Rachel Maddow talks with Denver police spokesperson Raquel Lopez about the details known so far about a gun shot fired at the Obama campaign headquarters in Denver, Colorado.
Denver police were looking for a person who shot at a campaign office for President Barack Obama on Friday, NBC station KUSA reported.
Police say there were people inside the office at the time of the 3 p.m. shooting, but no one was hit.
A single bullet struck the office and broke the window, Detective Raquel Lopez, Denver police spokesperson, told NBC News. But detectives could not confirm that the shot was fired with the intent to hit the office.
Detectives were still investigating the intent of the shot. They were looking into the possibility the shot was fired from a vehicle.
Read more at 9news.com, KUSA's website
Police were reviewing surveillance video for possible leads, KUSA reported. Investigators said they have a "vehicle of interest" and are interviewing witnesses.
A campaign official confirmed the incident but referred questions to the Denver police.
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Sore losers shouldn't have guns.
this only the beginning. get ready for militia vs national guard and marshal law our military will be used against its own citizens so the libs will stay in power....
That is some serious delusional paranoia, there. Get medication!
janie,
the scary thing is that mike and many others actually believe that bs. Google search for safety bunkers and see all of the people cashing in on these poor bastards.
Republicans have a real problem with racists and deep seated mental illness in their ranks. They will hang a noose and claim it has nothing to do with intimidation and now they shoot into a building and they will claim it was an accident. Republicans are scraping the bottom of the barrel when it comes to their followers. TeaBaggers, Rednecks and Nutbags... What else could you expect?
Come and bring that @!$%# to my door and I'll show you what a Veteran will do to your punk ass.
You realize with that level of paranoia, Mike, you're very vulnerable to manipulation by groups with nefarious intents, right?
All along my fiance and I have been saying that all Republicans do is throw hate and fear. HATE AND FEAR! They want all of Americans to be scared! This just proves my point that Republicans are so hateful and so evil that they have to lash out this way. This was more than likely a Republican who did the shooting. That's a no brainer. Who else would it be? They are sore losers and can't take the heat. They are greedy and want it all ALL in their pockets at any cost. I am not Democrat or a Liberal....I am Independent and this pretty much sums it up for me....America needs to rid of Republicans. They need to retreat to "bull @!$%# mountain" as John Stewart calls it. I feel horrible for Obama and all the crap he has to put up with from the rightwingers. My lord, I feel horrible even saying I am an American! This country is pathetic.
I bet this nut bag legally owns the firearm used. So glad our 21st century American society thinks it's still a good idea to allow weapons of massacres and assassinations to be freely sold to everyday citizens...
The bigots are out with their big mouths and little minds. They hate the fact that the President is half black. But they do not mind the flag of China flying over an plant in Illinois. Why don't they go and tear down the flag of China that Bain Capital is flying.
Small minds, loud mouths and guns... the perfect combination for todays righty...
Banana I rorally hear you. I love many things about this country but I hang my head in shame like the family member at a reunion who married the drunk redneck girl he met at a bar. It is very hard to explain to foreign friends why so many americans are the way they are. In truth, the reason is complicated and deep rooted in our isolation and continuing delusion that we live on the wild frontier and have to protect our selves from savages and criminals out side out cabin. There is a large group, mostly (but not completely) white, who are terrified, poorly educated people who see the world changing and are panicked because they lack the capacity to process and accept the world they see around them. The GOP is now a vehicle, used by a small cadre of the very rich, to control these people by feeding their fears and illusions. It has created a bubble into which is has crammed a myriad of delluded realities and this is the world these people live in. They lack the intellectual capacity to understand or question, most read nothing but the Limbaugh Report, and all of them dwell in the bubble and accept the twisted logic and contradictions about them without question because it makes them feel in control and important in a huge world where they are now very much the pawns of the very people who's world they live in. They are not all overt bigots but they are terrified and panicked by the changing world around them and the complicated problems to which they not only don't have a logical answer but also the fact that, in the end, they don't even understand the problem. Yes, I am an independent too. I am a recovered Republican as well. I grew up as an Eisenhower republican and have seen my party disappear and have also come to grips with the BS that has been collectively crammed down this country's throat since the late 1970's. I weep for this country if Romney wins. Obama, while far from perfect, is the last man holding the doors to keep the corporate barbarians outside. Let us hope he wins this election so that by 2016 there will fully be to few white scared people (I am white by the way) to elect any reublican.
If you had any doubt that the right wing breeds hate,,,,,,,,,,,,
There's a lot of people that shouldn't have guns.
"sore losers shouldn't have guns"....wow, you think Obama shot his own office? Well, that makes sense, he's desparate for sympathy.
Fast and Furious did it again!
If the police aren't even sure this bullet was meant for the campaign office and Obama wasn't within hundreds of miles of the place - why does MSNBC headline this as an "Obama Incident"?
Spin anything they can to support their major source of income...buying America, one network at a time.
An investigation hasn't even been completed, but already it is someone who has to be a Republican. It's the Republican(s) that are racists and hang ropes for intimidation.
Well, colormepurple, I also am a Vet, having spent two tours in Nam. What do you and so many more really know of anything. Were you and others see black and white, I see brown. Where you enter into an enemy camp in search of racists, you have not looked within yourself. What you perceive as good is but fatal to a good man. And what you perceive as bad is on the scale of things, good.
It is them who use the word/term racist that is the most guilty. Such are filled with anger that they could end another's life with little reason and in this world, little consequence. I am a man who is neither black nor white, but a man of brown, albeit light brown. Who is the murderer. The man who kills in war, the man who protects his family and kills another doing so, or the man, who in his heart rejoices every time another life is taken from the womb. A life denied the same chances as you and so many others.
This my friend will be but gibberish to them who see only what their eyes tell them they see. It is gibberish because to them it is not meant to be given for understanding. But here is a menu item to consider when you otherwise aren't starving your own spirit.
A child is conceived in the womb. And to that which is forming in the womb, God gives to it the spirit which this forming flesh will give host. The truth is that without the body the salvation of God cannot be manifested nor received. It is not the host which gains from this salvation, but that which is within. That spirit God delivers to forming child was created before the world, and as sin is within the world, sin also first found its first stronghold in heaven, which by the way is where we began life.
A murderer is one who denies another the sanctity of life. To be able to choose between accepting or rejecting what could lead to eternal life. A murderer is one who is filled with such anger and for no worthwhile reason or purpose. A man's thoughts make him as guilty as the act in itself. If a man desires that he murder his brother in his heart, he has already put a yoke upon himself.
Why is it that a man cannot distinguish between one thing or another. The Republicans have been accused of so many things throughout the years. Some perhaps true, some perhaps lies. For instance. Prior to the Civil War it was the Republicans who stood opposed to slavery. In the 60' it was the Democrats who stood opposed to civil rights issues. And unless I'm mistaken, George Wallace was a Democrat.
A dog returns to its vomit. Why then does a man desire to return to the taskmaster, the slave owner.
In the end, we all make way back from where we came. It is then that one is separated from another. One is found to the right hand of God and another to the left. The separating of the sheep and goats are made. The mighty man upon the earth now weeps and mourns. The lowly man upon the earth now rejoices. For the tares are removed from the wheat grains.
Who after all is a racist, but one who would select a leader based principally upon one word. Color.
I would desire that Lt. Col. Allen West would have elected for the run. Not because of color, but because he is a man of integrity. And he is my brother.
There are other ways of dealing with this election thing instead of intimidation. Go to Florida sign up as a republican and they will give you 10 voting ballots.
Republicans will be Republicans,rednecks,haters,pea-sized brains,racists,evil-doers,corrupted bastards,I'm sorry if I said Republicans,but that doesn't apply to a few of you,if there's any.I never met a good Republican.If you are one,raise your flag and we'll set up and appointment to meet each other and you have to tell me what good you did to help people(that includes all races and religions,poor or rich,sick and healthy),but I won't hold my breath.
It's amazing that all of the left wing nut cases that regularly post on this site have assumed that this was a Republican......
Do any of you remember Jared Loughner - the guy that shot Gabby Giffords......the guy that all of his classmates describes as a left-wing pot head.....
Just like the Giffords case, everyone is jumping to conclusions.....How about all of you STFU and wait until the authorities know something......all you are doing now is showing your incedible stupidity....
Hey donald, do you think the republicans could be being accused of so many things because they are really doing them? And you say the Republicans stood against slavery before the Civil war, that is true but if you do a little research and study history you will find the republican party of Lincoln's time bears very little resemblence to the current Republican party. The same goes with the Republican party of Jefferson's time who's beliefs more closely align with the current Democratic Party. Peace my friend
To Mike - 2598123: Both you and all of the people blaming Republicans need to take a deep breath and find out what really happened before you start spouting off. But, in response to your post: I sure as %^$# hope our military WILL be used against right-wing nuts who form militias and threaten the peace by refusing to accept the democratically elected government. That's exactly what the military is for... protecting our citizens from all threats, both foreign and domestic. It has nothing to do with "keeping the libs in office". It has to do with the democratic process and representative government. If you don't like the results, fight to change the results next election. What you are supporting isn't brave or heroic. It is childish, selfish, egocentric, and dangerous. It is also called treason.
Get Real - You should get real. Years ago I had my house shot at. I could see no reason why anyone would do that as I live in a neighborhood where that just didn't happen. Still, I thought it was random until I found out from the police that it turned out to be a couple of young thieves who thought a member of my family overheard them at school talking about a car they stole and were warning her not to talk. An investigation is always done but in reality, if they shot at the democratic headquarters, that is where they meant to shoot at.
