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Subscribe to RSSTwo children found sitting by the side of Interstate 90 in western Idaho Tuesday told sheriff’s deputies that their mother had left them there after running out of gas, officials said.
Kootenai County Sheriff’s Office said in a statement that the boys, aged three and six, said their mother had walked them to the spot on I- 90 where they were found. The kids said they had been taken there when it was still dark and raining.
She then took a ride to a gas station between 6:30 a.m. and 7:30 a.m. local time (8:30 a.m. and 9:30 a.m. ET), the statement said. A construction supervisor working nearby found the children at about 9:10 a.m. local time (11:10 a.m. ET).
'Argument with her boyfriend'
The woman was arrested on a negligent driving warrant at a house in Spokane Valley, Wash., on Tuesday night after deputies received a tip-off that she was there, NBC station KHQ reported. Kootenai and Spokane counties are on either side of the state line.
KHQ said the mother would most likely face more charges in Kootenai.
The sheriff’s office statement said the woman told the person who gave her the ride that “she had been in an argument with her boyfriend and just needed to get to a phone to call for a ride.”
The children – after being cleared by emergency medical providers – were placed in foster care.
KHQ reported that the woman was seen with her children at a Walmart near the state line Monday night. Someone called police saying she was acting strangely and she was checked out by medics.
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Let the arguments for and against forced sterlization begin.
Thanks Bill,
I'll start it off with:
some folks, male and female alike, just do not have the responsibility it takes to raise and nurture children. If this were a perfect world, thee contemptible act to those two children would have never happened. However, this is reality and the courts will determine the punishment when the trial begins. Sometimes forced sterilization should still be a deterrent.
If Mitt Romeny were President he will overturn Roe v Wade and women will have no choice as to their bodies. Is that really a government decision?
What this woman did was horrible.
IXLR8 does it mean that women don't have the brains and willpower to be abstinent?
Maybe they should let only married couples, where the spouses are one man and one woman, have children, and only after passing a test where they show they understand what it takes to raise children and to make sure they love themselves enough to love their own offspring.
Most people who are cruel to their own children loathe themselves.
Unbelievable.
Lots of people like to have sex, but lots of people also don't know how or don't want to take care of children. I don't want to go around forcefully sterilizing people, but at some point someone has to reduce the herd or it will start dying off from lack of resources.
does it mean that women don't have the brains and willpower to be abstinent?
No to Comm, That is the most ignorant statement I have seen in awhile. Did you get that from the Archie Bunker handbook?
No to Communism,
please reread your post and try to understand how inherently sexist it is: "does it mean that women don't have the brains and willpower to be abstinent?"...so...it's ok for the boys to not have the brains and willpower to be abstinent and leave it for the girls to make sure they do not get left "holding the baby"? If we are facing a world where that mindset holds true, womens' reproductive rights are at risk and funding for the social net are obliterated you will see LOTS of stories like this...and God help us all...
Sorry. Forced sterilization was done to the "poor and undesirable" from the 30's to the 60s. It is called Eugenics and it is now outlawed and for good reason.
It is a small step to go from sterilizing people who mistreat their children, to going back to doing it to poor people and those thought somehow undesirable. Please do some research into eugenics and while your doing that, think about what would happen if you or a family member started to fit into people's idea of "undesirable". People do not understand what would come their way if we started any kind of eugenics again. The long term results would be devastating for millions, even if it where instituted in "good faith".
This is why we should have free birth control and sterilization for anyone who wants it, and encourage long-term options such as IUD's and implants. Short term cost, long term savings.
To all those responding to NO to communism's comments
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IXLR8 does it mean that women don't have the brains and willpower to be abstinent?
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Why are you waisting your time responding to his/her remarks? He/She referenced the word abstinence and also clearly commented on "one man and one woman". It's 2012, not 1935. time will pass by people like this very fast.....like the dinosaurs.
Ah, yes. Here we go..... but we've already been there. Eugenics. Eugenics, a VERY popular "method" in the '20's and '30's, was the foundation for Hitler's annhilation of the mentally-ill, homosexuals, even the deaf and blind.
