Blast tied to natural gas rips through Springfield, Mass., buildings; 18 hurt

A natural gas explosion levels a strip club and causes damage to surrounding buildings in Springfield, Mass. WHDH's Adam Harding reports.

Eighteen people were hurt when a natural gas leak triggered an explosion that completely leveled a strip club in Springfield, Mass., and damaged 12 other buildings, officials said Friday.

The blast blew out all windows in a three-block radius, and prompted emergency workers to evacuate a six-story apartment building that was buckling.


People were knocked off their feet by the blast, NBC affiliate WWLP-TV reported.

Those injured in the blast included nine firefighters, four gas company employees, two police officers,  one water and sewage employee and two civilians.

Two hospitals treated the injured people, though none were in critical condition, officials said.

"It really was a miracle on Worthington Street that no one was killed," Lieutenant Governor Tim Murray told reporters at a news  conference in Springfield Friday night.

The blast, which leveled the Scores Gentlemen's Club, was was heard for miles.

Fire Marshall Joe Conan told reporters at the press conference that the call reporting a strong gas odor came in at 4:20 p.m., and the explosion took place at 5:25, about 15 minutes after the gas was shut off.

The club had been evacuated by the time gas leak ignited. 

A dancer at the club told The Springfield Republican that she was on stage when the evacuation order came.

While she was gathering her clothes, she said, the manager came up and told everyone, "I don’t care if you’re (expletive) naked or not, get out."

Don Treeger / Springfield Republican via AP

Gas company workers stand where a building was leveled by an explosion in downtown Springfield, Mass., on Friday.

"I feel lucky we got out," said the dancer, identified only as Debbie. She said all her work clothes were lost.

At a restaurant two blocks away, waitress Stephanie Simmons said the blast shocked customers.

"It rocked us so hard the windows smashed," she told The Springfield Republican. "It felt like an earthquake or a large explosion. There was pretty much chaos."

Officials at the news conference said that teams of inspectors would be sent to look at damaged buildings on Saturday, and there would likely be controlled demolition of those that were badly damaged to make the scene safe.

Meantime, the Massachusetts Emergency Management Agency was assisting the city to provide shelter for people displaced by the explosion, Lt. Gov. Murray told reporters at the press conference. 

Springfield is the largest city in western Massachusetts with a population of about 150,000.

NBC News' Kari Huus and The Associated Press contributed to this report.

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Is there anyone that doubts that this country needs to replace its aged and ailing infrastructure?

Repair America and create jobs... shouldn't be a partisan issue, eh?

  • 66 votes
#1 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:02 PM EST

I agree, our roads, and bridges, sewer lines, water mains, and gas and electric systems are all aging badly. This latest event will cost us, the taxpayer, a lot of $ inasmuch as Columbia Gas will have to cough up the BIG BUCKS to pay out for the impeding law suits sure to occur. Man, can't we ever catch a break??

  • 24 votes
#1.1 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:41 PM EST

Not unless the taxpayers pay for it. You'll never get a company to fix their own ailing infrastructure. It will screw up all that profit for the shareholders.

  • 36 votes
#1.2 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:12 PM EST

AlexTheBlade - Is there anyone that doubts that this country needs to replace its aged and ailing infrastructure?

There should not be. BUT:

AlexTheBlade - Repair America and create jobs... shouldn't be a partisan issue, eh?

This IS a partisan issue. Go learn to do a Causative Timeline; I am tired of arguing with people that do not want to know the Facts and your own Research is more valuable to you than my spoon feeding all of you (you will not call yourselves Liars, Conspiracy Theorists, Wearing a Tin Foil Hat, Racists, Haters, etc..).

Voters
Politicians manipulate voters every day with half-truths -- or outright lies -- about taxes, spending and many other issues that directly affect the nation's prosperity.

Too many voters embrace feel-good propaganda that they want to hear instead of learning the basic facts about issues they care about. They should do a better job of calling out dishonest politicians -- and shunning media outlets that stoke political food fights.

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  • 3 votes
#1.3 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:37 PM EST

David,This IS a partisan issue. Go learn to do a Causative Timeline; I am tired of arguing with people that do not want to know the Facts and your own Research is more valuable to you than my spoon feeding all of you (you will not call yourselves Liars, Conspiracy Theorists, Wearing a Tin Foil Hat, Racists, Haters, etc

This has got nothing to do with weak infrastructure. This does have to do with it being the responsibility of the gas companies maintaining THEIR pipelines. If it were not for government regulation, the companies would use whatever is cheapest, not safest. And, thank you but I feed myself and my family just fine WITHOUT your nasty a$$ spoon.

