I guess you do not think that he is entitled to a fair trial, you think he should just be executed. Thankfully you are not the one making the decisions. I for one am glad that he will get a trial. For one thing, there are serious questions about his mental competency both now and at the time of the shootings. Second, there are some questions about whether he was responsible for all of the shootings since there was brass found at the scene from a different caliber weapon than the ones US military carries (see @Perry-2713557's comment below). The 7.62 caliber brass that was found is consistent with old AK-47s that many of the insurgents and Taliban use. I am not saying that I think that Bales is completely innocent, but I think there are questions that need to be answered and a trial will ensure that this happens.

DAVE SHARPE

Dude is a serial killer, what is to discuss.

Perhaps the difference between a serial killer and a mass murderer?

Hopefully we will see justice done in that case. Killing brown people over there is just as bad as killing white people here.

He is hardly a serial killer. That's a misdiagnosis if I ever heard one. He is a mass murderer. The motive is obvious. Most serial killers have no motive but the gratification of killing. Seargent Bales had been sent on 3 tours of duty. He had personally been injured by an IED. Immediately before his rampage he saw one of his colleagues have his leg blown off. He faced an enemy who cynically hid among civilians and made no attempt to honor the code of conduct to avoid drawing fire onto civilian targets. And ironically the civilians give shelter to the Taliban among them.

Bales snapped after seeing another life altering injury, and took it upon himself to resolve the problem as he saw it. But like William Calley before him, he likely killed the wrong people.

We are not fighting a people, we are fighting a mental disorder by doctrine. But it was Bales and the other American soldiers who are the ones risking their lives in the combat. Perhaps we need to give them more aggressive tools, or the brain rabies that infects our enemies will overtake us.

Bales broke the rules of conduct and engagement. He disobeyed orders and deliberately killed civilians. Now he must face a military tribunal. I am certain this case and the verdict will weigh heavy on the minds of the court. But a well thought out ruling will certainly result.

Just out of curiosity, how many people here who would recommend mercy for Sgt. Bales, have also called for swift and immediate "justice" for James Holmes?

Mental illness is mental illness. The JAG system is designed to take into mitigating factors. It's also going to take into account aggrevating factors. Even if the death penalty is imposed, higher command will have the authority to decrease the penalty.

Shame on you, NBC News reporter. Twice in this article, you used the phrase "decorated US soldier", but you never tell us which ribbons he has received.

Moreover, you've obviously never been in the military. **EVERY** soldier is decorated (there's a ribbon simply for years in service).

Please stop trying to manipulate the emotions of your readers and just report the news. Thank you.

"U.S. Army Staff Sergeant Robert Bales, a decorated veteran of four combat tours in Iraq and Afghanistan, is accused of walking off his base under cover of darkness and opening fire on civilians in their homes in at least two villages."

Without knowing much history of Iraq and Afghanistan, Bush and co (many Democrats supported him too) sent these poor soldiers to wars at the same time.

These places are toughest battle zones on earth.

Why have not they sent their children and relations to these wars first?

If Sgt Robert Bales is a serial killer, what do you call Bush, Chenny and co?

Some of them may not be able to locate those nations on the map.

Just because one becomes a soldier, he/she is guilty.

If he/she becomes a politician and sends soldiers to killing fields, then one is not accountable!

Indigo-Rage....The Evil Tessmacher.....good post....you summed up what almost all of us feel and no one has the balls to say publicly.

A serial killer? Really? How about maybe just maybe 4 tours is 3 tours too many for any man? This is the first time we have kept sending soldiers back in for multiple tours.

Evil... And you think their may be a reason for the lack of respect? Respect is something earned through your actions, not something that is given freely. Good thing you are not in charge.

how much combat have you seen ? bet u never served your country at all, just another free rider

ur an @!$%#, I bet you never served your country , just another free rider

dave sharpe is a coward and loser

remember what we said about nam (kill them all and let god sort them out) lololol

wtf sommie pukes

"Balls?" said the Queen, "If I had two, I'd be king."