Eugenics is the forced sterilization of "undesirables" who, to keep them from being a 'burden' to society, were sterilized, en masse (that means a whole bunch at once).
This woman is OBVIOUSLY mentally-ill and unable to care for her two children. That DOESN'T mean she deserves to be "strung up by her heels in the nearest tree" or any such thing. She's ILL. She's SICK. She's SICK, and she cannot make good decisions regarding these two children. For all we know, she doesn't even HAVE a boyfriend, we've seen THAT before, too.
Under the "theory" of EUGENICS, these two little boys should be STERILIZED, and as soon as they reach puberty, so as to not pass on their mother's MENTAL ILLNESS, or DRUG ADDICTION, or just plain old POOR PARENTING, to their own children.
So who's going to vote for that? WHO is going to vote for the STERILIZATION OF THESE TWO LITTLE BOYS, SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE LIKE THEIR OWN MOTHER?!?
Ken, I was respond to IXILR8 on his post saying that abortion is the only choice for women.
It is sexist instead to assume that all women are so dumb that they can't use birth control or control themselves when it comes to sex.
And yes, children are in the healthiest of situations only with a married mother and a father, any other arrangement screws them up.
And if all the girls would learn to say no and wait, all the boys would go pay for the fun.
It's 2012, it's time we learned something that old traditions know better, you can't throw away 2000 years of wisdom and think that something different is better.
Obviously, being a parent is the one job in this world that doesn't come with a training manual and there is no intelligence requirement. But, it wouldn't surprise me if the woman was on welfare. If that is the case, then sterilization is not really needed to change things around. The biggest thing government can and should do is stop rewarding people for having kids. It's really not that difficult. If you are already receiving welfare then you don't get any increases if you have more kids. After all, the welfare system was set up in the first place to take care of those who cannot take care of themselves and for those, through no fault of their own, find themselves needing a helping hand to get back on their feet. Unfortunately, it has turned into a cash cow to encourage people to be irresponsible.
The sad thing about welfare is that it is the taxpayers who are getting screwed the most. The fact is that there is no "watchdog" looking after the taxpayers. You have people who want free money applying for it. You have state workers who are looking to keep their jobs, so they know they have to have the numbers their to support the state hiring them. That leads to getting people getting on welfare who shouldn't and others who continue to receive benefits who shouldn't.
We have way too many humans on this planet.
And most of them seem to be lacking common sense and compassion and well, brains.
I agree that having children should be a privilege, not a right. Potential parents should have to pass an intelligence test in order to have kids (and pets).
Sorry - this may sound harsh, but the human gene pool is getting muddier and muddier. We need to do something - and fast.
NO to communism
There are plenty children of single parents who are not "screwed up". There are many children of single parents who are far more well-adjusted than many children born and raised by married parents. It is implied in your statement that to become married automatically imbues one with superior parenting skills. This is not true.
If boys "go pay for the fun", what does that mean for the providers of the "fun". They would need contraception.
If girls must remain abstinent, why mustn't boys remain abstinent?
We are all equal under the law. No double standards.
Zombie apocalypse anyone?
Didn't your mommy and daddy tell you it takes a female AND A MALE to make a baby?
Just who is qualified to determine what level of intelligence a person needs to be a parent? Just who is qualified to determine what the privilege of having children means? Thats the problem with Eugenics, you have a bunch of people running around enforcing what qualities they THINK a person should have in order to procreate. That will never lead to a society that is free and fair.
It is true that there are already enough people on this planet but eugenics of any kind is not the answer. Like I said. It is a small leap from sterilizing people for mistreating their children and the turning around and sterilizing people for specific traits that are determined ARBITRARILY.
So, lets say that one day some person in government comes to your door and demands you hand over your son/daughter for sterilization. The reason? Because they think your son/daughter is over weight and they feel it is better that he/she dose not pass that on.. Dose that sound far fetched? To you it might, but there are still people alive that where sterilized simply because they where felt to be mentally incapable or poor or even just had the misfortune of being placed in foster homes.