  • 14 votes
#1.4 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:04 PM EST

so the cost to heat our homes goes up and up and up yet the delivery systems arent getting upgraded or maintained, where is the money going gas company?

  • 19 votes
#1.5 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:05 PM EST

Well maybe the stimulus money should have gone to the infrastructure instead of energy cos. that go bankrupt. Or maybe all those able persons on welfare can work for their handouts.

  • 9 votes
#1.7 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:47 PM EST

Alex, my thoughts exactly. It's not brain surgery to realize that we are descending in a third world nation because our priorities are all about me...screw you and your little infrastructure problems. I can afford to fix my own and couldn't be concerned in the least for fixing anything else...why should I? The Romney affect.

  • 16 votes
#1.8 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:13 PM EST

That is assuming it was an Infrastructure issue. Columbia Gas recently bought out Bay State Gas in the last couple of years and there is a big push towards conversion.

    #1.9 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:13 PM EST

    There is no doubt the country needs an infastructure upgrade. But in order to create those jobs that you speak of the government needs to do two things: The first is actually manage money correctly. All the taxes in the world don't solve a thing as long as we have a growing and wasteful government. All of those jobs that you speak of are created with money coming from businesses and private citizens. Unless the government can actually control itself, something it has had very little success with so far, those roads will not be fixed until the economy grows. Raising taxes now to create jobs that cannot be sustained over the long haul is only a temporary fix and done at the expense of an already ailing economy. Those of you that think that the tax rate should be returned to Clinton era levels are missing two key points; the first being that the economy was strong at that time and could handle the additional tax burdon. Secondly, in 2007, under the hated GW Bush, the country collected more tax revenue that year than any year in prior history. We can keep trying to squeeze what little juice is left in the orange by raising taxes now or we can grow the economy and fill the tax dole with more people paying into the system. We also have to face the fact that there are not enough people paying into the federal system and there are not enough "rich" people to fix the problem. The only hope is economic growth. We have had record spending and nothing to show for it. We tried it, and it didn't work. I don't want to double down on that bet.

    • 4 votes
    #1.10 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:25 PM EST

    @ Randy, there needs to be a balence between regultion and the free market. The US has slipped to the 18th most free market society in the world. That is not the place we need to be. Those regualtions that you seem to like at often misguided attempts by bureaucrats that seldom know anything about the industry they are regulating. For every positive regulation you can point to, I can find two that only get in the way. I am not against regulation, but having to deal with it in my business...all to often the regulation doesn't help the consumer and creates higher costs. I have a small business (less than 50 employees) and I must keep a full time person who's sole job is to manage often unneeded or misguided regulations. That is money I could be using to invest in my business and create more than just that one job.

    • 3 votes
    #1.11 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:36 PM EST

    It's much deeper than just REPAIR. People paid for services NOT RENDERRED in the 1950's and the younger generation in charge is billing residents for work paid for years ago on a new vote for new services. In Fernandina Beach, Fla. The Old Town area that was commercial fishermen and people that could stand the smell of Menhaden fish plants (Un-iced oily fish in rotting holds and BOILED putting out STINK to preocess the oil for perfumes, and the sludge for cat food,AND the sulfur dioxide smell of downwind of the papermills-po-folks-paid a little a month for a long long time to get off wells and septic tanks and be put on city water and sewer in the '50's. BUT IT NEVER HAPPENNED- so residents are being billed ANOTHER $5,000 each so a rich lawyer can build multi level Condominiums and get everyone else to pay for his water and sewage hook up. I'm sure it is happening all over the country where eminent domain is being used to steal private property so a big business can build a factory in their idea of a perfect location. Eminent Domains is SUPPOSED to be used for bridges and roads communities need, not businesses where the OWNERS make a profit and the family that cleared and settled the farm 200 years ago gets thrown out for a pittance. And you can't blame partisan politics for that. It came long before the family of Indonesian monkeys.

    • 9 votes
    #1.12 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:03 PM EST

    Yes but all people talk about is spending less money.

    • 2 votes
    #1.13 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:13 PM EST

    now thats a real "BLOWJOB" at the scores stripclub !!!

    • 8 votes
    #1.14 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:35 PM EST

    OMG I was thinking the same thing. When i heard this on the new my first thought was AGAIN. All of america is either crumbling apart or blowing up.

