a few thoughts . . .

(1) my mother used to say, "be careful what you wish for - you just might get it;" Kelley started this - she's just gotten more than she bargained for, when she got the FBI to use its resources to investigate a half-dozen emails she didn't like. . . . and now she thinks she's entitled to diplomatic immunity?

(2) this is the 1% "that thinks it's entitled to stuff" . . . not the same stuff Myth Robme was talking about when he looked down his patrician nose at the 47% . . . . but it's a sense of entitlement that the 1% has, the expectation that they can use the government for their purposes . . . but they shouldn't have to pay the taxes that make 911, and other services like it, possible.

(3) people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones;

(4) the "charity" she ran was totally fake - it was just a front for getting other people to pay some of her expenses" for her lavish lifestyle - she should be prosecuted & make to pay the back-taxes owed.

(5) if a general has time to send 20,000 - 30,000 pages worth of email/documents, (over ~2 years,) I don't care what he said in them; I don't care if he was cheating on his wife, etc. He's lost his focus on his job, and he needs to be replaced . . . he has the lives of 1000's of our military in his hands . . . clearly he's more engaged in his "social life" than he is in leading soldiers and fighting a war. He's not immortal, or irreplaceable.

What is this mess doing to the moral of our men & women in uniform?

uuuggghh.

Glass houses. If you live in one don't throw stones. Broadwell threw one and Kelly threw one back so now everyone is throwing them.

Sounds like this woman and her sister are real charmers. You know, say and do whatever you need to get your selfish interests pursued. We can thank her for being stupid enough to blow the lid off everyone, including herself...

Honorary consul to South Korea?? Hosting military parties? Handing passports, but the State Department denies it? What in the Sam Hill is going on here???

This woman just LOOKS like the type that would sleep and suck her way into every inner circle she could. She looks like a cold, calculating ***t, that has already been discredited by a judge in testifying for her conniving sister.

Well done Derek.

I concur, this is like Kardashian meets U. S. military.

Her "occupation" reminds me of the young girls used to escort prospective football recruits on college campus visits.

@KJNC

In reponse to your #2 point.

I hope you realize that all the politicians, including President Obama, are part of the "1%" and thus subject to your sterotyping.

this is the 1% "that thinks it's entitled to stuff" . . . not the same stuff Myth Robme was talking about when he looked down his patrician nose at the 47% . . . . but it's a sense of entitlement that the 1% has, the expectation that they can use the government for their purposes . . . but they shouldn't have to pay the taxes that make 911, and other services like it, possible.

Exactly my thought, JKNC. You just can't make this stuff up.

I dunno. Obama got $400k last year to be President of the most powerful nation on earth.

Romney got $20.4 million to do... what was that again? Suck off Bain Capital for the 10th year in a row without ever showing up at the office?

Obama's income was 5% of Romney's. And I'd call being President "work".

This harpy is emerging as loonier than Broadwell. A psych eval is in order . . . oh, and pull her passport.

1down2togo - Her "occupation" reminds me of the young girls used to escort prospective football recruits on college campus visits.

Used to? Where are you from? Not most ACC conference schools. Those girls are alive and well!

Used to? Where are you from? Not most ACC conference schools. Those girls are alive and well!

He did not say that they used to, as in "formerly," and that they no longer do.

He said that the girls are "used to," as in "..reminds me of the young girls that are used to..."

lern2reed

This lady put herself in one big mess..next time honey keep your mouth shut (emails too).

Can we get these four on Jerry Springer? LOL

Would she be considered one of the 1%er's? How priveledged and special she is.

She is an unpaid liaison for General Allen, and does diplomatic work for S Korea, but is basically an unemployed homemaker. Is she supposed to be involved in all this goverment work? Who gave her clearance to be involved in these matters and why is there no oversight?

A nice butt shouldn't get you this kind of access and authority.

DIPLOMATIC IMMUNITY HAHAHAHAH

Isn't she just precious, folks?

So now she's possibly had an affair with Gen. John Allen, possibly some kind of relationship with the whistleblower FBI agent, and now potentially has some intimate "contact" at the South Korean embassy who is bestowing her useless ass with honorary titles?