@Allen: Always glad to say what others fear to.

Tessmacher, Indigo, and Allen- right on guys- somebody has to tell the truth.

Somebody should also give Panetta a rifle, drop him into the Korengall, and then he can see if he can tell the enemy from the civilians. If he lives long enough - can't shoot until shot at.

Anybody ever hear of Vietnam? They all looked the same.

This country never learns. My kids in Kandahar right now, and has 2 months to go. He can't wait.

Indigo-Rage

"Balls?" said the Queen, "If I had two, I'd be king."

And the King laughed, because he had to.

The reason Obama would not provide security
before the 9/11 attack in Libya or send aid to our valiant Americans is because
he proclaimed "The War on Terror is over!" Apparently he is the only
idiot who believes this garbage. This is also why our security forces were not
allowed to carry live ammo, the right of self defense. Obama forced the removal of razor wire at our
consulate. He never wants to upset and make it difficult for the terrorist. After
the murders of four Americans, Obama lied" saying it was a spontaneous
combustion of our people"! He would not admit it was another Islamic
terrorist attack, since he thinks Muslims like himself are all peace loving and
the "War on Terror is Over!' He said it, so it must be true? Obama lives
in an alternate Islamic reality.

Our
ambassador in Libya begged for hours for our president to save him and the
other Americans. Hours went by and then the ambassador was caught, tortured,
raped, murdered and his lifeless body was dragged through the streets. Obama
just rolled over and went back to sleep. Hillary went back to her girlfriend,
Bill to the intern.

Obama thinks we were at fault in Benhgazigate. He
deems America as always guilty to other countries and peoples. That is why he
made the lying excuse of a video. Impeach, Today! Mr. Obama, please go on
another Muslim apology tour!

Evil Tessmacher said:

They brought this on themselves. We should give it to them.

And explain to me how exactly, did the children who were gunned down 'bring this on themselves'? They didn't ask to be born in a Muslim country; they didn't get to choose who their parents were or where they would be born; they may not even be related to anyone who has personally carried weapons against the US. Are you one of those who thinks the sins of the fathers should be visited upon the children?

It's what you do that matters, not whose name you do it in. Those advocating killing all Westerners because they don't like our policies are the same as those who advocate killing all Muslims because they call God by a different name--there is no difference between you two except how old your religion is (and therefore, where your religion is in its evolution.)

You don't blame all birds for the one that pooped on your car!

Now, that being said--from what I heard, he has serious mental issues, was also reportedly drunk the night of the tragedy, and none of that helps his case. I will not pass judgement--that's for the court martial to find under the UCMJ.

Nazarite said;

Our ambassador in Libya begged for hours for our president to save him and the other Americans. Hours went by and then the ambassador was caught, tortured, raped, murdered and his lifeless body was dragged through the streets.

According to what I heard, Ambassador Stevens and diplomatic personnel in Libya were asking for an extension for the US Security Support Team, headed by Lt. Colonel Andrew Wood, to continue in Tripoli after their second deployment extension was scheduled to end in June (the SST had already been there one deployment + 18 extra months, the diplomatic party were asking for another 18 month extension):

Asked for comment to the memo and Wood's comments, a spokesman for the House Oversight Committee told ABC News: "Diplomats working in Libya viewed security provided by highly trained Americans as critical to their safety and mission. The Oversight Committee's investigation continues to seek answers about why - even as threats against Americans increased - senior State Department officials erroneously decided such security was no longer needed."

In February, the embassy reported to the State Department that the "security environment in Tripoli remains uncertain and unstable. Although there has been a marked decrease in the number of militia checkpoints around Tripoli, the Transitional National Council (TNC) has not yet succeeded in demobilizing the multiple militias or bringing them into a centralized command and control structure. There continues to be large numbers of weapons throughout Tripoli, with gunfire heard throughout the city on a daily basis."