What gives? Why bring back a system that will oppress the powerless and have arbitrary consequences for all humanity?
Sterilization used in this context would backfire on the families of those that are all for it, just as much as it would backfire on the rest of society.
no to communism-
it takes TWO to tango...idiot...both genders need to be abstinent! Wow humanity these days...
Totally unacceptable with a 3 and 6-year-old. However, my mom did this to us once. But we were 10 and 13, and it was because we wouldn't stop fighting in the back seat of the car. We walked home; not sure it did much to stop the incessant car fights. The 1950s and 1960s were a different time, when parents could do that stuff without being hung from the yardarm. There also weren't a lot of men who trolled the streets looking for little kids to rape and kill, and there sure as heck wasn't birth control - beyond condoms. If there had been, I'm pretty sure most of the kids I grew up with wouldn't have been born, my sibling and I included. I've known a few kids whose exasperated-but-not-mentally-ill/drugged up parents opened the car door and said "walk", just not to their pre-schoolers, though they might've wished they could.
no to communism...
exactly who would administer these tests to determine if someone is allowed to have children
what would constitute a baseline and whose morals would create that baseline
who will get to define love and what actions are the only true actions which produce proof of love
whose to say this woman wasn't happily married to a man and they both decided to have children, but things changed?
how is requiring proof of love and passing a test not communism?
The debate on sterilization or birth control will go on forever, but, any parent who would leave their kids on a @!$%#ing highway should be shot!!
Chaos, panic and disorder ...... my work here is done.
"Sorry. Forced sterilization was done to the "poor and undesirable" from the 30's to the 60s. It is called Eugenics and it is now outlawed and for good reason."
Well...the poor ARE undesirable in any community. If they don't have the means to care for themselves...how the hell do we expect them to care for anyone else? It really is not that hard to wander down any street in America and point out the people that shouldn't be reproducing.
Again, why is one person's, or even a bunch of people's OPINIONS of the poor reason enough to sterilize? Being poor for many is not something that last their whole lives. You can more easily cure poor then you can undo a sterilization. Also, there is no one qualified to determine what level financial ability constitutes the difference between those who should and should not be sterilized.
You say you can clearly see who should not be procreating, but can you see for sure that they will always be in that situation?
WoW! Seems like alot of Folks have the answers to our problems in this World . Please start Fixing by allowing some narrow minded person to fix what they assume your problems are first .
I think this method of punishment is forbidden by the Constitution, under the prohibitions against cruel and unusual punishment. Objectively viewed it is no different than dismemberment.
Let's punish the woman featured in this story in accordance with the law, and leave biblical-type remedies for another day [and an other society].
What is wrong with this mother that she could not leave these precious two children safely at a friends, relatives, shelter or other designated safe spot? If this was impulsive, could she not have called for help at least?
Some people are interested in the answer to that question. I am not one of them.
Let's review. On Monday, she was seen acting strangely enough that someone called paramedics. On Tuesday, she left a 3 - and 6- year old alone near a highway. I suspect she is a drug addict. Maybe meth?
I will never understand how a mother could do that to her own children.
And even though seen acting strangely enough that paramedics were called to check her out, the two young children were left in her care.
And today, people are asking how she could have left them on the side of the highway. Had she killed them, people would have been asking if there had been any sign of her impending "breakdown."
Maybe she is a drug addict.
Maybe she is bipolar.
Maybe she just sucks.
If she had gotten into a fight with her boyfriend, shouldn't he (presumably the children's father) also be held liable for not making sure that the children were safe? And again, where is the father in all of this? Why do the fathers almost always get off scot-free when they desert their children? And even if the boyfriend wasn't the father, if he was having them call him "Dad" (as some do), he should have manned up and protected them.
Elk - I tend to agree where is the father BUT, she could be so sexually promiscuous that she has no clue who the father might be.
She obviously has proven she does not think rationally. I can not guess what horrible things would have happened to those kids left on an interstate.
