How exactly is she illegal, I don't think that's part of the issue at all!

Really, oh look she’s Hispanic and went to the emergency room that must make her illegal, I’m sorry but you do know that TX has an extremely high number of uninsured that are American citizens. Bigotry at its finest.

"emergency room visit, thats were the free healthcare is..that makes her an illegal". sorry to have to say, but you must be a total idiot. I've heard some pretty stupid things in my life. This one has to rank high up there.

This article mentions nothing about how she paid her emergency room visit, and her legal status is never discussed. Yes, mike-2598123, in Texas, far away from the rock you are living under, there are a lot of Mexican-Americans with, you guessed it! Hispanic names and Hispanic looking features! Whoa! That must make them Mexican!

Again, what an idiot.

mike-2598123

emergency room visit, thats were the free healthcare is..that makes her an illegal and they need to throw her ass in prison for years...

this women is un stable why ? how many 35 yr women (adult) "we were just discussing personal problems in there lifes" with a 14 yr (child)...she needs to be branded a pedophile, do time then deport her back to mexico !!!!!!!

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I am a Conservative politically(for religious and other personal reasons), however, even I think your post was out of line Mike! What do you mean "deport her back to Mexico?" How do you know she wasn't born here? I am black, white, and Mexican(but LOOK primarily Mexican)and I would be highly OFFENDED at someone telling me to go back to Mexico or to "deport me"(I wasn't born in Mexico and it's been at least 3 generations since anyone in my family has. And with the exception of a few Spanish classes I took back in H.S., I don't even speak it!). Though I do agree she should be charged as a Pedophile as I find the whole thing revolting and sick, her being Mexican(IF she even is. Btw, not every Hispanic is Mexican! She can also be something else and married to a Mexican/Hispanic man.) has NOTHING to do with this. Again, "looking" Mexican or Hispanic or having a last name of those origins, doesn't mean they were born there(or even that they are what you assume them to be)!

Please stop assuming things and stick to the real topic here, which is a GROWN, MARRIED woman who is having sex with(and perhaps pregnant by)a CHILD!

But....but....but.....

On the picket line with a poster which says: "It is for the children".

14-year olds don't get women pregnant; women get themselves pregnant.

I heard the 14 yr old boy died from a 'high fiving" incident.

Amanda Sotelo, a resident of Von Ormy, was booked into a Bexar County jail on Nov. 1 on a charge of indecency with a child, Louis J. Antu, spokesman with the Bexar County Sheriff’s Office, told NBC News.

Am I the only one that thinks someone was drunk while typing the above paragraph?

Mike, you need to go back to school. For one "lifes" is not a word. For another the article didn't speak at all about where she is from or whether or not she is a citizen, that is not what this article is about. Just because she may be hispanic doesn't make her illegal.

There is a title for people like this woman they are called pedifiliacs if she were a man she would be facing life in prison for raping a child but because she is a woman she will probably do 2 years and may not even have to registered as a sex offender! man or woman if you rape my son i will kill you! the justice system needs to realize women can rape young boys!!!

insted of going after people that miss spell go after the sick pedifile this article is talking about she needs to b in prison for atleast 20 years,but knowing our screwd up system she will get a slape on the hand by the judge.meanwhile obama puts more people in prison for following there state guidlines for medical marijuanna,this sick bit-- will get less of a sentence than people who are hurting no one

Mike you seem to have lost the lead...Schools don't typically hire illegal immigrants to teach even to sub in a classroom. Also, there are many reasons sick people go to the ER. That said; you are probably spot on with the following:

this women is un stable why ? how many 35 yr women (adult) "we were just discussing personal problems in there lifes" with a 14 yr (child)...she needs to be branded a pedophile, do time

Agreed...what adult in their right mind discusses their personal problems with a 14 year old child. What adult in their right mind has sex with a 14 year old child. Absolutely, she needs to be tried and if found guilty put her on the sex offender registry for the remainder of her life. If found guilty put her in prison.

I think we are all getting a bit tired of hearing about the teachers who choose to victimize their students. I am sure that we all hope her husband and children can find some peace after a betrayal of this magnitude. We can hope the 14 year old boy is able to fully understand the magnitude of this teachers actions. So many prayers to say for those touched by this woman's pedophilia.

PS: there are many Mexican Americans in Texas and well you just don't go around deporting American citizens.

Aside from the assumption of how she paid, is the assumption of why she went to the emergency room. People , good and bad, have actual emergencies. My sister found out she was pregnant at an emergency room years ago, when she fell and broke two ribs.

New Gawker - while the boy probably wasn't distraught over having sex with an older woman, my guess is that having a baby will change his life... some of the consequences that fourteen year olds don't think about when he probably (in his naive fourteen year old mind) assumed that the adult was taking the precautions she needed to prevent such a thing.

The key here is that she took advantage of someone who wasn't mature enough to completely take into account all of the consequences that such a relationship might entail. What she did was wrong... and she shouldn't have burdened a fourteen year old with the problems she was facing. She basically decided his future for him when he probably would have chosen a much different path had he been given the freedom that comes with adulthood before having to decide. She is a very selfish woman who seems concerned mainly about how her problems affect her and could give a care less how they affect those around her. She wasn't concerned about how this would affect her husband or current children... or the fourteen year old boy.

She may be old enough to decide who she loves... but the fourteen year old is quite a different story. This is the problem.

In case all of you didn't know, any time someone under the age of 16 (in some states 15) has sex with an adult, the adult commits statutory rape. It is statutory rape because the age of consent is set by statute.

States set the age because children under a certain age do not have the emotional or mental capacity to properly consent to having sex.

Most states also have exemptions when dealing with two teenagers having sex.

For those who say, "good for him." The reality is, because this authority figure took advantage of a vulnerable student, he will never fully trust or treat authority figures correctly, ever.

New Gawker, yes boys and girls are different but children are just that, children. Just because you don't believe physical coercion took place doesn't mean emotional coercion didn't take place. Maybe the kid thinks he scored or maybe he felt coerced or manipulated and violated. An ongoing sexual relationship between a 14 year old and an adult could easily damage the child, boy or girl. There is a reason 14 year olds aren't allowed to do things like vote or drink and there is a reason adults shouldn't have sex with minors.

