Wow, sounds like your describing 9/11...2001! "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in United States" ring a bell? Bush tossed that report on his pile of brush at the ranch, as I recall. And those were attacks on American soil. That, my dear, is truly outrageous.

"...they should go after me." - Obama

Uhhhhhh...dude...ummmm, that's what they're doing here. This isn't about her personally, it's about you sending out your mouthpieces to lie and think you'll get away with it. They're not going to let that slide by without ramifications.

So you were there? You have such inside information, call the president now, and explain it to him, sandiego.

Her comments immediately after the attack give the impression that she is/was in on the cover up and promoting the "spontaneous attack" story, even though it now looks like the administration knew it to be false. There seems to be no one in this administration who can be trusted to do something as simple as tell the truth. Everyone's words are carefully contrived to shape opinion or deflect blame. Most of us would just prefer the simple honest truth and let the cards fall where they fall.

So Hudson, why aren't you holding Obama to the same standard that you apparently hold Bush to?

So Bush had reports that directly said that the towers were going to have planes flown into them? Sad and pathetic that you have to try and use false and incomplete stuff to try and redirect things because where they are headed is a place you can't face. That is what is outrageous.

We had reports of that embassy being targeted though. Those were ignored though. That is truly outrageous. We had a way to at least try to prevent that attack. Nothing was done to try though. That is truly outrageous. We had Bin Laden attack the U.S. before Bush took office, and on American soil. Nothing to chase him down was done. That is truly outrageous. You are willing to act as if Obama is a God and say he is innocent no matter what happens or what proof is given. That is truly outrageous.

@ hudson, There you go, defending the presidents administration with the word "BUSH" We are not talking about Bush here, we are talking about the current president and what was done or not done with the result in lives lost here, and all you can do is say, well so bush did this and bush did that. What the heck is the matter with you.

SANDIEGO1969: Please tell us ALL how you have this inside information about what happened even before there can be a hearing, and even before Congress knows?

This was a tragedy for the folks killed and their families. What is UNFORGIVABLE is blaming someone for this before the facts are arrived at. AMB. Rice simply repeated what she, the Congress, and the State Department were told. If your insider info is from Sen. Graham, what would he have said if HE had to respond on the same day Amb. Rice did?? Your zeal for a scandal is so obvious.

We all know that McCain and Graham are just a couple of D Bags that even the hard core right considers rhinos in their party.

THERE. WAS. NO. "COVER-UP."

Changing your opinion/mind, as new intel/information comes in is called "critical thinking"

The only place there is a "conspiracy" or "cover-up" is on Faux Noise.

Show me the WMD . . . . Bush lied - THOUSANDS died.

Key2joy,

You're so right. How about bringing Bushco up on charges FIRST since we all know without a doubt that he and his adminstration bungled the information... AND then they had the nerve to PROFIT from the war that they lied us into! Republican right-wingers are dispicable, and so hypocritical.

fielden - They are going after the President, remember he is responsible even if not directly. Who sent Susan Rice out to the talk shows, especially since she is UN Ambassador and does not answer to the CIA, Department of Defense or even the Secretary of State? We do know that the CIA and others knew this was a terrorist attack and not a spontaneous riot prior to Rice going out on the talk shows.

fielden, ummm yeah they are. The Republicans know she said what she did because that's what the White House told her to say. The don't fault her for saying what her boss told her to on some morning news shows. Perhaps if it was under subpoena they would, but news shows? Not a chance. However they do fault the White House for sending their mouthpieces out to lie to the public. This is about Obama, Rice is just a tool. It's unfortunate that Rice had her career tied to a tool like Obama.

Rupert Murdoch is making big bucks off of validating the fantasies of conspiracy nutsacks in the GOP.....

How about holding Ronald Reagan to the same standard as well when 264 US Marines got killed in Lebanon back in 1982? Or also holding Clinton to the same standard with the Blackhawk Down incident in Somalia when 18 Americans were killed..

I sure would like to know where all of these facts come from. I try to keep current but most escape me where others seem to find them in the same material.

Rice asked to be on 5 media outlets to tell her lie... FIVE! They didn't request it she did....! And lie she did.... telling anyone that would listen that a punk 15 minute video caused the deaths of our Ambassador and 3 other Americans!

Now she is up for a promotion! Go figure!

Can anyone deny there is a coverup and conspiracy to withhold the truth by the Administration? Benghazi is far worse than Watergate, yet we hear no outrage from the liberal media!

Hudson, nobody has to say anything. It's blatantly obvious. This entire article and SanDiego1969's post were about the Obama administration yet your response said nothing about him, only Bush. In fact you still haven't addressed the Obama administration, but again with Bush. As for selective outrage I'm going to make the educated guess you were looking in the mirror when you threw out that accusation.

SANDIEGO1969: Please tell us ALL how you have this inside information about what happened even before there can be a hearing, and even before Congress knows?

That's easy - Limbaugh and Beck told him all about it. ;)

The GOP loves beating dead horses....this one is called "Benghazi". Not too long ago it was called "running a low campaign", "college transcripts" and "birth certificate".

GOP = Obstruct anything important and focus on conspiracies!!!!!

It didn't work for you during the election...and if you keep at it...you will fail again!!

This indignant Obama act is going a bit too far. His problem is he thinks he is smarter than anyone else, classic narcissistic behavior. Susan Rice was lying her ass off at the WH's direction and so was Petreaus for some unknown reason. Petreaus probably didn't know the WH was going to fire him a month later.

Then Obama goes in the Rose Garden on 9-12 and now says he called Benghazi terrorism. Why did he go on a bunch of shows and proclaim it wasn't terrorism after he now says he said it was terrorism on 9-12.

The Obama foreign policy is nothing more than a clusterf#@k of contrasting fairy tales. The same thing happened when the Navy Seals killed bin Laden. Everybody in the administration was bending over taking bows while they told different versions of events. Professionals would have let the DoD tell one version and leave it at that. There are good reasons Obama is called The Amateur.

To Mike SA, John and their ilk:

I'd say the main diff between 911 and Benghazi is that on 911, the whole country stood together against an attack on our country. The dems didn't showboat and place blame on the admin. It was all of us and it was a beautiful thing that the country joined together. Perhaps president Bush's administration dropped the ball. But the dems didn't try to make political hay. The country stood together!

When Benghazi occurred all we get from the Republicans is criticism of our government. Perhaps president Obama's admin dropped the ball. But instead of standing together against an attack from the outside... From the git-go, all we hear is them trying to make political hay out of this horrific event.

Disgusting!

Republican obstrucionists prove, yet again, that they have NO desire to solve problems,...

Just restrict any confirmations on "That Ones" appointments.

Their phony outrage never looks back to the failings that led to a true NATIONAL failing like September 11th; but requires that the President personally protect four individuals on foreign land.

Anyone with a minor grasp of the situation sees this for exactly what it is - the DESPARATE need to knock President Obama off his game. By hook or by crook, they don't care.

And they CLEARLY don't care about the Ambassador or the other three men. Just pawns in their Scorch the Earth campaign to hate the President and his appointees.

The comical part here is where they claim they will block his appointments. This is NEW strategy how, exactly? Hasn't that been their MO since January 20, 2009?

The losers here are the GOP, new party of Bitter Pills.

The GOP wants a Watergate panel for Benghazi, but didn't want one for 9-11-2001, Iraq WMD, Valerie Plame or for Abu Graib?

Hey Job1, regardless of your political leanings to call John McCain a d-bag is just outrageous. Here is a man who spent years is a North Vietnamese prison, being starved and going through the horrors of torture while in the service of his country. You couldn't carry his jockstrap. Ingrate.

Disgusting is letting your Libyan ambassador and three techs get murdered. Obama may have won re-election, but he'll go down in history as a failed president, unless he puts up a realistic budget, fixes the deficit he blew up, declares a truce on class warfare and stops being a moron on foreign policy.

I am getting so bored with these Anti-American Republicans calling for investigation after investigation of everybody that's not in their party. It's total BS and a waste of taxpayer money. They started with Whitewater, and all they got was a blow job, and it's continued ever since. Anybody keeping score of how many of these investigations have actually resulted in more than tarnishing the reputations of hard working and dedicated public servants? Seems it's about 100 to 0. It's like they're trying to get revenge for their getting their pants pulled down at Watergate back in the 70's. STFU and start supporting you government. Maybe even try passing some legislation for a change instead of playing to the cameras.

To those of you who claim to know the facts and claim the administration is not telling the truth, please refer to 9-12-12 report on Benghazi from Reuters correspondent Hadeel Al-Shalchi.

This is from someone who was there, on the ground, in Benghazi. Unlike you, unlike me.

An excerpt follows:

Accounts from Libyan and U.S. officials, and from locals who watched what began as a protest on Tuesday against a crudely made American film that insults the Prophet Mohammad spiral into violence and a military-style assault on U.S. troops, point to a series of unfortunate choices amid the confusion and fear.

The actions of Libyan former rebel fighters assigned to help guard the lightly fortified compound may also face scrutiny. Libyan officers suggested that sympathy for the popular anger at the slight to their religion, as well as simple fear under heavy fire, meant the guards may have done little to defend the walls.

Much remains unknown, notably the extent to which armed militants may have prepared in advance for an attack as opposed to merely profiting from the opportunity of an angry crowd spinning out of control in a country where guns are everywhere.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/13/us-libya-ambassador-assault-idUSBRE88C02Q20120913



Obama is correct. It's an Outrage that the GOP is attacking Mrs. Rice, But it not an outrage the four American kill and Mrs. Rice said that the cause of their death was due to a video. An Outrage is not telling the American public the truth Mr. Obama.

weusall
I would love to visit all 50 states in my lifetime (even the stupid confederate ones)... but, Lindsey, if you're still in power when I die, I will consider 49 good enough.

If you follow Obama around you can go see 57 states, with a few left to see.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws

Anyone have any source or citation to any CREDIBLE NON-PARTISAN, SUBSTANTIVE evidence of an intent to mislead or cover up by the Obama administration. Anyone???

Sarah, I guess plain incompetence is better than flat out lies?

Simple. Investigate it. Let the chips fall where they may. All of us speculating who might get it is over blown. If Obama offered up Rice knowing he was feeding her lies to feed to the public, then that will come out - and she's toast. He can bluster, but it will be his fault if he set her up.

If not, she'll be confirmed.

What's the problem? That's what confirmation hearings are about.

The bigger drama is if the "CIA Annex" (whatever that means) populated by non CIA ex Seal "contractors". Were they doing things we've deemed illegal, and who know about it? Is that why we didn't send troops there. That's the battle that raged hours. The ambassador was already dead. But these guys might have been saved.

Did we deny support for American citizens because they were engaged in illegal activities at an illegal CIA facility at our behest? I hope not - on all counts. Because if its true - it will be an equal opportunity career ender - R or D. Anyone who knew about it is toast - including Eric Cantor, Petraeus, or the President.

Sarah-

Why, nearly a week after the attack, did the CIA provide senior administration officials with talking points that portrayed the Benghazi incident as a spontaneous attack fueled by an anti-Islam video?

• Why was the consulate so unprotected and so poorly guarded, when the CIA had an “annex” manned by dozens of agents less than a mile away?

• What did Petraeus learn from a late-October trip to Libya, and why has the report he is said to have written after the trip not been made available to congressional intelligence leaders?

• Did Petraeus’s affair with his biographer, and then the complications of an FBI investigation, ever pose a national security threat or in any way have an impact on the CIA’s response to the Benghazi attack?

This is directly from Congress.

One Question Sarah do you have a family member in the military? If so, What would you have said if it was your brother in one of those shoe?

all you people are most likely lousy at your job or make mistakes etc....

wasting tax dollars on all these stupid investigations...the main reason is that politicians want to smear each other at our expense...why NOT simply say we will have new protocol from the lesson learned...no that would be too easy and cheap....

Sarah....This will be investigated thoroughly, not because the WH wants it, though. They tried to sweep a dead ambassador, two dead Seals and a dead CIA agent under the rug, hoping nobody would notice the level of sheer incompetence.

So Obama says the Whitehouse sent Susan Rice out to the talk shows to explain Benghazi (even though he also said she knew nothing about it - "so come after me, not her"). Obviously the Whitehouse knew what Rice was going to say and it has been proven multiple times from multiple sources that the "video" reason was a lie. So 1+1=2 The Whitehouse sent out a pawn to tell lies about the Benghazi attack. Ther can be no doubt about it now that the President admits it!

The personal attack on Susan Rice Outrageous?

No, Mr. President. It should be on you, because you made the UN Ambassador go out on News Programs 5 times humilating this woman,, and told her to lie---"The Film Lie".

She is not fit to fill a Secretary of State Cabinet Position. How will the American Public ever believe her "next" story when there is a calamity of huge proportions. It's all about "Lies", and more Lies, still coming to what he thinks is a stupid American Public.

She doesn't deserve this important decision, because now her Credibility has been ruined. All she did was follow your Orders.

Put her somewhere else, that has nothing to do with the Fragility of our Foreign Affairs--There is Chaos, War, The Petraeus Scandal never really explained, the constant War in Afghanistan. The Military will take her credibility very lightly, and so will other Leaders of Countries. They don't like being lied to either.

Fire her--she is baggage to your Administration. Start with a Clean Slate for Cabinet Positions. You don't owe any of your friends anything, Mr. President. Americans want a strong, unbiased Leader.

Just telling the Truth.,

Why was the UN Ambassador commenting at all on the acute situation at the Libyan embassy? That's not her job nor her expected area of expertise.

soxfan said;

Hey Job1, regardless of your political leanings to call John McCain a d-bag is just outrageous. Here is a man who spent years is a North Vietnamese prison, being starved and going through the horrors of torture while in the service of his country. You couldn't carry his jockstrap. Ingrate.

While I wasn't there (hadn't been born yet) and my Dad, who served in Nam, isn't around to ask questions of anymore, I hesitate to put McCain on a pedestal. According to several veterans I've talked to, McCain committed treason by giving information to the enemy:

During his 23rd mission over Vietnam on Oct. 26, 1967, Lt. Commander John McCain was shot down by a surface-to-air missile.

To relate the event, McCain later recalled that he was "flying right over the heart of Hanoi in a dive at about 4,500 feet, when a Russian missile the size of a telephone pole came up--the sky was full of them--and blew the right wing off my Skyhawk dive bomber. It went into an inverted, almost straight-down spin. -U.S. News and World Report, May 14, 1973 article written by former POW John McCain

"I pulled the ejection handle, and was knocked unconscious by the force of the ejection--the air speed was about 500 knots. I didn't realize it at the moment, but I had broken my right leg around the knee, my right arm in three places and my left arm. I regained consciousness just before I landed by parachute in a lake right in the center of Hanoi, one they called the Western Lake. My helmet and my oxygen mask had been blown off. "I hit the water and sank to the bottom . . . I did not feel any pain at the time, and I was able to rise to the surface. I took a breath of air and started sinking again." -U.S. News and World Report, May 14, 1973 article written by former POW John McCain

After bobbing up and down, he was eventually pulled from the water by Vietnamese who had swam out to get him.

A mob gathered on shore and McCain was bayoneted in the foot and his shoulder was smashed with a rifle butt. He was put on a truck and taken to Hanoi's main prison.