What? dad's always get off free? What? First of all, we have no idea where dad was BECAUSE THE STORY DID NOT SAY. Dad could have partial visitation and it was not his " every other weekend" to have the children. Dad might be just as mortified right now that mom and her boyfriend put the children in that position. Mom might have took off and not told dad where she was going ( happens a lot ). Dad might have been searching for his kids for the last year for all we know.
You know, many times dad is not around because mom just took off... It is not always because dad just took off on his own, although that certainly dose happen. If in your world mom never dose any wrong, then you live in a fantasy world that is filled will lala land dreams.
There is simply no way to know where dad was, because that was not covered....
There are some very good methods these days for determining paternity. Let the authorities find the father of these children and hold HIM accountable for their health and well-being. Even if he - they, whatever - could not prevent this incident, they can be held accountable for the children's future health and well-being.
Join in, Daddies everywhere, in helping society take care of the children YOU helped bring into this world when you laid down with that woman. Feel free, Daddies, to take up the SLACK for each other, and pay up.
I don't know if it's true that "it takes a village" to raise a child, but I DO KNOW that it takes more than just one adult, which is why it takes TWO PEOPLE to bring them into this world, and TWO PEOPLE to get them through it.
Feel free to join in, Daddies, and make it happen for your own children. And hey, if that's not your bag, then SNIP SNIP, that can be resolved, also.
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I will be happy to take responsibility just as soon as my ex is found and brought to justice for take the children on an 8 year trip from state to state to state to AVOID her responsibility to share custody. I think you will find that a large number of daddies fit my vary same situation.
So, yeah, bring on the punishment for the morally bankrupt mothers out there.. I will be happy to raise my children and NOT interfere with her right to be a parent as well. No matter what she has done, I would never do that.
So, yeah, I'll be glad to be a dad when the cops finally show up at my ex front door and make her do what she agreed to do 8 YEARS ago.
She may have some sort of mental illness. At least those two boys are safe in protective custody. Hopefully, she goes to court and has to get treatment if she wants her kids back.
Sometimes, the Dad isn't around because Mom doesn't want him in her life. Sometimes the Dad isn't around because he took off. We don't know. Social Services will try and locate the Daddy.
Maybe she is just an evil woman.
No amount of drugs or mental illness impair a mother's heart at that level.
She is evil and she should be arrested.
Just a guess, but since the kids were placed in foster care, the father is probably not in the picture - else they'd be with him instead.
Let's review. On Monday, she was seen acting strangely enough that someone called paramedics. On Tuesday, she left a 3 - and 6- year old alone near a highway. I suspect she is a drug addict. Maybe meth?
Spokane Valley resident? Ayup, I'll bet she is.
T Bourlon,It may also be that the Dad or Dad's have no clue to their children's whereabouts.I can only hope that there is a Dad that is responsible and stable so these kids can be reunited with family.
Where is that egg donor at??? I can give her some redneck justice for those kids.
a new number one for...2012 poster girl for legalized abortion...drop her off in death valley and tell her to walk to the nearest phone...
Abortions would just result in children someone would want not being born. She should simply lose custody of any children she may have, and a responsible family on the adoption waiting list can adopt her babies.
Why go to the trouble of taking her to Death Valley, there are a lot of vast open spaces just south in Utah.
Yes, and in a perfect world, a family will want both of them, not separating the brothers and breaking their little hearts at losing each other.
Let's hope their futures are better and more loving and secure than their past has been so far.
Women like this don't have abortions, even when they are available. This has nothing to do with the abortion argument.
Too late for an abortion here but it's not too late to find some piece of crap man to finally be made to PAY UP and help support the child(ren) he helped bring into this world, but hey, if that's not exactly what he had in mind for half his paycheck, then SNIP SNIP, that, too, can be taken care of, and it's outpatient surgery these days, won't hurt but just a li'l bit. Lie still, now.... it'll all be over before you know it! I've got a dust-buster and a butter-knife, I'll be glad to help out those who can't cough up the cash.
