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Subscribe to RSSRacial attitudes have not improved in the four years since the United States elected its first black president, an Associated Press poll finds, as a slight majority of Americans now express prejudice toward blacks whether they recognize those feelings or not.
Those views could cost President Barack Obama votes as he tries for re-election, the survey found, though the effects are mitigated by some Americans' more favorable views of blacks.
Racial prejudice has increased slightly since 2008 whether those feelings were measured using questions that explicitly asked respondents about racist attitudes, or through an experimental test that measured implicit views toward race without asking questions about that topic directly.
In all, 51 percent of Americans now express explicit anti-black attitudes, compared with 48 percent in a similar 2008 survey.
When measured by an implicit racial attitudes test, the number of Americans with anti-black sentiments jumped to 56 percent, up from 49 percent during the last presidential election. In both tests, the share of Americans expressing pro-black attitudes fell.
"As much as we'd hope the impact of race would decline over time ... it appears the impact of anti-black sentiment on voting is about the same as it was four years ago," said Jon Krosnick, a Stanford University professor who worked with AP to develop the survey.
Anti-Hispanic feelings
Most Americans expressed anti-Hispanic sentiments, too. In an AP survey done in 2011, 52 percent of non-Hispanic whites expressed anti-Hispanic attitudes. That figure rose to 57 percent in the implicit test. The survey on Hispanics had no past data for comparison.
The AP surveys were conducted with researchers from Stanford University, the University of Michigan and NORC at the University of Chicago.
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Experts on race said they were not surprised by the findings.
"We have this false idea that there is uniformity in progress and that things change in one big step. That is not the way history has worked," said Jelani Cobb, professor of history and director of the Institute for African-American Studies at the University of Connecticut. "When we've seen progress, we've also seen backlash."
Obama himself has tread cautiously on the subject of race, but many African-Americans have talked openly about perceived antagonism toward them since Obama took office. As evidence, they point to events involving police brutality or cite bumper stickers, cartoons and protest posters that mock the president as a lion or a monkey, or lynch him in effigy.
"Part of it is growing polarization within American society," said Fredrick Harris, director of the Institute for Research in African-American Studies at Columbia University. "The last Democrat in the White House said we had to have a national discussion about race. There's been total silence around issues of race with this president. But, as you see, whether there is silence, or an elevation of the discussion of race, you still have polarization. It will take more generations, I suspect, before we eliminate these deep feelings."
Overall, the survey found that by virtue of racial prejudice, Obama could lose 5 percentage points off his share of the popular vote in his Nov. 6 contest against Republican challenger Mitt Romney. However, Obama also stands to benefit from a 3 percentage point gain due to pro-black sentiment, researchers said. Overall, that means an estimated net loss of 2 percentage points due to anti-black attitudes.
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The poll finds that racial prejudice is not limited to one group of partisans.
Although Republicans were more likely than Democrats to express racial prejudice in the questions measuring explicit racism (79 percent among Republicans compared with 32 percent among Democrats), the implicit test found little difference between the two parties.
That test showed a majority of both Democrats and Republicans held anti-black feelings (55 percent of Democrats and 64 percent of Republicans), as did about half of political independents (49 percent).
Obama faced a similar situation in 2008, the survey then found.
The Associated Press developed the surveys to measure sensitive racial views in several ways and repeated those studies several times between 2008 and 2012.
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The explicit racism measures asked respondents whether they agreed or disagreed with a series of statements about black and Hispanic people. In addition, the surveys asked how well respondents thought certain words, such as "friendly," "hardworking," "violent" and "lazy," described blacks, whites and Hispanics.
The same respondents were also administered a survey designed to measure implicit racism, in which a photo of a black, Hispanic or white male flashed on the screen before a neutral image of a Chinese character. The respondents were then asked to rate their feelings toward the Chinese character. Previous research has shown that people transfer their feelings about the photo onto the character, allowing researchers to measure racist feelings even if a respondent does not acknowledge them.
Results from those questions were analyzed with poll takers' ages, partisan beliefs, views on Obama and Romney and other factors, which allowed researchers to predict the likelihood that people would vote for either Obama or Romney. Those models were then used to estimate the net impact of each factor on the candidates' support.
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All the surveys were conducted online. Other research has shown that poll takers are more likely to share unpopular attitudes when they are filling out a survey using a computer rather than speaking with an interviewer. Respondents were randomly selected from a nationally representative panel maintained by GfK Custom Research.
Overall results from each survey have a margin of sampling error of approximately plus or minus 4 percentage points. The most recent poll, measuring anti-black views, was conducted Aug. 30 to Sept. 11.
'Hard-wired' with 'racial resentment'
Andra Gillespie, an Emory University political scientist who studies race-neutrality among black politicians, contrasted the situation to that faced by the first black mayors elected in major U.S. cities, the closest parallel to Obama's first-black situation.
Those mayors, she said, typically won about 20 percent of the white vote in their first races, but when seeking reelection they enjoyed greater white support presumably because "the whites who stayed in the cities ... became more comfortable with a black executive."
"President Obama's election clearly didn't change those who appear to be sort of hard-wired folks with racial resentment," she said.
Negative racial attitudes can manifest in policy, noted Alan Jenkins, an assistant solicitor general during the Clinton administration and now executive director of the Opportunity Agenda think tank.
"That has very real circumstances in the way people are treated by police, the way kids are treated by teachers, the way home seekers are treated by landlords and real estate agents," Jenkins said.
Hakeem Jeffries, a New York state assemblyman and candidate for a congressional seat being vacated by a fellow black Democrat, called it troubling that more progress on racial attitudes had not been made. Jeffries has fought a New York City police program of "stop and frisk" that has affected mostly blacks and Latinos but which supporters contend is not racially focused.
"I do remain cautiously optimistic that the future of America bends toward the side of increased racial tolerance," Jeffries said. "We've come a long way, but clearly these results demonstrate there's a long way to go."
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You reap what you sow.
I am a 21 year old white male from Wyoming. I honestly grew up harboring racial attitudes towards anyone that was not white. The community I am from is the same. My family is full of racists too.
But if a CNN camera crew came to my uncle's doorstep or someone else in the community and asked them if they have anti-black attitudes, they would say "absolutely not!"
But I have observed countless conversations growing up from local church leaders, my dad and uncles, guys on the bowling league - the silent racism is very much alive.
That is why I have steered away from those views. Hypocritical Christians. Once you question one aspect, you question everything.
I am now a liberal atheist.
Four years ago a lot of Americans felt good about electing our first president of color. He promised a new transparency. He promised a post racial society. He promised openness and fairness the likes of which we have never seen. Instead, he delivered the opposite. Bills were not posted online as promised. Debates were not put on C-span. The deficit was tripled, not cut in half as he had promised. His agenda became one of divisiveness and spending.... When anyone disagrees with his policies, his friends and administration play the race card. This certainly hasn't done anything to help attitudes toward people of color. I think Obama is very much to blame for doing a LOT to deteriorate race relations in this country.
I work with alot of liberal atheists who are hypocrites.
Wearing that badge might make you feel superior, but your comments indicate you aren't.
I think the poll would have more credibility if it also polled blacks and hispanics about their attitudes towards whites and each other for that matter. While my own attitudes towards others of different ethnicities have remained unchanged over the last four years, one group I have become less tolerant of, are those who would imply that simply by virtue of my skin color I might be more prone to racism than they. I am also tired of a liberal media that whips out the race card to excuse the under-performance of their favored candidate.
Sorry, but as a white person living in America, I didn't need a poll to tell me that America is still a racist country. Whenever I'm with a group of white people, especially with white Republicans, racist talk is rampant. Hasn't everyone by now seen pictures of the sign - Put the white back into the White House, enough said.
Sure FreedomFigtr, I know many hypocritical liberal atheists as well. Mainly on the liberal views perspective. Any well-informed atheist will not be hypocritical.
But I have found it to be quite alarming at how nearly every Christian I have encountered in my life, shows so much hatred and bias against other cultures and are racists. Polar opposite of the teachings of Jesus.
I am an old WASP, I have suggested multiple times on the vine this election is all about race and have been pilloried for expressing that observation.
However I find it contemptible and beneath the America I knew that we would settle for a White cultist who makes Jello look firm in it's positions, a person who panders to the worst elements of an already sick society just because his opponent is of a different skin color. An individual who in spite of 4 years of a treasonous congress attempting to politically kill him has done a remarkable job.
We as a nation deserve what we get, I just thank God my earlier life was spent in a nation that had at least a modicum of civility and will not be around when You people step on your collective cranks and become a third rate no account nation. You had it in your hands and you were too dumb to see what was going on in your own country, tell me why you deserve to survive as a nation?
dbpIndy
Do you get paid by the gop for those lies?
"The deficit was already running at $1.2 trillion when Obama took office, and it grew to more than $1.4 trillion during his administration"
http://www.factcheck.org/2011/06/romney-wrong-on-deficits-auto-bailout/
No. You don't "reap what you sow." What's bred in the bone of white male and female southern supremacists can't be scaped out of their disgustingly ignernt marrow. Today's regime of men like Karl Hitler Marx and Eddie Munster Ryan are the idols of the white supremacy in this country.
Don't kid yourselves that some of hot white male supremacists wouldn't turn the clock back and do the same thing to women if women started to outnumber them in the NRA, Senate or House of Representatives...So what does that really show these jerks as? Dumbasses with massive insecurity only McMommy and McDaddy can soothe.
If you have never voted for a person of color, creed or gender, you are a born and bred bigot. No excuses bois...time to look in the mirror at the angry middle aged men who can't abide the idea they are growing older and more unaccomplished as the days go by. This is why they want a cowboy mob in the White House...this is also why they can't face their own racism.
Personally , as far as Obama goes with the exception of being a "first" I really did not consider race, as I believe most that voted for him did not.
To think that racism would go away or dwindle with this first would be ignorant.Most races stick to their own, and have respect for other races rights. I do not see this trend changing that much.This does not make you prejudice, just sticking closer to those that can relate to you better, and staying with that which is familiar and constant.
We have came a long way as far as race discrimination. I do not believe this poll is completely correct,as most "evolved" people go by the person and their cander not by their color.
We are all guilty of prejudice at one time or another, this includes all races. Seems during high school and college you have more friends of a different race, after high school and college this trend usually does not continue. Bucking this trend,would bring down the % of discrimination. I believe this is happening slowly but surely.
I work with a lot of conservative hypocrites. My neighbor has plenty of them too. Hypocrisy is NOT unique to any political philosophy.
AP just found this out? The republican party has known this for a long time. It's Mitt's campaign strategy.
GCK-WYO - Just something to think about. More than 75% of Americans who claim a religion describe themselves as Christians. As this poll suggests nearly 60% of Americans harbor racist opinions. We shouldn't assume a causality between religion and racism when there may only be a correlation due to the high percentage of Christians in the US. Since in Wyoming I would imagine that most of the people in your community were Christians the fact that they were also racists may only be coincidental.
ewent - I would imagine that all of the people I've voted for over the years had a creed and gender of one sort or another. Since I vote based on who I think will do the best job and not based on the color of their skin, I don't actually recall whether or not I've voted for anyone "of color". We won't even address the inherent bigotry of your use of "they".
Let me clue everyone in, including the author of this story - EVERYONE is prejudice about other people; whether it be for race, religious beliefs, sexual orientation or any other of a number of things. EVERYONE feels one form of prejudice or another towards some other group of people. People who say they do not are lying. The solution is not saying it does or doesn't exist, but being able to recognize it in yourself and look past it and judge each person on their actions and merits instead of things that are inconsequential.
Even though Obama considers himself black, he is really our first half-black president. Said another way, Obama is also our first half-white president. Americans were and are more likely to vote for a highly-educated light-skinned black (who was raised by his white family members) than a darker-skinned black who was raised in the American Black culture.
I didn't care what color Obama was: I simply voted for the most qualified candidate that shared my liberal views.
This is hardly news. Read the comments section on any article that has anything to do with President Obama and the racism is blatant, even as the hypocrites deny it.
There is a racist element in this country of long standing. These people harbor fear and resentment that includes not only blacks, but anyone who is not a white Christian. They simply believe that their white skin makes them superior. They believe their religion makes them superior as well. The Mormon Church had openly racist policies until relatively recently.
Obama never promised that his election to the presidency would produce a "post racial society".
What is transparent to all but the blind is the backlash against a man with dark skin in the White House.
Hey GCK-WYO, you're going to see hypocrites everywhere you go, so you'll be changing your title "liberal Atheist" a million times over. If you don't like hypocrites, don't go to work because you'll find them there. Don't go to the grocery store because you'll find them there too. So from what you're telling us, you're not a hypocrite in anything?
GCK-WYO, What you stated is the unspoken truth. The racism that is expressed behind closed doors is explicit and pervasive within a large chunk of the white communuty. The sad part is that a vast majority of those that express such prejudice comprise the working poor and lower middle economic sections of society and will be voting for someone who will take actions that are against their interests. The lure of prejudice and hatred for Obama and minorities is so great that they choose to ignore that their handlers are conning them. I believe that the changing demographics of this country are perceived by the still majority white people as a threat to their long held grip on power on this country, and this fuels such feelings of prejudice. All of us need to be more confident about our constitution because if we truly believe in its protections, then it wouldn't matter how the demographics shift.
#gck;
But I have found it to be quite alarming at how nearly every Christian I have encountered in my life, shows so much hatred and bias against other cultures and are racists. Polar opposite of the teachings of Jesus
What an ignorant statement. Christians are the most giving compassionate people on earth. Their shared beleif in Christ with other races, as their savior brings them closer together sir ,not farther. YOur statement makes you a bigot sir.look in the mirror.
Churches are more integrated now than ever, do your homework sir. WOW. Noone would ever be turned away or treated badly at a Christian church because of race.
"All are welcome"
"All are welcome" lol it is halloween.lol
Fortunately, so much of this Bigot Class tends to be concentrated in the reddest of states, so more tolerant folks know ahead of time where they generally don't want to visit or live - right, Oklahoma and West Virginia? I mean, racists are always more comfortable living amongst themselves, anyway - so much so that their blatant collective hate levels can become quite amplified over time, and they have a really hard time keeping it all from oozing out, like a gi-normous festering pustule.
How totally ironic then that so many these Bigot Class states also have the highest African-American (and often Hispanic and other ethnic) populations, and thus, a larger per capita portion of government assistance being provided to the citizenry. They also have the highest concentrations of neighborhood churches. Hmmm... So much to hate - so little time, eh, Christianly TeaBaggers? Say, I hear there's lots of cheap, Black-free land available in Montana these days...
Since I have prejudice towards the extreme new Nazi like republican party I can see how we get to develop those prejudices. Mine goes beyond prejudice. Mine goes to hate and I voted for what would now be called Liberal republicans like Nixon, Goldwater and Reagan in these ultra extreme right wing party!
Since I have prejudice towards the extreme new Nazi like republican party I can see how we get to develop those prejudices. Mine goes beyond prejudice. Mine goes to hate and I voted for what would now be called Liberal republicans like Nixon, Goldwater and Reagan in these ultra extreme right wing party!
The worst groups are the so called Christians who say they go to church each week and are hypocrites!
COMPETITION breeds and causes racism I get tired of saying it. Without the cutthroat competition there would not be as much racism. Animals do it to. Locusts when they overpopulate or run out of food. They will split into two groups and change color/markings to look like each other. In other words they form gangs and have gang logos. Another comparison would be our current two party political system. How about sports teams, is there ever any rivalries?
Therefore, how and the f*** can you morons sit there and say that Capitalism does not breed racism, hate crimes, etc.? It is because we have to beat and defeat others to be able to succeed and win in this stupid a$$ system that you dumb a$$ motherf***ers keep voting/supporting. It can be proven with math that if someone makes 1000 times more then you then only 0.1% of the population can make the amount on average. What ever happened to 50/50? Women will leave a man unless they are willing to do 50/50. Why is it then many will insist that they go to work for a boss and kiss their a$$ for 1/1000? WTF kind of logic is that? It makes no sense AT ALL! And you wonder why "I have only ever gotten paid from a rich person" you dumba$$es? If you did not do their work for them they would have to do it themselves. How do/did women get 50/50? By staying and working, or by leaving/striking? THEN WHY THE F*** ARE YOU SILL SUPPORTING PEOPLE THAT EXPECT TO BE YOUR KING OR QUEEN? THAT ARE SHIPPING YOUR JOBS OVERSEAS? You should be pissed about it, but instead you are bending over and taking it with a smile. Which is not my thing, I am a man, and I do the ******* around here.
Printing money is temporary band-aid for a failed system to begin with. If your system needs money to be printed until the end of time THEN IT IS A FAILURE. Without high tax rates there are no brakes on the car we are all in. We are heading for a wall and there is a greedy rich person behind the wheel driving the car. They so worried about going fast and being rewarded that we will all crash and burn. Taxes are like friction in the universe and they provide a vital role. They stop things/people from breaking the system. We had a 90% tax rate in this country for a reason which is to limit the wage gap or earnings ratio between rich and poor. If one person has all the money then we need a 99.99% tax rate or else the system fails. How can the system operate if one person has all the money? IT CANNOT.
So why does it all so typically get hoarded and applied by the Right, as if it's their God-given... right?
Maybe whites have grown resentful towards blacks because they have been called racist every time they disagree with the president on any issue. "The president likes beer." "I like wine more"...."YOU'RE A RACIST!!!!"
Ironically, it's usually not blacks making the racism charge. It's mostly white liberals screaming racism over ANYTHING that anyone says. "Today a conservative said that he disagreed with the president on taxes. He's clearly a racist. Film at 11pm"
Sorry, the "racist" charge is no longer valid or scary because it is over used. It lost its power because of liberals. It still exists, but not nearly what liberals would have you believe.
I agree Coral Taxi....I think the problem with liberals is they see people who "call" themselves Christians as hypocrites, but are not. There are many in the US who call themselves Christians because they go to church, read the Bible, give to the poor, was christened as a baby....but all of that doesn't make anyone a Christian. It's a personal choice of those who repented and put their faith and trust in Jesus Christ for what He did for us on the cross. Now out of all the "born-again" Christian friends I have.....ALL of us are very loving to every race. We welcome them into our churches, we give to them, we also help out even if we don't know them. People have a skewed idea of what a Christian really is or I'll hear people say "I've tried being a Christian". Being a Christian isn't like trying a new soda "I tried that and I didn't like it", so I'm moving on. Being a Christian is a life-long journey with trials and joys along the way. I've been a Christian for 19 years now and I wouldn't give up my faith in Jesus for all the money in the world, it wouldn't come close. My relationship with Christ is the most important thing in my life.
I LOVE how the "non-bigots" immediately single out whites as the racists. Somewhere an irony meter factory is exploding...
The left, including AP will do anything possible to continue the divide and conquer scheme. If it isn't race, it's religion, or poor against wealthy, boss against employee, children against parents, Dems against Repubs, on and on. It is no secret that our black communities have more poverty, less education, more crime, and less ambition to move out of poverty than other communities. Sadly, the black community has fallen for the myth that Democrats are their saviours, never realizing they are the ones who keep them from success. When someone like Thomas Sowell comes along he is chastized, or like Bill Crosby and many good black leaders they are called sell outs. This country elected an African American Arab....don't tell me we are racist. You can keep stoking the fire of racism but you will lose, we are a better people and we know it.
Sometimes the truth hurts but is required to move forward. In my town the Government built a multi million dollar complex, or Neighborhood to house the poor and it was absolutely beautiful. They built it in a wooded area with 100 year old Oak Trees and such, a really nice place. 2 years later its completely trashed! Graffiti on the old trees, trash everywhere and the highest crime rate in the county. The Neighborhood is 95 percent Black. These are not made up numbers their real.