Banana
As an independent I don't hate anyone but I do fear a government that is taking away my basic rights as a citizen. I fear a debt that the getting out of control and will eventually kill job growth here. I fear a government without checks and balances and thinks that the constitution is just a piece of paper and is not important. We are guaranteed our rights through that constitution and the Bill of rights tells the government what they are not allowed. Every time we allow the government to infringe on those right we change the fundamental contract that we have with that government. Once you abdicate your right it is difficult to get back.
You see we once had a country without an individual income taxes, wealth was a measurement of success and a place where you were only limited by your ability. Things have certainly changed from those days and the worst of it is that we allowed it to happen.
Sometimes HOPE AND CHANGE isn't what it is cracked up to be.
This happened not to long ago to a Republican election office. It happens as there are crazies on both sides as we can see from some of the liberal posters on here.
Commonsense
This is why it is so important to make sure the right man for the job is in the office. At least I am confident in my choice of who takes the lead at the helm, and accept my responsibility, if the man (or someday, woman) I chose doesn't do that job.
Let me ask, when, in you short lifetime have you ever been oppressed, here?
Try living in Communist Russia, China, Somalia, Tanzania, and on and on where the rights you describe, isn't even recognized.
You and I are lucky, my friend, you are not seeing the glass half full.
Where?
colormepurple,
Prove that it was a Republican and not some Democrat sensational plant. Desperate low rent leeches fearful of losing their freebies most likely staged this.
The only racists involved are those freeloading dimwits who voted for Obama because he is half black. Now your kind must vote against Obama to prove that you are not an idiot.
To partially quote your raving, "Come and bring that @!$%# to my door and I'll show you what a" real combat "Veteran will do to your punk ass."
I await your lack of response, REMF.
Wow what a bunch of liberal drivel by the left this morning. they speak of hate without realizing the hate is coming from them. There is not a Republican out there who is willing to turn your boy god into a martyr so maybe it is time to look a little closer to home. The purist notion of the left is incredibly dominant in their rants and rages. The simplest explanation could be the likeliest but you all would never see it. Your fear oozes with each description and tale of the events as you perceive them. I do not know who took the shot and ultimately do not agree with who ever did, but given the amount of attention this will receive whoever did it will be caught. I do think it is funny all the calls for the military to be called out to battle the Republicans who are obviously not Americans for disagreeing with the Dems, is that the peace and love the left speaks of on a daily basis? Wait I can answer that, I think it is. Dems talk peace but if you take the above posts into consideration, I see no peace there. LOL
GOP campaigning is in full-effect I see.
"Hope and Change" I am all for it, I hope we can change the president this year. I hate to interject any logic into this conversation, as it will not make any sense to most of what I am seeing on this blog, but here goes. You liberals will all acuse me of paranoia, and conspirist, because that is what bush/obama have told you to say. First off, let me say, I a veteran, uphold and defend the constitution. Watching the debates, neither side is my guy, but, one side is closer to the government following the consititution. Secondly, why would a "Republican" shoot at that office? According to obama, these people cling to their guns and religion, nobody who does that would miss their target by hundreds of miles. I wouldn't look too hard at the republicans, if they accidentally hit obama, joe would be the president with the sympathy of a nation, not good for getting your guy into office. But, lets say that this is not another scheme cooked up by the administration to distract obamas sheeple from his pi$$ poor record, lets say this is just some joe on the street, who would do such a thing? Could it be one of 23,000,000 people who are unemployed due to his false promises? Could it be one of the 47,000,000 who do not want to be on food stamps, but need to be to take care of their family? Could it be the father of a veteran who received a form letter about the death of their child? Could it be the friend of an ambassador who despite requesting higher security for months was gaffed off and is now dead? One thing I have learned over the last four years, if MSNBC puts a spin on it, it is probably wrong and exactly the way obama wants it reported.
Will conservatives ever have to storm d.c.? I hope not, but, understand...the second ammendment was put into place to defend the constitution and the bill of rights. I would like to believe that our politicians who continually get elected for one term will get the message, that they are a function of the constitution, and that free people know what to do and how to do it, they don't need the government there to do it all for them.
Just a side note: When the arab spring popped up, wasn't all the libs in favor of people removing a tyrannical government?
I really wish some of you who claim Republicans are Rednecks would stop. I am not a Republican and yet, I am a Redneck.
I have used guns all my life, learned to hunt and I was a marksman in the Air Force. Knowing how to use a gun doesn't make you a crazy. So please stop comparing rednecks with Republicans.
Actually if you know your history you would know that the term redneck was derived from the coal miners who refused to work in adverse conditions and hence were known as rednecks.
I am voting for Obama btw.
Alot of people are sick and tired of this lame inept president and his corrupt cabinet of tax cheats running this country into the ground. The silent majority better VOTE this time and don't waste your vote on some third party candidate just to show how "fed up" you are. Vote for Mitt and get rid of this clown we now have in office.
"I think we can expect a lot more of these types of hate crimes, especially after Obama is re-elected. The veracity, vocalization and number of sociopathic racists in America is alarming. It's quite obvious most of the tea party and the Anybody But Obama people are motivated by racial hatred."
Really, all this from a party who believes that a race of people who descended from kings, scholars, and philosophers, whos fathers and grandfathers stood up to beatings and death to ensure their children had civil rights specifically the right to vote, that these people are too stupid or lazy to walk their a$$ to the secretary of state to get an identification.
Who are the racists?
Why does obummer have people shooting at his campaign office for him? Is this just another attempt to delude the people like his "film" excuse?
You libs know that your BOY is going to loose come November, so get used to the repubs.
If it wasn't then this is just another of NBCSnooze's anti-gun agenda.
If it was then it seems not everybody is enamoured with obummer's agenda.
I had the intent of logging in to say that it is unfair of dems to assume that all repub's are lunatic gun toating jack @$$es but after reading the comments I realized well gee a lot of them must be. And TidePride Im not so sure we're going to "loose" to you guys. At least I hope we can hold it together against a party who thinks Sesamy Street is a budget prob. and can't spell the word "lose". I'm not even going to touch the "boy" comment, you know you are wrong. And how about your reps who campaign on family values then pressure their mistresses into getting abortions. What that's ok with you guys?
Mohamamad video fault!!!!!
See? Conservatives are terrorists. All the Conservatives say "no we aren't that's not fair to generalise. It's the Neo-cons!" The fact of the matter is that there hasn't been an actual "Liberal terrorist attack" because Liberal terrorists don't exist, we libs actually care about other people unlike Jared Laughner and Breivek who were conservative terrorists. Conservatives, you're a bunch of lunatics.
The motivation behind this bullet could have been a moose rather than an elephant OR a jackass. It is hunting season ya'll know right ? The headline was meant to do exactly this. Cause comments like we have here. You all are so easily manipulated like a dog heards sheep.
Most of you jumped to the conclusion you did because your so opinionated and blinded. Both sides are being completely stupid and ready to rip each others heads off.
People-racists come from all walks of life. Politics has nothing to do with it. I agree with Avenger. It is hunting season after all. And high powered rifles do carry a long way.
Wow, some of the comments today are without any merit. Who knows how this happened and who did it or even a clue, just keep being baited, people. As for legally owned guns, you still do not know who did this, but you can assure MSNBC is baiting all of this as if we are to merely assume anything. Maybe it was a person who was miffed over Obama losing the debate ... who knows.
When people use guns to settle a fight, it just shows they don't have brains to settle it with words! The Republicans and Tea Party people are in an uproar because Joe Biden won the debate! Period! No one knows who did this shooting, but it was obviously NOT an Obama supporter! Paranoia has become the right wings new mantra! The hatred towards this President has become psychotic!!
One question to ask though. Who is better qualified to he a heartbeat away from the Presidency? Biden or Ryan? I would say, hands down, Biden! Ryan showed he is completely unprepared. Can you imagine him, sitting across from Putin? If he can't handle his own facts with Joe, how can he stand up to anyone?
The article said the detectives have not determined if the intent was to shoot the office. Many were claiming the shooting of Gabrielle Giffords by that lunatic was political. It was not. I like there is nothing about who did this in the press, yet everyone knows what happened. People live in their own little worlds of their own making, regardless of what reality is or isn't.
yeah, mr. accountability, and get real. and maybe the earth is flat, and maybe the kkk didn't string up black boys, but blacks did it to themselves. salvia, she was a politican, he was mentally ill, but you didn't see the video of him burning an american flag? it WAS politically motivated.
everyone's acting like this is the first time DNC headquarters have been shot at. it happened a couple of months back, in texas, doesn't anyone remember anything anymore? short attention spans or what??? it made the national news folks.
people trivializing this make me sick.
Probably a stray round from a dispute among the base. Happens all the time in Detroit, Chicago, L.A., N.Y. ...
Speaking of short attention spans, don't you remember not to long ago the guy from the GLTB went to the Family Research Council with a gun and shot the
security guard???? Had he not beem stopped, who else might have been shot?? Of course,m you libs
conveniently forget about that. Also, jared laughner was made out to be member of the Tea Party, inspired by a poster made by Sarah palin, to shoot Gabby Giffords. Of course, that turned out to be 100% false. In this case, we do not know who did this, or if it was intended to even hit the building. But of course, in the liberal mindset, they will fill in the blanks with their own ideas and suspicions.
