Texas cop accused of excess force, cursing teen in video

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A Texas police department will investigate claims that an officer cursed and used excessive force against a teen, after the teen’s mother said she will make a complaint on Monday.

Andrew Rodriguez, 17, resisted arrest when police tried to take him into custody on an old trespassing warrant, according to his mother Kelly Pope.

A video of the incident taken by Rodriguez’s friend shows an officer in control of Rodriguez on the ground when another officer comes running over.

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“He knows he handled it badly at first, that he should have been a little more cooperative,” said Pope, who lives in Hurst, a town located between Dallas and Ft. Worth. "[The officer] comes up at a jolting sprint, kneed him right in the back of the head and as you can see on the video and says, 'If you move I’m gonna bleep bleep kill you,” Pope said, describing the video.

The officer, who identified himself on the video as "Arnold 654," also used a gay slur after the teen used it.

Pope plans to go to the Hurst Police Department on Monday to speak directly with the police chief about the incident.

"This is not behavior that the city of Hurst promotes or condones in any way,” said the Hurst Police in a statement to NBCDFW. “We strive to build a stronger, safer community through our work around the city and will continue to do so through appropriate action.  The incident will be investigated internally."

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Rodriguez declined to comment on the incident and is now back at his mother’s home.

"He's okay," said Pope of her son.  "He doesn't want any part of anything. He's a little embarrassed."

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"He's a little embarrassed."

"Aw, c'mon mom, don't make me look like a dick in this".

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#1 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 4:46 AM EST

All we need is another police officer demonstrating bad behavior for the public to point at and accuse all officers of such behaviors. It is hard enough to get the public to work with law enforcement in helping to cut down on crime. When such police perform poorly, they do a disservice to those who work hard in their communities to make a difference.

There are over 740,000 officers currently serving in the United States. It is the negative behaviors and shootings which make the news. Not those who are serving doing a good job which make the headlines most often. If you ask people or read comments from the public, you would think most police were bad. It is hardly the case.

While the youth in this video was no angel to be sure, he did deserve to be treated in a professional manner. It leaves a nasty mark every time a suspect isn't treated professionally, even when the public would demand one be treated like an animal for what they have done. Police have the hard job of carrying out their duties, without letting their personal judgments dictate how they like to see justice handled in their cases.

  • 23 votes
#1.1 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 5:31 AM EST

The story dosen't tell me enough to make a judgement. I hate cops, but if you have a problem with them just do as they say and fix the problem later. Their just doing their job. Or so they think.

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#1.2 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 5:45 AM EST
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His mom is the one who I find the most intriguing in this story. I don't want to sound stereotypical or anything.... but (white) trash breeds (white) trash. It is a vicious cycle I know first hand of.

I wish people like her would stop having children. They don't give them the proper development nor education to become productive members of society. She raised a criminal and will justify any and all negativity in his life for the rest of time. She will be an enabler.

*Sigh* But of course the real problem with our society is that we are falling farther and father from Jesus. Those progressives are ruining everything! (Sarcasm)

Okay... now you can flag me. :)

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#1.3 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 6:11 AM EST

Poor little innocent punk resisting arrest got cussed at. Poor poor baby. Such a big man to have your mommy complain about how you were treated. I'm with the cops on this one. If you can't handle it, don't be a criminal punk. You deserved it.

  • 57 votes
#1.4 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 6:11 AM EST

For the cursing, who cares? If he's crazy enough to resist arrest, then the "f" word isn't going to scar him. Unfortunately, the officer's knee to the head is bad and causes people not to respect the police.

Unfortunately, you've got officers risking their lives and are NOT supported by the justice system. If resisting arrest carried a substantial penalty, then maybe the criminals would think twice.

Bottomline is that the penalties for criminals is a joke and the officers risk their lives for that joke. It's not far fetched for an officer to lose it knowing full well that this PUNK is going to walk with probation.

Frankly, all penalties for crimes should be mandatory and doubled. No more liberal judges letting punks off.