My wife and I have fostered several children from this neighborhood and most are missing fathers or have parents in jail.
Until the elder folks in these communities stand up and ask for self responsibility and accountability nothing will change. Change must come from within and Until that happens a large portion of society will have negative opinions.
And Yes their are plenty of White Folks who occupy this space as well, but the vast majority is black and we all know this.
One really fed up boomer,
I agree with you 100%. You hit the nail right on the head.
I, too, believe that racial prejudice has always been a factor in this Presidential election as it was in the last one. I think the reason that President Obama won the first time is because so many white folks did not think there was a chance he would be elected, so they did not vote either way, and were rather dumb-founded when it actually happened.
As a facilitator of non-denominational Christian Bible Studies, it has also been of the utmost irony to me to see Christians rushing to vote for a high leader of the Mormon church (a religion doggedly considered a non-Christian cult for decades). Instead, these so-called Christians label the President of the United States, who is a professed Christian, as an evil muslim.
Just yesterday, I saw in our local paper a lengthy article entitled "MEET THE MORMONS." There was also a long letter to the editor of the paper, inviting everyone to come out and meet the Mormons. It invited everyone to come out to the local school for a question/answer session and get to know how alike Mormons are to other Christian religions, then listed a few beliefs that were non-controversial. They did not mention the things mainstream Christianity does not believe such as Jesus is not Divine, Jesus is Satan's brother, believers can have eternal marriage to their spouse in heaven, God had sex with Mary, etc.
Or the fact that not many years ago Mormons did not believe black people were eligible to go to heaven.
Yes, interesting and ironic ... and disheartening.
To 1 fed up boomer I so agree. I have resisted all election season from commenting because I have just been flabbergasted about the level of hatred and bigotry and stupidity I have read here. Mitt literally came out and said I did those things Obama said he did in debates one and three and America bought it! The polls change dramatically all across the country because if you can vote for a black man who feels like this you might as well vote for me a white man who even though Im lying through my teeth im telling you I m taking the same positions that he has soo, vote for the white man! That has been Mitt strategy for the cameras view. IT has work perfectly. I too am a boomer raise in a mixed neighborhood. The one thing I think we learned was that a the end of the day people are people with the same potential good and bad in us all. I have watch so called christian just abandon the principles of honesty to align themselves with a LIAR that I am truly heartbroken at the condition of America. To Ewent you are so right and get a thumbs up.What is this preoccupation with our vagina on the part of the republicans that they feel the must legislate its every use? I live through the time of no birth-control and It was no picnic for women to have endless babies and husbands who left when the burden got to big and you had to finish raising them as a waitress or housekeeper because you had no secondary education. We fought hard not to become our mothers and these laws would surely take us back. I am pro life but recognise that these new laws are a disguise to totally control ALL reproduction.
@TM;
Very good.
Yes they do not realize that this is a personal choice not just a"lifestyle"ie going to church, reading your bible tithing, that is all good but is not what makes you a Christian. A shared bond with Christ actually diminishes prejudice against one another, as being prejudice, as you explain, is far from our philosophy.
One Love.
@ewent;
There are not that many minorities up until the last 10 to 20 yrs that have ran for political offfice,compared to the amount of whites, so if noone of color is running and I vote for the withe guy/gal, does that make me a bigot sir? Your ataement is bias
Any group denigrating another group will drive those groups to rally within themselves and put daylight between them and the other group. Once it starts it's difficult, if not impossible, to stop. And just like someone hooked on drugs must fall low enough before they can effect change, so must these groups.
And if the primary difference between the groups is skin color, then it is called racism.
When blacks claim general racism by whites, then, yes, they too are exhibiting racism. By it's very definition, it takes one to punch, two to fight... one to bitch, two to argue. And "who started it" has little relevance while in the middle of the battle.
So we have a black president. And just by racism's very nature, those that are racists will tend to line up in the opposing party. Was that party racist before we had a black president? It might have trended that way, but the alignment is much clearer today.
So this black president gets handed an economy that is crap, losing jobs by the millions and piling up debt like there;s no tomorrow. At the same time, even before he was elected, racist comments were made by individuals and interpreted as being from the opposing party as a whole. So the "racism" battle started early and hard. And when the opposing party leaders pledged to "make this president fail", that was the end of civility as we knew it.
So this black president had committed to unite this country. And faced with no less than a collapsing country, and in spite of owning a majority Congress, he moved to the center. For two years, he tried about everything humanly possible to unite the country and to work across party lines. It was tried in the beginning with health care reform but was given up on by Congressional leaders after hitting block walls for months. This set the tide and the direction for the rest of this president's term.
So for the last half of this presidency, this black president openly fought the opposing party. He spoke up when he saw raw opposition or heard blatant misinformation. He pulled out his executive powers and made moves he thought he had to to save this country from itself.
So now we are recovering slowly... polarized like hell, but recovering. And our foreign affairs has never been better in many eyes... even in the opposing party's eyes in many cases.
And here's the final question... who ultimately suffers and/or gets punished for racism?
We all do.
So who do we vote for? Nobody based on race or racism.
Vote for integrity and trust. Whether black or white or brown or green, you need to try like hell to set aside these escalated racist times and vote for who you know in your heart to be true and trustworthy. Question all that you are handed as truth. Dig deep. Do the right thing.
Personally, I hope to hold my head high after this election because I did my research across party lines and sites and made my own informed decisions.
It really IS that simple. So do it.
It seems the same old white men, perhaps one day they become minority and they would learn how it feels.
When Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton "represent" the black communities - - they are perpetuating the hate from that minority to the majority!!
After failing their first attempt to get along during Israel God new after writing the ten commandments; so he scattered us around and made us all different colors knowing we wouldn't get along; Our punishment
This is the very first elected President where the Republican party were bold enough to come out even before he was inaugerated and boldly spoke their hatred towards him and made a pledge to do anything and everything in their power to destroy his term and insure he would be a one term President. They did and they have made good on that promise even at the expense of the american people. Trust me though, these bigots hatred won't be felt by just a black president as they will show this very same attitude and maybe even more so should a female candidate become President. The right wing have just one agenda and that is to appease the corporate world. They absolutely need the little people's votes so somewhere around election times they will always toss out a table scrap and make big news about it like they actually have done the little people a favor.
One of the things I admire most about President Obama is the way he has held his head high and maintained dignity, self-control, and amazing grace during his first term as President in spite of the unprecedented disrespect that has been shown to him.
I will never forget when Rep. Joe Wilson from South Carolina shouted "You lie!" while President Obama was making a speech to Congress. Many people, including former president Carter, said at the time that Joe Wilson is a racist. I could not agree more. Anyone who doesn't remember this, should take a look at the photo at the link below. Look at the faces of the two men sitting beside Joe Wilson when he shouted this. Such evil grins on their faces. Sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words. This photo says it all in one glance and one word: RACISTS
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/10/congressman-yells-lie-obama-speech/
(And this is even Fox news' report on it. Shows how bad it was.)
I am a WASP and proud of my heritage, but I am also proud to be a Christian voting for President Obama again.
I voted for Bush/Cheney twice, and saw how little the GOP cared for America during those eight years, leaving our country in such catastrophic financial shape without a word from one single Republican in the four years since. I'm still waiting to hear the word "Sorry" from anyone in the Republican Party.
Republicans love War and Money. They are blustering wind-bags when it comes to the true things of democracy, patriotism, and honor.
LMarcT
1.36
very nice!!!
Looks to me like the Obama Plan is working. This article is a typical example of the presidents leadership, divide and conquer. A leader of people would not tolerate the use of race for his failures. Anyone that speaks out againt him is a racist.
To those blacks out there reading this, compare compare BHO to MLK. MLK was a leader, never once did he get on the pity pot and use his blackness for an excuse for a setback. Think of the greatness and respect that Obama would have achieved, if he would have used his blackness as a strength, as did MLK, instead of an excuse for failure.
Obama and his liberal media friends can take credit for the decline racial attitude that Dr. King spent is whole life to achieve. This article is about atempt to further that agenda. I am not going to say that Obama is directly responsible for the racial attitude decline but he did nothing to curb it. The only agenda from the White House has been class warfare, but I'm sure that was Bush's doings.
I was happy that a Black man was elected to be President of this once great country, I didn't vote for him. I didn't vote for the other jerk (McCain) either. If you voted for Obama just because he is black, then you need to look at yourself in the mirror and say "I see a racist".
NObama 2012!!
Paul"; what kinda gargle are writing? We as a nation have came a long way to better racism could you imagine if a poll was taken back then..and this entire article and its random selection can take a flying leap off the statue of liberty..Name one thing the Pres. has done to make racism worse?
Mr. Obama had absolutely nothing to do with the divide and conquer. The right wing deflectionists like to say that but the truth is that the divide was already in place long before Mr. Obama ever got into politics. The problem being that the king of oil, war and divide then conquer through their wallets, Karl Rove, seems to have you right wingers right under his thumb.
I worked worked with members of every race during my 20 years in the Army. Racism does exist. Every race has it's racists. It just isn't white on black. If you don't believe me, all you have to do is listen to Maxine Waters on one of her rants.
This poll was published for one reason and one reason only. You're a f_cking idiot if you think otherwise.
I already voted. And it was not based on skin color. As Kid Rock said, too bad he failed...
It is a very simple and completely true proposition to say that racial bigotry is ignorance, either by choice or neglect! Many ignorant bigots choose to remain racists and then there are those who remain ignorant because they neglect to seek out and absorb the truth! Either way, it is still ignorance and it is still bigotry!
GCK-WYO
I feel so sorry for you.
I came from a pre-dominantly white area. What you saw was not racism but prejudice. I'll explain this suscintly I hope.
If the only car maker you ever had experienced was a Toyota and knew no one having a Chevy. Would you buy a Chevy? Probably not, because your experience with Chevy tells you that Chevy is better. This is prejudice.
Now since you don't have work, you move to another area to get work and all the people drive Chevy. would you buy a Chevy? Probably not unless a Toyota was illegal (making Toyota illegal is most likely Racism - unless Toyota does not meet the requirements of a vehicle where you moved to). Would you eventually buy a Chevy once you had experience with Chevy. Sure you might, provided your new experience with a Chevy shows that Chevy is better than Toyota. Otherwise, you will stay with Toyota.
Prejudice can become Racism. Racism is prejudice with malice. This would be actively promoting Toyota as the superior product to Chevy regardless of the facts and not changing their way when confronted of the facts. The funny part is that no matter how bad the Toyota experience might be, you now hold an irrational belief that a Chevy is worse.
Most people in pre-dominantly white areas are not racist, they are prejudiced. If they become a racist, it is because they are taught by watching the TV news. I grew up and the greatest part of what I saw of minorities is what was on TV. That was minorities seemed to be the only ones commiting crimes. Granted there are greater percentages of minorities committing crimes, and that if you compare the percentage of Minorities committing crimes to the frequency they are in the news, they are over exposed as the Criminal. We are at the same time pounded by Democrats (79% of all journalists BTW) that white people are racist.
Obama being elected in 2008, aside from the financial collapse, was also in part from racism. If you voted for him because he is a black man, you were practicing a form of Racism. I don't know anyone who voted against him because he was a black man, but I do know a few white people who voted and minorities who voted for him because he was a minority. This is a result of teaching Americans that we are a racist nation and voting for him for some white person would be saying "I'm not a racist" and for others about elevating a race of people over the racist. I'm appalled at either of those wrong attitudes.'
I have great concerns based on this polling information that Obama has done more to harm racial harmony. Not because he was a black man, but because his wrong ideology will promote a racist attitude that black people are inferior, which they are not. His ideology is what is inferior.
In a sense it doesn't matter. I often say, anyone using the basis of race to promote or demote a race is practicing racism. To get rid of racism everyone must refrain from praciticing any form of Racism, whether finger pointing, or promoting a race, or demoting a race. Until then, racism is alive and well, the only difference is that the chains are not longer physical, but mental and emotional.
The election in November, win or lose, will be given a racial spin and one which we as a nation will be the poorer for it.
GCK-WYO - what you have allowed people to do is allow a political ideology use race to suck you into their side.
It is pretty obvious racists have felt emboldened to act in their stupid ways more publicly.
It is also pretty clear that we wouldn't have a black president in the first place if the country, as a whole, put race as their first condition for electing a president.
Those who thought racism would die with a black president were probably too idealistic.
What they did not say is that a significant portion of blacks have anti-black sentiments and "prejudice". Prejudice - pre-judge. Most people prejudge groups based on statistics (experience). This is a natural survival mechanism not to be confused with some kind of immorality.
This article is full of BS. Obama won the 2008 election with the help of a large amount of white voters. Blacks have openly said that the only reason they are voting for Obama is because is he black. Which group is racist again? I swear the media continues to try to divide this country. They need to stop.
Lusitania
Nothing I can say to help your reading comprehension. Your ignorance is your own.
Mike-424215
And this thread you are commenting on is "right wing deflectionists" at work?
I know many racist black people.
You give an black man an important job and he screws it up royally for 4 years. Do you trust him to have another 4 years or do you try someone else? Is it racist to get rid of him, or is it experience?
It is experience and many white people have bad experience with blacks. Welfare, crime, deadbeat dads, low graduation rates, pimps, drug dealers, president, etc. That is not racist. It's a stereotype because there is truth to it by definition.
What is totally racist is over 95% of blacks voting for Obama. No other explanation for it.
mike maybe the right was refering to obamas socialist agenda and not the color of his skin. and the potus was the first to play the race card with the professor and poor baby martin. as far as i'm concerned the color of a man is not important its his honor and way of life. the problem is the dems are the ones to call racism when its to their advantage and are the first to hide behind the concept of give the minorities what they need which really keeps them from needing to take control of their life and yes the whites are a minority now and included in this lets keep them happy with freebies.
dbpIndy - end of your comment #1.2
I assume you didn't agree with hardly anything Clinton did or maybe even some of the things GW did. If so did you also claim they "did a LOT to deteriorate race relations in this country"?
If not then I suggest you are inconsistent, to put it kindly.
I have noticed that the most racist people out there are blacks. Just look at Jesse and Al.
"You give an black man an important job and he screws it up royally for 4 years"
A white man had the job for 8 years before the black man and screwed it up even worse.
FAR, far worse!
@ LmarcT - Nice to know you continue to support a President who not only lied for at least 2 weeks after the attack in Libya, but then also lied about it to the American people during Debate # 2. Anyone's vote for Obama is enabling and encouraging this man to continue to lie to the American people. Doesn't say much about how low the moral/ethical standards in this country have become..... Thank God for those who are sick and tired of the lies and want someone else.
Romney/Ryan 2012, the only hope to more America in a positive direction.
"This country elected an African American Arab....don't tell me we are racist."
Quotes like this and others on here show racism is alive and well. I grew up in the Jim Crow South as a white man. I've seen and heard racism all my life. And ANYBODY claiming that a huge chunk of the anti-Obama vote isn't racist is a fool,or lying to themselves and us. Even a Republican Ret. Col. Wilkerson yesterday said his party was full of racists. The Republicans since the 60's have never hesitated to pull the race card. Which is why most black voters,vote Democratic. All this talk about 97% of blacks are voting for Obama because he's black only. Well 90% of blacks voted for Clinton and he isn't black. That's only a 7 point difference. The fact is that black voters vote Democratic because the Republicans are known as the racist party in this election. Sure they have a small number of minority voters (God knows why).But their party is 86-89% white in today's multi-racial America. The Republicans a long time ago threw the black voter under the bus. And now whine because most blacks vote Obama.
As for claims that many people aren't against Obama because he's black. But its his policies instead. As Biden said "malarky",these same people voted for that nitwit Bush twice.And his policies almost killed us. Now they are gleefully signing up for a poster boy for the ultra-rich.A man who flip-flops on every issue except cutting taxes for the 1%. A guy who has 17 out of 24 advisers from the Bush days. A man that his claim to fame as a "businessman" was as a financial vulture,bankrupting American companies,firing workers and shipping their jobs to China. A man whose "plan" all non-partisan economists say is garbage. Pretty much,sell cow,buy magic beans,and search for golden goose. Yet so many people think "that guy" is better than the "black guy", because he's white. I thought I'd seen some hogwash in my life,but if we are stupid enough to buy Romney's pie in the sky campaign.My respect for our intelligence will take a nose-dive. I believe there are two quotes we need to think about when we go to vote Nov 6th. One by MLK :"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character" and by Jimmy Carter to Christian voters:“If you were accused of being a Christian, would there be enough evidence to convict you?”
White,Black,or Green,go out and vote for the best leader in this election Barack Obama.
Every American, regardless of their own race or ethnicity, should be deeply shamed by this finding.
This is not what America is about. When the majority of Americans express directly or indirectly an intolerant or negative view of a racial minority of our own fellow citizens, we have reached a fork in the road of our National destiny and instead of choosing the road of egalitarianism and social justice we have chosen the road taken by Nazi Germany.
I have witnessed other shameful turns in American attitudes in my lifetime, but THIS turn is the most shameful of all. We should be better than this.
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No, that's incorrect. White is a color. Mr. Obama is our 44th President "of color." What the rest of your post (which I will not repeat) makes clear is that you and a lot of Americans felt then, and feel now that Mr. Obama is our first president of the wrong color (and that you see relevance in color).
Four years ago a lot of Americans felt good about stating with our votes that a person's color is irrelevant. We cast our votes for Mr. Obama because of "the content of his character", and THIS American remains extremely proud of that vote.
I live in a 80% black city if you want to see who the most racist people are come to Albany GA. I'm a friendly guy I speak to strangers in different places during the day. Say good morning or thank you to a black person they will ignore you like you didn't even speak to them.
1 restored, despite being pretty damn racist, for clarity. OdumbodaPrez banned, rereg of Quanda. Multiple HajjiHumper also banned.
For the studies to be done ONLY looking at one side of racism, it shows the primary problem. There are racists of every color in this world and to continually put it as a burden on the whites is just a travesty. Everyone must accept their part in this or it will never go away. I may be naive, but I think that your average person is good. I see too many good things happen in the world to think otherwise. Why put so much energy into looking for the bad? I look at our children and see that race relations are getting better, not worse.
Just look how terrible the last four years have been with a "HALF-BLACK" president. Would be even worse if he was really "BLACK."
President Obama didn't screw anything up only you Republicans think that. Matter of fact it was so screwed up before president Obama took office that it would of took a miracle to get fully restored. America is on the right track and going forward.If you Republicans get left behind it will be your own fault.You are a party of hate and bitterness. You spew venom out of your mouths every time you people open it.
Im glad to see that one major media network reports on something a lot of us already know: This election will be affected by racial prejudice!That is an utter shame in the UNited States in 2012!
The real racial prejudice is that 95% or more of blacks will vote for Obama ONLY because he is black. I honestly believe that blacks harbor MUCH deeper racial prejudice than do most whites.
dbpIndy - Your comment is based on what? Aren't you just projecting your own prejudice onto blacks? We both know that answer don't we? Hope that doesn't make you feel better about yourself.
More likely because Romney/Ryan placed them all into their neat, little 47% bracket (or should I say, "Binder"?). Anyone not in the top 1% and willing to cast a vote for this spoiled empty suit rich boy is either totally ignorant, self-depricated, or motivated by racism.
You can see why that Pasty Faced Republican Romney so well suits the supremacists. All these uneducated ignernts had to do was look at the color of his face and he became the American White Supremacists Idol. The majority in this country are NOT racists. We all know WHO the racists are...they swagger, they drawl and they are nothing more than blowhards who deny how much of our federal tax dollars get eaten up by their states for their masses on welfare. But that figures too, doesn't it? When MS leads the pack on white welfare recipients followed by TN, KY, GA and SC...and then helps itself to more federal funding for welfare than it pays in, you just know these pukes at the helms of these governments are those good ole good ole bois who lavish themselves with their state corporations profits and then do the good ole boi "one hand washed the other" and use every dime of the state taxes their pay pay for everything but their people.
dpbIndy...