It's definately a right wing nut..... watch and
see. Gonna drive em even more nuts when Obama wins a second term.
This is a sad action no matter who took the shot. The good thing is that no one was hit.
hey, i heard that guy was a republican who shot the security guard, there are republican gays out there you know. the palin sniper target was about promoting, provoking fear/violent subliminal extremism, not so much about laughtner. you're doing a great job of doing what you're accusing. he wasn't a registered member of the tea party, but of the republican party. he was a loner, right winged nut job. you should be able to find him burning the american flag on youtube.
oh yeah a charleyhorse, how about that romney bain capital flying a chinese flag on american soil on their bain takeover companies at senata in illinois? guess you repubs are a bunch of commie supporters now.
hey roger?...what an ass....
@Donald:
Actually read the Bible, then get back to us about how the god of the Bible defends the sanctity of life. Pay special attention to such passages as 1 Samuel 15:3 and the book of Levicitus. You might learn something.
Both parties have their share of fools. And frankly, regardless of which party this shooter belongs to, the shooter is responsible for his/her actions, not a political party.
Furthermore, when I see the disrespectful and hateful comments here by both sides, you people who make them, who display such attitudes, you assist in creating a culture where the envelope keeps getting pushed. Act with some civility and respect and foster a culture where disagreement does not become a trigger for violence so easily, rather than just bemoan it after the fact.
romney doesn't want to become president to support the middle class. he's like dick cheney. he wants the power to give all the big money contracts to his buddies in the mormon church. that's why he's talking up the middle east, plain and simple. this is all about big money profits in his buddies' (lds members) direction. why do you think they've been spending millions on advertising the past two years preaching what perfect people they are? this is huge forh guys foaming at the mouth for these big money contracts, who have been overlooked for years.
romney's senata, he owns 51% of this bain corporate buyout, is laying off american workers, while bringing over chinese to train to do their jobs back in china, all the while, they're flying the chinese flag on american soil to support the chinese, he forces bain to make them take it down, just yesterday, because of public awareness. so i guess you repubs are now commie lovers if you vote this guy in as your president.
I go back 50 years now. I don't recall a single republican shooting up campaign offices.
Every time I see the same thing proclaimed every time "It's got to be a Repbulican" Every single shooting, plane flying into building in dallas was a democrat or an independent.
Liberal College Girl
You clearly don't understand what you are reading.
It is God's creative right to do with HIS creation as HE see's fit. The earth is on loan to us for us to do as we see fit. Being it is on loan to us, don't you think he has every right to promote one over another. Allow one to live, and another to die.
The reality of life is that when a sperm enters an egg, that creates a complete set of bueprints for a new life including a construction schedule and self organizes to build not only a new human being, but a temporary shelter, a life support system to attach to uterus.
As long as we permit it to continue to be alive, it will grow into a mature human being at some point. Is stopping it murder? Well, I wouldn't want to be the one on the receiving end of any punishment if God thinks so.
Reeblite
I think you need to read this by the washington post.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/mitt-romney-and-his-departure-from-bain/2012/07/12/gJQAASzUfW_blog.html
In summary, he owns Bain Capital as a silent partner. He has no say in how the company is run.
Translation - the accusations are false. Bain Capital is run by a group of managers who make all of the decisions. Bain has made all those decisions on their own since 1999 when Romney took a leave of absense. When he returned to Bain after the Olympics, it was only to turn in his resignation. After he did that, his position was scrapped. It was the Romney-less Bain that off shored jobs, closed plants, and layed off people.
BTW: The Washington Post is not a conservative paper.
Another deranged mentally ill Ocuppier just like the ... Gabby Gifford, West Virginia, White House, Bat Man ... shooters.
Let's pull Libya lie but instead of a U-tube movie we'll say its some tea party terrorist.
DB Akron "In summary, he owns Bain Capital as a silent partner. He has no say in how the company is run."
Really now so your saying that stock holders in general have no say so or influence on how a company is ran? How can someone OWN something and not have some kind of say so? It does not matter that there are mangers or middlemen to do the work for him now does it?
It is like saying he has not control over the blind trust he has to manage his finances. Could he not fire them and get a different trust? Can he tell them how he wants to them to act wit his money? Why did the blind trust use every single dirty trick/loophole in the book to pay the lowest amount possible? Why did Mitt not pay any taxes in 2009 and is the reason he does not release that year of taxes. His dumba$$ did not even know that he did not pay any taxes that year until he had to look it up. Some great leader/financial genius he is, does not even know his own finances. Why did he deserve 20 million for not doing a damn thing? He really worked hard huh? Poor baby still had 14 million left over. What could Mitt not afford if he only had made 10 million or how about 7 million. How many Americans made over 7 million last year? Poor Mitt and the ultra rich don't have enough money boo hoo hoo.
You and others just want us to keep sending that 6 billion is aid to Israel each year and will vote for/sell out America to anyone who will blindly follow you into war. Why pay for a war or send your citizens to die when big brother will do it for you and PAY for it too. Thanks for looking out for America buddy...you know that country that came and saved the a$$es of how many Jewish people from a certain someone? Granted we could have been faster, but we did not have to do anything either.
Wrong. And interesting that you accuse others of "incedible stupidity".
You're may be basing your bias on one news source and one persons view -
- Fox News
Turns out that she hadn't seen him since 2007 and according to her Twitter account, "may have changed". She also tweeted, " the guy I knew was a polar opposite of the evil he became today".
It doesn't take much research to find you claims are lacking merit.
- Washington Post, CNN
- ABC News
- New York Times
- New York Times
Loughner was also known to be a follower of many anti-government conspiracy theories similar to David Wynn Miller. Miller claims to be a "Plenipotentiary-Judge", an ambassador, banker, postmaster, King of Hawaii, and a genius".
So claims that Loughner was a pot smoking liberal are pretty shallow. But keep on spouting distortions. It helps destroy your credibility. Also shows me who to ignore, which in this case is about 80% of the postings here.
DB, Really????
dig deeper. here's the kind of thing you find out when you do. romney goes right to owning the source.
example, Sensata Technologies in Illinois, a Bain takeover company who removed their American flag off their pole while training chinese engineers this summer and put it back up a week after their departure. their managment instructed irate employees, especially republican ones, to keep silent about the incident, until they were reminded by employees that being told that was illegal.
romney owns 51% interest in sensata technologies, forget about bain. this company was raided, employees laid off, still, happening now, and training future chinese employees so they can train outsourced employees in china when plant over there is finished. this is the guy whose going to provide jobs for the middle class, while he's stealing them out from under them now as we speak. plus he's supporting communist china....a vote for mitt means you're supporting the commies. plain and simple. republicans are going communist on us. they also fly chinese flags on our soil, until yesterday when bain ordered management to take them down because of the press picking up the story. he's a lying hypocrite. caught with his pants down.
also, companies like intel are hiring chinese employees (because our education system is so broken at the public level, we have the lowest SAT scores in over forty years) because we have no qualified candidates to fill these posistions. I see the flux of upper class asians moving to chandler arizona where an intel plant is. now they're building another one, so more jobs, meaning more asians moving here, which yes, translates to a few more small business jobs, but these posisitions should be filled by americans. president obama wants to help kids get better educations and make it more affordable, and insure that vets get an education. LDS republicans vote against education for veterans, hypocrites again, they're too busy on their missions(solicating new morom members) than to serve their country, as a general rule.
allow me to clarify, lds who hold office, there are mormon soldiers who help their country. i don't know of any personally, but i hear they exist.
Steven has to be totally delusional. I always love these holier than thou democrats who are quick to blame everything that happens in this country on "right wing white guys". I only wish they would examine and analyze this president's lies and missrepresentations with the same thoroughness and introspection that they afford to the rest of us. Somehow they overlook the incompetence, the islam favoritism, the lack of budget control, the media bias and support that Obama got because it was "cool too vote for the first black president." I don't care what race he is, but I do care about what he is doing to the country. Everyone should have to go see 2016 and Dreams of my Real Father before they are allowed to vote.
It could could be a non political reason, how many places are target of robe, assault, lost bullet, liberals are jumping to conclusions , however is hypocritical that Democrats blame and point fingers without the results of an investigation, learn something from Obama , who is still waiting for that report about how the attack of the American embassy happened, chill out.
ROTFLMAO!!!
Just so the crazies on the Right know, not everyone on the Left is a shrinking flower. Some of us have military experience. So got put on your hoods and bring it.
Name one.
Why do you assume it was someone from the right?
There was nothing in the article about who did it what there motive was,etc.
Since were speculating, considering the "Occupiers" respect for laws, rapes, destruction of public and private property, shutting down ports, burning the Flag of the United States of America, etc. I would say its a far more likely scenario its a pissed off "Occupier".
DFTT.
Chris, you don't have to. They feed on anything.
Mind Games...
Flawed argument. I highly doubt that anything above 2% of the prisoners you spoke off before they were elected voted at all. They cant vote now, so they are politcally irrelevant. Even if they are? can you cite a specific, credible source?
I don't like it when people just throw rhetoric against the wall to try to "spin" something.
That said, this might have been a conservative (I think good chance that it was) but we cannot judge a whole party, and a whole philosophy on just once individual or just one incedent. I am sure that many conservatives are horrified by the action as well as Liberals. Any out there care to say so?
