Ahh, yes. Skaters. They bring so much positive to our culture (not). Can't we just hit them all with our cars?

jake you lack understanding of the situation which is understandable since you are clearly not a part of the sub-culture known as skateboarding. That does not make you a fool, however, ignoring all of the great things skateboarding has done for many people the world over does in fact make you a fool, sir.

@Tdubs

dont try to argue or reason with a person who still says "not!" after a sarcastic/ ironic statement. Odds are in 5 years they'll be glaring through their screen doors at neighborhood kids and collecting balls and Frisbees that land on their property... lost case

"Subculture" is just a pretty label for antisocial thugs, with anarchist lawbreaking tendencies. And please do list all the positive things skating has brought to the world, other than keeping such people occupied when they're not smoking pot, painting graffiti, or otherwise ruining as much as they can around them.

I'm shocked that such a group of outstanding citizens would react this way. It is a well documented fact of the high civic responsibility of these people I mean who would have thought that "freight boarders" people who load freight would do this............WHAT..........not "freight" but "skate"............never mind.

They had every right to go around terrorizing pedestrians and vandalizing businesses. It's the theaters fault. Just because they were filled to capacity was no darn good reason to turn those gentle, law abiding citizens away!!!< /sarcasm >

The theater should have been charging them to watch instead of giving a freebie and inviting a free for all.

What exactly have "skateboarders" done for people that others have not?

The situation?? A bunch of idiots decided to wreak havoc on the streets because a movie was full and they couldn't get in, am I missing something? Why would someone defend these idiots?

I was a skateboarder for 14 years. I've seen A holes like the ones they are talking about in the article all the time. It's a great sport if you are truly dedicated to it. These kids are just imature and have watched too many movies. And lets not forget that their parents probably suck at life.

The good news being that no arrests were reported even with the ones throwing bottle and rocks at the cops. This lets them know their conduct was acceptable to the police departments and they are free to do the very same thing again with the expectations that they will not be held accountable.

I hope the next time this movie is shown for FREE, someone will have the foresight to advertise the fact that there is limited seating. Even so I'd expect still there would be some whom a temper-tantrum resulting in damage to property is the norm.

Is a sub culture that spends a lot of money on decks, wheels, bearing, t-shirts, music and media. Arguably, skaters are really good for the economy and jobs. They are racially and culturally diverse and widespread. Skaters are smart, community aware and a pretty good group of people. I don't think running amock and destroying property is cool but not all skaters would do that. BTW, there are lots of jock skaters and is a group more likely to stick up for the kid being bullied than not.

Mike (comment 1.10) makes a good point above. Only 1 arrest? The cops should have been busting heads and arresting anyone breaking the law, which would have been way more than 1.

My 14 year old is a skater... and a Damn good kid!! He also plays football, currently their team is undefeated in the local league. He doesn't cause any trouble when he goes out, I taught him respect!

I would bet my left "Family Jewel" that he would never get caught up with something like this... I pray anyway... I've never heard anything bad about him from other parents, quite the opposite. He's a good kid... most skaters I've met ARE good kids...

Old man Daley had the answer to B.S. like this when he was Mayor Of Chicago. Turn the dods loose.

If you think these clowns are "bad". You shoulda seen us after "West Side Story", fingers snapping akimbo, cigarette smoking and dance-fightin' in the streets. We were MANIACS back then!

Skaters are smart, community aware and a pretty good group of people.

Just horrible at math.

elliot-3020456

They should have been shot. I'm tired of these lawless assclowns destroying other people's property.

What the hell about putting wheels on the bottom of a board entitles anyone to damage someone else's property?

Subculture? I see no culture.

This is why no one takes your opinion seriously when you post on a subject of real significance. Enough said.

I agree there should've been more arrests but also you can't lump all skaters together and say they are all bad. That is an ignorant thing to do, since not all are bad and there are several who do the sport because it does take skill to be good at. Also I don't think the theater is responsible but they should've (maybe they did) at least note that there was limited seating and it was first come first serve and possibly have a some extra security on hand but that is really it. Otherwise there was no call for what happened and the little punks that started it and were involved should've spent the night in lock up and be awaiting a court hearing. The vast majority of blame lies in the skaters that started this but theater has very minor blame for poor anticipation and prep and cops have blame for handling that way and not making sure more were arrested, IMO.

