Jill Kelley: The woman near the heart of a scandal

The woman who triggered the investigation that led to the resignation of CIA chief David Petraeus threw lavish parties for top military brass – and also racked up debt. NBC's Kristen Welker reports.

Florida socialite Jill Kelley has emerged as a central figure in the growing scandal that’s ensnared high-ranking officials at the CIA and the Pentagon.

In the latest twist, U.S. General John Allen, commander of the International Security Assistance Force in Afghanistan, is under investigation for exchanging what officials describe as “inappropriate” emails with Kelley, a Tampa, Fla., wife and a mother of three daughters.

That revelation came days after the resignation of Gen. David Petraeus -- a family friend of Kelley’s -- from his post as director of the CIA over an admitted affair.


"This is something that's going to brand her for life," David Khawam, Kelley's brother, told TODAY. "My sister, number one, is a mother. OK, she has three kids. She's extremely dedicated to those kids. Number two, she's a wife. She's extremely dedicated to her husband. And he to her.”

Officials say Kelley’s complaint to the FBI over anonymous, threatening emails touched off the investigation that led to Petraeus’ resignation after officials uncovered an apparent affair with his biographer, Paula Broadwell.

ISAF commander Gen. John Allen under investigation over 'inappropriate' emails

Now, even the FBI agent who first heard Kelley’s complaint is under scrutiny, officials said.

Kelley and her husband, who is a surgeon, are close friends of the Petraeus family. Kelley, 37, was a volunteer social liaison to the MacDill Air Force Base in Tampa, where she often hosted parties for top brass. Kelley also has a twin sister, Natalie, who is a lawyer based in Florida.

According to a senior official, the investigation that led to Petraeus' resignation began several months ago when Kelley reported she had received anonymous harassing emails from a person she didn't know.

The FBI viewed the matter as a potential case of "cyber-harassment" and it was handled "regionally" with federal prosecutors working with the FBI on the matter, the official said. At first, neither Kelley nor the FBI knew who was sending the harassing emails because they came from accounts that were not immediately identifiable.

Petraeus revelation began as cyber-harassment probe; investigation ended 4 days before election

But the FBI was eventually able to determine they came from Broadwell. Investigators then obtained access to Broadwell’s regular email account, where they uncovered her email exchanges with Petraeus and an apparent relationship between the two of them, the official said.

The FBI agent whom Kelley asked to look into the emails she received was a friend and had no further part in the investigation, a senior law enforcement official said Tuesday.

The agent sent Kelley a photo of himself with no shirt, "as a joke, a gag" at least six months before she began receiving the troubling emails, the official said. There is, the official said, no indication that the relationship between the two was anything more than a friendship. Agents discovered the shirtless photo in her e-mails, resulting in an internal investigation into whether he acted inappropriately.

The FBI has declined to identify the agent.

A statement released late on Sunday on behalf of Kelley and her husband, Scott, read: "We and our family have been friends with General Petraeus and his family for over 5 years. We respect his and his family's privacy and want the same for us and our three children."

Frequently fundraising for the Wounded Warriors Project, the Kelleys socialized with Petreaus and his wife, Holly. In 2010, the Petraeuses watched the Gasparilla parade from a tent on the Kelleys front lawn.

Kelley's brother said he stands by her sister and offers his full support.

"The conversations I had with her were basically, that I love you and and we're here for whatever you need," Khawam told TODAY.

In a 1988 Philadelphia Inquirer feature, the Khawams are described as a Lebanese family that emigrated to Philadelphia in the 1970s. Among other activities, they ran a Middle Eastern restaurant called Sahara.

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Comment author avatartrouble1954Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community
  • All of this "misdirection" is not going to make the real issue go away for Obama....at the end of the day, after all of the "shirtless photos", "catfight e-mails" and "torrid affairs"......FOUR PEOPLE ARE DEAD.
  • Obama and his Administration are still going to have to answer about BENGHAZI, and all of these little side stories won't change that.
  • Obama, Clinton, and Panetta are all conveniently "unavailable" as they are out of country....but they will have to come back, and the hard questions about this coverup will STILL BE WAITING.
  • COUNT ON IT----this crew is not getting away with this massacre, no matter how many hot babes, and stupid generals they throw up to mask the truth.
  • 24 votes
#1 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:50 PM EST

Another wing-nut writing in bold, claiming Obama's to blame for these ridiculous general's who can't keep their willys in their pants... Yawn...Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  • 44 votes
#1.1 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:02 PM EST

Somehow I think you were not this concerned about dead americans after 911...3000 dead and people like you waved flags and cheered while bush deflected attention from his failure as CIC by attacking Iraq...

  • 29 votes
#1.2 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:06 PM EST

The election is over. Time to let the swiftboating go.

  • 25 votes
#1.3 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:07 PM EST

Oh wing nut, the affair started long before Bengazi and so did the investigation. Were you as worried about the more than 3000 dead on 9/11, thanks to Bush and Cheney? Have you watched Bldg 7 fall in a controlled demolition, indicating a conspiracy. Bldg 7 was not even hit, yet it fell into it's own footprint in 6.5 seconds, just like the Twin Towers, which took 10 seconds. They were all rigged to fall with nano thermite.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5A3dW_gUwOg

  • 7 votes
#1.4 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:10 PM EST

Trouble, I can see that you are a little annoyed about the current mishaps. Would you like to talk about it?