    • 3 votes
    #1.15 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:53 PM EST

    "I feel lucky we got out," said the dancer, identified only as Debbie. She said all her work clothes were lost.

    Yeah, probably hard to find those little tassels in all of the debris...

    • 6 votes
    #1.16 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:54 PM EST

    Or maybe all those able persons on welfare can work for their handouts.

    How much harder do you think they should have to work. They've made careers out of woring the system - that's no easy task. They've set up networks training friends and families how to manipulate it as well. They have no idea how to find the unemployment center but when the welfare and food stamp checks miss their due date they know exactly where to go.

    • 8 votes
    #1.17 - Sat Nov 24, 2012 12:12 AM EST

    And a traffic cop working 4 blocks away - clocked a GoGo boot doing 139mph.

    • 2 votes
    #1.18 - Sat Nov 24, 2012 1:51 AM EST

    I live about 1 mile away as the bird flies and could see the exposion smoke like 5 seconds after it happened from my house and it felt like a truck hit my house! The whole buiding is just GONE.

    • 2 votes
    #1.19 - Sat Nov 24, 2012 2:38 AM EST

    Naked or not get out! At least the owner is looking at the big picture.

    • 5 votes
    #1.20 - Sat Nov 24, 2012 8:58 AM EST

    Pipestar--"Secondly, in 2007, under the hated GW Bush, the country collected more tax revenue that year than any year in prior history"... Yes, and we were SPENDING about one BILLION dollars a week in Iraq and Afghanistan. I notice that many people screaming about government fiscal responsibility have a dead spot in their vision when it comes to the trillions of dollars of our tax money that is spent on the Military/Industrial Complex. I'm not going to go through all the numbers and rehash the enormous waste of money when these solid gold weapons systems become obsolete 10 years after their implementation or when we spend a quarter of a BILLION dollars on ONE new strike fighter, so let's look at one tiny little example. Remember the old war movies showing soldiers sitting on a crate while another G.I. hacked off their hair for an Army haircut? Remember? Well under that GW Bush Defense Dept. it was decided that we needed to hire a "private contractor" to give our soldiers a haircut. At $150 EACH !!! So yeah, we certainly need to control and maximize the efficacy of our government spending but I'm willing to bet we see very different ways of doing it...

    • 5 votes
    #1.21 - Sat Nov 24, 2012 9:11 AM EST

    " It came long before the family of Indonesian monkeys."

    OK, Archie.

    • 2 votes
    #1.22 - Sat Nov 24, 2012 9:52 AM EST

    Instead of giving people a small money, food stamps and housing for doing nothing, the government (State and Federal) could do some work programs, that would benefit everyone, IF they pay them a livable wage.

      #1.23 - Sat Nov 24, 2012 1:32 PM EST

      We are too busy building up other countries to worry about taking care of our own..

        #1.24 - Sat Nov 24, 2012 2:46 PM EST
        Reply

        The dancer lost all her work clothes? A couple pasties, g-string and what else. At least she didn't loose her live.

        • 14 votes
        Reply#2 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:08 PM EST

        I was thinking much the same thing. Doesn't sound like it could possibly be that much of a loss.

        • 4 votes
        #2.1 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:02 PM EST

        Still, it's not exactly warm here in New England this time of year.

        • 4 votes
        #2.2 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:26 PM EST

        the word is life Bob

        • 6 votes
        #2.3 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:01 PM EST

        Strippers aside, someone lost a building... and you're right URQ196...the word is life, and the other word is lose. BJ (nice moniker for this chimp) is a real Einstein!

        • 3 votes
        #2.4 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:19 PM EST

        Doesn't sound like it could possibly be that much of a loss.

        You people haven't priced thongs lately have you? The Nasty Nightie industry has learned valuable maketing lessons from the health/organic food industry. The less you put in a product, the more you should charge.

        • 7 votes
        #2.5 - Sat Nov 24, 2012 12:16 AM EST

        While she was gathering her clothes, she said, the manager came up and told everyone, "I don’t care if you’re (expletive) naked or not, get out."

        Now THAT'S some Pulitzer Prize-winning reporting... fact-gathering, credibility, timeliness, trustworthiness, the whole 9 yards. Nothing like interviewing an intelligent witness on the spot to get the story straight out of the horse's mouth. Or should I say "(expletive) naked" horse's mouth.

          #2.6 - Sat Nov 24, 2012 8:39 AM EST

          stripper clothes are very expensive.

          those shoes with 8 inch heels are very expensive.

          and the Dolly Parton wigs don't grow on trees.

