Denial is a river in Egypt. Come clean Jerry. At least you will be locked away with an ounce of respect.

Nothing this creep does will have me give him even an ounce of respect. This guy is vile! Anyone who harms children in any way deserves all the bad they get!

Jerry and everyone else with Penn State.. coaches, players, students, alumni.... all act as if Penn State is the center of the world... that they are incapable of evil... that they didn't do it..... it must be a conspiracy... we don't deserve to be punished...

that's a lot of arrogant BS...

Dear oldhamletman: Yeah, couldn't agree with you more. The arrogance of Penn Staters didn't just happen yesterday and Joe Paterno let that arrogance get in his way, his subordinates and his higher ups.

"He's going to say that he's innocent..."

Innocent of what?

Those boys told the Court what happened, and Sandusky refused to testify in his own defense when he saw that his adopted son was standing by to validate everything all of the other boys said, so I wouldn't say he's "innocent" of the charges upon which he was convicted.

If Sandusky was "innocent" why didn't he take the stand and testify to his "innocence" under oath?

Now Sandusky wants to "proclaim" his innocence when he's NOT under oath, and when he cannot be cross-examined by his accusers.

Prepare for the worst? "The worst" has already happened; Sandusky perpetrated it upon innocent children and Penn State let it continue to happen. The worst is over. The best, aka sentencing Sandusky to life in prison, is yet to come.

Instead of Dottie going to the sentencing..she should go to Costco and buy a 30 year supply of Vaseline and a 30 year supply of mouth wash...he's going to need it!

HAVE A HAPPY JERRY.....in prison until your DEAD!

You have great ideas! Wow, flogging! Hadn't thought of that one. Whatever his punishment is, it simply won't be enough. All the testimony against him and he still claims he's innocent? He's either mentally ill or an incredibly arrogant SOB -- or both.

LMAO..innocent..guess its not his fault his penis isn't connected to his brain!

Thinking he's going to be vindicated ... indicates he should have pleaded INSANITY!!!!!!!!

Ya, he was crazy about that young boy stuff. Baleif whack his pee, pee off, nuts and all.

@Mike277 -- "Instead of Dottie going to the sentencing..she should go to Costco and buy a 30 year supply of Vaseline and a 30 year supply of mouth wash...he's going to need it!"

Man, none of the prisoners want that old, dried up a$$hole. They want young, fresh meat, just he did.

Asian bamboo is hard to come by in PA. Asian Re-bar is quite plentiful, however. Just sayin'...

What do we expect him to say! Of course he is not going to admit it! He hid it all these years why would he tell all the people that idolized him for so long and burst his little perfect bubble all the way! At least he has his wife buffaloed! He is so totally disgusting he should be just put out of our misery and his own! I can't stand to look at his face or hear his name! The scary thing is how many more are there right this instant doing the same thing to some other child??? That poor little girl that went missing on her way to school the other day is still missing! These people need to be lined up and shot and if they have procreated we need to do something about there children because these sick twisted behaviors are usually inherited!!!

Cant wait to hear the news about him getting raped and shived in the shower.

Jerry and everyone else with Penn State.. coaches, players, students, alumni.... all act as if Penn State is the center of the world... that they are incapable of evil... that they didn't do it..... it must be a conspiracy... we don't deserve to be punished...

that's a lot of arrogant BS...

Agreed! He must think he's pretty high-and-mighty to believe that it would be worth the trouble of contriving an elaborate conspiracy just to put a college football coach in prison for no reason. Guess what Sandusky? Outside of Pennsylvania, no one gave two @!$%#s about you, most people had never heard of you, and even in PA, no one cared enough about you to go to all that trouble. You could have died a local legend, maybe. But now you're a national disgrace.

He's Kidding, right? I can't believe after everything that has occurred he could even hope anyone would believe this tripe! Grown men do not take showers with young boys as part of any regular school curriculum I am aware of, nor can I even imagine the number of people who would have had to be involvedto perpetrate and perpetuate such a conspiracy. Enjoy you time in prison Mr. Sandusky, you earned it fair and square!

He is in a serious state of denial, like so many other sports figures before him; Pete Rose, Roger Clemens, Barry Bonds, and now Jerry Sandusky. What is it with these idiots?

Wait. I thought he died?

