likewise. Justice was served here.

Good for these young men, I am happy they had to courage to come forward, even when the adults around them failed them!

I'm so happy he get's to spend the rest of his life showering with boys... just what he always wanted.

they will only be satisfied if MONEY was their objective...

i really don't believe that's possible at least for now.

Hmmm... This sentence amounts to a "death sentence," for Mr. Sandusky - because, he will most certainly die while in custody. If not from natural causes, then at the hands of other inmates.

The judge carefully crafted the sentence - meaning that Mr. Sandusky will be eligible for early release when he is 98 years old.

Childhood sex abuse will never leave the minds of his victims, and there really is no sure way to help compensate for that - other than them knowing that he got caught, was prosecuted and convicted, and now has to pay the piper, so to speak.

Mr. Sandusky had it all - a good life, a good wife, a good job, a good income, and he threw it all away in the chase for a climax. Oh, and the power trip of having sexual control over another much younger person who could not defend themself. Mr. Sandusky was a modern day Caligula.

Mr. Sandusky is not the only one - there are many more just like him. They just haven't been caught yet. What the fongonus is the matter with anyone who behaves as such?

You are so right that there are many more Jerry Sandusky's out there including Sylvain Kustyan who has been formerly charged with multiple counts of 1st Degree Sodomy of a ten-year-old boy, but was able to flee the country back to his native France before the arrest was made. He is now on the lam, but free to prey on innocent little French boys.

I'm satisfied with the sentence. While there remains a miniscule chance that Mr. Sandusky could be granted parole in 30 years, when he'll be 98 years of age, the most likely scenario is that in 15 or 20 years we'll read about his death, in prison.

The only nagging question I have is, is he really crazy enough to believe in his own innocence, or just crazy enough to believe his protestations will fool the public?

And now on to those who knew & did nothing. Only an idiot would believe NO ONE was aware this, or at least SOME of it.

David.......I agree.

Mike McQuery sold his soul out first to get a position as an assistant coach and from there it was nothing but a cover up.

I cannot believe that Sandusky thinks anyone ( the public) would believe his lame stories. Let the surveyors now realize they are no longer victims and must move on with their lives so that he can not pull them down, ever again.

beachgirl2365, you can't say it better than that! If there is something over top of heroes, they are them too. They withstood the horror and survived. I would be proud to be just 1/100th of a man that each one of them are.

"They are not victims, they are more than survivors,.. with their courage in coming forward,. they are heroes'.

They were "victims", and only time will tell if they are "survivors". There are some that will survive and move on. Sadly, many will not, no matter much they try. Many will allow this perpetrator to ruin the rest of their life. In the long run, Sandusky will win. Sadly, but that is the hard truth of it all.

There will be "triggers" through out their lives. These triggers creep in when one least expects it. Example: They may be in a store, and encounter someone wearing cologne that perhaps the perpetrator wore, or anything that they may associate with that violator of life.

When that trigger happens, they will be transformed back to those awful moments, days, and nightmares.

I wish them all the best and just hope they have what it takes to move on.

Renee, sometimes you need to read between the lines. Not everyone can express themselves with merely words alone and some become so excited or emotionally moved that they simply leave a key word out of a sentence. Just as you did here...

Sadly, many will not, no matter much they try.

Did you forget to add the word "how" in your sentence? I think so.

If beachgirl would have said that they are not "just" victims, would you have been so eager to try making your point? The hard truth of it all is that more people would take the time to read what you are saying if you posted it as a comment rather than a reply.

Other than that, I agree with what you are saying with the exception of... "In the long run, Sandusky will win." I think that the only people to win in this entire thing, are the prosecutors. The victims, their families, Sandusky and his family will be haunted with this the rest of their lives. With the exception of Sandusky himself, I wish everyone the best and hope that they can move on and go through life with as little pain as possible.

yes, i agree. the psychological scars may never be repaired. analysis may help them to understand that they were not to blame for what happenedd to them, and capsulize it so it has no bearing on their future, and they can eventually look at the experience as a bad dream. there is no shame in something they had no choice in.

PMagoo -

Thank you for taking the time to point out my missing word. I can't imagine the time it would take one to post a reply to the many postings here with far more flaws than a missing word. /grins.

