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Samir Suljovic
A New York City man who traveled to Europe to visit relatives this summer has been stranded there since Oct. 1, an advocacy group says, because his name allegedly appears on the no-fly list.
According to the New York Chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, Samir Suljovic, 26, flew to Montenegro this summer to visit family and friends, but when he tried to travel back to New York on Oct. 1, airline representatives in Vienna, Austria, told him the Department of Homeland Security and the U.S. Customs and Border Protection had asked them not to allow him to board his flight.
CAIR says Suljovic is now in Germany. The advocacy group said it had demanded answers from the authorities, but have not heard back from the local U.S. Embassy or from customs and homeland security officials. Suljovic, a U.S. citizen born and raised in Queens, has no criminal history, CAIR says.
“This is outrageous,” CAIR-NY Executive Director Muneer Awad told NBCNewYork.com. “They basically ignored his calls for a reason why this is happening.”
According to the New York Daily News, the FBI maintains the no-fly list, and the TSA checks names against the list when allowing passengers on commercial flights.
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“This is not a unique case for American Muslims who have been traveling abroad,” Awad told the Daily News. “He has no criminal record, he has never been charged with anything criminal. A Muslim happened to be traveling abroad and it raised a red flag for no other reason than that he is Muslim.”
In a letter addressed to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano, New York members of Congress and the U.S. Embassy in Munich, CAIR states: "The denial of Mr. Suljovic's right to return home without due process of law constitutes a grave violation of his civil rights and liberties. Instead of protecting this young U.S. citizen while he traveled abroad, the government has effectively stranded him in an unfamiliar country without shelter or protection."
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An FBI spokesman told the Daily News the no-fly list contains about 20,000 names, and about 500 of those are American citizens.
“99.7 percent of the people who file complaints about the no-fly list, it turns out it has nothing to do with the no-fly list at all,” the spokesman told the Daily News.
In 2010, a New York man with the same name as Suljovic sued the Gramercy Park Hotel because management wouldn't hire him unless he shaved his beard, the New York Post reported.
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What a bunch of Racist scum we have posting here. The man has no criminal record and yet, because he's Mulsim, you and Homeland security have stated that he's not welcome. And as for CAIR not doing enough about Muslim Terrorits, I'd say the same thing to the KKK and Aryan Brotherhood, as they are as much terrorist organizations as the radical Islamists If this man is to be singled out, I would say then kick every Aryan-skinhead out of the country too.
I agree.....and ship the Progressives out with them.
What is your deal?I think you're a full time kitty cat
this is the result of what we have become...a police state...homeland security and the patriot act has stripped us of our constitutional rights...he was born here...born in america and some control freak idiot chose to put him on a list cause hes Muslim what BS...
Send out the bible thumping zealots as well
I was born and raised catholic and its the right wing Christian wing nuts that are the biggest threat to the constitution in this country
@ido, again an idiotic comment posted.
This is just making our country look even worse, the way we treat our own citizens. Let this man come home! He was obviously allowed on the plane to leave the country!
All he has to do is apply for a student visa. Home Land security lets all of them in.
It's a confusing article...it first says his name is on the no fly list...then the advocacy group says it is because he is muslim. Which is it ? I
f his name is on the list, then the reason is not because he is muslim. Others besides Muslims have been wrongly impacted by having their names on the list.
Well ironically back in 9/11/01 the ones who bombarded the twin towers in small jetplanes...were sent their visas VIA AIRMAIL to their P.O. Boxes...right after the incident...
What can we make of that? however innocent people keep getting denied and in NO FLY lists? we have become so paranoic is not even funny... :(
Montenegro is mostly Muslim although they do have a large number of Orthodox Christians. There are however some radical Islamic elements in that region following Yugoslavia's breakup. But I think the US was too unfair on Serbia who is entitled to its historic right to its historic territories. His apparent travel to a region temporarily may raise eye brows but in no way should it be a reason not to allow a US citizen return back home. If we suspect anything at all he should be given the option to undergo extensive flight risk assessment and be allowed to return and if we still have reason to believe we should be questioned for what, why, where, who and when, at the very least he will be in our custody. But I will not leave any US citizen stranded anywhere just in case if that person is innocent and the region is hostile to Americans, our state department should not take the inverse risk either.