It is time

It is time

Doesnt sound like they acted any different that basketball fans, football fans, hocky fans ect..., skateboarders just get the bad rap from people because people dont understand the skatboarder in general

This is no different than idiot sports fans rioting because their favorite team lost some stupid game

As with any group, you're going to have a mix of Good and Bad.

The downside when it comes to skaters: The bad draw all the attention. The good... one in a million of them will be the next Tony Hawk.

In my youth, I use to skate too, and had my share of run-ins with law enforcement - typically they went like this:

"Hey, you, you can't skate here."

"I didn't know that, didn't see it posted anywhere, so... mind telling me where I CAN go skate?"

No rocks, no bottles, just a question that couldn't be answered.

Now, I understand both sides of situation:

Here's this plaza, full of nice new curbs and parking blocks, all ready for grinding and sliding, freshly paved. Perfect to skate.

Here's the shop owners, their @-holes puckered shut at the thought they might get sued if somebody blows a trick and breaks their [insert breakable body part].

Truth be told, skaters don't go around looking to get hurt and sue. They want to skate and have fun. Being laid up in a body cast and listening to some lawyer drone away is not fun. So it pretty much doesn't happen.

Jake,

And please do list all the positive things skating has brought to the world

A little research never hurts before posting....
http://www.tonyhawkfoundation.org/
http://www.shecklerfoundation.org/
http://www.timbrauch.com/

Just a few of many good causes that are backed by skaters.

What a bunch of low life losers.......hey all you punks out there that were involved....Get a f**king job and become a productive part of society.......I would a have put a rubber bullet in your ass if I would have been there........LOSERS!!!!!

Sure, some skateboarders are good, normal, working members of society, I've known a few. But most, like the group in the article, sadly, are not. It's a shame that they perpetuate the stereotype. Makes it harder for the few good ones.

Oh yes, those poor misunderstood skateboarders. They just want a place to skate, oh yeah, and vandalize and be complete dbags. I know there are skaters out there that don't, but your spokespeople make you look like the same trash.

I would turn that back around and say just the opposite Marie. Every social click in society has law breakers and law abiders, skaters no different. Of course a bunch posting here think they all skate on property they shouldn't be on and are generally outlaws, but I would say most are not.

When is the world going to wake up and ban all skateboards? When is the madness going to end? \Sarcasm off !!!!

So we want to ban skateboards because a few hundred a-holes decided to trash a couple of cars and windows? Maybe we should ban footballs, since most of those folks can't seem to stop binge drinking, raping cheerleaders and otherwise acting like fools. But wait, football is a "respected" sport. How bout soccer, whose fans have started riots involving deaths when their team loses. No one is talking about banning soccer balls...hmmmm, another "respected" sport. How many professional skateboarders have made the national news because of their actions. Maybe one in the last 20 years. Yet every day we see other supposed "pro" athletes arrested, shot, killed, in court, whatever...

I'm a fan of all sports. All sports have their douchebags. Skateboarding may have a higher percentage because of it's subculture attraction, but there are way more douchebags playing other sports than there are skateboarding. And both my kids skate and play baseball. Neither would have anything to do with this stupidity.

Im not sure what a professional skateboarder's personal inner struggle of whether to "damn the man" or take the money and ride has anything to do with the riot...

McTwist and shout. Wipe out all over the place, baby.

professional skateboarder.

Inspiring youths to drive up the cost of health care everywhere...

"Inspiring youths to drive up the cost of health care everywhere..."

So do old people. What do we do about them? I vote soylent green.

Bumble Bee tuna has already tried that and it didn't work.

Idiots probably feel it is an entitlement. Obama hasn't weighed in yet.

1. I suspect most of these rioters were not kids, but at least 18 years old.

2. "vandals etched his car with the letter A for anarchy." That is a political statement.

3. Stupidity doesn't get you off the Court blotter.

4. This was a violent crime, by a big bunch of violent criminals.

"2. "vandals etched his car with the letter A for anarchy." That is a political statement."

I see it as more of an apolitical statement.

Apathy is a-political.

Anarchists have always done violence for their cause.

Bob and Mario - 'Anarchy' is vastly overused as a shock tool by misinformed youth as a way to push buttons against the establishment (i.e. their parents. guess how I know this). Much less likely to be a statement, politically or apolitically.