OK, so who is going to kick her but for seducing a minor and then take that baby and put it up for adoption. She cannot raise a baby in jail and that is where she needs to be for raping a minor.

What was she thinking? That 14 year old boys shoot only blanks? She is not that bad looking but kinda dumb...

I hope she's not expecting child support.

"a charge of indecency with a child" If it had been a male teacher it would be Rape! Throw here in Jail and take the child away from her. She obviously hasn't got the mental capacity to raise a child. If it was a man, I'd be saying you can't cure him give him life in jail or death! Why should she be any different? I'm a white male; I have no sympathy for anyone that would hurt a child physically or mentally!

So will the 14 year old have to pay child support?

I think we should hang ANY ADULT who has sexual relations of any kind with a child.

just stop that sickness in it's tracks...

and then what to do about the child who's been damaged by these kinds of relationships, to where they think it's "ok"?

this boy will grow up to be a man and im pretty certain he'll think having sexual relations with a minor is ok, because he'll remember being that minor and thinking it was ok.

i dunno he must been desperate cuz i think i rather be a virgin then have sex with this lady cuz she looks ugly and fat. he must been ugly too. lol.

Damn. Every time I've gone to the Emergency Room I get billed. When does the "free" stuff kick in?

Mike, don't be an ignorant dumbass.

From the Gazzette" The high school principal stated during a recent interview that the teacher in question " Was the most popular sex education sub we ever had". Go figure !

Would he be responsible for child support? Ethics courses need to be tailored for all college majors and high school students and required.

...and Jackie, it is still pedophilia. Males needing to be at least turned on to have intercourse while females can be totally unwilling is immaterial. Adults need to realize that although children sometimes do flirt, often innocently ("Daddy I'd like to marry you one day"), sometimes as a precursor to"growing up" and growing into their own sexualities (teenage angst), we are not to take advantage of it. Whenever we delude ourselves into thinking it is legitimate love, we have definitely crossed the line and are at least on our way to stealing something that can never be returned.

AS I read some of the comments here, I think how hippocritical our socialty has become. I may not like the idea of a 33 yr old having sex with a 14 yr old, but I remember stories from my father about is dad about teaching young boys about sex by finding an older women, professional of some sort. And I also believe that a normal 14yr old boy would think it's great and use it as experience for himself in his next part in life. We all know it as being an older teen and Parking.

The problem lies with the fact that society as a whole has thrown morality out the window in order to satisfy desires to do whatever they want. When people have no morals they do heinous things ... like this lady did.

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So will the 14 year old have to pay child support?

Not right now, until the age of 18 he does not have to pay child support.

The person or persons who will have to pay child support will be the 14 year old parents.

Gee, why don't the pols raise our taxes so they can afford to hire more quality teachers like this one....we sure got our money's worth here, huh?

Sophie You ARE CRRECT, and Mike259 give the racist card a rest please. This lady became pregnant after being with this young man; She slipped up, is that unusual? What is Very Unusual is the amount of racist , ignorant and gestapo Anger statements being posted here. Throughout the ages, many times, boys are taken in Manhood by an "older" Woman which Imprints and Bonds them into their natural genetic proclivity. So what is the BIG ISSUE Here?? Now these Women are hunted down and fed into the "legal/law enFarcement public servant" Feeding Trough to justify their jobs and pay; Please do not give US "It's the Law" Bull....MittTaxPittanceRommel did not pay income taxes for 13years up to 2009, Millions of people are systematically ripped off by corporations and credit card pirates and these "law EnFarcement" Clowns don't do anything... The next thing these "law enfarcers" are going to do is burn these ladies at the stake or pillary them for the public to have a slap at. Ever think that JUST MAYBE these "older Women" are Helping these young men in their Psycho/Sexual Development so that they end up understanding and relating to Women better. More Young Men, less ted bundys; Is that Clear Enough??

I believe this teacher took "sex education" a little far.

I am not sure if the 14 year old would have problems. Some kids are more advanced early on then others. As for her, she has got some issues being married with children and that alone would be the problem for obvious reasons and could effect the boy as well by sending the wrong message regarding adultery and other morals that we struggle to teach our children.

WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE!!! How can any adult EVER justify having sex with a minor child?? The correct answer is there is no justification for this; NOT we were both having issues... This woman and all the other pedophiles going after teens need to be locked up for life. Sending these people to jail for a few years is not the answer. They are not only breaking the law they are screwing up the life of a young person, who is then going to have a hard time making good decisions themselves.... If, we the "responsible" adults, do not demand an end to this it will only get worse!

heard...about the 14 year old...who took his grandpa's Viagra...went to the hospital with...first and second degree burn's on both hands...no high fives for a while...

It amazes me that a 35yr old women getting knocked up by a 14yr old boy barely raises an eyebrow. Now if it was a 35yr old man getting a 14yr girl knocked up, there would be hell to pay.

Why are the laws so lax when it comes to women having sex with underage boys. A man in this type of case would get 5 to 15 in prison. Easily! A women barely gets house arrest. If that!!! The laws should reflect equally in this type of case. The stadard here should be atleast a 5yr stint minimium. Regardless a man or woman.

Bill Clinton is looking for a teacher!

Phantom Beastie: The Ted Bundy's are often the result of abusive women. And what about if the adult was a man like Sandusky. You approve of that too?

I blame parents today, not the parents of the boy, no the parents of the teacher, OBVIOUSLY her parents never taught her to respect the laws, and that you should not molest little children, like how retarded do you got to be to not already know that, especially a woman, but then look at all the women today who are molesting our children, and as we know with girls who are molested and women who are raped, if you got one report theres at least 10 who will never report their rapes so if we've had a few dozen then the reality is theres a few hundred women out there molesting our children in our schools, so whos hiring all these retarded women???

that's what happens when you have sex!

@ Annie 3224- Since no one else addressed your idiotic comment, I'm going to do it. First, yes fourteen years olds do get women pregnant. Secondly, women cannot get themselves pregnant, they have to have a man in order for that to happen. Now, with that being said, She should have not been having sex with an underage student.. I do agree with that. However, if you are going to try to be funny and sarcastic, please do so with intelligence. Because women do not get themselves pregnant. How in the hell did you get that last point out of this situation, hell how do you get that last point out of any situation?! What the hell is wrong with your brain?!