Great line from the article: "In another call, Kelley said at least 10 people were blocking her alley so she couldn’t get into her driveway." Not to be crude, but with all these potential liaisons hanging about her I think part of her problem is that there's no one actually "blocking her alley", including her.

Funniest thing is she was the one who got the WHOLE ball of wax rolling on this whole thing.

Honorary Snob-Hoe. Congrats!!

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It used to be just "Sex, Drugs and Rock & Roll". Now it is: Sex, Military Brass, CIA Directors, FBI Agents, Lebanese (sexual) Liaisons, Consul Generalships, Diplomatic Immunity, Social Privilege, etc.. Boggles the mind to think of what else is coming down the pike. Have to think the Lebanese terrorists are rolling around in their bunkers sending out tons of "lol" emails on this. She took out the guys they couldn't even dream of touching. Now she is upset because the press wants to talk to her? Wonder when the big name lawyers will feast on this?

“My sister, number one, is a mother. She has three kids. She’s extremely dedicated to those kids. Number two, she’s a wife. She’s extremely dedicated to her husband. And he to her,” he said. “This is something that’s going to brand her for life.”

Whaaaa, I have no sympathy, she's the one who opened her mouth. The more I hear about this story and Kelley, she seems to be someone who thinks they have more importance in their own mind then in reality.

She does open her mouth but does not speak in front of "important" General people if you know what I mean.

Boobiegate ! The South Korean Ambassador gives her a " Honarary Title" at some DC party on the beltway so she would play with his egg roll. This is getting better all the time. If she had as many sticking out of her as she has had stuck in her she'd look like a porcupine. No wonder this country is in the mess it is. She has Lebenese ties and speaks Arabic. Hmm ? I don't know about the rest of you people but something just doesn't add up. Remember Mata Hari ? Boobiegate I tell ya, boobiegate.

Could there even be a bigger twunt than this self-important Florida hussy?

LOL

So both these generals involved help Kelley's twin sister out in a child custody battle, writing letters in her sister's favor when the judge found that sister to have "severe personal deficits in the areas of honesty and integrity." Then, she gets into some email cat-fight with one of these generals "biographers" and rats them out. Sounds like those traits her sister have might also be family traits.

I don't condone adultery, but I think those are matters between the families involved and not our government, especially when we allow a Commander and Chief to get away with the same such behavior. Stick to investigating the emails and determine if they are threatening, but I bet they'll find threatening emails sent both ways.

There is also the Middle East connection from Lebanon. We are technically at war and the law on this conduct is spelled out quite clearly. "Patriot Act" Send to Gitmo for interrogations of those involved. They used the auspice of the Patriot Act to review Emails in first place.

The truly bad part about this little soap opera is that this hussy and her sister and the author have combined to make life very difficult for people who truly just want to help our military. I imagine that for the near future, the women who made military life just a little bit more bearable at McDill and other military bases, the "community liasons" and others who helped will find it a little more difficult to do their volunteer work.

It is very unfortunate that the entire military will suffer this Thanksgiving and Christmas because these self important people decided that they needed the FBI to get involved in their little cat fight.

While there was nothing unlawful or illegal that has happened, the military likes to close ranks and shut out civilians whenever there are any potential issues. Such will be the case here.

If you are part of the military in Tampa, be sure to give Ms. Kelly and her sister a note of thanks for screwing up.

Dman ...

Honorary consul to South Korea?? Hosting military parties? Handing passports, but the State Department denies it? What in the Sam Hill is going on here???

Not to defend the indefensible (diplomatic immunity, really?) but the state department denied she was THEIR employee. If she is an honorary consul to South Korea, she's SOUTH KOREA'S problem. As to passports, who knows ... my guess it's more along the lines of helping secure visas, doing the right paperwork, etc. Lots of people do that sort of thing, some get paid, some volunteer. Same with hosting military parties. Many community people and groups surrounding military bases are also socially active on base with a goal of getting the two to work together (not always an easy task).

So, what the Sam Hill is going on? Sounds like a lady who is rich, dabbles in tasks to make herself a "prestige" position ... then abuses power. Not much new here, just caught.