Mind games, Have you ever worked in a prison? Do you know what goes on in a prison? Can you provide links to all this so called information on the prison population, and the gangs that exist in prison, oh, and their political affiliation? I would be real interested in reading it if you do, especially since I worked at a 6 level prison for 10 years, in the medium and max security sections. Educate me, please.
I think we can expect a lot more of these types of hate crimes, especially after Obama is re-elected. The veracity, vocalization and number of sociopathic racists in America is alarming. It's quite obvious most of the tea party and the Anybody But Obama people are motivated by racial hatred.
It's also interesting how loathed by much of the Republican establishment Corporate Criminal Romney was during the primary. Case in point is this film made by a REPUBLICAN Super PAC:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLWnB9FGmWE
Yet now they want to elevate him to saint status for the crimes he committed? Romney is only "their man" now because they had such a rag tag group of hacks running (with the notable exception of Ron Paul but his anti-war, anti-Military Industrial Complex stance is too much for the GOP's crony corporate tastes).
The Republican Party is crashing and getting more radicalized as it does. What's really worrisome is how radicalized the followers are getting. "Seig Heil" will be their next campaign slogan at this rate.
For the sanity, safety and survival of the planet, let's hope they never get elected, at least never into any real power.
I clicked on the link and I was not surprised with the dialogue (or lack thereof). Thanks for reinforcing my decision to stay Independent.
@zflynn
You are so right. One of the most conservative Republicans I know is downright scary. He goes absolutely ballistic to the point of pulling out his gun and threatening people that may say anything negative about Republicans and his hate for Obama is based on one issue COLOR. Obama could be the best president this country ever had and he would still talk his nig... trash. These are the people Romney and Ryan embrace with open arms.
Mind Games
You say republicans children are perfect. Mitt Romney was a bully in school, then a draft dodger during Vietnam. He has been telling lies to the American people. He is flying the flag of China over a Bain Capital company in Illinois. The only reason he was never in jail for assault during his bully days, is because his daddy was rich. And they bought him out of trouble. You need to get a grip on realty. If you really are a prison guard, you should be put on leave and get help for your mental problem.
Those that think that Hitler can't happen in the States need only look as far as the republican party.
Did Joe Lieden borrow those teeth fromthe DNC's mascot ( the donkey)?
B what was your military experience a secretary?
B Coutant,
Yes, but your experience typing will not help you much.
Come see me and I will teach you some military combat lessons...REMF.
NC obviously wasn't ever in the military, just a troll living in his mothers basement, mad at the world because he never made anything of himself. "Military combat lessons"? a dead give away that has no clue what he is talking about.
Mind Games - if you believe people in prison are liberals, then you really have no clue as to the mind set of most inmates or where you worked has a vastly different population than the prisons in my state; most of the inmates here in Kentucky are white, rural and very conservative.
and no one wants to go to prison just to get free rent and food, except maybe some homeless drunk/addict, as I have seen a few of those seriously down and outers get locked up on purpose
as to the general topic
I make no guess on the politics of the shooter, lots of crazies out there with guns.
Iam woman, Lets see, one allegation of bullying that has been denied by the now deceased "victim's" family, so Romney was a bully in school. In case you don't know this, during Viet Nam people actually got deferrments from the draft. They were legitimate, draft dodgers ran away to Canada! But of course, by your standards, Romney was a draft dodger just like Bill Clinton!
John in Battle Creek, of course Hitler could happen here! We already have Stalin!
this is a testament from a worker in late auguest, at the sensata plant in illinois that mitt romney owns 51% of...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFwpEFh9lME&feature=player_embedded
and this guy cares about this country????
Couldn't help but cut and paste this.
"I don't like it when people just throw rhetoric against the wall to try to "spin" something.
That said, this might have been a conservative (I think good chance that it was) "
Is this an oxymoron or just a moron?
Scotty,
In 2004, a washington post article researched this. Some states permit prisoners to vote. They found that 65 - 90% of the prison population that is permitted to vote, votes democrat depending upon state and prison of course.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A9785-2004Aug17.html
Now, knowing this nugget, in 2008 over 1200 convicted fellons in Minnesota voted in the election. In Minnesota, convicted felons do not have the right to vote. The Senate race was decided by 300 votes. Al Franken the Democrats won by 300 votes in a contested race AFTER recounts and legal manuevers to count undervote in a selected few democrat held precincts.
Given that Felons vote at a minimum of 2 to 1 for a democrat, The democrat got a minimum boost of 400 votes he should not have received.
DB Akron - I stand corrected and thank you for the info; as you stated it seems to be by state, I live in Kentucky and believe me most of the white guys were quite conservative. In Kentucky you lose your right to vote until you serve out you time in prison and finish parole, you can then apply for your voting rights back; I got mine back a few years ago.
I wonder if the statistics reflect the prison population demographics as a high percentage of blacks and Hispanics are incarcerated when compared to the actual population out side of prison.
Typical Republican reaction... Can't win a debate with words, so scare people with violence. Is there any doubt that these thugs really do cling to their guns and religion? I hope these scumbags are found, caught, and punished to the highest degree of the law.
Your very first comment on this story was
Now who's the zombie?
Cameron is playing whack a mole. Well done actually. Good debating skills there Cameron.
Probably a disgruntled employee. A Democrat ....some people will do anything for attention...just look at Biden during the debate....acted like a total lunatic....he did everything but roll on the floor and kick his feet in the air.
I have to laugh at people like you, who cry foul and claim it's "unfair" that Biden and the moderator didn't just sit there idly and allow Ryan to tell lie after lie to the American people; that someone actually called him out on his lies and held him accountable for the bullsh!t he's been shoveling.
- Cameron
Listening to Mind Games whining, don't waste your time. Trying to bring out common sense and intelligence is like taking to Clint Eastwoods empty chair. The right is fine when the Mis-fit Mitt and lyin Ryan can run off their lies and not allowed to question them. Lie, steal, cheat and whine, that's what the Repukes are all about.
Crazy Biden is what liberals define as a win? No wonder Obama and Company thinks the US has recovered...
Typical LOW DOWN aristocratElitistRepublicanCrimeCartel method of dealing with THE OPPOSITION. Does ANYBODY remember the cat that was killed and "liberal" was painted across the animal's body? Listen Up People it looks like we are headed toward a Civil War: The EvilRich, who have NO end to their greed and No morality whatsoever. Just look at gas and oil prices from crude that was taken from drilling fields, PROPERTY OF The US Taxpayers, "health insurance companies ALL of who bleed people DRY with policy premiums while The Other World Countries have Universal National HealthCare Systems which take care of their Citizens. The FACT that our Country, America, Has NO Universal National Healthcare System so that Lyin'Ryan and Rommel's Pals can Bleed Americans Dry IS A NATIONAL DISGRACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sister and Brother Americans, You watched Lyin'Ryan Discharge all of his
spiritual vitriol Lying at Biden and the national media;Except Biden, AS WE DO,
see through EddiMunster's RUSE. Ryan's budget cuts to "balance the budget"? School
cuts, food cuts, national service cuts, NO MORE MEDICARE, You Sick? Die Quick!!!, and NO MORE SOCIAL SECURITY: These Evil B@$T@RD$ Have to pay for New and Profitable Wars at American's Expense.. BUT! BUT!! THIS LYINGB@$TARD wants to extend EVEN MORE Tax Evasion Bonuses for his masters, THE EVIL RICHrepublicanCrimeCartel. This Treasonous criminal and his "boss of bosses", MittTaxPittanceRommel, makes
The Mafia look like Mary Poppins. Their aristocrat/elitist power bosses ARE THE
B@$T@RDS who raised gas to $4.60p/g, Retarded Hiring so jobs are scarce, Created
the insurance company "health care" Gold Mine for the thieving healthcare
insurance industry, AS Rommel's pal AT united healthcare TOOK HOME FOR 2008
SALARY! $128,000,000 *C A S H* for That year ALONE!! while united healthcare PAID policyholders
were denied and died.You know what? OUR America, the most advanced country in
the world, DOES NOT HAVE A UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE SYSTEM,
so as to leave WE Americans at the mercy of the health insurance SHARKS like united heathcare, IS
A NATIONAL DISGRACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You Know what I saw in this latest debate?
I saw paul ryan, as the pathetic puppet doing the LYING and Bidding for his EVIL
EVIL Aristocrat/Elitist 1-10% Rich and Corporate Rich Bosses. You KNOW How This Aristocrat bunch were Disposed of during the French Revolution in 1790? With a FINAL Date With THE MADAM. Here is a Very Very Very helpful link you wil find both interesting, amusing and
insightful.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og35U0d6WKY&feature=player_detailpage
Really a republican did it , let me tell you something I have had numerous Romney bumper stickers painted over or destroyed by so called liberal Democrats , or Obama lovers and you say Republicans did it.
The true sad statement here is someone is getting desperate enough in the great economy with great employment opportunities and a back breaking federal deficit to fire a shot in some political parties headquarters. I guess there is only so much Hope and Change some people can take before they move Forward.
Unless the legislators in this nation take the budget head on and solve the problems together the stability of the country will be up for grabs...I for one don't want that to happen to America. Time for some bi-partisan solutions don't you think?