After being periodically slapped around for "three or four days" by his captors who wanted military information from him, McCain called for an officer on his fourth day of captivity. He told the officer, "O.K., I'll give you military information if you will take me to the hospital." -U.S. News and World Report, May 14, 1973 article written by former POW John McCain

McCain was taken to Gai Lam military hospital normally unavailable to American POWS. (U.S. government documents)

"Demands for military information were accompanied by threats to terminate my medical treatment if I [McCain] did not cooperate. Eventually, I gave them my ship's name and squadron number, and confirmed that my target had been the power plant." Page 193-194, Faith of My Fathers by John McCain.

Nov. 9, 1967 (U.S. government documents) Hanoi press began quoting him giving specific military information.

One report dated read, "To a question of the correspondent, McCain answered: 'My assignment to the Oriskany, I told myself, was due to serious losses in pilots, which were sustained by this aircraft carrier (due to its raids on the North Vietnam territory - VNA) and which necessitated replacements. From 10 to 12 pilots were transferred like me from the Forrestal to the Oriskany. Before I was shot down, we had made several sorties. Altogether, I made about 23 flights over North Vietnam.'"

In that report, McCain was quoted describing the number of aircraft in his flight, information about rescue ships, and the order of which his attack was supposed to take place.

And I personally don't like him considering he was one of the authors of the highly-controversial indefinite detention clause of the NDAA for FY2012.

S1867/NDAA sections 1031-1033 basically will give our government the right to have our military indefinitely detain anyone suspected of terrorist activity without charge or trial, American citizen or not, anywhere in the world, on home soil or off. And it's not just limited to anything directly affecting America--it's anyone accused or suspected of terrorist activities against American allies too, which can be interpreted to include conflicts that don't even involve America. The NDAA also gives the department of Defense $600 billion to implement these changes with.

Senator Carl Levin (D) and Senator John McCain (R) wrote it, allegedly in secret, and it was sponsored into the House of Representatives by Representative Howard McKeon (R). The House of Representatives passed it in May 2011, 32-96, and the Senate passed it on Tuesday 93-7.Since the two versions of the bill are a little different, they just need to reconcile it and send it to President Obama to sign. Obama has said that he is going to veto it, but Congress can override the veto with a 2/3 vote.

Indefinite detention without charge or trial is clearly unconstitutional since the Constitution states that 'No person shall be deprived of life, liberty or property without due process'. Therefore, in my opinion he is now also committing treason by violating his oath as a public official to uphold the constitution.

Such sniveling, drool dribbling losers here complaining about an obvious slip of intelligence and nothing more. Where were you when Bush/Cheney misled our nation into a stupid costly (blood and money) war over a "slip of intelligence"? Four dead? How about a few hundred thousand dead if you wish to count the innocents too? You guys are disgusting.

er I mean freedom cries.

Sarah,

I can give you a perfect example that proves Obama is a liar.

During the 2nd Presidential debate, Obama specifically stated that the called the attack on the Benghazi consulate "an act of terror" and attempted to claim that he and his administration knew it was a terrorist attack.

Anyone who watched the debate knows this.

If that is the case, why did Obama and his administration continue to say it was a "spontaneous riot" caused by a controversial film clip that denigrates the Islamic faith...and continued to play that card for over a week after the attack?

Regardless of any other information that comes out, this is more than enough proof that this administration is engaged in deceitful practices. After all, why would you continue to claim the act was "spontaneous" if you KNEW it wasn't?

I know politicians lie as a matter of course and are rather pathological about it on both sides of the political aisle...but this is absurd.

@ Sarah;

They never show one lie straight from the president. I have asked for weeks and not one has shown me one lie, with source or quote. lol

All I get is he said it was the movies fault.lol

Obama does not even mention the film once in the rose garden speech. His speech to the U.N on Bhengazi only states that the film "caused an uproar in the ME" never in either speech does he blame the film directly. Nor does he state one lie.lol His speech at the Rose Garden was eloquent and moving, and provided solice to the families that did not want this as an issue in the race.

How many on this vine bashing Obama would go against the advice of two generals in the area and your SOS, to not send troops in?

Im guessing not many. I bet Obama did want to do something, but you do not rebut your generals and SOS advisement in an unkown fluid situation.

Sarah...everybody in the consulate was murdered. Don't you think somebody screwed up?

Hey Hudson3324

How's this for pathetic, Good ole wiley Bill Clinton's screw up on Bin Laden

In his stunning 2003 book Dereliction of Duty, Air Force Lt. Col. Robert “Buzz” Patterson, a presidential aide and carrier of the “nuclear football,” describes President Clinton’s gross irresponsibility toward national security. Patterson tells how, in the fall of 1998, the watch officer in the White House Situation Room notified the president’s national security adviser, Sandy Berger, that they had located bin Laden and had “a two-hour window to strike.”

Here is Patterson’s chilling account:

Berger ambled down the stairwell and entered the Sit[uation] Room. He picked up the phone at one of the busy controller consoles and called the president. Amazingly, President Clinton was not available. Berger tried again and again. Bin Laden was within striking distance. The window of opportunity was closing fast. The plan of attack was set and the Tomahawk [missile] crews were ready. For about an hour Berger couldn’t get the commander in chief on the line. Though the president was always accompanied by military aides and the Secret Service, he was somehow unavailable. Berger stalked the Sit Room, anxious and impatient.

Patterson continues:

Finally, the president accepted Berger’s call. There was discussion, there were pauses – and no decision. The president wanted to talk with his secretaries of Defense and State. He wanted to study the issue further. Berger was forced to wait. The clock was ticking. The president eventually called back. He was still indecisive. He wanted more discussion. Berger alternated between phone calls and watching the clock.

The dithering continued until it was too late–and bin Laden lived to fight another day. And to plot the Sept. 11 attacks.

the president said Rice has done “exemplary work” and accused GOP critics of trying to “besmirch” her reputation.

Mr Obama, if you don't want somebodies reputation "besmirched", don't send them out to lie for you! A$$h0le

MR. President were is your transparency? Enough with the lies. Mrs. Rice is not fit for the Job. If she lie the first time she'll continue to lie for you Mr. President.

Not heeding the warnings very plain to see and securing or removing our people is a massive failing of the current administration. Certainly not the first time an administration has failed to heed warnings. But defending this failing by pointing out another still doesn't make either situation right. All it points out is the our government fails to learn from its mistakes regardless of who made them. But failing to heed the warnings is one issue, coming out with a known to be bogus story on why it happened can never be tolerated or justified. The Obama administration stuck to a story they knew full well was false, and that is as egregious as it gets.

It would appear that the people comparing Obama's use of intel and Bush's use of intel are hypocrites. Bush went to war based on intel that there were WMD in Iraq. Obama released statements on the embassy attack based on intel. You support Obama's use of intel , but not Bush's (and may I remind you, Bush had the support of the congress and the senate based on this intel). Before you go spewing your hate, decide if you are planning on having your cake and eating it too.

John,

Sure, someone COULD have @!$%#ed up. OR, @!$%# could have just happened like it's happened under EVERY POTUS, throughout the entire course of not only our country's history, but the whole 40,000 years of human existence.

Wisdom,

The words Obama said, are not evidence of anything except what he said.

The Libyan people know who did it and went after them. This is just another GOP witchhunt.

The militias, a legacy of the rag-tag popular forces that fought Qaddafi's regime, tout themselves as protectors of Libya's revolution, providing security where police cannot. But many say they act like gangs, detaining and intimidating rivals and carrying out killings.

Militias made up of Islamic radicals like Ansar al-Shariah are notorious for attacks on Muslims who don't abide by their hardline ideology. Officials and witnesses say fighters from Ansar al-Shariah led the attack on the U.S. consulate, which killed Amb. Chris Stevens and three other Americans.

After taking over the Ansar compound, protesters then drove to attack the Benghazi headquarters of another Islamist militia, Rafallah Sahati. The militiamen opened fire on the protesters, who were largely unarmed. At least 20 were wounded, and there were unconfirmed witness reports of three protesters killed.

Earlier in the day, some 30,000 people filled a broad boulevard as they marched along a lake in central Benghazi on Friday to the gates of the headquarters of Ansar al-Shariah.

Libyans storm militia in backlash of attack on US - CBS News

The fake Benghazi "scandal" is just another FAILED Republican conspiracy theory....

Gold Bars, I think it was pretty clear to most Americans that this was a terrorist "9/11 anniversary attack" by Jihaddists. There is nothing fake about our ambassador's dead body being dragged in the streets of Benghazi by Islamic radicals. Seeing the Administration sticking to the Internet video as the cause, and it being a spontaneous mob for several weeks was in insult to all American citizens. The Ambassador asked for additional security and it never came. He died due to the lack of response from the administration.

To make this issue a personal one about Rice is the wrong thing to do. Somebody told her to stick to the video story, she just followed orders, but from who? That is where the focus of this issue should be on.

As far as the Fast & Furious, if the president & Holder had nothing to hide, why plead executive privelage?

Some voters in Philadelhia were intimidated by the New Black Panther in front of the polling entrance dressed in paramilitary garb and holding a billy club. that is not a conspiracy theory, it is reality. If he was hanging out at my polling entrance I am sure he would have been asked to leave as he was blocking the entrance, loitering etc.

I would have loved to see him try something with me at my polling location.

pzphiml

So Bush had reports that directly said that the towers were going to have planes flown into them? Sad and pathetic that you have to try and use false and incomplete stuff to try and redirect things because where they are headed is a place you can't face

Pzphiml; look up the name Sybil Edmunds, the Bush clan couldn't bulldoze ground zero fast enough. Bin Laden denied any connection to 9-11 repeatedly, and what about those fake (black bearded) Bin Laden tapes the Bush clan put out. Now lets talk about the cover up of Pat Tillman, and lastly; Bush sealed more documents than all other Presidents combined.

The GOP wastes more money fighting windmills than they do helping Americans - pure evil party IMO. Let it go - we have much better things to do than play tit for tat. Grow up GOP...you didn't learn a thing from your Ken Starr money dump.

Where can the rest of us get jobs where the GOP gives us millions to waste on things that won't change the outcome? Are GOP headquarters in Salem Mass?

I bet Obama is porking Susan Rice. Seems like there are many in his administration porking women other than their wives.

Sarah - I can make that assertion, here's how. Since the attack at Bengahzi we've heard a series of comments from the administration- the first two weeks stating that the attack was because of the video, then an evolving statement towards terrorism. Next we learn that the attack took place over the course of 7 hours and that no support was provided to those in the compound and later at the safe house. We've learned that there were available forces in the region, we've learned that there were requests for help, and we've learned that the CIA agents in the area were told by someone to stand down and not get involved. We've learned that the State Department chose not to spend their allocated $100 million in embassy security upgrades and did not act on the intel they received around Sept. 11th, the local intel that Steven's was sending on growing militant actions in Libya, the issue of disappearing arms in the area (why the two seals were there), and Libyan reports of a likely attack soon. We've learned that there were drones in the area watching events and sending real time video back to the states. We've learned from former CIA personel that there are specific protocals regarding attacks, where the emergency calls go, whom gets to know about them, whom goes to situation rooms to watch, etc. so clearly there are measures that take place once any situation arises of value. We've learned that post the attack the US didn't attempt to control the compound and that Steven's papers were found by media visiting the site two weeks later. We've heard of a formal investigation and that the US is seeking the apprehension of people involved, but a reporter weeks later found a local boasting of being involved and interviewed him (not running from the US).

So to answer your question: If there is a national security protocal to identify, review, and coordinate personel during an emergency (including video and direct communications with the ground), then over the course of 7 hours the White House should have known that the attack was a bit more than an uprising using large forces and sophisticated arms. Yet someone put Ms. Rice out in front of the media making consistant statements on the administration's position, Secretary of State Clinton did as well, as did President Obama- eventually speaking to the UN. Then SOS Clinton claimed responsibility for the mistakes, but the President took the blame away from her. Then the blame was shifted to the CIA again, and so on and so on. Yes, I don't think there's anything less then keeping the target shifting to cover butts and set up cover to put before Congress. Now Petraeus is put out there as having affairs (while the FBI apparently knew about them while vetting him for his CIA directorship) and isn't going to testify (or be trusted when he testifies), SOS Clinton is in Australia "resting" and can't make it, etc. etc. people are suddenly not available. Not good.

clara: When the "solutions" have proven time and time again to be destructive, the only alternative is to stand against them. Considering Obama has gotten 99% of what's he's sought, you'd think the economy would be booming now and the world would love us. The only thing he hasn't gotten is raising taxes on the job producers. His thought is that obviously taking money out of the hands of those who create jobs will create more jobs. It's amazing that it is this 1% that is holding the economy up.

As for the Bengazhi thing, it's 1,000 times worst than Watergate (where no one died) and yet we are to reward the big lie that it is the US's fault for the murder of our Ambassador?

Toxic Chemist said:

There is nothing fake about our ambassador's dead body being dragged in the streets of Benghazi by Islamic radicals.

He was not dragged through the streets by radicals. The people of Benghazi found him in the consulate and pulled him out of the building, then rushed him to the hospital where he was pronounced dead of smoke inhalation.

Ever since President Obama came into office the Republicans have waged a campaign to destroy his Presidency. Doing harm to the US in the process of their idiotic plans. Now that the American people have spoken and he was re-elected President with a FU to the Republicans. Its time for them to stop,or be stopped.

more than 200 US marines died...in 1983 due to a terrorist attack...but Reagan has since become a Republican hero??

Snivel, whine, snivel, whine. You'd think these guys just got their collective asses kicked or something.

Oh yeah, they did!

Does ANYONE care what McCain or Graham think?

Oh no, they don't.

Any chance they will start acting like they are for America?

Probably not.

sandiego1969 Comment collapsed by the community

What is outrageous , sir is the death of our ambassador

These "ambassador's," don't they put themselves in the line of fire by accepting these posts? Who are they, Jesus Christ? They are no more human, and damn sure no more better that Soldiers who do the same. He was in a volatile region known for terrorist acts, and he's dead. OK, so are thousands of my Soldiers.

Sen. John McCain added: "We owe the American people and the families of the murdered Americans a full and complete explanation, which for two months the President has failed to deliver."

It's been almost twelve years since you, McCain, and Bush, Cheney, and your crew submitted my Military to an illegal invasion, and un-necessary war in Iraq. Twelve years, have you given those FAMILIES a "full and complete explanation" of those MURDERED Americans?

John, you best give up trying to have an adult conversation with Sarah, or any other liberal that hasn't realized they messed up giving obama another chance to f.u. America! Over 48% of the country know America's circling the economic drain.... the rest are sheeple that can only hope their government checks keep coming in...

Rice had nothing to do with the security in Banghazi AT ALL.

What is outrageous is that in the depths of their Obama-hatred and racism, Republicans go after a decent woman with nothing but a manufactured claims of a non-existent cover-up.

McCain and Graham disgraced themselves today and showed the country why Republicans are on the way to the ash heap of American history.

