MrRighteous,

That'll never happen. What is it with you people that say guns "have" to be banned? It's too late. From the day they were invented they will never go away.

Give me a plan to ban guns that will work....... waiting...... See, there is none.

Ban "anything" you want in this entire world and the good Samaritan will comply whilst the criminals will "still" have them no matter what it is. Ban cars, bicycles, guns, knives, ect... The perps will still have them and the good samaritan will be sitting ducks.

Have a nice day...

To bad the Guy didnt have a ax to cut off the hand..Then they (Anti Guns nuts) can put on banned the ax campaign..Raise the tax on it...lol

Good Job Samaritan!!

Will to Power

Any Samaritan who uses a knife is good-ish at best.

I may be hazy on the details, but I don't recall his namesake being armed.

Karma's a b. Try robbing a man in a wheelchair and you get stabbed in the chest.

They future prison inmates got what they deserved (at least one of them anyway). So, at fifteen, they are robbing the wheelchair bound. Who shall be next? The blind? Hope they catch the others involved and throw ALL their stupid a$$es in jail. REAL jail, not some juvie detention camp.

@roadlesstraveled,

Would you rather have the person stand there and watch as a handicapped person is robbed by three POS? Those kids have already show 0 reguard for the general public and should be imprisoned for life.

Knowing the way things work in this country the would be robber will probably find some ambulance chaser of a lawyer to sue the good samaritan for using excessive force. What is even worse is that there would be a 50-50 chance that the would be robber would win the suit, particularly if the would be robber was not armed. Some idiotic jury would look at it as the same as a cop shooting an unarmed suspect. This is the reason that many people simply do not want to get involved, the lawyers find way to make them regret it, even when they do the right thing.

roadlesstraveled: I guess you are one of the Teens who got away. Got some advice for you. TURN YOUR SELF IN.

roadlesstraveled,

OMG man. I'm guessing you voted for yourself and most probably will be the only one. Pffft! Heh heh...

What about crossbows, you know, small, concealable crossbows? See, they should have banned stones and sticks hundreds of thousands of years ago and we wouldn't be having this problem today!

MrRighteous

Smart-alek remark alert.

Along with banning guns, all stabbing type devises will have to be banned.

AND forks, some spoons, paper (wicked sharp edge) OH AND anyones sharp sense of humor.

HAHAHAH

These wanna be thugs were committing a crime that thought would be easy taking and no one would do anything about it, well guess what they were wrong! Don't care what you say they started the crime therefore had to deal with any number of possible outcomes, just happened to be the wheel (no pun)landed on good samaritan intervenes, get stabbed in chest. They were lucky that was all it was. Not to mention 3 on one, I wouldn't be taking any chances either and would do whatever I could to level the playing field.

If more people would act and stand up for themselves or others you would see less petty crimes like this. These kids obviously have issues, 15 yrs old and starting their life of crime, only good thing is perhaps they can turn their lives around yet still. But really what a bunch of tough guys 3 people to commit the robbery and it is a person in a wheelchair, cowards. Like another person said what's next blind people, yes or maybe stop by a state hospital an go after some kids that are mentally handicapped. Again worthless little cowards.

So roadlesstraveled deal with it. The perps lost and that is how it should've been. Don't see what your problem is or why you feel bad for them, what about the victim? Maybe you would stand by and wet yourself but fortunately there are others who will man up and do what is right.

JS - no kidding huh, wouldn't surprise me in the least. One of those screwed up things that is eating away at our country. People complaining about lost morals in society, well that is one reasons why, afraid of being legally robbed for doing the right thing, very sad.

Again good job to this guy for doing what is right, hope they catch these little $hitstains, it will be for their own good and everyone elses.

It is time

Give me a plan to ban guns that will work

Sounds like drugs and prostitution, but that's another story.....

JS in SD - it is troublesome to think that is entirely possible. In China they are having even greater issues with people not helping one another in emergency situations because of frivolous lawsuits being allowed.

I for one am very happy to hear that the Samaritan stabbed someone who deserved to be stabbed. He did a much greater service to society than just to the man in the wheelchair.

If the kid had a gun he could have got all three of the would be robbers.

Totally agree w/post by "It is Time"....the punk who tried to rob the man in the wheelchair was actually "saved" by the Good Samaritan..and you wanna know why...because next time this thief attempts to steal, trust me, the negative reaction he just received in the chest will be a reminder to him about he best think twice before robbing someone. This criminals life was saved because possibly he would have been killed in his next stupid attempt to rob someone..and I sure hope his family or parents or pastor or someone will sit by his bed side not feeling sorry for him but shaking their head on "how could you do this"-"steal from a man , let alone sitting in a wheelchair" and then tell him " Let your boo boo remind you that "Thou shall not steal".........I'm glad this happened, it was meant to be!

It would have been great to see all three were stabbed but this is good enough to start my day, thanks.

Bundgaard...shutup, you're a donkey you're dumb. Nice work Good Samaritan! This article still sucks though; what is going to happen to the Good Samaritan? Will he be sued by the suspect that he stabbed? Does Pennsylivania have a "stand your ground" law like Florida or something similar? Will he be charged with a crime since this was not self defense but rather defending someone else? I'm not familiar with the law in these types of instances since I have never been in the situation. MSN you pay your reporters to investigate and report, do you not? You should make sure they actually so what you pay them to do otherwise you are just paying them, useless.