AMENDOLA IS LYING! Not that it would be any surprise, but I have inside information from a cohort that even he suspects the guilt of Sandusky. This makes me even less inclined to think well of the legal profession. I'm very, very happy that these jurors did not allow themselves to be swayed.

Mr Amendola, you should be ashamed of yourself.

@oldhamletman No one at Penn State believes that Sandusky is innocent. I don't know where you got this idea, but you should look around before you make assumptions like this one. The PSU community hates this guy just as much as, if not more than the outside world does. Your attacks on the school and the community are really quite irrelevant to the subject of this article, which is the fact that Sandusky and Amendola (NOT PSU) maintain Sandusky's innocence. In fact, if you had read the article, you would see that Sandusky partly blames Penn State for the alleged "conspiracy" against him.

Furthermore, your inclusion of "students and players" as members of the guilty party is preposterous. The students and players were in grade school when these crimes occurred.

"They can take away my life, they can make me out as a monster, they can treat me as a monster, but they can't take away my heart,"

Can't take what you don't have.

Innocent? A conspiracy? Of course. What OTHER possibility could there be?

Another coach saw him in the act of molesting a student in the shower.What conspiracy?All I've seen is denial by the college and those who saw him in his perverted acts.He is a sick individual that is facing life in prison so he's making a last ditch effort to claim his innocence.In jail he'll find Jesus and then ask to get paroled early.Prison is a horrible place and he should of thought about that before he set out to destroy young people's lives.

@oldhamletman I'm sick of having outsiders and people who have never even stepped foot in State College talk like they have an intimate knowledge about what the community is like. You have no clue.

And you say this, why? Because you saw 50 idiots on the evening news riot after Paterno was fired? The media conveniently didn't cover the even larger candlelight vigil for victims on the other side of campus going on at the same time.

Get over yourself.

"We" don't deserved to be punished, but we'll pick up the pieces and carry on for the transgressions of four school administrators.

@DocHolliday-2979123 Don't think that for one minute that I am defending this POS, but it has nothing to do with being homo-sexual, It's all about the power and control over these young boys. Just because someone is a homo-sexual doesn't mean they are a child molester. They are just like any other normal human being that loves another consenting adult. Jerry Sandusky is nothing but a low life child molester that preys on young children

Of course he will say he is innocent. They all do. In his sick mind - what he did was not wrong nor will he see it any other way. They innocent lives he has ruined is pure evil. He prays in church on Sundays and preys on innocent children the rest of the time. It is my hope that these young victims can move on and not remain his victims the rest of their lives. Doing so will only let him win in the end. NO MORE!

American Girl-724855 says:

If Sandusky was "innocent" why didn't he take the stand and testify to his "innocence" under oath?

The 5th Amendment to the US Constitution states a person has the right to invoke this Amendment: (3) the right to remain silent when prosecuted for a criminal offense.

The U.S. Supreme Court has interpreted the Self-Incrimination Clause more broadly than many of the Framers probably would have. miranda v. arizona, 384 U.S. 436, 86 S. Ct. 1602, 16 L. Ed. 2d 694 (1966), illustrates this point. In Miranda the Court held that any statements made by defendants while in police custody before trial will be inadmissible during prosecution unless the police first warn the defendants that they have (1) the right to remain silent, (2) the right to consult an attorney before being questioned by the police, (3) the right to have an attorney present during police questioning, (4) the right to a court-appointed attorney if they cannot afford one, and (5) the right to be informed that any statements they do make can and will be used in their prosecution. Although the Miranda warnings are not provided in the Fifth Amendment's Self-Incrimination Clause, the Court has ruled that they constitute an essential part of a judicially created buffer zone that is necessary to protect rights that are specifically set forth in the Constitution.

More and more today you hear of people being detained by officers for hours and hours on end, to the point of exhaustion, and many FALSE confusions are obtained. Many do so just to end the madness - and hope that the courts figure it out down the road. Poor use of the justice system.

Taking the 5th does not speak to one's innocent, or guilt. Jury's are instructed in this manner.

I am NOT defending this poor excuse of a human, merely answering why he chose not to testify on his behalf. Was probably the advise of his attorney(s).

At 68 with 45 counts who care if he confesses or admits guilt he'll never see a free day again fricken pervert. To bad they won't general pop his sick @ss.

He not only is a child molester he is a sociopath as well. He believes if he claims his innocence over and over again that somehow all the proof and allegations will become false because in his mind he doesn't see that what he did is horribly wrong.