Obama, why did you flat out lie repeatedly to the American people about Benghazi? Why did you instruct your minions to repeat the lie for nearly 2 weeks? Lucky for you, ABC, CBS, & NBC turned a blind eye to this obvious lie or rest assured you and Michele would be house hunting in $hitcago. Had this issue got the attention it deserved, easily 5% of the fools who voted for you would have made an educated choice for Romney. Too late now, we're stuck with the worst case of buyers remorse since way before Facebook went public. Also shame on all you so-called enlightened libs for covering for your a$$wipe commander and chief. Oblivious or indifferent to Obama's lies, PATHETIC!

Silly Republicans these kind of Trix are for kids

WHY was an ambassador at a consulate on the 11th anniversary of 9/11/01 in the first place? Why was he not at a relatively safe embassy? Why would he go out on such a day with so few security personnel? Wasn't there many demonstrations about that crude film during the same time in many other cities and countries? Could the actual terrorists have conjured up these demonstrations as a cover for their attack? Why was embassy security funding cut? Who was the first congressman to dream up this cut in funding? Why was it Libyans who arrested many of these terrorists shortly after? Why did they apologise for the attack happening in the first place? Why was there reports that the Ambassador was dragged around and even raped? Isn't it true he died of asphyxiation caused by fire? Isn't it true Libyans tried to help the Ambassador when he was found still breathing? Why do they call it the Grand Old Party when there isn't anything grand about it at all anymore? Why is when the first comment is collapsed the who thread goes down? Why is it people seem to hate the first amendment? I will copy this an post it in another thread...

Did the press ask the President any follow up questions? Will the press ever do their job or will they just keep reporting the kigs proclamations?

Bush had to answer questions from Helen Thomas and all of the other press but I never see this president answer questions just give statements and speeches.

My earlier post -

more than 200 US marines died...in 1983 due to a terrorist attack...but Reagan has since become a Republican hero??

...loss of all the marines was bad....and the recent loss of our ambassador is bad enough... but unfortunately, many conservatives have tried to score political points, instead of uniting behind our president in time of tragedy - I have to question these conservatives' patriotism and judgment.

-Ambassador Christopher Stevens

-Sean Smith

-Tyrone Woods

-Glen Doherty

Rest in peace my brothers...

I hear all the redneck states want to secede--GREAT!! Don't let the door hit your arse on the way out. I hear many in the south still fly the confederate flag.

We don't need bigoted, racist, selfish, angry, do-nothings hanging around. Form your own country with your military dictatorship government. Then, good luck surviving without the government handouts you're so used to getting.

For crying out loud, I wish the GOP/TP would stop with the chronic criticism of everything with this Administration and start being part of the solution to some things instead of just adding more weight and burden to every single issue.

Stop pointing Repub/Tea Party fingers and get to work the divisive issues within your own Party.

moshuluu, #1.83--- the best comeback question yet!!!

Toxic Chemist - Amanda is correct.

Republicans, the references to Bush and 9/11 are valid and appropriate because all of this started there. After 9/11 the country and world came together. Then the war in Iraq killing thousands of Americans and tens-hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis. Any complaints about that unfunded and unfounded war of choice were met with accusations of non-partiotism / hating the troops. Typical republican propaganda. Now that the profiteers have profited and the deficit has exploded due to these wars and following economic crash on Republican watch, every move by Obama is vilified - even though he is the one who gtook on this piece of crap from Bush/Cheney. If Obama is so incompetent, wy couldn't McCain/Palin beat him in 2004? And if Obama is so incompetent, why couldn't Romney / Ryan beat him in 2008? Obama was President and ran a winning campaign, while Romney the great white hope had only one job, the campaign, and FAILED. And Karl Rove's explanation - the Dems obstructed the vote - lol The standard Republican propaganda is to blame the other side of what you do.

Republicans should be ashamed on not being able to beat Obama since you all think he is so pathetic? Look in the mirror if you want to see pathetic.

9/11 , several embassy attacks, two unfunded wars - hundreds of thousands dead, major economic crash and no Bin laden under Bush/Cheny.

Wars ending, Bin laden dead, economy recovering, and no more pre-existing conditions under Obama.

And despite every hateful unpatriotic (treasonous) attempt to foil this President, he is re-elected and make promise.

So, who is going to be seen as the failure in the history books??

The ongoing lies and deceit by this administration is now getting to the point of absurdity !

One time they tell us they cannot answer questions because of an "ONGOING INVESTIGATION", but that does not prevent them from postponing any such "results" from the investigation until AFTER the election is over.

Then, of course, we have Rice, Hillary Clinton and Obama all trying to convince us of the fairy tale that it was caused by an anti-Mohammed film clip ... one that few people have apparently ever seen ! Why would they all LIE and LIE REPEATEDLY if they truly didn't know the truth ??

The real truth appears to be "the TRUTH" is they wanted to hide and cover up the reality of what happened because of an impending election that Obama just had to win ... at ALL costs !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

John - You folks are going to hold on to the Benghazi issue like grim death, aren't you? I am sure that if there is anything to your groundless accusations, fools like Graham and McCain will make sure not to ride this half dead horse to the bitter end. You guys lost the election and you don't know any more about the situation than any one else so - suck it up and STFU.

The dumbocrats would defend their righteous savior to the grave even if he walked into a local mall and randomly shot 100 children.

They would find some way to blame Bush.

No we Republicans WILL NOT let go of this horrendous LACK of judgement on the part of your "oh so perfect and mighty" grand savior Obama and all of his inept lackeys.

Impeach Obama and FIRE Rice.

Hillary did the right thing when she quit, and SHE KNOWS IT!

I read recently where Texas is petitioning to secede.

I have an idea...

Why don't we all start a petition to charge McCain and Graham and all the people that are saying the same thing they are with Treason? Why don't we create a petition to deport them, strip their citizenship, and banish them for being treasonous, unpatriotic, subversive anti-Americans?

By the standards of the Greedy Obstructionist Party, they've done far worse than Natalie Mains did when she said she was "embarrassed that the President is from Texas" and they all clamored for her to be charged with treason! They all jumped up and demanded her group's records be banned (and in many instances, held "Dixie Chicks CD Burning Parties"!) Natalie Mains suffered death threats, and was said on the floor of the U. S. House of Representatives to have committed treason.

McCain and Graham (and many of you other nutjobs) are saying far worse about the President of the United States, and so you all ought to be charged with Treason and deported.

I'm disgusted by the huge amount of vulgar criticisms of the sitting President I see now.

Vile, slanderous tirades made by the same people who were horrified and aghast over the comments made by Natalie Mains. You want it both ways when it suits you. I don't see the first right-winger here vilifying anyone for slandering the President of the United States. Instead, they all kept repeating the totally discredited statement that he is not a natural-born citizen, that he's a muslim, and that he is not the President. You think we're all stupid, and you tell us so constantly.

Well, people… You can’t have it both ways. You cannot demand that Freedom of Speech only applies to you, and your opinions.

Freedom of Speech is when you can stand up and defend at the top of your voice, someone else standing up and screaming at the top of his or her voice, that which you would spend a lifetime opposing.

You want Freedom of Speech? Then you damn well better start defending MY right to state my opinions and beliefs, without interference, denigration, demeaning labels, insults, name-calling, or your vile and hateful disdain.

Defend that.

Instead of sniping and snarling at those of us who believe in a having a more fair, more open, and more populist government, why don't you find a way to shut your hateful mouths and stop subversively obstructing the President of the United States? He won the freaking election, both in the Electoral College AND in the Popular Vote. And that is that. A one-vote win would have been a mandate. Period.

The lot of you spent the past four years standing up and screaming that you wanted to do nothing else but make the President a failure. You never once ever said you wanted to do anything for the good of the country, and you fought tooth and nail to work against the better interests of this great nation, based solely on ideology. That's treasonous, subversive, and just about as anti-American as you can get.

If you don't like what's happening in the United States right now, you have two choices:

1. You can put your petty political ideology aside and start working in support of the President.
2. You can move your sorry butt out of the country.

I hear that Afghanistan and Somalia are nice this time of year.

Either way, you are NOT part of the solution, you ARE the problem.

The Greedy Obstructionist Party is doing everything they can to accelerate the failure of the United States of America, and they're doing it based on one thing: Ideology. That is as unpatriotic and treasonous as you can get.

How can you claim to love America, when you clearly hate the average American?

I wish you republican bytches would just leave like you said you would! Oh I forgot you bytches are all talk and no walk!

blaisepascal

And you Dumbocrats can't spell or work for your living.

You also have poor tastes in "leaders".

Theo

Apparently the president cared or he wouldn't have gotten upset about the matter in the news conference.

That Pattern has been consistenly sweep the matter under the carpet.

Note: A reporter revealed that Patraeus asked if the Reporter wanted the "Official" story or the truth.

Didn't hear that one did you. I haven't seen this in print yet, but we should see that soon.

I love me a nice witch hunt! Obama again? We been trying to burn that sum b*tch forever! I know; lets brun him for not turning into Superman and flying on over to kick Ben Ghazi in his azz and saving them 4 folks. Fire burn and cauldron trouble, I heard he had sex with the General too!

Her Pig

more than 200 US marines died...in 1983 due to a terrorist attack...but Reagan has since become a Republican hero??

It wasn't a cover up.

Who in the hell is defending Bush I’m not and I voted for Bush. This isn’t about Bush it is about Obama and his administration lying about this whole ordeal and I voted for Obama first time around. Just because Obama says there was no cover up doesn’t make it true.

Use your brain and look at what was actually said and I think you will understand the outrage. There is no doubt in my mind there are many liberals that see through this and don’t support what is happening. As I said above, I voted for Bush, he was the main reason I voted for Obama because of his “cowboy” attitude.

I am smart enough to separate fact from fiction and I would encourage all of you to do the same instead of showing support just because you are an Obama fan. Wrong is wrong it isn’t dependent on who is responsible for this tragedy. If it happened to be a Republican President and he and his administration we telling lies would you still support this debacle? I am guessing you wouldn’t.

Ole DucknDodge Obama.... what a joke and the media is even a bigger joke for giving him fluff questions and allowing him to play them. His opportunities to speak are just that, another open ended show us your community organizer speaking skills. Talks for hours on end and says absolutely nothing. Hillary is about the only person in his administration with an ounce of respect.

Sarah-3043284

John,

Sure, someone COULD have @!$%#ed up. OR, @!$%# could have just happened like it's happened under EVERY POTUS, throughout the entire course of not only our country's history, but the whole 40,000 years of human existence.

Four American civilian fed employees were murdered in their service to our country. If you can't admit the government effed up, you are so far in the tank for Obama that you are hopeless and in denial of reality.

@John;

Then tell us John how did Obama himself screw up? The dangers in Bhengazi were increasing by the day, they had already been granted more security in Feb, and April. They were told a thnjird requwest would not be granted before they asked. They asked anyway and I cant blame them, but do not sit here and tell us tghe extra security was not granted because it already had been twice.

Even Wood the former security liason there said that he did not think extra security would have made a difference that night. Do you know better than him John. Now tell us how Obam screwed up.

Okay, once again, slowly.

Stevens never asked for more security for the consulate in Benghazi. He asked for, and was denied, increased security for the embassy in Tripoli. This decision was made by a mid-level bureaucrat in the State Department.

When Ambassador Rice was on the Sunday morning talk shows, she was reporting from the most current CIA briefings. At the time she was speaking on television, she was giving the most correct and up-todate information available. (The same information given, by the way, to the House and Senate committees on foreign affairs and national security, so McCain, Graham, et al. know they're lying.)

The CIA still doesn't believe that this was a well-planned attack. They believe this was a budding terrorist group that was looking for a way to make a splash. They were well-armed in the wake of the civil war in Libya. They saw the demonstration in Cairo over the video and, in light of the date, 9/11, decided to use this as the opportunity to launch their vile attack. They were trying to get noticed by Al Qaeda or Hezbollah or somebody.

No American support troops were sent in because Libyan security forces were already on the ground defending the consulate and there was a fear that friendly fire casualties would make the situation worse. 10 Libyans died defending our consulate.

The paranoid rantings on Faux News and by Rush Limbaugh et al. are clearly partisan snipes at the President. They lost the election and were flabbergasted that their propaganda over Benghazi didn't swing things their way. They seem to be most concerned that the President didn't use the word "terrorism" enough. Apparently, he should have said "terrorism" in every sentence and raised the threat level to Orange.

This is a nonsensical witch hunt stemming from nothing more that sour grapes.

And by the way, there are many, very many, of us in red states that are embarassed and saddened by the ignorant, racist ravings of our fellow citizens that are calling for secession.

MarkM012

So I guess you support the same thing for XPres. Bush. He originally said that they had WMD, but I read somewhere that he knew that they did not & wasn't there a report that said he had knowledge that they wanted to attack us on our soil.

I am sorry that the ambassador & the 3 others died, I am sorry that thousand of our soldiers & thousand of innocent people died in 2 unfunded wars, let the committee that checks into this, do what they are paid to do. None of us were there either in Benghazi or in the war room with President Obama, none of us really knows what was seen, written or told about it at the time it happened & instead of throwing accusations, theories & going on a witch hunt, give it time to tell it's story.

And while were are waiting, why not spend it helping the american people, isn't there a financial cliff that everyone should be working on.

What is it with republicans and their witch hunts? Why can't they just accept defeat gracefully? We went through this the whole time Clinton was in office. Now, we're having to go through this the whole time Obama's in office. If they want to investigate something, maybe they should investigate their own damn party. Bush and Cheney come to mind.

Mike from AZ

Thank you! One of the few sensible comments I've read on here.

I'm glad the republicans have decided to work together with the winning party to solve America's problems. Its about time.

But damn, he sure dropped gay marriage like a hot potato!

http://abcnewsradioonline.com/politics-news/obama-tells-mtv-he-wont-push-gay-marriage-in-second-term.html

Obama Tells MTV He Won't Push Gay Marriage in Second Term

FEEL USED YET????????????????????????

President Obama told MTV viewers that when it comes to same-sex marriage and climate change, it would be up to future generations of Americans to implement meaningful reforms.

When asked if he would use his second term as a platform to overturn the federal ban on gay marriage, the president demurred, saying he viewed it as an issue for the states to decide.

“But for them to go after the U.N. ambassador, who had nothing to do with Benghazi and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence that she had received, and to besmirch her reputation, is outrageous.”

Besmirch?

BESMIRCH?!?!?!?!?!

Did Barrack Hussein actually say "besmirch"?

Isn't that cute. What a tough guy huh? Standing up for his incompetent U.N. Ambassador while he completely ignored Ambassador Stevens pleas for security.

I guess the poor Ambassador didn't fit into any of the class warfare memes Barrack Hussein has been promoting to pander to all the useful idiots for their votes. Maybe if he was a 30 yo middle class, female, professional student, that needed free contraceptives and was a Big Bird fan he could have gotten some protection.

This president is an abject failure and embarrassment.

They would find some way to blame Bush....

Blame Bush? Sorry. You bought it, you own it. Ain't no warranty in the world that's gonna reimburse you for the previous owner of a used vehicle. Obama owns all of it, and all he can do is either fix it, or let someone else more adept take over.

The GOP loves beating dead horses....this one is called "Benghazi"

Lol...yeah. Do the letters "WMD" ring any bells? I've seen those initials right here in response to the first comment. Talk about beating a dead horse! And beating that dead horse with a lie at that!

Libs are still using Bush as an excuse for everything Obama does, yet everyone is supposed to just forget what happened weeks ago because it reflects poorly on the messiah...just incredible.