God Bless the Good Samaritan. He did the right thing. One down, two to go. I hope they find and arrest them all.

re: banning guns

The entity responsible for treaties (read your Constitution) is currently negotiating away your gun rights within those treaties currently being written.

In addition, Obama(s)care (© 2012) requires citizens to list every asset they have. Yes, every asset. Did I mention "every asset" means anything of value? Any privacy you thought you had has been permanently compromised. Bend over; the government is here to help you.

The terrorists are inside the Beltway, not across the pond.

I feel bad for the good samaritan. With the courts being what they are today, bleeding hearts will probably feel bad for the punk who was attempting to rob a wheelchair-bound person and punish this good samaritan somehow. The punk got less than he deserved and the good samaritan deserves immunity from any charges or civil claims resulting from the stabbing.

I'm sorry, but I'm totally confused here; I mean, what the hell does gun "control" have to do with a stabbing? But then again, I guess you anti-gun wackos will get your 2 cents in wherever you can, even if it's totally irrelevant to the discussion at hand.

@roadlesstraveled......too bad the good sam didn't have a 9mm to show these punks what for! I hope some punks rob you and the good sams just stand there and watch...

Creek Dog - I think Mr Righteous was being facetious. As for banning guns - the UK banned guns over a decade ago. In 2011 there were 41 gun related deaths in the UK. There were 9146 in the USA. Not saying the US should ban guns, but just making an objective point.

J_P_PatchesPal_1

Yeah, you want to only ban 'certain guns'......Like all guns in private hands except for an olympic target .22 only kept specifically for competitive shooting and thoroughly registered with ammunition accounted for daily......Oh, by the way, moron, banning guns prevents them from getting in to the wrong hands? How's that drug war going idiot?

Any clown who thinks that banning an inanimate object works to prevent it from being sold and possessed need look no further than drugs.........Banned and plentiful. Criminals will get guns, and now with the ability to manufacture them at home with nothing more than a template and a 3D printer, you'll never prevent criminals from getting them. The ***hat gun-grabbers fail to grasp the simple concept that the vast majority of their neighbors are good, decent, moral people, and that more LEGAL guns, the more LEGAL guns in the hands of good people........Bad people will have them regardless, but gun laws merely shift the ratio from the majority being in decent hands.......To the majority being in the government and criminal hands (think:

MEXICO! idiots)

roadlesstraveled (#1.7): I hate to break it to you, but the robber in you is coming out. You might want to stuff him back in the closet.

I would have just kicked the dumbazz kid in the nuts. Same end result.

Of course, we would have ban and confiscate all feet then.

@spider If you read the thread you will see that gun supporters brought up gun control not the other way around!

To J_P_PatchesPal_1, do you really think criminals care about gun bans? Very few who use a gun in the commission of a crime obtained it by legal means. There are countless guns on the streets that will never see a gun shop or be registered. Banning guns does nothing to stop crime, all it does is keep law abiding citizens from protecting themselves and their family.

As for our good samaritan, good job and thank you for protecting another while putting yourself at risk.

The issue here seems to be less with justifying vigilante justice and more with calling the vigilante a 'good samaritan.' Brave bystander, OK. But good samaritan? That's taking some serious license.

It strikes me too that 'good samaritan' is a christian name emerging from a specific parable and I don't see how any christian can use the phrase to characterize any kind of eye-for-an-eye behavior like stabbing a robber. The good samaritan helped Saul on the road to Damascus; he did not commit an act of violence as part of his deed. And, christians, read the responses here and reflect the next time you feel an anti-islamic sentiment swelling within you; someone here proposed cutting off the robbers' hands. Sounds like Sharia law to me. I suppose there is ultimately a thin line between violent religious extremes...

I completely agree with the very first post by Will to Power: Good-ish at best. Our "samaritan" stabbed a 15 year-old kid in the chest, for chrissake.

(For the simpleminded: One CAN hold this view and still repudiate theft from disabled persons...)

JP Patches,

I totally disagree with your post. It's 100% the opposite.

Have a nice day...

CD

Dylan1234,

OK. If they banned guns in America and there truly were "NO" more left, then the gun related deaths in America in 2011 would be zero "BUT" there would be 9146 deaths related to a weapon of some sort outside of guns.

If someone wants to kill somebody and they don't have a gun, they'll use a knife, bat, rock, car, poison, hands, drown, bow & arrow, cross-bow, etc... Go ahead, ban guns. They'll find another way. That's just how it is. Just making "another" objective point.

Thanks for bringing it to my attention and have a good Thanksgiving.

CD

Creek dog, on the one hand I think sticking up for guns is respectful, but I am dubious about your point that gun violence would be replaced by other means. You know as well as I do that guns are unique as a method of extending humans' seeming desire to inflict violence, revenge, justice, etc. All the other means you list would require far more premeditation, not to mention face-to-face execution of the deed. These attributes would be a significant deterrent (all moral considerations aside). Besides, your post has no merit so long as you don't compare stats among nations with tighter gun restrictions, especially for the period following legislation and enforcement. That is your opinion and nothing more, certainly not an objective point. There is a difference.