Was I eager to make my point? Not hardly. And what is the greatest thing about those posting here? You can pick and choose which ones you will read. You can agree, or disagree. One can take issue as to their opinion as to whether or not it is a reply, or a comment. It will be the reader’s interpretation. And we see how that ends up at times.

You say: I agree with what you are saying with the exception of... "In the long run, Sandusky will win

I have first hand knowledge, that unless the person who suffered the abuse as child, can move on, the perpetrator does win, in the long run. They rob people of dignity and the right to feel, safe.

This person will suffer self doubt, hopelessness, lack of self confidence, no self esteem, and will fail in any relationship. There will be no established trust. They will sabotage anything they may succeed in. They will deem themselves, unworthy. And that is just the beginning. So, please don’t attempt to tell me I am wrong in this.

So, unless you can speak from first hand experience, you can only assume. I assure you that assuming is a far cry from first hand experience.

I, too, wish them nothing but the best! I just know the life that lies ahead of them.

I wish you a great evening.

Sandusky is going to a place where “same sex” is an accepted form of behavior. A lifestyle and behavior now sanctioned and revered in America by countless others outside of prison. I have a hard time finding that just punishment for his crimes.

You're obviously totally ignorant of the conditions in prison. It's not a playground for homosex. Rape is frequently the form of same-sex that takes place in prison. It's anything but a reward even for the most homosexually oriented.

receive a degree from the same college you were raped at? interesting concept.

Actually I like the twist on that. Full tuition for 4-years of college at Penn State. That should have been part of the the compensation.

The pain, undue shame and emotional turmoil that these men will bear for the rest of their lives in no joking matter. You should apologize to them.

people like him are kept in protective custody. don't you watch 'lock-up' raw???

dee~ yes, many inmates go into protective custody (PC). But, as a fellow officer for two states......I will tell you this, not all of them pc up and there is a process before that happens. A majority of sex offenders, and murders of women/children are "taken care of by other inmates". Most often, it's done by inmates who are doing life w/out and have nothing to lose.

I worked at one of the Max. prisons and there are inmates in there who have murdered, or what they call victimized pedophiles, rapists, etc. Even behind bars, in 23 hr. lock down, the no-good pieces of crap still have to show papers why they are in there and still taunted if found out they pc'd up. Just and fyi :)

This is life. In fact, this is a longer sentence than for many murderers.

in europe, the longest sentence a convict can draw is around 20 years. i believe canada has 'life', though.

the usa has the longest incarceration terms of any developed country.

in oklahoma it's on the books, you can draw 8 years if you're caught with a single joint.

I'm pretty sure the victims will not be going through Penn State for their college education. Why would they trust an institution that helped Sandusky cover up what was happening? Now if it was at Penn State's expense to fund their college education to a college of their choosing, that is a different story!

dee...whatever

As to the matter of college tuition---these victims are in the process of suing Penn State. So tuition is a moot point. PS will likely settle for large sums to each victim. And yes, why would one choose to attend a school where he was abused? An every day reminder of the bad experiences?

That is exactly what I was thinking, most of these people may have come out instigated by others and to take revenge for heaven know what, but like you said if those alligations are true indeed, then he deserves some punishment. But the oddest thing to me is that it took a long time for these people to come out, first of all, then to hear some of the testimonies, that they allowed him to used them sexually for tickets to football games etc. that sounds not too painful to me, in fact I think and pardon the rudeness, but for those who only got blow jobs and the tickets to their favorite games etc. that doesn't sound like they did a lot of suffering. My opinion of course, but I am sure that there was one out there that in fact suffered something and for that one justice may have been served.

I have a nice ocean front lot on Mars I'd like to offer you for a great price Patsy.

Oh well. The truth isn't always revealed to us, so I'm just going to throw this whole story aside from now on. :P

I do find it ironic that many people immediately sympathize with the "victims" in public, or on stories on the media...like this one. Yes, we all sympathize with the poor victims, but how many people have we hurt in our lives? Do we always feel sorry for what we've done? What about the many many others in the world who have been, or are, victims...who are silent? Think about it.

Con-science, I totally agree with you. Good one!

Patsy- Are you for real??

We may never know if Patsy is real or not...unless of course she buys that ocean front property on Mars.