When a white person votes for a white candidate ONLY because he (or she) is white (aka "Put the white back in the White House), does that make him/her racist, too???
dbpindy...............
Hmmm.........wonder if there is any historical or current reasons for those feelings, you think? But I bet you don't think much so poor question
ewent - Did you even read what you posted? Yours is the MOST racist comment I have read yet. Check yourself out:
We all know WHO the racists are...they swagger, they drawl and they are nothing more than blowhards who deny how much of our federal tax dollars get eaten up by their states for their masses on welfare
Since you know who there are - TELL US who they are.
RACIST.
Amused - here would be a link for you.
http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/elections/how_groups_voted/voted_08.html
It shows that 95% of blacks voted for Obama in the 2008 election compared with 4% for McCain. The site doesn't explain the why, but at least dbpIndy's numbers were correct.
JoeMike...Nice cover...doesn't work. "They" are the men in this country who believe "they" and only "they" have optimal rights. Sorry...Not so in the Consitution. Men who deliberately skew the intent of the Constitution are manipulators. And since men do all the decision making, it's men who also are most responsible for the messes they create. Would that "they" would learn to man up once in a while.
How responsible is it to line your pockets with other peoples' money so your Wall Street moolah can look sweet? How responsible was it for Madoff to get away with 17 years of fraud? Ebbers? Ken Lay and Jeff Skilling? Kozlowski? Those 7 TX HMOs all headed by CEO men who defrauded Medicare of $350 million from 2006 until this administration hung their asses out to dry?
You can make all the excuses you like to defend a position that shades the truth. When it comes to truth there isn't enough shade to cover it. Most intelligent Americans know that.
The worst group are those so called Christians who say they go to church each Sunday and are hypocrites sitting in their pews.
ewent - It's interesting that you talk about angry white men - WOW, perhaps you should see to your own anger.
Thus far I have pointed out 2 statistical realities; the fact that correlation does not equal causation and that 95% of blacks voted for Obama in the 2008 presidential election. What position is it you think I am defending?
I'm glad this topic arose so I can quickly identify racist posters and click "Ignore this author" so I don't have to read any more of their blather. Racial hatred has no place in my heart.
Texas...Truth to any Texan always hurts them in those double sized asses doesn't it? You want to deny that only in southern states is that stupid Stars and Bars flown from bully boi pickups armed with rifles? This isn't stereo-typing. It's fact you can see and I HAVE seen.
So let's prove something here...how many minorities live right next door to you? Or don't the Houston, Dallas, Austin and Galveston Big Oil Big Daddies allow any minority to live next door to their pseudo Mansions in Big Rich Texas...That Whole Other Country...that relies on MY tax dollars to hand to Big Oil to keep those Big Oil Big Daddies in moolah, that relies on federal tax dollars and then has the balls to hint at secession all while TX government is funneling more federal tax dollars to your state.
I wasn't born in a state where bathrooms were labeled..."White Only"...I also wasn't born in a state where lynchings, bombings of young children in churches occurred. Time to take it like a man and admit where most of this occurred...in the "conservative red states" like MS, GA, LA, KY and TN. These are the states with the highest records of white welfare and then those white welfare recipients have the nerve to blame it on minorities? How about get the hell out of bed like notherners do at 5 AM every day, board a bus or train to a job in a big city and then come home 9 hours later?
I have every right to my hatred for a culture that bred slavery and plantation mentalities and wishes to continue that more and more every day. If you don't get that, no surprise there...
dbpIndy
This should not be surprise. Blacks are the ones who were slaves and Blacks were the ones denied even the most rudimentary civil rights throughout most of our nation's history. It was White men who sicked dogs on them when they marched for their constitutional rights and set their homes and buses on fire and lynched their young men under false pretenses. That's the problem with men like Romney who feel it is a sign of weakness to apologize for the sins of their fathers..
Couldn't agree more...MORE drivel from the media on race and the election to divide us further in an election that is already contentious.I have YET to see an article from this network about where each candidte stands on issues -FACTUAL comparisons..instead, they all strongly suggests that all readers and voters-US- are IDIOTS that base their votes on hatred and ignorance of the facts and stands on isssues, records and accomplishments. I counted 6 articles today on the candidates and NONE suggested any real content on eaither candidate-more rumors, lame excuses for stories and stories slanted to incite if not hatred, then division among us-as if we aren't divided enough over this election. They are useless when it comes to delivering factual stories that help Americans make intelligent choices..instead, you have to go digging for real facts..why do I even bother looking at these types of 'news' stories...they are not news, just ignorant stories..
I, too, believe that racial prejudice has always been a factor in this Presidential election as it was in the last one. I think the reason that President Obama won the first time is because so many white folks did not think there was a chance he would be elected, they did not vote either way, and were rather dumb-founded when it actually happened.
As a facilitator of non-denominational Christian Bible Studies, it has also been of the utmost irony to me to see Christians rushing to vote for a high leader of the Mormon church (a religion doggedly considered a non-Christian cult for decades). Instead, these so-called Christians label the President of the United States, who is a professed Christian, as an evil muslim.
Just yesterday, I saw in our local paper a lengthy article entitled "MEET THE MORMONS." There was also a long letter to the editor of the paper, inviting everyone to come out and meet the Mormons. It invited everyone to come out to the local school for a question/answer session and get to know how alike Mormons are to other Christian religions, then listed a few beliefs that were non-controversial. They did not mention the things mainstream Christianity does not believe such as Jesus is not Divine, Jesus is Satan's brother, believers can have eternal marriage to their spouse in heaven, God had sex with Mary, etc.
Or the fact that not many years ago Mormons did not believe black people were eligible to go to heaven.
Yes, interesting and ironic ... and disheartening.
Ok, enough bull crap. It is virtually impossible for ANY candidate to harbor 90+% of a vote without bias, prejudice, or coercion. This is a pattern that has been observed since voting was invented. That it is expected that over 90% of blacks will vote for Obama is clear evidence that they are prejudiced towards an individual of their own race or a bunch of morons, PLEASE spare me the idiocy that his mother was white. He has been playing the race card since he got into politics capitalizing on the "I'm a bro" crap. Obama has also done more to create racial tension with his class warfare and free sh_t programs than any POTUS before him, and people of color have had more laws and statutes passed on their behalf in the last 50 years than any other group in the USA. How many white Presidents, Democrat OR Republic attended a church for 20 years with a vitriolic racist for a minister??? In this nation you do NOT have to like someone if you do not want to - PERIOD, and if blacks want to keep blaming whites for something that happened over 500 years ago, and ended about 150 years ago, in order to get free sh_t and priority treatment then they will NEVER get out of their self-entrenched rut. ewent - hello, it is 2012, and your hatred will only get you more in return - and WELL deserved! The plain reason why many whites are prejudiced towards blacks is that they are sick and tired of seeing millions of them get a free ride. Enough said.
How come it seems always to be whites are against others?
How many Hispanics hold negative views on whites?
How many blacks hold negative views on whites?
Ahh never mind.
I should probably just apologize for being white.
A Hispanic might of offended you but that wasn't me.
A black might of offended you but that wasn't me.
A white might of offended you but that wasn't me.
Peabo -
No, that makes them a fool.
MDB...Northern whites ride buses and trains to work every day without EVER paying attention to the color of the person packed into a subway like sardines right next to them. Now..what do you think would happen in Atlanta? Or Biloxi if the same situation occurred down there?
I have two neighbors, both black. These are the sweetest, most hard working people and both men served in the military, one in Viet Nam and the other in Korea. No one in my neighborhood notices their color. What we do enjoy is the addition to the culture of the neighborhood. We also have several Middle Easterners, Orientals and two southern families. We learn to mind our own business, get along and enjoy neighborliness that creates a safe cocoon for our children and their children.
Compare that to some of the southern states where minorities somehow always end up living in homes in the part of town where the white population is zero. The very fact that Republicans live in fear of how many Americans plan to re-elect this president and have already been caught skewing voter registration speaks volumes of their desperation to insure a white business man, not a politican, gets elected.
Some men in this country simply refuse to learn the difference between "government" and "business." These nut jobs think these two words are one and the same. Wrong.
Not all white people are racists. But those who aren't have to put an end to a culture of bigotry that serves zero purpose.
Ewent, i don't know if ,maybe you don't get enough sex in your life ,or you was molested as a child, but you have allot of hate and bigotry in you. Do you really think all southerners are raciest ,bad people? Are you so ignorant of your own Yankee history, do you not know that Slavery started in the north and flourished for over a hundred years. Are you saying, that because we had slavery in the south 150 years ago, that we are raciest but you are not. I have lived in the south all my life, my father marched with Martin Luther King,and so did many other Southern whites, and now you are calling him a raciest!Stories like these do only one thing, bring hypocritical ,bigot, haters, like you, out from under the wood pile.If you think for one moment that voting for someone because they are black ,makes you Non raciest , you better think again , it takes allot more than that. You are a hater, you just chose another group of people to hate,group them all together, paint them one color, so you can justify in your warped little mind ,all your built up anger.
Whoa, whoa, whoa! I implore all of you to read your posts. We as a nation must elevate ourselves, support one another and find a common good.
Election years are always full of high anxiety, let's not ALL degrade ourselves in mean spirited mudslinging. There is plenty of ignorance and derogatory comments running amongst all parties, no matter race, creed, sexual orientation, or gender.
We must be a "United" States of America
JP,
Thank you for explaining to everyone your reasons for being a racist.
Mr. Romney would agree with you too, except he also includes whites and hispanics in the 47% of Americans that he said he despises.
Repeated due to collapse...
Any group denigrating another group will drive those groups to rally within themselves and put daylight between them and the other group. Once it starts it's difficult, if not impossible, to stop. And just like someone hooked on drugs must fall low enough before they can effect change, so must these groups.
And if the primary difference between the groups is skin color, then it is called racism.
When blacks claim general racism by whites, then, yes, they too are exhibiting racism. By it's very definition, it takes one to punch, two to fight... one to bitch, two to argue. And "who started it" has little relevance while in the middle of the battle.
So we have a black president. And just by racism's very nature, those that are racists will tend to line up in the opposing party. Was that party racist before we had a black president? It might have trended that way, but the alignment is much clearer today.
So this black president gets handed an economy that is crap, losing jobs by the millions and piling up debt like there;s no tomorrow. At the same time, even before he was elected, racist comments were made by individuals and interpreted as being from the opposing party as a whole. So the "racism" battle started early and hard. And when the opposing party leaders pledged to "make this president fail", that was the end of civility as we knew it.
So this black president had committed to unite this country. And faced with no less than a collapsing country, and in spite of owning a majority Congress, he moved to the center. For two years, he tried about everything humanly possible to unite the country and to work across party lines. It was tried in the beginning with health care reform but was given up on by Congressional leaders after hitting block walls for months. This set the tide and the direction for the rest of this president's term.
So for the last half of this presidency, this black president openly fought the opposing party. He spoke up when he saw raw opposition or heard blatant misinformation. He pulled out his executive powers and made moves he thought he had to to save this country from itself.
So now we are recovering slowly... polarized like hell, but recovering. And our foreign affairs has never been better in many eyes... even in the opposing party's eyes in many cases.
And here's the final question... who ultimately suffers and/or gets punished for racism?
We all do.
So who do we vote for? Nobody based on race or racism.
Vote for integrity and trust. Whether black or white or brown or green, you need to try like hell to set aside these escalated racist times and vote for who you know in your heart to be true and trustworthy. Question all that you are handed as truth. Dig deep. Do the right thing.
Personally, I hope to hold my head high after this election because I did my research across party lines and sites and made my own informed decisions.
It really IS that simple. So do it.
So here's the excuse for Obama losing?
ewent - I didn't either (grow up where bathrooms were labelled). I was taught better than you. Poor you.
dbpindy, herman caine is black and hardly any blacks voted for him so your theory is pure BS
Anybody but Obama = Anybody but the black guy
All this talk about Muslim, Kenyan, Birth Certificate, entitlements, etc., is pure racism.
Compare that to some of the southern states where minorities somehow always end up living in homes in the part of town where the white population is zero.
ewent - maybe you should come down to the South and visit before you go spouting off at the mouth. Apparently you did not think before you inserted your foot.
We learn to mind our own business -
So by your definition - you are a BIGOT.
Again - Poor you.
It's not a northern/southern thing. It's an unfortunate human thing that occurs in all groups of people. All of my neighbors are minorities, even the white ones in one way or the other. Some of the most racist people I've ever met came from up north or midwestern states. Please recover from the civil war.
Whether Romney wins or loses, there is one thing the Republican Party has lost -- HONOR.
The GOP just ain't the Grand Old Party it used to be.
typical libbys ... you don't support obama, so you must be racist! /rolls eyes
"let me be candid: My party is full of Racists. The real reason a considerable potion of my party wants President Obama out of the White House and are willing to do what ever it takes to see that happen has nothing to do with his competence as commander in chief or president, and has everything to do with the color of his skin, and that is despicable." Col. Lawrence Wilkerson 10/26/2012 (a white republican, or should I say EX-REPUBLICAN)
The table was set when P.Obama appointed Eric MY PEOPLE WithHolder to AG....the agenda was clear...
Dismisses New Black Pamper Party Voter Intimidation case even after No-Show Default Judgement against them....Shall I continue ???
"I don't know the facts, but the Police acted stupidly"..
" If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon"
"Reward our friends, Punish our Enemies"
Requiring proof of Citizenship to vote is Racist, (Jim Crow, Poll Tax inference) (P.Obama had to show ID to early vote in Chicago ) WithHolder files lawsuits everywhere he can ( Most new ID laws found to be Valid...just NOT for 2012 Election, which is all he needed to accomplish)
Obama's Black Liberation Theology Preacher "Rev." Wright follows the Teachings of its Founder " In order for a White Man to be truly repentant, he must give all he owns to Black Folk"---James Cone
Even though his mother is White.....He only checks the "Black" box on his Census form in 2010....Pretty much sums it up...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/02/obama-census-choice-afric_n_524012.html
P.Obama is the biggest fanner of the flames for driving up the Racial Divide and for creating as many, even opposing, Special Interest voting blocks to pander to each as his path to re-election....
no bryon, you are a racist because you are a racist, it has nothing to do with who you support as president, well actually it does, if you can support the republican party when they have done everything in their power to see that President Obama fails, even to the point of harming our nation, then you must be a racist and you surely are not a patriot. The republicans have blocked everything he has tried to do, not because they disagree with it but because they don't want anything good to happen to the country that could reflect well on the President, and that is treason in my book.
The fact that the poll centered on whites vs everyone else is racist in and of itself. NOT ALL WHITES ARE RACIST. NOT ALL RACISTS ARE WHITE.
This racist poll is irrelevant as it is racist. Until the stereotype of whites being the only racists is removed there will be no progress made.
I'm white, live in the Pacific Northwest, so my exposure to people of color is limited but I did work with a number of minorities and found that I liked some of them and disliked some of them, just as I liked and disliked some of the people I worked with who were white. I based my feelings toward the people I interacted with on their behavior, NOT THEIR COLOR! Individualism is what it is all about. Behave like a jerk and I'll call you a jerk! Behave like an intelligent civilized individual and you'll have my respect and my loyalty.
It is interesting that this story is about white people's attitude toward blacks and Hispanics, why not check their attitudes toward whites? I know we are the evil ones, the majority (for a little while longer anyway) but honestly, if you harbor hatred towards others you're going to get back what you give!
Live and let live, do unto others as you would have them do unto you, these aren't just things we should say, they are the very things we should practice no matter what color our skin is, or where our family comes from.
Let our deeds speak for us, not some meaningless difference in the color of our skin or our gender, or our age, or our religion... It is how we act, how we deal with each other that should matter.
Hating entire groups of people because they look different or don't share your ethnicity/religion/generation/gender/politics is the most ignorant and repugnant behavior possible. Such mindlessness is at the very heart of bigotry. I used the word ignorant but perhaps stupid is the more appropriate term, since ignorance implies that the bigot only lacks knowledge when it is more likely they lack the intellect to understand just how destructive and unfair their baseless attitudes are!
Mike in Delray, perhaps you should do a bit of background checking, Holder actually served as acting Attorney General under Bush.
I am white, and I don't believe all whites are racists. Only about 50% of them.
But when I look at President Obama, I rarely think, "oh he is black" or "he is biracial." I see a man of honor and integrity who is a good leader, and who could be a great leader if only that other 50% would give him half a chance.
Perhaps we could call it 'The Obama Effect', since Obama seems to be pushing the 'Class/Race/Ethnic Warfare' card constantly.
By the way - studies have shown that Blacks are far more 'prejudiced' against other races than vice-versa. My Black wife says this is certainly true from her experience with friends and relatives.
MSDNC already throwing the race card? Sounds like they're prepping for an Obama loss.
Though I hate to admit it, I'm probably guilty...After 3 1/2 years of the Obama Agenda, and watching the community worshipping him and it... I admit that I have a lot less trust in the African American Community as being just like the rest of us with the same wants and desires... With any luck, 4 years from now, we can convince Condi or Powell, or an unknown African American to run against Romney...and I can begin to heal (and the rest of America too)
In my heart, I know this man is not exemplirary of the majority of African Americans, and I hold on to the belief...once he is out of Office, I hope the community will begin to confirm this belief
Associated Press/NBCnews = Flamethrowers for the incitement of civil unrest and fabricated indignation.
Quite an agenda.
Did Chris Matthews spike your Kool Aid?
deprogrammer...(#2.40)..."Mike in Delray, perhaps you should do a bit of background checking, Holder actually served as acting Attorney General under Bush."
Yeah, for 7 whole days until New AG Ashcroft was confirmed by the Senate....Holders real claim to Progressive Liberal fame came when he was Clinton AG Janet Reno's lapdog for.....Waco,TX inferno, Ruby Ridge, Kidnapping Elian Gonzales at gunpoint and sending him back to Fidel Castro.....and who can forget his success at getting Clinton to pardon Marc Rich on the last day of the Clinton Years( after Denise Rich donated $450,000 to the Clinton Library).....Pfffft
Typical righty whities blaming everything on the other guy or group and then going to church on Sunday to be hypocrites.
Interestingly, Rasmussen has Romney ahead by 6% (51% to 45%) in the all-important 'Swing States'.
And Gallup, who had a distinct 3%+ pro-Democratic bias in 2004 & 2008, has Romney ahead Nationally by 5%.
It's time for 'panic' at the Obama campaign.
Roy Wilson,
Sorry, but I don't believe for one second that you have a black wife. I think you would have mentioned that before in at least one of the hundreds of posts you have made here.
Lie tactics may work well for the GOP/TP, but it doesn't necessarily work in this forum.
Also, I think it is wonderful that President Obama is biracial. Our country is a nation of all colors whether some of you like it or not.
Silverton, your post 2.17 is full of inaccuracies regarding Mormons. Please, stop spreading misinformation.
At least Mr. Romney does not appear to be prejudice.
The 47% of Americans he said he despises are from all races and religions.
