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Baldwin County Sheriff Deputy Scott Ward, left, was killed in a confrontation Saturday with Michael Jansen, right.
A man shot and killed one Alabama sheriff's deputy and critically wounded another when they went to his home near Fairhope, Ala., on a report that he was acting aggressively toward family members, authorities said on Saturday.
The shooter, Michael Jansen, also was killed in the exchange of gunfire on Friday afternoon, the Baldwin County Sheriff's Office said in a statement.
Baldwin County Sheriff Huey Mack told reporters that the deputies responded to a report that Jansen had "been confrontational with some family members" and were speaking with him at his home near Fairhope, about 15 miles southeast of Mobile.
"While the deputies were on scene and talking to the individual, the individual produced a handgun and began firing at the deputies," Mack told reporters.
A third deputy at the scene was not wounded.
The two deputies suffered multiple gunshot wounds and were taken to USA Medical Center in Mobile, where Deputy Scott Ward was pronounced dead and the second deputy, who has not been identified, was listed in critical condition, the sheriff's office said.
Ward served as a sheriff's deputy for 15 years.
"I'm very proud of him, it's a big loss," Mack told reporters. "But he was doing his job and we'll pull together in a time like this and we'll honor his memory by carrying on."
The shooting is being investigated by the Baldwin County Major Crimes Task Force, he said.
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So who killed the perp, the third officer? What a weak article.
Take the body of the shooter, dig a hole and before they cover him with dirt, invite anybody and everybody to urinate on him. Cover it up without a marker.
I wonder if
the shooter that killed the officer felt he was being violated by constitutional
rights, and decided to stand up against privacy. I would find out and
investigate the true facts about the whole situation. I think you will see more
of these types of shootings because people are going to stand up for over
regulated law that is illegal to enforce against constitutional the supreme law
of the land. May he was justified in protecting his family and his self. America
takes a stance against those who don’t believe in the oath of serving the
people. I bet there was a reason behind him doing this action of killing of
another being. Time will tell and the media and police will set any perception
they want you to see. My god is with those who took the same oath I did as I
was a soldier willing to protect the people and the contitutional supreme law
of the land.
Uhhh Einstein,
It was quite probably a family member that called the police.
I'm going way out on a limb here and theorize you have several holes in your backyard with Baggies of freeze dried meals and ammunition.
As William said, the family was apparently who called them and HE was acting aggressively toward the family. If the shooter had used a brain instead of a gun no one would be dead. Guess you would like it better if they let him kill his family? Or beat them to a pulp maybe? Maybe you think protecting innocent people from nuts with guns is over regulation? Do you have some stashes of weapons around just in case, by any chance? Wow.
Violation of privacy? The cops were assisting a medical person who was trying to force the "perp" to take some kind of medication or injection. Maybe the "perp" didn't want to take his medication. Did he have a choice? The cops probably assumed that he was psycho or a crazy person because he had been twice involuntarily committed to a mental institution by his mother. His mother may have been the one to call the medics, and the medics probably called the cops. The "perp" was bipolar. Maybe the cops were going to take away the "perp" in a straight jacket. The "perp" could have been fighting for his freedom and against a stereotype. The "perp's" aggressive behaviour could have been caused by his bipolar disease combined with his sensitivity to the reaction and over-reaction of others leading to out of control childlike escalation of events. The cops did know that the "perp" was bipolar; yes! Is force the only way to deal with a bipolar "perp?" Could the cops have offered a box of chocolates to the "perp" to calm him down? Maybe the cops could have told the "perp" that he could have one of their donuts if he would calm down. Etc, and etc.
My deepest sorry for the fallen deputy and the one wounded. About the dirt bag dead, he ended up in the way that he should be, dead. Such a waste of fine officers.
Why give the cop killer his moment of fame with a photo op? Better to show both policemen.
I prefer gun over knives though. Can you imagine if criminals could only break in and rape you at knife point? Knives hurt a lot worse than bullets.
I would much rather be raped at gun point than knife point because to get your attention with a knife they may have to cut you once or twice then rape you, then stab you to death............ you would be like....... ow ow ow ow ow ow that hurts can you shoot me already?