  • 7 votes
#1.5 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:11 PM EST

Oh wing nut, the affair started long before Bengazi and so did the investigation. Were you as worried about the more than 3000 dead on 9/11, thanks to Bush and Cheney? Have you watched Bldg 7 fall in a controlled demolition, indicating a conspiracy. Bldg 7 was not even hit, yet it fell into it's own footprint in 6.5 seconds, just like the Twin Towers, which took 10 seconds. They were all rigged to fall with nano thermite.

It's computer day at the psycho ward!

  • 14 votes
#1.6 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:20 PM EST
  • Not annoyed at all....he is my President.....for now
  • 

  • 2 votes
#1.7 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:21 PM EST
  • SO.....the timeline for all of this sordid information goes like this ?
  1. Spring 2012----FBI starts Petraeus investigation (but not Obama OR Petraeus' boss Jim Clapper)
  2. Summer 2012----Holder/Just-Us Dept. is told (but still not Obama)
  3. Oct. 26th----Cantor is told by the FBI (but wait, not The President)
  4. NOV. 6TH........ELECTION DAY
  5. NOV. 7TH----The Director of NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE learns that the CIA Director is under investigation
  6. NOVEMBER 8TH----2 DAYS AFTER THE ELECTION THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES LEARNS THAT THERE IS A MAJOR INVESTIGATION OF THE DIRECTOR OF THE CIA DAVID PETRAEUS, a mere 6 months after the investigation started....
  7. IS THAT WHAT WE ARE TO BELIEVE AMERICA ?????? (just so we are crystal CLEAR here....Robert Mueller, Eric Holder, Eric Cantor, Jim Clapper, and a host of FBI underlings and CIA minor players are ALL privy to this investigation for 6 months....but NOT the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES?)
  • 16 votes
#1.8 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:31 PM EST
  • ...and for all of you who want to label ME "wing-nut", I KNOW how much you want in the worst way to NOT believe that the timeline above is how it went down....LOL
  • Too funny....that's classic
  • Tell you what.....enjoy your day, this is just beginning to smell.
  • 10 votes
#1.9 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:35 PM EST

FYI: Cantor (a Republican?) was called by the FBI and knew about the "incidents" before Obama was informed. At that time no one thought it was a big enough deal. So much for your conspiracy theory.

  • 9 votes
#1.10 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:48 PM EST

Y'know, trouble, there's no need to get hysterical.

You come across as some kind of psychopath, shrieking to get attention.

  • 8 votes
#1.11 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:54 PM EST

@god: is this better ?

THE FBI HAD E-MAILS; Cantor only heard about it from another shirtless poser from the FBI, don't play games with me pal....you're wrong....

OBAMA LIED, AND PEOPLE DIED

See you at the impeachment hearings....

  • 11 votes
#1.12 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:57 PM EST

Many of us can imagine what those guys were thinking on the roof the annex, waiting for a gunship, a drone, a missile...anything to give them some backup...

all the while their commander-in-chief was getting ready to go play craps in Vegas even after hearing about their plight.

As a combat veteran, this guy makes me want to puke

  • 10 votes
#1.13 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:59 PM EST

@god: is this better ?

Yes, it is. Now more people will at least take the time to read it. But don't stop on my account, it's your comment ;-)

However, I'm really looking forward to the day you have your heart attack.

In the meantime, I can practically see your blood pressure rising as you type these stupid comments. That's extremely cool, we get to watch you die in real time!

The digital age... it's wonderful!

  • 1 vote
#1.14 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:00 PM EST

You're out of your mind. Will you RWNJ's never go away? I hope not,,, it makes you all look like fools.

  • 3 votes
#1.15 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:11 PM EST

Hey, trouble...ever look at the embassy attacks that took place during the Bush administration? Where was all your moral outrage (and caps...sheesh!) then? Oh, yeah...you didn't have any, did you?

June 14, 2002, U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan
Suicide bomber kills 12 and injures 51.

February 20, 2003, international diplomatic compound in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
Truck bomb kills 17.

February 28, 2003, U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan
Gunmen on motorcycles killed two consulate guards.

July 30, 2004, U.S. embassy in Taskkent, Uzbekistan
Suicide bomber kills two.

December 6, 2004, U.S. consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia
Militants stormed and occupied perimeter wall. Five killed, 10 wounded.

March 2, 2006, U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan
Suicide car bomber killed four, including a U.S. diplomate directly targeted by the assailants.

September 12, 2006, U.S. embassy in Damascus, Syria
Gunmen attacked embassy with grenades, automatic weapons, and a car bomb (though second truck bomb failed to detonate). One killed and 13 wounded.

January 12, 2007, U.S. embassy in Athens, Greece
A rocket-propelled grenade was fired at the embassy building. No one was injured.