Gee, what a coincidence. Anyone notice how whenever a president enters his second term, the other party starts throwing crap against the wall to see what they can make stick? Usually resulting in some ultimately petty scandal that distracts the country and immobilizes the administration for the rest of it's term?

Nixon/Watergate

Reagan/Iran-Contra

Clinton/Monica Lewinsky

Bush/Weapons of Mass Destruction

Now with Obama just re-elected a week ago, they are trying to play the Libyan Embassy murders, and figuring out if they can get any traction out of Gen. Petraeus affair.

It must be a standard play from the political play book. Anything to distract us from the real serious issues, like the economy, the looming tax increases, the budget deficit.

The republicans aren't doing anything that the democrats don't do, yet we fall for it over and over. Time to wise up and make these people tackle the problems we elected them to work on.

It is just too bad that people like you don't have anything to do,but constantly attack the president, and

his administration. We are sick and tired of your ignorant, empty racial remarks. President Obama

has been elected to run this country for the next four years. The people have spoken. Not only

did he win the electorial votes in a land slide, he also won the popular votes. Now, that should

tell you what the country really wanted, and made sure that we got it. Stop your none sense, and

do something to elevate your thinking, because each time you write something that you think

will cast disparity on the president, you demonstrate just how lacking you are in your high

order thinking skills. Get a life, and do something for the great works of the world to be done if

your little pea brains will function at least that much for you.

Just another sad attempt by the sore loser Republicans to try and deflect the fact that their party is a mess and being kicked to the curb. They really should be focusing on righting the ship so they can maybe be a player again. But no, they would rather chase shiny objects hoping they'll find that smoking gun to bring down the President. Good luck with that. The real American people, not the traitors who want to secede, will get real tired of this real fast.

As I've said before the "Real Story" isn't the BeTrayUS Affair".... The Real Scandal is what Paula Broadwell claims to be a Secret CIA Prison in Benghazi and what Obama knew about it beforehand.

Mr. President....doth protest too much, methinks~William Shakespeare

Has anyone else noticed how the closer we get to Barry's "Crimes" the more of a Temper Tanturm he throws like a petulant child?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmh-4vQ0_Bc

Since a lot of you "Pr Corporate Posters" do not seem to have bothered to "Educated" Yourself on this "Subject" please allow me to assist in "your" research before you make even further fools of "yourselves"!

Here are a couple of links where BeTrayUS's Main Squeeze Paula Broadwell "spills the beans" on Benghazi-Gate and the Secret CIA Prison....

http://www.digtriad.com/video/default.aspx?bctid=1966903720001

http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/tygrrrr-express/2012/nov/13/general-petraeus-and-other-naked-body/

And here's how "Obama" covered up these "Crimes Against America" before the Election to benefit his Re-Election Campaign and is trying to!

http://news.lalate.com/2012/11/12/paula-broadwell-david-petraeus-being-used-for-cia-benghazi-cover-up/

Now even the British "Corporate Media" is trying to "Blow Smoke" for Obama! Isn't it "Funny how the UN Globalist love Obama?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2231203/Barack-Obama-David-Petraeus-Was-relationship-discovered-FBI-months-ago-hushed-election.html

Sorry Barry but "No Amount" of "No Story Here Folks, Move it on Move it on" posters are going to cause this "Scandal" to go away so....

Impeach Barrack Obama 2012....At least Richard Nixon had the Honor to Resign!

"The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history." ~― George Orwell

Uh oh. Seems the Republicans have taken up the invitation of the Wimp in Chief to come after him.

After Sen. Graham slaps the Boy Blunder around for his failures and cowardice, let us see how Barry look.

GOP in Congress: block him, boys, block him!!!

"Great-job,-Brownie"

"Anyone who leaked CIA names to the press will be fired from my administration"

"The prescription drug plan for Medicare will cost about $400 billion"

"Iraq has weapons of mass destruction"

"Mission accomplished"

"I am the decider"

Text of an Email I sent Senator McCain:

Dear Senator McCain, I saw your comments on the senate floor this afternoon concerning the Benghazi incident and for the first time in my life was compelled to write an elected official. Sir, I found your comments deeply offensive and an insult to principals of American fairness. Rather than go on a witch hunt, you would have better served your fellow Americans by suggesting an independent non-partisan investigation. Instead, you chose to politicize a tragedy. It would appear that you have already passed judgement. Have you? If so then present your evidence clearly and concisely to the American People and at the very least comport yourself like the statesman you portend to be.

Rice Lied, People Died.

This woman went of FIVE Sunday News talk shows and claimed with a straight face that the "Video made them do it". I saw one of the shows. We now know that the White House was aware this was an act of terrorism days before Susan Rice was trotted out to tell tall tales.

Senior diplomats need credibility. That's really all they have. We expect a hack like Jay Carney to feed us all the party line. That's part of the game. I don't know what she knew, but we all know what the White House knew. But for your UN ambassador to be sent out there telling falsehoods reflects very poorly on her and on the White House. She should resign in fury after being forced to lie to protect this president.

Criticism of Ambassador Susan Rice over her remarks at the UN is certainly unwarranted because she was only making the statements that the incompetent fraud in the white house ordered her to make.

Place the criticism where it belongs.

She has no reputation to "besmirch", she's a life support system for a "president" who can't understand normal thinking and is covering up the fact that he refused to respond to Americans in harms way...

And he may have blackmailed a general to keep his ineptitude concealed days be fore that general was supposed to appear before Congress...

And Russian submarines are patrolling our coasts at this moment even as a liberal zombie hoard of millions dream their little zombie dreams.

Well for all you that blamed Bush, you are willing to let this admin. get away with it kind of like Clinton not sending in the equipt needed in Modadishu. How many times did Clinton have a chance at Bin Laden, 4?

Mr. President, either Rice is incompetent because she didn't know what was going on or YOU are incompetent for telling her what to say. I guess there IS a third option: Both of you are incompetent.

“But when they go after the U.N. ambassador, apparently because they think she’s an easy target, then they’ve got a problem with me.”

Step up and be a man then O'bama! Tell us that you told her what to say and we can get on with attacking your cowardly ass!

Maybe its time to let that filmmaker out of jail now eh?

It may be time for the Senate (Democratic controlled,for anyone that missed the election) to hold hearings on the Republican attempts to undermine the President.And thus.the US government with him. Its time for a showdown with these thugs. Our President won re-election with over half the American people voting for him,and a landslide in electoral votes. Without Republican voter suppression and Sandy,his vote would have been even higher. The American people spoke,and said no to Republican obstruction.

The Republican party in Congress needs to behave as opposition parties in a democracy are expected to behave,as a LOYAL opposition. Their treasonous plotting needs to stop,or be stopped. I'm more than happy that the President is willing to fight back against these bully boys. He can feel sure that the American people have his back in this fight. If the Republicans want a fight over their attacks on the President,they need to learn its a fight they will lose.

WHY was an ambassador at a consulate on the 11th anniversary of 9/11/01 in the first place? Why was he not at a relatively safe embassy? Why would he go out on such a day with so few security personnel? Wasn't there many demonstrations about that crude film during the same time in many other cities and countries? Could the actual terrorists have conjured up these demonstrations as a cover for their attack? Why was embassy security funding cut? Who was the first congressman to dream up this cut in funding? Why was it Libyans who arrested many of these terrorists shortly after? Why did they apologise for the attack happening in the first place? Why was there reports that the Ambassador was dragged around and even raped? Isn't it true he died of asphyxiation caused by fire? Isn't it true Libyans tried to help the Ambassador when he was found still breathing? Why do they call it the Grand Old Party when there isn't anything grand about it at all anymore? Why is when the first comment is collapsed the who thread goes down? Why is it people seem to hate the first amendment? I will copy this an post it in another thread...

“She made an appearance at the request of the White House in which she gave her best understanding of the intelligence (on Benghazi) that had been provided to her. If Sen. McCain and Sen. Graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me – and I’m happy to have that discussion with them," he said animatedly.

They tried over and over and over and over and over and over again to have that conversation with you O'bamaonthelamba, but you would not do it!

"Power is in tearing human minds to pieces and putting them together again in new shapes of your own choosing." George Orwell, 1984

Hahaha and Obama Spins & Spins and yet never seems to get from Benghazi-Gate!!!

Obama had Clinton who then had Rice lie about a "Spontaneous" Riot on the Sunday Morning News then Obama & Clinton posed for a "Publicity" Opportunity over Ambassador Steven's and his defenders "Dead Bodies" just before the Election, yet here & now Obama "Attacks" ANYONE who points out his personal deceit and betrayal to the American People!

Like I've said the Obama Administrations excuses and actions covering up for Benghazi-Gate and his secret CIA Prison (the real story behind Paula Broadwell story) just keep getting more & more "Bizarre"!

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/12/CIA-denies-Broadwell-secret-CIA-prison

BTW I'd have to agree with some of your comments over 911 but "Obama" has done his fair share of covering up that "Act Of Treason".....Now hasn't he?

Don't believe it? Watch a Real American General Speak Out and then watch a PBS Documentary fill in the "Details"!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw&feature=g-all-f

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l-8PFk8j5I

And here it is that Barrack Obama has his own personal "Kill List".....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhRjRapKoIE

And King Barry granted Himself the Right To Indefinitely Detain Americans without Trial or even a Court Hearing when he signed NDAA2012 on 21/31/2011 even after "Promising US" he wouldn't do it!

(D) Carl Levin on NDAA 'Obama Admin insisted on the contents'....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DNDHbT44cY

Psst (D) stands for Democrat for you "Corporate Posters" too "Stupid" to admit Obama lied to US once again over Indefinite Detention Of Americans in America without Trial!

"Everyone believes in the atrocities of the enemy and disbelieves in those of his own side, without ever bothering to examine the evidence." ~ George Orwell

Obama is great at turning things around. They are going after him and why they did not act to protect them when they asked for it before the threat and deaths.

The buck stops with Obama he just sent Rice out as a smoke screen.

I hear all the redneck states want to secede--GREAT!! Don't let the door hit your arse on the way out. I hear many in the south still fly the confederate flag.

We don't need bigoted, racist, selfish, angry, do-nothings hanging around. Form your own country with your military dictatorship government. Then, good luck surviving without the government handouts you're so used to getting.

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I hear all the redneck states want to secede--GREAT!! Don't let the door hit your arse on the way out. I hear many in the south still fly the confederate flag.

You would never survive lib. They will never let this happen. Who will feed you? Who will house you? Would you then be compelled to be self reliant, or would you roll over and drown in your own tears of despair?

When Romney had his behind closed doors 47% meeting, one thing he said was he would take any advantage of a middle east "incident" to attack the President. Now the loser Republican party has jumped on the bandwagon. If you don't have the truth on your side, just dangle shiny objects. The ambassador was saying what the intelligence reports had said, nothing more. Romney of course, was out just hours after the attack and spouting what?, he knew nothing, but felt it had to be bad for Obama. (oddly a few honorable Republican ex-state department folks criticized Mittens for that).

Lets have the investigation, as the President has said. Lets not allow another Republican witch hunt. You'll are nothing but partisan hacks and try as you may there will be four more years for you to cool your heels, meanwhile, you had nothing to say for eight years of lying BS. I wish Pelosi had held investigations into the very real felonies of the Bush administration, but then we as a nation needed to move on, there was a real crisis to be dealt with, another Republican steaming pile.

The GOP is like a swarm of annoying little flies buzzing around making things more irritable by their continual presence.

Its as if they have to shout and point and fingers because otherwise they know that no one is paying any attention to them.

The President should just laugh off their immaturity and go ahead with figuring out the best way to take care of some of these things without their help.

The GOP is growing more irrelevent every day. And the Tea Party -- we should just squash that like a bug.

If you don't have the truth on your side, just dangle shiny objects.

I think this should be stamped across the symbolic Mule's ass!

"Kicked to the curb", Tony?

REALLY?

You Democrats seem to think you won by a landslide, like you're entitled to some sort of political "mandate" now...

You're not aware that the Campaigner in Chief won re-election by a BCH?

50.8% to 48.3% of the popular vote (don't bore me with the Electoral College, I could give a crap).

If 3% is a "Mandate", what do you clowns call a toss-up?

This country is divided, and it will remain so.

I'll NEVER give in to the liberal mindset and the Keynesian idiots intent on destroying MY country.

No Mr. Obama the outrageous part is that you sent S Rice on to all those talk shows to lie to the American people. So if you don't want her to be attacked for those lies just man up and admit to the American people that you told her to spread those lies. Until then I expect the members of the House and the Senate to continue pressing for the truth.

billy 234 - I think you're just a tad bit confused. Let me spell it out for you. Eight days ago, we the American people overwhelmingly voted President Barack Obama another term. By over 100 electoral votes and nearly 3 million ballots. Not exactly a squeaker. So you see, we the majority, are in favor of moving forward, not backward. The tragic events at Benghazi need to be answered, but not by a partisan witch hunt bent on destroying an administration because they can't stand losing. I'll repeat it again. My advice to the Republican Party is to quit trying to make something out of nothing and get to work on the real issues. It would go a long way in making them an important political party again. If they don't, 2014 will be a floor mopping.

I'll NEVER give in to the liberal mindset and the Keynesian idiots intent on destroying MY country.

YOUR country??? How so? Do you have a deed or title backing up this absurd claim?? You know Mike, its just more proof that you are nothing more than a spoiled brat who's been told no and can't handle it. That's fine. It's your perogative to act any way you want. Just don't call yourself a patriot. Anyone that would hope for the country to fail just to gain power is not worth the effort to argue with.

My advice to the Republican Party is to quit trying to make something out of nothing and get to work on the real issues.

ahh, you mean stuff like Romnesia? Naa, you libs can have it. I'd rather lose with dignity than become anything like you.

Pretty obvious that Holder and Rice are the racist bigot sounding out their contempt for any black person having power or being promoted. They couldn't get Obama, Holder, or Obama defeated so now Susan Rice has to be the black whipping child for the GOP. Such nasty old white males.

You've already lost, kornbread. The country is changing and there is little you can do about it. As Robert Plant once sang "crying won't help you, crying won't do you no good!" Maybe you should just sit on the levee and moan.

So, Obama thinks its outrageous that Americans don't want a known liar as Secretary of State? It's bad enough that the king of liars got re-elected, why should we allow him to build his lying "dream team?"

Ambassador Stevens never requested extra security for the Benghazi consulate. The consulate had the recommended security force, according to testimony in Congress by the man in charge of security. And the anti-Islamic video probably WAS a motivation for the attack, although the attack was carried out by a radical militia, not by protesters. The State Department erred in relying too much on the Libyans for security, and they certainly won't repeat that mistake.

That's all there was to it, basically. No conspiracy. No cover up. Those are the facts that Tweedle Dee McCain and Tweedle Dumber Graham are trying unsuccessfully to blow up into some sort of Fox Newsworthy scandal. This crap didn't work during the election. Romney not only lost, but he made a fool out of himself repeatedly by trying to exploit the deaths of Americans. He lost. And the morons who are ranting about it here are losers, too. SORE losers.

houston how do you explain the 100's of emails between Stevens and Clinton and the rest of the State Department asking for more security?