(Spudbucket: List one inaccuracy regarding Mormons please. Keep in mind I have read much of your Mormon bible, literature, and had in-depth conversations with Mormons. I live right around the corner from a Mormon church and yes -- gasp -- have a couple of Mormons I consider friends though we do not see eye-to-eye on religious doctrine)
Why do the Republicans hate President Obama so bad? it can't be the Health Care law, that came straight out of the Heartland Institute, a right wing think tank. It can't be his laxed policy towards immigrants, he has deported more illegals than Bush by nearly double. It can't be his laxed policies towards drugs, he has went after pot growers with a vengeance. It can't be his policies against the Oil companies, domestic oil production is up 17% since he took office. It can't be because he is a radical liberal because he makes Ronald Reagan look like a tree hugging hippie. So what is it? The only answer is FEAR, GUILT AND RACIAL PREJUDICE.
The man who spends his life looking over his shoulder, worried that someone is going to stab him in the back does so because he has spent his life stabbing others in the back. We fear others because our foreign policy has made others fear us. We worry that someone will try and force their way of life on us because we continually force our way of life on others. Christians fear someone will force their religious beliefs onto them because they themselves have forced their religious beliefs on the rest of the world for the last 1700 years. We are afraid the "black man" will take over and enslave us because we enslaved him. We worry that illegal immigrants will overrun our country and steal our land because we were once illegal immigrants who stole this land. We are afraid that everyone want what we have because everything we have we took from someone else.
There will always be racisim. Blacks are more racist than whites, they do not want equality, they want to be more than whites. Even though they are American citizens they are like immigrants who come here and settle down, they congregate together in a particular area, they want to have all black churches and schools, they want all black conventions and groups, no whites allowed. They want to be treated better than whites not just the same as whites. Every time a wrong is done to one of them they blame it on their being black. The very fact that they will vote for Obama just because he is black is racism, and they totally disreguard the fact that he is half white, and even though they know that there are many issues to consider when voting for the leader of America they still will vote for Obama just because he is black. I have seen it on television where blacks were asked why they were voting for Obama and the answer is not because of what he has done are what is says he is going to do, the first answer is because he is a black man. White people voted for Obama because he said he would make America better, all that hope and change crap. Yes some of them voted for him because they wanted to be seen as politically correct, but most of them actually believed that because the black people had lived a hard life and needed someone who would make America better for all, they believed his lies and voted for him. He had two years of complete control of the government and the republicans would not have been able to stop any thing he wanted to do had he attempted to do something, but he wasted it on healthcare, I wanted healthcare reform as much as anyone but America had much more extreme issues to attend to. He allowed pelosi and reid the two people in government who I despise more than anyone to take over his Presidency and lead him on their path instead of making his own. Obama will never admit that he should have made the economy his first act because as with any man they do not want to admit failure. I do not believe that blacks want to be given free stuff, I believe they want to work and provide for their families just like anyone else, with equal pay and opportunities, but I am sorry to say this, but blacks are ten times more racist than whites.
And Roy the story proves it by this line:
pro-black sentiment -- not racism. pro-white sentiment -- racism. Although I believe the gain is higher considering Obama receive 97% of the black vote and added people turned out for the polls that never voted before, 13 pts higher than Clinton with all his ads for South Africa. Old Bill new how to get the vote. Odd how we never hear anymore about African countries other than Somali and that's because of terrorists. African nations are still in trouble and people are abused and enslaved, Zimbabwe is a total mess for one. However, the blacks in this country seem mum. It's as though they have blinders on and only cared about the one country where they had heard whites were in charge. Sorry to say....Anyways, here in America
AP, your story is tripe.
Stop printing garbage.
Enough already.
Move on.
Well, I live in a very red state called AL. We have many true liberals who are happy to vote for whatever shade of skin a person they want in office happens to have, but that isn't the majority here, obviously. Even many of the white and mostly older Democratic people have said overtly or covertly that they can't vote for a black man to be president. And that isn't even the conservatives. They are blue dog Dems who can't get past shades of skin, but most would tell you they aren't racist...lol. They make statements like, "I just can't vote for him. I'd like to, but I just can't. I'll have to not vote this time I guess since I can't vote for that man."
So not racist, you say? Maybe they don't like his policies or something he did? Let's ask, right? Why can't you vote for him, then? "Oh, I agree with his policies. And I've never voted for anyone but a Democrat. But I just can't vote for him."
But why not? I don't understand? He represents most of the policies you agree with and you said you didn't dislike him as a person for a specific reason you can mention ...so why not vote for him?
"I just can't. I can't put him in the White House."
If it isn't him it will be a Republican who will do everything you disagree with, so isn't not voting going to help the other guy?
"Yeah, I know. I really hate that idea. But I just can't vote for him." Then they get really uncomfortable and change the subject.
And then I find out from others who know the people that they say when talking to each other, "If he were just...different...I could vote for him. I just can't put a black man in the White House."
And those are the more liberal of the old boys club in the area. The more conservative ones are busy talking about him being Muslim, Marxist, Socialist, atheist, dangerous, foreign, the anti-Christ, and on and on and on spouting conspiracies, craziness, and how he's going to ban all their precious guns and religion and bring his "Muslim brothers" over to take over the country. They said it last time too, but they have had 4 years to work on their talking points. It's the end of civilization as we know it and there will be mosques on ever corner guarded by "towel heads" and "dot heads" and all kinds of "others". They say he is a divider...how would that be, exactly? The ones saying they can't vote for someone with dark skin (unless it's a spray tan...apparently that makes it fine) are saying that Mr. Obama has divided the country...bizarro world.
I guess it never occurred to anyone that one reason so many blacks voted for Mr. Obama is that finally there is someone who might understand American life from their point of view when things have been run by old white men forever, someone who might have experienced things they have, stands for a platform they believe in, and that finally maybe someone will actually represent them in a way no one ever has as President? How is it his fault if his election brought racists and crazies more out in the open?
If some of you really read what you have written here you would see that what you wrote has at the least racial undertones. The real meaning of the term, "playing the race card" when used in reference to Mr. Obama is, "Oh, we don't want him to act black, but if he acts white that isn't good either, and don't call us on our racist comments or actions or we will accuse you of playing the race card". Of course voters have bias, and that is the point of having an election...lol. That isn't a bad thing unless people take their biases to extreme levels and just plain make up things or twist them to whip each other into frenzies of bizarre claims.
@phinster66
This is just another attempt by the Liberal Media to guilt Americans into voting against America again...get used to it, in the next 2 weeks, all Americans will be racist...and for 2 years after the election...it will be the first and last word in every Dem speech
pullmyfinger13, you are correct. Where are the numbers showing the racist sentiment between any group but white? Or racist sentiment against whites? You never see those numbers, because we whites are all supposed bow down, apologize, ask for forgiveness and vote for Obama to show that we are reformed and no longer that evil "R" word. The only road to salvation is via a vote for Obama. No matter what the real reason for not wanting to vote for Obama, you're a racist. If your black and vote for Obama because he's black, your aren't a racist, your justified because of something that happened hundreds of years ago according to some posters. Others can't understand how a Christian could vote for a Mormon, then call me a bigot because I won't vote for Obama? They aren't bigots though, they're justified for their hatred of Mormons! Get off your high horse people, you calling other's racists and bigots is hypocrisy. Voting for Obama doesn't prove that you aren't racist at all, it's just a mechanism for you to deny your racisms and bigotry. If your human, you are a racist, or a bigot at some level. It's part of human nature.
This ain't racist ??
Obamaphone:
http://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play;_ylt=A2KLqIQ57otQtx8ABWj7w8QF;_ylu=X3oDMTBvbGgza2Q0BHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDdmlkBHZ0aWQDVjExNg--?p=obama+phone&vid=306B9F87190C01D53E04306B9F87190C01D53E04&l=&turl=http%3A%2F%2Fts3.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DV.5034101858369602%26pid%3D15.1&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DtpAOwJvTOio&tit=Original+Obamaphone+Lady%3A+Obama+Voter+Says+Vote+for+Obama+because+...&c=0&sigr=11acsfj73&&tt=b
Obama gonna pay my mortgage, put gas in my car:
http://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play;_ylt=A2KLqIQ57otQtx8ABWj7w8QF;_ylu=X3oDMTBvbGgza2Q0BHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDdmlkBHZ0aWQDVjExNg--?p=obama+phone&vid=306B9F87190C01D53E04306B9F87190C01D53E04&l=&turl=http%3A%2F%2Fts3.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DV.5034101858369602%26pid%3D15.1&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DtpAOwJvTOio&tit=Original+Obamaphone+Lady%3A+Obama+Voter+Says+Vote+for+Obama+because+...&c=0&sigr=11acsfj73&&tt=b
Obama Stash Cash..."That's why we voted for him"....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ojd13kZlCA
And you wonder why the 53% that actually Pay Federal Income Taxes to fund all this are upset ?????
Realist,
You can disagree with someone's religious doctrine without hating that individual.
Just as you can disagree with someone's political persuasion without hating that individual.
You know, there are all kinds of black people, just as there all kinds of white people. In any and all races there are those who have a predisposition to be either more or less tolerant, and more or less rude / polite. It seems that those of color who are on the lower end of the economic scale have token this presidency as an opportunity to (in many cases) become less polite in general, and dare I say it, those who have historically asked the most of society have become somewhat militant in their entitlement. This will cause tension folks. You are entitled to act however you like. But not to whine about the consequences of your actions.
MDB123 stated: (Thanks for the post)
Truly THIS post (most of it anyway) is what every person should strive for and remember. I gather MDB, that you are white. I am not. However, you do NOT owe me any apology - I have been offended by white people and I let them know - that was personal, as far as walking in a crowd in a sea of white people, I have no preconceived notion that they all hate me, I find that I usually have excellent conversations on the bus or subway with a person I don't know, and whose race differs from mine.
Stereotyping is what divides this country. "I hate saggy pants." - I hear that a lot, well, no - let me be honest, I hear "I hate black people" when someone says that. I hate skinny jeans on men - no matter their color, yet I haven't seen a pair on a black man (but if I did, I would hate the skinny jeans on him too). So, sometimes what someone says gets translated to something else in a person's mind.
I think if you practice what MDB said below, you will find that we all have something to share with each other. You can't lump all whites together - I don't care what this poll says - I have a white neighbor, he knows I'm not white (that's an obvious), he is very racist -, but he and I are friends, if I see him on his roof, I climb the ladder to help - he doesn't dislike me, and I don't dislike him. Does the fact that he usually says something incredibly racist bother me? Actually no, I ignore it and move on, he is entitled to his opinion, he can obviously get along with a different race one on one (me) and we truly are friends. I have his back any day, and he has mine - this has been proven when we had a problem with another neighbor (white). We have totally different political views but we don't argue, we listen to each other, sometimes I learn something from his reasoning, sometimes he may learn from me, the conversations are polite and we never have said a mean word to each other over a political party (or anything else). Life is too short to hate people - if you must have the perfect race/person etc - good luck, no one is perfect.
The only thing I would change about your post MDB is the "apologizing" part - if you wrong someone, apologize - but not to a whole race. I think it "seems" that whites are against other races because of many things - such as it took years before you saw Black or Latino people on major television shows - but that is something "we" need to let go of- all races are now well represented on television, living in the past is not a good way to view the the present world. Also, the Justice System (with the exception of OJ) seems to be against minorities - who is worse a kid selling a bag of pot or the white-collar criminals who destroyed the country? Yes, I know some of them got locked up, but there is a white man's club mentality in the corporate world - to the exclusion of white women as well. Living in the past does not move one forward.
If people would just take people as they are - smile more, simple gestures can go a long way. That is advice for ALL races - not just white people. If someone does you wrong, deal with them, but don't think that they are THE representative of a race.
Silverton,
I had to re-read JP's post several times. He has not said one thing other than what is observed and express concern that practicing racism had to be a part of it. It was. Listen to Black people carefully. Quite a number, but I seriously doubt all give one of their reasons to vote for Obama was he was black. Is it Racist, possibly, is it racial prejudice probably, if they list it as a reason.
JP is mearly pointing out that one of the premises of Obama and the Democratic party was he and they are uniters. The Poll simply says their polices are furthering the divide. That is a reasonable observation.
Your comment about 50% of white people is easily proven FALSE!
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0408/9761.html
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/12/12/racism.poll/index.html
I also don't see this
I have experience with catholics, and both denomination and non-denominational christians.
What I see are people who look puzzled and say, he says he's a Christian, but I'm seeing more muslim characteristics than Christian chariteristics. I.E. "it quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, but doesn't waddle like a duck". You are only observing a minority that have no fear of calling not a duck!
What I am seeing is the reverse of 2008 where people used a checklist on the candidates
Christian profession - Check
Attends church - Check
Joined a church - Check
Quotes the Bible - Check
What they are doing is saying, Hey, things aren't right, this guy does not appear to be what he says. Let's go with the other guy. And better yet, People praying "God, who is it that you want to be President? As is it should be, always.
Nate Silver (the 538 guy) did an excellent TED Talk on racial disparities in voting if you are truly interested. Here is a link: http://www.ted.com/talks/nate_silver_on_race_and_politics.html
If you take exit polls of people who voted for John McCain in 2008 and subtract those who said that race was the primary reason they voted for him, then Obama won in 2008 by the largest margin of any candidate since Georgr Washington (who ran unopposed.)
BTW: I strongly object to the racial and demeaning term "Hispanics." Legitimately Hispanics are people born on the Iberian Peninsula (Hispania to the Romans) and are of Spanish or Purtuguese descent. The GOP came up with "hispanics" as a way of saying that Latinos are non-white. In fact, most of the people that the government now classifies as "Hispanics" are actually American-Indians who come from a Spanish-speaking culture (whether they speak Spanish or not.) The very use of the term is neo-racist. Period.
Ram...that's an excellent post..Before there was a President Obama, black people voted for the candidate, who like whites, had their best interest in mind which happened in the past to be only white candidates...You made an excellent point about the fact that most blacks are voting for Obama because, he is concerned about the plight of the poor and middle class in this country and also because he is biracial, and can identify with some of things that black people have to deal with in this country on a daily basis...The republicans tried to use Herman Cain and Micahel Steele as a way to sway black people to vote republicans, but black people are not stupid and they knew excatly what the republican party was up to..If Herman Cain had gotten the republican party nomination, and Mitt Romney had been a democrat who had the same principals and views of Obama, trust me...95% of blacks would be voting for Mitt Romney...I too live in the south and that AP poll is not lying..The people here are very prejudiced and most of them claim to be born again Christians but yet they HATE President Obama..I wonder how God feels about that?..
In 2008, any one who wasn't Bush, would have won by that margin...Not even McCain could escape the Bush paint brush (and Sarah didn't help)
What I found really interesting was the Hillary Obama race ... watching the DNC trashing one of the 3 most Liberal Women on the planet... and arguably one of the 3 most intellegent Liberal Women... and NY Senator...Former First Lady of the DNC God Figure... for who, a novice from chicago, who had barely been in office long enough to choose his office decor
No surprise. I work with a bunch of republicans, so this isn't news...
In my 54 years, i've known christians to do little else than HATE on others -- and on a very regular basis. This isn't news either. But hating on others is an art form that christians have refined...they do it so well. So, at least they're very good at it!!
After reading this gibberish article,I think,more than ever,that ALL people 18-27 should do at least one 4 year tour in the military....Where you are taught from day one of basic,that the man,or woman next to you could be responsible for saving your life,it leads to a new,refreshing respect...In the Army we had people of every different race,and ethnic group working together....I had male,female,black,white,and hispanic commanders during my carreer...and after a very short while,you didn't notice a "difference" of any kind.....yeah,there were a few little cliques that quickly dissolved when we deployed.....and the Army did more to unite us all than the divider-in-chief ever did.....we got more funny looks stateside by civvies when they saw who was best friends with who,...and we just figured anybody who couldn't deal with our friends was an azzhole......And five years since I medically retired,...we're still great friends,as are our families...(not the facebook type..)......so this ol' white sarge still stands with my black,hispanic,Asian,Indian, friends of 21+ years..with no regrets............U.S. Army Disabled Veteran
Looks like the liberals are finally realizing that Obama is going to lose because we are now back to the race card. Once again liberals display their lack of common sense and logic. America elected a black president four years ago, and weren't racist then according to the media. Now when things aren't looking that good for a second term it's simply because we are all racist....again. Wow! Pathetic.
Perhaps, as we have said all along that it is Obama's policies and agenda that we hate and reject...not his skin color. Get a grip liberals. Chris Matthews....don't you have anything better to do with your time?
DB Akron,
Anyone who thinks President Obama is a muslim has not been very attentive to the news. President Obama has professed he is a Christian several times. I, for one, am glad he does not bark his faith into every available microphone in an attempt to solicit votes.
According to the diverse group of Christians, including evangelicals, that I know, their dilemma is this:
1. Do you vote for a President that supports gay marriage?
or
2. Do you vote for a President that belongs to a non-Christian religion that has been considered a cult by mainstream Christianity, but is against gay marriage?
Of course, other factors come into play when they are deciding to vote, but these two issues seem to be the sticking points, and some see their final decision as the lesser of two evils.
Ah yes, our military. A bastion of mutual respect, tolerance and trust.
Go smoke another bowl.
Roy,
Now you're down with outright lies? Not even Rasmussen has Romney leading like you say in the swing states.
How on earth do you justify a consistent 5 point swing towards Republican versus just about every other poll?
People (like @Roy Wilson) who quote Rasmussen polls are like Democrats who quote Rand polls. Rasmussen has about the same house bias towards the GOP as Rand does to Democrats. And @Roy isn't even quoting the current Rasmussen polls.
I like 538 because Nate Silver aggregates all the polls, correcting each for its house bias. He also has some very sophisticated "neighbor" analysis that predicts polling where there are no polls -- very advanced topology. He has been incredibly accurate (several times more accurate than individual pollsters) in 2008 and 2010. But instead of just polls, his models integrate data on the economy, unemployment, the stock market and a myriad of other factors. As of yesterday evening, 538 gave Obama a 74.4% chance of winning on Nov 6th to Romney's 25.6% --- about 3-to-1 odds. And the trend is sharply pro-Obama with Mitt crashing in a way strikingly similar to the collapse of McCain's campaign (actually the second collapse) at the same point in 2008.
Polls like Rasmussen (or even NBC/Fox [WSJ]) have a number of deficiencies that have become even more pronounced in 2008, 2010 and now in 2012. a) These companies only poll landline users and ignore the third of households that use cell phones, b) They only poll in English. Most Latinos have no problem with English but consider it rude not to be offered a Spanish option. c) Early voting has screwed everything up. People who have already voted are being considered "likely voters" and adjusted downwards because there is no category for them. d) They lack scientific rigor and have inadequate sample sizes because of the cost of real polling. Poll aggregation is the only way of correcting for these errors.
But there are two much worse issues with the individual polls. 1) The media are not interested in who is ahead. They sell ad time when races are close. For example, McCain/Palin never had any realistic chance of winning, but the media portrayed the race as "razor close" even when the McCain campaign was losing its senior people daily and was obviously disspirited and losing. Close races sell ads --- in this race $900 million worth of ads alone. 2) Pollsters are, for the most part, commissioned by various news media and social organizations (including universities) that have their own house bias. Does anyone really expect NBC or Fox to be completely free of such? These polling companies, such as Gallup or Rasmussen, all know who commissioned their polls and are eager to keep those contracts. So they consciously or unconsciously skew their results in the direction of their patrons' views. It's call "His Master's Voice Effect" --- a reference to old RCA Victor consumer satisaction polling.
When historians look back at the 2012 election, I think that they will say that Hurricane Sandy pushed the election out of any possible reach of Romney. Much in the same way that Nixon's flu in the closing days of his race against Kennedy pushed that race out of his reach. Bad weather in the northeast will kill the multi-million dollar get-out-the-vote campaigns in Ohio, Virginia and New Hampshire and will hamper Romney's ability to conduct campaign events, the number of people attending his events, and his ability to travel to "hot spots." Obama is less dependent on the northeast since he is well ahead there and can just move to Colorado, leaving Romney holding the whack-a-mole hammer and little else.