Too late for an abortion here but it's not too late to find some piece of crap man to finally be made to PAY UP and help support the child(ren) he helped bring into this world, but hey, if that's not exactly what he had in mind for half his paycheck, then SNIP SNIP, that, too, can be taken care of, and it's outpatient surgery these days, won't hurt but just a li'l bit. Lie still, now.... it'll all be over before you know it! I've got a dust-buster and a butter-knife, I'll be glad to help out those who can't cough up the cash.
Yeah, whatever ! Dad may be a perfectly good upstanding individual, as well. The article doesn't provide enough info to even START guessing. But, I will say this: The legal system all too often places "dad" in a completely powerless position with respect to his own kids, blindly believing that the "best" place for them is ALWAYS with Mom - regardless of whether she is a psychotic nut-case, or other piece of trash human being.
LizaNull - you obviously have some problems with men. Unfortunately for the children involved, there are just as many sh!tty mothers out there. My ex-daughter-in-law comes to mind. She is the one who has money for everything she wants, including her $300 smart phone, but has paid a total of $50 in child support since April. She is the one who disappeared for a year while she was drinking, drugging, sleeping around with anyone she could fine (yes! anyone!) and did not see her child. She is the one who came back into his life, for a while, and disappeared again. My "piece of crap" son is responsible for his well being, for keeping a roof over his head, food on the table and clothes on his back. My "piece of crap" son is responsible for making sure he goes to school everyday, gets to the doctor and dentist when he needs it and has a schedule and structure in his life.
DON'T YOU DARE tar every man with your broad brush. You know NOTHING about a lot of fathers out there. Take your anti-man anger and put it where the sun doesn't shine. YOU KNOW NOTHING.
If you have a sincere interest in becoming a foster parent, please make contact with your local Children's Services office. Training is provided free of charge (but does involve a significant time commitment to complete). What truly matters in cases like this one is the need for a safe, loving, supportive atmosphere for kids until their parents can get their issues resolved or have their parental rights revoked (don't worry... the parents get many chances to regain custody). My daughter has fostered for a number of years, and my grandson is one that she'd fostered... and we couldn't imagine not having him in our lives, he's a beautiful, intelligent, loving, joy of our lives. I can't express how incredibly proud I am of her and her husband in participating in fostering in spite of the difficulties that are part and parcel of fostering. GOOD foster homes are ALWAYS in demand!!!
Being a foster parent is much easier than being a blood relative. If you get tired of the kids; you can just drop them off on the interstate.
The thought has crossed my mind to do that once my boys (5 and 2) are older, but first we'd need to get a bigger place than our little 2 bedroom apartment, and I'd need to see how it would work with hubby and I both working full time.
And if your county has a CASA program, become a volunteer and advocate for kids like these. A CASA volunteer can find out things that DSS doesn't have time to and your report to the judge carries a lot of weight in what happens to these kids.
And if you're a moron; don't forget to spay and neuter your children.
SOME WOMEN, should not have kids, just like this one who has no sense of any kind and leaves her 2 children on the side of the road, i hope she never gets those kids back. because the next time she may kill them and leave them on the side of the road, you can not fix stupid,
SOME MEN should not have kids, either. These children did not arrive by the stork.
The kids probably cannot be adopted out until the father/fathers is/are found and signed off on the paperwork. The whole "father's rights" bit is one of the reasons so many kids are in foster care for so long, as well as other well-meaning relatives who can't or won't take full custody of the kids, but won't let the kids be adopted.
Elk..............letting one's children be adopted substantiates a persons inability at parenting. Most people are not willing to admit that.
If women learned self control, boys will have to find their fun elsewhere or learn to wait to get some.
NO, you are a sexist jackass! Even if women have self control, sex can still happen by force, you egotistical prick!
I think we can all agree that some PEOPLE ( gender agnostic ) should not have children. Your assertion that children spend a long time in faster care because of "fathers rights" is bunk and without merit. Father's rights movements are setup specifically to make sure good men do not lose their children to anyone! Be it a morally bankrupt mother, or a state agency that places kids in foster care WITHOUT even trying to contact the father.
Get used to fathers rights, you'll be hearing a lot more about that subject and much much more concerning treating men like crap for blatantly sexist reasons.