At difficult times- when getting together as a Nation and working for a common purpose is essential to all -we still get the extreme right's rejection to compromise.

It doesn't really matter by what percentage, you LOST! Get over it and get a life! Neither Benghazi nor the Economy is going to work in your favor anymore. At the end of his term, Obama is going to retire like every other President in our History. Still 4 more years of gridlock is unacceptable under our current economy.

Our problem is our present situation, not your failure to recognize that you lost the elections! Trying to damage Obama or even get an impeachment will be ineffective, destructive to our economy and a burden that none of us want or need.

If some of you right wing extremist are serious about improving our situation and getting things done, we have to focus on the U.S. right now. Forget partisanship and work on our problems or we, the U.S. will suffer-including you.

Houston!

How about tweedle dee Feinstien, does that apply to her as well you bonehead. By the way this happened and was brought out before the election. So much for the spoken word of a liar and a knucklehead. By the way I like how your opinion is now facts since even the Senate does not have all the facts. Did you here them on MSNBC.

lilirocks

If that is true as you say it is how come the Dems could not even pass a budget with a majority. You are so far of base I think your GPS failed better get it checked. By the way when you dems passed health care you had no problem doing that. The suffering is because of the Dems who likw you blame the right. Well after four more years of this stuff who are you going to blame then? I know who you will try to blame?

WHOEVER is behind this, they should hang them. How tall are the trees around the White House?

People were AWARE of the "Bengazi Cover-up” before the election, and they STILL voted for Obama!!! LOL!!!!

Obama won!! Get over it!!!

McCain needs to be put out to pasture, he is well past his 'best before' date.

Lyndsay Graham is just delusional.

It is interesting that the Republican party has sent these two 'short timers' out to persecute the smear campaign.

With all due respect Mr. President, if you are taking responsibility for what is passed along to the "press" and the American public, you need to monitor what is being said by your mouth-pieces. From what I understand, Rice requested to appear on all 5 shows. Seems to me like she was doing exactly what you told her to do which fits right into your plans for the next 4 years for America. Now that you are in the POSITION, you can do whatever you want no matter what laws are in place or how you affect the American citizens.

Wait, we don't need a tree. The White House has multiple stories.

@Irvmani

That's exactly the problem. Healthcare is already passed and Congress passed it. Congress cannot pass any bills without a majority. Legislation is not "passed" by our President.

Budget with a majority??? When Congress pass legislation it has to be with a majority. Be specific of your reference because regardless of political parties, our representatives don't agree with certain legislation.

The way President Obama reacts to the subject just reminds me of that person who is hiding something who gets real mad so you won't persue the topic.

Your 100% right Obama, you told her to go on five news shows and tell your lie. I know Obama you don't believe in God, but God will pay you back I'm sure of that.

The problem with McCain.....?....He lost to president Obama who is half black.

The problem with rt wingers they lost the elections....twice ...to president Obama who is half black.

I wtsh all you BIGOTS could get hanged for for not being HUMAN

OK It is fact that the President and his staff knew within the first two hours of the attack that this was not because of the movie. They received several emails during those crutial hours about the attack and also one claiming responsibility for the attack. They knew it was terrorism. They did nothing to help those people. So don't blame the republicians for this. This was an issue before the election and got less media attention due to the election. These family members were screaming for an account of what happened. But because of the election it got swept under the table. Now it is time that the truth comes out and those with the knowledge of what was going on and did nothing to be held accountable. And personally I think that the investigation should be held by a private party with no vested interest in the out come of the investigation.

It is easy for anyone who truely wants the truth to find out. Factcheck.org is one of many sites. Try using them before you place blame where it does not belong.

Humpty Dumpty sat on a
wall,
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall.
All the King's horses, And all the
King's men
Couldn't put Humpty together again!

I don't care that he is a Black Gay Man, What I dont like about him is his failed leadership.

and I gave money to Hillary and I hated bush 1/2 of the time.

There is so much anger in both sides of these comments. It is sad. I have voted in many Presidential elections starting with JFK. What happened to "Ask not what the Country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country"? There is not an infinite supply of wealthy people, what happens when they run out of money? What's wrong with being extremely successful? Shouldn't everyone strive for this? Sadly, it is true that almost half of the population don't pay any taxes (the infamous 47%). Some of these people should be contributing, a lot of them can't. I am sure a lot of people were not around for Watergate, I was. It was a bungled burglary of a Physchiratist's office, and a cover up of same. Bengazi was a slaughter of 4 Americans, and an obvious attempt at a cover-up. It wil not go away. I am hoping that there is a young version of Bernstein and Woodward digging it right now, and the families of these Americans that were killed will finally get answers.

It amazes me that when Obama is questioned not to his liking, he becomes a very nasty and beligerant man. He is such an egotistical human being is attitude is one of hate. How dare you question me is his demeanor. He has been asked for over two months to be honest with the American people and has chosen not to do so. I think Ms. Rice was used as a scapegoat and now that he is being asked to reveal the truth he can only turn to anger as a response. How long does he think he can keep this cover-up going? He wants to keep the divide going. The election is over now so lets get on with the truth, Mr. Obama.

Barry you are starting to come off as a bully are you not aware of the fact we are trying to teach children not to bully so the person who is supposed to be the head of our country appears to be bullying not good!! In my OPINION it seems like there was some hiding going on to that might have affected the election. It scares my having a bully as a president, do you treat your family this way?

You guys can take all your white sheets and hoods off now, the election is over, and the best man won. To Sen. McCain if you want to talk about the government being unfair to the people who serve, start with your father and what he did to the sailors of the USS Liberty after it was almost sunk by the Israelis, during their 1967 war.

Just stop watching ABC,CBS and NBC news until they hold Obama to the same standards that they held Bush to.

When all the facts are reported, Graham and McCain along with Faux & crew and limbaugh should come out publicly apologize for being dumbasses and say that they attempted to create this story, because they can't stand Obama in the White House.

Then Graham and McCain should resign from the Senate.

The problem is, this Rice bitch lied like a dog on Meet the Press. The cover-up of the truth about Benghazi is a form of treason.That compound is considered a part of the U.S.

You would never survive lib. They will never let this happen. Who will feed you? Who will house you? Would you then be compelled to be self reliant, or would you roll over and drown in your own tears of despair?

Are you referring to the party of handouts? The entire Republican mantra is based on "let someone else pay for my infrastructure" and the hypocrisy in pretending that Republicans paid for that infrastructure.

You might be having fantasies of being missed, but trust me, we only have absolute contempt for you. Should people like you choose to leave, such a decision will be met with immense approval and gratitude.

He has been asked for over two months to be honest with the American people and has chosen not to do so.

I don't think people like you understand honesty. They have spent so much time being lied to by Fox News that they can't understand honesty when it comes at them straight from the President. Excuse me, the Socialist Marxist Muslim Kenyan.

Remind me again, Obama was going to get slaughtered by Romney by how much of a landslide?

The cover-up of the truth about Benghazi is a form of treason.

Remember you said that. And also remember the lies that two US Senators are spouting left and right. Your word. Treason.

All right all of you delusional repubs. Just relax and let the evidence work it's way through the system. McCain and Graham should remember that we're all watching them and all of the fringe groups that associate with the GOP which probably includes some of you morons on this posting. Guess who won...not the GOP or the fringe groups...guess who won with a shellacking. Not the GOP or the fringe groups. Get over it.

And as the Titanic slowly leaned forward into the icy waters of the north Atlantic, a full-scale investigation was launched into who stole Mrs. Smith's purse. LOL! We deserve the fate that awaits our nation for electing such incompetent buffoons as these!

It's sad to say but McCain has clearly begun to lose his mind. Alzheimer's, reduced blood flow to the brain, whatever kind of senile dementia he seems to be experiencing, it's sad...I used to respect him. Then I lost all respect for him. Then I regained some respect for him but now I just feel sorry for him and his family. I'm so sorry that Mr. McCain's brain seems to be in the same state as Ronald Reagan's as he served his second term. Lindsey Graham? Just another republikan political whore! Come on...it's obvious.

There is not an infinite supply of wealthy people, what happens when they run out of money? What's wrong with being extremely successful? Shouldn't everyone strive for this?

Why exactly should we be caring what happens when wealthy people run out of money? Right now, we are running out of middle class people and a large, prosperous middle class is far more important to the country than rich people. This is what Obama is trying to fix, and what the country desperately needs.

Sadly, it is true that almost half of the population don't pay any taxes (the infamous 47%).

No, it's not. Everyone pays taxes. Everyone.

Earl-Wait, we don't need a tree. The White House has multiple stories.

Have to agree there. But you'd need a couple of hundred ropes to get a clean sweep of the Teabaggers in Congress,lol.

Put this event and the cover-up of "Fast & Furious" could be O'Bama's Watergate. We can only hope. Rice, Clinton & O'Bama have lied to the American people for O'Bama's Political gain. Eric Holder has lied to Legal U.S. Citizens and should be removed from office and Charged and Prosecuted for his actions in the cover-up concerning "Fast & Furious". Citizens have died because of the cover-ups. Rice & Clinton should be immediately removed from their positions and charged with Treason. O'Bama, together with Clinton & Rice, should be charged with treason.O'Bama has truly earned the right to be Impeached or treated like a "Lame Duck" President. Major problems with both elections that put O'Bama in Office shows just how corrupt his Presidency has become. The i;llegal actions in Illionis that put him on the Ballott, his refusal to prosecute the Black Panthers for Voter Intimidation, his association with the creation of the Illegal actions of ACORN ( to whom he gave millions of Tax dollars), the curent election problems in Philadelphia where 130% of Black Voters voted for O'Bama. All of which were accepted and supported by O'Bama. He may have gotten elected for 4 more years, but can he last as President 4 more years while he continues the cover-ups and lies.

Joe- you do realize, don't you, that the President isn't Irish?

"JoeB": ludicrous, stupid, lying, vicious Republican hate propaganda. Intelligent, informed Americans have learned to tune out such garbage.

I don't understand the Republican position that this was a cover-up. There was nothing to be gained by giving the explanation that was given rather than the current explanation. But I watched Susan Rice on Meet the Press and I have to take issue with the President's combative defense of her. I'm a Democrat and my takeaway from all this is that I was either lied to on Meet the Press, or that the CIA and State Department are incompetent, and that Susan Rice is merely a cipher who reads talking points that are given to her by incompetents. Either way, I have to wonder about Hillary Clinton's competence in guiding policy at the State Department, Susan Rice's abilities, and the coherence of President Obama's policy.

But don't get me wrong. We watched 8 years of incompetence that far surpassed this under President Bush.

James,

You have to realize that the Ambassador was reading talking points from the most current CIA report. This was not an attack by an established terrorist organization. It is a group that is trying to make a name for itself in the wake of Libya's civil war. That's why they were well-armed but poorly organized. And why the CIA didn't know anything about the attack beforehand. They are not a group that bore watching prior to the 9/11 attack on the consulate. The CIA still doesn't know very much about them. And they did get their inspiration to commit the attack from the demonstration in Cairo over the video.

There is no cover up. As you said, what's there to cover up? It's just the right wing media trying to start a scandal. Nothing more.

Hm. Well, judging by the comments from the right here, They'll be losing more seats in 2014. Couldn't happen to a nicer party.

Bottom line: Subpoena the President of the United States of America to testify....UNDER OATH.

FOUR American are DEAD. America deserves to know the TRUTH and NOT SPIN.

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ALERT....ALERT: the Progressives are out defending a lack of LEADERSHIP.

Well it's "Obvious" that the "Obama" Haters of Free Speech are still out in force attacking any other opinions in the Vines besides their own so please allow me to repeat myself.......

As I've said before the "Real Story" isn't the BeTrayUS Affair".... The Real Scandal is what Paula Broadwell claims to be a Secret CIA Prison in Benghazi and what Obama knew about it beforehand.

Mr. President....doth protest too much, methinks~William Shakespeare

Has anyone else noticed how the closer we get to Barry's "Crimes" the more of a Temper Tantrum he throws like a petulant child?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmh-4vQ0_Bc

Since a lot of you "Pr Corporate Posters" do not seem to have bothered to "Educated" Yourself on this "Subject" please allow me to assist in "your" research before you make even further fools of "yourselves"!

Here are a couple of links where BeTrayUS's Main Squeeze Paula Broadwell "spills the beans" on Benghazi-Gate and the Secret CIA Prison....

http://www.digtriad.com/video/default.aspx?bctid=1966903720001

http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/tygrrrr-express/2012/nov/13/general-petraeus-and-other-naked-body/

And here's how "Obama" covered up these "Crimes Against America" before the Election to benefit his Re-Election Campaign and is trying to!

http://news.lalate.com/2012/11/12/paula-broadwell-david-petraeus-being-used-for-cia-benghazi-cover-up/

Now even the British "Corporate Media" is trying to "Blow Smoke" for Obama! Isn't it "Funny how the UN Globalist love Obama?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2231203/Barack-Obama-David-Petraeus-Was-relationship-discovered-FBI-months-ago-hushed-election.html

Sorry Barry but "No Amount" of "No Story Here Folks, Move it on Move it on" posters are going to cause this "Scandal" to go away so....

Impeach Barrack Obama 2012....At least Richard Nixon had the Honor to Resign!

"The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history."~George Orwell

yep, the republican lie machine is in full swing, and they love to spend tens of millions of taxpayer dollars for their little witch hunts.

Bottom line: Subpoena the President of the United States of America to testify....UNDER OATH.

FOUR American are DEAD. America deserves to know the TRUTH and NOT SPIN.

LOL, your "dear leader" of 2000-2008 threw away over 4000 American lives, and allowed over 3000 Americans to die, and nobody subpoenaed him

danwill....."LOL, your "dear leader" of 2000-2008 threw away over 4000 American lives, and allowed over 3000 Americans to die, and nobody subpoenaed him."

Duuuuuh, another typical Progressive reply.

Both were approved by CONGRESS.......BOTH PARTIES which means bipartisan vote.

Follow the sheepies now.

"... [Ambassador Rice] should have known what the situation and circumstances were..." said the Senator who nominated the all-knowing Sara Palin.

Obama said that there was nothing in Gen Petraeus's e-mails to be concerned about. Now they are saying she had access to classified information. I am thinking everyone lies to Obama (cause he don't know squat) and he repeats it and looks like an idiot when the truth hits the fan. Smoke and mirrors.

And its politics as usual....The repubs want John Kerry to be sec of state so they can try to get his seat in the senate. Ruining Ambassador Rices career would be fine. No lower ratings for any group in government that the republicans in congress, what slimeballs.

Stop playing politics and do the job you were elected to do .Your BS may play good on fox news but it sickens everyone else. Did you learn nothing from the election?

You know it's a sad day when we have people on this site that have NO CLUE as to how intelligence works, from gather, filtering, comparing and coming up with the truth. The sad fact that most of you here wouldn't know the truth if it bit you in the hind parts. What's really sad to me is that McCain, A military man SHOULD KNOW how this process works. Unfortunately we live in an age where everyone wants answers no matter how accurate the information so they can be the "first" to report the "breaking news" to most of us. Based on what I know and understand, here are some of the things that are factual:

1. There was a movie made that depicted Islams in a pale light.

2. As a result, there were protest throughout the region at ALL US embassies throughout the Middle East, NOT just in Libya.