This is not about victims and victors, this is about the due process of the law. If, for some reason or another, far into the future, there is some question, then at that time there will be another judicial review. Sandusky may well appeal his verdict, but as it stands the verdict is guilty which will stand as long as he is incarcerated. The public has every right to speak out about public institution protected pedophilia, be it at Penn State or in the Catholic Church, and demand that those who are found to be practicing pedophiles be brought before the judicial review process of the State, which represents the public. We're all not Penn State Alumni, nor Catholic parishioners, we are just citizens who would like to see juveniles protected from predation.

The guy is obviously an manipulator. If he can manipulate so many people for so long, he's gonna give it his last try to manipulate the public.

I find it convenient that he decided not to get on the stand to defend himself in court, but has no problem getting on the media stand to plea his case after the trial.

yeah....you are just sayin.....all those victims, and witnesses, and the evidence. but youre just sayin.

sorry to upset you but i've heard too many stories of witnesses recanting their stories many years after they've ruined somebodies life....not interested in mars but thanks for asking.

Don't just say what shouldn't be said. McQueary WITNESSED some of this abuse in the shower. This is not fabricated; it is fact. To even suggest it is fabricated is to further traumatize the victims.

@Patsy -

Penn State had a LOT to loose in the cover up. Do you know how humiliating it was for those young boys, who are now men, to come forward.? Perpetrators have NO conscience. It is not unusual to threaten the victims to keep them from telling. More often than not, they are told that if they DO tell, their families will be killed, and so will they. Would that not be enough to keep young children from telling?

They have to live with what was done to them. They will feel no self worth. Shame on the adults that knew and said nothing. For what? The good name of Penn State.

And I doubt these young boys thought of any financial aspect of it while being molested and keeping quiet.

He was found guilty of abusing 10 boys. There are another 10 who also testified to the Grand Jury but their cases were held back in case Sandusky was found not guilty. Then they would have the testimony of the additional young men to try him again! Sorry, I don't believe 20+ men will recant. Besides were you at the trial? I was. If you had heard these men's heart-wrenching testimonies you would know there was no room for doubt.

How can you even indicate they boys brought all this up for money, or that it took them so long to come forward???? I'm a victim, survivor of sexual abuse which started at age 7 and ended at age 15 when I got married to get out of my house. I didn't tell my mother until I was 23 so time has no meaning. As a victim you feel at fault, threatened, that it not believable (in my case it wasn't until many years later). Wow, some of you are so closed minded and it must be nice living on Candy Cane Lane :/

Well said, Tweety. I am sorry that this as effected your life as well. People whose life has NOT been affected by this can write the most ignorant things. Is this foolish notion that because nothing was said at the time it was happening that it didn't. I can't think of anything more irresponsible.

People don't tell for many reasons. One of them is noted here - Who is going to believe them? It is often years before it just spills out. It spills out over some the most foolish reasons. But it happens.

It is the most devastating thing anyone can imagine. Lives are destroyed. And I don't just speak of the victim. Life as one once knew it, will never, ever, be the same again.

Wishing you be best, always.

Two kinds of people in this world when it comes to this kind of thing - People who identify with the victimized and people who identify with the abuser. Sorry, but in this case, if the evidence wasn't rock solid, the eye witnesses so numerous and clear in their accusations, they never would have gotten to trial. This IS a Penn State Football coach we are talking about.

A few tried and true arguments that abusive people like throw out even when the evidence is 100% clear on what happened:

1. If it happened, why didn't it take so long for them to come forward.

Here's why - most abused children are selected because they have no support. If they came forward as children, no one would have believed them and the abuser was in a position to see that they had worse happen to them. Also, abused children tend to have no close connections with parents. The abuser supports this kind of connection and then abuses that closeness. The child feels conflicted and grows up not understanding healthy intimacy. Most come to a point in puberty where they adjust their perspectives and decide that such things as intimacy and affection are things not to be trusted. They move on. It is usually around 30-35 that the real problems start because they are unable to form close attachments to other people, unable to commit to careers, an education or a job. They suffer financially, emotionally, socially and then realize (after great distress) that it was the events in their youth that set the stage for these problems. Accusers come forward in their late 20s - mid 30s because the abuse catches up to them and, if they have the courage, they find that it must be dealt with in order to move forward (not all get there). The way this played out is actually pretty textbook in abuse cases.