True enough she should not have put herself in this situation and from that aspect I understand what you are saying. But your second point has no validity with me. And this also goes for the 44 idiots that voted and elevated your idiotic post.

And to imply that all women having sex and getting pregnant had/ have consentual sex is idiotic and wrong too. As this is not always the situation either.

I know nothing about this woman but I do know that the ancestors of many "Mexicans" have lived in Texas much longer that any "white" people.

Plain Bob, You are the one and only constant that keeps me wasting my time here,my friend! I am laughing my a$$ off!

I don't care what race she is. As a mother I'd like to crush her skull. Sick beeyoch. He is a child. She is a POS. How do these sicko pedophiles manage to get jobs working with children? My child is a female. If a male teacher touched her sexually it would be the last sexual contact he had before losing his manparts to my machete.

IWonder, Does that mean the remains of the 3000 yr old Texans dug up in Harris, County don't have a claim?

Well you guys commenting up at the top of this first column are the total i____'s; the woman is a teacher. She sure is not teaching (not even substitute teaching) in a big city without having proper citizenship. But if she is a substitute teacher she may not earn very much money, especially in Texas.

As for her being illegal; well that is totally on account of her other problems, and that she certainly is.

rmb22 do you have a machete? There are better things for getting that job done than a machete.

What she did was unconscionable and completely wrong. She is obviously seriously mentally ill. But the difference is, boys do tend to want to @!$%# some of their teachers. It's a fantasy many of them have.

I have asked a lot of my guy friends and even my younger bro and his friends when a story comes out like this every other week, and they said "HELL YEAH I WOULD OF @!$%#ED MISS SO AND SO IF SHE LET ME." So teen males and teen females ARE different.

But a NORMAL ADULT who is healthy and has good morals knows better than to stupidly crush on a kid young enough to be her kid. That's soooo not normal. In college, we had several profs who were known for banging their students. I think that is wrong too even though both are of age. Hope this broad goes to jail for a long long time. She is a pedophile.

My oh my ,gosh nothing better to do .

My oh my ,gosh nothing better to do .

Why do some of you turn everything here into a political issue? WTF is wrong with you people?

Who would want sex with this chalupa?

14-year olds don't get women pregnant; women get themselves pregnant.

If women could get themselves pregnant, we would have probably gotten rid of the men a long time ago. ... well, maybe keep a few as pets... ;-P

Not right now, until the age of 18 he does not have to pay child support.

The person or persons who will have to pay child support will be the 14 year old parents.

Not always true. Support and custody issues are decided at a state level so forgive me if your state is different... but the majority of states have ruled that the age of the party has no relevence to the issue of child supprt. While minors may not be legally bound by contracts, the same does not hold true for court orders. Juveniles are subject to court orders all the time.

"14-year-old got me pregnant" ... like it was rape or getting the flu??? Takes two to scr*w, you nasty old perv lady.

Wanna tell you a story, about a woman I know. When it comes to lovin', she steals the show. Ain't exactly pretty, aint exactly small....42, 39, 56, you can say she got it all!!! Never had a woman, never had a woman like you. Doing all the things, doing all the things you do! Ain't no fairy story, ain't no skin and bone. Give it all you got, weighing in at nineteen stone. Whole lotta woman! Whole lotta Rosie!

Rape your son? Get a clue. Your 14 year old is actively looking for nookie wherever he can find it. Your 14 year old daughter is too. The sad part is that she will succeed far, far sooner (and many, many, many more times) than your nerdy son. There are things going through his mind that your old ass has long forgotten.

Raising boys is easy. You only got to worry about one wang. With girls, it's all the wangs around that keep you awake on Saturday night.

In Mexico, it is legal to marry a 14 ear old.

It's appears the woman is Mexican and lives in TX. All the cries of racism won't stop people from figuring out the obvious. Immigrants bring their culture's customs and mindset with them to America.

Bob, you are so right. Anyone that is seeing this differently isn't being honest with themselves or the rest of the board.

Too many, WAY too many parents they think they can control every single aspect of their children's lives, including their thoughts on sex. It's a purely natural drive that culminates in a beautiful thing, that 'certain' groups try to distort and punish. Dichotomies cause mental illness when the issues are so consuming, especially when the parents drag in a Supreme Being as Punisher, resulting in those like Dahmer, or Bundy, or Gacy (all strictly reared by "moral" parents, btw.)

"Morality" has nothing to do with it...that's nothing more than a control game, or a parental delusional (e.g.: Mumsie can't believe or accept that little Jackie might actually have a carnal though or ideation, or that their child might behave in such a way.) And too many parents seem to think that teaching 'morality', demanding it, or even having the expectation of it due to some sort of mystical inherent knowledge, is going to be a talisman against unexpected heartache.

Yes, you would think that all these parents NEVER had a glimmer of a thought about it when they were young, which makes them unrealistically perfect, and ideal candidates for the proverbial "rude awakening".

emergency room visit, thats were the free healthcare is..that makes her an illegal

So anyone that goes to an emergency room is an illegal? LOL.

In Texas, the illegals overwhelm the emergency rooms. A man died in north Dallas waiting for help because the emergency room was packed.

Will she get 20 years like a male would get for statutory rape with a minor female ?

She had problems so she confided in him. He is 14 , she is 37 for cryin out loud.

She goes to an ER and runs up a $4,000 bill for Fed tax payers to find out if she is pregnant ?

This is why the taxpayers are broke, why the school systems are failing the kids.

Well, you don't read EXACTLY like me... my comprehension is pretty good. 1) Plenty of females go to jail for statutory. 2) the article does not mention why she went to the ER, or whether or not she had insurance. DId you assume this bit simply because her skin is tan?