With a gun they need only point it at you, rape you, then leave. Or even if the gunman wants to kill you after, its quick and painless, no ouchie.
Not advocating gun rape at all because I would never want to be raped. Just mentioning the advantages of guns over knives. Crime is a way of life for a nation with so many freedoms given. If we must be raped, I prefer less painful methodology.
Rapes and other crimes in prisons are survivable because of the less lethal means to carry them out with........ no guns.
Unlike prisoners though, criminals outside of jail do have access to guns and as a rule use them so potential victims need not suffer cuts and bruises from a shank...... they instead, die from a bullet. Funny how we out here with freedom are less safe than those that lose it in prison.
Where did rape come into this? You seem to have thought about this a lot.
Just trying to see if anyone was reading. It was more about gun violence which this article is about in its raw nature. A gun crime. An example of how empowering a gun can make an ordinary citizen. Drunk with no weapon we are more compliant of two cops with even a taser or just a particular set of skills.
That same average Joe with a gun becomes a problem for two cops no matter their skills even if they match Liam Neeson from "Taken," and he acquired his over a very long career.
@ Kevin
Who names their daughter Kevin? Strange name for a female. Oh & if you're a guy, trust me, no one wants to rape you. LOL
Oneslacker, what male has an avatar of a woman? As for no one wanting to rape me....... ask you mother, wife and eldest daughter before you make that assumption. They would surely find me quite worthy of them taking me by force as I am sure if they find you the least comely they would have to rape me.
I am sure no woman has found you worth taking by force. You probably can't pay for a hooker to role play you in that capacity or otherwise. I am sure you would have to roofie a dog.
In this case, I believe that the "perp's" mother called for a medic, and the medic called the cops. The medic had responded first to the family's call for assistance. The medic was already on the scene trying to medicate the "perp." Sticking a needle in the arm of the "perp" in order to medicate him could have been like a rape. However, the medic's duty could have and should have been to counsel the cops about how to handle the "perp." The medic could have and should have acted like a police woman officer who is called by the cops, in situations where a woman is raped, to counsel, accompany, and make easier police procedure for the raped woman which includes protecting the raped woman from male cop insensitivity, chauvinism, and voyeurism.
By the way, the medic was called because the "perp" had been diagnosed as having bipolar disease and because he had been twice before iinvoluntarily committed to a mental institution. Perhaps the medic was originally only suppose to sedate the "perp," or perhaps the medic was planning to put the "perp" in a straight jacket and haul him off to be iinvoluntarily committed again. So, could this have been a violation of the "perp's" civil rights?
We need more guns. Lots of guns. The USA needs to be a slaughterhouse. This will weed out the mentally deficient who think they can pull a gun on anyone. Also give their kids guns. This will be technological Darwinism. Guns already kill more people than cars. Let's triple the differential.
darkscience...
i propose one other scenario where the cops have guns and the perpetrator doesnt, however, a nervous cop fires and kills the perp and one of the other officers because they are taught to shoot to kill...
Lets get this straight........ a criminal in prison with no fear of a gun or 2nd amendment right to bear arms, just home made shanks and implements, is far safer than a free citizen outside of prison where criminals can own a gun.
Had that been two prison guards going to a cell to face a hardened criminal with a shank scaring his cellmates, they may all three still be alive and unharmed.
That this was a free ordinary 2nd amendment protected citizen packing heat, he is dead along with a police officer and another cop injured. Who is free in this situation and who is imprisoned?
OK. Now you're being ridiculous. You really think the average person in free society is in more danger than being locked up with a bunch of hardened criminals. Give me a break.
I have moved 25 times in my life & have lived in 7 different states & spent years traveling on business in all 50 states. I still haven't ever felt unsafe or been threatened by someone with a gun in this country.
For the record I worked in Compton, Watts, & south central Los Angeles from 1996 - 1999. I'm a blonde haired, blue eyed white guy originally from Finland. Even working down in the hood in L.A. I never felt unsafe & I was never threatened or attacked or anything.