3. Four Americans lost their lives on a "golden" opportunity by cowards who use those protest as a cover-up to accomplish their goal. NOTE: No group has claimed responsibility yet, makes you think huh?

4. Information was AGAIN "leaked" out to the media from "sources" they claimed to be credible but notice how the WH kept quiet until they received ALL the information from their investigation. Again Ms. Rice WAS CORRECT in her initial response based on the intelligence she currently had. It was not updated until it was CONFIRMED it was an act or terrorism.

I would say that anyone with a shred of decency would understand the need for obtaining all the facts and ONLY issuing a statement when it is presented and not call a press conference to gain some kind of "political edge". The fact is that four Americans died and I have complete confidence that the President will not rest until those that initiated the attack are brought to justice.

I've haven't heard so much BS since I was in High School and Jimmy was lying to his teacher. You have to hand it to ole Duck N' Dodge he is good at evading and answer a question with a question or hypothesis. If he is doing this to protect his people he needs to stop, his people are out here called citizens. If he is doing it to protect his own skin well that is an entirely different story. He should shed himself of Holder for starters and that might give him some credibility. Not Holder quitting he needs to be let go.

Ido--Bottom line: As Bush and Cheney demanded (and were granted) after 9/11 let's have the President testify in a closed and secret location. NOT under oath, with NO recording devices of any kind, NO photography, NO note taking, NO transcript and NO questions from any outside source. No truth and no spin there. After all Bush and Cheney only got 3000 Americans killed in NY and only another 5000 Americans in Iraq. Those 4 deaths in Benghazi...now there's a scandal!

You right wing cretins are the most shameless hypocrites on the planet!

Subpoena the President? He already stated that he wanted to get to the bottom of what went wrong at Benghazi..

And let's add to it... subpoena the GOP Congressional members that voted to deny the increase in security funding....

And let's add to it... subponea Issa for making public an on going CIA operation that put HUMINTEL assets at risk. What a dumbass...................

And let's add to it... subpoena "Faux" news for spreading falsehoods about the country during time of war.... which is treason.

And let's add to it... subpoena Limbaugh for stirring up sedition against the government.

And in another matter matter, subpoena everyone that tried voter intimadion or voter fraud.

Let's have the biggest witch haunt in history.

Back to reality.... we need to find out the truth of what happened in Benghazi, so it doesn't happen again. There is enough blame for both sides of the aisle. From budget cuts that didn't consider the consequences. To "rules of engagement" that weren't understood, to relying on a "new" shaky forgeign government for external security and yes, even to the idiots that funded and made the dumbass movie - your actions have consequences and you knew that, that's why you did it.

And it won't matter what facts you present to McCain, Graham, Hannity or Limbaugh - their minds are made up.... it won't matter if the investigation turns up nothing, their still pissed that the voting public bitch slapped them and re-elected Obama. And it's Obama's fault, that they didn't get their G.I Joe toys when they were kids.

Does anyone else remember Obama & Clinton posing at Andrews over Ambassador Stevens and 3 other American Citizens "Dead Bodies" wrapped in the American Flag?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/photos-and-video/video/2012/09/14/president-obama-speaks-ceremony-benghazi-victims

Remember Ambassador Rice out on all the Sunday Morning talk shows lying to US about how it was a Spontaneous Riot and we shouldn't blame President Obama just before the Election?

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/09/ambassador-susan-rice-libya-attack-not-premeditated/

America...shortly after Richard Nixon was re-elected in 1972 the Watergate Cover-up broke (which no one was actually Murdered) and within 18 months Tricky Dick was "Impeached" for lying to the American People about those "Crimes" after the fact!.....Well at least Nixon was "Honorable" enough to "Resign" when caught!

Impeach Barrack Obama 2012!

"He who controls the past controls the future. He who controls the present controls the past." ~George Orwell, 1984

MUW--Nixon didn't have an honorable bone in his body. He resigned rather than being removed from office, which was definitely on the horizon. The repubs told him get out or else. He wasn't impeached but had he been it would have been for numerous FELONIES including obstruction of justice. You FAIL in your lame attempt to rewrite history.

And for the rest of you right wing scum, go ahead and impeach Obama. I dare you! Do that and your children, grandchildren and great grandchildren will NEVER see another republikan President.

Rice is a looser and so is obama for backing her.

Hahahaha!!

You called Obama and Rice a " loser" and you can't even spell it correctly. Guess the Tea Party Home Schooling program wasnt a success after all....

BTW:

When you typed "looser" did it look correctly spelled to you?

Looks like you`re the "LOSER",not "LOOSER",you BOZO!

Most Republican terrorists can't spell

It's loser, as in "the Seahawks have been a loser franchise since their inception."

Even the libbies at this liberal blog are quick to find excuses for obama.... even resorting to spell check to support their arguments.... lol

Bill: they're not resorting to spell check to 'support their arguments' about Benghazi - they're using spell check to support their point that the RWing nutjobs tend to be the least educated people in the US. And - you missed that whole point I take it.... (of course - and another point taken)

Being informed and having the intelligence to be able to be informed DOES make a difference. See it for yourself at:

http://www.happyplace.com/19076/election-infographic-shows-most-educated-states-voted-for-obama

Seattleseahawk - when the libs don't have a response to your comment they'll call you names, or attack your spelling, or anything else to avoid the embarrassment of being wrong on the point being made. Don't sweat the small stuff.

And so are the Seahawks.

Exactly seattleseahawk, but don't argue with them they will drag you down to their level.

While OBAMA slept..............

All I can think is that no on in America has ever read Machiavelli's "The Prince". The world isn't just black and white. Lying is a very useful tool. For example - I would have lied and said that it was just mob uprising. This would have served two very useful objectives - 1) Make sure no loser Americans attack other US citizens of foreign nationality such as (ahem) Sikhs (who by the way aren't Muslims), (2) ensure that the real enemies feel safe and secure all the way till I send a special forces team to exterminate them.

Instead Americans want to cry and moan instead of seeing the world for what it is. It's called realpolitik.

BTW - I'm still in awe at the gall of Sen. Graham who accuses Obama of being derelict in his duty. Last I checked, the deadliest attack on American soil was under a different president. (BTW - I don't blame Bush for the attack either. Or Katrina for that matter. @!$%# happens. I just wish we had dropped a couple of nukes over Mecca.)

Grow up - Ms. Rice is an amazing person. Most people can only hope to achieve a tenth of what she has accomplished. And once again - Grow up America. Life isn't a Disney film.

Bill T from USA

Even the libbies at this liberal blog are quick to find excuses for obama.... even resorting to spell check to support their arguments.... lol

Libbies don't need to find excuses for President Obama...he won!

Sorry Seahawk...who's the loser?

While Bush read "My pet goat".... We can do this Monday morning quarterbacking all day. It is completely fair to question what the President knew, when he knew it and if he didnt know it, why not. It's just a tad bit disingenuous coming from the same people who made excuses for the previous President for 9/11.

SeattleSeahawk: you don't know what you are talking about. Where are the facts to validate your claim? Everybody is entitled to their opinion. Senator McCain appears to be moving toward senility to me. Investigate Benghazi to your heart's content. You did nothing during the past four years that benefitted the country and the middle class.

Hey "Gold Bars", "Home Schooling" doesn't require capitols and "wasnt" does require an apostrophe. Correct way is wasn't. Where did you go to school?

Gold Bars...... Nice to point out a small mistake so I will return the favor. Looks like you stupid libs do not know or don't know how to use the apostrophe correctly.

it is spelled wasn't not wasnt..........

Looks like you are or you're stupid now.

Ha.

Hey "Gold Bars", "Home Schooling" doesn't require capitols and "wasnt" does require an apostrophe. Correct way is wasn't. Where did you go to school?

Guess that went over your head like Seattlepeehawk....I used "Tea Party Home Schooling"....like I would I spell Roosevelt High School or National Head Start Association....using capitals to denote a program name or school name, which is commonly used and accepted....seems like that lesson wasnt (wasn't) taught in your Republican Home Schooling Program!!! LOL!!!

Gold Bars...... Nice to point out a small mistake so I will return the favor. Looks like you stupid libs do not know or don't know how to use the apostrophe correctly.

it is spelled wasn't not wasnt..........

I prefer wasnt over wasn't as a personal writing style....its not like anybody would get confused about it!! LOL!!

There is a BIG difference between "loser" and "looser".....they BOTH have very distinct meanings and definitions!! LOL!!!

I blame Obama for not helping the ambassador in Libya after he begged for it and then Obama lying about it.

The house of cards is falling apart so fast!!!

The elections are over.....Romney LOST....now go crawl back to your cave....because you built it!!!

Sore Losers!! LOL!!!

...they're using spell check to support their point that the RWing nutjobs tend to be the least educated people in the US.

Alex the fool, The sheeple who gave obummer a second chance are the uninformed and uneducated folks... but are well compensated by the government handouts they so depend on.... I know for a fact Barry has no intention of putting 'work' back into welfare!!!

Alex the fool, The sheeple who gave obummer a second chance are the uninformed and uneducated folks... but are well compensated by the government handouts they so depend on.... I know for a fact Barry has no intention of putting 'work' back into welfare!!!

Running on white resentment and resentment of the poor is not a winning strategy............and the next Republican who tries it will lose too.

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The GOP has 2 options:

1) admit that their ideology is from the wrong century and catch up

2) double down, start the blame game and lose again

Gold Bars...(#3.18)..."Guess that went over head like Seattlepeehawk"

Overhead is one word....."over head" requires a word in between as an identifier...

over "the" head....over "his or her" head....yada, yada, yada

Jus' sayin'.....LOL to you.

Have a nice grammatically correct evening.....

It's amazing how much we have all come to hate each other, how did it get to this I wonder? Well I suppose it's obvious (silly me)..... someone said in another thread that Obama won in a landslide...ummmmm, I would call a landslide 60/40, 70/30 definitely not 47/50 or whatever it was (close enough). This really spells out that half the country pretty much hates him (that's me, not afraid to say) and the other half thinks he is some sort of gift from God. It's definitely not more evident than on this website.

Liberals seem to be possessed by ignorance, have no concept of reality and wouldn't be able to smell any sort of stinky rat if it hit them in the face. It is quite disturbing reading these comments by liberals, these are the followers of the messiah, the ones who have been reigned in by the cult leader and I have to put my life and that of my children's in their hands. Never mind that, they put their own kids and lives in the hands of this numb skull and his cronies, I guess cult followers are supposed to offer up sacrifices, that's the whole point I suppose. What a horrible, nightmarish situation we are in with no way out.

This administration is a bunch of lying thugs, Rice, Petraeus, Allen (who knows how many more) were all offered up on a silver platter to distort factual reality. Hear no evil, see no evil is the Obama followers motto, the liberal type of thinking will bring our country crashing down sooner rather than later I suspect.

Ignorance is bliss I guess, I just wonder how blissful you will all see things when this house of cards comes tumbling down.

And don't tell me I spelled something wrong, I don't give a cr*p...

P.S.....Just know that you are watching the beginning of the Fall Of The 0bama Empire....

I hear all the redneck states want to secede--GREAT!! Don't let the door hit your arse on the way out. I hear many in the south still fly the confederate flag.

We don't need bigoted, racist, selfish, angry, do-nothings hanging around. Form your own country with your military dictatorship government. Then, good luck surviving without the government handouts you're so used to getting.

Guess that went over head like Seattlepeehawk"

Overhead is one word....."over head" requires a word in between as an identifier...

over "the" head....over "his or her," head....yada, yada, yada

Jus' sayin'.....LOL to you.

Have a nice grammatically correct evening.....

Wow..what are you smoking???

My post at 3.18 starts off as...."Guess that went over your head like Seattlepeehawk"....

Where did I leave out the "identifier"??

The Tea party Home Schooling is a complete FAILURE.....as proven by several trailer park, redneck and hillbilly morons posting on here today!! No wonder Romney LOST!! LOL!!

WHY was an ambassador at a consulate on the 11th anniversary of 9/11/01 in the first place? Why was he not at a relatively safe embassy? Why would he go out on such a day with so few security personnel? Wasn't there many demonstrations about that crude film during the same time in many other cities and countries? Could the actual terrorists have conjured up these demonstrations as a cover for their attack? Why was embassy security funding cut? Who was the first congressman to dream up this cut in funding? Why was it Libyans who arrested many of these terrorists shortly after? Why did they apologise for the attack happening in the first place? Why was there reports that the Ambassador was dragged around and even raped? Isn't it true he died of asphyxiation caused by fire? Isn't it true Libyans tried to help the Ambassador when he was found still breathing? Why do they call it the Grand Old Party when there isn't anything grand about it at all anymore? Why is it when the first comment is collapsed the whole thread goes down? Why is it people seem to hate the first amendment? I will copy this an post it in another thread...it is the only way to be heard, I guess.

P.S.....Just know that you are watching the beginning of the Fall Of The 0bama Empire....

Is that what Faux Noize, Beckerhead, Fatbo, Boortz and Lush Limpballs is saying now?? Hahahhaaa!!!

Romney LOST.....get over it!!

I hear all the redneck states want to secede--GREAT!! Don't let the door hit your arse on the way out. I hear many in the south still fly the confederate flag.

We don't need bigoted, racist, selfish, angry, do-nothings hanging around. Form your own country with your military dictatorship government. Then, good luck surviving without the government handouts you're so used to getting.

Interestingly the majority of states that have greater than 40% of their population covered by Medicaid/Medicare/Food Stamps happen to fall within, wait for it...states that have Republican leadership!

Arizona, Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Montana, New Mexico, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas and West Virginia.

These states all lead the nation in the greatest % of population on Medicaid/Medicare/Food Stamps. Incidentally, the vast majority of states that receive more in Federal spending than they pay in federal taxes....RED states!

*****************The largest recipients of Federal welfare dollars are the red voting states. They take $1.00 of Federal money for every $.30 that they send in.******************

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Please, explain to me how the GOP is so anti-entitlements and pro-spending cuts, when they represent the greatest offenders of federal programs for their constituents and tax cuts for the wealthy?

It's time that the BLUE states stop SUBSIDIZING the RED States. I bet most of the complainers here are from those "red" states that have a remittance deficit with the federal government (meaning that the rest of us are subsidizing them).

Gold Bars has won asshat of the day!! YAY!!

Perfect 7th grade response. Don't you have a cat to torture, or something of that nature? How will the Republican Party ever recover with adherents like you? 85% of the nation reads your comments and wonders what happened to education.

It is apparently clear that the Bennyhill Gahzi crowd gets their news from Fox all bennygahzi news 24/7 channel. Did you know when you look at the reliability of Fox news??/...by doing search on ....Fox News dumber... you see studies that show that people who watch Fox news actually get dumber after watching Fox news. So...try changing your news channel to ...say...NBC...or ABC....or XYZ...and get yourself enlightened!

so some of you losers are going to start on Texas now.... you are the ones that sound like narrow minded rednecks .... we have no problems here in Texas ... very well self-contained ... no problems with the economy out here in West Texas... making money hand over fist... we are making so much money we can't spend it fast enough... how are those green cars working out for you....

Then why are you here?