@Olivia Dunham

I'm a female. I had a major crush on one of my teachers in high school. And yes, I even fantasized about having sex with him. That is not strictly limited to boys, girls have fantasies about their teachers too. The difference is, I was smart enough to know that even if he felt the same way, pursuing a relationship with a teacher would be stupid because their life would be ruined. I don't think I'd have been scarred for life by having sex with my then-25 year old teacher at 16, but I'm not, and never was, some whiny, immature, pathetic baby like most girls at that age, because if I was that pathetic and immature I might have tried something.

Just My: People with insurance don't go to the ER very often. Most plans have a $500 ER deductible. $15 co-pay at the Family Practice Doc office. Why do they charge $500 deductible for ER ? Because there is a medical protocol. First the Docs in ER (key word emergency) don't know the patient and do not have the patient's records. So they must establish certain levels of diagnosis and look for things that the patients isn't even complaining about. The bills for simple things in the ER can cost thousands of times more than if the patient went to Fam Practice Doc. So the Ins Co's want to discourage visits to the ER. I doubt a substitute teacher would volunteer to pay $500 or more for the trip. Whether a private pay plan or Medicaid the cost of a visit to the ER is shoved off on other people who did nothing to deserve the bill. For that reason it should only happen in true emergencies.

Again, the article does not say WHY she was in the ER... how do you know it wasn't an emergency?

Damn! If I had had a teacher like this who actually taught me something as useful as this in what seems to be a slow and gentle process, it would have saved my 14 year old butt no end of anxiety, error, and dumb mistakes in my subsequent teenage years and way less scarring than the random traumas I had to endure in our sex-crazed but religiously twisted and hypocrisy riddled society. It wasn't that long ago in Humanzee social development that a 14 year old boy was expected to be married and starting a family. Sex and taking a crap are the most basic functions in Life. In fact, in the biological world that so many poorly educated (read: mentally deformed) Humanzees deny we are any part of, in that biological world there is only one really bizarre sexual deviance: Celibacy. If only more of these sexually twisted minds that think that maturity magically starts at some arbitrary age would observe celibacy, we would not only have way fewer pedophiles (they come from sexual suppression and 'moral' conflict), we might have a healthy society where childhood sexuality is understood and sexual violence nonexistent.

And for those of you who do not read well, I am not coming out for pedophiles. The sexual mores of America are themselves seriously bizarre where you all get torch and pitchforky about something like this, but infants on stage dressed and made up as prostitutes (role play) by crazed and obese mothers, acting out sexual messages in popular song is perfectly acceptable and 'cute'. And you do not see the evil in our national Puritan derived and highly conflicted sexual morality that gives us the highest rate of violent sexual crime and pedophilia on the planet. And all of the perps are not "victims of child abuse' except in the twisted and conflicted and contradictory sexual values we inadvertently program them with. The solution is not just incarcerating all of the damaged personalities that our hypocrisy-based society generates, but changing our twisted and self-contradicting values by teaching kids early on a clear and open attitude about sexuality in the same way that we teach them not to shiat on the carpet. Then we would have healthy parents, not millions of sexually terrified and confused people trying to raise healthy kids and failing because of the utter disconnect between our sexual values and taboos and absolute and unchangeable biological realities. The pedophiles and rapists are themselves products of our society and, intolerable as their behavior is, they are as much victims of America's moral perversion of sexuality as the children they prey upon. We need to change the social milieu that we grow up in and remove the subliminal fear and loathing from sexuality that generates these folks in the first place and not try to lock up what seems to be an ever growing segment of our population. Ignorance is poison, especially for children, and it's parental ignorance that is the worst.

Amanda Sotelo, a resident of Von Ormy, was booked into a Bexar County jail on Nov. 1 on a charge of indecency with a child, Louis J. Antu, spokesman with the Bexar County Sheriff’s Office, told NBC News.

Am I the only one that thinks someone was drunk while typing the above paragraph?

Hopefully, you are the only one. The grammar in that sentence (not paragraph) is basically correct, if somewhat complex. Even the punctuation is used correctly. I have to admit, though, that both are kind of a shock for MSN these days.

Correct it- I actually do own a machete as an avid backpacker. And I don't think there is a better tool for the job. It would work wonders on the male parts. Come near my daughter and you'll find out. ;)

She isn't exactly Van Halen video material.

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I doubt the 14 year old will be bragging about tagging her.

He's 14!! He'd be bragging that he tagged anyone born with a va_ina.

Should've used a rubber and all would be ok.

Sotelo further stated she loves the victim and he loves her.

No, he's 14 and ENJOYS steady p***y. There's a difference. If you're 35 and don't understand that....

@Bizzer hit on what I have been saying for years. Remember when you were 14. There was no shortage of 14 year olds to screw and none of us were looking for 35 year olds to screw.

A lot of fourteen years olds are still developing and are uncoordinated. This boy obviously pushed when he should have pulled.

Won't say she was ugly in my book, but I'll be darned if I'd let her out to pasture without a bag over her head, maybe two bags.

Yeah, I'm cruel - but honest.

slimyone - way to admit you were a wh@re lol!

She isn't exactly Van Halen video material.

I bet Arnold would find that teacher hot!

A fourteen year old boy will f#ck a watermelon left out in the sun if he can get away with it. Saw it in a movie once. Really hilarous movie probably rated PG. Had that girl from "Felicity" in it. Same fourteen year old mail orders a "Swedish Super Sucker" and blows out the power while not having left his room for a VERY long time.

She isn't exactly Van Halen video material.

These days Van Halen isn't exactly Van Halen video material.

Yeah Dan, and I thought you might have included common decency, common sense, and even a minimum of moral awareness and restraint. I suppose condoms and pills would make a good substitute for some people lacking in all the above...

Man, she's pregnant? Modern medical science has made great strides lately. They know what causes that, now.

I suppose condoms and pills would make a good substitute for some people lacking in all the above...

Sure it does. Free birth control removes the onus from personal responsibility to public financial support.

The real comments should be directed toward the headline...

14-year-old got her pregnant

Whether it was the teacher or the journalist somebody is trying to lay the blame on the kid - with wording that verges on rape. There was a case of rape but it wasn't the kid raping the teacher but the other way round. In most states when a teacher has sex with a student despite how "consensual" it was it gets elevated to "aggravated" because of her position of authority.

Let's hope Mrs. DroppedHerDrawers gets the elevated charges.

