Much as I have no desire to see people naked (Jeremy Renner not withstanding), I have to wonder why our society is so ashamed of the human body. Every other creature on the planet is nude and we don't think twice about it, but running around in the skin we were born with disgusts us? Our priorities are pretty messed up.

Speak for yourself there AG99. People need to understand that public places are for all of us and the last thing I want is for my little kids to be exposed to what basically amounts to perverts who get rocks off having other people see them naked. If they want to run around naked do it in a private location or in a place that promotes...pretty sure most people run around naked in their house, isn't that enough? freakin' hippies...honestly....to each their own but find private locations so its just you pervs forced to look at eachother and not us. I'm not raising my kids around weirdos that get off on public nudity.

Yes, but why do you consider nudity perverted? Why should it be? We're trained from birth to regard it as such; my point is that this is baseless.

Now if they were playing with themselves in public, then I can see a case for the perversion argument, but just not wearing clothes? It should be a non-issue.

I should add that the nudity thing is intollerable enough, it's all the rest of the garbage that comes with it that got your ban there sickos.

AG, I do not consider it as such. I consider people who have a need to expose the rest of us to their lifestyle in public to be perverted. Public places are not for running around naked. Most people do not share the belief. We have to have some boundaries

I am ever so slightly to the left of Al Sharpton, and I don't think naked people walking down the sidewalk with their floompy boobs or dirty junk is something I think means freedom. I don't want to see it. Do it in your back yard or in a camp in the woods, but please, not at Macy's or Bud's grill. I would not want to be seated at a stool where your naked ass has been.

That is what I was trying to say...just less descriptive...and it's always well, like Bufaloe said, not appealling in any way whatsoever....plus I have to explain all the other inappropriate behavior displayed by the more extreme ones who take it even further.

Thanks Buffalo. Now I will go burn that image out of my eyes....lol.

Most clothed people are just as disgusting. Get over it.

Okay, you haven't entirely convinced me, but I can see your point.

I can't be alone in that line of thinking. It's simple, flop and jiggle in your own privacy or with other likeminded individuals in a private setting. Honestly, if I had to guess it is the public sex, naked people walking around schools and one too many ___— flopping around on the bus that did that in. Some people just take some things way to far.

I honestly can't see how one doesn't see that as an issue but hey, to each their own.

Clearly the guy in the background of the photo does not have a problem with it....lol.

There is clearly a problem .. and those who feel a blanket ban on public nudity is going to solve it are fooling themselves. The people who've created the problem are still going to be drunk, high or disorderly in public. They will simply move on to a different kind of violation to get the attention they're seeking.

This is an issue similar to legislating pornography. We know when we see it, but defining it in law is another thing. In other words, this should not be a total ban; but it is too difficult for political minded folks to draft and support such a solution.

Glad SF took this action. Seems to always be the ugly ones. Few images uglier than naked people who like to display their total ugliness.

No wonder nobody wants to go to San Francisco anymore! It used to be a beautiful city. Now it's filled with drug-addicts shooting up in the streets, gays and perverts walking around naked, a lot of homeless people and filthy, greasy, haven't showered in days, wannabe hippies. Just what you want to sit on - a bus bench where a non-showering, filthy pervert sat.

You couldn't give me a house to live in that cesspool!

And to AG99:

Being naked is perverted when perverts and other freaks are naked. These people are both!

Can you give your definition of ugly?

AG, were you aware that all the primitive tribes studied by ethnographers have a loincloth minimum when in public? Children are exempt until puberty. Why is this practice so universal among tribes that have never consulted each other?

All S.F. is saying is, come up the minimum level of dress of primitive hunter-gatherers. And, there's an exemption for festivals! You really think that's too uptight?

Problem is, most of the ones that get their rocks off exposing themselves are the ones that look better clothed. Just look at the creepy old guy in the pic, eewwwww.