2. What about all that money they're getting? They're in it for the money.

I won't rule out that it could be a motivating factor for at least one of them, but you are hard pressed to find 20 boys, a coach, a janitor, the PA State Police and a bunch of lawyers and judges who 'went' along so that some men could get some money. In other words, it happened. If those men get some money out of it - oh well. Don't rape little boys (or girls for that matter) and don't cover it up and you don't have to worry about exposing yourself to the risk of a lawsuit.

3. They were troubled teens, so they can't be trusted.

Guess what - that argument is why Sandusky picked them. He had that argument in the back of his head as he pressed himself up to them at night. We all think that troubled teens can't be trusted. They all grow up to be terrible lying adults? The evidence showed that Sandusky is guilty and Penn State covered it up. These men came forward and said something, guaranteeing that Sandusky would not be able to abuse other children and that he would get the justice he deserves. That's pretty clear evidence that troubled teens can grow up to be as honest and courageous as anyone else.

4. "Well, it's just all pretty suspicious to me..."

No it isn't. Anyone who kept up with the ten + years that this investigation went on, the actions of those involved, the testimony and the evidence knows that Sandusky raped and abused a number of young boys and many years later, after a long fight, the police finally caught him and a prosecutor brought the case to trial. If you seriously think there is still an argument, you are either trolling (understandable) or you are probably an abusive person feeling anxiety as you realize that it can and often does come back to you.

I don't think life sentence is necessary when people in the U.S. die in their 80s-90s.

Oh and, BTW...I know this is a little hard to believe...but people can change. And they do change. IMO when someone has learned their lesson and is going to behave themselves from then on...it's unnecessary and very unfair to criticize them for what they were.

Just saying. No need to hate. :)

You dont really believe that he is every going to get out????

well, he'll be a tad old in 45 years, but....

IMO... when your gay, your gay... when your straight, your straight... when you are a freak and like little boys, you will always like little boys... He will never change what he's attracted to. So he can change his heart and make peace with God, but as far as I'm concerned people who molest kids should have "parts" chopped off before they leave the pen. This is an issue I will never budge on. Lock em up forever, they can find peace on the other side.

He is 68 years old - that will be a life sentence for him. I didn't see where he had the option of parole after any amount of time served. Even if that were the case - he would have to go before the Parole Hearing Board. If that were to become an option, all the victims would be notified and have right to submit letters, or attend the hearing, in protest of the possibility of parole.

Personally, I don't this as an option for him.

He will have plenty of time to think about his crimes.

And do you think that is punishment for him, I think he will look up in high and say Thank you God for this place is like Heaven on earth. I will have all that I ever wanted here.

thunter...apparently Sandusky likes young, vulnerable little male bodies, around 10-13 years old...he will NOT be running into this in prison..however, I suspect he WILL be running into other victims that did not come forward or the brothers and father's of victims...he liked to go after vulnerable at risk boys.....and when he doesn't have any power or ability to seduce ....this will NOT be fun for him and their won't be a young boy in sight. If he lives 5 years it will be a miracle!

People like Sandusky do not want to be with consenting adults. They prefer children. They are perverted.

he will be kept isolated. in protective custody.

he's a chomo. not a good thing in the pen.

(or good for penn either!)

They are too old for him.

Dee - you are indeed correct. He will also be known as a "Chester" as in Chester the Molester - pedophile - child molester.

Those are not charges one wants on their conviction papers that will be asked for by other inmates.

AdSeg...here he comes.

He's already convicted... His pleas were not guilty, then the court case came, and he was convicted.... no more pleas... Today was just his sentencing to see what the punishment will be. As long as there's no evidence to help his case. (like victims recanting) He IS going to spend the rest of his life in prison. No judge wants the political backlash from being the guy that "let him out early."

You think it would be better if he was sentenced to 400 years?

This guy's NOT getting released.

The only "punishment" that would fit this crime is to sexually abuse Sandusky's grandson's....and that would be wrong, and I don't think he would care anyway. They don't draw and quarter anymore...so this may not be the "right" punishment, but I do think is is a just sentence. The important thing is that these young men STOPPED this fixated pedophile! Just too bad that he wasn't STOPPED by the adults that knew about this back in 1998 or so! THAT is the injustice.