Top commenter

Creek dog, on the one hand I think sticking up for guns is respectful, but I am dubious about your point that gun violence would be replaced by other means.

Check the comparative statistics for stabbing deaths between the US and the UK. Everyone touts the low rate of gun deaths there, but doesn't want to talk about stabbing deaths. Oh, and don't make the same mistake most do .... look for per capita or per 100,000 statistics, not just raw numbers. There is a population difference.

Repeat offenders and felons seem to have no problem acquiring guns even though it is illegal for them to own guns, so when you talk about banning guns, what does that tell you about the people who would still have guns since they already know how to get around the legal system? All you would do is leave the people who used to carry guns legally, defenseless - I can imagine the criminal element of the country would love such a law! No more worrying if the person you're mugging has a gun or worrying that a home owner is armed when you break into their home to rob or rape them.

As for this story and these 3 teenagers. Here you have 3 able bodied youths who could earn some money working doing odd jobs and they are attacking a lone man in a wheelchair. They are scum and seem to have found their niche in life early. We'll obviously be seeing them in and out of jail for the rest of their lives if they continue down this path. They already appear to have no qualms about attacking the helpless. Maybe the luckiest of these kids was the one who got stabbed because maybe while he is lying there in the hospital he'll have time to pause and reflect on where his life is going and how he almost died and decide to change. That is if his "friends" don't sneak in and kill him first before he has a chance to rat them out.

Christian Bible Luke 22:36 Jesus said : carry money, travel bag and a sword(macharia). Sikhs say carry knife to be armed against evil and to protect yourself and others. Race and possible criminal record of attackers not given, race of wheel chair victim not given, race and age of defender not given-- but if it is like Milwaukee the likelyhood of 'black' is high. The Gun control posters are trying to push a proven NOT to work agenda- the conceal carry laws in many states show a drop in crime rates a year after passage . A month or so after passage in Wisconsin a robbery of Aldis store was stopped by a concealed carry holder who shot one of the under 21 year old robbers treatening to kill clerk and customers wife. Milwaukee county sherriff has been noted to say the concealed carry law will likely result in maybe 5% of worst violent thugs being stopped in this year in Milwaukee area, 10% in next year and a chance for the understaffed sherrifs dept to get after some backlog fugitives- he is elected law enforcement. Meanwhile the city police there and Madison are repeating what there democrat party mayors are pushing- we don't want people able to protect themselves but we aren't legally required to protect people so lets try to ban guns so voters think we're doing something and we won't face loss of Warren Imunity because we said in public that police WILL protect you- and we know we lied legally. I've used knife 3 times against attackers, it does help in close against bullies, sexual deviates and mob actions. Good for the defender and if any lawyer/prosecuter tries to sue the defender then maybe a Barrartry charge should be brought against the lawyer.

Well he just saw that the b-tard kid was doing wasn't right so he did what he did. And if any enabler liberals wants to boo hoo the victimizer turned victim let them. (to be honest I'd rather not categorize myself as liberal or conservative because it's all too much to live up to and they can't agree on anything)

this was a heart-warming story...even though the perp survived and his two accomplices got away unharmed

Well done, Mr. Samaritan!

What frankly scares me (and makes me fearful of my children's future) more than the prospect of kids who will rob people in wheelchairs are the apparently vast numbers of self-proclaimed Christians stalking the streets, nursing their paranoid, misanthropic, Hobbesian fantasies, who might be armed with guns and looking for opportunities to exercise vigilante justice as 'good samaritans.'

Now that's a truly terrifying world to imagine, but one that is evidently savored by a considerable number of people - judging by the disturbing posts on the vine today. The problem is, they might look normal from the outside... But inside it is an ugly, dark, dystopian world, and hardly in Christ's example at all.

Seriously people, do you even believe what you are writing?

Oh, and Denver Bill, what are those numbers? Do they control for gun violence?

Bundgaard - you haven't been watching the news very much, have you? British police DO have guns, and they are required to get qualified in the use of same, as do most civilized world peace officers.

The British PD's, special units, like our SWAT teams are armed, and are very responsive to calls.

Now, as to this juvenile; his parent(s) should be brought up on charges for fostering such juvenile delinquents. Don't forget to lock the brain dead moron lawyers up that offer to defend this in a case they are sure to try and bring against the Samaritan.

The Good Samaritan obviously did the right thing. However, though I've heard tales of guns preventing crimes, I've heard many, many more such tales of guns being used by criminals to further their criminal conduct. America's murder rate is through the roof. We are the most violent of all the developed countries. It seems would-be vigilantes just don't keep their guns with them at all times, in order to deal with all the gun-wielding criminals one might meet on the streets. Would-be vigilantes don't take their guns to midnight Batman movies. I wonder why not. In this case, the teens conducting the robbery didn't have a gun (which is unusual) and the Good Samaritan didn't, either (which is quite typical). You're all entitled to your opinons about what might happen if America had stricter gun restrictions but, at the end of the day, international statistics will be more convincing than the speculation of any one person on the vine about "what would probably happen if gun restrictions were passed". We don't need to speculate, as there are developed countries with stricter gun laws and, if you think the UK can beat America in any category of violent crime, you just don't know much about crime statistics.