If you're so afraid of the world go lock yourself in your closet & stay there.
Oneslacker...... so you think prisoners are born in prison? So they didn't get there by committing crimes out here........ nooooooooooo. Hardened criminals are farmed in prison right. I bet you think they wear striped shirts and a mask like hamburglar.
Those guys commit their most heinous crimes out here, that's why they are now in prison with life sentences or on death row. Once they are behind bars, some of them are on 23 hour lock down. They are in a cell sometimes alone or with few other humans. Out here they have their pick of victims at-large and as many guns as Wal Mart will sell one of their buds. Behind bars they don't have access to guns unless they over take a guard.
I am sure the guy that lit up the movie theater at the Batman Premier could have taken out as many people with a knife.
BTW, this is not the middle east. They are driven by religious ideology and hatred. They are willing to kill themselves in a suicide pact. Here in the Us we are some Godless bastages that kill for reasons that Jerry Springer show discusses.
Why are you stalking my posts? Do you like me or something? Are you trying to woo me? I am not into guys so I apologize if I sent you signals.
I am so sad for this officer and his family. Yes this was his "job" to serve and to protect but to respond to a family matter where the family member and the police officer died is sad. People don't realize how emotions rise critically when the police arrive. Guy is ordered to surrender, he gets hotter draws his gun and within 10 seconds it's over and two (maybe more) are dead. Family disputes are the #1 worst calls for police to go to because of the uncertainty of the event. Sometimes even family members start to side with the bad family member against the police who are just there the HELP the family! It's bad enough that cops ARE shot at so often for other bad events that they get hurt and killed in situations like this. Yes police people DO think about the possibility of being shot when taking the job, but they cannot focus on it or they would not be able to do their jobs. This was a brave officer who gave his life to protect this family. God bless him and his family.
R.I.P deputy Ward. Health to the wounded. Condolences to family and friends. Justice was swift and terminal.
who would ever think a white man would kill another white man.
Shhhhhhh... white-on-white crime is a myth! Ask the NRA, and you'll know that fact.
Shhhhhhh..! Crime is for minorities, only. Read your history books.
"Who would ever think a white man would kill another white man"
Well, any European who fought in any of the dozens of wars of empire over the course of their history, including those two minor skirmishes they had in the 1910s and the 1930s - 1940s. Of course there was also the Slavic wars in the 1990s, and any good soccer riot any given Sunday or Saturday or whenever European Football is usually played.
You know, in fact, if it wasn't for the propensity of white men to kill other white men throughout their history the international ediface of European empire wouldn't even been possible. Its not like other groups weren't warlike - hell, the Asians did elevate war to a literal artform (see Sun Tsu) - but white European men were so good at picking fights amongst themselves (see AP European History), and so adept at refining both the practice and the artifacts of war itself, that they had no choice but to become the global hegemons through the force of their raw proficiency at warmongering. In fact, can you name one non-white ethnic group that white men have NOT picked a fight with?
In American majority culture we talk a lot about the aggressiveness of "the usual suspect" ethnic groups we have been conditioned to fear over the decades - blacks, Hispanics, indigenous peoples, and basically anyone who wasn't apart of the big ol' European scrum that was feudal war politics back in the Medieval day - but as someone here noted above it IS the white male who is most likely to show up to their old jobs and start shooting up the place the moment things don't go their way, or the "lone white gunner" who, loaded for bear like Neo breeching Agent Smith's stronghold in "The Matrix", tends to pop up at a schoolyard shooting or a movie premiere or a Sihk temple or a Muslim grammar school or a Federal Building or at a MLK Jr. Day rally ready to blow all comers to kingdom come because they can't seem to take the fact that demographic change in America means someone with slightly darker skin might want the same advantages they took for granted from jumpstreet.