Obama's Job plan for the ( I hope not ) the next 4 yrs. WE NEED MORE TEACHERS!!!!!!!!!!

Obviously her mindset is at about the same age as his: "it won't happen to me, so I don't need protection".

The woman has issues at many levels, and each level just leads me to realize what a lost cause she is.

another baby for the dumpster; or another bite on of the welfare ticket.

I don't understand why people want the lady to burn. I think the spin is sending the wrong message. But to say she 'raped' him is rather stupid too. 14 yr old boys WANT to have sex BADLY, and with just about anything. Feminism has made us think that women and men are equals across the board but the reality is we aren't. A great example is how we approach sex. A young girl would be emotionally traumatized and sexually stunted by becoming involved with a 30 something man. A young man will brag about having sex with his teacher and move on with his life. The psychology between men and women is radically different when it comes to sex. It follows that the law should take this reality into account when it comes to charges and punisments.

A young girl would be emotionally traumatized and sexually stunted by becoming involved with a 30 something man.

I'm sorry but... really?

I don't know about any other women. But I am sick and tired of society telling me what should or should not traumatize me because I'm female.

Obama's Job plan for the ( I hope not ) the next 4 yrs. WE NEED MORE TEACHERS!!!!!!!!!!

You just knew someone would blame Obama for this.

A young girl would be emotionally traumatized and sexually stunted by becoming involved with a 30 something man.

wheether people want to believe it or not, the same thing happens to boys. The trauma just manifests itself in different ways. There is a very high crime rate among young males that been "raped".

14 yr old boys WANT to have sex BADLY, and with just about anything.

Desire is not the limiting factor in rape of a teenager - regardless of raging hormones. Age is a defining factor in most crimes. Most states recognize "aggravating" conditions such as position of authority (teacher, cop, clergy, etc.) and age difference (10 or more years).

#5.9, How much "Trauma" is involved?

I would say that varies on the individual themselves and the circumstances involved. There really is no clear cut definitive answer for there are so many variables involved.

A very valid point!! No one actually said its the boy's baby. I hope it's not for the sake of the baby and her husband.

I saw in a new report from San Antonio that she claims its the 14 year olds baby. She may be saying that to try to diffuse or gain sympathy. The invention of paternity tests is a good thing!!

She also had a facebook page that said "Only God can judge me". We'll see about that!!! Don't know if the page is still up or not.

Gain sympathy- for what would anyone have sympathy for? If she had relations with the boy she is a predator, and if she had relations with the boy she deserves NO SYMPATHY.

God judged her several thousand years before she was born, with that whole Ten Commandments / adultry thing.

"But that's just my opinion. I could be wrong."

@32 maniac,

I believe she is mistaken, she will be judged by man as well.

I really hate sick people, if she is guilty, she is just as sandusky and those other freaks

If her husband happens to be infertile it makes it easier to guess who the father is. I only say this because I have known guys whos girlfriends try to say they are the father of her child. It only forced her to admit she was cheating on him when he tells her he had a vasectomy.

She's got the time-line down right?

Her thoughts: "If I don't give hubby any lovin' for over a year, but give this 14 yr old some almost daily and I turn up pregnant, then it's probably the 14 yr olds?"

Or at least one of the 14 year old's --- who's to say more won't turn up before this is over.

She knows that he husband isn't the fathe because she is a sick pedophile and only has sex with children. Obviously.

Why not see if the husband is the father first?

How many women have little idea or are unsure of the "father" of their child?

What on earth was she thinking? She's shockingly stupid to start that relationship and even MORE stupid to talk about it. Doesn't she ever read the papers or watch the news? Doesn't she know the public and court system want to string her up? I doubt very much the boy will still be infatuated with her after she serves her 10, 20 or more year draconian sentence.

That is some HOT Mexican!

nazarite:: What the "he-double-toothpicks"" does this incident have to do with President Obama? I have a very deep feeling that you are a republithug, a Pee Party one at that, a bigot and racist and poor white trash at that.

Now go crawl back under that rock where you were found-- you certainly weren't born of a human.

Susie - You have just stooped to the level you berated. Your obvious support of obama blinds your view that nazarite could have been referring to the fact that obama sells himself off to anybody through his massive support of entitlements such as welfare, etc.

Do you honestly think that a 14 y.o. kid is going to be able to support a family without obama's assistance?

Calm down lady. Someones child that he put his pines inside of her. at any moment he could of walked away. they are both wrong. put it at that.

Your acting like if you have never been young and horny before.

yeah, ok...flip it aorund there H001.......what would you say if it were a 14yr old girl and an older man? little different story i bet. it would all be the evil man's fault right? preying on the little hlpless girl.

fact is, the women doing these crimes NEVER get actual punishment...a slap on the wrist at the most whereas a man wil do hard time, be labeled as a sex offender for the rest of his life, etc....

what she did is wrong and she should be punished the same way a man would be for the same exact crime......but she won't......probably 5 yrs probation at the most.

Men and women aren't the same callingitlikeitis. The reverse is bad because 14yr old girls are mentally different then 14 yr old boys. The sort of thing that traumatizes the girl doesn't phase the boy. The girls fantasies revolve around the future, marriage, children, romance...and the indeed very evil man feeds and manipulates those dreams to get his rocks off with a underage girl. The boy dreams about sticking it in, and the woman said "ok" and that was that. THAT is the difference.

Of course if you want to come back and cry about how unfair it is to men, please do. Only thing worse then a feminist...is a masculinist.

Thank you Cirnobyl. Men and Women are not the same. Teenage boys and girls are not the same. Ayoung girls mind is completetly different than a young boys mind.

Like you said if this situation were reversed the girl would be traumitized. It would affect her for the rest of her life. I really wish the other posters on here would see that also.

Way to be sexist you two. And promote sexist attitudes.

@Cirnobyl

When I was 14 the LAST thing on my mind was marriage and children. It still is now. Not all women and girls are lusting after a ring and a baby at every given moment. Please stop promoting sexist attitudes. Not every young girl would be traumatized by having sex with an older man and not every young boy would feel he got lucky having sex with an older woman. So in addition to shoving your sexist attitude where the sun don't shine, I'd shove your generalizations up there as well. Boys and girls may be different, but there are differences within the sexes as well.