The State Department pushed the American diplomats to develop plans to transition its security staffing to one that incorporated more locally based assets, but its ability to do so was "severely limited by a number of factors," the February memo states, including inconsistent support from the Libyan government, no reliable "armed, uniformed host government security at our residential and office compounds," no "real progress on the policy framework required to support a transition to an armed locally engaged body guard force," silence from the Libyan Minister of Interior when it came to formal U.S. "requests for firearms licenses, training sites, or static, host nation security."

The request concludes: "Given the unstable security environment, projected staffing increases, lack of physical and technical security upgrades in place and continued high volume of VIP visits, Embassy Tripoli requests an extension" of the Security Support Team for four months, which "will allow us to implement the security transition plans recommended by the Department. A loss of SST now would severely and negatively impact our ability to achieve the Department's policy and management objectives at this critical time in Libya's transition."

Investigators are exploring whether anyone at the State Department told the Embassy specifically not to request another extension.

So yes, based on this one could say that Ambassador Stevens' diplomatic party asked for more protection, but he asked it from the State Department--his boss--to pass on to the President.

One would, however, be wrong in saying that President Obama ignored it--from the general tenor of the above-quoted report, it seems that he was never given the chance since senior State Department officials did not pass on the request from the diplomats to the administration, and it appears to be under question whether someone ORDERED the diplomatic team NOT to request the SST from the President.

Am I condoning what happened? No. it was an appalling tragedy all the way around, an the blame should rest on whoever it was who made the original decision NOT to extend the SST 's deployment or substitute another SST team for the departing one. But blame can also be laid at the Libyans' door, for failure to adequately protect our embassy; and for our own lack of funding. It was a systemic failure that contributed to the deaths of four people who did not have to die.

One other thing; Ambassador Stevens was not 'raped, tortured and dragged through the streets.' He died of smoke inhalation in a Benghazi hospital. And in case you missed it, the people of Benghazi were so shocked and angry that they rose up a week later and stormed the compound in which the militants responsible were hiding and drove the militants out of the city. Thirty of these citizens died in the process.

And by the way--what does this have to do with Staff Sergeant Bales?

nazariteThe reason Obama would not provide securitybefore the 9/11 attack in Libya or send aid to our valiant Americans is because he proclaimed "The War on Terror is over!"

Pure bull@!$%#. He never said any such thing.

"Somebody should also give Panetta a rifle, drop him into the Korengall, and then he can see if he can tell the enemy from the civilians. If he lives long enough - can't shoot until shot at."

Here is one clue that might help him: little girls who are asleep in their home are civilians. You should not leave your base at night in violation of orders and kill them.

Perhaps the poor guy might've had a PTSD episode, where he didn't quite know what he was doing, reacting to something he was remembering. In which case, he's neither mass murderer nor serial killer, at least intentionally.

4 combat tours! He may have done it but he sure as hell isn't guilty. Put the guy that sent him on that last tour on trial.

Only an idiot believes the object of war is to KILL the enemy. With dust on your boots, you learn otherwise.

minmn....I suppose your answer is to trot over there with a King James Version under your arm and "embrace' their fears and 'change them' .....what a load.........

To kill women and children? Is that what you believe?

Allen, that was a pretty low intelligence response. The object of war is to defeat the enemy. Killing is just part of it, but not always necessary. In a war of ideas, no matter how many you kill the ideas live on. Change the ideas and you change the war. I've never carried a bible, not even in combat, and yes, I have the dust on my boots. In every war we've fought and won, we've done so by defeating the oppositions support for the effort. We lost in Viet Nam, because we lost the public support for the effort.

These autrocities happen in every war. I'm stunned people are supprised by this. This is what combat does, not only to our young men and women, but to the young men and women who fight in opposition as well.

I still have the dust on my boots. If you know the cause of war, you can win it without battle. Mother Theresa was no slouch, to quote her, "If you want peace, you don't talk to your friends, you talk to your enemies".