If guns were banned - criminals would not have them - this is where trickle down actually works - you take the guns away from a few seedy people and those people will be turning in their rivals quicker than a baby fills its diaper.

Wow JP Patches

That sure is some fantasy you have there. So what you are saying is some of those Law Abiding Criminals are going to volunteer and give up there guns ( you know the ones they bought legally) and then turn on their Cohorts? ( Because they know it's the right thing to do) LOL share some of those drugs your on Bro

It's called the code of silence you don't even turn in your enemy

One observation I have not seen here today:

The article states that the 'Good Samaritan' who intervened in the robbery stabbed one of the robbers. Nowhere in the article does it mention that a knife was involved.

Barring further details, one should not overlook the possibilities that:

1) The weapon may have been improvised from something that happened to be available at the scene, possibly some type of junk or debris along the side of the street, or some other type of personal property that was on the Samaritan's person that is not legally defined as a dangerous or deadly weapon. As a for instance, I carry a Zebra F-701 stainless steel retractable ball point pen in my pocket on a daily basis. In a pinch, it would serve handily as a 'pain compliance' type weapon, but driven hard enough, as may be very easy to do in an emergency when under stress, I have no doubt that it could puncture and penetrate very well, especially if the pen tip was extended.

2) The attacker could have had a weapon of some sort (knife or other) with which he was perpetrating the robbery and the Samaritan was able to wrest the thing away from him during a struggle and, in the heat of the moment, ended up parking the thing in the robber's chest.

I would be very curious to know exactly just how this went down.

The best thing to do in an instance like this would be to watch it unfold for a moment or two. You need to know exactly what's going on before you can do anything! Were the kids harassing the man, were they horsing around, were they asking or demanding money or valuables, or were the threatening to harm him? Looks can be deceiving, either way.

Once enough has been seen and heard to say, "Uh-oh, this looks like trouble!", unless it has become very obvious as to what's happening when they start physically battering him in some way, the best next step is the use of one's voice. Without getting too close, one should raise their voice and ask, "IS EVERYTHING OKAY OVER THERE? ARE YOU ALL RIGHT?". Quite often, this will either end the affair on the spot or something will happen to give you an answer. It might be in body language. The victim may be verbalizing that he or she is okay, but their expression and body language will be shouting that it's not and they're under duress. This is one of those things a person will know if they see it. The troublrmakers will also show that all is not well - they'll either become very tense and uneasy, or else will be scrambling to make everything look like it's okay in hopes you'll move on and leave them alone.

Of course, that's the LAST thing you want to do!

Keep watching. If the punks haven't fled yet, you might move a bit closer, and state, 'I don't like the looks of this. SHOULD I CALL THE POLICE?'. See what happens. Odds are, if it isn't over by now, it will be after you ask whether or not you should summon the cops and when the potential offenders figure out that you're not going to leave. But, you never know. They might just decide to 'salvage' the situation by making their move suddenly and trying to make a break for it in hopes of getting away with their crime. Stranger things have happened!

If you have the ability to take pictures, it could be a good time to do it if you really think something bad is developing. If all that's going on is a simple robbery, the best thing to do is to be an excellent witness and gather as many details as possible that will help the police to apprehend the crooks and the state to successfully prosecute them. If it's an armed robbery, that changes things. Because a weapon is involved, the situation could easily deteriorate into an attempted murder or a murder in short order, depending on the state of mind the offender has at the time. The weapon could also potentially be used against you if the situation is ripe for it. Not having said anything but being the best witness possible is probably best here, too. As much as you might feel for the victim, as we reason in Search And Rescue work, you didn't put the victim in that situation, and you're under no obligation to become a victim yourself while trying to help them. In fact, doing so by taking unwarranted risks typically just makes the situation worse by doubling the number of victims!

If immediate action is needed to keep the victim from serious harm or death, it's up to a person whether or not it's worth the risk they'll expose themselves to while intervening. Size, skill, equipment, and other tactical advantages had really better be there before one interjects themselves into a volatile situation such as a robbery in progress.

If you go into something like this thinking you could resolve it because you're twice the size of the guy(s) committing the crime and discover that your outweighing them by 100 pounds or so doesn't bother them, increasing the level of force to stop their harmful actions may be necessary and I wouldn't criticize someone for beating, stabbing, or even shooting someone in such a case where nothing else seems to be stopping them. But I'd never recommend that one approaches something like this with a weapon and a plan to 'clean house and take out the trash' by beating/stabbing/shooting the offenders. In most any case, it will basically constitute a crime in and of itself, and if it turns out that it just wasn't what it looked like, you'll be in a world of hurt. I'd be far better to be embarrassed by not recognizing something that only looked bad and apologizing to the police for calling them in error than to end up a criminal yourself, crippled for life, or dead.

If they want something they need to get up off their lazy butts and work for it. This young man needs to have his butt kicked along with his two friends.

What in the world is wrong that people can't teach their children not to steal. We need the 10 commandments on all school walls if for no other reason to teach people what is right from wrong because their parents must not be doing it.