This A-hole is delusional. Just wait until his appeal, he'll probably admit it happened but say the kids raped him!

Jerry didn't have sex with the boys.

He was just teaching them to take one for the team.

The assistant coach enters the shower room and finds Sandusky with his ? in the boys ? and Sandusky claims it was not his ? and the boy made it up and the assistant coach is part of the set up, in the meantime the whole of the Penn state athletic dept gets riped apart statues are demolished, everything is removed or revoked from the records and millions of dollars blow out all over the place, Sandusky will soon understand what nothing is when he hits general population, those cons like foot ball. and sometimes just ball. Sandusky will think he died and went to heaven (as a receiver).

Part two the Lawyers will not let this one go away there is to much to be made on this one. its like the old time cash register versus the one armed bandit. every time there is a caching sound there is a win the problem is its your money.

dadof4-1401997 said:

"Don't think that for one minute that I am defending this POS, but it has nothing to do with being homo-sexual, It's all about the power and control over these young boys. Just because someone is a homo-sexual doesn't mean they are a child molester. They are just like any other normal human being that loves another consenting adult."

Excue me, but homosexuality is anything but "normal". If you believe that, you are the one who is delusional. (Homosexuality is nothing more than sexual perversion, plain and simple.)

a "well-orchestrated effort of the media, investigators, the system, Penn State, psychologists (and) civil attorneys" to falsely put him in prison.

Don't you just hate it when a university of international renown is willing to tarnish their name and disgrace the institution just to convict an innocent man?

"These people need to be lined up and shot and if they have procreated we need to do something about there children because these sick twisted behaviors are usually inherited!!!"

No pedophilia is not inherited.

He must have watched the debates too and figured if lying worked for Mitt he might as well give it a shot :P.

He is going to be in a special section in prison due to him being high profile. If not gang members would f*** him up. They do not like child molesters at all, they are lower then dirt to them. They are lower then Palestinians are to Zionists :P.

General population and the issue is solved

And, I think it was Sandusky watching the presidential debate and the win by Romney after he changed positions on ALL issues that gave Sandusky the idea to just change his tune...it worked for a lying Romney, why not work for him?

You have just got to "love" the pure arrogence. Oh yes, he is the only honest party here somehow. Obviously everyone else including the victims and his stepson ready to testify. I can't believe he has the balls to still make shots at the victims and says they are all just obviously troubled and noty perfect like him so we just need to disregard them cause, you knowm they're just fked up kids who are still fked up. What a damn clown who deserves the worst punishment possible

Jerry needs to grow his hair longer, braid it into pigtails and start tying his shirts at the waist. He can change his name to "Merry" in prison, start wearing makeup and pretend he is an innocent young boy that gets molested by a disgusting old football coach in the shower. Or they could just shiv him and leave him to die a slow agonizing death.

All I have to say is that there was one heckuva smoke storm (the old saying "where there's smoke, there's fire"). As far as conspiracies go, there are much larger issues to "conspire over" than setting up a college coach for child abuse...seriously. Who would care, or even bother, to go through that much trouble? If anyone wanted to do that, they'd go after bigger fish. He's small fry.

He's denying disgusting acts because he doesn't think they are disgusting.

His delusion of innocence allows others to maintain their delusion that he could never do anything wrong. Conspiracy nuts are everywhere so he will undoubtedly find people that will believe him, which will only reinforce his delusions in his final years. This guy will die without ever realizing, admitting, or caring what he did to dozens of children. I hope the victims get a chance to speak at the sentencing and pray that SOMETHING they say penetrates that arrogant defense mechanism he has created. Maybe at least they will find some closure.

Abusers are manipulators, and even now, he continues to try to manipulate people. At this point, his only goal can be to try to keep at least a few people he cares about believing he is innocent. If they desert him, then he truly IS all alone. Put in his position, I might do the same thing. I mean what does he have to lose by continuing the lies? If he lies, at least his wife and a few close friends might continue to visit him and bring him some joy in life. I know that WE would all like to see him fess up and show some remorse, but from his perspective, it's all still about him and he will do/say whatever he can to set himself up for the best scenario for his final years in prison.

Child abusers generally see their victims as the aggressors and thus blame them.

HopeyChangeyFeely

Alex-3049623

I have been to Penn State among many other schools and taught at a State University with a major football program..... I've also followed the whole story with great interest because of my background.