So get ready to stop whining Tea Party and get ready for four more years of Obama followed by eight years of Hillary Clinton. The Tea Party had destroyed the GOP 'brand" and fragmented the party to the point that its dismissal of women and minorities has made the Republicans non-competitive in future elections for a very long while.
Typical BS story because it doesn't address the prejudice and animosity that blacks harbor for whites, which is widespread and considerable.
Hating is in human nature. A Delaware professor wrote in a book that raciest can only exist from white to a person of minority. In truth we all put a stereo type to a group for no reason. for example. Christians all they do is hate. Satanists all they want to do is sacrifice virgins( I worked with a lot of them as a Technician), it is the teachers fault that my child did not succeed.
I for example Have a dislike for people that have been unemployed for 2-3 years I think they are all worthless scumbags. but I suppress that and do not cause them violence and have worked to try to get them a job. I don't have an hate toward any color of skin. I actually find them attractive. (I actually find almost all women attractive especially with glasses).
I have been called racist when I point out culture and environment is what gives people these tendency's. For example I have found that men tend to do better with spacial math but that does not mean women cant. I have found women are better with spelling and grammar. that doesn't mean men cant be good at it also. Women tend to be better at comforting children. The largest environmental prejudice I have found is against accent. That is one thing that will not land you a job is an accent.
They have even done studies that Children are naturally fearful of people that are different (in any way).
In the 1960's the Democratic party went through a transformation. It went from being the very conservative party of white people to being a more liberal party of ALL Americans. This transformation culminated in the passage of the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act, and the Fair Housing Act. These laws were passed over the objections of the Southern Democrats who felt that the Democratic Party had abandoned its principals.
The death's of Martin Luther King and Robert F. Kennedy and the war in Vietnam left the party fractured and splintered. Unable to vocalize support for the military, yet be against the war the result was a split within the party in 1968. The result was that many Democrats left the party and became Nixon supporters, resulting in the landslides of 1968 and 1972.
That Nixon was the most corrupt Presidential administration ever, up to that date, did not help the Democratic party, which was trying to discover what it stood for. The administration of President Carter was not strong enough to sustain itself against the onslaught of the even more corrupt Reagan administration. With at least 14 convictions of people ranging from the Attorney General Meese to National Security Adviser Oliver North and many many many many more, it was only through the collective acceptance by the entire political establishment in Washington that the scandal never touched President Reagan himself.
The Reagan Administration used the Fair Housing Act and the EPA laws not to help those who were poor, mostly blacks, but to line the pockets of Reagan's contributors. Many white people felt, and still feel, that the US government has no business instructing private banks where they lend or private business to whom they sell or rent. They honestly believe that if they want to discriminate, it is their right, guaranteed in the Constitution. Any use of the laws passed to require nondiscrimination as a method of taking money is just taking money back that belongs to white people anyway.
The corruption undoubtedly present in the President George W. Bush administration has not yet been fully disclosed. That there were ties between VP Dick Cheney and the company Haliburton is not disputed. It was only the takeover of the House by Republicans that prevented investigation into the corruption.
Republicans truly believe that the US is meant as a place for wealthy white people to obtain anything and everything they want, without consequence. That Blacks, Hispanics and Asians are discriminated against is part of the natural course of business for the modern GOP.
This country has always depicted the color black as being evil. We have Christianity to thank for that thought. Now since we have a race of people that were brought here to work the fields and to be servants in the majority's homes during the beginnings of this country we projected this race of people as being third class citizens and not smart enough to learn to read or being intellectual equals to the superior majority. This country treated the Red color people of this country in the same light but they were not given citizenship until the early 1940's unilaterally.
It has always been the uneducated majority race of this country that has voted and sided with the majority race of this country. They have been the ones to do the dirty work of the educated majority of this country such as lynching, burning Black churches and striking out against Blacks such as the Greenwood Riot in OK and then deny it ever happened. We cannot forget it was these same uneducated majority race that went hunting for red pelts for bounty put out by the federal government which often times took place right after Sunday's church sermons. So it is no wonder 95% of the Blacks vote for a Black or mixed blood president just like the majority race vote for their likeness in the race for the presidency. Tell me what is the difference between the two races or colors? Should the Blacks vote for a majority race presidential contender because he is the savior of these disenfranchised people?
Auto 101,
What an interesting post! I agreed with all of it, except that all Christians hate.
I am a Christian and do not hate anyone I can think of, but I do hate attributes like dishonesty, dishonor, lack of respect for authority figures, etc., etc. and I especially hate thievery.
Anyway, you are right on about a person's accent. I have a slight southern accent (having grown up in Virginia), but I always stressed to my sons (who grew up in the midwest and have no accent) that although one cannot always change his accent, one can always improve his grammar. Poor grammar skills in speaking can be a huge disability in life and keep you from being hired at many jobs, too.
And back to the race thing, as I said before, I think that not all whites are prejudice in America. Only about 50%. But, I also think that many individuals who are minorities have a chip on their shoulder (carry a grudge against whites) as well.
Best advice is that we all need to try to get over it.
@dbpIndy The real racial prejudice is that 95% or more of blacks will vote for Obama ONLY because he is black. I honestly believe that blacks harbor MUCH deeper racial prejudice than do most whites.
The only thing you forgotten is that close to 90% of black ppl vote for Democrats in every election since 1976, every other candidate was white. Black ppl were excited about President Obama and proud that he is black; the few percent that did vote for him because he is black was offset by the few percent that voted against him because he's black. In 2000 Bush got 15% of the black vote, had Obama been republican he would have gotten 20-25% of that demographic, the most by any Republican since 1968 but nowhere near the 95% that you claim. Blacks vote based on interest, not race- if that were true not one black person would have voted before 2008.
It is still an uphill climb for black ppl in America, Chris Rock once made a joke that said: " If you're black- America is like that uncle who paid your way through college, but molested you!" I think that sums it all up.
Some pretty gross statements here. The truth of this poll resonates through these comments. All that aside. I would really like to see this broken down clearly in regions. That would tell a more interesting tale. Of course I doubt there would be any surprises either.
Oh stop with the racism excuses. The last election PROVED this is a country with minimal racism. Obama WAS elected so that nullifies that excuse. We are voting Obama out of office NOT because of his race but because of his country damaging policies.
Reminds me of a story:
A young black man was told he was being fired and starting screaming he was fired for being black. The supervisor said in a very mono tone "No. You were HIRED because you were black. You are being FIRED because you are useless". Same thing with Obama.
Black Kettle & Sand Creek...lest we forget,
Great post.
Can't have an article on Mr. Obama's FAILED domestic and International policies, so revert to RACIAL articles.
Wow, the Progressive media has just hit rock bottom.
It is not because of Mr. Obama's color.....it is BECAUSE of his lack of LEADERSHIP in ALL domestic and International areas. He has been a complete and total failure in his one and only term in office. That is what we get when a community organizer is elected to office.
Wait a minute, guess his FAILURES will be discussed AFTER THE ELECTION, just like everything else he is "postponing".
Mr. President, Mr. President... I have a Question, Independent Unbiased Journalist from Middle America News Corps... Yes thankyou, my hair does look nice today...But, for my question..."If you had a Son, In what ways would he be like Travon...and not like the other teens who have been shot to death in the last 4 years?"...
Here are the reasons why folks will vote for Mr. Obama:
Completely UNINFORMED.
Ido,
Actually, if you read this article, it is about race and not about President Obama's domestic or international policies. I find it interesting because it is a subject much thought of by many people, but not discussed very often.
There are plenty other articles where you can release your frustrations with this Administration's policies. Why are you here in this thread?
The usual divisive garbage journalism we have come to expect from this source. Obama will lose because he has been failure in office. If racism was such an issue he could never have gotten elected in the first place. Losers make excuses, winners don't have to. Blame Bush, blame whites, blame republicans, blame the video, demonize whomever disagrees with you. Its all gotten so old, so tired, and so repetitive that few people with common sense buy it anymore. Proof is coming next Tuesday.
I find it appalling that those on the Right and the very ones who are promoting racism in America. I find it appalling that Americans are allowing them to spew their hate daily on the TV, radio and in print.
No, we DO NOT NEED to do anything against the Constitution, all we need to do is recognize these men for what they truly are and stop listening to them.
The definition of INSANITY is putting a WHACKADOO CULTIST in the white house -- someone who TRULY BELIEVES that god is sitting up there wringing his hands over anyone not wearing Magic Underwear, and whose cult has a long history of arranged child marriages, until society smartened up and made that crap illegal.
It seems as though Charles Manson knew Romney -- both members of crazy, whackadoo cults!!
@Mr. Silverton
This article has nothing to do with Racism, It has to do with it's Author calling people who do not support Obama Racists...Why else would NBC new filed the story under Politics and not under Health or Even Tech and Science, or even US and World?
When the day comes that Progressive Liberal Socalists is a race, then you can sign me up for a hood...Until that day come, I'm just another American who cares more about America than I do about the names you call me
So, when you run out of material, you lie? You should read what one of the long-time mouthpieces IN FAVOR OF ROMNEY just said -- when they SLAMMED ROMNEY for being an EMPTY SUIT with NO PLAN for ANYTHING, and then, look at how they honestly portray Obama's Four Years...
Though a longtime supporter of Romney, the SALT LAKE TRIBUNE endorsed Obama – and called Romney
out, on just about everything.
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/opinion/55019844-82/endorsement-obama-president-romney.html.csp
WRONG auto101, it is not in our nature to hate. We are born filled with love and kindness for those who treat us with love and kindness, it is only through living with people who are filled with hate that we learn hate. Hate, Racism, Bigotry are all learned traits, instilled in us by our parents. Blaming your hate filled heart on genetics and human nature is a copout. You are who you are because of the way you were raised, most racists are the way they are due to the fact that their parents were racists, and their parents parents were racists. The only way to stop this cycle of hate is through integration and education. Yes we integrated but the reason that failed was because we immediately deintegrated. You can bus children from one side of town to another but as long as the white children return to white neighborhoods with white parents who teach them their racial prejudices, or vice versa. It doesn't just happen with whites and blacks, it happens with every race, nationality and religion. Thats is how we end up with burroughs filled with Jewish people, Koreans, Somalians, etc.. The human race has divided itself using these madeup differences when in all actuality we are more alike than we are di9fferent. Anther poster hit the nail on the head when they stated that we are the least diverse of all the species yet unlike the rest of the species on the planet we act as though we are the most diverse. The human race is doomed to extinction if we can't come to the understanding that we are all brothers and sisters. Religion and extreme nationalsim are poison to our species, they do nothing but create differences where there were none before.
Probably because it has to do with someone in an election -- and less to do with tech/science or health topics. DUH!
Mr. Pheaniques,
Could you please identify the post where you said I called you a name?
I am not a name caller, and do not resort to insults or filthy language as many do, and I usually put the worst offenders on my "Ignore Author" list.
You must have me mixed up with someone else in this thread.
(Also, you sound rather like Mr. Romney. Whenever the President corrects his misleading statements, if Romney does not have a good comeback, he cries, "You're attacking me!")
Abandoning religion and cult books, like the BuyBull, would also be a good start in the right direction.
Voting by color is not necessarily racist. If you are a rich white man who will benefit from the election of a rich white man who has your interests in mind, that's not racist. If you are a black woman voting for a black man who has your interests at heart (along with white women's interests), you are not racist. If the only reason you are voting for a person is their race, then you are a racist. With the polling numbers what they are, any woman running for president as a Democrat, with the current platform, would draw the majority of women. Would that be a sexist race?
To those who are saying black people are voting for entitlements, I work with families in an area that is predominantly white. Most of those have been families living on welfare or SSI. Entitlements are not just used by black people.
You can tell the racists or the ignorant who are listening to the likes of Rush Limbaugh. They are ones spouting that Obama is a muslim who attends the church of a black christian terrorist(which is he...christian or muslim). They won't let the birth certificate argument go.(Hawaii was a state before Obama was born) And, they buy into the arguments that all blacks will vote for Obama because he is black so they have to fight back and vote for the white guy.
Recent endorsements by rich black people who endorse Romney shows that some people will always vote with their money. It's isn't racist to vote for someone who supports the middle and lower classes just because you are black. I'm voting for him for that and his support of women's issues and I'm white!
@Mr. Silverton
my appologies,
The "you" that you are refering to was meant to be an "inclusive" you...meaning to say that it would apply to those people who seem to like attaching that label to eveyone who opinions differ from their own...
oddly enough I have yet to put anyone on my ignore list... it often amazes me how much can be learned from the worst of examples, from both sides of the aisle
And Just for clarity, my candidate of choice, refused to run (Condi), and the next thousand or so, who I could have supported werent considered...If Romney is the best the RNC can do, then this Nation has seriously problem that dwarf any brought to light so far...
Nice quote. You should have seen Dumbya Bush, when he was in office, trying to repeat this very simple quote in front of a group of people...
"There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."
http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/bushvideos/v/bushfoolme.htm
What a complete moron that guy was... and now, the Right wants to put a Moronic Mormon Cultist int he White House to screw things up again, Bush-style. Amazing!!
No, I would not saying abandoning religious material is necessarily a start in the right direction, but perhaps adhering and living by the messages in them that pertain to goodwill toward each other.
Jesus said to love one another, so that our joy may be full.
Pretty good advice.
Mr. Pheaniques,
Apology accepted.
And for the record, I do not put everyone who disagrees with me on "Ignore Author." If I did, then 50% of the posters here would be deleted. LOL
But, if someone uses vulgar language and immature name-calling continually in a discussion with me, then usually the substance of their arguments is lacking as well, so when I put them on "Ignore," I am not missing anything. In fact, it makes me enjoy the Vine more.
(And about Condoleezza Rice - she is an outstanding person. One I greatly admire.)
I see why dpindy or whatever the name is would say that. There was a page I looked at that showed the breakdown of who voted for Obama on the first go around. The highest number was Black individual's.
The only problem I have with voting, is when people say they are ONLY voting for him because he is 'black'. They don't read what he's about, listen to what he has to say. They are just voting for him based on his color alone. I have heard many people say that is why they voted for him.
I have to say at first, when he was running I was intrigued, and was going to consider him. But then I read up, and listened to what he had to say, and what the people who he was associated with had to say.
I will not be voting for Obama, I will be voting for Romney. Had Obama had more years under his belt in the political world, maybe he would have done a better job.
Also, I just LOVE how the news site posts information like this. It's like a goldmine for them. It riles people up, and divides them all the further. Way to go.
Racism is thy name... Romney.
silverton-2953905 "Roy Wilson, Sorry, but I don't believe for one second that you have a black wife. I think you would have mentioned that before in at least one of the hundreds of posts you have made here."
Perhaps you should actually read them - I have made numerous posts mentioning having a Black wife and 5 'mixed heritage' children. By the way - I am raising them to get a good education and be self-reliant and not depend on the government.
Lenny12, Texas grace, ewent, joe-904290, silverton-2953905, you're each suspended for a day for violating #1 of the Code of Honor.
I wonder how many of your white relatives showed up to your wedding, and vice versa? My experience is that whites have much more explicit anti-black views than the other way around, and the fact that EVERY wedding and black/white family dynamic I have EVER seen, the "white" side of the family is nowhere to be found...So what PROOF do you have that black people are more prejudiced than whites?
Change relations hasn't changed one bit. I will say Obama's presidency has even heightened it. The first look should be on the fact that Obama's administration had been assessed using a different standard than his former predecessors.
Well said, and I totally agree. If this president would've led our country into war, instead of out, the neo-cons, teabaggers, and pretty much all of the GOP would certainly have hit the roof with utter outrage.
Boehner, Issa, Canter, Ryan, and the horde of "Go, Iraq, Go" crowd would have a field day with impeachment and indictment procedures.
Etch-a-Sketch Romney the empty suit being led around by his sidekick, Ryan. Wow, Bush/Cheney Redux, but folks are still too racially blinded to see the cloning of the Bush 43 administration.
"Change relations hasn't changed one bit. I will say Obama's presidency has even heightened it."
I totally agree. No other president has had the insane questions asked about his background that this one. No president in my lifetime has had to release his birth certificate. No president has ever been asked about his college records or how he paid for college. The "shuck and jive" comment form Palin, the "he's not one of us" comments, the "he's a Muslim" comments --- none of that would every be said about a white guy. You can't use the N word in the 21st century so you make up new words and phrases. Republicans hated Clinton and his wife but they never asked them how they paid for college, never asked for college transcripts and never asked where they were born.
Neo...This president had to use a different standard...the one Bush left behind failed miserably. What does anyone do when they see clearly all of their methods of the past have failed miserably? Repeat them as the Repubbos want to do? And just why might we all wonder would the Repubbos want to keep in place government practices they know is bankrupting the country? That answer is simple: It feeds more obscene wealth to all of their cronies who buy their elections.
I was a Republican. Don't tell me what I saw and heard out of the mouths of Republican men. Republican women get the back burner unless they can be used like Palin and Bachmann to create the image of harpies Republican men all think women are. And we've already heard from at least two of their most "ignernt" what they believe women who have been raped should do. More stupidity than this can be found anywhere.
ewent-yes this president has had a different standard. If a Republican had done or said half the things Obama has the mainstream media would have condemned them. But Obama gets a pass. He stirs up hatred by his constant rhetoric about the haves and have nots-because working hard for something and attaining success is all of a sudden a bad thing, because someone else who didn't want to put forth the same effort doesn't have it. Please don't insult anyone's intelligence. As a white person I am held to a different standard-no special treatment when applying for school grants-but my college counselor told me they were distributed by race, and guess what-whitey is on the bottom of the list. My counselor was Hispanic..does that count as a non-racist witness? How about job application for municipal, state or federal jobs?? Quotas-blacks and hispanics hired first..whitey at the bottom. Yep, it's such an unfair world isn't it? And because Christians believe in life instead of abortion you condemn them. Islam does not tolerate homosexuality and beats and kills their women? I don't hear any of you, or the President condemning Islam-instead we see him bow to the Imams. You people are seriously crazed..go back to your extremist left wing colleges to absorb more propaganda learning about how terrible the U.S. is and how terrible Capitalism and whitey is.
the questions about his life comes from the the fact that was and is a cover up on whether he is a us citizen sure he provided a birth certificate but how long did that take wouldn't take me a minute to find mine or a could of hours to get another one and i am not connected to the goverment seeing he was apart of the goverment to start with why so long and if he is a us citizen then why not be proud to prove it after all you are the first and don't call the whites racist when the elected him because he was black not because he was going to change the way the world don't hand me that crap be honest people i raised my children to look at any one for who they were not their skin color or their faults may have been but in todays school system its hard to stay that way and its not because of whites and the veiws they have
Snake-oil salesmen never tell you what kind of crap is in the cure-all they sell, and Obama is nothing more than a charletan salesman that has been selling the old, rotten leftist wine in a new bottle since 2008. What is amazing is that people continue to drink it - ESPECIALLY the blacks who must be morons or unable to read statistics to see what little Obama has done for them.
One of the things I admire most about President Obama is the way he has held his head high and maintained dignity, self-control, and amazing grace during his first term as President in spite of the unprecedented disrespect that has been shown to him.
I will never forget when Rep. Joe Wilson from South Carolina shouted "You lie!" while President Obama was making a speech to Congress. Many people, including former president Carter, said at the time that Joe Wilson is a racist. I could not agree more. Anyone who doesn't remember this, should take a look at the photo at the link below. Look at the faces of the two men sitting beside Joe Wilson when he shouted this. Such evil grins on their faces. Sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words. This photo says it all in one glance and one word: RACISTS
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/10/congressman-yells-lie-obama-speech/
(And this is even Fox news' report on it. Shows how bad it was.)