Anti muslim posters here strike me as your garden variety racists who feel that somehow mixing their hate with anti muslim rhetoric makes them sound legit. \ The kid was born here, and unless there is some info beyond what the article has stated, he should be treated like every other american
Sorry, Mark...but, I dont see the KKK blowing up planes and skyscrapers. I see (ONCE in a while) other ethnic terror against buildings, but those targets are USUALLY (not always) against the GOVERNMENT, not individuals. I also see the Aryan brotherhood VERY strong...in prisons. NOT out here.
Get this. We are NOT going through metal detectors because of fear of the KKK.
And people wonder why this country is going to sh!t. Not a god damn one of you can carry on a conversation without resorting to smears or insults, and when you have a clear cut case of a man who has been charged of no crime, who has been denied his right to re-enter the country because of some bullsh!t no-fly list, and you jump onto the racism train and insult people based on their political leanings.
I can't wait to get out of this rotting joke of a country. People like you to deserve to sink with this ship.
let's see how many seconds before this post vanishes without a trace.
to quote from the article; "“He has no criminal record, he has never been charged with anything criminal. A Muslim happened to be traveling abroad and it raised a red flag for no other reason than that he is Muslim.”
my observation: you mean, like those folks who kindly brought us 9/11...oh yeah, except for that minor detail of welcoming the 9/11 group with open arms.
jeff-535466, just because someone is anti-muslim doesn't make them racist. That is nearly as stupid a comment as we've seen here so far. I've known muslims of four separate races...Nor does it make someone racist to disagree with someone else. Men cannot handle the responsibility of any religion. That much has been made clear repeatedly and is made clearer each and every day.
ldo
I agree.....and ship the Progressives out with them.
Because you can't handle any "newfangled ideas, thoughts or test better ways of doing things?" Quit breeding with close relatives and eventually you'll start having children who are able to reason again.
By reading every word of this article you learn:
1. He and his family journeyed to this country and ONLY he was not allowed to come back.
2. He sued Gramercy Park Hotel because they wouldn't hire him unless he shaved his beard which of course he wouldn't do because he is fundamentalist in his beliefs - and this is probably what put him on the NO-FLY list in the first place, because that is all it takes.
My opinion (for what is counts):
1. If our country will use such small reasons to do this to him, it will be us next (give 'em an inch...).
2. The government is using their screw-ups over 9/11 to justify over reaching their authority now, and we, the herd, the puppets, are buying it.
3. Again, we, the herd, the puppets, are not opening our eyes to domestic terrorism, KKK and Skin Heads, as they gather for their storm. YES THEY DO BOMB HIGH RISES! What do you think the Alfred P. Murrah building was???? Nine floors is high enough for me!
Katyyne you live in some naive fantasy world.Muslim terrorism in the U.S is more dangerous than all other violent groups combined.If this guy doesn´t like a dress code .tough luck.Masked Muslim Women also don´t get jobs at hotels.as you can´t look into their eyes and they also scare people.I suppose a hotel may not like people with multiiple piercing and tattoo.They can tell them how to dress also.Many Muslim men don´t wear beards-It´s not required either by the Koran or their religion.If Muslims don´t like the ways of secular .pluralistic society,they can go to sharia ones.I frankly don´t know why any Muslim would want to come to the U.S or Europe.For many good reasons most people don´t want them there. Too many are terrorists.If 10% or so of the Vietmese or British were terrorists they would have to be all investigated.No racial profiling just basic common sense.My 4 grantparents were all immigrants.We were accepted at least by my generation.The Muslims are not accepted because many don´t accept the U.S or Europe and want to change the country the´ve moved to or the country to adapt to them. A certain % are brainwashed mass murdering terrorists.The stakes are too high It would be negligent if the U.S didn´t warch VERY closely all Muslims.Elementary my dear Watson!!
They are going too far! You are naive if you don't think it can happen to you. There must be limits to government. That is why people left England and moved here to displace and attempt genocide on another people. There is nowhere else to go, so we need to get it right...
Just sayin'...
Kathryne,
I understood from the article that the man who sued the Gramercy Park Hotel over his beard just had the same name but was a different guy. Even if it was the same person, no reason to be on the "no fly list".