            #2.7 - Sat Nov 24, 2012 12:27 PM EST

            We need to be thankful that none of the girls were injured. I must say to NBC, though, that THIS THREAD IS WORTHLESS WITHOUT PICTURES of the strippers.

              #2.8 - Sat Nov 24, 2012 4:40 PM EST
              Reply

              Springfield is located in CENTRAL MASS., not western Mass.

              • 2 votes
              Reply#3 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:10 PM EST
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              The article is correct , it is the largest city in western Mass.

              • 13 votes
              #3.1 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:20 PM EST

              Springfield is in Western MA. I ought to know, I've lived here all my life. Good thing this happened after the Balloon Parade that was held this AM. Casualties would have been way worse.

              • 12 votes
              #3.2 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:34 PM EST

              Don-2405154, if you include Cape Cod, it is clearly in the Western third of the state by actual distance.

              • 5 votes
              #3.3 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:04 PM EST

              Turn your map around, you got it upside down

              • 1 vote
              #3.4 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:56 PM EST

              Springfield is considered Western, MA.

              • 1 vote
              #3.5 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:53 PM EST

              Worcester is Central Mass. Springfield is west.

              • 1 vote
              #3.6 - Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:56 AM EST

              San Fran and Sacramento are in the center but are referred to as NORCAL as opposed to L A being SOCAL.

              What's wrong with CentCal?

              Miami Dolphins are in the AFC EAST. Not the AFC south.

              Dallas isn't in the west or the south they are NFC EAST.

              Facts don't mean a thing these days.

              • 1 vote
              #3.7 - Sat Nov 24, 2012 12:33 PM EST
              Reply

              Romney must have farted!

              • 15 votes
              Reply#4 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:17 PM EST

              you are bad, ;)

              • 2 votes
              #4.1 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:03 PM EST

              Nah...Romney is relaxing in the pool at his plush LaJolla estate thinking about closing down another factory for a quick 10 or 20 million for his Cayman bank account.

              • 4 votes
              #4.2 - Sat Nov 24, 2012 9:23 AM EST
              Reply

              As a resident of Springfield, we are most certainly in Western Mass. Central Mass would be Worcester and it's surrounding communities.

              • 10 votes
              Reply#5 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:17 PM EST

              We're praying that no one has been hurt. Buildings can be replaced, but not people.

              • 8 votes
              Reply#6 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:18 PM EST

              People get replaced all the time. Its called a new generation.......

              • 4 votes
              #6.2 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:35 PM EST

              's all, disgusting response, Bethel, good luck with that prayer thing, you are praying to something or someone that does not exist. Again, 's all, despicable reply, most distasteful, you are a pig, oh wait, I like pigs, you are just a lowlife sub human, how is your trailer looking? many broken appliances in your yard? cars? toilets still plugged with enter word here

              • 2 votes
              #6.3 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:28 PM EST

              To URQ196, I am sure that Bethel, and many others that believe in God are doing just fine, All of Humanity have up's and downs. We choose to believe the Bible is true, and in my personal life "The Prayer Thing" is working just fine. So try not to be so judgemental to everyone all the time.

              • 2 votes
              #6.4 - Sat Nov 24, 2012 5:52 AM EST

              ^ Spot on 's all good!

              • 1 vote
              #6.6 - Sat Nov 24, 2012 11:17 AM EST
              Reply

              This is the same town where a 34 year old guy left his girlfriends two year old boy in his car in K-mart parking lot at 1AM (today).

              He went into store to buy a black Friday sale 51 inch TV..told police he panicked when he realize he lost the child ( who never left his car) and called a friend up to give him a ride home with the TV. Left his car and child there.

              • 12 votes
              Reply#7 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:22 PM EST

              It'd be funny if the blast was close enough to that idiot's house that it knocked over his brand new TV and now it's garbage...

              • 5 votes
              #7.1 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:32 PM EST

              I hope the girlfriend gets a wake-up call from this. Bad-boyfriend material, for sure. Yes, Springfield was busy today. Still a great part of the country in which to live.

              • 2 votes
              #7.2 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:55 PM EST
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              Is this not government sponsored terror? Look at the archives of WWLP, the local NBC affiliate. The mayor (Sarno) had his panties in a bunch over a 60+ person brawl at another club in Springfield, the Fat Cat Bar and Grill, within the past week. (Aaron Russo has an interview on YouTube on the police, the authorized mafia. They'll give you an idea of how the authorized mafia (government) really does. It happened to him.) City police officers were attacked during the brawl and they feared for their lives. This previous incident had taken place at the Fat Cat Bar and Grill, 232 Worthington St. This is the mayor's revenge. Notice too how the injured were gas workers. Conspiracy of silence. Sarno called that previous brawl as "totally out of control". He went on all the major local media outlets and promised, essentially, revenge.