July 9, 2008, U.S. consulate in Istanbul, Turkey
Armed men attacked consulate with pistols and shotguns. Three policemen killed.

March 18, 2008, U.S. embassy in Sana'a, Yemen
Mortar attack misses embassy, hits nearby girls' school instead.

September 17, 2008, U.S. embassy in Sana'a, Yemen
Militants dressed as policemen attacked the embassy with RPGs, rifles, grenades and car bombs. Six Yemeni soldiers and seven civilians were killed. Sixteen more were injured.

  • 13 votes
#1.16 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:33 PM EST

trouble1954

  • ...and for all of you who want to label ME "wing-nut", I KNOW how much you want in the worst way to NOT believe that the timeline above is how it went down

Personally I really don't care about what happened in Libya. I feel sorry for the family but things like this happen when you are in a country like that, or Yeman, or Iran, etc. I think our Congress should concentrate on the economy, creating jobs, and fixing our tax code. That is much more important.

  • 5 votes
#1.17 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:09 PM EST

brian , thank you..truth takes out the screwballs every time..

  • 1 vote
#1.18 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:30 PM EST

I am rolling in this. Bush is rolling in this. Mitt and Ryan are rolling in this and all is just begun.

Since his party will continue to cover all up, he will be like a crackhead, not knowing when to stop.

God Bless America. Some will see the recent 3 words more offencive no doubt.

  • 4 votes
#1.19 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:36 PM EST

As a country, whether there is a Republican or Democrat in the White House we will make errors in judging the terrorists. We will have soldiers and intelligence professionals who will have sexual affairs. People will die because our enemy is relentless.

But what bothers me is that there is potential that this Administration has covered up the events in BenGhazi, and Petraeus' affair for purely political reasons.

I can take that our fellow Americans died in pursuit of their objectives and at the hands of our enemy. I can't take being lied to, to win an election.

  • 5 votes
#1.20 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:58 PM EST

Love the comment about how she and her husband are soo dedicated to each other...would hate to have seen how their marriage turned out if there was less "dedication." Ohhh and sooo much for being "friends" with the General and his wife.

  • 4 votes
#1.21 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:24 PM EST

Hey, Trouble1954,

Ya know, under Obamacare, insurance companies are required to cover conditions like yours, wherever it falls in the DSM-IV spectrum, so you might want to get some help before you hurt yourself or others.

  • 2 votes
#1.22 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:28 PM EST

Do any of you setting up the straw man of the 3000 killed on 9-11 remember that it was Bill Clinton that had permitted bin laden to escape after suspicious activity? http://www.forbes.com/sites/henrymiller/2011/05/05/bin-laden-lived-to-fight-another-day-thanks-to-bill-clinton/

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4540958/ns/nbcnightlynews/t/osama-bin-laden-missed-opportunities/

9-11 was a horrible time; and all Americans I know were sickened about that. That was probably the last time that we as a nation were more united than we had been; and have been since that time. That being said, are you all saying - no matter who is responsible - that because of what happened 11 years ago.....

Are you saying that the 4 Americans killed in Benghazi in September, even after asking for additional help; that these murders were justified because of something they had no part in 11 years ago, and that our government had no responsibility to help them? My God, you people worship Obama, and are sick in the head. If it is alright with any of you "Defenders" of the object of your faith that this should go unexplained, remember how outraged you would be had it been Bush in Washington this past September.

CincyJoe, obamacare should also cover therapy for the sociopathic, as well. They're the ones that just don't give a rats' rear about anybody else but themselves.

  • 6 votes
#1.23 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:59 PM EST

Both Generals got caught by their zippers. At least the one resigned, but the other still lies. And Kelley is nothing more than the Socialite Slut of Tampa.

  • 2 votes
#1.24 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:02 PM EST

Lar--You can't take being lied to, to win an election?? Romney must have driven you crazy. The only time he told the truth was...um...let's see... well...NEVER!!

  • 1 vote
#1.25 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:48 AM EST

brian-2361724

Do you notice a trend in your timeline? As president Bush demanded better security at consulates around the world, loss of American lives went to zero in the ongoing attacks on American soil. No one attempted to call these attacks anything but what they were...terrorism and a war against America and our freedom.

Defense Secretary Panetta was in the White House meeting with President Obama during the Benghazi attack. Information mentioned here comes from Mr Obama's White House schedule and cross referenced with Mr Panetta's schedule. Hours had passed and calls for help went out of Benghazi to the State Department and DOD. Live feeds of the attacks were being watched in both of those offices. The administration's response was to deny support for our people under attack.

"Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but not their own set of facts." The worst thing anyone can do to a politician is hold them to their own words and actions publicly.

  • 2 votes
#1.26 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:57 AM EST
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So Broadwell writes a book called "All In." Up until now we're truly learning the double meaning behind her book title. I wonder what Kelly's inevitable book will be called!

  • 21 votes
#2 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:54 PM EST

Just the Tip!!!

  • 32 votes
#2.1 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:49 PM EST

Gary, EXXXCELLENT!