At the very least, to acknowledge each count, he should have gotten a minimum of 45 years. That is my own personal opinion. I tend to agree with a lot of others tho, this guy won't last long in prison. I do however place my bet on suicide, he is selfish enough.

You think it would be better if he was sentenced to 400 years?

This guy's NOT getting released.

Yes, I think it would be betwas sentenced to 400 years. The fact that he's not getting released is not the point. 30-60 years for the damage he inflicted on his victims is WAY TO LIGHT!

give him three weeks in population, (if it takes that long)

Put your head back into the fridge, it's rotting.

Ill tell you what, ill put my head back in the fridge when you get that cock out of your mouth.

"If none of these people were willing to testify before a lawsuit was involved years ago. "

Because sometimes people are too scared to say something until someone else makes the first move. Remember, these victims had to admit being molested. Not everyone is willing to do that. They would rather keep it a secret. Should anyone believe you if you tell them something that happened 20 years ago? Since you waited 20 years to say it, why should anyone believe you now?

"sandusky is just a gay guy that society now accepts as married couples"

Speak for yourself. I voted yes on Proposition 8 here in California which bans same sex marriages.

"America you got what you asked for. "

Would you say that if your son was one of Sandusky's victims?

" what society now says is normal. "

In what society do you live in where child molesting is okay?

A grown man who is fixated on sex with 10-13 year olds is NOT "gay", anymore than a grown man who is fixated on sex with 10-13 year old girls is "heterosexual"....they are fixated pediphile....dumbass......there IS a difference.

So...are there not men who sexually abuse little girls? what the hell is the difference? children are children. you're a wacko.

OMG......RL19......it is too bad u havent a CLUE what ur talking about.

I think you need to do research on what a pedophile is, because you seem to be very confused as to what a homosexual is and what a pedophile is. Neither are the same.

Homosexuals have sex with the same sex, but it's consented sex between adults.

Pedophiles have sex with prepubescent children (generally age 13 years or younger, though onset of puberty varies). Gender does not play a factor.

RL. You are simply using this story to spread hatred. It is likelly that your homophobia is simply an attempt to hide your own feelings for people for the same sex. Embrace it RL! Live your life in happiness

in RL19's country it's ok to rape litte boys as long as you dress them like little girls first. In his country a 50 yr old man can marry 10 and 11 yr. old girls. The pedophile profit he worships did it. He didn't use the shower either because no one takes them over there..which is why the whole country smells like incense and B. O. I think he's just trying to suppress his real feelings

RL19 - You may be as sick as Sundusky. Nobody said he was GAY - he liked YOUNG boys, not men. MEN can consent to sex with other men, children can not. It is pure evil.

You say: Think the sentence is too long, If none of these people were willing to testify before a lawsuit was involved years ago. Why believe them now.

You have absolutely NO clue about abuse of children, or WHY they don't tell. There is NO future in being stupid - but then again, you might disprove this.

You say: "What is the problem with sandusky, he was just acting out what society now says is normal".

NOWHERE in society will you ever see / hear that molesting children is acceptable. Unless it is considered acceptable behavior in your own household?

YOU are NOT normal....

well said

What doesn't seem right? You watch too much crime shows...

Sorry, but where was your god when these kids were being molested? Shoot, I can show up after something happens and I'm only human........

And Sandusky...yep, all he has to do is "ask" for forgiveness and it'll be like he never harmed any child, right?

Thank you, Gilbert. Yours is the best comment I've read so far. This world is full of sin. Sandusky probably did evil things. Unfortunately, those same things were probably taught to him. Being the mother of a survivor of sexual abuse I know the only way to ever heal from such attrocties is to turn to God and to forgive others.

Mouse, I hope that you will find God too. God is good, all the time. And all the time, God is good.

Each state has their own punishment. Some states are more harsher than others. If he had committed his crimes in a different state, perhaps his sentence would have been longer. In all likelihood, he will in prison.

I would wait until that trial got underway before comparing that sentence to the one Sandusky was just handed. You're a little bit premature in making a judgement call on how things will play out.

Pedophilia is about as heinous a crime as exists on this planet Earth. They murder the souls of innocent little children. Sandusky should have gotten several hundred years. As pedophiles normally have several hundred victims throughout their lifetime, even 400 years would still likely only be one year per each probable victim.