We have allowed our great country to become a police State based on the illusion of protecting us. What we've done is given idiots, racists and ultra right-wing crack pots the authority to make decisions on matters affecting our daily lives that they can hardly comprehend all in the name of security and patriotism.
Feel bad for him.On the other hand,it is far past time to shut the doors to this country
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He's a US born citizen from Queens.
But Matt, the man in the article suffers from the terrible awful disease of not having the proper shade of skin and this scares pained1 to death. So, obviously, if people have this condition and they leave they don't get to come back because pained1 is terrified of them raping the white women or listening to the devil's music, jazz. And besides, nobody in this country had ancestors who were immigrants and it's not like this country was founded and settled by different people from all over the world working and living together. Basically Matt, your comment makes no logical world sense...
*pained1, that was sarcasm*
Why is everyone making remarks about the color of his skin???? This man is white.....You guys do realize that he is Caucasian?!?! Arab nations west of the Caucasus mountains/Caspian Sea (which includes ALL the Arabic nations) are Caucasians--they don't look any different than any other Eastern European and some, like in Syria/Israel/Jordan--are just flat out blonde/blue eyed. The fear is obviously their religion--but no way it could be 'skin color'--that is absurd.
He was born here...what are you talking about? shut doors??? on what basis ???...if that was the issue then other countries may shut their doors to us as well simply because we are the ones AL QUOEIDA wants to kill...
And believe me, other countries don't want anything to do with it...
Publish the No Fly List on the Internet and let the people on it defend themselves
I agree!!!! The US government needs to openly publish the NO-FLY list to place it in plain sight, so all of us can read it. Just like Nixon's enemies list, which got exposed, its time to expose the NO-FLY list!!!
Best comment on here.....I agree....there is no way they should have a list with our names potentially on it and we have to find out when we are attempting to attend a business conference or something on behalf of our company and then find out we are somehow not allowed to fly. Folk could lose their jobs over this bull! If I were traveling with my VP and this happened to me, I would be mortified!
I fully agree with we have had eough. If the country to which a US citizen has traveled, there should be a public defender to protect the rights of traveling US citizens even if it means they traveled for business purpose. The simplest and cost effective means of reducing the risk to both parties is to make that person undergo through tight security checks and bring him/her back home. Then we can ask questions according to the US laws.
But I has gathered sufficient information through the last 15 years that the US unlike its closest ally UK, the US does not provide adequate advocacy and support for Muslim and Black travelers stranded or arrested around the world.
Currently more than 1700 US and African prisoners in China who have been in jail without trial. Some of them severely beaten up and and some of them possibly their kidney removed. The US has never made effort to question these issues. This was brought to my attention last year when the US made an arrest of a white US citizen in China and brought him back. The prisoner who is a graduate student reported what he saw but no action was taken by the state department.
Every one seems to be jumping to conclusions here. The article was a little light on specifics.
There isn't any doubt there might be names on that list that might be used by many people. How many Jones, Smiths, Andersons share the same name? It's probably true for other ethnic groups.
However, I'd like to know the timeline of the demand from the State Department as to why this country, even though he was born and raised here, does not want him on an airplane coming back.
We've never had any home grown terrorists right?
Why do we have the TSA? Why do we have the no fly list?
Before you judge this article and what one side is saying, it might behoove you to find out the other side of the story.
It might be an innocent mistake or it might be something sinister. We all need more terrorists coming back from overseas on airplanes....who cares if he was born here. Lots of people born and raised here, hate us enough to do serious damage.
I want to hear about what the State Department has to say first before I want to tar and feather them.
Mark ...Bravo !...well said. to the rest of you ...His is a US CITIZEN...BORN HERE, RAISED HERE,... Shame on YOU.
JTS 56 - Perhaps you had better check out CAIR's ties with the Muslim Brotherhood before you go trying to shame the rest of us.
If you buy their propaganda, then you haven't done your homework.
I have an adult child who has the same name as someone on the no-fly list. So far, it's only been a minor inconvenience for her and she's always made the flight she was booked on including international travel. Sadly, her name is fairly common combination of first and last names so there must be at least 200 females with the same name on the list. Fortunately, there is about a 40 yr age difference between her and the real person. That means the real "XXX YYYYYYY" is one mean Grandma.