              • 3 votes
              Reply#8 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:29 PM EST

              What are you? A complete IDIOT!! This was a natural gas leak, not a Sarno terrorist attack on the entertainment section of downtown Spfld.

              • 12 votes
              #8.1 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:37 PM EST
              Reply

              Springfield.....the armpit of Massachusetts!

              • 4 votes
              Reply#9 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:30 PM EST

              thought Holyoke was??

              • 3 votes
              #9.1 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:57 PM EST

              Pittsfield...

              • 5 votes
              #9.2 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:31 PM EST

              I would like to add another nominee: Worcester. If any city can hold the titles of Armpit of Massachusetts and Anus of Massachusetts at the same time, it's Worcester.

              Been to Holyoke and Pittsfield, and have seen plenty to say they are worthy nominees. Anyone who's been to Pittsfield and taken a good look around knows why it's called Pittsfield.

              • 4 votes
              #9.3 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:29 PM EST

              Naw, Brockton has them all beat. Been suckin hind titee's for decades.

              • 1 vote
              #9.4 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:36 PM EST

              You folks are making Mass sound like a spider, or a centipede. How many armpits can one state have?

              • 4 votes
              #9.5 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:59 PM EST

              Springfield is absolutely a SCUM HOLE !!! NO LOSS

              • 1 vote
              #9.6 - Sat Nov 24, 2012 8:33 AM EST

              Southbridge gets my vote!

                #9.7 - Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:11 AM EST

                hahaha...I have to agree with ALL of you!

                  #9.8 - Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:54 PM EST
                  Reply

                  Must be Bush's fault

                  • 2 votes
                  Reply#10 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:31 PM EST

                  No, It is Romneys Fault.

                  • 2 votes
                  #10.1 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:09 PM EST

                  No, it's your fault!

                  • 2 votes
                  #10.2 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:16 PM EST
                  Reply

                  Sarno also put a curfew in order to put a handle on late night violence. Sarno, the mayor, said in the following article on MASSLIVE that you have to "fight fire with fire". The curfew stops music, dancing, and other forms of entertainment after 1am. If an establishment wants to continue after 2am, then it needs a special permit from the mayor.

                    Reply#11 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:38 PM EST

                    DUDE! What are you smokin????

                    • 4 votes
                    #11.1 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:32 PM EST

                    That isn't a state law that nightclubs and bars stop serving and close at 2am?

                    • 3 votes
                    #11.2 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:06 PM EST
                    Reply

                    Near a fracking site??

                    • 2 votes
                    Reply#12 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:53 PM EST

                    Don't bother knockin if ya see the buildins a rockin!

                    • 1 vote
                    #12.2 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:37 PM EST

                    Unless the building was 5000+ feet underground I have no clue what Fracking would have done to cause this.

                    • 1 vote
                    #12.3 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:57 PM EST

                    I knew someone would ask this.....

                    newsgirl24

                    Near a fracking site??

                    You must of missed the part of the article where people reported smelling the stink of natural gas. The only way you can smell natural gas is when your gas company adds an odorant that smells like rotten eggs so gas leaks can be smelled. Had the gas come from any deep fracking, they would not have smelled it.

                    • 7 votes
                    #12.4 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:23 PM EST

                    True,but that small fact gets in the way of their rants,so they ignore it.

                    • 1 vote
                    #12.5 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:31 PM EST

                    Sounds like some fracking idiots.........

                    • 2 votes
                    #12.6 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:37 PM EST

                    Geez! How come everybody else gets to throw out wacky suggestions except me??

                    • 1 vote
                    #12.7 - Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:04 AM EST
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                    Our metal pipe infrastructure should definitely be replaced with weather proof and rot proof plastic piping that can more easily flex with pressure changes, it can also be fire proof plastic as well.

                    • 1 vote
                    Reply#13 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:57 PM EST

                    Yes, that's why the next generation of nuclear subs will have plastic hulls.

                      #13.2 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:09 PM EST

                      Please, no poly pipes. They are much more prone to cracking, leaking, and failing then any metal. Just cheap and people buy the hype. Take tinme to research the failure and lawsuits through the years. This is what you get for deregulation on utilities.