Terry, same low intelligence school as Allen? Who said anything about letting them come over here. Do we need to be overthere?

Lets try rational thinking before responding this time. I'll listen.

@minmn

Only an idiot believes the object of war is to KILL the enemy. With dust on your boots, you learn otherwise.

"You are on the field of battle for one reason, and one reason only: To kill the enemy as efficiently and quickly as possible. If you are not there for that purpose, you have no business on the field of battle" - George S. Patton, Jr.

Sorry, but I'll take his word over yours.

Evil,

You make my case form me. Patton was a idiot. Eisenhower took the opposite position.

"Though force can protect in emergency, only justice, fairness, consideration and cooperation can finally lead us to the dawn of peace". General Dwight D Eisenhower Supereme Commander, Allied Forces, NATO and President of the United States of America

I'll take Eisenhowers words over Pattons and yours. And we are not talking about battle, we are talking about war. Two completely different events.

The object of war is to win, at any cost, and in any manner. Eisenhower may have emphasized diplomacy and post conflict reconciliation, he kept General Patton in command, pain it the butt that he was, because Patten understood that war means fighting, and fighting means killing.

It has always been so.

It always will be.

Most unjust trial of one, who has been under constant fear of beeing blown up by anyone in Iraq and Afghanistan. One can never say: who is a friend and who is a foe.

In Afghanistan, Iraq and other ME war zones, for backstabbing and looting the US economic and military aid there are rewards.

In Afghanistan, Pakis have backstabbed the US and NATO forces big time. Half of NATO forces deaths are due to ungrateful and backstabbing Pakis.

When the NATO forces were entering Kandahar in 2001, Pakis airlifted key al-Qaida, Taliban, ISI and others militants by back door from Kandahar.

This includes Mullah Omar, Osama and many including Paki Haqqani militant network leaders.

Hope people remember about Pakis sheltering Osama.

These Paki Islamic religious Nazis don't bother about their people and they are into reckless killing games in the name of jihad.

The backstabbing and looting criminal Gen Mush is living royally in UK and his son is in the US.

Most of the top Paki backstabbers and criminals and Karzai and co will live royally in UK, US or some western nations when they are kicked out!

What a justice!

Jonathan, hindsight is 20/20, but Bush II should never have committed us to a war not even the tactics of the USSR could win. It was the same in Vietnam when the French left while North Vietnam was being backed and advised by the former USSR. Why is we always get involved in someone else's wars? Dubya and Cheney should be brought to justice by the World Court for their actions, IMHO. Any president who committs our troops should committ their young too. I bet we would have fewer wars of nonsense.

Where is this MSM/MSNBC? http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/11/05/Proof-Obama-Refused-to-Call-Benghazi-Terror-CBS-Covered-Up

@Perry

So you think A) that the Taliban did it and B) that Bales isn't entirely innocent. I would absolutely love to know how you think both of these things are true.

And no doubt it was spontaneous precipitated by a video ? Oh wait. We already used that.

If he is guilty send him to the death chamber or firing squad of his peers. Let's put this mass murderer to rest so he is not turned out on the public. The military produces killers so they should deal with them like any other mass murderer in the public arena if found guilty.

Sgt Robert Bales at most deserves reprimand and honorable discharge.

Imagine our living under constant fear of being killed for four years.

Iraq and Afghanistan are the worst backstabbing and ungrateful killing fields.

It was most foolish to open two war fronts in the toughest battle zones at the same time!

Please don't demand too much of a price in the name of patriotism and a soldier!

Jonathan - "Imagine our living under constant fear of being killed for four years." Interesting comment - our military has not served tours of duty in combat of multiple years for a long time. THe current military practice is a tour in a combat zone of 6- 18 months and than a rotation home for a long period of time. I would suggest that if you want to talk about the stress of multiple combat years you talk to your father or grandfather about his experience in WWII - in some cases the only time spent stateside was while recuperating from wounds, the Army and Marines (in combat units) were either in combat or training for combat with no R&R trips, etc.