All muslims should be on the No Fly List!! Does not matter where they are born.They are all bad people who want to kill non muslims.... Ha, and they call that a religion? Murdering hate mongers is all they are!
You obviously don't know or have met any Muslims. They follow a religion of peace and goodwill toward man. There are extremist Christens who believe in killing those unlike themselves as well bud. When you point a finger note where the other fingers are pointed.
As opposed to you, who would just prefer to kill Muslims?
Says the person calling for the extermination of an entire religion.
Your glass house must not have any windows left.
I did not know Eric Rudolph and Tim McVeigh were Muslim.
sounds like you know hate well mr star one?!!?...Im christian and own a couple of guns and believe in my constitutional right to bare arms but its you right wing nuts that dont believe in the rest of constitution cause it doesnt fit your bias christian extremist cou cou agenda
skunky, while I agree if this guy was doing nothing more and was only being profiled because he's a Muslim, it is wrong. And while I agree there are very peaceful Muslims, I'd like you tell me what modern day (not the past) Christians (extremists or otherwise) that believe in killing those unlike themselves? Especially as a group.
Very Interesting you asked: "I'd like you tell me what modern day (not the past) Christians (extremists or otherwise) that believe in killing those unlike themselves?" Let me see... Oh yes, Lord's Resistance Army. A Protestant Christian group from Africa. Responsible for massacres, abductions, mutilations, torture, rape, forced child labour as soldiers, and sex slaves. They chop Muslims, Catholics and other non Protestants into pieces during their raids. Let's see who else.. Anders Breivik killed 77 people and wounded 151 not too long ago. A Christian fellow. His victims were guilty of following a religion and having an ethnic heritage different from his. National Liberation Front of Tripura, a Christian fundamentalist rebel group in India. They massacre Hindus. They also force people to accept Christ at gunpoint. Indian authorities claim that as many as 5000 rural Hindus were forcibly converted to Christianity by these nutjobs in just 2 years. Oh yeah, did I mention that regional Baptist church provided them with arms and support? Thought you might like that detail. There are many other groups I just named a few. Christian terrorists have a pretty large congregation (I don't know if it's the right word:)). No different from Muslims, Hindus, Jews, Buddhists or Atheists. The only reason Muslim ones are more active is because they don't want us interfering in their countries. We got our nose into someone else's business. There is a reason why them crowds in Pakistan or Iran don't shout "Death to Japan". It probably has to do with the fact that Japan is not trying to force their way of life on the Middle East by military means. Or it might have to do with the fact that Japan does not have a track record of supporting occupying regimes such as Israel, or despotic kings and dictators like Saudi royalty or Hosni Mubarak of Egypt or Parvez Musharraf of Pakistan. You support someone that occupies and mistreats Muslims or tortures and oppresses them, and you will see yourself as a target of extremists pretty damn quickly. Had we done this to Hindus for the past 50 years we would see a Hindu no-fly list.
Star One, you are far worse then any Muslim, you are the epitome of what bigotry and intolerance is all about! You are the very opposite of what this country was founded on in the first place, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom from tyranny, etc, etc, etc! Bigots like you are the direct cause of all the wars of the world! Intolerant to EVERY thing that is different from you! You're the type of person, that down through the ages, have burned innocent people at the stake because you considered them to be Witches or placed the burning brand on the forehead of the black man you bought to work your fields! For you Muslims and their culture is just your latest excuse to hate, nothing more, nothing less..
You have no original thoughts of your own, you just recite rhetoric that has been spewed out of the mouths of bigots for generations..
What a great world it will become when people like you simply disappear off the face of the planet!
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When traveling use your full (middle included) name. That will help protect you a little more from the not fly list threat.
Good point, but what about those who do not have a middle name? And while I won't say my name, my first and last name happen to be the same, just slightly different in the spellings (I married into it). I got stopped at an airport once and I asked them if it was because of my name and they said yes. Of course, I showed ID and they passed me on, but what would happen if I go to some place like the Middle East? Whew? I don't think I'd want to try.
I always use my full name on documents.
It doesn't help.
Because, in my government files, I have AKA (also known as) "Al", I will remain on the lists.