                      • 4 votes
                      #13.3 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:15 PM EST

                      Massachusetts is not a smart place to lay gas lines, if you're not asking for big problems. Just with water lines, there are always crews out repairing leaks. Massachusetts is endlessly and mercilessly laden with boulders, and rocks at every depth, every locations, of every size and kind. Hard shards of crumbled compressed bedrock, comprised of manganese, silicon, magnesium and iron containing rubble were churned up by the glaciers. Rocks were a nightmare for early farmers. With Massachusett's rockfields combined with loads of snow, ice, heavy rains, and temperatures varying from 10 below 0F to 100 F, these gas pipelines don't stand a chance. I'd never go natural gas. When gas became popular 40 years ago, everytime you turned around there were reports of gas explosions in Massachusetts.

                      • 7 votes
                      #13.4 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:46 PM EST

                      Mother nature can take whatever pipe you toss at her, and bust it wide open on any given day. End of story.

                      • 4 votes
                      #13.5 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:39 PM EST

                      Poland's navy would be very interested in those plastic hulled subs. They'd be a perfect complement to the glass bottom boats they use so they can see the Polish Air Force.

                      • 3 votes
                      #13.6 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:44 PM EST

                      Plastic works OK for small lines but making large ones out of it are prohibitive for a number of reasons. You might be surprised a just how flexible steel is. But it can corrode and joint failure is an issue. Steel pipe can be lined and coated. If done right, big steel pipes can last a very long time.

                      No matter what the pipeline is made of, it eventually wears out and can still be subject to failure. The key is adequate inspections and maintenance. There are some tricks that allow liners to be installed inside existing lines, minimizing digging. Usually after some pipeline fails and all the analysis is done, it usually boils down to some issue that was either known or should have been known that leads to the failure. There are exceptions like those related to earthquakes or some damage caused by excavation.

                      Part of the problem with long buried lines is they tend to get covered up with all sorts of things built on top of them. It can get real expensive to dig these lines up and repair or replace them. The sad reality is that often it may be cheaper to run this stuff until failure. The cost to replace it is going to be pretty much the same either way. The longer you can keep from spending that money, the more that money can earn. You can buy high risk insurance and then help pay for any damages done. There is money to be saved by minimizing the amount of maintenance labor you spend. Big money. When the results of an inspection suggest that the chances of a failure are one in 10, that also means the chances things will be OK are 9 in 10. Then if you look at the odds that a failure will be a catastrophic one, it makes letting stuff go to failure pretty attractive.

                      This kind of thing will continue to happen at increasing frequencies until cost finally drives being pro-active. This is not just a pipeline issue but almost all infrastructure. There are some ways to make replacing infrastructure more attractive. This is where wise regulation can help. Some government incentives is one option, tax depreciation law and even punitive damages associated with failure. All these things can be played to encourage replacing worn out infrastructure before it fails.

                      If we don't start making progress very soon on replacing old infrastructure we will reach a point where the job becomes more massive than can be kept up with. To do these things right requires people with the right skills from the engineers to the hands on skilled labor. Nationwide that properly skilled workforce has shrunk dramatically from where it once was. It takes some time to build these skills and with demand for them low, few people are looking at that type career today.

                      The time is now to start going after infrastructure. Actually, the time was probably 5-10 years ago. We need to get going or very soon we will be facing numerous disruptions of infrastructure we count on every day and potentially life threatening failures.

                      • 6 votes
                      #13.7 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:13 PM EST

                      Plastic or paper? Nothing will happen here until we get Iraq and Afganistan etc. etc. all "fixed up".

                      • 3 votes
                      #13.8 - Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:16 AM EST
                      Reply

                      Not a fracking site Newsgirl24, just near a fracking gas line that was leaking, probably had been for a while until it got too fracking bad to ignore. Then the fracking gas line found something to give it ignition and it fracking blew up.

                      That wasn't hard to type, just hard to think up without using language that would get me the frack off the 'vine.

                      • 4 votes
                      Reply#14 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:00 PM EST

                      I'm just distressed that a good swear word from (the latest version of) Battlestar Galactica got hijacked.

                      Best frackin' sci-fi show in thirty years!

                        #14.1 - Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:07 AM EST
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                        I work for a natural gas company in the Northeast. Our supervisors and managers get a 12-18% bonus every year. To ensure that they get that bonus, they will falsify documents related to safety checks. I fear for the public because we are going to kill someone. It's a matter of time.

                        • 14 votes
                        Reply#15 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:02 PM EST

                        You should report them ASAP. But better have proof too!