Caroline, I beg to differ, since a living, breathing, intact human has the opportunity to rebound, recuperate, and overcome obstacles, no matter what adversities can be put in their path. That cannot be said about someone that dies at the hands of a murderer. Most see the "bogeyman" (pedo) similar to the villain in many horror movies, where a hero saves the day at the end, and the bogeyman is whisked away to the likings of those with inherent fears. However, ask your friends, relatives, who you would/could take on, (murderer or pedo in a conflict) and the answer would most likely be the pedo over the murderer, since most picture a pedo as weak, physically (and probably mentally as well). More people are truly and deathly afraid of a murderer, since they can do much more harm (unless you don't consider being dead as more harmful), but I do realize some sex offenders do torture their victims, so I am trying to keep things in perspective. Yet, to this day, we only account for sex offenders, and no other type of criminal, no matter how violent their past behavior was. I don't mind having a database that tracks criminals, just wondering why those that commit sex offenses are the only ones that have to sign a registry. Me, personally, if I had to worry about "bad people", it would be those that are prone to commit murder, aggravated assault, muggings, burglaries, and other serious crimes. Eventually, there will be databases on them as well, it should be just a matter of time, just I wish it was already. Case in point - Bryan Stow. He was just about beat to death over a pro game. Do you not think how this will not only traumatize him for life, but also his wife and kids? Food for thought.

Also, Caroline, where did you get your stats on how many victims per pedo? you stated "several hundreds of victims"? That hardly sounds like factual information. Please provide the reference/source for your stats.

The nut job in Colorado hasn't even been to court and you're projecting his sentence. I'll admit that sex crimes with children are highly over sentenced but it's because our criminal justice system catches so few. The tremendous feeling of impotence in cops and judges leads them to sentence the ones they do catch to incredulous lengths of prison time for their crimes with children.

Most perpetrators are never reported much less caught. That's because of the shame involved with raping children, shame and guilt felt by the victims of these crimes.

Pedophilia is NOT the most heinous crime on this planet. Even as a victim of pedophile myself I wouldn't say that. A crime involving the death of a human being is far more serious.

thats there game lastgirl (DENIAL)

Yes, formerly charged alleged pedophile, Sylvain Kustyan has made similar claims.

he wont last long. my guess he will commit suicide before convicts get to him.

Sandusky is too selfish and probably chicken to commit suicide.

Don't forget that Sandusky actually believes his own lies. He can't see the atrocious acts he committed for what they are. So suicide is out.

Dottie Sandusky isn't guilty or she would have been charged.

Listen dummy none of sanduskys victems were 10 years old, so you are an idiot to mention a lie as you have done. truth is truth I am not a fag as are you. i do not have problems with sandusky I have problems when society shoots their face off in two directions as you have chosen to do. You and your democratic buddies think it is ok for men to have sex with men, my point is if you are going to allow that act as normal Then sandusky did nothing wrong. these men that sasndusky had sex with were not raped neither as your lie states. it was voluntary sex. you and your democrat friends have ruined society as normal. it is your problem not mine. I do not accept fags and never will Because of this type of behavior that they take part in. now take your medicine and shut your mouth I do not give a @!$%# what you think.

Um actually RL19, the boys he RAPED were children. Does it really doesn't matter if the children were 10 or 13 or 16?? the point is he was convicted of 45 counts of child sexual abuse. Key word being child. If he had been having consentual sex with men it would be different.

He wasn't. He was RAPING CHILDREN. So please stop with the ignorant comments!

RL19 it was a fact that the "boys" were under the age of consent. what has happened here is that you have become aroused with the idea of having sex in the shower with men. On MSNBC here that's not a problem. maybe some of them were willing but were under the legal age of consent.

So RL19, when did your HOMOPHOBIC judgement begin clouding your ability to read the articles about this case? Same-sex relations have taking place for thousands of years and you're just too short of brain cells to grasp that concept. It's as much a part of society as straight sex.

You don't even know that the victims, some of whom were single digit age, were not over the age of consent. You're just plain ignorant and should keep your mouth shut so fewer people will find out.

sure dee. he will be out when he's around 110 years old. sure start over then. maybe a coach

yeah. sure he will dee and things will be all better.

Yes Dee , most people that get out that are around 100 rebuild there lives and become model citizens hahaha !!! Take a hit for me : )