"In 2010, a New York man with the same name as Suljovic sued the Gramercy Park Hotel because management wouldn't hire him unless he shaved his beard, the New York Post reported."
If a journalist figured this out, why has it taken the FBI 18 days?
So this other guy is on a list because he filed a suit for discrimination?...Why would that make him or the other guy appear on a no fly list? And if thats not the reason, then why was the hotel guy mentioned in this story? Just because he has the same name OR??? I'm confused.
Tainted,
Brain surgery can be confusing at times. Just do your best to keep up. Just read and move on.
Good luck.
If he can't fly commercial, he can come back on a chartered flight or he can just take a cruise ship back.
And I say the bill should come out of the FBI's pocket, considering they've done this to him while he has no arrest record and no reason to do this.
Ranman87 Do you believe everything people tell you? He's found himself on a no-fly list. Maybe while he was over there he wasn't a perfect angel and that's why he's on that list.
I'd be more interested in finding out when he got placed on the list. He flew out of the country apparently with no issue.
What about this~ what if while he was there, he attended a training camp for Al-Queda? Still want him on that airplane coming home to America to train others? If you believe one set of scenarios, you should be capable of some critical thinking about what else might be keeping him cooling his heels overseas.
But because he's a person believing in a certain faith, he should get special treatment? This is the impression I'm getting from so many different responders. It has to be a government problem, not a person problem, is that it?
The government has to be the bad guy all the time, right? Like when they stopped an attack on the Federal Reserve Bank in New York. Shame on the FBI for targeting, even religious profiling. Damn that FBI for trampling on someone's rights.
Shame this government for doing everything possible to protect her citizens, here and abroad.
I truly doubt that-that name- is on a no-fly list (and remember he had to do some work to get a passport) because of some typo or other misunderstanding.
As far as the State Dept publishing names on the no-fly list...are you people crazy? Why would they do that...so someone who is on the list for a darn good reason, can assume a new idenity? Knock Knock puddin head.
"In 2010, a New York man with the same name as Suljovic sued the Gramercy Park Hotel because management wouldn't hire him unless he shaved his beard, the New York Post reported."
Big deal. My son was told he had to shave his beard too for a job. He's not muslim but it was the company policy to be clean shaven.
I dang sure ain't no muslum but I was told I had to shave my beard... Just to paint Acura automobiles... Get over it losers..
It doesn't say it wasn't him and that man was 24, 2 years ago and this one is 26?
There must be a reason you are on the no-fly list. Muslims are being scrutinized everywhere including in Muslim countries NOTHING new here.
I think I feel safer with him in Germany
Just like when in WWII we decided to put our American born Japanese [many who had sons fighting for us in the war] in concentration camps, steal their property and treat them like criminals.
We also treat American born Italians the same way.
I guess we haven't learned anything in 60+ years. Racial and religious hate will always be the things that cause America to be vulnerable.
Suing private employer for discrimination, whether or not the suit was successful should not result in a person being placed on the "no fly list." Even IF he is the same person who sued, which is far from obvious. SHEESH! Plus, he is in Germany. Why can they not just put him on one of the many military transport planes that fly from there daily and resolve the "no fly list" issue once he is safely home?
Anyone who would self name themselves "nectie partie" with a noose as their "moniker" needs more help than anyone here could give them. Honey tell mommy you need your meds.
Sorry, I don't pride myself on being KKK, so maybe don't spell it so well. However you spell it, you are an ugly hateful sorry excuse for a human being.
I see that once again the morons here find it so easy to hate others that do not think, look, or worship as they do. I would also be willing to bet that the Muslim haters do not know anything about Muslims except the rhetoric that they hear on Sunday Mornings in their nice peaceful churches, spouted out by their beloved Priests, pastors, etc.
What about the Infidel Haters. Greggie-Boy? What are the Boys and girls down at a Radical Mosque being told?....You be dumber than a bag of hammers, ain't you?....
What about the Christians that hate?
What about the Mormons that hate?
What about the Catholics that hate?
What about the Jews that hate?
In case you have not noticed, all religions hate one another. And all religions have caused the deaths of tens of millions of people.
