Since when do you allow people that have broken our laws and crossed our borders to be granted more power than the citizens??? There is not another Country in the world that would allow this. Why do these officials even bother to take an oath to uphold our Constitution and it's laws? Not a one of them honors their oath! But I also have to wonder when the citizens of this Country are going to say ENOUGH and put a stop to this madness.

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    Reply#71 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 7:25 PM EDT

    Madness is correct, it's absolutely the most insane BS I've ever heard in my entire life. We are now witnessing the demise of America and the complete destruction of the constitution and everything it USED to stand for.

    We have Obama to thank for walking into this gang banger paradise. He has no touch with reality at all.

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    #71.1 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 7:29 PM EDT
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    This is great, now that so many of these anchor babies and amnesty illegals are now cops they will stop deporting illegals or even prosecuting illegals because they are somehow more special than everyone else and deserve a break for crossing the border illegally.

    In the mean time the low life Mexican gang bangers in LA are running the entire city with threats of death and destruction to anyone who doesn't pay them off. It's a Mexican gangster paradise for them, they even had a special on HBO about it. Coming to a city near you very soon.

    What a perfect little wetback utopia we have created for them, I'm sure the Bleeding heart Liberals and Obama are so proud.

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    Reply#72 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 7:26 PM EDT

    Chief C. Beck/LAPD; Get up off your knees and stop using a
    tube of Chap-Stick everyday. Better yet, its time to retire down to sunny corrupt Mexico.

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    Reply#73 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 7:54 PM EDT

    Being here illegally, having no job, unable to house, unable to feed and sick isn't good enough to get you deported! Stealing won't get you deported! Assault won't get you deported! Drugs won't get you deported! How much money does California have? Is it really able to take care of millions of illegals without costing Californians a dime?

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    Reply#74 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 8:00 PM EDT

    Not enough money and it isn't cheap. You might ask why the State is in such deep financial straits. This type of nonsense is part of the answer.

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    #74.1 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 8:33 PM EDT
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    I'm pretty sure Beck would be breaking Federal law if he actually did what he's grandstanding about, and, since the governor vetoed the bill in question, he won't even have the protection of the state, for what it's worth, if he's does so. Refusing to hand over a fugitive illegal alien in his custody for deportation could be construed as aiding or abetting an illegal, which is a felony (INA 274A(a)(1)(A)), that could net him 5 years in prison.

    Either Chief Beck is just grandstanding for the press or he's an idiot. Another reason to avoid LA, in any event...

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    Reply#75 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 8:05 PM EDT

    Simple. Fire him. A police chief who won't enforce the law is worthless.

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    Reply#76 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 8:30 PM EDT

    Police Chief Charlie Beck should be fired for failure to uphold the laws of the country. Is the very thing you are hired to do. You are not hired to pick and choose which laws you are going to uphold or to be an accountant for the city.

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    Reply#77 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 8:49 PM EDT

    What he's doing may be a Federal felony - aiding and abetting an illegal alien. He could and should go to jail.

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    #77.1 - Sat Oct 6, 2012 12:54 AM EDT
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    about fnn time, I for one am so glad we've quit discriminating against undocumented beaners. It's not their fault their country sucks. Free education, food and health care, it's the least we can do. Any one want to organize an ACORN trip so we can get these unfortunate undocumented beaners registered to vote! You say illegal, I say unregistered democrat. Hells Yeah! California putting human rights first, America? F You.

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    Reply#78 - Fri Oct 5, 2012 8:54 PM EDT
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