"typical republican reaction.." SHEESH, don't you people ever get sick and tired of playing the F--king BLAME game?????????? GET THE HELL OVER YOURSELVES!!!!!! NOBODY knows who did this.....Most idiots that do crap like this DON'T vote anyway. I can't frigging wait thill the F--king election is over so at least some of this BS bitterness, attacking the other side bulll@!$%# can slow down. I know it will never stop though, more's the pity!!!!
NSS10
Stop filibustering then. Maybe something will get done!
You're all wrong.
A disgruntled Obama campaign worker tried to shoot her boss over having to fill in more fraudulent absentee ballots for Obama. Like a typical Democrat, she kept MISSING her target...
Atlas Shrugged:part 2 10/12/12 (for democrats - October 12, 2012) Shows what life will be like in America if Obama gets re-elected.
NOBAMA 2012
-J.G.
bahrrt, you seem to forget(like most libs) obama had both the house and senate for the first two years there was no filibuster. try again and maybe you can come up with a viable excuse for this failed president. He did nothing for the middle class NOTHING if he did it would not even be close in this election. Think about it why are so many people pissed off if he was so good for us. He could have been the greatest president ever he HAD the American people behind him, but he sqandered it away he is a good bull@!$%# artist nothing wore. No he and you will pay the price he is going to loose this election. He failed get over it.
Mindgames, you are as full of stuff as that pimple Ryan...Most democrats are feeling the same as VP Biden, we are getting sick to death and have had our fill of the republican lies...a lot of hot wind with no more substance than a damn nasty fart.
We can only stand the stink so long before we have to open the window and let in some fresh air.
RMC
Go to google and type in "Number of filibuster threats during 2008-2010."
A threat of a filibuster is enough to shelve legislation. Have fun reading.
@LostHisMindGames
Hate to brake it to you MindLess but every Dem no matter if they are right left or center will never vote for Robme. You see, we are smart enough to know that a vote for Robme will give him the opportunity to put one or two more FAR RIGHT whackjobs on the Supreme Court that would in time make laws that would make Citizens United look tame. Also I think most Independents recognize that putting two more Conservatives on the bench may finally bring an end to the great American experiment.
So I think you better count on your own sad little party of misinformed citizens that have no mind (like yourself) of their own and can only listen to talking heads and party leaders that really don't give a rats ass about the little people in their party but wet themselves when they talk about the 1%ers.
FactoftheMatter, thanks for making the point. You know, I used to think I was Independent. Then I noticed this seemingly ever increasing trend: When a Democrat said something, there was usually some spin, but the basic jist was true. When ever a Republican said something, there usually was a key part of the story they were leaving out. Now days, it's almost unbelievable the increasing number of times I'm finding Republicans/Tea Partiers made stuff up ENTIRELY, out of whole cloth! What the hell?! I used to have some respect for the Republicans, in some instances more so than the Democrats, but you guys have just gone off the deep end. I don't know how anyone who's half paying attention can vote for your utter bull@!$%#.
You guys are freaking out over nothing. Firing one shot in your general direction is just how they say hello in Colorado.
@ dgeding
"You guys are freaking out over nothing. Firing one shot in your general direction is just how they say hello in Colorado."
I thought that was Texas.
RMC
My case goes to show the Republican ignorance on the true accomplishments of this POTUS. They would rather have their own versions of the "truth", like a modern day Obi Wan Kanobi. Really?
Why did Obama have so much trouble getting his AHA bill through then? Hmmm. Maybe because of Republican opposition? You think?
Thanks for playing and have a nice day.
OBAMA/BIDEN 2012
Typical liberal reaction. They know that their short lived "mandate" is over so they stage an "attack" on a window.
Get a job.
NOBAMA 2012!!!!
those who trivialize this make me sick.
this is not the first incident. a few months back in texas, the same thing happened. republicans are nice people, aren't they? shooting at dedicated democrats supporting their candidates? threatening to fire employees who vote democratic? right winged hate ideology that led extremists to blow up abortion clinics, and yet we don't see anything facist with these acts of hate? the independents are going to support this hateful behavior?
by the size of this storefront, you really think this was a mistake? typical radical/skin head tea pariers in action. don't let anyone fool you, it's intentional.
for starters, get your facts straight... laughtner was a right winged radical, not left winged. this happened in my back yard of arizona and have read enough reliable sources to back it up.
i find it rich, how a mormon corporate raider is right for this country, whose responsible for eliminating jobs in this country, he's now miraculously is going to create now. romney could care less about anyone, except his rich mormon cronnies, the rest of the mormon church, and the rest of the rich. period. he will destroy the middle class, and we will see martial law, if he's elected. there will be rioting in the street because of outrage, when he cuts all programs that benefit the middle class and the poor, education, veteran's benefits, medicare. and then hands social security over to the theives of wall street to spin for commissions until there's nothing left. whoops, sorry. the rich use you and let you die. this guy does not care about you or me or anyone. just cutting taxes for the rich. we hear waren buffet and bill gates say they wouldn't mind paying more in taxes, it's fair. you think bush was bad economically for this country? he and ryan are george bush on steroids. bush eliminated close to a third of theete middle class, if romney's elected, he'll hit the last nails on the coffin for the middle class. romney and ryan are banking on your stupidity. they keep talking about small business when obama's plan will not affect their taxes. romney bets you don't know that 87% of small businesses don't make over $250k a year, and president obama only wants to raise taxes on those who make over a million annually. wake up and smell reality republicans who don't make a hundred thousand a year. mitt romney will, and i repeat will raise YOUR taxes. and he will cut them for the elite rich, who took and take your jobs from this country, not create any. president obama has a comprehensive plan, once the economy is stable enough, to continue to develop small companies, give tax incentives, and now reduce spending. romney was a one term loser in massachussetts, voted the worst governor of alltime in that state. romney's the anti christ. time for the facist tea partiers to go who are invading our state laws infringing on our civil rights. send the message loud and clear. VoTE DEMOCRAT.
No they don't say hello to you in Texas. They figure most other people are not worth wasting a bullet on.
where is ted nugent's tour tonight?
It was definitely not Ted Nugent. He would not have missed.
Shame there wasn't a radar controlled machine gun on the roof. We'd have one less teabugger.
So, you propose killing republicans? Real mature. I guess it would be real news when they plan and carry out bombings and killing public officials. Wait, that can't be. Obama's friends (Bill Ayers) did this and no one cared. You political hacks are all the same. You need to pull your head out of you butt and start listenting to the issues, not the party.
Hey douche, just a bit of education for ya, NOT ALL REPUBLICANS are Tea Party. There are quite a few of us that don't espouse thier rhetoric or thier whacked out ideas. Just as I know there are SOME, not many, Democrats who are not libtards, and I generally DO differentiate between em.
And in typical democrat hypocrit fashion, you want a radar controlled machine gun on the roof, but yet want gun control and an end to the Military Industrial Complex. Make up your mind would ya? It also seems funny some democrats talk about how republicans are trying to take away your constitutional rights via the patriot act, but you same morons are the ones crying about taking away guns (your 2nd amendment rights). All I can say is you folks really seriously need to pull your heads out, and figure out a clear, concise, and constant message.
As I said before, even though I do not support Obama, his policies, or your political party, I do support the people who are volunteering and collecting a paycheck to support thier families. I am glad no one was hurt, and THEY can at least go home to thier loved ones.
@Will
Sorry dude, but a vote for Romney/Ryan is most definitely a vote for Teabaggers. Ryan is a teabagger through and through and that's a fact jack. He's just to much of a weasel to admit it to the American people. I'm sorry you don't have a Ray-Gun type Republican to vote for but hey not my problem. Maybe next time you can nominate Jeb, I'm sure he's more of a true Republican type. All the garbage Romney wants to bring to America, Jeb brought to Florida and that's why the state is on life support and deeply in debt. But that seems to be the way Republicans roll.
Colorme:
I am a Democrat these days, as my posts on here typically demonstrate, but that is because of the Tea Party influence in the R party. That said, I have to call you on your Jeb Bush comment. Florida is struggling so much today because its previous prosperity rested largely on the housing bubble and catering to snowbirds' desires for vacation or retirement homes. Another large source of revenue was tourist dollars. Those dry up during difficult economic times. Jeb Bush made what I consider some questionable decisions as governor (he had no business in the middle of the Schiavo case, for instance), but on the whole he was fairly close to center with right leanings. He governed NOTHING LIKE his brother, whose tenure in the WH I consider one of America's greatest tragedies. I don't know if I could ever support Jeb in a run for the WH, but that is more because I would fear the possibility that W could in some ways influence another Bush admiistration, NOT because Jeb himself would be a poor choice. Yes, folks, Florida DID get the "smart brother," and I honestly feel this country would be in much better shape today if Jeb rather than W had been president. And this is coming from a staunch Obama supporter! I long so much for choices again on our political front instead of the stark contrasts we see today of the fringes dictating policies. The problem is, from my perspective, the radical Right calls anyone left of Attila the Hun "a rotten, stinkin' commie," and the radical Left is not content with anything less than a whole cloth change to an extreme left position for the entire country. The truth is most Americans' political ideologies are close to center and mixed, NOT radically right or left. For example, I support the concept of a strong social safety net for the less fortunate amongst us, but I'm quite tired of admitted murderers tying up our courts for decades with appeal after appeal. At the same time, I find my state (Texas) far too eager to implement the death penalty. After all, we have no remediation for errors with such a sentence. It should be preserved for those cases where there is no doubt, and all too often that is not the approach in Texas. I honestly believe most Americans hold very nuanced political positions, not the cookie cutter, black and white positions our current crop of politicians pander to. Today's politicians listen only to the loudest voices, not the majority voices. And the only way we are going to fix that is for ALL of us to become just as vocal at the ballot box as the fringes are. Our voting record qua percentage of citizens who vote is deplorable! How can we expect to empower and sustain a government that reflects our values if we don't make those values known?