STFU

Bwaahahaha....to piss you off..why do you think...you radical Republicans are the reason I exist...wait til Nov 2014 :)

WisconsinDad-2479817 - Clinton/Pelosi 2016

"Bwaahahaha"

Hey! My wife does that to me....lol. Is that a Wisconsin thing?

Man, never seen so much hate, jealousy and anger from people as from these leftist idiots. It's a religion.

Nov 2014? Like the Dems took it back in 2010? Why did they not take it back this time?

What? No answer?

NC

Gerrymandering. Voter suppression. Dems were asleep in 2010. They are awake now. They will make more headway in 2014 and 2016. Bye-bye.

I hear all the redneck states want to secede--GREAT!! Don't let the door hit your arse on the way out. I hear many in the south still fly the confederate flag.

We don't need bigoted, racist, selfish, angry, do-nothings hanging around. Form your own country with your military dictatorship government. Then, good luck surviving without the government handouts you're so used to getting. Without the redneck states sucking this economy dry, we will start running a surplus.

NC, the dems collectively got more votes in the congressional races. When ALL the votes are finally counted, we will have picked up more than 8 seats. The fact is still you were able to hang on, but by how much is the question. I ALMOST hope you all will still be so deaf on the facts. That will be the death blow of the not so grand old party.

OF COURSE Obama is outraged at the attempt to hold him and his Secretary to the U N accountable.

IT IS NOT in OBAMA'S or DNA to admit responsibility!

THE last we had an issue like this was Mia Lai,Viet Nam. THEN the liberal press went after the U S Army with a vengence.

NOW! Americans are killed and Obama and his mindless supporters cover it up with a weak as water excuse for the reason. BUT, this time the press turns their bigotted head and blesses it, along with all the rectal cavities that support and make excuses for Obama.

It's not in the DNA of the GOP to have signs of intelligence either.

rednawt,

Hang on? LOL. We still hold the House by a wide margin. That means that more GOP reps got more votes than did Dems. All of the reps were up for election. Why did not the Dems take it back this time? Hmmm?

Fixing districts to make them firmly GOP is not the same as winning. It's defrauding the voters. A majority of democrats voted in the house races. If it were decided on popular votes, the GOP would have lost the house too.

Just read 40 states want to seceed

Amanda, the requests were for the Embassy in Tripoli, as is specifically mentioned in the article you quote. Benghazi is 400 miles from Tripoli and is not mentioned in the article.

Amanda-2017567

Very well argued. Unfortunately because of her future political ambitions Hillarity will never accept responsibility in a meaningful way. The only part of the State Department job she was interested in was the size of the SoS's travel budget. Sadly it is a simple as THAT. The GOP clowns should target the Clinton Mafia and do us all a favor.

fielden said:

Amanda, the requests were for the Embassy in Tripoli, as is specifically mentioned in the article you quote. Benghazi is 400 miles from Tripoli and is not mentioned in the article.

The embassy is in Tripoli. The consulate is in Benghazi. A consulate is simply a remote-location office from which diplomatic personnel can hold meetings with locals, and according to reporter Ethan Chorin of the NY Times, he thinks Stevens may have simply opted to stay overnight at the office in anticipation of another round of meetings the next day.

Ethan Chorin knew Ambassador Stevens personally, was familiar with him and his work, and this article he wrote is on of the most powerful I've seen as regards this incident:

ON Wednesday morning, my colleagues and I were to meet in Benghazi with J. Christopher Stevens, the American ambassador to Libya, to discuss a plan for a new division of emergency medicine at Benghazi Medical Center, the largest and most modern hospital in eastern Libya. The meeting never took place. The night before, militants laid siege to the American Consulate in Benghazi, killing the ambassador and three other Americans. The ambassador was taken, without a pulse, to the hospital we hoped to upgrade.

The draft agreement we were working on was the kind of visionary effort to improve life in Libya that Ambassador Stevens liked — in this case, a collaboration between doctors in Boston and Benghazi, brokered by a nongovernmental organization that a Libyan-American and I had organized after the recent revolution. Our goal was a center that could also serve as a training facility for all of eastern Libya. It was the kind of public-private and Libyan-American partnership that Ambassador Stevens believed could help Libya move beyond decades of stagnation and despotism.

On Tuesday night, even as the men who would kill him were closing in, Ambassador Stevens told us by phone how happy he was that the project was nearing fruition. He told us it was important to show our government’s support for such initiatives, and we made plans to meet with the medical center’s director general, Dr. Fathi al-Jehani, at the hospital the next morning. Dr. Jehani himself had been a target of violence for his forward-thinking views.

About half an hour later, I called the ambassador’s security detail to discuss the visit, only to hear the words “we’ve got a problem here” — with an alarming expletive inserted. The line went dead. And we were left to listen helplessly as the sounds of distant violence carried across the city to our hotel room — a long rocket-propelled grenade volley, and machine-gun fire that continued for the better part of an hour.

Ambassador Stevens arrived after midnight at Benghazi Medical Center, where we were to have met. Its emergency room staff, which included Libyan expatriates who had returned from well-paid jobs abroad, worked for 45 minutes to try to resuscitate him. It was no use.

The tragedies of this situation simply compound one another. For a forthcoming book about the Libyan revolution, I have interviewed scores of current and former Western officials, many of whom were either pessimistic about or indifferent to Libya’s growing pains. In their eyes, Libya continues to be a sideshow of the broader Arab Spring.

Ambassador Stevens did not agree. I discussed Libya’s future with him last spring in a Washington cafe, as he awaited confirmation as ambassador. He had already been the deputy chief of mission in Libya, and he had been the United States envoy to Benghazi during the dangerous early days of the revolution. So he knew Libya, and he believed that it could become one of the first full success stories of the Arab Spring — that Islamic radicalism there could be nipped in the bud if Western governments acted decisively to put the country on a path to stability and social progress.

Now, his death may derail the very processes he championed.

Mr. Stevens understood that Libyans had suffered under Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi, and that conflict and post-revolutionary instability were to be expected. He also understood that some, if not all, of the hatred that had pushed some of Libya’s youths to join radical factions in Afghanistan and Iraq had sprung from years of neglect and oppression. Now, he felt, new opportunities needed to be created to wean these people away from ideologies rooted in hate.

No doubt that was one reason he made a point, as ambassador, of continuing to visit Benghazi, the East’s largest city, despite the clear risks; there had been attacks on other high-level diplomats there in the previous months. It is a mystery at this point why the consulate compound was so lightly fortified, but I would not be surprised if Mr. Stevens had decided to stay overnight in Benghazi simply because his list of planned meetings with Libyans there was too long to be accomplished in one afternoon.

The morning after the attack on the consulate, my colleagues and I returned to the medical center, where we witnessed an outpouring of sadness and, as one physician put it, shame. The emergency room staff members who worked to save Mr. Stevens broke down in tears, as did the physician in charge. Some knew or had met Mr. Stevens; some had not. But all were aware that he had been a champion of Libya, and of Benghazi in particular, and that his death may have rolled back Benghazi’s stupendous revolutionary accomplishments by months — even if it does not set off a period of heightened instability in eastern Libya. Many Libyans outside the hospital also offered condolences and expressed profound regret for America’s loss.

In the West, we can now expect a strong temptation among governments and private enterprise to declare the Libyan experiment a failure, and to respond by disengaging, retreating or focusing only on the extirpation of radical elements. That would be a terrible mistake. The attack has already entered into the American presidential debate in a base fashion, with Mitt Romney’s first instinct being to criticize President Obama over the timing of his denunciation of the attack. But Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton got it right when she spoke of the Libyan people as allies in the fight against extremism.

The gravest mistake would be for the United States to write off Libya as an irredeemable terrorist haven, or for politicians in Washington to regret having intervened in support of Libya’s rebels. Libya is still far better off today than it was under Qaddafi. The grip of fear has been broken. Election posters festoon the country. Election schedules have been met. And there is a rich expression of individual opinions.

Nevertheless, the Libyan people need support to consolidate gains, and to continue a fight against largely foreign-financed radicals who wish to hijack the revolution in the name of intolerance. And the United States must help the Libyans do that. The loss of Ambassador Stevens will, I hope, goad the Libyan government into matching its discipline about election schedules with far bolder steps to crack down on extremists and disarm the country’s militias. And Libya should press the American government for even more support in that effort, even as it encourages American organizations to find common cause with their Libyan counterparts to improve the lives of Libya’s citizens.

This week the United States lost one of its most admirable public servants, and I can report that at least some Libyans are profoundly aware that the loss is theirs as well. As we arrived at the airport under armed escort, a member of the airport ground crew said: “Today I will go home, I will take off these clothes, and I will put on only black. As a Libyan, I am so sorry this has happened.”

Thanks for your excellent report. If only the Republican trolls, plus McCain and Graham too, would read this instead of seeking to make "brownie points" with the public, perhaps they and our Senate could get back to doing something for a change instead of grandstanding.

The personal attack on Susan Rice Outrageous?

No, Mr. President. It should be on you, because you made the UN Ambassador go out on News Programs 5 times humilating this woman,, and told her to lie---"The Film Lie".

She is not fit to fill a Secretary of State Cabinet Position. How will the American Public ever believe her "next" story when there is a calamity of huge proportions. It's all about "Lies", and more Lies, still coming to what he thinks is a stupid American Public.

She doesn't deserve this important decision, because now her Credibility has been ruined. All she did was follow your Orders.

Put her somewhere else, that has nothing to do with the Fragility of our Foreign Affairs--There is Chaos, War, The Petraeus Scandal never really explained, the constant War in Afghanistan. The Military will take her credibility very lightly, and so will other Leaders of Countries. They don't like being lied to either.

Fire her--she is baggage to your Administration. Start with a Clean Slate for Cabinet Positions. You don't owe any of your friends anything, Mr. President. Americans want a strong, unbiased Leader.

Just telling the Truth.,

Damn, girl: Amanda - stop cutting and pasting - or at least site the source of all of this so anyone that wants to can read it for themselves. Paraphrase then cite - okay, please?

UNLESS it comes from a "news-tainment" source: there isn't a point to reading political spin doctored by Hannity, Rush, etc.

Alex:

Having trouble pasting links.

The first article was from ABC news.

The second article about Ambassador Stevens can be found by doing a search for Ethan Chorin, NY Times, an article titled 'What Libya Lost'.

It's great that Hillary is stepping down but Rice is no replacement! She was either complicit or stupid to blame everything on the video and Egypt. She needs to become a community organizer.

Just for the record, I have been to many US embassies around the world...83 to be exact and over 100 US consulates. There is a huge difference in the security between a US embassy and a US consulate. Some US consulates have little or no security. They are simply an office in an office building or a converted private residence as in the case of Benghazi, Libya.

Yes, I would like the links for further reading.

For the original ABCNews article in post 5:

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/10/security-team-commander-says-ambassador-stevens-wanted-his-team-to-stay-in-libya-past-august-2/

For Ethan Chorin's NY Times article:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/14/opinion/what-libya-lost-when-ambassador-stevens-died.html?pagewanted=all

"But it is done and over with, and the focus now should not be on 'who's to blame' but 'how can we keep this from happening again?" Say what? Very convenient to allow all the culprits from the Obama administration, from Obama himself, all the way down to the general, Sec. of State, Rice, the AG, etc. go free with NO consequences? Hey, lady, FOUR Americans died, including our ambassador, the personal representative of the "President", who was killed and raped and dragged thru the streets and you say oh, it's ok, stop here? Hell, Nixon resigned for Watergate, a much smaller offense where NO ONE got killed. Boy, you have gall.

PS - And don't give us links to ABC and the NY Times. I would wipe my butt with the Times.

I hear all the redneck states want to secede--GREAT!! Don't let the door hit your arse on the way out. I hear many in the south still fly the confederate flag.

We don't need bigoted, racist, selfish, angry, do-nothings hanging around. Form your own country with your military dictatorship government. Then, good luck surviving without the government handouts you're so used to getting. Without the redneck states sucking this economy dry, we will start running a surplus.

anthony said:

"But it is done and over with, and the focus now should not be on 'who's to blame' but 'how can we keep this from happening again?" Say what? Very convenient to allow all the culprits from the Obama administration, from Obama himself, all the way down to the general, Sec. of State, Rice, the AG, etc. go free with NO consequences?

Hillary is stepping down. From what I've read and seen, the blame lies with the state dept who didn't pass along the diplomatic team's request for another extension of the SST. As Hillary is the head of the State Dept she should not be able to keep her job (which apparently she is not, as she will no longer be Secretary of state after January 1st)and President Obama has already expressed regret about the role his administration played in the tragedy. I would not hold him personally responsible for the 4 Americans' deaths as it looks as though he may never have known about the request for extra security and would not have been able to deny what he did not know about. I am quite positive that he personally regrets those deaths with every fiber of his being, because reportedly Stevens was his friend.

FOUR Americans died, including our ambassador, the personal representative of the "President", who was killed and raped and dragged thru the streets

You know, I'd like to know where people are getting that. He died of smoke inhalation according to the doctors at the hospital, and if there were signs of violence on the body, do you not think that his family would have been raising hell about it when his body came home for burial? There would have been something on the autopsy reports, the mortuary who prepared him for a funeral, probably whoever checks bodies as they are coming in the country would have noticed too. The fact that I have not seen any concrete evidence from any credible source, and his own family has not said anything of the sort, leads me to conclude the rumors must be incorrect.

PS - And don't give us links to ABC and the NY Times. I would wipe my butt with the Times.

Leaving aside the crude bathroom reference, Ethan Chorin is a writer on his own merit and what he writes may not be indicative of the general tenor of the newspaper as a whole. I found the article pasted to be very respectful of the Ambassador, giving a clearer picture as to what drove Stevens to make the decision that night to stay in Benghazi instead of returning to the embassy in Tripoli, and found myself in agreement with the writer's wish that this incident not destroy the fragile relations between Libya and America that Ambassador Stevens gave his life to build and maintain.

These wing nuts are unhappy, wasn't Petraeus a possible GOP party candidate? Sorry, he's too human for that. They're unhappy Mormoney couldn't score during the debate about Benghazi. They're unhappy they had Shrub Jr. for eight years, they're unhappy the depression they caused couldn't be pinned on the black man. They're unhappy they lost the presidential election, AGAIN.

Mostly they're unhappy the American people are going on without them. Grow older and die already, that will save Medicare and Social Security. You've been selling anti-middle class, anti-minority, pro bigoted, pro war, crap for so long, sorry we just ain't in the market. When you're done holding your breath and turning blue (no pun intended), we'll talk.

Here is my problem with it...Consulates and Embassies usually have a Marine presence...But here the US hired some Libyan group called the March 13th group, or something like that, that never showed at the first sign of trouble....

So why the fu** did we do that?? Why pay a group of people in a country that doesn't really like us to run "security" for us??

Now you Liberals I don't want to hear about how Bush did this and Bush did that...It's wrong no matter what...And Amanda if you see the photos you don't bleed from smoke inhalation...But either way he was murdered...I set your house on fire while you are in it and you die of smoke inhalation I am guilty of murder...There's no getting around that fact no matter how you spin it....

And Pat in So Cal wasn't the left calling him "Betrayus" at one point because he was a leftover from the Bush Admin?? Funny how that works huh??