But your comment "It was most foolish to open two war fronts in the toughes battle zones at the same time." is pretty much right on specially since the war in Iraq was our choice, and not thrust upon us by an attack.

@Intellect-1949393:
The military does NOT produce killers. The military integrates volunteers from this nation that heeded the call to be part of the 1% who ensure the rights of the 99% are protected. The military produces disciplined fighting men and women that are highly trained at deterring, delaying, dissuading, and if necessary dispatching this nation's adversaries so that people like you can maintain your right to free speech and spew the @!$%# you write.

What you fail to recognize is that this is an all-volunteer force that accepts all walks of life from this great nation from every economic status and from every demographic. They are your brothers, cousins, friends, and even parents that sought the opportunity to make a difference in this @!$%#ed up world we live in. The military follows strict guidance on the selection criteria to ensure that all volunteers that raise their right hand and swear an oath of allegiance to protect and defend the Constitution will do so faithfully. Unfortunately, there is only so much the military can do with modern science to screen those that might fall short of what their levels of expectation is. THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A BELL CURVE AS TO THE MAKE UP OF THIS NATION'S FIGHTING FORCE.

The beautiful thing is even though the military member is stripped down to the very core and built back up to what a modern military person should be, they are also enabled to make their own decisions. They are not robots. They are provided rules, regulations, guidance to know the difference between right and wrong. If they didn't have that, you would be seeing a lot of massacres and other crimes occurring on a daily basis. But as individuals you are entitled to making your own decisions in life. HE had a choice as to what to do that evening. HE apparently chose poorly.

This individual allegedly committed a crime. It will be analyzed for years to come even after his carcass is planted in the ground with the objective to learn why he did what they allege he did. His service record, his medical record, his personal background will all be taken into account to determine why he did what they say he did. But to say the military produces killers is not factual. Until you put a weapon in your hand and pull that trigger to extinguish the life of another human being you will never know what it feels like.

As a former military member, I can say I am not a killer. I am a man that did what I was ordered to do while following specific rules of engagement in a military situation. Get real; wartime environments are not for the squeamish and when fire is coming in your direction you move with a sense of purpose and act on your training to ensure you can come home alive to be with your loved ones once again so you can be human again. It does change you. It does affect how you live afterwards. This individual will have to consider his actions for the remaining days of his life, but he is but one individual and you lumping his actions with the rest of us does a disservice to the men and women that even now stand in harm's way at all four corners of this planet to protect your sorry ass.

So, on behalf of those before me and those that replaced me, your welcome and @!$%# you very much.

Hollykb: In 9/11, Saudis, Pakis and UAE (funding) had a major role!

Instead of attacking them, they became allies on "war on terror."

Where did Iraq and Afghanistan come in the picture for 9/11?

Should we say: Bush and co did not know who were behind 9/11!

@Intellect-1949393.....this is war numb nuts....where they shoot back...hello????

Well all I am reading are the people that when the shooting starts these people will be hiding in their basements pissing in their pants and these regheads will come in and butcher these infadiels for the pleasure if their religion and put your head in a pole and rejoice for their alla fkuall

[0.o], I am from the Vietnam era where there was not a volunteer military. After living on the edge for 12 months of practically anything goes a person does develop an predatorory persona. In fact many of my friends could not come down from their high from living on the edge of the envelope. Today most are dead and not from combat inflicted wounds but psychological wounds from the Nam. None of us came back whole nor were we whole while in the jungle either.

Today's military is different as you have done a good job of describing it. There is a difference between volunteering versus being used as cannon fodder for the benefit of a Congressman's son. So if you have not been in the military in that era you do not understand being drafted (conscripted) to fight war for profits and a perceived enemy.

By the way they do make killers of you since your entire goal in combat is to survive at any cost. That is what makes us who we are, the fight or flight, and the fight is nurtured once you have been stripped down to be built up by your DI's. Your rhetoric does not fly with me, been there done that. There is a killer in all of us as we are born predators.