  • 8 votes
#2.2 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:07 PM EST

OMG Gary. I howled!!!

  • 8 votes
#2.3 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:22 PM EST

Outside of making for interesting Drama in the news?

Does anyone really care who is screwing who?

  • 6 votes
#2.4 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:52 PM EST

"Ow...my eye! That stings."

  • 1 vote
#2.5 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:53 PM EST

Why didn't this country send military aid to the people being attacked in Benghazi? It's beginning to sound like Obama was packing for a trip to Nevada and could not be disturbed and Petraus had his head buried elsewhere, and Hillary, well Hillary was just being hillary trying to decide which way the wind was blowing. How could the story be so wrong for so long? How come the American people can't get a straight answer on anything anymore?

I would really like to know why aid was not timely sent and who made that decision. whoever that was, they need to be dismissed from their position in the government.

  • 10 votes
#2.6 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:28 PM EST

"She's extremely dedicated to her husband" un-huh.. and plenty of others we see.

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#2.7 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:48 PM EST

Outside of making for interesting Drama in the news?

Does anyone really care who is screwing who?

I guess this is the FBI's idea of using our tax dollars effectively. They couldn't help get Osama, so they have tried the next best thing; take out an effective leader of the CIA. Well done, FBI. I'm glad we didn't use that money to, I don't know, create meaningful jobs or something.

  • 5 votes
#2.8 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:11 PM EST

The really sad part of this is that this story broke over Veterans Day weekend, now all week long is the famous question being asked: What didn't they know, and when didn't they know it? The real veterans got completely pushed to the side, and with all the sacrifices they have made. But I guess it goes with the first rule of our government which states: You play ball with us, and we'll shove the bat right your a$$.

I don't really care who was screwing whom, these guys and dolls play a game that is way above my pay grade, it's an old game, that any two, or three, or more can play, and when they are all finished, President Obama still won the election by 3 million votes, even if you figure in the Benghazi attack. We really need to get focused on the problems that face our country and forget the various meanings of the book tittle "All In". Aloha

  • 2 votes
#2.9 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:05 PM EST

Both Generals got caught by their zippers. At least the one resigned, but the other still lies. And Kelley is nothing more than the Socialite Slut of Tampa.

  • 5 votes
#2.10 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:03 PM EST

The REPUBLICAN SOCIALITE SLUT OF TAMPA. A Republican party fundraiser has described her as "active in the GOP social scene." An unfortunate choice of words, perhaps!

  • 1 vote
#2.11 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:32 PM EST

"My sister, number one, is a mother. OK, she has three kids. She's extremely dedicated to those kids.

Than WTF is she doing exchanging inappropriate emails with the generals.

  • 8 votes
#2.12 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:52 PM EST

The McRiburglar:

"How I Pimped For the Military"?

  • 1 vote
#2.13 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:54 PM EST

Looks like her job as social liaison at MacDill went beyond teaching things like Zumba dancing. Since her family recently came here from Lebanon, I hope they at least looked into a possible connection with Hezbollah, Delta Force, PLO, etc.. She was involved with military commanders, CIA Directors, FBI agents, etc.. This is a suspicious mix.

  • 4 votes
#2.14 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:22 AM EST

Can somebody explain to me why this 'individual' (for the lack of better term to describe her) has a 'honorary consul' plate from Florida? 1st of all, don't all the plates issued to the diplomats in the US are issued by the Dept. of State? 2nd, does this person knows the meaning of equal in front of the law? That diplomatic immunity does not apply to American citizens in American soil? And honorary consul for which country? South Korea? I don't see anything Korean in her to claim that title...

  • 4 votes
#2.15 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:15 AM EST

What is an "unpaid liaison"? Wouldn't she need a security clearance to hang around an active duty General? Didn't the General's staff wonder about an attractive 37 year old unemployed woman that hung out on the base with him?

The whole thing stinks and these Generals must not have been doing much work with all these distractions going on.

  • 4 votes
#2.16 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:30 AM EST

Okay. I'm a woman (obviously), and I find the two women at the center of this controversy absolutely disgusting. They're narcissistic, conniving, self-serving and just plain abominable. Not to say that Petraeus and Allen are exactly admirable. But these two (three?) women knew exactly what they were doing. They're nothing more than social climbing bimbos who care nothing about the families they have hurt and left in ruins. I hope they end up being scorned and humiliated. Alas, the truth is, they'll most likely make millions off the books they'll write. I won't be buying.

  • 6 votes
#2.17 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:16 AM EST

Jane H

Like all groupies, they will gleefully 'put out' to whomever they find themselves attracted - and I agree, the generals were not very smart or admirable.

  • 3 votes
#2.18 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:55 AM EST

Pandora: You bring up a point that I missed, no big shock there!! It may be a stretch, but maybe investigating her background, Kelley's, as well as possible links to whomever is a thought. For someone who is just a mom, 3 kids, married to a surgeon, she seems to have good access to higher ups... May be nothing, but in this day and age, who can say for sure....