I understand that there are plenty of students and faculty and alumni that believe Sandusky is guilty... but the vast majority of students and alumni who have been quoted or commented on the internet, yourselves included, arrogantly take the position that they have no contribution to what happened, and nothing could be further from the truth....

from your assumption that I nor anyone else knows anything about campus life....

to the never ending denials of students that they are partially responsible for the cultural entitlement that results in these never ending tales of illegal behavior and looking the other way with respect to athletics...

it makes real people out in the real world look at schools with big athletics and your posts here and see you for what you are: arrogant, self important, and callow...

"too bad that you can't take the Penn St football program with you"!!!! how ignorant. of course you are way too unintelligent to realize that the current players were 9, 10 years old at the time of the abuse. what disgusting pigs you all are. how about child welfare????? how about the Pa governor???? how about the DA that wouldn't prosecute in 1998???? or are you all that dumb that you don't know what I'm talking about???? try reading for a change, instead of just letting snot come out of your noses!!!!

brilliant

Higher ups in the football program protected Sandusky. Methinks thou dost protest too much. And the overuse of question marks is unbecoming.

the current players at that age would have been fresh meat for Jerry! Yuck. Please be quiet EB3-719.

@ EB3-719

Wow, did you have a BAD day?

Hey GrandPa in Northern California. Go back to growing dope and dating in San Francisco. Odds are that you have never even finished HS, let alone visited a university. You are a dumbazz to condemn an entire community because of the acts of a few. If everyone shared your lunacy, California would have been nuked many years ago.

And, you heard it here first...with Penn State winning their football games this year, you can bet their administrators will start talking about getting back in Bowl games next year...they and their powerful almus will threaten the NCAA and they might back down...Penn State is very powerful...they not only make lots of money from their program, they make lots of money for tv...just sayin'

Change now.......................who in prison would want a 68 year old has been?

Julian, age has nothing to do with it - it's power! and the good old boys in prison won't waste much time showing him that he has NO power, unless they give it to him. Even if he's kept in solitary, I bet someone will get him.

Most in prison are there for a very very very long time..makes no difference what the age is to them....it beats using their hands! They just dream its whoever they want while doing it.

And you know this how, Mike? Would you do that if you were in prison? I just can't get over this fixation on prison rape so many seem to have with pretty much any story of a man going to prison. I am in no way defending Sandusky, but it disturbs me how so many people seem to fixate on this topic.

Child molesters do not fare well in prison. It will not be a "sex" thing (like any rape ... it's NEVER about sex) it's a power and control thing. For some of the prisoners it's a REVENGE thing (since they can't take revenge on those who hurt them when they were young). But Sandusky will likely find that he hates showering after he enters general population ...

The inmates in prison despise crimes against women and children. The new arrivals must show their "papers" - meaning the papers containing their conviction(s) to prison.

Anything with crimes against women and children, the new arrivals might as well ask for Administrative Segregation. (security housing unit). They won't stand a chance in general population.

He is deserving of it all... have a NICE life.....

Renee. Why were you in prison ?

Michael Johnson, I have never been in prison.

But I know a lot of people who WORK in the system. One does NOT have to BE in the system to have knowledge of it.

Renee I think your lying. They don't have to show anyone papers (like they have to carry them around LOL)

And I've never heard they didn't like people that committed crimes against women, that's a new one.

New inmates don't have to ask to be separated as he will evaluated and they will determine where he will be housed long before he arrives. Since he is high profile and the nature of his crimes you can bet he will not be in the general population and may spend most of his time alone in his cell for 23 hours a day with an hour of to spend in an outdoors cage.

Obviously you have never worked in corrections. Inmates know who are coming ,why and where they will be housed. Particularly in a high profile case.

Many of the inmates will put a "hit" on an inmate to see who will get the recognition for his/her murder.

Sandusky has about a 25 % chance of making it a year in prison;provided that he is kept id ad-segregation.Other than that he's done. Inmates have a way of getting to the ones that are undesirable.

Erk! Mike277...reading that gave me a visual that had me throwing up, a little bit. My guess was that was your intent...it worked. And Cat is right...there seems to be a code of ethics, even with cons. They don't like dirty cops, hate serial killers, but will absolutely NOT tolerate a child abuser. He's dust, if not kept in solitary. And no one is going to waste time and money with a 24/7 watch, so someone will get to him, sooner or later. Prepare his RIP speech, Dottie.