  • 25 votes
#1.5 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:08 AM EST

And the bullys are setting a fine example again what a joke the biggest bullies on the block gonna stop bullying and paws does that go for the bullys too

  • 2 votes
#1.6 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:45 AM EST

Difficult to glean from a written article but mom's attitude seems to be rather blase. As if this occurrence and son's behavior is old news and not news at all. Just sayin'.

  • 11 votes
#1.7 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:49 AM EST

And he threatened to kill the kid real nice but not a surprise

  • 12 votes
#1.8 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:52 AM EST

I don't see where the officer did anything to warrent disciplinary behavior. The bottom line is that the teen caused EVERYTHING that happened. Had he cooperated with the police, then none of this would have happened. Better yet, had he not tresspassed then he would not have been arrested. I am very pro-law enforcement and very pro-police officer. All of you who say you "hate cops" or don't support these brave men and women in what they do, I hope the next time you are a victim of a crime the police ignore you and let you fend for yourself. That would serve you right for disrespecting them. If it weren't for the police, the criminals would win, so hopefully, someday some thug will take you out or victimize you then maybe you (or your next of kin) will learn to appreciate and show proper respect for the police.

  • 25 votes
#1.9 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:28 AM EST

I agree with you, Vince, in areas where there is a police force. In those cities where the police have morphed into a paramilitary corps, I would tend to disagree. In this case, I don't think the incident warrants any more severe disciplinary action than telling the officer to watch what he says. Otherwise, it's all on the stupid kid.

  • 19 votes
#1.10 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:39 AM EST

Yesterday I drove past a house where the police had a young male handcuffed, lying face down on the ground. I went about my chores and when I came back about an hour later the scene hadn't changed.

It was cold yesterday--in the upper 30s. The ground was damp. The young man didn't have a coat on. I was cold outside even dressed in a winter coat.

I wanted to stop and ask the police to get him up off the ground and cover him. But I live in Indianapolis, and the police here are known for being a-holes, drunks, and animals. I was actually afraid to stop and speak to them, no matter how politely.

And so I drove on home. And tried to talk myself out of feeling guilty by telling myself I am a senior citizen with a heart condition and probably wouldn't survive an altercation with armed thugs in uniforms.

It's come to that.

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#1.11 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:41 AM EST

The young man should take this as a LEARNING EXPERIENCE, suck it up and grow up. Too bad he didn't learn RESPECT at HOME, then the police would not have had to educate him. Nobody died, it was a good day.

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#1.12 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:45 AM EST

The behavior in question is that of the "officer" who blatantly attacked a restrained prisoner. It was nothing more than a vicious attack done because he failed to realize that a camera was rolling. No one is inferring that the young man was innocent of resisting, but that in no way rectifies an attack against a restrained prisoner. Jake, do you honestly believe the officer's attack was warranted? Deweydan, what exactly was to be learned from this? Perhaps that as civilized people, we still don't respect the intent of our laws and the good officers that uphold them?

  • 13 votes
#1.13 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:00 AM EST

Just the manner, in which, the cop said his name and badge number, "Arnold 654", shows a great lack of professionalism, and a great lack of suitability for being a cop. He CLEARLY has a major attitude, and major issues. Combine that with the other things he said about moving and killing the kid, he should be fired, and prosecuted for the knee to the neck.

He is a punk with a badge.

  • 20 votes
#1.14 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:30 AM EST

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say this is a racial thing. Obviously the black cop has some pent up issues with white people to be acting like that.

  • 9 votes
#1.15 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:46 AM EST

Typical police behavior these days. It's all about being a tough guy and nothing to do with serving and protecting your community.

  • 14 votes
#1.16 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:56 AM EST

I hope this is'nt a sign of the future.Police officers see so much everyday.I am sure it wears them down to a point where they just lose their temper.Personally,i would get tired of dealing with the same crap everyday and never seeming to make progress and then top it off with some punk running his mouth.I am glad i am not a police officer because i have a limit to the amount of Bu!! Sh!t i can put up with.Better off in the Infantry for sure.