She wil be branded for life?? Really? Well, guess she should have thought of all that before... We are still missing a piece here, maybe the FBI agent part, something.... I fell no sympathy for her, or her family.... You play, you pay....

  • 3 votes
#2.19 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:54 PM EST

Jane H,

From a man's perspective, I couldn't agree more!

  • 2 votes
#2.20 - Fri Nov 16, 2012 4:24 AM EST
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    Reply#3 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:59 PM EST

    eutimes...LMFAO

    • 5 votes
    #3.1 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:07 PM EST

    Is that like The Onion? Very funny stuff.

    • 5 votes
    #3.2 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:08 PM EST

    HOLY CRAP!!!

    Jerry, I mean this from the bottom of my heart: if this was intended seriously, please see a medical professional soon. You are obviously not mentally balanced my friend.

    • 16 votes
    #3.3 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:11 PM EST

    Man...those Europeans are more deluded than conservatives

    • 3 votes
    #3.4 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:20 PM EST

    I have hope for this country.....except when I read posts like this from Jerry.

    • 6 votes
    #3.5 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:28 PM EST

    Bwahahahahahah.....

    • 1 vote
    #3.6 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:14 PM EST

    LOL, the EUtimes has to be a Murdoch rag, that is the most insane conspiracy theory I have ever heard. First off if there was a coup, a sex scandal would not stop it, secondly, oh hell, my first point says it all, if you can stop a coup with a sex scandal then it wasn't much of a coup to begin with. Man you conservative trolls are grasping at any straw you can, just give it up, you lost the election and nothing you can do will change that.

    • 10 votes
    #3.7 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:38 PM EST

    Get Jerry Bruckheimer on line 2... we got a great new movie plot!

    • 3 votes
    #3.8 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:49 PM EST

    Nope. It didn't shed any light on this matter, but it certainly shed a lot of light on your mental state. LOL

    • 9 votes
    #3.9 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:31 PM EST

    That is one crazy website and the people commenting are just as crazy

    • 3 votes
    #3.10 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:59 PM EST

    This thing is not supposed to be a parody site, it is intended to be taken as "the real thing". This is just a nicely packaged site that gathers "news" from every right wing blog and agenda based website in the country. It has nothing to do with the European Union. It is pure trash.

    I would just advise being careful on this website. Make sure you have your anti-virus software running. At the same time I was at the site, I had an intrusion attemp and a "mystery" file try to download. No tip off, but my anti-virus caught it. Can't say for sure that is where it was coming from, but it seems plausible.

    • 1 vote
    #3.11 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:10 PM EST

    Newsmax, EUtimes. The Wall Street Journal, Fox are all no more than Murdoch right wing propaganda slags. Actually the Onion is far more respectable, and humorous. As soon as possible we need to revoke Ruppert Murdoch's American citizenship. He didn't earn it, it was given to him as a gift from a republikan congress. It's a disgrace that this fascist piece of garbage is allowed to use his ill gotten citizenship to publish and broadcast his lies and right wing crap. We GAVE it to him, we can TAKE IT AWAY !!!

    • 1 vote
    #3.12 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:02 AM EST

    jerryb-1604912

    Regarding your comment with

    http://www.eutimes.net/2012/11/obama-topples-top-coup-leader-after-washington-gunbattle/

    I'm surprised you beat Soph0571 and Ms CYPRAH in seeding this article. This is their kind of seed material.

    • 1 vote
    #3.13 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:44 PM EST
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    There is a possibility this is 2 coordinated honey traps set by these 2 women. Broadwell's maiden name was Kranz, a Jewish name and Kelley is allegedly a Lebanese Christian from Lebanon, named Khawam.

    The purpose would be to remove both of these men from their duties, in favor of one who would manipulate intelligence and bring about the war with Iran. We had such a person in the Bush years, named Paul Wolfowitz.

    There is too much cooincidence for this to be just a couple of affairs gone wrong. Both women positioned themselves to garner information and to bring about a change in command of the CIA. It kind of reminds us all of the Monica Lewinsky affair, which was the honey trap that may have set Marc Rich free, or perhaps the goal was a pardon for Jonathan Pollard. Monica was also Jewish and she initiated the contact with Clinton. Was she working as an agent for Netanyahu and Israel?

    • 5 votes
    Reply#4 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:05 PM EST

    Here come the conspiracy theories! If this was a coordinated effort then it was concocted and carried out by two of the dumbest conspirators who ever lived.

    • 15 votes
    #4.1 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:17 PM EST

    Ralph is probably right, this age-old trick has worked on some of the world's most powerful men on behalf of certain interests that will benefit from their fall. Next episode we'll find out.

    • 3 votes
    #4.2 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:35 PM EST

    That one sounds more plausible than Jerry's post above yours.

    • 3 votes
    #4.3 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:39 PM EST

    Oh please Ralph. That is beyond ridiculous.

    • 1 vote
    #4.4 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:00 PM EST

    Ralph, you're a moron.

    • 1 vote
    #4.5 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:05 PM EST

    Maybe the gals are running a high class "escort" service.