Honest people fighting back is a good thing. Two cases in Florida last week show how dangerous robbery can be for robbers.

http://www.wesh.com/news/central-florida/Police-Robbery-victim-shoots-kills-robber-in-Fern-Park/-/11788162/17454984/-/jw4c3x/-/index.html

http://www.news-journalonline.com/article/20121117/NEWS/121119724?Title=Holly-Hill-police-Suspect-shot-killed-in-home-invasion-robbery

Some of the commentators on this line seem to think that is is the person who stabbed the robber that is the bad guy. the article does not give details as to wether or not the robbers were armed, but if they are attacking a person in a wheel chair then the stabber was in the right since there were three of the robbers and the person in the wheel chair unable to defend himself and the person who stopped the robbery.

Good job to the good Samaritan.

What happened to protecting yourself and those who are innocent?

It's very unfortunate the kid didn't die. Now, we have stitch the little A$$HOLE up and pay for his medical bills.

Windancersong-1494878

Apparently those three foolish teenagers failed one of life's most important lessons.

There is no such thing as failing life's lessons, unless you die. If you don't learn life's lessons the first time, you will be re-tested until you either learn or die.

"He will also be facing a judge when he gets out of the hospital, along with some serious consequences".

Fat chance there Windancer, unless you consider the fact that this POS will get slapped on the wrist by some squeamish pansy a$$ judge who will sentence him to 2-5 yrs which will allow him to be paroled after spending 1 yr in lock up and learning the tricks of the trade from any number of other pieces of $hit that he comes into contact with while there, only to be turned loose on society to be sent back again for the same or maybe even worse yet again. And the vicious cycle never ends.

Midnightridr

You got that right my friend. Bad thing is, this won't stop him from doing this type of thing. He will probably just make sure he is armed with a gun next time. Put his ass away for at least 10 years & see if that changes his attitude.

At hard labor 16 hrs a day 7 days a wk! Feed em well, but work their a$$e$ to death!

I wonder if you would be so understanding if that "teen" and his pals attacked and robbed you. That Samaritan may have saved that wheelchair bound person from serious injury or worse. The boy wouldn't have gotten hurt if he wasn't trying to harm someone else.

I am baffled over any sympathy for a thug in training. He got exactly what he deserved. He and his friends thought they had an easy victim in a wheelchair, they learned that things aren't always what they seem.

Great job sir intervening on behalf of someone who needed your help. Too bad the others escaped without injury.

There is quite a bit of cynicism coming from Midnightridr and Kevin D. Hoke...

Ever think that instead of automatically assuming the teenager will become a more hardened criminal by going to jail, he actually changes? Maybe getting stabbed over petty theft followed by punishment by the law is enough for him to turn his life around and actually do something meaningful and productive. It's pretty naive thinking that all prisoners of jail are repeat offenders and are so morally broken and misguided that they cannot change. Clearly I don't know who this teenager is or what he's like, so I'll reserve my right to not label him as a pre-lifetime criminal.

Know-how

Seeing that he tried to rob someone in a wheelchair, he isn't just a teenager trying to shoplift something. He is the type that will rob, beat & rape an elderly woman. So yes I do have some cynicism for these young men. They are not doing some third rate breaking & entering, they got up close & personal & were trying to rob someone that they saw as easy prey. This was NOT petty theft as you call it. This is lower than low.

This little punk got what he deserved. This is what happens when you try to commit a crime, you have to deal with a whole list of possible outcomes. Really he is lucky, what if the person in the wheelchair had a gun and shot them? Yes for what they probably would have got $$ wise certainly not worth risking their lives over but that was a gamble they took. Same for punishment, death not fitting here so I agree with that but not sure where it was suggested they get the death penalty.

I feel no empathy for the boy and him getting stabbed. At 15 he knows right from wrong and that is the result he got for doing wrong. I agree too this wasn't just shop lifting or break and enter when no one is around, this was in your face rob a person crime. Very different. Not to mention a person in a wheelchair none the less. Shows what these kids think or where they are headed.

But like I said in my post above maybe this can be a turning point for them and they can go down a different path in life. I think this is another case for a little public shaming followed up by time at a boot camp style work farm, not lock up with other hardened criminals. Teach them some discipline and while at this place educate them since I'm sure school isn't a strong point for them, and give them a chance at least to do the right thing in life. Now had they killed this person I would certainly be singing a different tune. I think more low level offenders should go to a place like this where they do hard labor, pay for their time/stay, and after awhile can try to learn a skill or something, not sit around doing nothing and getting more corrupted by others.

So for those of you who feel bad for the perp(s), what is your real reasoning? What about the victim. Oh stupid him right, he was asking for it??

Roadlesstraveled just can't handle it can you. How do you know he wanted to murder this boy?? Ever think he was just doing what he could to protect the person in the wheel chair and made sure he was leveling the playing field by pulling a knife? 3 on 1. Chances are maybe he pulled the knife to scare them off then one of them tried to attack him? Who knows and whatever the case it is clear whose side you stand on. You say no wonder kids are like this and rant about yay America look what we are becoming ect, because of people like this man who stepped up to do the right thing, no it is because people like you get your pants damp when a situation like this occurs and can't see the full reason this is wrong or try to put some type of BS inhumane treatment of the perp spin on it and don't accept that the criminal(s) made the choice, they were not forced into it. You and your softness for criminals and overlooking of the victims coupled with a sue happy mentality and the POS ambulance chasing lawyers are what is ruining this country. If we started being harder on the punks and more people did what is right there would be less issues like this, that and better laws protecting people who step in like this. Your route will only lead to a further de-evolution of society as you kid yourself into believing if we all just hold hands there will be peace on Earth. You and people like you disgust me.