The goal for all society should be to absolutely protect ANY GOOD PARENT'S rights to their children, no matter what the gender of the parent is. If you can disagree with that, then you have your own agenda.
I'm willing to bet that No to communism is really a closeted nymphomaniac. Thou doth protest too much.
no to communism,
men are just as guilty as women when it comes to sex @sshole!!
I totally agree with that. Do you agree that a parent who marries or moves in with a person who has a record of domestic and/or child abuse and demands custody or unsupervised visitations should maybe be reconsidered a "good parent"?
OFC there should be a great amount of consideration to who a parent lives with. If a partner of either of the biological parents is found to be guilty of even minor assault, that parent should be questioned and investigated, and indeed, the children should be protected from any possibility that the new partner in a parents life will harm the children.
There in is a problem though. Most states do not care who the new partner is unless they have ALREADY hurt the children.
You think the Blacks and Spanish (Mexicans and PR's) are bad with this kind of behavior. This White Trash bitch wins the prize.
Racist much!
Where do you read she was white?
Particularly moronic statement.
Along with the prize-winning Father who is nowhere to be found, as usual. But that can be resolved, there are some amazing results with DNA testing these days and the father can be found and made to pay up and (finally) take responsibility for his own child(ren). But hey, if he doesn't want to do that, I've got a dust-buster and a butter-knife and a bottle of whiskey, just a few minutes on his kitchen table and we won't ever have to worry about his abandoning his own child(ren) ever again. Snip Snip, now let's see ya walk like a man, Mister.
NBC omitted her name, and if you read the newspaper where it happened, there is a picture, she is white.
It's Idaho, guys. Of course she is white. How much racist vitriol would there be if it had happened in El Paso, Miami or Chicago? Some of you can dole it out but can't take it.
If it had been a man then it would be jail not the slap on the wrist this bitch got.
N.O.W. will probably defend her too. Her boyfriend, after all, is a patriarchal oppressor.
Poor kids.
Kids need unconditional love from their parents, and they need two people, one male and one female, in a committed relationship (aka marriage) to have balanced discipline.
Now these kids will be shuffled from family to family, wondering why their mother abandoned them, having risked being hit by a car on I-90.
It breaks my heart reading stories like this one.
I agree. Cases like this are the reason we need to ratify Barbara Boxer's Violence Against Children Act. There are no excuses.
No to comm- While I agree that a loving family is the most important thing in a child's life, I don't agree that it has to be one male parent and one female parent. Role models of both sexes are ideal, but they don't have to be parents. Same sex couples, grandparents, aunts, uncles, close family friends, etc. all count. I will say that having two adults in the home during the infant and toddler years is extremely helpful- for the parent(s). My mental health probably would have suffered if I had to deal with those years without the help of hubby!
inmissouri, there is no other combination of parenting, a man and a woman are the best, especially if bound by a marriage contract.
We are kidding ourselves when we think everything else is ok.
and you are willing to use the guvment to force this family unit on all of us? Isn't that like, you know, communism?
If a child is born of a man and a woman, that child's best interest is ALWAYS to be raised by BOTH biological parents. It is not just in a child's best interest, it is that child's RIGHT to have both biological parents.
Now, if we are talking about the death of a biological parent and the remaining biological parent has a same sex partner, then I see NOTHING wrong with that. Two living biological parents who love and care for their child is the optimal situation because that is the only way to see to the rights and well-being of the whole family.
Here's the part NBC left out.
Stupid HO!
I get it crackin like a bad back
I can't find anything on her, except some traffic ticket stuff in Arizona earlier this year. No drug charges or anything like that..........
The woman deserved to be arrested. She endangered the lives of those two little kids. I am amazed at the kids for being able to stay safe. I have a 6 year old and he does not think anything about what's safe and what isn't. This little 6 year old managed to keep himself and his 3 year old brother safe on the side of a major highway! Hopefully they are able to find good homes for these boys. I was adopted when I was 8 and I came from horrible parents. I turned out just fine because of my adoptive parents.
Why would NBC protect the horrible woman by omitting her name?