    • 3 votes
    #4.6 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:11 PM EST

    Or perhaps these women are just other versions of Monica Lewinsky and Linda Tripp.

    I wouldn't the PhD or the socialite too much credit in the critical thinking department.

    • 2 votes
    #4.7 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:18 PM EST

    Quick, somebody get RalphH back on his meds --- that's a conspiracy theory that not even Gretchen Carlson could get Steve Doocy to believe. Did you copy that one off of a Glenn Beck chalkboard?

    Here's my theory: this is all just a teaser to set these people up for a new reality show. They're going to put them all in a big house in Las Vegas with their spouses. Then half-way through the 3rd episode, they'll move in some of the Secret Service guys and their escorts just to spice things up.

      #4.8 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:04 PM EST

      Well, if Jews ARE managing to 'bring down' any leaders this way, they are only using our own misguided prejudice against us (that a person's private sexual matters have an impact on their ability to do their job).

        #4.9 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:07 AM EST
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        OK write a Book!!!!

          Reply#5 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:06 PM EST

          The WOman who takes down the US military. Who needs terrorists when you have these women.

          • 14 votes
          Reply#6 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:08 PM EST

          Who needs terrorists when you have men who fall for this stuff and think they are only one who will not get caught?

          • 18 votes
          #6.1 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:14 PM EST

          Totally Anita! And who needs terrorists when men continue to think with their little "heads"

          • 3 votes
          #6.2 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:07 PM EST

          With friends like her, who needs an enema?

            #6.3 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:18 PM EST
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            I can hear the jokes now........ Love triangle to LOVE PENTAGON!!!!!

            • 4 votes
            Reply#7 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:12 PM EST

            Or love panti gone

            • 5 votes
            Reply#8 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:13 PM EST

            "Volunteer social liason?" The military does not need "volunteer" social liasons - they have their own public and social liasons who are part of the commanding officer's or general's personal staff.

            • 13 votes
            Reply#9 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:14 PM EST

            Ah, but they do exist. I worked for the DoD for 27 years, and saw the "socialites" hang out at the Officers' Club with the Colonels and Generals, picking over who could get who ... and using them as a career boost for their private (non-Defense) careers.

            • 13 votes
            #9.1 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:29 PM EST
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            This just keeps getting better and better...

            • 8 votes
            Reply#10 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:14 PM EST

            jerry - that is incredibly interesting...and if actually true...then our President is in danger from traitors within the military cabal.

              Reply#11 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:14 PM EST

              Something smells fishy ;)

              • 2 votes
              Reply#12 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:26 PM EST

              I had several replies for that one but I even disgusted myself! :)

              • 5 votes
              #12.1 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:59 PM EST

              Joe, thanks for resisting mightily!

              • 3 votes
              #12.2 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:07 PM EST

              Hillary's in Australia, you can smell her that far away ?

              • 1 vote
              #12.3 - Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:15 AM EST
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              Ah, the "military social climber" who uses her wiles to get in tight with the top brass.

              This Kelley woman is a "Kardashian socialite", posing in her short black skirts and long black boots (in Florida, no less!) with various military. The infamous picture of her and her lookalike sister-in-law dressed the same, even tilting their heads in the same cutesy direction .... while posing with Gen and Holly Petraeus.

              What's HER game, besides killing the careers of three men so far?....although the friendly FBI agent likely deserves it.

              There's been one at Hill AFB for 20 years -- a realtor who's actually selling homes to the incoming military (out when they leave). It's very profitable. Chamber of Commerce, appointed to BRAC, and other high-visibility positions -- while civilians and military have watched and wondered "WTF"?

              I'll bet there's at least one of these climbers at every base, each with a different money angle. Anything for your 15 minutes, no matter how many careers are destroyed by your clumsiness and stupid emails?

              • 12 votes
              Reply#13 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:26 PM EST

              Man, that Kelly woman may have a small figure, but beauty in the face? Seriously, what is so beautiful about her face?

              Gosh if you prominent men are going to go down, pick a rock star why don't ya.

              • 3 votes
              #13.1 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:25 PM EST

              Yep, Kelley is a social climber for sure, equal to the White House party crashers. It sickens me. I do believe she was a dumb innocent tho, who got these crazy anonymous emails and got scared and told her friend, Mr. Shirtless FBI. Then once it all got elevated, WHOOPSIE!, what have we here?! a SENIOR official?! Oooh, this is good stuff! Dumb Broad(well) is the one who ruined the careers over her stupid jealousy, staring these emails. Kelley will writh with joy at the attention she will get. And yes, they exist at all installations. I agree!!

              • 6 votes
              #13.2 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:11 PM EST

              By the way, the timing of the supposed end of the affair seems to align with when Patraeus likely found out that Dumb Broad(well) was sending Kelley emails. Gen. Patraeus: "You Dumb Broad(well)!!! Do you know what you've DONE??!!"

              • 1 vote
              #13.3 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:20 PM EST

              I think it is time for a change in who is employed. Hire us older guys and fire the boys. If the secret service has time to stiff prostitutes (engage but not pay for services) and the CIA has time to be embedded, and the FBI can lose its shirt for a broad, then maybe we should seriously think about putting some adults in their positions.