Just to clarify, I lived in Florida during Jeb's tenure, so I saw first hand his impact on the state.
Liberals point out that it is THE RIGHT that cannot put on their pants w/o a gun...
and conversely Conservatives love to point to the Left's history of bombings.....
at least when the civil war breaks out
we all will know which side will be using which means to eliminate the opposition...
How well did guns work against the USS Cole, or the Beruit Marine Barracks or OK City....?
How much different would Waco have been if Koresh hadn't been just another gun nut ?
Have you heard the story about the gun nut bragging about his $500 semi automatic .45
and his $700 .357 Python & his $1500 AR-15 Assault Rifle & the private ammo dump in his basement..."Yes SIR, for 3 grand I had security & the ability to "drop dozens" if I ever need to " he said to his Liberal neighbor .
"Well, for $10 worth of Diesel fuel, $30 worth of fertilizer & a $20 rent-a-truck I can level a city block" replied the neighbor !
So WHOM is the real fiscal conservative in that picture ?
Mind games at least your name is right, rightwing nut jobs at it again, can't take a butt kicking, without pulling out a gun, it's because they all have very tiny packages, so they want to be able to pack something.
O&JOE
O & Joe need to go!!!! They had their chance and by Obama's own words he didn't do the job he promised so let him be the ONE TERM POTUS he already said he deserves to be!!!!!
Penis size comments, nice. You guys are getting very desparate......sad. Do you have size issues your self?
B/ Coutant- I have to agree with you but it would probably pack more punch if you weren't holding a cute puppy in your picture. Anyway, the contrast gave me a laugh and broke up the intensity of such a serious subject as we have here. I am concerned with the fact that the right has such a radical leaning right now. Pandering to that leaning is a mistake the Republicans are going to have to deal with in the future.
Prove that the "shooting" was from a Republican and not staged by the Democrats.
What? No proof? Just more leftist hysterical raving? NO WAY!!!!!
NOBAMA 2012!!!!
NC= No Clue
Why am I not surprised?
Probably because no one likes democrats. They ask for it by making their nasty comments.
@in the middle
You should really change your handle because you're about as close to the middle as Robme/Lyin is. Maybe you should just call yourself "Browneye" that way you will truly be "in the middle".
colormepurple,
Now how can you make comments on this board while standing in a welfare line?
Civil folk don't shoot bullets over nasty comments.
Desperation!!!!! President OBAMA should have a huge rally at the site!!!!!!
Obama is too much of a coward to do that.
NC: Obama a coward for not showing up at the CO Headquarter?
If you knew anything whatsoever besides hatred, you would know that this President receives 4-5 DEATH THREATS A DAY. A president who moves into crowds of well wishers under those circumstances is definitely not a coward. And please don't give me the Secret Service protection bit. President Ronald Reagan was protected by Secret Service. So was President Gerald Ford and President John Kennedy. And when your unjustified hatred gets out of control through your mouth, try this: Go punch a concrete wall as hard as you can!
what was that?
I'll bet 35 cents that every campaign office in a major city has at least one security camera and a recorder. When the police say they have a "vehicle of interest" it's the one shown slowing down as it goes by, with the window down and somebody pointing something at the building.
And with the "Romney/Ryan 2012" and "I'm the NRA" stickers on the bumper.
....probably a democrat. They're aim is always a bit off. Americans need jobs, they pass health care. Americans want to end the wars, they start UAV attacks all around the globe. Americans want border security, they arm the enemy. Like I said, their aim is a bit off.
Hey, remember that Republican Congress everyone was so gung ho to elect in 2010, and how they were going to be all about jobs, jobs, jobs.... and then promptly got to work on abortion, abortion, abortion? So what did they do to promote jobs? Waiting.... Oh, block everything the government was doing? Well, that seems effective. And last I recall, we ended one war, and are in the process of winding down the other, while the Republican guys are hinting at starting up another. And seriously, you guys whine about lax border security, when more aliens have been deported under Obama then his predecessors. And Forbes and Congress found your whole Fox-obsessed fast-and-furious con was crap.
Denny,
You are correct. The Dems won't show it though since it will prove that they staged the shooting.
sully,
The GOP House was just following the Dem lead from two years earlier. However, they did pass two budgets and 30 jobs bills which were held up in the Democrat Senate.
Uh oh, Democrat obstructionists!!!!
You did know that Congress is both the House and the Senate, right? Hmmm?
30 job bills with either an abortation tag or a 1% tax cut. NO WAY!!!!!!!!!!
Retards with guns! Repeal the 2nd amendment!
The 2nd Amendment in its original form is a good idea.
It's the perversion it's suffered since 1791 that's screwed it up.
Then what Jackazz??? Repeal the 1st Amendment too as Obama would LOOOOVVEEE to see happen to protect the feelings of his muslim buddies????
Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a Winner!
Congratulations skrewdworld on being the first to play the "Muslim" card in this comment section!
Bob, tell him what he's won!
Well, Wink, skrewdworld will receive a lifetime supply of tea!
Remember, folks: "Tea. Turning the teeth of the English brown since 1664!"
gcooper, as long as we are keeping score, you lose. Because, you forgot to play the race card. I'm sure someone did this because they hate having a black president, right?
Remember folks "intelligence, evading democrats since 1964!"
Sorry Jack, some of us democrats are keeping our guns, we will protect ourselves against domestic terrorist. Right wing nuts have this illusion that they are the only armed citizens, as a vet, and as an armorer, I can guarantee you that is not the case. I not only qualified as an expert with more than 22 weapon types, I gained a lot of experience in using them. I am fully prepared yet pray that I never have occasion to use them, but being progressive and democrat does not make me weak, nor does it make me unwilling to step up and protect myself, my family and my friends.
US ARMY 1969-1986 retired
Obama/Biden 2012 for a free America
in the middle-2260511
Son, why in the Wide, Wide World of Sports would I play the race card?
That's Mitch McConnell's deck you're thinking of, isn't it?
Son.....an attempt to irritate me, maybe, to make me feel little??? Sorry, but I am stronger than that.
You must be high if you are going to ignore the left's usage of the race card at every opportunity.
Next?
"Son.....an attempt to irritate me, maybe, to make me feel little???"
Not in the least! Merely a colloquialism; a little drift into the vernacular, if you will.
Besides, I assume the state of Citizen Romney's campaign has already served both of those purposes you seek to ascribe to me. Why beat a dead horse?
@ Voiceinmyhead
I'm with you 100% brother. I'm a Vet also, and I don't think those big talking far right nuts have a clue what they're up against.
OK. Romney is on tape supporting, and signed, an assault weapons ban in Massachusetts. Obama signed legislation that made it OK to bring guns into national parks and on trains. Now someone explain to me why Obama is the one "coming for our guns?" And yeah, I'm a gun owner.
AS is THIS very liberal mom of two and not afraid to USE IT. I carry EVERYWHERE.
gcooper-You should definetely win the booby prize for lamest attempt at slamming anothers opinion. Your biggest "FAIL" is that I'm not a republican. And BTW I'm an independent, reformed dem who is Irish/native American.
Skrewdworld & In the Middle - Children's table to the right >>>>>>>>
colormepurple,
Come and see me. We can talkk and I can correct you. I will show you what a combat veteran can do in comparison to a REMF like you.
NC-492358 is a Troll. A Troll is an individual who visits blogs and news commentary to incite and makes ridiculous statements intended to anger... no facts at all. How do you reason with a Troll? Simple... you don't. You just ignore them. It just drives them crazy. Oh wait a minute! How can you drive someone crazy who has been crazy most of their lives? Now we're back to, JUST IGNORE THEM.
I wondered how long it would take to get to this. Now the haters are bringing their guns.
OBAMA/BIDEN....2012!!!!
Let me guess they are only haters when they disagree with you? But when they shoot up Family Promise they are patriots right? Circular liberal logic is sure a convoluted mess. What is next you going to chip everyone in the nation with an RFD tag? Oh, I guess that is on the table for medical care under the ACA. So much for freedom loving liberals. So much for tolerance and inclusion by the big tent party. Goodbye to reason and logic...never the thought that this is an isolated incident that could involve alcohol, drugs, or mental illness...lets just blame politics from across the aisle.
Next
NSS you are one sick puppy.
NIce point.
Haters? So, you admit this was a democrat? Good job.
Heh. You guys are funny. Yeah. The party that's the bastion of white folks who hate minorities, want them deported, and insist Obama is a socialist, Kenyan, muslim.... but LIBERALS are the REAL haters? I know that somehow makes sense on Fox and Limbaugh, but you realize how freakin' laughable that is outside that bubble?! Of course you don't. Please. Carry on.
Yes, liberals are the real haters. They hate America and Americans.
Agreed. Liberals are not of sane mind to be able to have guns.
NC,
No we just hate stupidity. As in Republicon troll stupidity.
Why can't real Republicans, like Steven, who is more objective come out of the woods. We have these Santorum-like sickos all over the place.
You aren't Republicans your are something else. Something worse. And bad for the country.
OBAMA/BIDEN 2012
If this is what they do when their man is a point or so ahead of the president in the polls, what're they going to do when they lose in November?