@kpm58#1.14: It's one of those things one knows when one see's It. I have no objection to viewing a beautiful woman naked. Being hetrosexual, I don't care to see any males nude. Even so, in this day, as someone above put it, I wouldn't want to sit on a stool that had just been vacated by even a beautiful womans ass. Wouldn't trust where that ass had been, what might have been on it, or what might have leaked out of It while it rested on that stool.

Every other creature on the planet is nude

What about a hermit crab?

No wonder nobody wants to go to San Francisco anymore! It used to be a beautiful city. Now it's filled with drug-addicts shooting up in the streets, gays and perverts walking around naked, a lot of homeless people and filthy, greasy, haven't showered in days, wannabe hippies. Just what you want to sit on - a bus bench where a non-showering, filthy pervert sat.

You couldn't give me a house to live in that cesspool!

3/10 Obvious troll is Obvious

The only reason humans should NOT walk around in public nude is simple...

It is not healthy to do so on many levels such as decency, physical injury,social injury, public concern and outrage, going into any business, sanitation, restaurants and food, and the list goes on...it is just not healthy to do so.

Now should we celebrate our naked born bodies and human nature? Well of course, with DECENCY AND RESPECT. That does not mean walk down naked through the streets and show everyone you love being naked.

In closing... not everyone is "decent and respects" your naked body... so please.. for all humanity...put cloths on in public:)

My thoughts on this are as such. Don't tell me how to live and I won't tell you. However, when you throw it in my face, I will have no choice but to do the same. IMHO, they are throwing it in the publics face.

I don't think there is anything wrong with being naked, sometimes the human body is a work of art. I personally would not get naked in public. However, I will draw the line that I should have the right to protest sitting down on public transportation in someone elses junk fluids.

I'm all in favor of public nudity just as long as the ladies are between the age of 20's and 40's only.

Was exposed to this in The City a few weeks back after kayaking around the bay.

Girl was without anything below the waist but had on a long jacket. Did a double-take when I first noticed and sure as hell, she was necked! Young and not bad looking so wasn't offended;-)

Now, a marauding band of necked gay men, now that'd be a bit annoying. Especially the sassy ones.

Still, the human body can be a spectacular thing to be-hold but licensing should be needed.

My mom was pretty hot, 36 C, but wouldn't want to see that these days, 36 LONG.

AG99: "Yes, but why do you consider nudity perverted? Why should it be?

I have to go with you on this, AG. I, too, "have no desire to see people naked," but this ban is NOT on humans under age 5. So what suddenly happens at age 5? Being naked after the age of 5 suddenly becomes perverted?

It's not clear to me.

BTW, just so you know, there was already an ordinance in place which mandates covering any public seat upon which one placed one's naked behind--so hygeine was never the problem. And as far as any sexual activity--this is also a separate issue from nakedness and was dealt with as such.

Also San Francisco is still one of the world's most BEAUTIFUL cities to which hundreds of thousands of visitors flock each year. I have NEVER seen any "drug-addicts shooting up in the streets, gays and perverts walking around naked," etc. As for "wannabe hippies"--you should be so lucky, "Hopeful Am." You don't sound too hopeful to me (but that's just me).

Love and peace to all! ;^)

The vote was 6 to 5. There are plenty of wackos still in charge in San Francisco.

Anybody else see the humor in this?!

AG99

Okay, you haven't entirely convinced me, but I can see your point.

#1.9 - Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:24 PM EST

resolution introduced by a guy named WIENER? ROFLMFAO!!

@ amused

Very good. lol

Absurdist humor at it's best?

God I hope so...

the thought of Pelosi naked alone is a reason to pass this ban ... and for tearing my own eyes out, lol.

can't ban christmas - where would all of the end of the years sales profits come from otherwise???

put a fork in it

can't ban christmas - where would all of the end of the years sales profits come from otherwise???

Let me retort...(with sarcasm so I don't upset anyone)

Yes they can ban christmas... the unions and hostess together banned TWINKIES and HO HO's ...and trust me, once the twinkies and HO HO's go down...christmas will be next.