Possibly because that is also protecting the children's privacy.
I have felt like leaving my kids (12 and 6) at the side of the road to walk the last mile home from fighting in the car. Not 3 and 6. The 12 yr old would get the youngest home. I also live on a country road in a safe community..Not I 90.
I understand the sentiment (though it is unclear why she left them)..but stupid people.
Every parent is ready to kill their kids at one time or another. Mine is 22 years old and I could kill her on a regular basis, but good parents don't do that. Having kids is a lifetime that vacilates between wanting to kill them and wanting to protect/help them. Someone above said a good home is one with a man and a woman. I think any home is good where the parent(s) are loving and responsible be it a man and a woman, a woman and a woman, a man and a man, or even a single parent.
You're right, I agree. I think I might have posted something to that effect, but you're right, it doesn't matter as long as the children are loved, cared-for and PROTECTED!
Blackbelt Marine, I couldn't have said it better myself. :)
I am amazed at the stupid things people post here.
I shouldn't be anymore, but yet, I still am.
Me too. I don't get why people insist, on this site, adding in their own conclusions with 'maybe (s)he' and giving stupid irresponsible people a pass for the disgustingly stupid, egregious and pathetic things they do. Especially if they happen to be female...
Where did this Country go wrong in teaching responsibility? Dr. Spock?
Mom said someone gave her that Dr. Spock book when me and my brother were starting grade-school. She returned it to them after about a week, they asked her what she thought of it, she said she thought it would be good to use on our backsides when we misbehaved other than that, not much.
I never read it, but my mother said it was some of the most ridiculous crap she'd ever read in her life.
Bubba, when we let government feed all those too lazy to work and when we stopped relying on God to know right from wrong.
Dr. Spock's own son committed suicide. Guess he had some issues that were not in the book.
Not his son, his grandson, in 1983...as per wikipedia, if you can rely on their information to be correct...
Contrary to a popular rumor, Spock's son did not commit suicide.[20] Spock had two children: Michael and John. Michael was formerly the director of the Boston Children's Museum and since retired from the museum profession. John is the owner of a construction firm. However, Spock's grandson Peter did commit suicide on December 25, 1983 at the age of 22 by jumping from the roof of the Boston Children's Museum.[21] He had long suffered from schizophrenia.[
As a society we have become selfish, self absorbed, irresponsible and way too wrapped up in what feels good and makes us happy. I'm not a super religious person, don't espouse any particular faith etc.. I do think you can have a certan set of morals, self respect and a sense of personal responsibility. People need to get back to valuing themselves, their bodies, family etc..and it can be done without being religious zealots. We see sex as a recreational activity instead of a gift that we can share with somebody we care about deeply and are committed too. Abortion is relatively cheap and easy to get if we get ourselves in trouble. Welfare is pretty easy to get and is way too often seen as an easy way out particulary for teen and very young moms. Too many of us think we're entitled to do whatever, whenever, with whom ever and never be responsible for the consequences. I think if we want things to be better, people to behave better then we have to start expecting more out of people and stop worrying less about being PC, what everybody else condons etc.. and have some values for ourselves and our kids. Maybe if we did things like this would happen a whole lot less often.
I started reading this thinking that maybe this woman was kidnapped or something...that maybe there was a reason these babies were left at the side of the road in the freezing cold rain of Idaho in October. But no, she just left them there to catch pneumonia out in the cold rain. I'm glad these kids are safe and warm now, and I hope they have a good life from this point forward. I also hope this woman never sees the light of day again.
I was thinking along the same lines as you, Gregorovich. I couldn't imagine why a mother would leave her children other than being forced to. I thought maybe she left them in the car while she went down the road to get gas (although that would still be wrong I thought she was trying to keep them safe) but no she just left them by themselves in the dark cold morning. I would love to get just one minute alone with this woman. She is an awful person.
You can only feel sorry for these innocent children,the mother is probably mentally unstable.We can only hope that they will be adopted and put into foster care or a loving family home.I hope these children can find peace in their lives and grow into well adjusted adults in the future.