Oh yeah...no, I haven't been in prison, but I have an uncle and a couple of nephews who work at two. Maybe their info is biased, but the local cops my dad is friends with all seem to agree. And these guys have been around law for a few decades.

BP-2252891

Nope, not lying. I don't know what State you live in, but that IS the case in some of CA prisons. An inmate will ask a family member to send in their conviction papers.

You call me a "liar" for your lack of knowledge? Glad I could enlighten you.

Think want you want, ignorance is bliss....

BP-2252891-

BTW, just in case you re-read all your replies - here is one posted to day, October 9th in reference to my comments that you stated I lied:

TweetyLovesBigBird

dee~ yes, many inmates go into protective custody (PC). But, as a fellow officer for two states......I will tell you this, not all of them pc up and there is a process before that happens. A majority of sex offenders, and murders of women/children are "taken care of by other inmates". Most often, it's done by inmates who are doing life w/out and have nothing to lose.

I worked at one of the Max. prisons and there are inmates in there who have murdered, or what they call victimized pedophiles, rapists, etc. Even behind bars, in 23 hr. lock down, the no-good pieces of crap still have to show papers why they are in there and still taunted if found out they pc'd up. Just and fyi :)

#4.2 - Tue Oct 9, 2012 10:24 PM EDT

What was that officer - they have to show what? the no-good pieces of crap still have to show papers why they are in there and still taunted if found out they pc'd up. Just and fyi :)

Thank you for clearing this matter up, Officer....

I completely agree with you. How can anyone hurt an innocent child. He should locked up for the sexual nature of his crimes. Politicians that drop bombs on neighborhoods(From any side ) ,, What should do with them?

Citizens do not start wars... politicians start wars. Citizens die in wars....politicians get rich .

This pervert should have been stopped years ago when the first reports surfaced. BUT Joe stopped it from reaching the public..... he did not want his MEMORY tarnished by some silly little thing like an old man doing immoral and illegal and unconscionable things to boys in the THRONES locker room.

Joe knew, Joe knew. The unanswered question is did he PARTICIPATE with Sandusky or just watch?

Josh: I have often thought the same. Paterno's percieved reputation could have ridden out the storm. One press conference (years ago) saying one of my coaches committed a crime, he was fired, it was the right thing to do...and PSU paying the victim some cash and it would have gone away. Why Paterno had others hush it up is very strange to me. I too, wonder what he knew, and whether he participated.

Josh and Stunned. If you weren't both so pathetic then you both might be amusing. In either case, you are both shameful.

It's time that Sandusky takes responsibility and end his personal "pity party". The justice system did its job - now he has to pay the price.

I thought I might remind some of you of a certain fact that has remained buried but is very significant to this case and that is the dead and missing DA Ray Gricar who was murdered. I believe that Sandusky is GUILTY and so is Dottie BUT who else knew and was willing to see Ray Gricar murdered? His disk drive was removed from the computer. A drive with evidence on it about this case. So much has not been told and I fear will go to the grave with many.

moonyraker57 said:

"Grown men do not take showers with young boys as part of any regular school curriculum I am aware of..."

I believe this guy sexually molested those children. On the other hand, does anyone remember Michael "Fagin" Jackson? He got off even after it came out that he slept with and showered with young boys. Creepy!

And, what about those people who KNOWINGLY enable those people and their despicable ways?

Well, it's 4th down and 99. I'd call this a hail-Mary shot if ever there was one.

Malinda, kudos on you!!! Best suggestion I've seen yet! Maybe we should write Cardinal Law and tell him of the arrangement, perhaps he'll come visit? Meow!

alinda, if not then perhaps, they can send Dottie and his lawyers...

When McQueary saw what was going on he should have cold-cocked Sandusky and called the police himself. Not the Kampus Keystone Kops, but the State Police. He was more afraid of losing his job than he was concerned about the boy.

Jerry...............I agree. McQueary had one objective and that was to be an assistant coach.............he got what he wanted at a hell of a price. He was, essentially, paid hush money.

His concern is only for himself...................not the boy.

Yes, McQueary should have stepped in immediately, and very few will ever understand how he could not. However, Sandusky is now in prison because McQueary at least reported to the administrators what he saw the next day. If it weren't for McQueary, Jerry would still be bringing those little boys to the Penn State showers.