              • 3 votes
              #13.4 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:48 PM EST

              Glenn: the difference between you and them? Nobody was looking... All the secret service agents involved in the affair were not 'rookies' but seasoned agents. I think that what they should do is to keep their part to their pants... I see no young kid getting an affair with the biography writer, not a fresh FBI agent sending shirtless pics to a climber... So, Glenn, you had your chance and you missed it. Move on...

                #13.5 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:23 AM EST
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                Why does it seem this reporter knows things he or she isn't writing? I mean, the article seems to revolve around a fact that we are never given!

                  Reply#14 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:28 PM EST

                  So Kelley, the victim of harassment, is now the "woman at the heart of the scandal"?

                  Yep, blame the victim. Always makes for a great headline.

                  • 1 vote
                  Reply#15 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:34 PM EST

                  Reports say she was not threatened.

                  Kelley used her connections to find out who was sending her emails (which most of us would have laughed at and blocked) and, with the sheer stupidity of doing that while having 20-30,000 emails from another general, ended up as the perp.

                  Did she think she was above approach? Hubris and disgusting.

                  • 17 votes
                  #15.1 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:37 PM EST

                  bingo!!

                  • 4 votes
                  #15.2 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:02 PM EST

                  Agree with Jombo...blame the victim...how classy.

                  Whether she used her connections or not, Kelley's conduct is not the relevant conduct here...Blackwell's (and/or General Petraeus's) is.

                  Oh, ps - might wanna improve your reading comprehension. Jombo didnt say "Kelley was threatened", but rather, "Kelley, the victim of [Blackwell's] harassment"....which is 100% accurate.

                  Blackwell, Petraeus's paramour, got pissed/jealous about Kelley's prior (above-board & long-term) friendship w/ the Petraeus family, and sent Kelley anonymized and harassing emails.

                  • 1 vote
                  #15.3 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:25 PM EST

                  If an FBI agent sent her a bare chested photo, there has to be a reason he thought it would be well received. Normal people don't do that in casual conversations.

                  • 4 votes
                  #15.4 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:38 PM EST

                  Who is kidding whom? Jill Kelley is no "victim"!

                  • 1 vote
                  #15.5 - Fri Nov 16, 2012 4:35 AM EST
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                  @Rick-546746, at least it wasn't Clinton in office. He would have been too busy with cigars and fat little interns.

                  • 4 votes
                  Reply#16 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:51 PM EST

                  Ah, Meg, another fossil living in the past.

                  • 16 votes
                  #16.1 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:55 PM EST

                  Get over it Meg. Clinton hasn't been in office since 2000, Carry a grudge much?

                  • 11 votes
                  #16.2 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:03 PM EST

                  Dear @-god, have you forgotten that your party has eliminated your relevance? You and your prayers don't belong here, or in schools, or.... LOL

                  Newsvine cracks me up, 98% (clearly unemployed) liberals who "collapse" anything, even logical discussion, that doesn't agree with you.

                  And @sara-3805603, look in the mirror and you and "yours" quit talking about Bush then! Your comment is a joke.

                    #16.3 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:26 PM EST

                    Mich0178: I rather have a sexually active president which moved the country forward to an impotent who created only a new section in Arlington National Cemetery and the worst economic crisis in US history... by the way, we vote for president, not for pope...

                    • 3 votes
                    #16.4 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:26 AM EST

                    lmao...good comeback Meg...yeah sure right

                      #16.5 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:54 AM EST
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                      As it stands now...so far as we are given information anyway, this woman apparently has nothing to do with the whole mess except she was dragged into it by the broad, Broadwell. And, it has nothing to do with Benghazi, other than Petraeus was the head of the CIA, so it's about as related as the car that just passed you on the street relates to you. Both on the same road and that's about it. Maybe she's a lowborn gutter slut and maybe she's on the up and up...sounds like Broadwell had a jealousy problem with her shmoozin' with the gen.

                      In any event, Petraeus just needs to tell all about Benghazi, I could care less about his drip trail or where he wet his willie. I guess Broadwell is a 4-star hotel and that's what it cost Petraeus to sleep there.

                      

                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#17 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:53 PM EST

                      Ummmmm...and what about the inappropriate e-mails this Kelley woman received from the other general? I'd say she is involved. This sounds like a military office party gone bad!

                      • 10 votes
                      #17.1 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:35 PM EST

                      Ha!!!! Jill Kelley is no innocent victim. Are you kidding????

                      • 2 votes
                      #17.2 - Fri Nov 16, 2012 4:38 AM EST
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                      There are men dead-with out need or cause. There were some VERY bad mistakes made and now are being covered up, or trying to be covered up. The first person to stand up, and be stand up, will come out of all this fairly intact. It will not be obama, by nature he does not have the balls. Hillary, so far has shown the most, but we knew all along she had a pair. These two generals? I guess that is what this is really all about, at least for me. Is there any morality, honor and integrity left, at all, in this country? Even the Dems in the Senate are pissed off at the whole situation-all the to the Oval Office. All this crap is symptomatic of the bigger problem. If you have to be told what that is-you would not understand anyway. Generals are supposed to get it-there have been three in my life time: Eisenhower, Patton, , and Norman Schwarzkopf. What would they think, I wonder? None of it has anything to do with either one of those women.