  • 5 votes
#1.17 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:00 AM EST

Sadly there are a lot of good cops out there, but also too many bullies. Trespassing or not, kneeing a teenager in the back of the head certainly sounds like excessive force. No one's life was in danger; the action was completely unnecessary.

  • 11 votes
#1.18 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:06 AM EST

All cops have a god complex and are good for nothing but writing tickets and beating people. Badge = @$$h0le, gun = total @$$h0le. Put them together and you can see the problem. "We the People" have NO rights left. We protest injustice and get beaten and arrested. America the land of the free, right. Are we in a police state or marshal law? Why do they let these guys repeatedly get away with these kinds of actions? We all know this will get swept under the rug as soon as the press finds something else to write about. And the cop will have nothing done to him. My house gets broken into, doesn't rate a cop going out there even though there is a woman in the home alone. If it was a cop’s wife they would have been there in 2 minutes with guns drawn. Car got broken into same no response. Was assaulted and got it on video, they couldn't do anything about it. They acted like they were going to arrest me, I guess I didn’t let the guy choke me right. Like I said, they are only good for writing tickets, beating people and oh ya going to Krispy Kreme when the "hot" sing is lit. Protect and serve citizens is no more. Now it's protect their own and serve us with fines. What looooooosers...

  • 10 votes
#1.19 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:07 AM EST

Dawgfan,

Oh it's not a "racial thing" if the police officer is black & the perp is white, only when it's the other way around.

  • 5 votes
#1.20 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:09 AM EST

If the Mom was a smart women - she would leave it alone.

He knows he handled it badly at first, that he should have been a little more cooperative,” said Pope",

No, Mom, he should have been fully cooperative and not resisted arrest. He needs to clean up his OWN mess. YOU are not doing him any favors.

  • 11 votes
#1.21 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:10 AM EST

So the Mom says her son didn't really want any part of anything anymore, but yet she throws him back into the situation by going to and talking to the press....And he resisted arrest over an offense where he was probably going to get a small fine and then had to be the tough guy....

Ni sympathy for the kid....

  • 9 votes
#1.22 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:11 AM EST

Although the officer should lose his job the Dept's IA will sweep the incident under the rug.

  • 8 votes
#1.23 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:20 AM EST

He didn't just cuss at him, he kneed a restained kid in the back of the head. It could have easily do permanent damage. This cop has to go.

  • 13 votes
#1.24 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:22 AM EST

Hopefully the Po Pos involved will recieve a decent penalty instead of a two week suspension without pay.

Though most corrupt and misconduct police officers get very little especially in junk like this which is quite common. @!$%# THE POLICE!

  • 3 votes
#1.25 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:22 AM EST

Hey Mommy,

Listen to the rap songs on his phone and then call me and complain.

Policemen handle these types of people 10 hours a day, EVERY day. There is more to this story than they are saying. What got this man so worked up????

It never ceases to amaze me that we want, no we expect these people to handle the criminals in the world, but want them to always be "prefect gentlemen/women" in the process!!! Unbelieveable!!

As for this young man, he had an outstanding tresspassing warrant. He knew he had it, his Mom new he had it and it was never taken care of. WHY?

  • 12 votes
#1.26 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:23 AM EST

This is just typical police behavior and it will continue as long as we as a country tolerate it. Cops feel they are "above" the law and to a large extent they are. If cop misbehavior is not caught on camera you can forget anything being done about it and most of the time not even then. The internal affairs will "investigate it" if it is particularly bad as long as it is showing up in the media and then it will be dropped. We need a better kind of cop in this country, all over the country, they are all the same, but we are not going to get them, because most of the population is in denial and sees no problem with cop behavior.

  • 8 votes
#1.27 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:24 AM EST

They are both at fault here. The kid shouldn't have resisted arrest just like Rodney King shouldn't have resisted arrest. The officer shouldn't have put a knee drop on the kid's head and threaten to kill him. The kid needs to be in jail and the cop needs to be fired. No lawsuits. All those do is increase everyone's insurance costs.