Think alcohol had anything to do with this problem? Thank goodness they were found by a responsible adult and not by some pervert. The mother gets a jail timeout and needs to prove to the authorities she is responsible to take care of her kids. I was very fortunate to have a Mother who gave me a sense of responsibility, emphathy, concern for others and how to be adventurous. Hope these kids get all the help and understanding they need and they will be bonded forever as brothers from this Mother's carelessness.
Mom had to leave us some non comfy places a couple of times when she went to get help like after we got stuck in the snow in the car. We will never know the whole story. I'm not ready to judge this woman.
She left them by a highway, not inside the car, first of all. Second, if you have children that young and your car breaks down, you don't leave them alone, you simply put on the emergency flashers and try to wave down passing cars. How can you not judge someone who, on purpose, left a 3-year-old in a place he could be hit by cars?
And people are worried about gays adopting children? I think most of the problems are right there in your own heterosexual backyard.
I agree, Mike. I know many homosexual couples who would be wonderful parents to these two little boys. Heterosexual people don't always make the best parents and this clearly is proof positive.
She was apparently overwhelmed by bad decisions she had made previously; those situations are usually antagonized by worthless friends and/or family. I don't see NASA or JPL in her future, or those two little boys either. I didn't see a mention of "father or husband" so she was seemilgly "left holding the babies" by some fine, upstanding young man (piece of $h!t). It takes the responsibility of 2 adults to handle even 1 child properly. To all of you whom spout "American values" during this incredibly elongated election cycle, where are your values now? An AMERICAN spreads his shoulders to carry additional load, a communist cries because his money is being used by the governementfor things his hollow head cannot understand.
Good post - agreed. However it would be interesting to know if both those kids are from the same father. If they aren't it kinds shoots holes in this thinking. It's one thing to be victimized by someone who turns out to be a piece of S H I T father (and yes we as Americans should share that burden), it's quite another to have 3 or 4 kids by a trail of losers.
Oh, and sorry - there is NO excuse leaving a 3 and 6 year old on the side of the fwy - i don't care how "overwhelmed" she was - they could have easily been killed. I wouldn't leave my dog alone let alone my kids give me a break.
I'm overwhelmed by your stupid, enabling post. There is NO justification for what this woman did.
Chris is correct. No excuses for leaving tiny children alone, never-mind next to a highway.
BAD MOMMY. BAD BAD MOMMY! DO NOT PASS GO. DO NOT COLLECT ANYTHING. GO DIRECTLY TO JAIL. Let's see how 'overwhelmed' you become in the slam. Hope someday yer kids leave you in a Nursing home.
TIME TO BURN.
I have a sneaking suspicion that she left her children to go hooker about to make money and score drugs. What other possible scenario could it be?
So... The guy's fault, right?
Don't leave precious children by the side of the road, there is nothing that a 3 and 6 year old can be guilty of to deserve this. My heart aches for these poor kids abandoned by the person they love and look to for protection, what can they possibly do to take care of themselves. Thank God someone decent found them before someone else. I have 3 kids and this just makes me sick.
Another mother who does not care what happens to her children.
Sounds like the father or fathers is/are not around, either. Pretty sad.
Yeah, it's pretty sad. Dad must have been left in another state by the mom who decided all by herself that he should not know where his kids are.
See how easy it is to vilify someone without knowing the facts? The story dose not say where dad is one way or the other, but my scenario is a likely as yours.
WHY is it that we have to have a license to own a dog but anyone can have children?
Not a good analogy. Anyone can get a dog license. You just have to pay $10 for one at the town hall where I live and show proof of a rabies vaccination. And if your dog is spayed/neutered it only costs $5.
The thing is, if you abuse your dog, it will get taken away. Just like your kids. So all in all, it's the same thing.
Funny but true story: My dad use to threaten my brother and I: "Don't make me pull over this car." I guess this mom meant business!
What a piece of s**t mom! I hope the courts never give her back her children and they find a home with a family who actually loves them. Unfortunately, that is seldom the case. They usually end up right back in the care of the same people who abused/abandoned them in the first place. How sad. :(