Know how - I understand what you are trying to say but fact is close to half are repeat offenders. Clearly something needs to change, that part I agree with. That's why I think more boot camp and hard labor camps that they work off their time and then maybe learn a skill or something while their is the better option than all going to same lock up in many cases.

Perp got what he deserved and hats off to this man for doing what was right.

It is time

Know-how;

Considering the recidivism rate in this country, I believe the cynicism expressed by Midnightridr and Kevin D. Hoke to be justified. The idea that a symbolic 'punishment' will turn this delinquent into a productive member of society, just doesn't hold with reality.

@Roadlesstraveled. Wow! I LIKE you!! You take a simple case of three teens using violence in the course of a strong-arm robbery of a disabled man(In a wheelchair no less) and a person who stands up to them and turn it all upside down until it means what YOU want it to mean! WOW!!! Seriously, did you go to a University to learn how to commit yoga on the English language? Please see the definition of "Sarcasm"... http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sarcasm?s=t

Now, lets pull up a quote... "I hope this teen, is able to sue that "good" samaritain until he has nothing left....he wanted to murder that boy over a potential robbery...and I hope a judge can see that at least."

Mr RLT(road less traveled), I think the attackers must have been related to you. I can't see an adult actually thinking this is a good thing unless they needed and depended on the monies that resulted from the use of violence on other people. The way you cheer for a lawyer to sue them, makes me think the attackers were either related to you, or were working under your instructions. And you were getting impatiently greedy for "Your" cut.

And another quote..."no wonder these kids do this....we live a world where death is used at any level of wrongdoings....yay for democracy, yay for murder, yay for death for a teen in America....you all make me sick."
OK, what would YOU have done? Be honest, try hard not to lie. Would you have just let these young criminals in training take all the money that guy in the wheelchair had? Would you have tried to talk them out of it? Would you have voluntarily, without being asked, handed over all your own valuables? Would you have cheered when the attackers hit the guy in the wheelchair because he didn't have enough cash? Would you have cried like a little baby when they tried to take your stuff? Or would you have turned around and ran? There is no way to know for sure...

Now to specific points in your post. 1) "no wonder these kids do this....we live a world where death is used at any level of wrongdoings" And Mr RLT, why haven't YOU tried to stop this trend? Hmmm?
Or were you too busy helping society become apathetic to what the younger generations of new violent criminals were doing by posting ridiculous statements like this? Again, there is no way to know for sure...
2) "yay for democracy, yay for murder, yay for death for a teen in America" Are you sure you are an adult? Because it is very easy to think this was written by a 14 year old.

Please do more then spread hatred Mr RLT. We all have a responsibility to our ourselves and our neighbors. With your post you are spreading the very same apathy you were confessing you hated.

I am in no way trying to defend people who would actually stoop so low as to rob someone that is virtually helpless to stop it. However, I am just going to point out that at 15, you may know the difference between right and wrong, but you are still not fully mature enough to really understand the gravity of your actions or the consequences that stem from them. That said, all teenagers do some really stupid things, and for that matter a whole lot of them steal - most just don't go around robbing people. Especially people in wheelchairs. Hopefully, the stabbing and the punishment that will result from this will be enough to teach these youngsters some very important life lessons about actions and consequences.

Youngsters need to be taught that actions have consequences and if you get your ass kicked as a result of your own actions, you deserve it.

This is apparently not conveyed to them in any way shape or form.

Whoa! -- roadlesstraveled! You're spewing a great amount of anger here. So much anger that it's skewed your logic.

No poster here has mentioned the death penalty -- further -- our justice system does not pursue , nor even consider, a death penalty for attempted robbery -- and -- if you read the news -- is not given for more henious crimes.

This attempted theft is not only a crime but is also is also one of moral outrage -- that three people attacked one person -- and that person in a wheelchair no less! The thugs may all be teenagers, but know the difference between right and wrong. It is hoped that a good hard lesson will help.

That you are advocating, endorsing, the suit of the criminal against the Good Samaritan is so incredibly outrageous ---!

CoMommy, I have a problem with your reasoning. Children, (and that includes ALL teenagers,) need to be held responsible for their actions. And not all children steal, only ones with ignorant and/or lazy parent(s) steal.

As a child, i was brought up to respect other people's property and rights, as was my child, and my grandchildren. Aren't yours? If it is not given to you, or you earn it, how do you claim any right to it. I remember my mother, (seems like a century ago,) told me, "...possesion is 9/10's of the law, is not a real law, just a way for some people to justify their self centered actions." (I had been trying to justify keeping one of my younger brothers toys.)

Frosty: I think you misunderstood what I was saying. In no way did I ever state they should not be held responsible for their actions. I think they should be, and I hope the consequences teach them an important lesson.