  • 5 votes
#1.28 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:25 AM EST

Of course he doesn't want "any part of anything"...after committed a crime and then committed another when they attempted to arrest him for the first. What kid like that wants to face the consequences???

And now his mother is going to make a stink of things because the officer cussed at her son while he was attempting to resist??? It's very apparent where the boy is getting his horrible life guidance from. Mom should just STFU and consistently discipline the kid for a change. Of course that discipline is likely coming 10 years too late.

  • 8 votes
#1.29 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:40 AM EST

They both should go to jail. Major character flaw in ALL cops. Every cop thinks THEY are the law and laws were made for people not cops. Cops are here to enforce the law not obey it. Cops know there are only 2 kinds of people. Cops and perps. They hide behind 'protect and serve'. Never ever trust a cop. He's lyin' from the get go. Divorce rate so high not because of the job. The 'I am superior, I am the law' mentality. They're there to preserve the corrupt system and they're so dumb they don't even know it. That's how the bosses like them.

  • 4 votes
#1.30 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:52 AM EST

Terry,

"Typical??" I know a lot of policemen and this is not "typical" of any of them. Including my brother who is a 20 year veteran who hates this type of behavior for obvious reasons!! Most of them are aware that they are on camera all of the time!! What you forget or simply don't care about is that they want to go home alaive and unhurt at then end of the day to their families.

However even with your belief and hate of them, when the time comes they will take out the bad guy that is threatening you and your family. Even to the point of giving their own lives.

  • 4 votes
#1.31 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:53 AM EST

The little thug got just what he deserved. And mom should make him suffer the punishment. On the other hand,90% of all police officers use excessive force and have no business on the job.

  • 1 vote
#1.32 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:03 AM EST

The punk committed an offense and is now getting locked up and resisted. So mom is upset that he got cursed at???? Welcome to the Honey Boo Boo generation. they should have tazed him. Mom raised a piece of trash and now is upset at everyone else.

  • 2 votes
#1.33 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:03 AM EST

Windancersong posted a well thought out, considered response. Mary then states she doesn't know enough to make an opinion, then states she "hates cops"--I think she made her opinion obvious. Then the comments descend into the usual over-the-top hyperbole on both sides. I DON'T hate cops, but it appears the officer's conduct was excessive. It hardly justifies firing him, but some disciplinary action is probably warranted. Hurst is a pretty small town--this kind of incident can poison community-police relations for quite a while. On the other hand, the perp acted like a punk and certainly deserves no sympathy. So he's "a little embarrassed"? Good. He should be a LOT "embarrassed", first in having an outstanding warrant and then for acting like an ass when the first officer attempted to place him under arrest. "If you can't do the time, don't do the crime." Bottom line is you don't run from the police and you don't resist arrest. Better yet, don't commit a crime in the first place.

  • 5 votes
#1.34 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:13 AM EST

Wha wha, cry me a river. It's just a good thing he isn't black or they would claim this was racially motivated and all the whiney libs in this country would have their panties up in a bunch over it.

  • 2 votes
#1.35 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:14 AM EST

I hate cops,

I hope you never need one. People that feel like you are either criminals or jerks that deserved a ticket for driving badly and got one. Somehow I've made it to 57 and never got pulled over for anything other than a traffic offense and deserved it every time. Even though most of the time I felt like I did nothing wrong AT THE TIME. The kid had a warrant on him and resisted arrest. Don't want to get roughed up? Don't break the law and then make it worse by resisting arrest.

  • 4 votes
#1.36 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:17 AM EST

You who call the police losers are in reality the losers. This cop did nothing to warrant anything but a verbal warning. And, that warning should be to watch out for the scuds with cameras. This kid is trash, and has no respect for anyone. Tough crap kid. No sympathy here. By, the way, did you see the size of that kid? That my friends is a man with a messed up value system.