I am a WASP and proud of my heritage, but I am also proud to be a Christian voting for President Obama again.
I voted for Bush/Cheney twice, and saw how little the GOP cared for America during those eight years, leaving our country in such catastrophic financial shape without a word from one single Republican in the four years since. I'm still waiting to hear the word "Sorry" from anyone in the Republican Party.
Republicans love War and Money. They are blustering wind-bags when it comes to the true things of democracy, patriotism, and honor.
Caz...Obama gets a Pass? You are reaching, reaching, reaching...Bush lied about the WMDS in Iraq...and then publicly announced he had been "misinformed." Did the rage and anger appear like it does with every petty accusation against this president. Feasting at the table of denial doesn't work when there are facts you cannot deny. When Bush sat beside a woman at one of his public speeches and she told him she was working three jobs, the first words out of his mouth were, "You are uniquely American." Where was the outrage then? Uniquely American to have to work 3 jobs at salaries a single full-time job used to pay? And why does ANY woman have to work 3 jobs when most men rarely work more than 2? Tell me about your outrage at that remark.
Oh and of course, how can any taxpayer forget that $200 billion on the back on that truck that mysteriously went missing in Baghdad...Pass for Bush on that? Not a word of outrage from you?
How about that $200 billion Baghdad embassy Bush pushed through passed the noses of taxpayers that now has to be shut down because of cost overruns to keep it running? No outrage from you on that? Just a nice quiet little pass for Bush.
CAZ do the research and with a rational mind compare what Obama said and I don't see he got a pass - Romney has gotten a pass for his flip flopping because he is white. Bush got a pass for debt and wars because he was white.
Wow. He has gotten a pass? Are you serious???? No bias showing at all. I have read comments on threads for several years, and if you don't think the tone has changed since Mr. Obama was first nominated for President you yourself have some serious blinders on. Never has it been this way until now regarding a US President, and the only difference is that he is black. The jokes, nasty comments, slurs, and bizarre plots are different now, and if you pulled out negative racial terms you would find their use has skyrocketed.
Just ask yourself if any other President has been asked to show his school applications or transcripts? Mr. Romney gets a pass on not showing tax returns when he has a history of lying about his, but Mr. Obama has to show every single document he ever got near? How funny...I guess if you think that just accusing people of things makes them true that all works for you.
Charlie 1915998; This all came about because of when he was asked for these things and he refused to show them, it has been proven that the birth certificate he released is a forgery.Romney will show his original birth certificate,he will show his college admission forms and so would all previous Presidents if asked. If he had nothing to hide what is the harm of saying "sure no problem, if that is all it takes to stop the insanity then sure", but he has not done that he along with those who know the truth have paid millions of dollars to bury this information. I am a believer in where there is smoke there will be fire and unless someone puts out the fire it just gets bigger and bigger. All of you are blinded, you know that he could have ended this years ago if eveything was on the up and up. But I suspect you believe just as the others do, that there is something wrong an you do not want to know about it. George W. Bush had skeletons and it was brought out in the open, ask yourself " If you are innocent of something and you can prove it, would you show it to stop the persecution". And to the rest of you America is not a democracy in the sense of the word, America is a republic. Do you not remember the Pledge of Alliegience " to the republic for which it stands".
@Charlie,
Several other candidates have been subjected to questioning about their citizenship. Two come to mind immediately:
1) John McCain was born in a Panamanian Hospital when his father was stationed at Coco Solo NB in the Canal Zone. Apparently McCain's mother did not like the base physician and chose to have her baby in a Panamanian Hospital with a Panamanian ob-gyn. Nothing wrong there, except that they apparently did not know that parents of American citizens born on foreign soil must file for citizenship for their children. McCain's parents never did so, apparently because this was not required of their friends who had babies in the Coco Solo base hospital.
2) Romney's father, whose lifelong nickname was "Mex" entered the US illegally as a small child when his parents and grandparents fled the Mixican Civil War. He was kept in an internment camp in Texas for a while. But there was never a piece of paper that ever said he was an American citizen. This came up when he ran for President and while most thought he was okay, the subject was dropped when he dropped out of the race.
I think there is a lot of racism, but there is also questioning of citizenship of white candidates. No so much because of racism, but because it, along with age, is a very specific Constitutional requirement. I think that a person's original birth certificate, certified by the Secretary of State of the State or Territory of birth should be required when a candidate files with the FEC to run for President. I think Obama set a logic trap with his that encouraged the GOP to make fools of themselves as a result.
That is also true. His entire term is judged upon how well he cleaned up the mess that Dumbya Bush left behind. Obama had to follow the worst presidential calamity ever to hit the white house: Dumbya Bush, an 8-year-long disaster that proved to be US History's worst president. Obama's entire 4 years is about recovering from that colossal disaster called Dumbya -- and very little else.
How thoughtful of the media to play the "race card" right before the election. How clever!
Ok, so here we go again,
According to the GOP/TP when the news reports are against the President, they are accurate, but when they are in favor of the President, they are manipulated.
LOL
Oh baloney. Romney has gotten ALL the passes from the media. No mention of his whacky goddam cult and his Magic Underwear nonsense. But when it's Obama -- it's Muslim this and Obama's Preacher that, and by the way -- where's your birth certificate?
Romney's Mormon Cult BS was the Laughingstock Cult of the GOP 4 years ago, and they made it that to clinch the primary for McCain. Suddenly, 4 years later, it's ok that Romney TRULY BELIEVES that a god who created the universe is up there wringing his hands over anyone not wearing Magic Underwear, and he approves arranged child marriages, and this god also hates non-whites and gays enough to keep them from god's own table during the afterlife...
...suddenly, you people on the Right are OK with this whackadoo cult BS?? Yet, 4 years ago, it was your LAUGHINGSTOCK CULT...but now, you line up behind this whacky cult-moron to take turns licking his butt.
All you republicans do is prove every election cycle that you have no consistent values. In fact, you really have none at all, except hatred. The others, you sell for a dime to the highest and richest bidder. But, you never sell away your hate. You show the rest of us, all the time, how much you hold onto that!
Jerry, for once, stop being a coward and STOP TELLING LIES! This urban legend of yours has been disproven over and over. Even the GOP Governor of Hawaii at the time, who was a McCain supporter, came out publically and debunked this BS you are spewing and proved Obama's Birth Certificate was authentic and that he was born in Hawaii. Wow, you and Donald both -- Whackadoo City!
Even SNOPES.com has exhausted this in their research.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/birthcertificate.asp
Get some new material, child. This thumb-sucking, dishonest crap you are spewing here doesn't cut it anymore!
The Republican Party is a very rich and powerful political party with unlimited resources. If the President's birth certificate was fake, the GOP would have proven it before he was elected the first time.
And if the GOP/TP cannot prove something as simple as birth certificate fraud, why would we trust them to be able to handle the great responsibility of running this country?
silver... if Los Angeles burned for days because some cops were found not guilty of beating Rodney King, what on earth do you think would happen if Obama got thrown out. There are threats of violence if he loses the election fairly.
i just wish they would stop calling him black.
Hating is in human nature. A Delaware professor wrote in a book that raciest can only exist from white to a person of minority. In truth we all put a stereo type to a group for no reason. for example. Christians all they do is hate. Satanists all they want to do is sacrifice virgins( I worked with a lot of them as a Technician), it is the teachers fault that my child did not succeed.
I for example Have a dislike for people that have been unemployed for 2-3 years I think they are all worthless scumbags. but I suppress that and do not cause them violence and have worked to try to get them a job. I don't have an hate toward any color of skin. I actually find them attractive. (I actually find almost all women attractive especially with glasses).
I have been called racist when I point out culture and environment is what gives people these tendency's. For example I have found that men tend to do better with spacial math but that does not mean women cant. I have found women are better with spelling and grammar. that doesn't mean men cant be good at it also. Women tend to be better at comforting children. The largest environmental prejudice I have found is against accent. That is one thing that will not land you a job is an accent.
They have even done studies that Children are naturally fearful of people that are different (in any way).
In this question it shows that farm animals have outpaced White America in social responsibility. When you drive by a farm or pasture you notice all the farm animals are different colors. There black ones, red ones, spotted ones, brown ones, and even white ones. They are eating together, resting together, playing together, standing in the rain together, their color has no effect on their interaction, again, their color has no effect on their interaction with each other, even in the deep south, my, how far the farm animals have come in social maturity!!
FACT: The Mormon Church didn't allow Blacks to hold the Priesthood until 1976. FACT: Women in the Mormon Church are still not allowed to hold the Priesthood, and nor will they be ever under their current doctrine. FACT: Joseph Smith had multiple wives and considered this godly.
Silverton,
Thank you!!!!
The two people with the most to lose were H. Clinton and J. McCain, both extremely powerful individuals with innumerable assets at their disposal, does anyone really think they wouldn't have caught the whole, "Obama's not a citizen" thing if it had even an IOTA of truth to it???
Chris, et al,
I have to respectfully disagree here. I think that the questioning of citizenship issue is rooted in racism and stems back to the freeing of slaves. There rights were subsequently withheld because of claims that they weren't citizens or deserving of full citizenship. Questioning the legitimacy of someones "Americanism" is an old trick, played by dirty racists.
Furthermore, the double standard that Obama's been held to says quite a bit about the state of race relations in the U.S. Anyone who has even an inkling of how Obama's REALLY acted as president, knows that he's no different, better or worse, then any other POTUS we've had.
Yet never in my lifetime, at least, has so much paranoia surrounded one of our leaders.
Ask any honest student in a school that has a good sized population of black students in school about the difference between the behavior in the classroom between white and black students.
I hope that most people understand that this is just the AP trying to 'guilt' people into voting for Obama, again.
I doubt that it will work a second time.
By the way - other studies show that about 90% of Blacks are prejudiced against other Races.
Oh how refreshing. Yet ANOTHER poll of white Americans concerning their attitude toward other Races--as if European Americans were the only demographic in the whole wide world capable of prejudicial feelings. These polled are skewed to produce precisely these sorts of results. What is called "Ethnic Pride" when displayed by minorities, is interpreted as "Racism" when promoted by whites. One does not have travel far outside the Western World to realize the prejudice in favor of ones own group and against other groups, is the, sadly, normal human response to interaction with other groups, and is more overt and hostile in expression in many other countries, than it is here. In America, we, at least, make a conscious effort to try to get along.
I can understand measuring explicit results, but make claims based on implicit evidence is wildly off. Because the subjects were asked to respond to a picture of a Chinese person, they must be prejudiced against blacks. They didn't feel it, didn't consider it, didn't mention it, and in no other way indicated any way, shape form or fashion racism toward blacks. But those conducting the study decided that since nothing against blacks were indicated regarding the Chinese person, therefore said subjects are racist toward blacks. Be honest. Just say that the pseudo study was simply a waste of time and money in order to justify a foregone conclusion and to push a racist and/or race baiting agenda.
It wasn't a Chinese PERSON, it was a Chinese CHARACTER, you know, like 'writing'. The Chinese language doesn't use the "ABC" alphabet to write, they write (as do many other cultures) in CHARACTERS.
Next argument, please.
Yes Chinese does use characters they have 7,000 of them. They do have an abc version also.
CAZ-1310118, DMorgan, you're each suspended for a day for violating #1 of the Code of Honor.
JP-345944, don't smear everyone in a race. You're suspended for a day for violating #5 of the Code of Honor.
Shame...
yes. not that these polls really mean anything, but still you'd like to see something like this not come out like this, but it did. just a result of the media pitting us against one another.
I agree Bill (1 vote for conciseness) I disagree with this study for the following reasons:
Under 8 years of Bush you telling me the level of racism was lower than 4 years of Obama. Despite that since this is online there is no way of gauging the "background" of respondents. It can honestly be said that even racial differences manifest itself in the African American populace as Whites toward there own race... I.e. Blacks against "Uncle Toms"... Whites against "Trailer Trash" ( I subscribe to none of those veiws.. just making my point)
2nd, the only thing that gives credence to the poll is that Bush did more for the African (continent) which some Blacks feel are important issues than Obama who almost ignored them socially.
3rd. If I was inclined to believe the poll then there can only be one reason (two but it's one and the same) Obama and the economy. It is well known that the unemployment is higher for minorities (Black and Hispanic) than any other segment of the population. Obama has done nothing, beside being elected, to close the "racial gap" and would be hard pressed to find more than two speeches as President on the subject.
I Just don't buy it.. I do think that everyone can "describe" a bias that is conflated to be racism which is really a "opinion". Well one could take it or leave it though.. it is just my opinion...
Oh yeah... .... I'm Black... which in the great scheme of things and God.... doesn't mean a blessed thing because isn't supposed to be character?
Flame: You're not black. Stop that lie immediately. The backlash against blacks since Obama's election has been undeniable and fierce, and if you were black, you would certainly know it! Claiming you're black to support the (fraudulent) notion you're objective is plain BS.
Total nonsense, Dee.
I'm black, my sister's black--married to a white guy. We live in a republican state. Haven't seen one iota of prejudice--in my life.
Dee... can you please give me an example of this "backlash" you claim? I think you are part of the above survey.... just as racist as the racism you claim you suffered. Just going by your comment... funny thing is you make my point. You attack my race (or my assertion of the same) and then say I'm not authentic in my view because "No sane black would ever hold that view." Thank you for validating my opinion.
Another example of "there's nothing to indicate you're a racist, so you're a racist"
Bill Billington banned, rereg of multiple accounter clebro.
5 deleted, Sonjathatgal sharing how they don't 'particularly have any high regards for white folks' which led to a pretty terrible thread.
The media resorting to the race card. How in the world did this man get elected if we are so racist? Of course if Obama loses it MUST be racism.
The media is simply reporting a view on a story. If Obama wins, its because he won on merit. If Obama loses, its because he didn't win on Merit. Simple as that?
If Romney wins, its because so many bought his pack of lies and flip flops. If Romney loses, its because we rejected his pack of lies and flip flops.
Its 2012 America. GET OVER someone's race as a key to voting
And if he wins we will be hearing from Fox, Limbaugh and the rest of the right wing noise machine about voter fraud -- i.e. --- he got those blacks and illegals to vote for him.
cheaphoarde...get over it...Romney doesn't have the vote of educated women, men in the military, senior citizens or vets. No one of us wants a return of the Bush Era policies that cost millions their jobs and vulture venture capitalists and Madoffers to feast on all us. Sorry...but Romney offers only a return of the same. He has a 1950's relic mentality. Anyone who lived through the 1950's remembers the dark side of that era...Women paid a fraction of what men earned for the same work, Big Daddies getting to play Father Knows Best and Mom turned into Donna Reed clones. Let's not forget the destructive side of the 1950's....McCarthyism that caused a number of unnecessary suicides from unfounded accusations. There's no difference between Ryan and Roy Cohn...both are attack dogs who will eat alive anyone who disagrees with them.
We don't need vengeful, bigoted men at the helm. We need visionaries who see the future, not the past, of the US as the best direction for everyone.
Ewent - Romney gets so many votes from RACIST Republicans that this election is close. Republicans don't want to return to Bush so much, but even more, they want to get an old white guy back in the White House. As I said before, these Republicans would put an X on the ballot for Jerry Sandusky as long as he was on the Republican ticket. They just don't care. That's why Republicans worked so hard to trash this country for the last four years, so they could say Obama didn't improve it. The fact is - he has improved the country, but they are too RACIST to ever give him credit.
A.P. This so called news provider of which is liberal and leftist and democratic controled is racist, they knew this story would result in a rise of racisim and that was their intent. The democrats are the most racist party there is, if you would do your research you would find this to be the truth.
yes it gets a little tiring. i haven't met one racist white person ever in my life, but i guess they're out there somewhere. but i find the results of this poll nothing but bunk. there are simply not that many racist white people out there.
Bill; as President O would say, "you do not seem to get out much."
Bill Billington: "Methinks thou doest protest too much." Your gross exaggeration proves the lie.
The reason this election is going the way it is, is that so many younger whites unlike their parents honestly have friends of other races.
The problem with Republicans is that their children just simply aren't as prejudiced as they are.
While I would be the first to admit that their is a strain of racism and bigotry among some of the younger whites the truth is that most of them feel they can compete with blacks and anybody else without cheating.
Younger whites have a confidence about themselves about life and their ability that their parents and grandparents never had.
Older whites have always needed and edge, so they would resort to cheating or fixing the rules or other forms of legal chicanery to maintain their status and station in society.
The younger whites want to actually compete and be the best, and when they win they want to win on their own merits.
That is why those old whites are engaging in racism and bigotry as a campaign strategy and employing various forms of voter suppression techniques to keep the minority vote down.
The south may still be solid but the white vote is not.
And because of that reason President Obama has a better than average chance for reelection
Funny how republicans get the bad rap but this article states that there is basically no difference in the two parties. the percentage in each party is really very close. the only difference it states is that democrats try to hide it more or are as the article states are really just unaware of how racist they are. I wonder how the republican party voted in jindal, haley, scott, rubio. I wonder how colin powell and condeleeza rice became cabinet members. I could go on but i would only get excuses like "they are just the token black, brown, dot-heads etc." I really have to beg to differ about today's children wanting to compete. you see them on tv wanting their college paid for and other cradle to grave government subsistence. Yes, this is just another try by the media to guilt people into voting for Obama to PROVE they are not racist. Let me guess "Some of your best friends are black". By the way I CAN'T be racist because I'm not white.
I agree! I never gave racism a thought, grew up with, worked with and have been friends with many good black folks. But since 2008, I find that I am suddenly accused of being racist? I feel like I am a victim of racism, rather than a perpetrator. I call it reverse racism. I can't open my mouth or offer any criticism without being called racist and I am sick of it.
Am I a racist/ lets see I am white american male Obama supporter have Friends that are black white mexican. I hate Militant, loud people that think I owe them something because I am white. Most seem to be black or illegals have lived with both, so in a way I am racist because I treat them as they treat me but I refuse to apologize for who or what I am and will call a spade a spade .
"will call a spade a spade ." Nice racist comment.
Yes, bias exists. This is hardly newsworthy.
For some real scholarly work, let's compare the views of all races towards each other. If the study did this, why doesn't the author(s) share it?
Freedom figtr...and just "why" would you want to compare "all races toward each other?" In the hope that you can somehow prove that minorities are racists? How ignorant do some people have to get? If minorities are racists, maybe it's those bombings and cross burnings that caused it. Maybe it was the white hoods and robes marching in the tens of thousands in the 1940's and 50's of the KKK? Or should we just pretend that never happened and who was responsible? Your kind would love nothing better than to sweep all of the violence of the bigots perpetrated upon minorities in this country under the rug. Sorry...not going to happen.
All I need to do to shove racism in the face of bigots is speak one name: Byron de la Beckworth...murderer of 2 black men and white woman.
Ewent, Keep going, every time you post one more leftest like you wakes up and see's the errors of his or her ways. You talk about about big business taking gov handouts is unfare. I'm glad you agree with me that Prez Barry should of let the banks, Wall Street and the AUTO INDUSTRY fail. Maybe then we the tax payers wouldn't be on the hook for TRILLIONS in bailouts. You talk like every southern is racist and the great northeast is nothing but peaches and cream. You need to take a serious look at yourself, because you are spreading more hate in your posts than anyone I've ever seen. If I took your post and said the same things about blacks and the northeast you would think I was the biggest racist, uneducated, misinformed and hateful person ever. Hate is hate, racism is racism. Doesn't matter if its wrapped in black or white wrapper. FYI, the first prez candidate to accuse another of not being born in the USA and asked to see his birth certificate was Hilary Clinton accusing John McCann of being born overseas and asked to see his birth certificate. Just another fact you choose to conveniently forget. Finally for every Byron de la Beckworth you bring up I can raise you a DC snipper.