Santa loosing his HO'HO's will be a tragedy and christmas stock will fall like a rock...

But there is always the new year and Grupo Bimbo will buy Hostess and then guess what....

We will have those amazing BIMBO HO' HO's :) HAPPY HOLIDAYS !

Rick in CO: "Also for all of those idiots out there in California and other states who think Christmas should be banned, you need to shut up and move to Yemen you imbeciles!"

Merry Christmas to you too, Rick!

No one in CA "banned Christmas." If you are referring to what happened in Santa Monica--the city council stopped ALL Christmas displays on public property because of the hatred and vandalism by the so-called "Christians" against their "Atheist" brother's display. That's all. If the Christians had practiced love and tolerance--all displays would have been allowed (as, indeed, they were last year)--

But, unfortunately, the Santa Monica "Christians" involved were like you, Rick. With respect, it's abusive rants like your own that give Christians and Christmas a bad name. And I, too, am very sad that Santa Monica banned that lovely 16 booth life-size Nativity display. I saw it 50 years ago when I was small and its magic remains with me to this very day.

Merry Christmas!

Rick: "The reason this country is losing its traditional values is because of far left morons and others who think they can tell others what to think! Shut up you losers!"

Oh Rick! You do need a hug, don't you? Aren't you telling others what to do and think? No free speech for your fellow Americans? Just "shut up you losers?"

Are you really a Christian, Rick? Because, if so, ....whoopsie!

If you're going to heaven--hell looks good to me! Merry Christmas, Rick!

You have clearly never been to Nude Fest!

S.F. has a special parade,

Sadomasochistic,

I ain't $hit'n ya!

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/pelosi-sadomasochistic-last-supper-ad-doesnt-harm-christianity

Indie & Proud: "As a matter of fact it almost seems that is why they have parades, fairs and festivals so they can get naked in public. I for one have never seen nudity at and parade, fair or festival I have even been at."

Huh?

If you've "never seen nudity at and parade, fair or fesitival"--then I don't think that's "why they have parades, fairs or festivals so they can get naked in public," right? Your statement is confusing.

Can't you guys just open up some nudist bistros and bars and just go there. That would be acceptable to most of the rest of us as long as you wait till you get there to go bday suit.

..and clothed obese women look better?

let's go with less unattractive....

Belmontkid,6

that last statement doesn't cut it in our society. The rules must apply to all or none no matter your preference. Can't people just go to a strip joint or watch some porn to see the individuals you describe?

I am actually lmao really. I can't believe this issue wasn't resolved ages ago....only in SF. At least it is a one of a kind American town I guess.

The problem is more the ones that ruin it for everybody by taking things way to far...I'd bet money on it.

Indeed. It does enormous damage to progress on many fronts...for many people.

Who wants to see it? The closest animal to us, the monkeys, are naturally clothed. The human body is not meant to be nude. It has no protection of its own against the elements, its upfront and outright, its beautiful only in the eyes of its closest companions. Keep it covered.

First of all the closet animal to us are apes, not monkeys, big different. Second, you're totally wrong. First, the human body have a thing called the skin. You know? The largest part of the human's body protects us against the elements. This skin have something that apes have: hair, these hair are ALL over your body trapping heat and keeping you warm. The hair in your nose protects against unwanted things and that's why you sneeze. The argument of, "But it doesn't protects against the cold!" well duh, most animals are unable to survive and those that does have large amount of fat or a double layer of fur or hibernate or seeks shelter.

Your body can survive the elements, but can't not survive the extremes which is a huge big different between walking in a blizzard and walking in the snow and being next to a fire/a shelter.

MOUZIE,

Why yes. All you say is true...and the 99.999% of the rest of us would like it if you'd cover it up in public so we don't have to see it.

Sheila, the monkeys have their own public nudity issues, namely chronic masturbation....