  • 1 vote
#1.37 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:28 AM EST

I don't feel bad for the kid. Act like an a$$hole get treated like one as far as I'm concerned. Was there perhaps some excessive force? Maybe. But that tends to happen when you resist arrest. Once you do that, I think you've gotten even the best of cops pissed off and from that point forward won't get respect from them. The person above saying they probably wouldn't survive an altercation with police, well the keyword there is altercation. Cooperate, odds are you're not going to get beaten. Even if you're in the right, fighting and being uncooperative isn't going to help your cause. Might as well just cooperate and sort it out later, since you're going to be going to jail regardless. I just love how people talk about these police states and cops only being there to write tickets and beat you. Personally, I stay on the right side of the law and I've never been beaten or harassed by cops. And the only ones I've had to deal with for any situation have been respectful and fast acting. Guess it depends where you're at and what department it is. I also wonder how many cops are breaking laws and having it swept under the rug like everyone says vs. people just automatically having that mindset regardless of having seen any actual incidents. I'm sure it does happen, but for every time I hear people making baseless claims like that I see actual incidents of cops misbehaving and being reprimanded and fired. Frankly I can name numerous accounts just off the top of my head in my area of my state and can't think of any off hand where a cop has gotten away with something. Lets see, State Trooper drinking on the job; fired no questions asked. City officer (a veteran LT. with lots of commendations nonetheless) hitting a woman that he had thought threw a bottle at him; immediately suspended and subsequently fired. Cop using a stun gun on a fellow officer inside the police station as a prank (something that wasn't on camera and the public would have never found out about like these public instances); fired. Cop getting into an altercation with his chief over the mishandling of a case; both fired. That's just in the past few months. I think there are for more actual incidents where police are reprimanded and it's just a preconceived mindset that so many cops get away everything. Sure, there are some bad cops, most are good though and aren't out there to 'take away your rights." The way I see it there are a lot of a$$holes in the world. Some of them just happen to become cops.

Really, you couldn't pay me enough to do that job. All the idiots you deal with. Go from some nuisance BS calls to one where your life is suddenly in danger. I've talked to plenty of cops that don't abuse their power and do bad things but they're still worried that in today's society everyone is filming everything and they constantly have that over their head. Then you get people wanting to sue the police for everything. No thanks. Most of the people that complain and hate cops could never do the job.

  • 2 votes
#1.38 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:01 PM EST

Vince-545056 @ #1.9:

Vince, we are talking about a MINOR. The kid is 17 years old! The first officer had the situation under control and the second officer came in flexing muscle and obviously abusing the person in custody. NOTE: at this point, the minor child is, in fact, in custody. THAT is what the officer did wrong. His partner had the situation under control. Secondly, he over-acted in the situation, using excessive force for the situation and abusive language.

It is nice that you are "very pro-law enforcement" but you need to realize that not all law enforcement personnel are good people. Many ... too many ... abuse the power they are given. Just because a person pins on a badge does not mean they are good or will use the power they are given wisely. And just because a person straps on a gun, does not mean they are psychologically disposed to use the weapon wisely.

"...hopefully, someday some thug will take you out or victimize you..."

Really? You wish harm on another human being just to prove a point???? So what you are saying is that you have no regard for the law and, right or wrong, just because the cop wears a badge he or she is entitled to do whatever they want?

Here's a story for you. A couple of cops go out and get drunk in their squad car. They decide to play the highway version of "mailbox baseball" and start knocking down the reflector poles along the side of the highway. Before you know it, the officer in the passenger seat is decapitated.

This is a true story. But you have just presented us with the opinion that, right or wrong, the cops are always right. How does this scenario jibe with your mindset?

Cops steal drugs from lock-up at night and the next day are out on the street "keeping the peace". There are even police officers doing hard time for murder, drug dealing, and a plethora of other major as well as 'minor' crimes.

Your blind acceptance of "all things blue" is not rational and people who cannot see the ignorance in that kind of thought process are not supporting law enforcement, they are merely supporting the prevalent brainwashed mentality and encouraging crime rather than fighting it.

I have worked in the legal field for many years and I do have a great deal of respect and admiration for GOOD cops. But not all cops are good. And sometimes (though not, apparently, in this particular case) the people arrested for a crime are not guilty. Hence the judicial system's caveat that "all suspects must be considered innocent until proven guilty".