It's nice Obama gets a free ride for his failed Presidency because of the color of his skin.
You say he has failed, I say that he is the greatest president this country has ever had. See, my positive spit ball cancels your negative spit ball.
Don't fool yourself that you are making a point because you are NOT.
FreedomFigtr: You do know the word is 'fighter,' right? Comparing how various races consider each other is completely besides the point, because only blacks have always been at the bottom of the barrel and continuously discriminated against in this country. Only blacks were slaves. Which is also why whites accusing anybody of "playing the race card" is so dreadfully incorrect and morally bankrupt.
Race will cease to be an issue only when racism loses its power.
1 in 3 black men is incarcerated at some time in their lives--and conviction of a felony leaves them ineligible to vote for the rest of their lives, no matter how deeply they've been punished for their crimes or been rehabilitated. Most of these are convicted of relatively minor drug crimes. 1 in 100 people in this country are currently in prison--more than in any other nation, including Russia.
Only 1 in 160 white men experience incarceration, and by stunning numbers, they serve only jail time (up to a year) rather than prison time. Yet by even more stunning numbers, it's white men who commit fraud to such an extent as to have almost destroyed the national economy in 2008, and who by far damage taxpayers' interests by extracting 40% of America's wealth to offshore accounts to evade taxation.
Most of the men posting here are completely ignorant of real facts on the issue of race, and just about all are among those (as discovered in the study) who deny their racism while presenting it implicitly is many, many ways.
LooLoo,
What are you doing that you can't walk down a street in Detroit at night? I've done it a thousand times.
I've worked cases on Wyoming ave, Harper and Cadieux area, Euclid street, Cass ave, Lafayette, Livernois, Grand River, Grand Blvd... Volunteered in MLK High, Central High...
Even lived down there around Curtis and Meyers, Fort St and Jefferson.
No one's ever bothered me. Maybe because I don't mistake "poor" for "dangerous" or see the residents as the boogieman???
I feel that the reason we still have "racism" and "prejudicial feelings" is rather simple. No one likes to be told how to think! Laws can be passed all day telling people how to ACT, but try to tell someone how to think and you're done! Since Obummer (yeah, I know) has come into office, TV commercials, shows, newspeople and other visible persona, have been "switched on Black". America's biggest bigot - Oprah Winfrey - has her OWN network that deals almost totally with "Black reality" shows - most of which are talentless and assinine, but it puts blacks to work, so I guess it's all good! The 'pollsters' in the above article, asked Whites to respond to their feelings toward Blacks and Hispanics when given certain words - like 'hard-working, lazy, violent, friendly, etc. They got the responses that are TRUTHFUL - not PREJUDICED. Blacks and Hispanics ARE more violent, unfriendly, lazy and less hard-working. That is a FACT!!! Just look at the percentages of them in jails, on unemployment, in Sect. 8 support and more. Sure, sociologists will blame that on the Whites being discriminatory, but anyone who has ever walked through a town with a Black or Hispanic neighborhood has seen the reality. Prejudic does not keep anyone from having a clean neighborhood, lawn, house, business, etc. Get off the ultra-liberal band wagon and vote for the person you feel will do the best job for the country. The Black experiment seems to have been a total failure - there is a feeling among many of my colleagues and friends that there is no intellectual leadership in this country and that the priorities of the USA and convoluted. Can't somebody rewind that clock to about 1961 and take a close look at what the Presidency is SUPPOSED TO BE?!!
As opposed to the Kardashians or the Jersey Shore???
As is your prejudice. It must be exhausting to have studied in depth EVERY black and Hispanic person in the country, their upbringing, their work ethics and their beliefs.
Not surprising, considering that's about where your thinking stalled out.
I thought news was something NEW to me. What I want to know is...How many of Romney's flip-flops will it take before people consider him a LIAR, a person without character, a person NOT to be trusted. I want to know when voters make the connection that Romney has NO core beliefs and therefore is NOT a LEADER!!!
ImYerDaddy.....Romney would have to tell a lie every 5 seconds for the remainder of the Campaign to match Obozo, The KING of Liars. BTW, how many LIES has Obama told regarding the MURDER of our Ambassador and 3 other U.S. Patriotic CITIZENS in Benghazi by his Muslim Brothers?? I lost count.
Moderate inMadison...If you can't prove Obama's lies in a court of law...you get sued for libel...keep that in mind before you spout right wing rhetoric that has no basis in fact. Fact...that's the basis of truth. If you can't prove, you can't prove a lie.
Where was your concern for the 4,000 Americans killed in Iraq to jack Halliburton and Blackwater's profits? How about the 19,000 innocent Iraqis killed by Bush and Cheney...no worries from you about that? Course now, I'm sure you give a fat rat's ass about the 10,000 Americans maimed in Iraq, right? This doesn't begin to count the losses from 2002 until 2008 in Afghanistan...When you try to match what President Obama does to your hero blowhard from TX...you can't hope to catch up EVER.
You use that BS about Benghazi to try and even Bush and Cheney evil score and it's not happening...Even Condoleeza Rice says that she believes President Obama didn't lie about Benghazi...so ...want to man up now or look more like a fool?
ewent, from a white boy in missouri, you're awesome. Enjoyed reading your posts this morning. Keep up the good fight.
Moderate in Madison (wow,is that a mis-name) says:
"Romney would have to tell a lie every 5 seconds for the remainder of the Campaign to match Obozo, The KING of Liars. BTW, how many LIES has Obama told regarding the MURDER of our Ambassador and 3 other U.S. Patriotic CITIZENS in Benghazi by his Muslim Brothers?? I lost count."
If that statement is what passes for "moderate",then we have a real problem.First,while Romney may not lie every 5 seconds.Every one of his speeches are full of lie's and half truths. Second, calling the elected President of our country "Obozo" is a disgrace and says a lot about you right there. Third,the President has not told "lies" about the tragedy in Libya.And the fact that you imply by your words that he has and that he is not a citizen himself shows you as a "birther' or in other words a no-nothing.
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IN A SEPARATE POLL THEY ASK THE MEXICAN-AMERICANS IF THEY HELD ANY NEGATIVE FEELINGS TOWARDS WHITE-NON HIPANIC PEOPLE THERE WAS A 90% UNFAVORABLE VIEW OF WHITE PEOPLE WITH THE REMAINING 10% SAYING THEY WERE FAVORABLE. THE TEST WAS CONDUCTED BY ASKING QUESTIONS ONLINE AND ASSOCIATING THEM WITH WORDS LIKE LAZY, WHITE, REDNECK, HILLBILLY
TexasTakeover: Hispanics are treated so badly by white Texans like yourself, it's totally natural their perspective on whites is 90% unfavorable. If strangers of a certain demographic were always mistreating you, you'd have a hiughly negative opinion of them, too. Jeez.
Since Obama has been in office, anti-white, anti-Hispanic and anti -black prejudice has grown. Its part of his class warfare agenda.
Because Republicans stoke the fires of racial prejudice at every opportunity.
Former racist Dixiecrats = Present racist Republicrats
Yeh..that is amusing alright....to an IMBECILE. Yesterdays' Dixiecrats are STILL Todays' DemoCRAPS. Today, however, the Democraps use different "chains".....Welfare, Public or Subsidized Housing, Food Stamps, Medicaid, FREE Obamaramaringring Phones, Ghettoes, Drugs, et al "freebies".........DISTRACTED you are!!!
BALONEY!!!!!!!!!!!
In polite society we won't hear the N word being tossed around too much when it comes to President Obama or any other black person. But get where it's safe -- you find a different story. I see this at the club where I play golf all the time. In the club house, on the practice range -- you never hear a direct racist statement. Too many people around to hear you. Get 3 of these same good old white guys on the course where it's just the 4 of you and nobody else is around --- it sounds like a KKK gathering in Alabama in the 1950s. After the round and you're having a drink in the club house -- it's all polite again.
Lenny, As much as you might disagree with Gary, President Obama's message is one of class warfare. His constant references to the notion that rich American's do not pay "their fair share" is designed, on purpose, to divide people along lines of wealth. This political tactic ignores the facts that the top 20% of wage earners pay 80% of federal income taxes and that there is really no consensus on the meaning of "fair share". All it means is that some people feel "rich people" should pay more. I think "rich people" should pay more too. I just don't think its necessary to demonize them while we pick their pockets.
"President Obama's message is one of class warfare."
Oh -- so going back to the Clinton tax rates is class warfare? What was it during the Nixon era when the tax rate on the top earners was more than double what it is today? Was that class warfare?
Charlie, try reading my post then, and only then, respond with something actually related to the meaning of my post.
I think "rich people" should pay more too. I just don't think its necessary to demonize them while we pick their pockets.
They're NOT paying more. Mitt Romney probably pays a lower percentage of his income in taxes than you pay. The deck is stacked in favor of the top and it's not just federal taxes. State and local taxes stack the deck even more in favor of the top earners. President Obama wants to go back the the Clinton era taxes. That means people who have an adjusted gross income of more than $250,000 per year ($500,000 per family) will pay an additional 4% of income above that. And that's only on earned income. Income from interest, dividend sand capital gains will not be taxes at a higher rate. That;s NOT class warfare and that's NOT "picking their pockets."
Better Charlie, but you're still not getting it. The "class warfare" charge against the President doesn't have anything to do with the tax rate. I know they're not paying more, that's why I said I think they SHOULD pay more. The issue of class warfare has to do with the language the President CHOOSES to use to make his argument. It is designed to imply to the middle class that those mean-spirited rich people are bilking the system rather than what most of them are actually doing which is taking advantage of LEGAL tax strategies used to lower one's tax liability. If the President were not interested in fomenting class warfare, he would talk about improving our system of taxation rather than spewing on about people not paying their fair share. President Obama's approach is meant to divide people not bring them together.
Joemike- you're funny. Do you think no one knew there was class warfare going on until President Obama was elected? Do you really believe it didn't start until then. The rich have been eating the poor alive since the beginning of time but in America we have always claimed to be a classless society. Most people have caught on to the game since then.
Moderate in madison,
Is that Madison, Wisconsin? "Yeh..that is amusing alright....to an IMBECILE " you wrote. You must have been laughing your a$$ off.
Race is a big problem, though I believe the younger generations are more likely to harbor less prejudice's. I think it is quite telling, that alot of posters here, argue that blacks hate whites also. As this somehow makes their prejudice justified. I have no doubt that were I black, I would not look favorably on whites who showed me that I was less then them, with actions and words.
From my screen name, you can see that Im in the south and see these actions and words quite often.
I can expound on instances of crass and rude behavior all day. But, let me share just one.
I was walking into a cafeteria with a young Mong Vietnamese fellow. An older white male was walking out. We did not know this man, But in keeping with his upbringing of Southern Hospitality, he remarked in passing, something to the effect, that there was no Chinese food in the cafeteria for this young fellow.
The Mong were valuable allies to the US in the Vietnam War. Granted this youngster was not involved in that war. His Father was though, and fled with his family to the US, at the end of the war, and became a christian preacher in a Mong church here in the south.
So when people that look outwardly different, blacks, mong , chinese, hispanics tend to live enclaves (ghetto's) of there own kind, and have a distrust and dislike of white people, is it really a surprise?
O.K. One more. My father was homophobic. A Gay couple brought the old house next to us. Needless to say my Father wasn't happy. But my Father (a carpenter) was approached by this couple to do some renevations on there home. They treated my father with the utmost respect, stocked there refrigator with his favorite beer, prepared lunch and snacks for him. My Father ( WWII veteran) would have fought another war to protect this gay couple. For the rest of his life, he was a frequent visitor and their advocate in the nieghborhood.
joemike404, what Charlie-1915998 doesn't realize is he actually agrees that Mitt Romney is paying a high enough percentage of his earnings in federal taxes Take a look at his statement He wants the rich to pay 4% more on their EARNED income over $250,000/$500,000 but agrees interest, dividend and capital gains will not be taxes at a higher rate. ALL of Mitts earnings ae from interest, dividend and capital gains. Maybe he's really a GOP'er and just doesn't know it That or he needs to think before posting his rants. Thanks Charlie, glad you agree Mitt pays his "fair share" and welcome to our party
Rufus, glad you think I'm amusing...
The American I live in has been comparing lower, middle and upper classes for all of my 55+ years. I don't know what you're basing your statement on of our cultural assertion of a classless society. You are absolutely correct. President Obama is not the only person engaging in class warfare. I think though that if he's going to do it, he should own it.
It isn't class warfare to point out that the system is set up to benefit those at the top and keep everyone else from getting there. This won't change until it is changed, and people who insist there is no class warfare or war on women haven't been looking. There is plenty of corporate welfare and has been for many years, but we aren't supposed to point that out even as poor people who need help are blasted for not being rich? How funny it is that it's okay to call someone you don't understand a welfare mooch, but we can't point out that rich people are getting plenty of breaks they don't need that are keeping money out of the system and keeping people from moving or breaking even.
"He wants the rich to pay 4% more on their EARNED income over $250,000/$500,000 but agrees interest, dividend and capital gains will not be taxes at a higher rate".
Not exactly. I simply pointed out that President Obama wants the top to pay 4% more in taxes on earnings above 250,000 per year (adjusted gross income/single person) That's a debatable issue --- NOT class warfare. As for taxes on unearned income -- the President has said next to nothing on that. My personal opinion is we need to take a look at that also -- perhaps setting up some kind of graduated system.
Bottom line -- anyone believing we can fix out economy and bring down the deficit without some increase in taxes is living in a dream world. And if you believe Mitt can cut taxes, increase military spending while not cutting Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Education and veterans benefits and reduce the deficit at the same time (like he says he can do) --- not only do you live in a dream world, you're stupid.
Charlie you still don't get it this election is not about whats good for america look at last four years of congress it's about getting the ni--er out of the white house.
Gees.... I hope they didn't pay too much for that study.... I could have told them that for free.... The USA reminds me of South Africa way back in the 1960's.... and we will have the same things happening as we become a "non white" nation.... the GOP will get what it deserves....
The GOP will get what they deserve?...Bring it on....we are ready for you!!!
Navyet,
The voting thing is supposed to bring about a peaceful transition of government.
If the President loses the election will his supporters riot? The Occupy wall street people back in the news.
How will that look to the rest of the world when we have to call out our national guard troops to subdue violent protesters? A bit like Syria?
Truth is we are all headed for a financial wreck because our leaders spent too much money we don't have.
I was on a sailboat one time and the Captain could see we were headed for the shallows and would soon be stuck in the mud. He said to some hapless crew member, "Here, take the helm for awhile." Soon we were aground and the Captain said, "Hey! you fool, what did you do!"
I hope we keep this current President at the helm. Then we will know who is to blame.
This President has done more to divide America with his class warfare than any President I can remember. Maybe thats why we still have problems with the race issue because our President is a divider not a uniter. I don't know if America wil everl recover from his disastrous policies The President has been a huge failure and Kevin...... it looks like the Republicans turn to try and straighten out the mess this Democrat has created.
BTW......I don't like either party because they are in it for themselves not the people. Time to fire the President and everyone else who is in office, Republican and Democrat. No Politician deserves more than 1 term.
Man of Steel. Please be very specific on how Pres. Obama has divided this country. Tossing out comments without specifics to back them up is like trying to fish in a desert.
What disastrous policies are you talking about? How has the president been a huge failure?
My guess is you are a closet liberal (YAY!). If you or anyone in your family has used unemployement, or if your grandparents, parents, older aunts and uncles recieve social security and medicare. You believe in socialism and you therefore, back President Obama. Good for you!
Oh skil, so why do you think this time people would riot? Hmm...calling out troops if an election goes against people's wishes? What do you think is different this time that would mean that Americans would lose control and riot if the election is legal and ethically carried out?
Prejudice has ALWAYS been a problem in the IGNORANT SOUTH; WHy do you think all the southern states are republiCON ????
READ THIS ABOUT THE RICH AND CORRUPT :
THOMAS PETERFFY - The facts about a BILLIONAIRE BOZO... with lots of money to spend:
by TennesseeEd
I know everyone has been seeing the "sad-droopy-eared-hound-dog-boo-hoo" type ad that the sorry LIAR republiCON, THOMAS PETERFFY, has been running, day and night, to degrade, demean and harass our president, PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA, LIBERALS and the DEMOCRATIC PARTY. It seems to bring a fleeting tear to the eyes of those who do not know the facts behind THOMAS PETERFFY; but I am here to clear up the details concerning this sorry, sloth, LYING, self righteous and enormously wealthy "scoundrel putz". I call it "THE SECRET mitt romney - thomas peterffy FIVE POINT PLAN" for a better WEALTHY PERSON ECONOMY :
FACT and POINT # 1 : THOMAS PETERFFY was born in Hungary, a COMMUNIST country, not a SOCIALIST country. He fled Hungary to escape COMMUNISM, not SOCIALISM. There is a BIG difference; COMMUNISM is a POLITICAL system and SOCIALISM is an ECONOMIC system found in many political systems (even in the USA). So, Thomas Peterffy's painted scenario of a NATION OF POOR PEOPLE because of SOCIALISM is a pure LIE. Communism holds the responsibility for making the poor poorer and in forcing these "ad-pictured-poor" to work like dogs for the VERY RICH.
The ultimate DREAM of every USA republiCON is to have only TWO CLASSES of citizens; THE VERY RICH and THE VERY POOR. Of course the VERY POOR would be forced to work like a dog for the VERY RICH !!! This is COMMUNISM....(LOOK IT UP)
Monarchies like The British Isles, France and many other countries have a SOCIALIST government; they are doing GREAT and are NOT COMMUNIST !!! We already have MANY socialized economic structures here in The United States of America; they include the post office, schools, libraries, FBI, CIA, Secret Service, police , fire departments, parks, TVA dam hydro-electric systems, roads and highway departments, health departments and many other organizations you don't even know exist !!! These structures are SOUND because the government regulates and watches over them to keep them that way !!! So... what is the big deal and the BIG SCARE about OBAMACARE ??? Could it be that the wealthy has trillions invested into the INSURANCE and HOSPITAL INDUSTRY, much like the OIL INDUSTRY, and they are afraid of losing a Rolls Royce or two ???
FACT and POINT # 2 : THOMAS PETERFFY made this statement about how to be a CEO of a major manufacturing company that provides millions of JOBS : PETERFFY SAID, "I think the way a CEO runs his company is a reflection of his background. Business is a collection of processes, and my job is to AUTOMATE those processes so that they can be done with the greatest amount of efficiency.". In addition, during his financial career, as a RICH MAN, he consistently worked to replace MANUAL processes (requiring a human worker) with more AUTOMATED ones (no human worker) that he called more efficient !!! What a slap in the face this is to most of the middle class and all poor people who make up the working class of our nation !!! This is another way for a republiCON to become MORE and MORE WEALTHY, the MIDDLE CLASS becoming poor and the POOR becoming devastatingly POORER !!!
FACT and POINT # 3 : THOMAS PETERFFY has donated AT LEAST $60,000.00 in campaign contributions to the republiCON party, even though he claims to be an Independent. His other secret campaign contributions may be in the billion dollar range !!! This would hold true for a republiCON, because the sloth gop seething viper will do anything, say anything, tell any LIE and drop to any LOW to hold on to their RICHES !!! They would sell their souls and their own disabled mother to the devil if they thought it would make them the richest man on the planet !!! Speaking of souls;.....joining CHURCH and STATE is their ultimate goal; to kill off who they do not like....in the name of GOD and JESUS.