To address your other statement, I mean no offense, but in my opinion you are wrong. I stole mascara from a grocery store as a teenager just to see if I really could, and my parents were nowhere near ignorant or lazy. They always did an amazing job with me and my sister. I was a minister's daughter and they tried very hard and unceasingly to teach us right from wrong and strong moral values. However, my adolescent mind got in the way at times, as it did in my stealing incident, just as it did with almost every other fellow teen I knew at the time who at one point or another tried to steal something from somewhere, even if it was only a pack of gum. Does that mean I made a habit of stealing, or they did too, or that their parents were lazy or ignorant? No it does not. It just means that we don't always do as we should when we are teens, because our minds don't connect everything together like they should when we are adults. Sometimes the temptation is just too great, and for who knows what reason.

Now, that said, if either one of my children is ever caught stealing, regardless of my opinion of adolescent minds, they will have some very serious consequences and will not like their mother (or father) for a while! I was extremely lucky that I was not caught, that's for sure...!

The only thing that would have been better is if the person in the wheelchair had a gun and shot all three a..holes.

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@sr71

The flaw in your post is that after you shoot one of them it is unlikely that the other two would continue to be a threat. In my state, CA, if someone puts a round into each of them, he would be charged with attempted manslaughter on the others. You may only use deadly force while the danger is present.

Side note, and this comes from our local DA, If you need to defend yourself against an attacker, and you shoot him, make certain that he can not bear witness against you. Put only ONE round into them, to put any more into them is also considered as attempted manslaughter. Shoot them in the front, on the side or in the back means the danger has past and then it would be considered as manslaughter.'

I found myself in a similar situation last year after I exposed a hand gun to prevent myself from a severe beating. I did not need to discharge the weapon, but my attacker called the cops on me for pointing a gun at him. The police showed up at my door the day after and arrested me, confiscated my pistol, and I had to make bail. The DA did not file charges against me, but it took months before I could get my gun back from the cops. One of the DA's finally accompanied me to the police station and demanded that they return my weapon. The police told them they could not find my gun, and that it was probably for the best, as they felt that I might use it the next time.' "Damn right he might use it the next time! Find his gun and return it to him by the end of business today, or I will be back, and you really don't want that." Pretty much his words, as I remember them. The police called me at 4:45 that after noon and said they found my gun, and I could retrieve it tomorrow, as the property department was closing for the day. After all that, I think next time I will just take the beating......

That is why we all should carry swords. He would have gotten all 3 with a little practice.

And I would't doubt it one bit that the stabber doesn't stand a good chance of being sued by this little scum bags "upstanding parents" who will be awarded a large amount of money by some pansy a$$ed panty waist judge.

People will use whatever they can find that their intellect can fashion into a weapon to defend themselves or commit crimes with.

You cannot control every object in existence, nor the common denominator in crime, people.

Best knews I've read in a long, long time.

Some people don't want to live their lives knowing they killed a 15 year old. This was a good samaritan not a killer. Ban handguns.

takenaka

Why ban handguns? Do you think that will get rid of guns or stop criminals from using guns? You know criminals dont usually use legal guns right?

Yes our legal system is over burdened.....

1. HIGH COST OF LABOR - Pay & Benefits

2. Inability to carry out proper judgements - After all there are too many in jail so lets lets some lose

3. Inability to carry out Capital Punishment - OOO No that is not Civilized

Umm........ yeah, and how does that make any sense takenaka? Like a 15 year old can never die from being stabbed? How about we just ban anything that could be used to kill another person. Gee, that would do away with three quarters of everything you see on the face of this Earth. Or, how about banning hands? Can't those be used to choke someone to death? See just how brilliant your logic is now tak?

"See just how brilliant your logic is now tak"?

Uhh, Noooooo, because tak is a braindead dumb phuck who is totaly bereft of any type of reasoning ability. You know, the type that seems to be in control of this soon to be turd world nation we all call America.

@takenaka

Are you still trying to pick up that fecal matter from the clean end?

LMAO XD, that was a good one.

I can't understand wishing for more death and destruction. If you are going to indulge in wishful thinking, why not wish that the world were a better place and these three teens did not indulge in crime. As long as we are wishing, why not? Wishing that this person injured or killed two other criminals is wishing potential problems for this good samaritan.

If the good samaritan acted in this manner to protect himself or a third person from imminent harm, then he should be hailed a hero. If however he used excessive force, then civil lawsuit is the least of his worries. He will have to contend with the criminal justice system. This is not just wishful thinking, this is legal fact.

Wow! So if you catch a kid stealing from the candy store and resisting, you would shoot him down? This was robbery done by 3 stupid teenagers doing what most of immature stupid teenagers do at that age, acting stupid.! Some of you here have really really poor judgement and the thought of you carrying a concealed weapon with that type of mentality gives me chills. Perhaps some of you should consider therapy. "Mom, Pop, I got caught by the cops trying to steal a wheelchair from a handicapped guy" "Well, son, you know what to do, go get me my gun, we'll have to put you down"....

pdrafter

You obviously don't know Philly very well.

Oh, and if the parents were around to do their job the kids might be ok... but they're likely emulating mom and dad and wishing they were cell mates for the holidays.