He's in prison because Victim #1 pressed charges. If it hadn't been for him having the courage to do that, Sandusky would still be free.

Sandusky had already been investigated before McQueary saw him in the shower and everybody at P S knew about it. Then McQueary tells Paterno about the shower incident and nothing happens for a decade. Paterno and his underlings put a lid on it for the glory of the football program and the greater glory of Paterno. This whole story is so disgusting it would make any sane person sick, yet Penn Staters want to defend the sainted Paterno and and the glorious football program. The football program, which was much, much bigger and more important than the school itself, was the reason this child sexual abuse continued for so long. Footballl continues to be played at Penn St and people continue to go to games and the football program is still the only thing that matters at Penn St. No Excuse for this.

McQueary is the only one that did anything. He reported it to three different people. His boss, the head of security and a administrator. How much more did you want him to do? Who else got fired? If he had done what they did, we wouldn't even know about it. I wish him luck with his law suite, and I hope that it will be what it takes for Penn State to clean house...

Past Prime 2,

Are you serious? If someone is raping me, please stop it while it is happening, not go run to your daddy. What else could he do? How about call the police, and get that creep away from the child till they arrived.

Chloe,

In the course of my work I've had to interview and communicate with many of these offenders. One way or another, they say it's not their fault; frequently blaming the victim if they don't claim nothing happened at all. They don't "come clean." I won't say it is impossible, but it is highly improbable. When I was still in my undergrad, I sat in on a interview where the offender claimed repeatedly that it was the victim's fault. He stated that she came onto him, that she wanted it, and he was just appeasing her. The victim was well under two years of age in that case. It left me shocked at that time, but since then I've seen that type of thinking all too often with these offenders. Typically, they see themselves as the victims.

Funny how he couldn't say he didn't like little boys when speaking with Costas, but now he is going to insist that he is innocent after being found guilty some 40 times. I wonder if his denial is so deep, he actually believes it.

And I love how he is acting like it's all one giant misunderstanding with a giant side of conspiracy by what he claims was a vendetta against the school. It's like he doesn't understand what he did was a big fricken deal.

I still think the wife should be brought up on some kind of aiding charges. Even his own kid was going to testify against him, and the wife is going take Jerry's side. She's just as defective as him and without people like her, many of these pedophiles wouldn't have so many victims.

Romar. A 2 year old came onto a grown man ? Jesus, the fact that anyone would even say that, much less think is a clear indication that they need not join society. I could never be in your line of work, just that one sentence freaks me out, I can't imagine hearing these creeps never take responsibility would drive me into madness.

Ro Mar - I agree with Scott, I cannot do your line of work. Thank you for being strong and trying to help these individuals, unfortunately, they are far too messed up to even be helped.

Scott - I totally agree that the wife should be charged with accessory to the crime. I've been married for 6 years now and I make it my business to know where my husband is if he's not home especially in the wee hours of the morning. When you're husband is "gone" and not in the bedroom at night when you have young children sleeping over, don't you ever ask? Don't you sneek in and see what they're up to? I don't know, that in itself gives me the chills...

To deny demonstrates just what a vile, horrible, sicko this evil person really is. he will do and say anything if he thinks it could benefit him--To put in an appeal is the worst thing that could happen to everyone. yet sandusky the pedophile will do just that--that is along w/vile, corrupt defense attorneys who know he is guilty(or they are morons--well maybe they are just morons) and yet won't drop out of this destructive pedophile's life. And, Dottie Sandusky, I so wish you were paying a price too--If you don't know he's guilty (I believe you know you just refuse to say it) then join the morons pedophile club!!!

Chloe18 Sandusky can''t come clean because he don't know how. He and the others at Penn St are caught up in a lie and a huge one at that. Once you tell a lie and try to cover up something of this magnitude your whole life becomes a fight to somehow stay one step ahead of the lie. You are always looking over your shoulder and every time you turn around the lie is standing there smiling at you. These people all know they were wrong but they can't admit it because they were so high and mighty. When they realize that their credibility and reputation are the only things in life that define them as a human being then they may be able to come clean. I don''t see it happening any time soon.

Damn, Ro-Mar - how can you handle that? My sis-in-law worked her career in social work and my DIL is a peditrician and have told me similar things. I honestly don't know how you all can handle this type of thing. Bless you for doing it.