@ Mandy- I really wasnt trying to promote a sexist attitude at all. I had honestly typed that post in a defense for if the situation was reversed. I agree with you Anna. Not all fourteen year old girls would be traumatized. But in all honesty most would be. Anyways what I was honestly trying to say was that teenage girls are different from teenage boys just as women are diffferent from men. I am not trying to promote a sexist attitude at all. I can promise you that. But women are different from men, sexually, mentally, and emotionally. That is a fact. However when I wrote that comment I wrote it in defense of people comapring this situation if it were a young girl and an older man. I was sncerely thinking of the longterm effects it would have on a young teenage girl if the situation was reversed, and that yes it would be different then.

However, Anna you are right. Because at fourteen I wasn't fantasizing about rocking a ring either. And you are right not every fourteen year old boy would have enjoyed that situation. And not all girls would be severely afftected or traumatized because they had sex with an older male. As there are alot of fourteen year old young ladies that enjoy having sexual realtions with older men. And there are alot of young boys who prefer to have sex with gilrs their own age. You are right. And I do agree with you one hundred percent.

And i definitely didnt want kids then. And to be honest I still to this very day do not want kids. However I dont mind the husband part. But its not something that is a major part of my life. Its like Im just crazy about the idea of marriage or crazy about marriage. As there are more important issues in my life right now than these two. So you are right and I do agree. I never menat to offend any other woman. Because I do not have a sexist attitude at all. Please believe me.

Thanks for clearing that up sweet. I just get annoyed when people act like certain things are supposed to be traumatizing to women but not boys and vice versa and its just dumb. lol

You welcome. And yeah you are right. I do agree. That is true.

And i meant to say to say iits not like I am crazy about the idea of marriage or marriage at all. Because believe me I am not crazy about marriage or the idea of marriage. I just caught my mistake. This is how that part was supposed to read originally.

sunniebabie - what you say is absolutely correct. However, hormones know no age. The kid's hormones had to be sky high for him to even want to have sex with someone who might be older than his mother. Sotelo is just plain sicko.

Do you know what else is nasty and sick? YOUR GRAMMAR!

scales67

The kid's hormones had to be sky high for him to even want to have sex with someone who might be older than his mother.

You must have never been a 14 yr old boy before.

Ted Kennedy - Glad to see the English Trolls are out. You moron!

"Your NASTY and SICK if your sleeping with a CHILD."

It's "you're" and in this day and age there is no excuse for such ignorance of basic english. I hope you don't have kids, we have enough remedial people in this world.

She is a nice person, on the inside!

Practically everyone I knew in my neighborhood and schools from age 11, has had sex. Boys were having sex, and girls were having sex. If you are seeking sex or agreeing to sex, what difference does it make how old the person you are having sex with is? I was this age in 1970, and still know many of the people I had sex with. None of us needed any therapy because we had sex. Only in my wildest dreams have I had sex with an older person, which I fantasied about my best friends Mom, and the mother of some of the girls I had dated. But I'm pretty sure the only thing that would be different then having sex with someone my own age, is maybe learning a new position I hadn't thought of yet.

She should get exactly what a man would get if the situation was reversed. Who knows, maybe the kid will wait for her and they will get married, that has happened before.

SHe should be charged with rape, no freaking double standard in my mind, if she is convicted I would suggest that she share her cell with Sandusky both are predators and both are equally as dangerous.

WHat I have seen posted in similar cases is that a lot of men (I would classify them as immature redneck types) think it is okay for a male student to have sex with a teacher, specially if it is a cute teacher. And I dray your attention to the posts from John Krisfaluski (past 4) and the reposnses.

And what becomes of the baby, if the DNA does match the boy's? Is there a court in the land that would decree the baby to be put out for blind adoption? In many states, the birth certificate would have her husband for the father, but I think that's changing now (and will change in this case when her husband dumps her, takes the kids, and moves to Alaska, where so many others have fled to get out of the court of Public Opinion).

In Sparta, back in the old days of real men with long hair and real women with short hair, and everyone was rock hard buff, this would have been acceptable as she had the obligation to give her husband strong healthy children; who fathered them was of little or concern.

Men are the reason there's a double standard in these cases. Most women that I know would be more than happy to see all these women predators locked up for the same amount of time a man would get. It's always the men who predictably post " Where were all these teachers hen I was in high school ?" Except in cases like this when the female is not "hot".

Lock them ALL up, male and female, hot or not............................

Starshine is right, if you don't want a double standard stop posting perverted messages when the teacher is "hot." In most cases they also get a male judge who is lenient on the poor downtrodden "little lady." Cut it out, and put them away for life. Only a crazy person would want a teenaged boy.

Yes. Lock them all up man or women who have sex with kids.

If you ask me, it's a victimless crime. Ask the 14 year old boy if he feels abused or if he'd gladly have another shot at her! Stupid of her though.`

ProDem1, it's not victimless. There's the husband and her kids and his parents having to deal with this, and now she's gone public with her pregnancy.

That's hilarious b/c right before I posted they were all there, now 15 minutes later half are gone. Censorship.

Damn communist and their censorship. Maybe they have out of work former KGB agents scanning all the post! (sarcasm folks, learn it)

Big Brother?

You should not try to glorify yourself by bragging about the men you slept with.

Teachers or not.

William,

As a child of the 60's and young college student in th1970, I like to remember those days fondly. I just don't recall very many instances throughout high school (or Jr. high) where teachers were messing around with students or vice versa. Sure, there were some... So to suggest it was commonplace... I don't really agree with that. Of course I don't know where you went to school and I went to public school.

In any case, she is a child predator and should be punished as such. No sympathy here.

I was in HS back in the 70's too ... we had SEVERAL single "stud" coaches in our HS who made a habit of giving some of the HS girls "rides home" after basketball & volleyball practice ... We all saw it (we were on the teams!) and more students knew what was "going on".

Those coaches weren't doing it out of the kindness of their hearts ... they were predators disguised as HS coaches. We just didn't know how sick they were, back then ... One of them married a girl after graduation, he had "coached" her since she was 15. Their marriage lasted about a year. She was never the same after that, she was arrested for drug use later many times ...