I would suggest that if you want to talk about the stress of multiple combat years you talk to your father or grandfather about his experience in WWII - in some cases the only time spent stateside was while recuperating from wounds, the Army and Marines (in combat units) were either in combat or training for combat with no R&R trips, etc

Yeah, because there were no massacres at all in WWII...

All soldiers were well behaved, good-natured, and every platoon had a redneck guy from Alabama, a tough guy from Brooklyn (or the Bronx), a clean cut guy from Iowa, and a spunky quirky kind of guy from [Insert Pacific Coast State here]...

...everything went swimmingly. There were no civilian casualties and no PTSD. The only one killed in the entire war was Adolf Hitler and the German POW that double crossed Tom Hanks after he let him go...

WWII is the model for every war. So if someone is suffering from PTSD in Afghanistan they need to talk to a D-Day veteran because, again, everything went A-OK in WWII.

That must be the difference between a couple of generations, Intellect-1949393...You evidently didn't get the memo; sooner or later you have to come home and no doubt they barely supported your generation with that endeavor. That is a lessons learned that this country tends to forget. Having said that, if you feel that after all this time you are still a 'killer' SEEK MENTAL HELP.

I learned to survive combat by not being a cooperating target; speed is life; hesitation kills. I am sure you learned that too.

Everything I learned while being in the military I adapted to a civilian way of life and continue to hone those skills in a manner that has made me successful many years since. As I said before, all walks of life come into the military and when they all leave the military, all walks of life become veterans. Not everyone is going to adapt the same way and not everyone is going to be successful. But if you think that my sole purpose in life was to kill because I am born a killer you are dead wrong. This nation is built upon rules and one of those rules is not to kill. I am here in America now and the only way I am going to take someone's life is if they mean ill-will towards me and I will defend myself up to and including deadly force. That is not killing; that is self-defense. You should know the difference and you should know what the ROE was when you were forward. You can call it rhetoric all you want; you had your war and I had mine; we can agree to disagree but I will weep for you and the tormented past you evidently still suffer from. After you go through combat, no one is there to strip you down and build you back up; you do that by talking to your comrades, your brothers, and your priest.

Seek help, dude; clearly you didn't get the memo...

Travis-

Come on, man- you are stereotyping the War when you do that! LOL!

Okay, at least I chuckled out loud...

:-)

Intellect-1949393-
PS: There was a volunteer military force during the Vietnam Era; My father volunteered for military service and did three tours in Vietnam so that his other two brothers wouldn't have to...Cheers, buddy!

[0.o], yes there was but more won the lottery than volunteered. I am not trying get in a pissing contest with you, but you must realize their are more people in this world than you and your opinion.

As for adapting I am fine. Went to college earned BS and post grad degrees in the physical sciences and living a great life. Chidren and college educated, well employed and there are grandchildren. You jump quickly to conclusions young man.

As for volunteering I had a cousin who joined in 1950 during the Korean War, served a tour there and then served as an advisor in Vietnam and then three tours as a LRP. A few Banana Wars after sneeking Sally through the alley. Retired as a Sargeant Major. So what is your point?

My point is I will respectfully disagree with your original notion that the military produces killers. Thank you for your service when it was your time, but don't lump the rest of us that came back with some semblance of sanity back with the likes of a couple of misguided members of this nation's military. The pissing contest is over and should you reserve your original opinion then I will come back with my original parting statement, Sir.

Travis from Soviet occcupied whatever

In WW2 the average GI spent 40 days in combat per year. 33% of them were volunteers. In Viet Nam the average was 240 days of combat per year. 66% of the men that actually served in Viet Nam were volunteers. In Iraq and Afghanistan, every one of them is a volunteer and I don't like to think of how many days a year they spend under fire. If you haven't worn the boots, don't diss the people who have.