                      • 4 votes
                      Reply#18 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:56 PM EST

                      Eisenhower had his own affair (with his female driver IIRC). Did you forget that one???

                      • 9 votes
                      #18.1 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:16 PM EST

                      You don't even make sense. I thought your type usually trolls the right wingnut websites? I'd say you're a little out of your element here.

                      • 2 votes
                      #18.2 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:36 PM EST

                      Get a grip you idiot

                      • 1 vote
                      #18.3 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:05 PM EST

                      @sara, sara, sara, careful, using the word idiot could get you collapsed! Oh I forgot, you are clearly a lib so this "community" won't collapse you. Nothing @totherepublic wrote is "idiotic" in the least. They've ALL had affairs, no surprise there. He's talking about the fmr generals'understanding and focus on the important issues of the time (and not being caught in torrid affairs DURING these times) and things you clearly don't understand. Tard...

                      • 1 vote
                      #18.4 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:43 PM EST

                      totherepublic: Are you offended by the 4132 deaths from a search of non-existent WMDs? You do? When you bring me those responsible I will provide you with the responsible of these 4...

                        #18.5 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:28 AM EST
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                        Jill Kelley sounds like another housewife with nothing to do.....

                        • 2 votes
                        Reply#19 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:56 PM EST

                        Maybe she was a pro

                        • 2 votes
                        #19.1 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:47 PM EST

                        Wish it was Jill Kelly the porn star. Would have been much juicier.

                        • 1 vote
                        #19.2 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:55 PM EST
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                        The question I have, why does the 'shirtless' FBI Agent get a pass on having his identity revealed? That is far off the 'appropriate' path for any FBI agent or employee of our government, in the course of their official duties.

                        • 13 votes
                        Reply#20 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:10 PM EST

                        Good point. Although the possibility exists that they are investigating other cases he was involved in to see what else he messed up ... and if he had help. This story is so crazy, I don't think the Onion would print it.

                        • 3 votes
                        #20.1 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:00 AM EST

                        What you need to ask yourself if this was a desk agent or a field agent involved in other cases. Blowing his identity may jeopardize different investigations including his life. The other figures (4 star generals) were too public to hide them...

                        • 1 vote
                        #20.2 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:30 AM EST

                        yes because scooter libby isn't around anymore to expose real agents...lmao

                          #20.3 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:55 AM EST

                          Rick-that was a pretty stupid, 'I want to get my political jabs in' comment.

                          As the other folks noted, he may have investigations running, though I'm sure he's going to be going up before a disciplinary board.

                          • 1 vote
                          #20.4 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:23 PM EST

                          Rick-546746, Libby was convicted of obstruction, not exposure of an agent (who hadn't been covert for over 10yrs). Richard Armitage was found to be the one who connected/exposed her (Plame) with the CIA, but was not prosecuted as she wasn't covert. Apparently it wasn't much of a secret to DC insiders for some time. The fit hit the shan when it became public (that's us, the great unwashed), and like most incidents coming from DC, was done mainly for political and not security reasons.

                          • 2 votes
                          #20.5 - Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:29 AM EST
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                          So Jill Kelley calls an FBI agent for help--an agent who sent shirtless photos of himself to her even BEFORE this inquiry? And Broadwell was jealous of her? Sounds like Ms. Kelley has some 'splainin' to do.

                          • 12 votes
                          Reply#21 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:12 PM EST

                          Seems like quite the party--the Generals....and the ladies....

                          • 5 votes
                          Reply#22 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:13 PM EST

                          "Social Liaison." That's whatw e're calling it now?

                          • 8 votes
                          Reply#23 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:15 PM EST

                          Did anybody notice the story said, "In the latest twist, U.S. General John Allen, commander of the International Security Assistance Force in Afghanistan, is under investigation for exchanging what officials describe as “inappropriate” emails with Kelley, a Tampa, Fla., wife and a mother of three daughters."

                          They were exchanging inappropriate e-mails. That implies she was sending as well as receiving.

                          Doesn't sound like an innocent victim to me.....

                          • 17 votes
                          Reply#24 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:19 PM EST

                          I agree. There is so much more to this story...

                          • 10 votes
                          #24.1 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:37 PM EST
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                          SO WHAT about all this BS??? No Clinton supporters cared the prez was gettin BJ's in the oval office,,BIG DEAL someone had an affair,,lets fire all the morons that have had an affair or used drugs in our government,,OH wait,,you people on the left would lose your prez!! LMAO

                          • 3 votes
                          Reply#25 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:24 PM EST

                          What are you blathering about.

                          • 7 votes
                          #25.1 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:06 PM EST

                          Well, it would certainly clear out most of congress (on both sides)

                          • 1 vote
                          #25.2 - Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:21 PM EST
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