Not to worry, the shooter is most likely another chicken@!$%# NRA/Tea-bagger who'd never face anyone on even ground.
"If this is what they do when their man is a point or so ahead of the president in the polls, what're they going to do when they lose in November?"
They?...They? do you think this was a coridnated action by the GOP/RNC? Do you think Romney slapped Ryan saying "you failed me for the last time..." and ordering another man to go kill an election worker as retailation? Oh come on, this was maybe one guy or two who probably mentally disturbed, maybe drunk. I don't see Republicans out there in droves starting riots and overturning cars.
However, yet to see one republican say this does not represent them...anyone to speak up? I hope to prove my point here
You ARE Correct WashVance. They, The aristocratElitists will try to price gas at $7.00P/G. Can you believe that these AristocratElitist Thugs control so much of America Economically?????The same scenario happened in France 1789 and look what the French did to those aristcrats...They were given a Date...With The MADAM.
Sister and Brother Americans, You watched Lyin'Ryan Discharge all of his
spiritual vitriol Lying at Biden and the national media;Except Biden, AS WE DO,
see through EddiMunster's RUSE. Ryan's budget cuts to "balance the budget"? School
cuts, food cuts, national service cuts, NO MORE MEDICARE, You Sick? Die Quick!!!, and NO MORE SOCIAL SECURITY: These Evil B@$T@RD$ Have to pay for New and Profitable Wars at American's Expense.. BUT! BUT!! THIS LYINGB@$TARD wants to
extend EVEN MORE Tax Evasion Bonuses for his masters, THE EVIL RICH
republicanCrimeCartel. This Treasonous criminal and his "boss of bosses", Rommel, makes
The Mafia look like Mary Poppins. Their aristocrat/elitist power bosses ARE THE
B@$T@RDS who raised gas to $4.60p/g, Retarded Hiring so jobs are scarce, Created
the insurance company "health care" Gold Mine for the thieving healthcare
insurance industry, AS Rommel's pal AT united healthcare TOOK HOME FOR 2008
SALARY! $128,000,000 *C A S H* for That year ALONE!! while united healthcare PAID policyholders
were denied and died.You know what? OUR America, the most advanced country in
the world, DOES NOT HAVE A UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE SYSTEM,
so as to leave WE Americans at the mercy of the health insurance SHARKS like united heathcare, IS
A NATIONAL DISGRACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You Know what I saw in this latest debate?
I saw paul ryan, as the pathetic puppet doing the LYING and Bidding for his EVIL
EVIL Aristocrat/Elitist 1-10% Rich and Corporate Rich Bosses. You KNOW How This Aristocrat bunch were Disposed of during the French Revolution in 1790? With a FINAL Date With THE MADAM. Here is a Very Very Very helpful link you wil find both interesting, amusing and
insightful.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og35U0d6WKY&feature=player_detailpage
WashVance,
I do not support the actions taken by the individual or individuals who shot at the campaign office. This person or persons do not represent me. There is one republican leaning individual who just said so. Thanks for reminding me what is important and what is not. America is not free unless we defend every ones freedom to disagree or agree.
thanks Not..Nice to know reason can exist on both side of the politcal spectrum
Republicans do not need to distance themselves from the act of a single nut job who's origins are unknown. No one knows who did this and for what reason, so I reject your call for republicans to denounce this act. Everyone should denounce it. Your implication that republicans are responsible and therefore owe anyone anything is rediculous. Wait for the facts.
in a way you are right, we are just guessing, but trust me, if this is some crazy person from the left, I will be the first to denounce them. I would denounce them if they shot at a republican! As a matter of fact i would be horrified at the state of this country at that pont!
Phantombeast: Yes, on the VP debate, Ryan was trying to use the debate like it was an uncontrolled blog like this. He thought he could throw anything at the wall and hope some of the Malarkey would stick. He found out differently. He ran into a buzzsaw Biden, who refused to let him get away with the hate blog approach. And Martha Raddatz, ABC moderator, called out Ryan's malarkey a few times by pressing him for direct answers to her questions instead of shadow boxing with the audience.
This is crazy -- to ERIC IN OREGON-- one of the Democrat Presidents, Bill Clinton, was also a draft dodger (if you call it that).
To Roger 3577868 -- I am a Republican, my deceased husband was a Republican (past county commissioner), my children are Republicans. My deceased husband was one of the kindest persons you would ever meet. I am always being told how kind, considerate and understanding I am -- not just by Republicans, but Democrats, also. You've never been around many people if you've never met a nice Republican.
Angeline -- learn to spell. Sesame Street ends was an "e" not "y". I know -- all my children watched it when they were toddlers.
I've never seen so much hatred and unkind words being used as I have in these comments, and most of it is coming from Democrats. Let's just wait and see what happens with this shooting thing. At any rate, it is the fault of the person who did the shooting --- not either political party.
I'm hanging it up for now. I do not wish to be exposed to so much unkindness and hostility. So, the solution is looking at something else on this computer other than this crazy mess!
I'm surprised with all the hate directed at the president by the right that this hasn't happened before.
Looks like the Republinazis are getting neverous, they know Robme the Corporate Criminal is going to lose and someone must be pissed that they spent all that corporate cash on a bad bet. The Corporate Mafia just did a practice run.
If you can not buy the election, and you can not keep enough people from voting, and you can not steal it then the Republinazis seem to think they can just shoot their way into the presidency. Shades of Nazi Germany, Seig Hiel Romney!!!!
Mark that's ridiculous. VERY few people if any at all will be disenfranchised by having to produce ID to vote. IT's just a load of BULL@!$%# that people can't get ID. Pretty much nothing you can do in this country without it including drive and have a damned bank account!!!!! GET OVER YOURSELF!
Except when you close voting booths earlier in some counties then others. Funny how Demoratic areas where closing earlier the Republican ones.
Screwed: actually the voter ID thing in PA was stopped by the courts because the range of eligible voters who didn't have a photo ID was between 100,000 and 300,000, and the state said that if even 30,000 people came in to apply for the ID between now and the election, it would overload the system.
So, using math, if the voter ID law was not stopped in PA, it would have disenfranchised 60,000 people AT THE VERY LEAST, and possibly as many as 270,000.
So I'm curious: do you consider 60,000 persons 'VERY few if any at all', or are you just entirely ignorant of the consequences of the policy you support?
Ha, can you provide details of your claim, please? Make sure they are verifiable.
OK snake so there's really 100,000 to 300,000 people that have these horrible tales of poverty and woe that keeps them from spending a few bucks on an ID card. So these hundreds of thousands of people can't get ID and so they don't drive, takeout loans, have bank accounts, even have a library card. You have tohave ID to even get a job!! Do they not file tax retruns because they can't get a SS card??? NO credit cards becasue the don't have ID??? How do they cash checks??? You can't even file for foodstamps and welfare checks without ID so explain how people get all these services or do they live in the sticks, off the land, no running water, electricity???? IF the ycan't figure out how to get an ID card the yprobably can't figure out how to vote either. I worked as a caregiver for folks with disabilities for 25 years. Every single one of them had SS cards, state ID cards and were registered voters.
Screwworld: What about people in nursing homes, especially in FL? They don't have cars and NO WAY to get to any place where they could get some type of official ID. Then there are people who have no cars, let alone driver's licenses because they are too poor to own autos and car insurance.
You are missing the point here. Being an American citizen, our right to vote is a precious right and should be preserved at all costs. We are encouraged to practice that right. So, why is it that republicans bend over backwards to discourage certain Americans from voting by making rules that make it near impossible? Would it be to catch a number (so miniscule) of people trying voter fraud in a national election? That's ridiculous. We know who the frauds are. They are the republican goons who are trying to make it impossible for certain Americans to vote.
Wasn't it the US who got rid of Saddam Hussein and his fraudulent voting tricks in Iraq?!!!!
Are you missing the point intentionally? The point is not that people in PA are too lazy or poor to go get an ID. The point is that the state can't handle the demand. They testified that they simply cannot process even a third of the low end of the range of folk who don't currently have 'acceptable' ID under the new law in PA. It is a logistics problem. That is why the court stopped it. If there were no logistics problem that would have disenfranchised AT LEAST 60,000 persons in PA, the court said that it would have let it stand. And you, of course, didn't answer the question: is 60,000 'VERY few if any' in your interpretation? That was your assertion, remember? You just made it yesterday. Are you going to continue to deny what the state said in court - that it simply cannot process that many state ID cards in time for the election? Or do you just not care?
I really am beginning to suspect the latter, since you do not seem at all bothered that so many eligible people will be turned away from the voting booth, because of a simple logistics problem created by a 'last minute' attempt at pushing through the new law.
'In the middle': If you want 'verifiable details', just google 'voter ID PA' and you can read all about it, since it is a court case and the judge's decision is a matter of public record. If you see something that contradicts anything I wrote, by all means, share.
There is a housing project in my city. On the fence that runs the perimeter, there are signs every 50 feet that say "Photo ID required to be on premises". The idea that the poor voters don't have photo id's is nothing but pure BS, and the only reason it is fought in court is to preserve voter fraud
Stunned: So you're saying the State of Pennsylvania lied when it testified that it had identified many times more eligible voters without the requisite ID than the state can handle in time for the election?
Well, they're all agin' ya. Everybody's lying because they all want to preserve voter fraud. Yeah.