Chloe,

I do not try to help the offenders. I advocate for the children. Part of that is knowing what you are dealing with, so I have had to study the offenders.

Audrey,

As hard as it is for us to hear it, it is much harder for the children who have to live it. I won't pretend there haven't been times that I came home and cried in the shower, but if we don't open our ears and eyes and act to protect them, where do these children turn? Your SIL and DIL have seen some horrors, being in those lines of work. I commend them for their efforts; it isn't easy. You do not become inured to this, it does not get easier, but you tell yourself if you can save even one child, it will be worth it.

NO ONE living or assumed to be a figure in a religious environment can forgive this pus bag.

Not GOD not Jesus, not Buddah not any religious figure... no one... this pervert is on his own and I predict he will take his life after a short period of incarceration. And who will weep for him?

No one.

True, but that's because there is no god. If you believe the stories, Yahweh is far worse than this Sandusky cretin. And don't forget Jesus supports slavery.

It's a good thing gods are myth. If they were true, I'd have to say, "no thanks." Sandusky can join the rest of prison society, which is made up of mostly Christians. (Federal Bureau Prison report 1997).

Atheists, even adjusted for population, make up less than a percent of prisoners in the US. Just think about that.

They turn to religion because thats all they have left.....at least that's how I feel...

Maybe prisons have more christians because there are way more christians than athiest! Duhhhh! If it makes you feel good to say there is no God then go ahead, it won't hurt us that believe and if there really is, you will be sorry, if there is not then what did it harm to believe in being kind and doing good by others? Believing in God does not mean someone is perfect or follows all the rules all the time, no one claims to be perfect. I would rather try to do right by myself and others as much as possible then think F U to everyone and everything! Its all about you! You have no one to answer to but the police! Sad for you!

niece1964... I think you ought to broaden your perspective a bit. It is the courts which find the individual guilty or innocent, not the police. The police enforce the statutes which were created by your elected representatives. Sandusky was found guilty by the court, so you should have no concern with the police until you commit a crime, at which time the police will take you to court, where your guilt or innocence is determined and you will be confined or released. This is where your statement " being kind and doing good by others" is found to be the case, not by the police, but by the court. Thus you can be religious, and according to your faith, " you are being kind and doing good by others ", but to our secular court system you might be guilty of a crime, and incarcerated... and maybe that fact accounts for the number of Christians in prison, that their personal faith was blind to broader societal expectations of behavior.

ATHIEST People like you don't think you are necessarily better than anyone else, you just think you are way smarter than anyone else. If you think Sandusky and all the others are gettin away with this you are a fool. I don't care whether there is a God or not.

Dandaman,

Have you read? He isn't getting away with this. Sandusky is going to jail. Of course, according to Christianity, he can have a meal of fried chicken on death row and end up in Paradise if he says the right magic words. Just think about that.

And you might find it important if you care that other people believe that there is a god. There is a lot of religious bias in American Law despite the Constitution prohibiting it. Prepare for more if Ryan/Romney get in.

niece, there is no evidence for your claims. I'm here to tell you they are ridiculous. You are likely the religion you are because of where you were born.

The fact of the matter is, you believe religion for comfort or out of fear (or a combo of both). There is no evidence. I'm not interested in comfort. I am interested in what's true.

But we are off topic.

Naaaah accidentally is way to good... deliberately with malice would seem right.

You sound like a Muslim or Christian. In civilized societies, we lock them up. We don't kill them.

Were the Soviet Union or Red China civilized societies because they were officially atheist countries i t seems a lot of people disappeared in those countries under the athiest banner. Being an athiest doesn't make you any smarter or better than any other human being. We are all flawed in one way or another.

Dandaman, the Soviet Union doesn't exist. Why don't you look at Sweden or the rest of Scandinavia? Those countries are still around, have low crime and have rightfully, for the most part, abandoned faith. Britain too. But if you think the USSR was a state of critical thinking and reason, then go ahead. You'd be wrong. They operated just like a religion. And they were no fans of science if you research their failed, goofy, agriculture beliefs that resulted in starving the nation.

You can call yourself flawed if you want. I am a good person and so are the people I associate with.

"In civilized societies, we lock them up. We don't kill them"

"Civilization entered the English language in the mid-18th century with the meaning “the act or process of bringing out of a savage or uneducated state."

Have we made it yet?