Well, maybe if that is the case that YOU should start realizing that, hey, white men can kill each other (Go F*ing figure!), too. And if that's still too hard for your tribalistic lizard brain to ponder, tune into any program on ID or any 48 Hours or 20/20 crime expose to see how often white people do bad things to each other.
spike: I live in Texas and I hear MANY people say there should be ZERO restrictions on gun ownership and ZERO on where they should be able to carry. Once I asked a guy, "Where would you draw the line? Surely you don't advocate for the right of everyone to own tanks, RPGs or nukes." He replied (and several others in the group nodded in agreement), "There shouldn't be ANY line and that includes NUKES. And who is to say who is 'mentally ill'? It's just another way to take my guns away to put ANY restrictions on gun or ANY kind of weapon."
So...you're wrong. At least here in Texas you sure as heck are.
no line on nukes and you are asking who is mentally ill? seek asap.
amfh,
I live in Texas as well...West Texas. Most everyone I know owns a firearm of some sort. Funny thing is, we don't spend much time at all discussing them, except around hunting season. Now, I don't know about where you reside...in Texas, but the "MANY" you refer to isn't out this way, or in any other part of the state for that matter. This jibberish you claim, is in no way indicitive of "MANY" in this state. Exercise a little thought in your use of word paring when constructing sentences, you will be taken more seriously.
Joe Donahue:
These were not my comments - they were the opinions of several (a group of 9-10) whom I heard express these opinions in a conversation about gun laws. The Texans who believe any citizen should have access to ANY weapon were the same ones who believe that no one should be deprived of owning a gun even if mentally ill. Got it now?
come and take it:
I'm 4th generation Texan and was in Paris, Texas when the conversation I referred to took place. So I can say with personal authority (since I was there and heard it with my own ears) that this group of 9 or 10 guys do, in fact, believe what I wrote. I also belong to a message board where guns are discussed quite frequently, in conjunction with hunting, collecting, target shooting. The same message has been repeated often (and yes, by "MANY") there. They want zero restrictions, period. So, C&TI, I used the words correctly as I constructed my sentences. You, on the other hand, may want to use spell check before you post. Indicative is the correct spelling, not "indicitive".
amfh,
And I am as well. I don't think anyone considers 9-10 individuals as representative of the State of Texas. Nor is it representative of Paris (about 20,000 +). Your comment stated only "Texas"...not Paris. That is what I meant by exercising better sentence construction and paring of words. I must also point out that a "message board" is hardly credible, let alone representative of the entire state. Firearms ownership is a volatile subject fraught with numerous misconceptions, hyperbole, and outright falsehoods. Adding to that, with misleading statements, ( using the singular "Texas") as you did, leaves the impression that this is a state wide sentiment. It is not. As for my using "spell check", well I do. Either I overlooked the misspelling, or there was a glitch in the app. Nonetheless, I stand corrected and acknowledge the misspelling.
In behalf of Michael Jansen's family, I say, GOOD RIDANCE MICHAEL.
guess the ''agressive person'' report was for real.
My sympathy to the deputies family and may the other deputy survive this ordeal. I cannot imagine what it must be like living in a home where this kind of behavior takes place. My parents didn't drink and didn't have guns around - a deadly mix! The article didn't say he was drinking he may have been just plain mean!
Prayers for family and friends of these officers. Man, ya domestic calls, they say they are the call officers dread the most, for good reason. Police officers on the streets nowadays sure do earn the pay.
Three cheers that the scumbag is deceased because it would have been another case of on drugs, emotional problem, or some other @!$%# form an attorney. Pirate Dave
We should face the NRA and make it no longer relevant. F....k the politicians who cave in to their pressure. These nuts even oppose the Feds banning the sale of guns to terrorist suspects without a background check. All this insane talk about the 2nd ammendment rights has created a nation of never ending violence, crime, murder and an exploding prison system breeding more violent behavior with no match in the entire planet.
Yet they flash the bible and the constitutuion as a shield against all criticism. NRA avtivists must be treated as a threat to the security of all Americans,
The reasoning behind going to the man house is vauge. None of the family members who were confronted are quoted in the article to validate 1st shots fired. There is one story here and it is not enough to explain why two human beings are dead.
It's just a first report story. They often do not have ALL the details. Like with any story like this more will come out with time.
Very sad. This officer went to work to do his job, knowing somewhere in the back of his mind, it could cost him his life, and it did.