                        • 8 votes
                        #15.1 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:18 PM EST

                        They have been reported. But the utility commission isn't going to do anything until someone dies. That is the thought throughout the workers in the company.

                        • 5 votes
                        #15.2 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:32 PM EST

                        Talk to the NTSB nutter, they are the federal authority that over see's pipeline transportation.

                        • 3 votes
                        #15.3 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:42 PM EST
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                        I don't have natural gas but I wonder if there is a natural gas home detector like the ones for fire?

                        • 2 votes
                        Reply#16 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:50 PM EST

                        The gas company service vehicles have gas leak detectors for when there is a gas leak suspected. I've never seen natural or any other type of gasous fuel detectors on the shelf at stores like we see CO, heat, and smoke detectors. It would be a smart idea though. The gas companies, producing propane, methane, et cetera, add a noxious odorant to their gas to supposively make a gas leak easily detectable with only our olfactory senses.

                        • 2 votes
                        #16.1 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:23 PM EST
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                        An overheated lap dance will trigger an explosion everytime.

                        • 4 votes
                        Reply#17 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:52 PM EST
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                        oh no a strip club blew up where will all the whores work now?

                        wonder if they'll get unemployment

                        McDonald's is hiring but you cant grind your crotch on anybody.

                        there's enough disease in there food

                        • 1 vote
                        Reply#18 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:06 PM EST

                        You are obviously one of those evangelical Christian types that exalts himself in the hope he is pleasing God.

                        • 4 votes
                        #18.1 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:28 PM EST

                        If you want a true whore, just look at the governor of Massachusetts, Deval Patrick, the best friend welfare queens and illegal immigrants have every had.

                        When I look at him, I see Bubbles the Chimp in a tutu.

                        • 2 votes
                        #18.2 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:37 PM EST
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                        I agree that there is a problem with older pipe in the ground. The major Oil and Gas companies are doing a lot to combat these problems. Regardless as to what some of you are clueless think. Pipelines have an anti corrosion outer layer. Every welded joint has to be X-ray'd to make sure it isnt weak. Then those welds are wrapped with tape to seal them off from the elements and dirt. Once the pipeline is pressure tested and put into service most companies then send corrosion inhibitor down the inside of the pipe to coat it. Then most companies use Cathodics to further prevent corrosion. If these companies were solely interested in profits and didnt care they would drop the pipe in the ground and move on not spend millions to prevent incidents.

                        • 2 votes
                        Reply#19 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:09 PM EST

                        I guess you never watched The China Syndrome.

                          #19.1 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:34 PM EST

                          Do you recall the explosion in california a few years back? After investigation, problems were found with the welding of the pipe such as welds were off center, welds not completed inside pipe as required. Information is free to examine at the NTSB's website.

                          • 1 vote
                          #19.2 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:38 PM EST

                          Oil and Gas companies pay independent companies to put Pipelines in the ground. Those companies are contractually obligated to adhere to all State and Federal guidelines for Pipeline installations. Those companies sub contract weld inspectors and pipeline welders to do the work they are supposed to do. Every weld is supposed to be inspected. If a weld inspector doesn't do their job or doesn't catch bad welds whos at fault? The inspector signs off on everything and covers up the pipeline. No way to know if shoddy work was passed off or not until it finally fails under pressure. At that point is it the Oil and Gas companies fault? Or should it go back on the Welders and Weld inspectors? My guess would be most of you would say the Corp.

                            #19.3 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:47 PM EST

                            That is like saying a company is not responsible for insuring the products they sell are safe, whether it be autos, electric toasters, etc. would be safe no matter who or where the materials come from or labor is sub-contracted. It is the ultimate responsibility of the utility in this case to check the work. This information comes from the federal laws governing this. Again, go to the NTSB website.

                              #19.4 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:53 PM EST

                              50 Year old pipes are not up to the same standards that are currently installed, but they are still in use. I have x-ray weld repairs on buried 36" diameter naturual gas pipelines in California that were first put inn service during the 1930s...Not one bit of coating inside or out...California is criss crossed with thousands of miles of these lines this size and smaller..Buried out of site and out of mind that is untill one ruptures and ignites....

                              • 4 votes
                              #19.5 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:13 PM EST

                              Blame the union.

                                #19.6 - Sat Nov 24, 2012 5:01 PM EST
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                                Hooray for hot p#ssy!

                                • 3 votes
                                Reply#20 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:10 PM EST

                                South Side, Indianapolis IN + Western Massachusetts... in weeks...and counting.