Can't argue with that.
"Shot fired at Obama campaign office in Denver."
I was wondering when Dick Cheney would enter into this campaign cycle.
Looks like we have an answer.
It amazes me that the Left jumps to conclusions so quickly. They claim they are the ones that base their conclusions on facts, evidence etc.
Is there a Youtube video we should be aware of you guys can blame this on?
Not specifically this incident, but Youtube has several clips of rednecks in pickup trucks getting a case of road rage. One redneck got pissed off when a motorcycle passed him, gave chase, and tried to kill the biker with his truck. The other biker was behind the truck and videotaped the entire thing. Last week, a middle aged redneck followed a young black man into a Target parking lot in Oklahoma City, and shot him in the back, killing him, apparently over getting cut off in traffic by the black guy.
I guess you are trying to say that the NRA is full of liberals. Yeah.....right!
Many here are trying to say its someone from the right. The right is full of gun nuts who love God and Guns.
A gun loving nut from the right only gets one shot off?
And will they start protesting in the streets trying to take away the civil rights of any and all that disagree with them???
deprogrammer: You obviously don't know much about the Catholic Church. They have been largely Democratic for as long as I can remember...and that's a long time. You tried to shoot two with one shot..Republicans and Catholic Church. Missed on both...but thanks for playing!
You are in the slammer and you're judging OTHERS? Maybe if you ask nice they'll turn off FOX and put cartoons on for you.
I wouldn't be surprised to find out that the dems shot at their own office just to get some sympathy considering that the way biden acted like a two-year-old during the debate and showed the country what an idiot he is made more people want him and his loser boss out of the White House NOW!!!
Just wanted a news story to distract from them letting our ambassador get killed!!!!!!!!!!
You mean just like a couple of years ago when this exact same thing happened and it turned out to be a former Democrat volunteer?
I'm going to try and find the story so I can post it.
Oh god..this is getting sillier! Now an image of Obama looking at Biden "yes...good plan Joe..kill one worker, gain sympathy. I am sure he will be honored to die for the cause" One nameless advisor says "but..what about the election worker's family?" As Joe Biden comes out and snaps his neck, Obama laughs 'two willing to die for the cause"
REALLY? you really think that? Come on people. Again..isolated incedent, no horrible conspiracy here!
Good point Deborah, just as feasible as libs blaming it on repubs.
was wondering how long it would take some nut job like deborah g to climb out of the wood works.
Wow, only an idiot would believe Biden won that debate, and I am not a republican. 25 days and its going to be like Back to the Future, 1980 style. Romney will crush the dems and their socialist agenda. Not that I like Romney but Obama is done.
Deborah Z-1802803
For you to say the the Dems shot out their own window shows how narrow minded you are. The smart thing for you to do is to vote and keep your dam mouth shut. Who knows the window that gets shot out may be your own. This shows the true America. You may be part of that 47% percent that Romney was talking about but to dam dumb to realize what is good for Romney is not good for someone from the trailer park. I was being nice addressing your comment, so leave it at that.
I want to know how high the shot hit the window. That would tell a big story. If it were an "inside job" it would make sense just to shoot high knowing that no one would be in the way of the bullet and "window shot out at Obama campaign" would be all that mattered. The press could run with it and make it sound like some crazed Conservative.
Message to 'Mind Games'... you need to just change your name to 'Head Case'; now go take your meds so you can cope with and (maybe if a miracle occurs) understand (everyone else's) reality a bit better.
Btw, proud Dems and moderate (FORMER) repubs were thrilled and very enthused with Biden's correcting weasel lyin ryan at ever lie spewed.
Obama/Biden 2012... Hillary/Warren 2016!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Speculation is the name of the game.
I suspect its a Pissed off "Occupier" because he didn't get his Bailout.
David, you're right about one thing--it's just speculation at this point. But there has been way too much incitement to violence and hatred going on in this election, and some nutbags are sure to act on it.
Whatever happened to the "good old days" when Reagan said "There you go again" to Carter? This partisan poison is threatening our nation.
Go that right Alan..
What do you expect when the right wing conservative talking heads keep inciting violence against anyone they see as opposition and the so called conservative "leaders" stand idly by waiting for some nut job to make it happen.
When did any right wing conservative incite violence?
Would you like to talk about the "Occupiers"?
I Love this one.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/are-occupy-oakland-members-in-favor-of-child-sex-trafficking-wait-until-you-read-what-theyre-saying/
If they would protest an anti child sex trafficking conference what wouldn't they do?
What do you expect when the left wing liberal talking heads keep inciting violence against anyon ethey see as opposition and the "so called" liberal "leaders" stand idly by waiting for some NUT job to make it happen.
See just how easily the labels interchange??????
Some crap from a right wing rag like The Blaze? Why don't you just post the junk about the "rapes, drugs" and all the other BS about the OWS movement from Breitbart while you're at it.
more proof Romneybot Righty Conservatives are a terrorist organization and shiuld nor even be allowed to be on a ballot in this country!! Arrest them all, run them through a chipper shredder and use them as fertilizer since the are nothing but crap anyway!!!!
FRANK ole man...WHERE IS YOUR PROOF???? Do not have any You say....thats par for a Dem. is it not....You know like Your buddies Obama and Bozo the Clown Biden....Last time it happened in 2008 it was an idiot that said He did it so the people would think the hillbillies hate Obama....it worked so why not try again....after all the Dems. know the amount of brain matter their voters have.
Maybe it was drug dealer related?
Thank God President Obama was not injured. I could not even imagine the Damage that would come to this country with a President Joe Biden for over 3 months
more proof Romneybot Righty Conservatives are a terrorist organization and shiuld nor even be allowed to be on a ballot in this country!! Arrest them all, run them through a chipper shredder and use them as fertilizer since the are nothing but crap anyway!!!!
wow, so somebody doesn't have the same politics as you and they should be violently killed. Stalin would be proud of you.
not the same politics is not the issue, they are damaged goods. we need to find a cure for conservatism....
After last nights Crazy Biden show I'd say its more likely a disgruntled liberal, and not a gun shot, more like a rock throwing.
About time we elected a competent moderate.
Romney 2012
Mitt Romney is a sociopath. He is devoid of a conscience and is religious fanatic. He is anything BUT a moderate. Get a clue.
Your pretty loose with your definition of a sociopath. And religious fanatics? The Trinity United Church of Christ is got to be tone of the most racist radical christian churches in the country. Anyone who has spent "twenty years" under the spiritual guidance of the likes of Jeremiah Wright has got to be questionable and far from appropriate for leadership of anything except maybe the black panthers. Obama's agenda and ideas for our country have obviously been heavily influenced by that environment.
Congrats. You elected a racist ideologue who made it obvious before hand that he had nothing but condemnation for America and that he favored redistribution. He is now spearheading the same racist and divisive agenda spewed forth like vomit in that wretched church.
And who can possibly be any better at lying and pretending and manipulating than a Harvard educated attorney. Except maybe, a sociopath.
When all else fails, drag out the old stand bys: Reverend Wright and Trinity and how he "hates America". Just like a good tired old teahad talking point to beat to death that is almost 6 years old and has NOTHING to do with this. Such a good little teahad you are repeating your tired lying crappola.
I didnt vote Bama but you must of watchd some other show he had control of debate.
Take your own advice Alleycat!!!! You really, really, really need quite a few clues because Obama/Bidens incompetence is glaringly visible to all with even half a brain.
The whole Rev. (WRONG) Wright thing is old news???? HE was Obamas' messiah for a couple of decades before he got a clue and disavowed him. Folks like you think that "flip flopping" is just fine though. And BTW I'm not a republican. Tore up my democratic voters card and exchanged for independent status thanks to BO.
more proof Romneybot Righty Conservatives are a terrorist organization and shiuld nor even be allowed to be on a ballot in this country!! Arrest them all, run them through a chipper shredder and use them as fertilizer since the are nothing but crap anyway!!!!
really? Im a conservative. I have a Masters Degree, served this country is spec ops, raised two kids both graduated at the top of their classes, volunteer coach, and rescue dogs. Am I crap? You are pathetic.
So for arguement sake let's say this is a right winger, and i'm not conceding it is. You will condemn a whole group for the actions of one person. Though your party is against condemning a whole group for the murder of our Ambassador at the hands of a ruthless mob. MOB as in many more than one.
Hmmm interesting
The action of a single person should not be reflected on an entire group. This is pathetic.
To simply blame conservatives, right wingers, Tea Party based on the action of a psychopath is simply close minded and selfish.
Maybe a disgruntled employee
Lol.
Deborah- Please go back to fox and all the conspiracy theories, they don't play with people with critical thinking skills.
Just because Biden kicked Ryan's butt, and gave him a new name, it's not Lyin Ryan anymore, it's now Mr Malarkey! LOL
O&JOE
The shooting in Denver was probably a Democratic Party setup so they can blame the Republicans and cry racsism. Would not put it past the Chicago Democratic political machine.
Yes of course! Chicago! why didn't I think of that. You know, have you ever looked at a picture of Al Capone and Barak Obama? They could be twins. Do you think, maybe Barak Obama is aclone of Al Capone they made to look black to get more votes? It would explain his lack of birth certificate. Maybe Fast and Furious was actually a way to get illegal alcohol across the border to the speakeasies...
Just to make this plainly clear. that was Sarcasm
My same thoughts Ron.. the Dems are running scared, and will do anything at this point!!