The girl next door seems to have been your teacher. No certification necessary.

@Joe Scatone

Just like the movie"That's my boy".

Joe and that's the problem. see a lot of the previous posts (#4, #14 and #16). These women are predators just like male teachers who do this type of thing, but a lot of men think it is okay, sorry in my mind it is rape. The teacher should know better, who cares if a kid is oaky with it and even says he wants to have sex, the teacher is an adult, in a position of authority and should no better than to take a kid to her home alone.

When its your son or daughter (God forbid), I'm guessing you will not be posting the same quote. You'll be too busy loading your gun.

Not if she has the baby and tries to sue for child support. Most of us want our kids to go to Collage not have their lives destroyed.

I disagree, the boy's only "regret" is that the mother of his child is in jail for something he went along with. A victim absolutely has a right to cry rape, but in this case like so many others, its not the "victim" crying rape, it's us, society, and in doing so we make a victim of the child. If this child had robbed a bank along with that woman, would he still be a victim or a perpetrator?

You disagree with the main point of my post, which is that children will suffer because of her actions? The baby she's carrying won't suffer? The lives of her other children won't be negatively impacted? Whether the boy will or won't come to regret the situation remains to be seen, but those others most definitely will not come out of this unscathed. Whether the boy is or is not a victim, SHE is an adult, a married mother who should have understood the possible consequences of her choices to others in her life, and behaved accordingly.

I agree. and Interested Observer doesn't know what he is talking about. A 14 year old boy becomes a father and will have to pay child support and may not be able to go to Collage. Why would she have the baby? She now can control the 14 year old boy. This is why the law steps in.

I believe she was 42. Still, seems young sex runs in that family.

I picked up on that, too. Why exactly do they want to ban abortion in Texas? Seems they need to have more of it!!!

Dagoose wrote: "Her face book said ONLY GOD CAN JUDGE HER! Well GOD may judge her soul, but her ass belongs to the legal system"

So, whats your point. Every murderer's victim's ass belongs to the murderer & are also unfortunately judged by the murderer & condemned to death. Personally if I was the legal system or God I wouldn't want to be doing the same things murderer's do... But to each their own!

Well, all the young girls marry the older "mature" men to boost the males egos and all the "mature" women are stuck with the younger men. It's a matter of statistics. However, 14 is still too young.

OMG - It's a CRIME against a child!

CRIME

Worth Repeating:

I disagree, the boy's only "regret" is that the mother of his child is in jail for something he went along with. A victim absolutely has a right to cry rape, but in this case like so many others, its not the "victim" crying rape, it's us, society, and in doing so we make a victim of the child. If this child had robbed a bank along with that woman, would he still be a victim or a perpetrator?

Yeah, I know. I am saying it should not be. A) 14 years old is not a child. B) He was a willing participant and having fun. These puritanical laws we have are ridiculous. I had plenty of fun when I was 14 and I knew exactly what I was doing.

Actually, there is a reason why teachers cannot have sex with their students. It's because parents (like me) want to know that our kids are safe when they go to school. We want the place where they do their studies to have an environment that is as safe there as it is in our homes. It's because we want the children to come home at the end of the day knowing a little more than when we dropped them off in the morning. It is not because we look forward to a day when they may come home to tell us they went to bed with their educator.

People WITHOUT kids sometimes don't see it the way parents do. It is hard enough raising children in these times; we don't need to discover they've been compromised while we left them in someone else's trust & care. We sign them up for school to go to school and learn so they will have it better than we did (as parents) when we were younger. We want them to be there to become the best of the best in business and to be successful, and not to come home with a communicable disease or worse, news of a pregnancy.

I want every educator or any person who is granted the privilege of trust with a youngster to be banned from the profession for life if they violate that trust, even once. And if my son had ever been touched by a teacher when he was in school, I'd have personally carried out street justice immediately.

You can criticize this post all you like, but the rock bottom truth is that if I have to be separated from my child every school day, and if I have to trust those people I leave him with to be professional in every way, and if that trust is violated, then I will become the first one to get them fired.

Period.

As a father of three I sympathize with you, but you are living in a fantasy world, before there was modern society the world was a dangerous place, and the best a parent could do is teach the child to be safe, or keep them at home. In these modern times the best a parent can do is teach the child to have personal responsibility, and to take ownership of their actions, and if they make a mistake help them get through it, but if they are abused, I mean really abused, where they were not not control of what happens to them, then bring holy hell on the abuser. I can't control what path my children take, I can only advise and protect the journey.

A parent has to guide children in addition to giving good advice and provide for their personal welfare and safety. I know I didn't cover all the bases. But guidance is pretty important and appears to be missing in a lot of families raising children these days.

I take it that Foxy Seal wants jail bait to be legal. I wonder why????

You people are disgusting! The 14 year-old is the victim of a sexual predator. She is the adult, she knew it was wrong, and it IS wrong!
And as the parent - you are responsible for your child's welfare. A 14 year-old is a child. And now, at 14, this CHILD is being saddled with a child!
Those of y9u here who think there is nothing wrong with this should not be raising children, or even be allowed to be around them. You are OK with Sexual child abuse.

I am a father, and I agree with Foxy Seal. This was not forcible rape, but statutory. He was probably an eager participant. The boy learned something about life. The age of consent should be lowered to the biological reality, 12 or 13. The fact that she was in a position of responsibility, his teacher, I do have a problem with. I agree with 818 Robert that we need to be able to trust that the full adults caring for our children are not having any dubious extra-curricular activities with them. But in general a 14 year old with a fully grown adult? I don't have a problem with it.

Puberty does not equal ability to consent. Kids are not ready at that age to have sex. They don't think. They do stupid things not out of ignorance, but because they don't have the mental brakes in place to stop impulses, and those brakes won't be fully in place for years.

They aren't going to think to use birth control. They aren't going to think of consequences. They aren't worried about their future because they live in a fantasy land where they are provided clothes, food, and shelter with little obligation. Even if their parents provide them chores, there's a hell of a lot of difference when the only reason you have a place to live is because you work.