So, it should be said I'm not defending her, BUT there are lots of good, well meaning people who volunteer their time to do just these types of things, and it's hard to see someone take away from that.

Meow...cat fight !! pu$$y cat? out for money $$

KJNC...

I enjoyed your post! All excellent points!! And yes... I always use this line when people get out of wack or make ridiculous demands... "Be careful for what you wish... you might get it".

Bob ..

There is also the Middle East connection from Lebanon. We are technically at war and the law on this conduct is spelled out quite clearly.

Please give me a citation that shows the U.S. is at war with Lebanon. I have found the quite to the contrary, in fact snce 2006, we've pledged over $1 billion in aid. Doesn't sound like we're at war to me. We have full diplomatic relations with Lebanon.

BTW: Here's MY cite: http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/35833.htm

(2) this is the 1% "that thinks it's entitled to stuff" . . . not the same stuff Myth Robme was talking about when he looked down his patrician nose at the 47% . . . . but it's a sense of entitlement that the 1% has, the expectation that they can use the government for their purposes . . . but they shouldn't have to pay the taxes that make 911, and other services like it, possible.

KJNC...You are absolutely right. I know...I work for 1%'ers, and they ALWAYS have their hands out for free chit. Tax evasion, always demanding free shipping, claiming they didn't receive product so they can get it again...pure theft. I tell the vendors to ALWAYS get a signature, no matter what. Pillars of the community my ass. This is the way they are, and I'm sure someone will defend this as good business...BULLCHIT! If theft is considered an honorable path here in America, it's time we took a long, hard look at the path we are on.

KJNC,

Thanks for laying it all out in rational, reasonable language!

SO let's coin this whole affair before the media makes on up -

How's Pu$$yGate??????

btw, the "love triangle" is made passe' by this crew.

I'd say Petraeus-Broadwell-Allen-Kelley-MrShirtlessFBI adds up to a "love pentagon"

Throw in the identical twin and you could have a "love sextangle"

This woman started out by using an FBI agent she probably had an affair with to try and intimidate Broadwell who sent her some emails she did not like. Now the entire thing has gotten completely out of her control and she is whining about it. It sounds to me like this woman is a manipulative bitch who tries to make herself sound far more important than she is and deserves everything she gets from here on out. She should be investigated for her manipulation of the FBI as well as her improper relationship with Allen. Her connections with foreign governments should also be examine in light of her association with senior military leaders to see if she has been involved in any kind of espionage - using sex to get classified information out of those senior military leaders that she could then pass along. Something about this woman and her actions just does not sound right and I think there is far more going on with her than we have heard about so far.

Beth: Two different sentences. A reference to the woman being Middle Eastern. The war on terror is ongoing by Bush Doctrine. Patriot Act was used in this investigation, otherwise they would have had to have a warrant.

Handing passports, but the State Department denies it? What in the Sam Hill is going on here???

Re-read the article. The passports are in connection with the South Korean consulate (i.e South Korean passports). Our State Department wouldn't be involved.

She is a honorary consul general and therefore has honorary immunity also. Whatever that is. Bimbos galore in search of power and money.

Bob - regarding the US being at WAR - could you please direct me to the Vote of Congress declaring war? Bush never ever requested a formal declaration of war. IN fact technically the US has not been in a declared war since 1945, our Presidents (Truman - Korea, Eisenhower/Kennedy - VN, Reagan - Grenada, GHW Bush - Panama and Gulf I and SOmalia; GW Bush - Afghanistan & Iraq) have taken us to war without ever getting a declaration of WAR.

And also we are currently not at war wit Lebanon and have had no military there since Reagan or FOrd (one of theose guys) was in office.

This has all the makings of a good soap opera.It's comforting to know that the upper echelon in the military are not smart enough to not get caught having an ex marital affair.

Hey cleaning lady,

She started this and now must reap what she sowed...

My mom used to say: You must like it, you asked for it. lmao

She certainly has been put in her place...uh miss importance.

Still laughing..

"Some of the steamier messages made clear that it was an affair. The besotted Broadwell may have viewed the curvaceous Kelley as a threat. Broadwell may be able to run a six-minute mile with Petraeus, but Kelley looks like a woman who lets the guys do all the running—and in her direction."