FACT and POINT # 4 : THOMAS PETERFFY has PERSONALLY paid MILLIONS OF DOLLARS to CNN, CNBC and BLOOMBERG TELEVISION for these anti-socialism ads. This is a lot of money for a poor little "boo-hoo" refugee from a so-called socialist and communist country to spend, isn't it ???
FACT and POINT # 5 : THOMAS PETERFFY, as of September 2012, is worth over 4.6 BILLION DOLLARS ($4, 600,000,000.00). His favorite POLITICIAN is mitt romney and his worth is over $190 - 250 MILLION ($250,000,000.00) !!! Does this tell you who's side those two rich boys are on ??? Do I need to spell it out ???
Now I ask you, "Who do you think THOMAS PETERFFY and MITT ROMNEY support; ..... the hard-working poor and middle class.....OR THE VERY LAZY NON-WORKING WEALTHY???"
PLEASE VOTE FOR OBAMA / BIDEN : The people who support the poor and hard working people of AMERICA !!! TennesseeEd
Mr. Ed the talking Horse.......Hi WILBUR!!!! u r an idiot.
No Charlie, the South is just plain more racist! They used to vote solid Democratic back in the 50's and earlier because Abe Lincoln was from the REPUBLICAN Party! And Abe Lincoln let Sherman march to the sea destroying everything in his path from Atlanta, GA to the ocean. So they hated Republicans for a 100 years, now they hate Democrats because Lyndon Johnson, a Democratic President, got the civil rights act passed and demanded that schools be integrated. So now the South goes solid REPUBLICAN. They are the most RACISTS people on the entire planet!
Well, LT, there is a lot of racism here and I agree with you on that. Not sure I would say most racist on the planet, but there is a lot here for sure. It is NOT all racists here, though, so perhaps you could agree that not every southerner is racist? There is racism in all areas of the country, but it presents differently depending on the area.
And no, it isn't always overt. Southern people are great at sugarcoating things, so the racism has become sometimes overt, but sometimes code words that like-minded people know. Saying I hate you nicely with a smile or behind your back still means I hate you in my view. BUT not all Southern people are racists, so please don't say all. It isn't true any more than saying all Northerners aren't racist.
"No Charlie, the South is just plain more racist!"
If the south is so racist then why have the democrats elected 3 of the last 4 democrats from the deep south?????
Your lack of an education is very self-evident in your childish comments. Try actually looking up the definition of communism and you will see it is more of a liberal life style than a conservative one.
Why you are so ignorant of basic economics is obviously the reason why you rant about one person who became successful and has views different from yours. Did he steal your ice cream while you were a toddler???
So when are you going to force the unions of America to force their workers to ALL have the same wage and benefits? To include their extremely well paid executives?
When are you going to allow the homeless to camp out in your living room?
When are you going to pay your fair share of taxes? After all to the really poor you look rich to them.
When are you going to stop buying products made by all those evil rich people companies? If you have a job I hope you are picketing your employer everyday so he can cut your pay and hire more morons to sit at computers and make stupid comments.
to Little Chicken, you know the one how couldn't make O6. Maybe if you were smart enough to know that your great example Johnson came from the south along with your second hero Carter and the guy who not only didn't inhale but never had sex also came from the deep south you would see how stupid your comments are.
Interesting how most of you fools seem to quickly gloss over the one democratic president Obama looked up to, JFK! But then he made a statement that every democrat since has tried to erase.
"Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country".
I am sure you will say it was taken out of context and he really meant to say,
"Ask not what you can do for your country, but what your country can do for you".
Now lets get out there and sign up more people for welfare and other free government programs.
russ-9 maybe if it was not for so many like romney and bain capital sending jobs to china we would not need to sign people up for welfare. romney is definitely one of the ones that ask what can my country do for me.
Prejudice in the twenty first century? Who would have thought. I bet it's Bush's fault.
i believe a good many of racists within the GOP will ultimately vote for Obama (we just will never hear them admit it). Face it, even though you may be racist, it's tough to ignore that the BLACK MAN running for President has PROVEN to be the MOST QUALIFIED AND INTELLIGENT man for the job. While these racists may be IGNORANT, they may NOT be totally stupid.
@HoosYe....you should drink coffee in the morning instead of kool-aid.
~~If you're not outraged by the direction of this country, you're just not paying attention~~
"Racist" and "not too stupid" are phrases that can't be used in the same sentence.
I agree with Mark. These Republicans have shown that they are willing to take down the country to get this President out. They are racists and they are not going to vote in any sensible fashion.
Sal, that is your opinion. You are entitled to it, but that doesn't mean you are right and anyone who thinks differently is wrong.
Hey little chicken aka LTC. How did it feel when you were part of the most segregated group of people in the US? You know the ones who set up neighborhoods for only their kind and the only way a lower class person could come into your club was as a servant? Not to mention all the other 'special' perks that your class received in pay and allowances. Must have made you feel really special to have all those lower people salute you everyday, even when you didn't deserve it.
So now that you have made your own higher pay and benefits you want to dump on everyone else to keep them from obtaining what you obviously didn't earn. Other wise why do feel it important to advertise your little chicken rank to everyone?
PS I served 26 years as one of the lower class and had to deal with you elitists on a daily basis. Fortunately most of the other O's were a class act.
Election day is close, and the desperate liberal media is flinging as much bs as they can in hopes something will stick. ROMNEY 2012-2020
Have you ever used unemployment? Do your grandparents, parents or older aunts and uncles receive social security and medicare? If the answer to any of these is YES, count yourself a liberal. Welcome to the club buddy!
Using those things doesn't make you a liberal, but using those things or having your family benefit from any of them and then saying that they are all disgusting and should be eliminated sure makes a person clueless or a hypocrite.
Nice way to go with the Race card MSNBC. Why don't you cover the topic of how hateful Black people are to other races? Black people are some of the most hateful and racist people I've meet, and no - they do not get a free pass to act that way. They suck just as much as all other races.
Why don't you cover the topic of how hateful Black people are to other races?
First of all -- 2 wrongs DO NOT make a right.
Secondly -- we have more white people who hate blacks than blacks who hate whites.
Thirdly --- how many black people have you actually med and actually know?
Johnny.....have you ever read a history book? Do you have any knowledge whatsoever of what it took for the black race to even get where they are now? My guess is no, you don't. My other guess is that you are afraid because you see what is happening in this world; the old fat white men are dying out. Even they know that this, or perhaps the next presidential race, along with congressional will not be decided by a white majority. It's simply not possible anymore. Harry Reid was voted back to the senate because of the Latino vote-period. The republican party has alienated every race but white people who can't look at themselves and admit they have racist issues.
So saying that, "Black people are some of the most hateful and racist people I've meet(sic)" isn't a bit of a sweeping generalization in and of itself? Perhaps you hadn't noticed the hateful and racist people who don't happen to be black? Or were you focusing on the black hateful people? I hate to tell you this, but there are hateful and racist people of all shades and cultures. You are right, though, that no one should get a free pass to act that way.
It's okay, Charlie, I'm sure Johnny has ~black friends~ and they are perfectly okay with his sweeping generalization. Right, Johnny?
Racism will always be with us.
What's the big deal?
Talk about a totally bogus study and a complete waste of time.
Had it gone on to show that somewhere near 90% of blacks are prejudice against whites, it might have been worth giving at least a passing consideration. Instead, it is just a fluff piece meant to make some people feel guilty enough to vote for Obama just because of his race. His race is the only thing that got him elected in the first place and it damn sure won't be his performance that gets him re-elected. With any luck at all , that won't happen. All human beings are prejudiced against something. If you try and claim otherwise you are a liar.
Yes, I have a deep bias against stupid people.
'90% of blacks are prejudice against whites" ...... let me fix that for ya... "90% of blacks are prejudice against republicans." ...there ya go.
But I will agree with your last 2 sentences. Spot on
Espliff....well said. You can add Latinos to that too.
President Obama's "performance" has been exemplary in spite of being blockaded by fools who would destroy the country rather than cooperate with another human whose skin is a few shades deeper than theirs. Of course, Obama's brain and superior mental capacities, not to mention his self-control and ability to stay cool under pressure has shown us the kind of man one would think American males would choose as a role model. Instead, right-wingers allow namby-pamby whiners who believe rape is fine and bullying should be common practice to be their standard-bearers.
Who can take these people seriously? Even if they win in politics, they have still lost their humanity.
The only reason he was elected was because he is black? A bit clueless you are there...lol.
laffinatfools, good point. The greatest hate is among young, black males. They are also the group who commits 70% of all the violent crimes in the US. There hate is learned on the streets. They usually have just one parent at home and the street gangs become the "other parent." It goes down hill from there.
If EVERY Democrat would come out on election day and vote we WILL win this election. I'm a former Republican and I can tell you the GOP is FULL or racists. They are driving the electorate (once again) to BE AFRAID, STAY AFRAID, BE AFRAID... what a bunch of losers.
The TRUTH is that President Obama has rebuilt this country economically, turned the jobs, housing and stock markets around, passed a critical piece of legislation in the Affordable Care Act, passed the equal pay for equal work bill and ended a war... safeguarded Social Security for our Seniors...
If he were a white man you all would be building a battleship with his name on it... JUST SAYING. I WORK HARD EVERY DAY TO GET THIS MAN RE-ELECTED... VOTE... VOTE... VOTE! As if the future of this country depends on it, because it does!
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Wow, jenncoolfla....is it healthy to drink kool-aid so early in the morning?
~~If you're not outraged by the direction of this country, you're just not paying attention~~
Charlie...you are spot on! Their blather consists of fearing other cultures (watch out white people, the blacks, latinos, muslims, etc are going to take your money, your home, your job, oh my!). Fearing that the world will be destroyed unless they control the military (watch out for Putin people, he's even scarier with his shirt on, better start building a bomb shelter in your backyard). Fearing people who are gay (you all know that if you touch a gay person you will become gay, right....better buy the special gay repellent spray).
Fear the republican party. They want to lower taxes for super wealthy people (really, how much money is enough?). Middle class folks, do you really think their money will "trickle down"? Bush senior called this "voodoo" economics. They want to make it harder for folks other than themselves to have health insurance (the proof is in their rhetoric; Romney says the emergency room is the place to go if you have no insurance). Their party has tried to implement strict voter laws in the last few years like NEVER before. Why?
A proud liberal, or libby as some of you folks on this thread use. Better than being called a right-winged nut job.
HELL NO! I'm not racist! I HATE EVERYBODY!
Great poll. Way to go to stir to pot.
Here's the real reason Obama might lose this election: A huge percentage of Americans are faster to BLAME him for the bad things and slower to CREDIT him for the good things in these past four years. Folks, get real, virtually ALL Americans harbor subconscious racism against some group..... you may not admit it to yourself, but it is what our society teaches. I know, because as a white woman from a so-called liberal family, I've had seen, heard, and even felt my racial assumptions under the surface of my family and myself. We only get rid of racism by looking it in the face and realizing how stupid it is.
Bush caused a MASSIVE twenty car pile up car crash of our economy.... and Obama's been working hard with a tow truck to clear it up for four years... but you've got republicans adding to the wreckage and than blaming the guy trying to clean up the mess for not moving faster.
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Obama and his AG Eric Holder are the ones to thank for that as they have purposely set back race relations about 60 years.
Only among retards.
Explain yourself please
"Fast and Furious", The NBPP, Trayvon Martin / George Zimmerman Case, AG FEDERAL Attacks on State Sponsored VOTER I.D. Laws and Illegal Immigration, NOT ONE SINGLE CASE BROUGHT BY the AG With-HOLDER against an African American since he and the "trash talker" from Chicago took office. Want more 'splainin'????
The game was rigged from the beginning. If he succeeded he gets praised because he was a liberal black and if he failed it would be was because you are racist. What ever happened to judging the man by his achievements and character and not the color of his skin? As the old politicians will tell you, if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. In the president's case much can be said about both his achievements and failures so just get over it.
So very true. Obammy loves to play that race card.
Well, I agree the game was rigged from the beginning. It was rigged from the point where the opposing party stated that getting him out of office and blocking anything he wanted passed whether they agreed with it or even wrote it would be their sole purpose for 4 years. Wonder why that was said this time? Hmm...race relations. Now who was it that sees him totally differently than previous presidents? Hmm...all we will do with these four years we could use to rebuild the economy will be to ruin this man and insert ourselves into all the bedrooms and vaginas we can.
Hmm...
This is frustrating. I was brought up to respect all races . Most folks want to get up ,go to work,raise there kids and get along with every one. What the heck is so hard about this.
To hell with those who use race to there advantage and to those who think they are beter than others becaus of there race. I have seen both sides of the coin.
Lets look at each other the way God looks at us
God looks at us with unconditional love. It is sad that few on this board are able to do the same.
21 It is not everyone that says to me, 'My Lord, my Lord'', who enters the Kingdom of Heaven, but
whoever does the will of my Father who is in Heaven. 22 Many will say to me
in that day, 'My Lord, my Lord, have we not prophesied in your name, and in your
name have cast out demons, and have done many mighty works in your name?' 23 And
then I will confess to them, 'I have never known you, remove yourselves far from
me, you workers of evil.' (Matthew 7:21-23)
I can assure anyone who reads this post that racial hatred is NOT the will of God.
Well...here are two reasons for the growing mistrust of Blacks in our society...Jessy Jackson and Al Sharpton.
Ya right the Rush Limbaugh's of the black race and just about as relevant!
Oh -- so 2 people represent an entire race. Bill -- they say you can't fix stupid and you prove it.
Continuing mistrust of blacks is fueled by the fact that they commit most of the crime in the U.S. (relative to their percentage of the population ). No one in the liberal media is willing to address this fact. Until this problem is confronted-racism against black people will continue and even grow
The article did not mention racism against whites. The most racist people in our society are young,
black males. It does not help that a large percentage of black children have no father. Another issue
society needs to confront.
Please be specific about what type of racism there is against white people. Tossing that kind of statement out is ridiculous without (strong) evidence. That's like saying the majority of folks on food stamps are black people when that is not the case, and has been proven not true. If you are not a racist, you would NOT have made that comment. Folks who are not bigots do not say this kind of crap. We don't need to. We know better.
Start with the volume of black on white crime. Confirm this by going to you tube and watching the videos of black youths beating whites. Better yet, read your newspaper.
Don't assume that because people have negative things to say about a different race-that they are racist!
Would you care to dispute the first or last sentence of my post? This is the real basis for racism.
Well, when you search you tube and look for stories ONLY related to black on white crime, ofcouse you are going to find it. There have been centuries of white on black crime in America (ofcourse you are not counting that obviously), along with white on latino, white on Asain, white on American Indians (the saddest and most depressing of all) and white on white (Jews, Irish, and any other person British Anglo Saxons thought they were better than).
There is real evil in this World. To destroy live and think nothing of it is demonic. And add to that a overwhelming arrogant view that live on Earth is YOUR doing and you created all live (The image of God is portrayed as a white man . God created Earth and the first humans. Therefore, white man created all life). With that enculturation and training, what type of person do you think it will create?????
Interesting that you have decided to lump all Blacks as one, declaring that all young black men commit all of the crimes that occur. Would it help you if we all decided that all whites who join militias and neo Nazis define all of the white men in this society. While there is a lot of black on black crime, there is also a lot of white on black crime along with white on white crime. No ethnic group is responsible for all of the crime that exists in this country. If that was true, we would assume that all white men think like Timothy McVey. Your remarks tend toward the ridiculous and true racism.
A lot of racism can also be found in Churches. The Pastor who decided to burn the Quran was spouting words of hatred in the name of God. How is this possible, when God says "we are all children of God". There is no distinction as to whether they are Muslim, Jewish, Christian, Buddhist or any other religion. People all worship differently but still essentially to God.
I remember when I was a little girl and had a Catholic Church near where we lived, but we couldn't attend that Church because blacks were not allowed in the Church. We therefore walked miles in the opposite direction to attend a "black Catholic Church". This was the way these people chose to live according to the "word of God", by excluding a certain ethnic group. Maybe you find this to be correct.
I also remember when my sister would take her 3 year old daughter to the Catholic Church near her. Each week she and her daughter had an entire pew to themselves because no one would sit near them. The final straw was when her daughter reached her hand out during the "kiss of peace' and no one would shake her hand. My sister then decided that it was impossible to teach her daughter about God's love for all people when she was seeing for herself that people were not practicing God's word. My sister then took her daughter to an Episcopal Church and she was so well received. This Episcopal Church was predominantly white, with a diverse congregation. She and her daughter were received into the Episcopal Church and I later decided on the same path. I absolutely dislike the ambiguity of many people going to Church every Sunday and not practicing the word of God.
Say what you will Vincenzo, I refuse to agree with your statement of black on white crime, as you have forgotten the white on black crime which still continues today; they just don't wear the hoods.
I will always believe that those who make derogatory remarks about any ethnic group are both ignorant and racist. I love your statement about reading a newspaper, something you obviously don't do.
I used to work at a police department for over 10 years. I promise you that the amount of crime committed by white people is JUST AS BAD. It's simply not made public the same way it is with other cultures. White folks kill, rape, beat and do all other abhorent things to others that this society finds repulsive and evil. If having "no father" is the only excuse you can use, then you are simply using the classic racist excuse. If you think a father has to be in the house to make a difference, you're wrong. A father who is indifferent towards their children is JUST as bad as not being there. It simply makes them look better to society. Those kids are not any better emotionally than those without a father at home. Clearly I read the news, otherwise I would not be posting. Understand?
You are a racist.
You should be ashamed.
Your family is ashamed of you.
Your neighbors are ashamed of you.
You are a stain.
Harbinger-22186.46
Read the third sentence in my posting. How convenient of you to call someone a racist because they make a negative comment on another race.
Also read the first and last sentence of my post. Whatever you think-these are correct. Swallow your wounded pride and admit it.
Last comment: I voted for Obama in 2008 and will vote for him in 2012. Does this sound like a racist to you?
Vincenzo-789572, you make very good points. I too voted for Obama in 2008 but can not do that again.
The problems in the black communities start with the high illegitimacy rate. A kid in a single parent home has a tough time making it these days.
vince not racist just a sheeple of socialism you probably voted for obama to prove you are not racist to make yourself feel better and knew nothing about his agendas
Okie58, please tell those of us who do not live in OK about the Greenwood Riot that happened in Tulsa. Why did the state of OK deny and even go so far as to purge all records of this tragic moment in American history not to mention total denial in OK? I know for a fact what happened and why it happened for several reasons and it was not as the Whites depicted as the cause. I found the truth in the federal repository at the University of Tulsa as a student. By the way my family has been in OK since 1832 and still live on those lands to this day so do not try to white wash this question.
Okie58
I voted for Obama because I was sick of George Bush and his ilk. I will vote for Obama again because Romney is strictly for the ultra rich and powerful.
The problem is not with Obama-it is with a Republican house that refuses to work with him.
What a lame excuse. It's the Presidents job to get Congress to work with him. Or maybe it is Bush's fault?
@ Francle,
Please go back to school and learn how our government works.
Why doesn't someone do a poll about blacks being racist against whites. I honestly think everyone would be suprised. I would bet that 90% of the blacks who voted for obama in 2008, voted simply because of his skin color. But that would be a racist poll wouldn't it.
ROMNEY/RYAN 2012
because THE BLACK VIEW IS ALL LOVING A KNOWING according to msnbc ......keep in mind most viewers of msnbc are black at 45% and if they want to hear there hated and there being beaten down by THE EVIL WHITE MAN then that's what MSNBC will print
i work at a candy store in the ghetto. i often hear black kids says "white people are ugly" and i see stickers that say "white people ruin everything." racism is taught. whoever is raising them is telling them the same as other racial groups. blacks also dislike whites. racism goes both ways.