I totally agree. There isn't a single sane reason why we should still be there. The defense contractors lining the pockets of our politicians is not a sane reason. Being a security force for the Karzai Drug Cartel is not a sane reason. Continuing what Dubya started is not a sane reason. When we come to our senses and finally leave, the Taliban will take control and torch all the poppy fields and kill all the drug dealers. Then, Pakistan won't be able to extort us for billions more.

Those people HATE us. Anything to do with us and our religions. They came over and bombed/attacked us and our allies so we invaded or what we called invading.

What got me was after the 'invasion', we saw bombing and such on tv all over the news. Three weeks later, we were spending our own money to rebuild the same crap we blew up. W.T.F?! What a waste of $, lives, and resources we could have been using to help our own citizens! And for what?? Not a dang thing to show for it but a bunch of debt and we are still getting firebombs thrown at our soldiers.

Why destroy the place if we are just gonna put it back better than it was before? Yeah, we REALLY showed them! ugh. Look, the middle east has some of the oldest cultures on Earth. They've been told what to do by a monarch since the times of Jesus, and a bunch of americans who they don't like anyway isn't going to change that, if that is how they choose to live.

We just need to leave them alone. American imperialism in the middle east is why they hate us in the first place. Or part of it anyway. I guess Bush/Obama/anyone who thinks we have a right to be over there has never heard of the Monroe Doctrine. It needs to be amended to include the whole planet, seriously

I fully agree!

Unfortunately, some never learn!

Without knowing ABC of history of places, cultures, religions, many start jumping on: oil, killing children and women, human rights, chemical weapons, WMDs, try democracy and so on and on!

When you read on Syria and Iran, just read the reactions and comments of some!

Send drones; drop bombs; spend special forces; blow up Assad's palace; and so on and on!

For a change, those who jump, sing and dance should go to those places instead of poor Sgt Robert Bales!

Well what do you expect when we elect an undereducated businessman as President? Wonder how much history one has to take to get a business degree from an Ivy League School? Or any school for that matter. I suspect I know more history than any business MBA and my Bachelors is in Biology (I know I know more scince thant hey do)

Holly- are you talking about Bush or Obama? I'm assuming Bush.

Obama has less creds than Bush did --community organizer? --there's prep for the Presidency!

WHile Obama did not serve in the military Bush deserted.

Were those the lies told during the Clinton administration? Maybe Bill & Al should be in jail for spreading the lies.

Thank you! What galls me is the way he is playing the system. Cold shave the SOB NOW and get on with his trial.

Texas grace

Cold shaving is simply too...too temporary. I recommend a treat of chocolate cake or pudding a la Ex-Lax that would leave him marinating in a pool of hershey squirts in his diaper. For some reason, the thought of him at his court-martial with a diaper rash makes me smile.

This delay IS irritating, but I think that it is to avoid retaliation overseas. Mustn't upset the muslim extremists, you know. Plus, they don't want to make him a poster boy or martyr. He would make great propaganda for them.

If we're going to be smart about it, he should be tried, sentenced and packed away in a cell before it is announced to the public. That will rob his side of any chance of trying to use him for a propaganda campaign.

Thank you too. There is a lot more to this story we are not hearing. I seriously hope he gets a fair trial.

There is a lot more to this story for sure. the fact of the matter is the millions that we will, if not have paid to the surviving family members. Our government always pays first and than addresses the issue with the soldier or group involved.

He deserves and has earned by his service a fair and public trial. I say public not th humiliate him or his family but to prevent the military brass from railroading him to appease the Afghan government. MyLai was a white wash and this can degenerate into one too if true minded Americans dont watch out. I am not syaing one way whether he is guilty or innocnet - I have no idea of all the facts, but as one who hopes she is a fair mindedperson I want to see it all laid out including answering was he fit for combat service before his final deployment.

No. He is our soldier. He is what we made him to be. He is our citizen, so he has to be tried under OUR laws.