The Daily Beast

In other words, Kelley is a sl_t

Bob your implication was very clear ... the first time. And, btw, "technically" we are not at war at all, with anyone. That requires a declaration by Congress and that has not been done since WWII. Technically speaking.

Dick: Not even honorary immunity. Diplomatic immunity is only granted to foreign official rendering services to their respective countries/governments. An American citizen cannot claim diplomatic immunity in the United States. When you are at home, you are not exempt of following the law. And that can open the door to presenting charges of impersonating... (impersonating a government official to get benefits above the law?) What I want to know why in heavens the State of Florida issued a 'honorary consul' plate to this woman, the only organization to issue those types of plates is the Department of State, who is actually the one who verifies credentials of the foreign officials working in the US.

General Peterus must be hung like a horse; to bring out this type of response from a lady friend.

This whole thing is such a non-story. Petraeus is a liar and a cheater, end of story. The women, while not model citizens, have apparently done nothing illegal. Who the heck cares about Jill Kelley or her 911 call to get reporters off her lawn? I just don't get the pages and pages of non-news we're getting on this.

EXCEPT...I am convinced that this is meant to be a giant smokescreen to deflect attention away from Benghazi, about which we have nothing since Nov. 7th. The press is complicit in a huge cover-up here, and they are counting on the public's unending appetite for salacious scandals to distract us. From the sounds of these posts, it seems sadly to be working. Four people dead in Benghazi, and all we hear about today is Jill Kelly calling 911. Appalling.

Girls: Here it is.

Twenty months into his presidency, George W. Bush releases his administration's National Security Strategy (NSS). It is the first time the various elements of the Bush Doctrine have been formally articulated in one place. The 33-page document presents a bold and comprehensive reformulation of U.S. foreign policy. It outlines a new and muscular American posture in the world -- a posture that will rely on preemption to deal with rogue states and terrorists harboring weapons of mass destruction. It states that America will exploit its military and economic power to encourage "free and open societies." It states for the first time that the U.S. will never allow its military supremacy to be challenged as it was during the Cold War. And the NSS insists that when America's vital interests are at stake, it will act alone, if necessary.

Those are articles of war in anybodies book.

A war with Iraq to oust Saddam Hussein would be the first test case in the Bush administration's larger strategy for projecting U.S. power and influence in the post-Cold War world. Here's an overview of the people, the events, the major statements, and the policy battles behind what's become known as the Bush Doctrine. Time-line begins 1991. Information from PBS. Patriot Act / Homeland-Security / TSA combining all Federal, Military, and Intelligence under 1 controlling umbrella? Sounds, Looks, And Smells like WAR to me.

Holly: Read Second post where I explain two sentences. I guess Presidents don't need a vote to kill, and have our people killed in the hundred of thousands.

Now more than ever I want to follow the hearings on Benghazi.

I am so amazed that you people seemed consumed with tying the president to the attacks in lybia but yet refuse to concern yourselves with the vast amount of evidence that proves 9/11 was an inside job. The ambassador to Lybia and the 3 other people who were killed that night knew they were going to be in the line of fire when they accepted that assignment, they knew it was a very dangerous place, and House Republicans voted to reduce funding for security just months before so it appears to me this is either a non-story or you are looking on the wrong side of the aisle for a conspiracy. Why would the president put his own re-election at risk with this? But on the other hand, would this have made a perfect October surprise for the Republicans? I mean it would have been so easy for Rove and Adelson to pay some thugs to attack the consulate with all those millions Adelson was spending to unseat President Obama. And it nearly worked, I mean look at how horrible Romney was doing in the polls then magically as if out of nowhere riots erupted over a wingnut movie that was released. The timing was almost too perfect to be an accident. It truly stinks of a Rovian dirty trick and an October Surprise. Perhaps if you wingnuts are going to continue to push the issue then we might just have a little investigation of our own to see whose fat dirty little neocon fingers were pulling the strings. If there is one thing I have learned about conservatives over the years it's whenever they scream really loud about something it is to draw attention away from the fact that they are actually the culprit, from the "indoctrination of our children" to "voter fraud", if the wingnuts are blaming the liberals for it then you can rest assured it is the wingnuts who are the guilty ones. It's the slight of hand, they keep you busy watching the left hand while the right hand picks your pocket.

http://blogs.cfr.org/zenko/2011/08/15/u-s-national-security-strategy-rhetoric-and-reality

http://www.ifpa.org/pdf/IWGconfApr2012.pdf

This last one pay attention to Statement about Homeland security and synchronisation with foreign publics; pg. 5

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/national_security_strategy.pdf

Not just a casual observer "Spirit of America Participant".