                                Deregulate!! (sarcasm)

                                  Reply#21 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:21 PM EST

                                  God punishment.... .so that strip club should not rebuild again.

                                    Reply#22 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:44 PM EST

                                    Please tell me you are being sarcastic. If not I must tell you that it is not god you are referring to but his direct opposite. You are worshipping at the wrong altar.

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #22.1 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:59 PM EST

                                    No God doesn't punish in this way.

                                      #22.2 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:03 PM EST

                                      God doesn't punish in this way, but the comment is correct in inferring that sin and rebelliousness against God is currently under wrath and will be soon face ultimate judgment. Thankful that there was grace in no lives lost!

                                      • 1 vote
                                      #22.3 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:19 PM EST

                                      a

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                                      #22.4 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:28 PM EST

                                      Exodus 34:6-7

                                        #22.5 - Sat Nov 24, 2012 12:00 AM EST

                                        God punishment.... .so that strip club should not rebuild again

                                        There is nothing in the Bible that prohibits nudity or the erotic. A lot of strippers have excellent morals.

                                        Just because you see a naked woman doesn't mean Satan is involved.

                                        Now if she is married, and you're married, there is a problem.

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #22.6 - Sat Nov 24, 2012 1:07 AM EST

                                        It IMO is not punishment sent down from heaven, but it is very consistent with punishment resulting from an action of God. The "punishment" is the result of sin, meaning doing what's not good for us.

                                        The problem with being addicted to vice/sin is in doing so the addicted neglects all else, like fire prevention. There's your punishment, God created order, we do our best to destroy it. If it wasn't for the order God maintains in spite of us I couldn't type the next key before

                                        Gods not the villain or punisher, we are.

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #22.7 - Sat Nov 24, 2012 3:27 AM EST

                                        It IMO is not punishment sent down from heaven, but it is very consistent with punishment resulting from an action of God. The "punishment" is the result of sin,

                                        Looking at naked women is not a sin nor is there a commandment that prevents it.

                                        I have seen people lose their lives for adultery. ie. Winding up miserable and shooting themselves in the head. I have never seen someone lose their life or wind up miserable tucking a dollar bill in a strippers bikini.

                                        • 2 votes
                                        #22.8 - Sat Nov 24, 2012 4:50 AM EST

                                        They have been smited! Glory be to God!

                                          #22.9 - Sat Nov 24, 2012 11:52 AM EST
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                                          Gas lines are crumbling from one end of this country to the other. They are not being properly maintained because it costs a lot of money and liability insurance is cheaper. Dead people are nothing but a line on a profit/loss statement.

                                          • 4 votes
                                          Reply#23 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:57 PM EST

                                          You think some serious $ needs to be spent in this country on infrastructure vs. rebuilding other countries that just continually blow themselves up? Real hard choice, but again one party doesn't see it that way, they just call it unjustifiable spending that runs up the deficit. I guess sending money to help other countries rebuild school and roads there don't count towards the deficit right? Anyway it has to be Romney's fault, he was once governor there. If he had spent money on infrastructure maybe this would not have happened.

                                          • 2 votes
                                          Reply#24 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:03 PM EST

                                          Yes, the one GOP Governor in the last how many years in Mass. so you blame him.

                                          The truth is, the government, state, local and federal, often asks for more money for infrastructure. When they get the money, they immediately spend it on everything but, then let the infrastructure keep crumbling and after they have blown the last bunch of money they ask for more.

                                          Also, anyone who thinks Massachusetts spends money well on infrastructure should look at the boondoggle and cost overrun laden monster that the "Big Dig" was.

                                          • 1 vote
                                          #24.1 - Sat Nov 24, 2012 9:42 AM EST

                                          H addict..

                                          Well since we(man) created God you are correct in your last statement...

                                          • 1 vote
                                          #24.2 - Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:14 AM EST

                                          "One party doesn't see it that way"???? I've been around a long time and have NEVER seen either party cut off funding to all other countries so they can spend it here in the USA. The government has made it so it is advantageous for the foreign country in the long run to be blown up and rebuilt by us. When we are done, it is all new and the latest technology, should they choose to embrace it.

                                          • 1 vote
                                          #24.3 - Sat Nov 24, 2012 11:50 AM EST
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                                          KaBooM!

                                            Reply#25 - Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:03 PM EST

                                            "Clean-burning" natural gas. We should run our whole society on natural gas and nuke plants. That would be really smart.

                                              #25.1 - Sat Nov 24, 2012 12:07 PM EST
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