@Amanda: " I would not hold him personally responsible for the 4 Americans' deaths as it looks as though he may never have known about the request for extra security and would not have been able to deny what he did not know about". What kind of conclusion is that you're jumping to (that he can't deny what he doesn't know)? This is pure conjecture on your part, and that's why we NEED a FULL investigation. military experts have said that people on the ground do not paint targets with lasers unless there is already an aircraft overhead ready to fire. So, the assumption is that a plane/drone was there and because of direct orders it did not attack. Those orders had to come from the WH. As regards Clinton, no it is not enough that she resigns. Her resignation alone is not a "consequence". She should be investigated to the fullest regardless of where it leads. You statement: "But it is done and over with, and the focus now should not be on 'who's to blame' but 'how can we keep this from happening again" is an excuse for a cover-up, which by the way you did not address in your retort.

@Pat in SoCal, you're a sad, pathetic and angry Marxist.

Anthony your a repuke drone just fly away like you bytches said you would if President Obama was re-elected!

Most Embassies (except in a war zone) have anywhere from 7 to 15 Marines in the detachment, not a company of heavy armed assault troops. The Marine Guard is for security within the grounds and ceremonies. The security outside the grounds is handled by local forces.

It depends on the size of the Embassies.

Yes the problems that went wrong need to discovered and corrected. BUT let's keep politics out of it.

Ambssator Rice hasn't done anything wrong, I am still not convinced that the crude film wasn't the trigger for the event. It was in next Eygpt and on the same night.

Let the facts come out and even if they prove the President or his administration didn't do anything wrong. Faux and Idiots will claim it was a cover up.

Hell, they couldn't even get the election polls right...... let's investigate Faux for lying to the public.

Al my god...Really?? You still think the film was the reason?? So now that the President has backtracked from that and has said that it may well be an act of terrorism, are you now calling him a liar?? Which one is it?? If Rice was told to say that by the Administration then no she has done nothing wrong....But if she WASN'T told to say that then yes she did by putting herself on the news talk circuit spewing garbage...Why not find out with an investigation?

Anthony said:

What kind of conclusion is that you're jumping to (that he can't deny what he doesn't know)? This is pure conjecture on your part, and that's why we NEED a FULL investigation.

Per the original article I posted above:

Investigators are exploring whether anyone at the State Department told the Embassy specifically not to request another extension.

I never said we didn't need a full investigation. I was trying to get across that the focus of the investigation shouldn't be fingerpointing and laying blame; it should be 'what went wrong so we don't have this happen again?'

military experts have said that people on the ground do not paint targets with lasers unless there is already an aircraft overhead ready to fire. So, the assumption is that a plane/drone was there and because of direct orders it did not attack. Those orders had to come from the WH.

I've heard nothing about 'lasers', could you point me in the direction of a credible source who said there were people on the ground pointing lasers?

If there were, could the extremists have had laser-guidance on their weapons?

Could crowd members have been directing laser pointers into the air to confusse and keep air support from possible assistance? In my municipality there's been an epidemic of criminals who are running from cops pointing lasers up into police helicopters to keep the pilots from being able to see their target.

And just as I was making an assumption that the White House was never told about the request for SST extension, so you, too, now are making assumptions that there was a plane or drone overhead that didn't fire on explicit orders.

Supposing there were a drone, how do we know this wasn't a surveillance drone, not carrying weaponry with which to mount an offensive strike?

How do we know this was a US drone, not another country's?

How do we know the extremists might not have had an aircraft in the air providing support?

Who was responsible for letting President Obama know that one of our drones was overflying the scene?

There's been a lot of talk about President Obama having been on the way to the West Coast for a television show of some sort, and that he wasn't informed of the attack for a couple hours.

Her resignation alone is not a "consequence". She should be investigated to the fullest regardless of where it leads.

No, Mrs. Clinton should not be investigated to the fullest extent. The incident needs to be investigated to the fullest extent, from the Libyans' response to the assault, to the lack of funding for embassy security, to the person at the State Department who may have given orders that the diplomatic team not be given another SST, to Ambassador Stevens' decision to not return to the embassy in Tripoli after his day's meetings were over but to stay overnight in a poorly-guarded satellite consulate office.

You statement: "But it is done and over with, and the focus now should not be on 'who's to blame' but 'how can we keep this from happening again" is an excuse for a cover-up, which by the way you did not address in your retort.

I didn't address it because I thought it was clear--you cannot figure out how to keep an event from happening again unless there is a full investigation to reveal details to how it happened in the first place. Let me clarify my original statement, as I left a couple of words out that perhaps didn't make my meaning clear to you (though it seems that others did understand):

The focus of the investigation now should not be 'who is to blame' but 'how do we keep this from happening again'.

Per this statement, this is what I see as being needed:

A full investigation needs to be conducted.

The focus should be on what went wrong this time so safeties can be put in place to ensure it never happens again.

The Secretary of State should step down as it was apparently under her watch that the negligence took place.

Whoever it was at the State Dept who did not pass the diplomatic team's request for the SST's extension should be fired and penalized (if there is proven to be such a person.)

Departmental directives should be in place that would prohibit diplomatic staff from staying overnight in any place but a guarded, protected, fortified official embassy. There should not be overnights in consulate offices in volatile conflict areas.

Rob, have you ever been outside the USA? and if so... let me guess... a trip to Cancun or a fishing trip to Canada?

Look at how pissed off the Evangelicals got when it was mentioned that Jesus might of had a wife.

Or how pissed off people get over a college team rivalry.

You walk all over someone else's religion, just to piss them off.... and then cry "foul" if your actions lead to things you disagree with.

I don't trust the GOP to conduct a fair investigation. Issa and his fellow idiots already blew the cover on an on going CIA operation - just to make himself look important.

Not all drones are capable of being armed.

AL I lived in Europe for many years and travelled to numerous countries...What does that have to do with anything in Libya?? You didn't answer my question....Which is it?? Did they storm the Embassy because of a movie or,as the President now agrees with, that it most likely was a terrorist attack?? Yes of course you don't trust the GOP just as the right doesn't trust the Dems...How about a bi-partisan committee?? And now I'll wait for your "The GOP won't allow a bi-partisan committee"

And so Freedom of speech only pertains to things that other people are ok with?? Yes don't say anything that might make someone mad...

These people that murdered the 4 Americans most like had NO idea about the damn film, but yet "we" allow them to now have that as an out to murder American citizens...You are pathetic....

Rob - as to "freedom of speech" you can't yell "Fire" in a crowded movie theather and not be held accountable for the results.

As the film.. it has already been proven that protests and riots broke out in other countries and then the attack in Benghazi. Now whether the film was the cause of the attack or cover for the attack, but the question remains "If the film wasn't made, would there of been an attack?"

And Rob, when you call someone "pathetic" look in the mirror first.

But what is really "pathetic" is that the GOP doesn't care about what happened, only that they see it as a way to get back in power after getting "bitch-slapped" in the election.

Live in the present not the past and you might actually enjoy your life for once.

Funny how Dems are defending Obama when he is supposedly given bad intelligence, but are more than willing to go after Bush when the same thing happens. However, we do have reports that Obama wasn't given erroneous intelligence, but instead chose to ignore what he was given. That is worse than believing what you are given and having it proven wrong.

Funny how you're willing to defend someone who is willing to cause American deaths because he want's to ignore good intelligence but are willing to go after someone who had been given bad intelligence.

Oh, by the way, do you realize that Clinton butchered the intelligence field before he left office and it took years to build it back up? But hey, since it did not happen within hours, it's not his fault, but the fault of Bush, who had to rebuild it.

Both events are outrageous. If either president was ever found to have for certain fore-knowledge of these events, then they should be arrested. I will accept that either or both of them had bad intelligence reports. I will not accept if either or both of them failed at their job as Commander-in-Chief.

I hate Lindsey Graham..she is such a disrespectful little bitch.

Remember, Dems, history has NO bearing on the present!

@Randy, it's obvious you have no clue what you're even talking about, Lindsey Graham is a man.

Nor do they remember what happened to the Marine Baracks bombing in 1983 in Beirut. No one mentions how that happened under Reagans watch of course. Or of course 9/11 which happened under Bush/Cheyney. Also the USS Cole that happened under Clinton. The point is security lapses happen and no one can prevent them all. Yes, we need to get to the truth to prevent it from happening again, but to call a Watergate type investigation as if the President Himself broke into the opposition headquarters to steal election plans is dumb.

John McCain this type of stuff is EXACTLY why America didn't want you as President. You're an old coot who is living on past glory. Retire honorably already will ya?

Funny how you're willing to defend someone who is willing to cause American deaths because he want's to ignore good intelligence but are willing to go after someone who had been given bad intelligence.

What's worse? That you think Bush was President instead of Cheney, or that you think they got bad intelligence? These wars kicked started the privatization of our Armed Forces into high gear. The only thing required for the success of it, was to stay at war. What better way than to have two going at the same time.

Why did the Bush administration take away the responsibility of the feeding, clothing, maintaining, repairing, supplying, building and anything else that didn't involve being on the from lines from our Armed Forces? The wars costs skyrocketed because we were paying civilians to do the work.

People were opting to not re enlist just so they could get a job with a contractor and make 5 times as much doing the same damn thing.

Also, starting two wars isn't what I call sparing American lives. Bad intelligence? Hardly. Bush was all too happy to turn his back on us in Afghanistan the day he got his self proclaimed Holy War in Iraq. He left us high and dry and constantly took equipment and troops from us in the fight to get Bin Laden.

We could have been out of there in 2003 if Bush would have stayed focused. Now we have Iran on the verge of nuclear capabilities because he took out the only person bat crap crazy enough to keep them in their place. Not to mention, the whole Middle East fell even more into chaos.

You say bad intelligence and I say war profiteering.

Roadkill,

Those who cannot remember the past, are doomed to repeat it.

pzphiml says that,

Clinton butchered the intelligence field before he left office

Yeah, I understand he put Sean Hannity in charge of that field !! Now there's the definition of an oxymoron !!

I think Randy knows that. Ha ha Randy

Umm, didn't bush/cheney out the CIA agent in charge of looking for WMD? Why would they do that? Because there were no WMD to find?

Bottom line. A lot of good people died because of that and it was years before anyone would talk to Americans in that region.

Why is outing a spy ok? Did I mention it was one of OUR spies?

Obama lied...again. Americans died. He is an accomplice to murder and terrorism.

I hear all the redneck states want to secede--GREAT!! Don't let the door hit your arse on the way out. I hear many in the south still fly the confederate flag.

We don't need bigoted, racist, selfish, angry, do-nothings hanging around. Form your own country with your military dictatorship government. Then, good luck surviving without the government handouts you're so used to getting. Without the redneck states sucking this economy dry, we will start running a surplus.

Roadkill: The present is the product of history. Anything changes, everything changes. The caps are convincing.

NEW RULE

You Republicans that voted for Bush.Who lied and caused the deaths of 4,000 Americans.

You can't now show fake concern about the deaths of 4 Americans in Libya,hypocrites.

EJC, you make a good analysis. Namely that terrible security breaches have cost American lives both at home and abroad under most Presidents. They should be investigated to find any security problems that may be fixed.

Just to add to your analysis, Sen McCain and Sen Lindsey have no desire to improve our security, but rather are only interested in publically beating their own breasts to avoid their failed attempt to defeat the Democrats.

It's stuff like this that crys out for single term limits on all elected offices so that re-election is never an option for any elected job-holder, and lobbyists have nobody to buy.

9-11 HAPPENED UNDER BUSH & CHENEY...NEVER FORGET!!!

Kennedy and Johnson killed thousands in Vietnam. Never forget.

Hoover crashed the stock market...

KEY2JOY your a broken record, lets clear up a couple of things in the year leading up to the 9/11 attack the cia was getting daily hundreds of reports on POSSIBLE attacks, it was the job of bushes staff to review and make suggestions thats why he has a cabinet, bush doesnt make decisions by himself and neither does obama, and since you got a real issue with pointing fingers go back and look at the vote for the war it was almost unaminous both dems and reps voted to declare war...your a very confused person to think the president makes a decision of that nature on his own. I can see the hate you spew regarding bush but he did do some great things for this country, but after 4 years what has obama contributed to america....almost doubled the deficit, lent billions to huge corporations to bail them out and how many of these acts have helped america , we still ahve foreclosures we still have unemployment, and we have one of the biggest illegal issues in the world with obama at the helm billions are spent to support an illegals mandate that does nothing for america, these are criminals but im sure you forget that when sreaming about 9-11, so key you ever come up with something vital lets hear it. have a great day

And FDR kept America in a depression for his first 8 years.

Jwoop... Sure.. and The Marine Barracks bombing happened under Reagan, the Republican Saint who did no wrong... the truth is all of our Presidents are men. They aren't gods. None of them can protect us from everything. Neither Dem or Republican. And while you may say F*** you Obama, it was actually Romney and his supporters like you who the country said "Go F*** yourselves" to. Don't worry.. Obamacare covers depression.. be happy:)

Zap: The facts do not support your statement. The New Deal put in place by FDR resulted in 9% economic growth year after year. That is success by anyone's standard and is why he kept getting re-elected.

Compare that to hoover and bush/cheney, who gave us the Great Depression and the Great Recession.

David Sirota: FDR Prolonged the Depression? Really? - Truthdig

First off they knew the danger when they took the job, get over it, I lost friends to embassy jobs. No one blamed Reagan or looked into his dumb reugn of the country. Next look at Bush on and the attack on Marine base, no one looked into that, then Bush 2. So get over it, your guy lost, live with it or move out of the country, but that's right, other countries live within a socialized healthcare system, governments don't bully the people, because those countries realize they work for the people. Why is Bush, Cheney and Rumsfield not under a jail, talk about crimes against humanity, and you people bring up a special prison under Obama. Idiots, the lot of you

Smartone /milkit,

What did Hoover do to crash the stock market? Be specific in your answer.

What about Roosevelt's 1938 Recession? If not for WWII starting, we might still be in it today.

I'm convinced that Bush/Cheney did a false flag on 9/11 just to throw the police state on us and start the Arab wars. Got away with it too. Just like some of the same ilk killed the Kennedys........and got away with it.

Grandma got run over by the reindeer

I hear all the redneck states want to secede--GREAT!! Don't let the door hit your arse on the way out. I hear many in the south still fly the confederate flag.

We don't need bigoted, racist, selfish, angry, do-nothings hanging around. Form your own country with your military dictatorship government. Then, good luck surviving without the government handouts you're so used to getting. Without the backwards redneck states sucking this economy dry, we will start running a surplus.

CONFUSED3012211: NAME FITS YOU PERFECTLY!

YOUR hate,like you and your mutated friends need to be seperated from our society WITH NO MORE regards than discarding rotten apples fropm a barrel.

The dictaorship, just like Stalin is Obama and the morons that support his "something for nothing" mentality as well as villianizing successful businesses and indiviguals...just like Stalin and his Russia! ..WE all saw how that failed!

YOU show your extreme ignorance and indifference by your shallow and uneducated remarks!

@Zapwhatever....Johnson and Nixon killed people in Vietnam. Kennedy sent advisors and then died before things got ugly over there. The class was called History, sorry you skipped it.

viewer k-I can see the hate you spew regarding bush but he did do some great things for this country,

What were they? I can't think of a single one.