I've never been a big fan of guns. I was shot accidentally by a family member's gun in my teens. I didn't believe in personally owning a gun, primarily because the likelihood of a member of my own household being shot by it (speaking from experience) is much greater than using it on an intruder. With the situation our society is in, I've come to change my mind, the police can only do so much. I've taken all of the proper precautions (gun safe, keeping the ammunition is a separate location).
I'm sorry for the officer's family and the family of the individual who did this. So many lives changed senselessly. I hope the other officer pulls through. Thank you to all of the officers who risk their lives every day and who are the first call I make when I see something or need help. More people need to get involved.
lkaw56 - To many innocent people getting shot by officers .
While we grieve for the fallen officer , too often we fail to grieve for the innocent civilian killed by law enforcers. These victims never had a chance to make their case or settle for a shot in the leg instead of the deadly response casually applied.....just like drinking a cup of java with doughnuts. L.A, New York, Chicago, Miami Beach, Houston... everywhere, cops are held to different standards and it must be controlled and eventually done away with
@Yhbua
Now you're being ridiculous too. LEOs should shoot people in the leg? You've been watching too many movies & obviously don't know the first thing about firearms training.
No one, not police officers or the general public who enjoy firearms & have been trained in their use, are taught to wound someone who is posing a danger to you. You are taught to shoot at center mass (where most vital organs are located) & to fire until the person no longer poses a threat to you. Sometimes the person who gets shot survives & sometimes they don't.
If an officer or even a civilian can stop a threat to their safety by just wounding an attacker then - THE PERSON USING THE GUN WAS NOT JUSTIFIED TO SHOOT IN THE 1st PLACE, ESPECIALLY A CIVILIAN. Because it would mean that their life wasn't really in danger & that they were not in fear of losing their life. They could have dealt with person threatening them through other means.
In addition, what do you think is going to happen if an officer shoots someone just to wound them. The police department & the city or state that they work for is going to get the pants sued off of them.
A civilian would also be sued & also be in legal trouble since they were not justified in shooting since, like I said above, their life wasn't in serious danger if they were able to stop the threat by wounding someone.
C'mon Yhbua that's just being ignorant. When a civilian is ordered to drop his weapon and does not he is a threat. Once he has been ordered to drop the weapon and raises his arms he's ignoring a direct order and can be shot if perceived to be a threat. You cannot say so easily that he should have been shot in the leg because you don't know what the situation was. Police officers do not want to ever KILL someone, only stop the aggression. If a body shot is the best viable shot before he himself is shot (police officer in real danger) then that is what will happen. Every situation is different. The body is obviously a larger, easier target then hitting a leg so if the first shot is emergency then it will be in the body. In summary: either the guy wanted to be hit and possibly killed or he could have just given up his gun and he would have been taken into custody. A court visit. HE chose the bullet by not just surrendering. HE CHOSE. The only people I am saddened for are the police officers and their families as well as the family of the dead guy. Although I suspect they have lived with his anger and violence for a long long time...
This is a sad time. The loose of life is never easy or good. Bad peopke seem to be worse than ever. We Should all cary a wepon to help the police. When a bad guy makes a move, we could help.
Yes, it is obviously sad that anyone died police or anyone else, like the shooter apparently got the death penalty as well, done by the police without trial, like in Afghanistan or third world country.
The USA police shoot about 36 bullets into people average every day (that we know of), and 2.7 people are killed that way every day by police, so I obviously see no difference in who is the killer, and who dies unless you prescribe to a dictatorship.!--Never mind the 3500 people a year police chase to their death for using cell phones or speeding, as the police themselves do every day, all the time while driving!
The USA police kill by shooting about 15 times more people per million than in regular western countries, that is a fact.
Remember Empire state just 3 month ago 9 shot in just one sitting by police in an extremely crowded area, so far no one is in jail, like all the shooters would have been in EU!!
We need to get some better education and control of all this.---AND some real teachings about what actual FREEDOM is compared to civilized countries.
Well there Border Guard, you're welcome to leave whenever you desire. I very seriously doubt if anyone has you in chains. Return to the Father Land when you so please.