Get bent

WOW, and just who are you again? someone who leans towards the Muslims and all their so called goodness? Somehow, you sound an awful lot like you aren't in or from the US and as such have zero knowledge of our military justice system let alone the judicial system here. So here's what I suggest: Until or unless you actually find your way here and are able to complete the immigration paperwork and be here for that trial? Keep your lips from flappin', because commentary such as yours is seemingly, lacking.

Thank you Blue_Mule55. Isis2011 is probably 'not from around here'.

Do I care about BinLaden's mental state? - NO

Do I care about if he was a 'caring family man' (lol) - NO

Any other questions?

Ohh - Am I glad that he (binladen) is dead? - YES

Sgt Bales served FOUR tours which enabled YOU to say that - just so you know. I really hope that he gets a fair trial from the military tribunal.

"Sgt Bales served FOUR tours which enabled YOU to say that - just so you know. I really hope that he gets a fair trial from the military tribunal."

I really don't understand the logic behind this statement. My ability to criticize Sgt. Bales has nothing-- absolutely nothing-- to do with him going over to Afghanistan.

Lev: Probably because I was not replying to anything you said; I was replying to isis2011.

If you wrote that in a Quatrain I might believe it.

Good post. We had a saying, "Fighting for Peace is like F-ing for Virginity".

You neeed to go back where you came from.

What an appropriate response to the deaths of little children in their homes! What a wonderful person you are!

It should be the Senate Republicans in charge of Security for denieng requested security. The facts are there but the investigation is not complete yet. Get a Grip and know facts before going to an orgy with a limp one.

6dogs, first the US Senate is headed up by democrats and not republicans. Second, and most important, is that the congress passes a budget, but does not specify how an administration department spends that money. If you chose to spend that money on things other than security, it is on the State Department and not congress.

So filled with hate you can't stay on topic? This has nothing to do with Benghazi or President Obama. (The office deserves resepect, even if you don't respect the person).

spudson

A) Benghazi isn't the subject here.

B) President Obama isn't the subject either.

C) If you want to campaign for your candidate go knock on some doors. This thread has nothing to do presidential politics, the alleged errors of President Obama, or your fantasy arrest scenario

In fact, your entire post is off subject and last minute political campaigning FOR your candidate by crapping on President Obama. Newsvine should inspect your posts to see if you jump from thread to thread doing the same thing you did here, and cancel your membership if they can see that you are campaigning.

As for myself, I reported you as spam. I came to this thread for opinions on this particular subject, not to see yet another republicon smear n' fear attack on President Obama. I was tired of them 4 years ago.

Wow, God bless America, and spudson, you both are so stupid, that you don't know your'e stupid!

"Why then are the victims of Major Hassan waiting for a trial to begin THREE YEARS after their loved ones were murdered by a man screaming "Allah Akbar" at Ft. Hood Texas?"

Oh, gee, I don't know. Maybe it's because Hassan's lawyers have filed motions asking for more time while Bales' lawyers haven't. Well either that or Barack Obama personally called up the judges and ordered them to immediately schedule Bales' trial and delay Hassan's. Yeah, that makes a whole lot of sense...

By the way, I really don't get why you folks are so angry about the standard procedural delays in Hassan's trial. Do you think he's out playing golf every day or something?

So do you make excuses for Afghans when they become terrorists? Just curious, as they have lived in this war environment much longer than any U.S. soldier. Do they also get a pass to be baby killers? Anyone who murders a child should be killed.

Your suggestion that I advocate his actions is ridiculous and frankly ignorant. No, I do not think that our soldiers should get a pass to kill civilians any more than civilians should get a pass to set up road side bombs to kill our soldiers.

However, it happens because human beings are just that: Human. Stress affects people differently and some succumb to its effects worse than others. If you'd been actually reading/comprehending the post you'd see the real point was to say that we have no more business being there in this situation or it is inevitable more travesties like these may occur.

Just curious, your online name is "CourageLovepeaceLive" yet you contradict yourself wanting this man killed. Just sayin'.