I think Miss Kelly is letting her boobs doing the thinking for her and not common sense. She gives one the impression that she is a big time diva who is very jaded. So she was hosting parties for the big brass, yeah, I bet she was! And she is in debt up to her eyeballs. If her husband is a surgeon he must be making some major bucks. Of course, she is spending those bucks.

What she should do is try to whangle the title of Ambassador to the U.N. - - There will be an opening there as soon as Goober finishes sweeping up up all the dead bodies in his cabinet.

Being Lebanese should not be a problem the way things are going right now.

wow John you sure are lucky, all i ever get in my crackerjacks anymore are those stupid paper things....wanna trade for my yo-yo?.........its engraved....

Would that be Paul Ryan's yo-yo?

It just gets deeper and deeper.

shhhh....don't tell john....im going to tell him " Duncan" was a world famous astronaut.........

We had a local guy that claimed 'diplomatic immunity' in a traffic stop (he's of the 'black helicopter' persuasion) but he wasn't rich/connected, so he got tasered..... LOL.

More proof that money doesn't make you smart...

Hey John......nice shirt you're wearing. And I love those trousers.

I know this thing is quite entertaining, but I hope they dig deep into these two young ladies lives. I may be an old paranoid cold warrior, but this just smacks of old school infiltration. Let's not dismiss them before we check things out. They could be on someone's payroll.

John Browning what is your definition of young lady - the biographer is in her 40's

Hey, Holly... what is your definition of old...? LOL

These sisters remind me of the Kardashians. Manipulative losers.

40 is middle aged. Petraeus is 60, maybe to him 40 is young.

Things will be much better when the communists are in charge, right comrade?

No, Communism is just another extreme. Things will be much better when we take a good swing back to the middle and stay there.

Sorry, Doc, but those are darts in her blouse, not nipples.

A rare chilly morning in Florida!

Sorry, Doc, but those are darts in her blouse,

Killjoy..............

( we knew that BTW)

Them darts to a bullseye.

Husband is a surgeon. Nuff said.

not every woman is half plastic made in ca ya know....perhaps you been in frisco too long......

GA Scooter,

Yep, Dr Ta Ta came and fixed her and gave her a few pointers I bet it is Plastilux! Them chilly FL mornings have a way to show "party hats"!

lol... met any wives of prominent Miami surgeons, lately Scooter?

Favorite comment EVER!

CMT--Thanks so much!

So you might really get a kick out of this: NY Times, yesterday--

"Records show that Ms. Kelley and her husband, a doctor, have been subject to a string of lawsuits over debts, according to a report in The Tampa Bay Times, which said the Kelleys owed a bank nearly $2.2 million, including attorney fees, on a building they own. They also ran a cancer charity, which appears to be defunct. A 2007 tax filing, the latest available, shows the charity raised $157,284 that year, but spent just $58,417 on program services, described as conducting research to improve the lives of terminally ill adult cancer patients."

But here comes the caviar:

"Their parties, though, were the talk of the town. In February 2010, a gossip column in The Tampa Bay Times reported that Mr. Petraeus and his wife arrived escorted by 28 police officers on motorcycles to a pirate-themed party at the Kelleys’ home, to mark Tampa’s Gasparilla Pirate Fest, an annual event. Guests dined on lamb chops and crab cakes, beside hot dog and funnel cake carts, the paper said."

Today, the New York Post puts the debt at $3 million.

Too shabby, even for a private.

And Dave plays in this sandbox--by choice!

The Kelley's sound just like the couple who crashed the White House party. They too lied about there charitable contributions, their status in D.C. and were sued left and right for unpaid debt. The wife then was the a cast member of Housewives of D.C. And it was cancelled.