One can believe in whomever, or whatever, they want. But if ALL lived by the Ten Commandments, then we could perhaps say we were civilized. A lot of the problems of today would not exist.

There is good people in all faiths, and yet we are all flawed. We are not perfect. A lot of criminals grow up in good households. Is it the parents fault? The fault of their faith? No, it is a choice. Their choice. A choice each one must own.

"Consequently let him that thinks he is standing beware that he does not fall". 1 Cor 10:12

Sandusky made is choice - no fault of anyone else.

Agape....

ATHIEST----You say you are a good person as are those you associate with. Sandusky feels that he is a good person too as do Spanier, Curley, Schultz and Paterno thought the world of himself. You are in good company.

every one is entitled to a defense. I sure as hell couldn't do that for a living, but it is a right we all have as Americans. Hope he gets paid well, at the least.

Joe knew. Joe knew. The unasked question is: Did Joe participate with Sandusky?

I am leaning toward a YES he did !

How can you say things about Joe Psterno like that? .......................... Oh I forgot.................. First Amendment rights......................... Right?

I say here for all to see that I sincerely hope that Sandusky never breathes air as a free man. I must say that my cousin's suggested punishment has merit. He suggests that Sandusky be taken to an old falling down shack in the woods, that his private parts, all of them, be nailed to the floor, gasoline spread around him, Give him an old rusty knife, and then drop a lighted match as jailers go out the door saying............ Free yourself. Nuff said?

Josh Brogan. You keep chanting the same mantra throughout this forum. I find you disturbing. You aren't pleasuring yourself are you?

Agreed. The lawyer saying he doesn't know how Sandusky could have had the time to do all of these things is about the lamest excuse ever. It was 10 boys over the course of 15 years.

Also, the wife. I cannot imagine it wouldn't seem odd for my husband to regularly go into one of our children's rooms for long periods of time with the door closed without me occasionally wanting to know what they were doing. No one does that, it's weird.

No Stevo, in fact, we owe a huge debt of gratitiute as a society, to those who agree to defend these monsters.

amen, leroy. As distasteful as it seems, this actually protects the average citizen in the long run. Too bad, we don't seem to want to fund the public defender system adequately...........

The constitution guarantees everyone a right to an attorney. This protects the system as well as the innocent. If the government can still make the case despite a vigorous defense, then you can be reasonably assured that the government "got it right.""

Of course, that doesn't always work so well in practice, particularly when defendants are poor, represented by public defenders, who often see them as numbers, rather than people. Yes, this is still better than just about any other legal system on earth, many of which don't provide even the basic protections against government overreaching.

Dottie knew...she should be on trial next! She's as guilty as Jerry. I agree Jim58.

"Dottie" knew, just as did Joe. They both knew, but their quest for "FAME" was so overpowering they did not care.

And therefore they (she) must accept the verdict of GUILTY and she should rot in prison as will this pervert Sandusky.

"Dottie" knew. she knew!

Don't be too quick to throw her under the bus. she may have been in denial at the monster she was living with or totally dominated by him with threats. of course, she could have been a total d-bag also, but knowing her age and the times, I am leaning towards not condeming her.

Josh brogan. Please seek help.

Well, fox news should get on this dottie thing toot suite. And they should also look into this sandusky thing because the same conspirators who are doing him in probably fixed the jobs numbers.

NEWS ALERT: FOX NEWS PEDERASTS DOOM SANDUSKY AND JOBS REPORT!

It's also just a bad thing to do in a sentencing hearing. He's already been found guilty. Give an equivocal apology, sure. Not admit to anything? Fine. But attacking the victims and alleging crazy conspiracies is probably going to make the judge more likely to give him the maximum sentence.

Amendola is the worst lawyer ever. Sure, there wasn't much to defend, but Amendola with those creepy interviews, statements, and conspiracy theories has done a terrible job. Fortunately, probably not so bad to get an ineffective assistance of counsel reversal.

Leaves me wondering if this attorney is a part of the "brotherhood" of pedophiles.

Mondays Child... and the judge, too. I guess we'll find out at the sentencing if the creep gets a light, or long sentence.

Be sure to give the Judge a transcript and save extra copies for any parole hearings, too Sandusky. Parole boards are very sympathetic to people put in jail because everyone has been lying about them.

Far as I'm concerned, Amendola made a complete a$$ of himself. All I can say to him is - good luck in the future finding clients.