So you guys think the human body could survive without clothing? You could stay outside in searing heat or subzero weather and survive without some kind of clothing protection? Monkeys or apes, they have enough body hair to protect themselves. I could go without shaving for ages, and I still would freeze to death in the outside if I was nude. I would still get a blistering sunburn in the tropics. We are the only species that wear clothing for a reason. Excepting those poor unfortunate animals, mostly dogs, whose human owners see a need to clothe them. Oh, and horses with their blankets.

Did we say that? I debunked your claims that the human body have no protection against the elements and I proved you're wrong. By your claims, a person should stand naked in the cold and expect to be fine? That's a very stupid statement, the body design is to enable to survive to SEEK SHELTER.

I also knew you would use that claim of the extremes which I said the human body isn't fit for it. Even Fido the family pet will not survive, he like us will seek a shelter or find a way to stay warm.

Honestly, saying that you expect a human being to stand out in the hot or cold like a moron just completely killed your argument.

It would take a while to kill you in extreme cold, I highly doubts you wouldn't seek a shelter and if you wouldn't you're clearly not very intelligent if you don't understand how the human body works.

And the human mind is evolved enough to seek clothing. How about we let all these nudists go frolicking in the Antarctic in their natural state? And Fido the family pet is already growing that extra layer of hair she needs to withstand the outside if I should choose to put her out there. Humans have known since all time that they have to kill animals for their fur to withstand the elements. I know this, you don't?

PS, Humans, for the most part, don't shed for the seasons.

I am signing off, but I want to leave you with this thought. I know the skin is the biggest organ, but it is also the one most susceptible to damage. Melanoma? Frostbite? That is why we protect it.

EXACTLY!!!!!!!! ;)

Another one down: "I have said it before and I will say it again nudity doesn't bother me but what does is when they sit on public transit, this is unsanitary not everyone is clean down there and may be diseased"

I said it before--but obviously it bears repeating:

"BTW, just so you know, there was already an ordinance in place which mandates covering any public seat upon which one placed one's naked behind--so hygeine was never the problem. And as far as any sexual activity--this is also a separate issue from nakedness and was dealt with as such."

So with respect, "Another one down"--your point is moot. ;^)

Thanks Jerry! :D

Jerry , go back under your rock!! The west coast is liberal. and if you dont like it leave, if you dont live there, then shut your hole!!!

Jerry: "Then again I don't wish to see 2 naked guys beating the hell outta each other"

How do you feel about prize fighting? Hockey? American Football? War? Or is it ok for "2 guys to beat the hell outta each other" as long as they're clothed?

Just curious.

Humans instinctively know that even if their natural state is nude, they can't survive in that state. Thats why we immediately swaddle our babies on birth. We don't have the resources, on our own, to withstand the elements. We are the most bare-ass species out there, and fortunately we have been given the brains to overcome and survive.

There was already a law on the books stating that a cloth had to be between your a$$ and the seat, on any public transit.

Thats good. Come on, people, we are the only species that have naked in their vocabulary. Its because we realize what that means. Simply put, it means stripped bare, and we realize thats not an option for us. We just cannot survive in that state. If you think we can, sit outside in your natural state in December in the midwest for a month or two.

Sheila--I accidently voted you up when I wanted to hit "reply."

Question: How do you know "we're the only species that have naked in their vocabulary?" Do you speak "Chimpanzee?" "Dolphin?" "Coyote?" How many other species' languages do you speak?

Just curious.

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It might have been hurting the kids who weren't used to it. Adults might overlook it, kids might wonder what in the world is going on.

Then I hope those world wondering kids have wonderful parents, like mine, who allowed me to formulate my own opinions after teaching me how to gather facts, think for my self, and learn about all this world has to teach us.

I don't know, I would rather not have a 13 yr old son ogling some nude girl, or have a 13 yr old daughter wondering if the guy with the big nipples was the norm. At that age, all they are thinking of is nudity as how it pertains to sex.