Tumbleweed, I always enjoy our amiable arguments, but you're starting to take the fun out of it lately by making statements I heartily agree with. This is yet another. I suspect you may have been augmenting your creative thinking process with some of that Arizona Medical Marijuana. Regardless of which, right on, and voted up.

Yep its not guns that kill people its PEOPLE!

Actually its bullets.

If we are getting all nit-pickey, the cause of All deaths can be directly traced to lack of oxygen to the brain.
Sorry, carry on...

Shoulda slit the little bastards throat from ear to ear.

Several states are like that.

About two weeks ago a cousin came to the aid of my nephew, who was under attack in California. He stabbed the attacker. He is in jail facing murder charges.

???????

No way! Not in commie Liberal Kalifornia!

Condolences Tumbleweed.

I sincerely hope he is found not guilty, or at least justfied. Is his lawyer taking him to jury? I hope he doesn't get talked in to taking a plea bargain, but rather gets off with a clean record. Good luck, and best wishes to your courageous relative.

Maam, there is a saying, "Better to be judged by 12 then carried by six." Think about it.

Kathy - I know the feeling, I can't run nearly as far or as fast as I could just a few decades ago. That's why I'm licensed to carry a concealed weapon. And I make sure to exercise the rights granted by that license whenever possible. Seems a lot of people around where I live have made that same decision: in this state a vast majority of people applying for a concealed carry license are over 50, and it's divided pretty evenly between males and females. The last thing a bad-guy who's doe his homework around her wants to do is try to hold up an AARP tour bus - about 1 in 5 on the bus will be carrying!

It's what's known as taking responsibility for ones own safety. Kudos to you and ALL of your fellow packers.

2kmaro

I understand where you are coming from. 10 to 25 years back, I would scrap with the best of them, but age & the big "C" (cancer) have caught up with me. But I'll be damned if I am about to roll over & get pushed around. A young man may hurt you pretty bad but an old man will kill you. I don't have a concealed carry license yet but my wife does. I think all women should carry. Make the low lifes wonder if every woman that they think about preying on has a gun.

@Kevin D. Hoke
Bravo!

Gibb's Rule #9 - Never go anywhere without a knife. Who's to say this wasn't just a simple 3-bladed pocket knife, you know the kind your grandpa probably reached in his pocket for to do everything from clean his nails to tightening that loose hinge screw or just cut off a wad of chew. But in this case, I hope it was something quite a bit larger and not really all that sharp.

This Good Samaritan, male or female, was not only willing to get involved, to "help their neighbor", but they were prepared in several ways, not the least of which was with attitude and willingness to get involved.

The article didn't say the knife was his. It didn't specify. It could have belonged to one of the teens committing the robbery.

I grew up with a Daddy & Grandfather that carried a knife everyday of their lives. I carry one & have ever since I have been old enough to carry one. It is a TOOL. People at work always know they can borrow a knife from me if needed. Country people have always carried pocket knives, I even made sure that my Daddy had one in his pocket when we buried him. It is just a way of life. I make custom hunting knives too, just as a hobby. I would never think of pulling a knife on another person but if it is ever needed, it is there.

I live near tons of water and carry a knife hooked into the top of my purse that has a widow buster on the end, a seat belt slicer and handy enough a flashlight... I am not out randomly stabbing people. I carry it becuase I am a whopping 5 feet 3 inches tall and roughly 110 pounds. If I were to get in an accident I can cut my kids seat belts should they get stuck. I can bust the window if need be etc. Some people actually have common sense. And if the occasion were to occur and you tried to take one of my kids or myself yes I would stab someone not stand there and scream and not be able to protect myself or my children. I am my own best protection. Better safe than sorry. Not everyone who carries a knife is a thug or up to no good.

Ok, all. Good points. I used to carry a Leatherman tool or a knife on my belt when my work might've demanded it. When I changed careers to a precious metals facility, I stopped due to the nature of how we exited work, which made carrying almost anything metallic an major annoyance. I never picked up the habit again even after leaving that job.

Also, I'm not saying the mere possession of a knife implies criminality. I own guns and am not a criminal. But this happened in Philadelphia on a city street. I'm not saying the Good Samaritan was a criminal, but there is a reasonable probability that even another criminal could've seen the wrong in the situation.

Kill em all!

Kill em all and you would have the Devil, Hitler and Pol Pot saying "there goes the neighborhood!"

"An armed society is a polite society." Robert A. Heinlein

Amen 2kmaro Heinlein was a wise man in many respects.

There's only two choices available, either take control and fight back, or volunteer to be a victim.

Those bastions of liberalism are falling like dominoes.

Becoming???? The only difference is state. I actually think the people just bus back and forth between the cities.

Apparently not, since at least one person was willing to stand up to a band of disgusting punks. It is not as bad as you seem to wish it is. I am not willing to concede to the the thief and burglar. Are you?

Bastions of liberalism are falling like dominoes?? What the hell does that even mean, genius? Nevermind, it's not like you'd have the education to give an intelligent answer.

I believe that most folks would agree that your intelligence is highly lacking if you can't put that together and figure it out.

Right on, you'd think that if the officials are unwilling to punish the scum that they'd at least de-nut em so that they couldn't reproduce.