Mr. Biker -

You do not understand anarchists. They are violent in the 19th century and resumed since the 1960's.

Anarchists commit violence, again and again.

Anarchists are clearly political and violent.

Ride free, but don't attack.

Propaganda of the deed, or attentát, was espoused by a number of leading anarchists in the late nineteenth century, and was associated with a number of incidents of violence.

Anarchists have believed that violence (especially self-defense) is justified as a way to provoke social upheaval which could lead to a social revolution. Errico Malatesta, an anarchist-communist, propounded
that it is "necessary to destroy with violence, since one cannot do otherwise, the violence which denies [the means of life and for development] to the workers." Anarchists with this view advocate violence insofar as they see it to be necessary in ridding the world of exploitation, and especially states. Emma Goldman included in her definition of Anarchism the observation that all governments rest on violence, and this is one of the many reasons they should be opposed.

President William McKinley was assassinated by an anarchist.

The current "Biker Image" is of violent anarchists. Work on your image.

I offer no address in fear of retailiation.

I think you missed my point Mario. It was that just because you see an 'A' spray painted somewhere doesn't mean it is the work of true anarchists who know the meaning of the word.

I agree with you completely as long as we are talking about true anarchists. I just don't think we are in this case.

btw- you assume a lot from the term 'biker4life'. I may be a violent anarchistic 1%er (older meaning of that term) crazy outlaw harley biker.

OR I may be a guy that loves everything on 2 wheels (motors or pedals) and has ridden, raced, wrenched and/or built in all known disciplines of the 2 wheeled variety at some point in his life. That's right, that included road bicycles, mountain bikes, dirt motorcycles, roadrace motorcycles, dirt track motorcycles, etc, etc..... ridden and/or raced a few Harleys too.

No-where does it say they were on pot or smoked out. If they were they would have chilled out and sat on the curbs "relaxing" and smiling.

Not necessary, weed also causes mass paranoia, halucinations, and in circimstances aggression... the brain isn't functioning normally therefore people are far more prone to do things they never would if they weren't under the influence of ANYTHING, even marijuana!

cnelly,

You clearly have never smoked pot. Otherwise you wouldn't be repeating such nonsense.

ROFL cnelly why not just keep spreading lies about something you obviously know absolutely nothing about. You opinion of marijuana belongs in the 40's with the rest of the lies they used to make it illegal. Pot was made illegal as a control measure for Mexicans, every Mexican labourer smoked it and therefore making it illegal gave probable cause... sorta sounds allot like the papers laws they are pushing down in the south doesn't it?

You will not hallucinate, and paranoia and aggression are common and natural in even the most sober people... Your ingornace makes you sound like an idiot, I'm sure you are not so in your defense just shut up about the topic you know nothing about.

John Hunt, I'm a certified Drug Recognition Expert. I can testify all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court as an expert witness in drugs, alcohol, illegal, legal, over-the-counter, etc. etc. the physiology on the body, poly-drug use, and that physiology. I'm well educated, well trained, I've been a skateboarder most my life too as well as surf, body, snow... I'm pretty sure I know just exactly what I'm talking about. You know it's never too late to get an education yourself... unless you've smoked so much weed it's fried too many brain cells and literally made you more stupid. (That's where the term stoned came from by the way... Brain cells don't reproduce like our other cells, marijuana amongst other things kill those unreplacable brain cells... so end result you literally become dumber and stupid) There I educated you today, now it's up to you to continue so you can get a job to have money to pay for your weed.

Maxxa... It's not an "opinion" in the least. I'm educated, by doctors, physicians, drug experts, I am a Drug Recognition Expert and well educated. I won't argue with you, because it's pointless to argue with idiots anyway who are apparently, obviously uneducated. Get an education of the most recent medical knowledge (21st century within last 5 years), not that it will change your mind, I'm sure you can't read, let alone understand large words and medical terminology, but a physician probably could read it to you, then draw a picture for you to maybe understand.

Going to school to be fed lies doesn't make them the truth. And we are all certified experts on the intewebs~

I can certainly understand you concern for braincells though as it appears you were born with a lack there of.

It's studied decades of medical science... Didn't just go to school, and my education did NOT come off the internet, but I have far more first-hand, in the field experience than sitting in a classroom. You actually are required to have more "field training" then classroom, but you get plenty of both (both of which are long, intense months at a time), you must recertify every 2 years, know everything verbatim and pass with 100%, because of what we do there's no room for error.