I doubt very much that she will be allowed onto the Army Base anymore either. I also wonder why the F.B.I. Agent didn't tell her that she would be investigated as well. They always investigate the person issuing a complaint to avoid egg on their faces because the person might be a nutcase, such as in this case.

Real Housewives of Tampa

Thursdays at 9:00 PM, 8 Central.

The Real Housewives of Sodom and Gomorrah Hades. Coming to a town near you, much to soon. Don't look back now, ya hear?

This must be what Bob Dylan was referring to in 1966's "Rainy Day Women #12 & 35 (Everybody must get stoned)", huh? Sing it, Bob:

Well, They'll stone you and say that it's the end
Then they'll stone you and then they'll come back again
They'll stone you when you're trying to fight a war
They'll stone you when you're sneaking in to steal Abdul's katar
Yes, but I would not feel so all alone
Everybody must get stoned!

Who knew Dylan was also a prophet on things to come? Here's the Tube:

Maybe the perfect soundtrack for this hot mess. LOL.

I just figured it out this woman is related to Donald Trump.

This whole thing is such a non-story. Petraeus is a liar and a cheater, end of story. The women, while not model citizens, have apparently done nothing illegal. Who the heck cares about Jill Kelley or her 911 call to get reporters off her lawn? I just don't get the pages and pages of non-news we're getting on this.

EXCEPT...I am convinced that this is meant to be a giant smokescreen to deflect attention away from Benghazi, about which we have nothing since Nov. 7th. The press is complicit in a huge cover-up here, and they are counting on the public's unending appetite for salacious scandals to distract us. From the sounds of these posts, it seems sadly to be working. Four people dead in Benghazi, and all we hear about today is Jill Kelly calling 911. Appalling.

Definitely a few bricks shy of a load. Makes you wonder about the judgment of the folks who didn't RUN the other way!

They all are, some are just a little more............off-kilter..............shall we say........

Ew. Just ewwwww.

got it, one vote against, rich good looking women. ( i espeacily like the "rich" part)....................

OK I'm going to bring it up Presidents meet with Generals, Generals meet with Presidents, want to bet they are searcnhing email for the name Obama?

Sorry Scooter I think Bill Clinton as the self-appointed healer of all things wrong has already interjected himself into the situation and offered her room and board (and a blue dress).

Scooter you are just bad... She brings plenty of baggage with her. Better watch your back...

Don't forget the cigar voter....

Scooter - she and hubby are reported to be $$3 million in debt. Hardly rich. And certainly NOT good-looking either. Man, do you ever have bad taste in women. Ish..

No that was it would help her get on her back in the work place;-}

hey hey now, i resemble ....er i mean resent....that remark.....

Now Julie we need something for the pedophile teachers and priest!

either this...or a storm...but on the bright side golf bores me so..............

try for a hole in one!

I am sure someone has already got a hole in one................

What I'm hearing from IA.Scooter he would like to hole in that one ;-}

Afternoon scooter and Jack,

Was this lady the O club humidor since when shouldn't get to the oval office in time for willie?

GA Tracy

Seems that the "lady", and I use that term very loosely, has figured out how to "hob da nob" but gets "prick"-ly when she's had as many Richards going in that she let her a$$ overload her mouth -literally and figuretively or was it vice versa?

I hear ya there Jack, nice call

This whole thing is such a non-story. Petraeus is a liar and a cheater, end of story. The women, while not model citizens, have apparently done nothing illegal. Who the heck cares about Jill Kelley or her 911 call to get reporters off her lawn? I just don't get the pages and pages of non-news we're getting on this.

EXCEPT...I am convinced that this is meant to be a giant smokescreen to deflect attention away from Benghazi, about which we have nothing since Nov. 7th. The press is complicit in a huge cover-up here, and they are counting on the public's unending appetite for salacious scandals to distract us. From the sounds of these posts, it seems sadly to be working. Four people dead in Benghazi, and all we hear about today is Jill Kelly calling 911. Appalling.

A General! After diging a Pres..

wow, please post links and proof, until then, meh

she's in love with herself, just look at all of her girlie poses.