Really? You are going to try and argue that Jews and Mormons are equally responsible for "the deaths of tens of millions of people"? And last time I looked, tens of thousands of Christians weren't screaming "Death To America" at the tops of their lungs. Get a grip on reality, stop putting PC pussyfooting ahead of legitimate real-world security concerns.
Mila18-2288462: Last time I checked, tens of thousand of Christians Were screaming "Death to all Muslims" or "Kick all the muslims out of the country" or "Muslims are terrorists"--in more ways than one. Get a grip on reality yourself.
@ necktie party:
You remind me TED NUDGENT he usually shoots at things that can't shoot back...judging for your comments you must really believe that "skinheads and aryan brothers" are the way to go?
I will pray for you...
I have to agree with Mita18. There is something particularly offensive about a person who attempts to justify a threat in the name of political correctness. Those who lack the courage to confront evil should never minimize the efforts of those who do confront it.
I was stationed in Muslin country for over a year and feel I know them quite well and not from a textbook some liberal professor wrote to get a grade and get published. All over religions have changed with time yet the Muslin is stagnate to it's origin 8 or 900 hears ago. You don't and I don't know if he made contact with organizations over there or not. If so he should be permanently kept out of the country. We have enough trouble with the local hoods to have to worry about flying safely.
bummer. Weren't they the ones that took out the world trade and want to jihad every infidel. Sometimes it is confusing to them.
If he was allowed to LEAVE the USA on a plane, why the HELL would they NOT let him ARRIVE in the USA by plane?????
Hypocrisy and stupidity. Keep shooting yourselves in the foot, FBI / HLS, it really helps your image.
Agreed they wanna shine so much ... they will end up burning !
He's on the no fly list that doesn't mean he can't take a boat!
Its the big floaty things that travel the in the ocean......hey just a suggestion so stop having a cow over this no fly list,since when has the government ever put together a list that was updated or corrected......take a boat or learn to swim pal,Uncle Sam has clipped your wings!
Sure, keep acting like it's not a problem until it happens to you or someone you know.
Same old problem: How do you tell a Good Indian from a Bad Indian?
According to some posters here it is real easy. If the Muslim is breathing they are bad ones. If they aren't breathing they are a good one.
Has it occurred to anyone with the suggestions that "he should take a charter flight or sail back on a cruise ship" that he has already lost probably big time dollars on his originally scheduled flight and that maybe, just maybe, he cannot afford to purchase a one-way flight back (considerably more expensive than a r/t, or get on a cruise ship?). He has to get to where a cruise ship anchors and they are not cheap coming from over there either. I don't know what his financial condition is, but this has and will cost him plenty more than he may be able to absorb. I'm a fair pragmatist when all is said and done, and aside from the financial hardship and emotional toll, he has apparently been singled out without due process just on the basis of a shared name. He isn't the first and he won't be the last. Big government is getting bigger and their span of power is enlarging.
Is he holding a big black dildo?
He went to visit his family in Montenegro for the summer = There is obviously not a money issue.
People get put on a no-fly list for many reasons aside from terrorism. Can be failure to pay child support or taxes. Who knows. Let's see how it pans out before we start frying people.
Personally, I am sick of all the security at airports. I wish that a simple DNA test should be devised, where every person that is obviously not a blonde blue eyed person should be given this test at security. Maybe a swab of the mouth. If there is even one bit of Arabic DNA he whould be barred from flying. No pat downs, no people walking though X rays.
There should be an Arab only ariline. They should fly seperate. They caused this, so they should be made seperate. And I am a black man saying this.
I also think that people that look like they are of Middle Eastern descent should be put through the ringer at airports, and that others should pass through like it is 1985. There should be a seperate line for Arabs. Period. And again, I am a black man saying this. They did this to themselves.
Scew it leave the towel head over there. he probably went there to buy bombs
Once again, bigot... He's an American
Scew it leave the towel head over there. he probably went there to buy bombs
LOL, I know that isn't exactly a pretty comment but I couldn't help myself, LOL.....
I'm confused. What does the last sentence about a man not getting a job because he has beard have to do with this story?
Arrrrr, he shood hire hisself a pirate ship to bring him back, arrrrr....
I wonder if the Stinking president flew on commercial airlines he would be on the no fly list as well....lol