When you have a better argument, fact, research, proof to backup anything you say, let me know and I'll easily continue to embarass your ignorant (uneducated/misinformed) ass. In the meantime to make it fair because you DON'T have the education I do in this area... I know let's have a "spelling B", we can even start with something easy like "d-r-u-g" or "c-a-t", why don't you pick, I want to give you a fighting chance.

Hmmm... cnelly's response certainly doesn't sound like something that would come from a professional expert witness.

I gave up drugs decades ago, and I make no such claim. But still- if one claims to be an expert on it's effects, it would seem one would have to partake of those effects personally. It's true that any mood altering substance can affect people differently and unpredictably, and given the right circumstances a cup of coffee or a cigarette could send a person over the edge. So in that sense your claims have merit.

or rebals without a clue!

Or spelling skills, apparently.

You talking about bringing back the "Wild Wild West" 6 shot revolver with them stars behind my boots to grind in their eyes when they are down? I'm up for that. Could've been like a video game. Shoot 'em as they roll by.

There's definitely not enough "Darwin Awards" given every year... you know awards for the biggest dumba**** that take themselves out and help clean our "gene pool". Either way the gene pool doesn't have enough chlorine!

Does the culling include the bankers and speculators? If so, I'm all for it.

True, but it doesn't take much.

Skateboarders < Police

Other way around son.

If they had killed every rioter, I'm sure the community would have been better for it. But wait, it's California, so all the bleeding hearts would be so mad that the police would have the audacity to impose some sort of law. How dare those evil cops stop the punks from doing whatever they want!!!

"vandals etched his car with the letter A for anarchy." They were making a political statement.

They are not just a bunch of delinquents. Do not tread lightly on them.

I wish the cops would have tread right on back of their punk necks. If you have a political statement, fine, make it. The line is crossed when you begin to terrorize innocent people and hold a community hostage because you don't have the intelligence to express yourself like an adult.

People should really look up the definition for anarchy..That's what they're political statement is, and make it they did.

Other than the Middle East where is there more need for a "cleansing"??? And I love Cali, I'm a "boarder" (skate, surf, body, snow) and shhhh... I'm a cop too.

Political speech is not protected when it includes vandalism of someone elses property. That sort of speech is not protected by the Constitution. They need to have their skulls bounced off the pavement. Punks deserve to be beaten.

I'll give you the definition of "Anarchy" if you want, but I don't recall it promoting violence per say... Anti-establishment, anti-religion, anti-government or I should say just the "restraints" of overly-controlling entitiies, and rebelling against being "controlled", but doesn't promote violence or breaking the law, but depending on who you are and your interpretation, I suppose some would think breaking the law and violence is exactly what "Anarchy" is... too much T.V. Oh, and I do love S.O.A., this season rocks!

Propaganda of the deed, or attentát, was espoused by a number of leading anarchists in the late nineteenth century, and was associated with a number of incidents of violence.

Anarchists have believed that violence (especially self-defense) is justified as a way to provoke social upheaval which could lead to a social revolution. Errico Malatesta, an anarchist-communist, propounded
that it is "necessary to destroy with violence, since one cannot do otherwise, the violence which denies [the means of life and for development] to the workers." Anarchists with this view advocate violence insofar as they see it to be necessary in ridding the world of exploitation, and especially states. Emma Goldman included in her definition of Anarchism the observation that all governments rest on violence, and this is one of the many reasons they should be opposed.

President William McKinley was assassinated by an anarchist.

Could only wish... that would have caused a real uproar and it would be poor, innocent, rioters and the big, bad, over-zealous, badge heavy, power hungry, civil rights violating cops! Back in the 60's, 70's, early 80's when someone got out of line, the cops could knock em' on their ass for an attention getter... people behaved much differently, and crime was much lower. Now cops don't dare do their jobs because if they even look at someone wrong (when they were actually looking at something else near the area of the complainant) they lose their job, the Department gets sued, they get personally sued and lose their house, vehicles, possessions, and then their spouse leaves them because they have nothing anymore.

Why should the government give anything to violent anarchists?

Makes no sense a'tall.

LMAO!!!

Was there a camel on a skateboard in the movie ??