The brain goes through two major breakdown periods - at around age 6 or 7, and again around age 12-14. What does that mean? The brain is restructuring. The early teen actually gets stupider for a while, as the brain gives up previous connections to make room for adult reasoning.

So he might have wanted it. So what? We know more about child development now than we ever have in the past, and we need to be using that tool, not throwing it away with a shrug and a laugh.

Break the cycle.

I agree with you Juleeb.

Agree. People keep saying "Oh any 14 year old boy having sex with an older woman is one lucky dog", and who knows, maybe he feels that way right now, but who's to say that when he's older he won't regret it. He'll probably eventually realize just how sick it really is.

Some time ago an older guy named "Joe" was told his much younger betroved, she was around 14, was pregnant with someone else's baby (not his). he was told some crazy story,but he agreed to marry her because in his religion a single woman would be stoned to death.

That laid the foundation for the worlds greatest religion, Josheph, married Marry and they had a son Jesus.

How far we have strayed.

Yes, it's a nice fairy tale. But that is all that it is....a STORY....made up over 2000 years ago by ignorant, uneducated, and primitive bronze age shepherds. The fact that so many people still 'believe' that some zombie in the sky will take away all your sins is a ludicrous testament to how stupid and primitive the human race still is after all this time.

For a doctor you sure are dumb.... You just called everyone "stupid and primitive" Yourself included I mean you are part of the "human race" right??? O.o

Stop playing all these computer games, they are making you paranoid.... And Star Trek wasn't real either... And Zombies lol.... Faith isn't ludicrous, sitting in your house waiting for the Zombie apocolypse is though I assure you.

"Story" definition: An account of imaginary or REAL PEOPLE and EVENTS told for entertainment: "an adventure story".

I'm pretty sure by the way you are speaking you don't consider this "story" entertaining, and i can tell you that those of us who live by the bible don't find the story entertaining per say, the Bible is an instructional collection of books that tell us the way our God wants us to live and to Love our savior and yours (you just don't know it yet) to have pitty for misguided people like you.

I'll be praying for ya DOC TROLL!!!!

Oh, stick your Bible comic book where the sun don't shine! Our Constitution prohibits you from requiring anyone else to have the same religious beliefs you do - or even any at all. You are certainly free to live your life according to that silly internally-inconsistent book - and even to cherry-pick which passages you believe, and which you ignore, as most "Christians" do. But no one else has to. Sitting around waiting for the Rapture is at least as silly as waiting for a zombie apocalypse.

WOW!!!! your panties are sure in a wad aren't they?? I appreciate that you think enough of me that you would think that the Constitution prohibits ME from requiring anyone to do anything!!! And if I'm free to live my life according to my "silly inconsistent book" then thank you for reiderating that fact so justly... You sure showed me... And please enlighten everyone about these passages that us "Christians cherry-pick"... I always hear this but no one can ever answer??? Odd huh?? "But no one else has too" Has to what?? cherry pick the bible, you know that inconsistent book?(from your stammering I came to the conclusion you didn't read it???) You act like you know what it is like to be Christian and a true believer, just because you know Christians read and live by the bible doesn't mean you know everything about Christians. That type of medaphor would leave one to believe they could be a doctor because they know that Doctors use syringes, stethascopes, and white coats.

Oh Yeah one more thing since you brought up the constituion. The separation of church and state does not mean the separation of God and government or of religion and politics. The First Amendment limits only the power of government — not the power of the people or of the church. Religious organizations are free to speak out on the issues of the day. They can preach, pray, proselytize, promote and, yes, even endorse candidates if they are foolish enough to do so. (They will, however, have to forfeit their tax exemption if they use church funds, since we don't allow a tax deduction for monies given to partisan causes — just charitable ones.) Again, it is government — not religious organizations — that is restricted by our Constitution.

This will not pertain to this and any other case but the "age" has to be lowered. At least get off the 18 years old. 16 at best and perhaps 14.

There are definitely different maturity stages for teenagers..both sexes. Anyway, we are civilized, we now live to be in the 100's well beyond the age of 30 when in the dawn of mankinds start on this planet our life expectancy usually ended by the age of 30, so we don't need to breed at such an early stage of life even though it's physically and biologically easy to do for anyone past 10 it seems. I guess teenagers are best at educating themselves by slipping it to each other. My educator was a grown woman in her 20's while I was 14, it only taught me that I liked it, and wanted more of it...the usual for a teenage boy. I didn't get hooked on old broads at all...rather the more experienced girls around my own age....and none of them were virgins either, they got their education from older guys...16-18 mostly a few 19 yo according to them. I am happy that my "teacher" did not get arrested since she technically taught me a great deal that I was bound to learn on my own anyway since I was being the aggressor but just didn't quite know what I was doing yet, and she insisted on teaching me about rubbers...TG, and thus I used them everytime for all my scores.

It's different for girls that it is for guys...the story says she was married, no proof the kid is the father yet, but highly possible..younger stronger swimmers. I don't think it's the same...being a guy...I know the pressure we can put on girls to give it up...So some old dude just doesn't need to be bagging a young girl, because some teenage guy will eventually get her anyway.... It's never really force when a woman does it, but it's very much force when a guy overpowers a girl or woman and "takes" it. There are differences and we should go by circumstances, not everything is a plain as black and white words of law. For this lady using one of her students who more than likely was a very willing participant she needs to see a shrink, I don't believe she needs jail. Guys, we are different and we all know it, I think back and only want to thank my "teacher". I know right from wrong..always have...my parents taught me that, but mother nature was a whole different challenge when things started to ache and get active down there..

1911colt:: You mean that the guy in the sky came down to earth and told those MORTAL MEN just what to write and just what people said and just how we are supposed to live? I doubt it very much. Those guys wrote a very good fiction book.

agreed susie its a fictional book, but not a very good one. The guy in charge is very hypocritical. He is apparently older then dirt and knocked up an un-married "child", orders people to be killed, and a sh*% load of other crazy stuff. So this guy writes his own rules and breaks them too..thats something i just am not ignorant enough to follow..lmao...and please all you "god" freaks say what you will theres just no defending that crap and i won't be insulted (as much as you want to insult me you just can't do it..SORRY)