"... learn to appreciate and show proper respect for the police."

I think the real key to your diatribe is proper respect. And, since this particular officer did not behave properly, he is not entitled to that respect but has earned a police review board investigation. THAT'S what he did wrong.

(Oh, btw, it's "warr[a]nt" not "warr[e]nt")

  • 2 votes
#1.39 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:05 PM EST

tactical45 @ #1.37:

Again, tacky, not all police are 'good guys' and, since you really know nothing about this particular incident, you are not in a position to call the minor names and you really don't know much of anything about his value system.

"... a messed up value system"? Anyone who would give all leos carte blanche just because the badge says so has a pretty messed up value system and that is exactly why some of our major cities are so messed up. No one knows who to trust anymore.

HINT: It's not always the cops. And that's the problem.

  • 1 vote
#1.40 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:12 PM EST

"I don't want to sound stereotypical or anything.... but (white) trash breeds (white) trash. It is a vicious cycle I know first hand of."

Then don't say it because it DOES make you sound racist. As if only white people breed trash???

If you could read you'd see he has an Hispanic surname, and TV news video reports show him and his video-recording friend are Hispanic. Not going to get involved in discussions on racial sub-ethics. The punk who resisted and got his feelings hurt by harsh language that he himself uses, is Hispanic and most likely (geographical assumption) is of Mexican descent. The officer that all you PC babies want to rail against is black. Where is the "white trash" except maybe you and your mother, GCK? ("...vicious circle I know first hand of.")

" "He's okay," said Pope of her son. "He doesn't want any part of anything. He's a little embarrassed." "

Then land your helicopter, mom. Under Texas criminal law, at 17 he's an adult. You should have taught him how to interact better with the police.

  • 1 vote
#1.41 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:14 PM EST

TXHorseman

TXHorseman,

You are one of the ones that I was referring to as being in denial. Nothing is going to change that. We need cops, but we need a different kind of cop. Even the cops in the cop reality shows are seen misbehaving, using excessive force, with five of them screaming different instructions to the suspect at the same time. We mostly need a total makeover in hiring and training our police force, a better educated person is needed, and a different psychological profile needs to be used in choosing the candidates. We are hiring bullies and thugs to be cops...it is as simple as that. The bullies and thugs are attracted to these positions so they can be bullies and not be prosecuted for it.

  • 1 vote
#1.42 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:22 PM EST

@thewordsmith,

It doesn't matter if the person is 17 or 18 or 58. Just in the last week a 13 year old murdered her stepsister in ATL by stabing her 7 times in the chest, and a 16 year old killed his stepfather in N. GA with a sword. Just because they are under the legal age of 18 doesn't mean they are not capable of violence or killing. Yeah, the 2nd cop that came in went overboard with a knee drop, but the 17 yr old brought it on himself by resisting arrest.

  • 2 votes
#1.43 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:55 PM EST

Yes Terry...According to people like you we need a different kind of cop...Ones that can disarm a suspect with a weapon by just verbal commands and a lot of I love yous....Ones that can diffuse a violent situation with hugs and flowers....Ones that will die easily because they are afraid to defend themselves because they will be sued and lose their jobs to appease the trash of this country....

Yes...A new breed....

  • 4 votes
#1.44 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:00 PM EST

So Terry, You think it should be like Beverly Hills Cop is that it??? Never Happen.

I'm around them all the time. You are the one that is wrong sorry!! Do bad cops exist?? Yes!!

When the police are called into a situation they are there to take charge!! Otherwise, why call them???

They guys I know when called into a situation will handcuff everyone there!! Why? They have no idea who did what to whom until they can get control and then work it out. You decide to fight, you're going down. Simple as that. Have you ever riden around with a cop to see what they deal with?? I doubt it.

Better educated. Here a prospective policeman must have at least an assoicates degree! My brother, you know, one of the bullies and thugs, has a B.S. in Sociology. They never stop training. They watch these types of videos constantly. Do you not think the cities invovled get sued for bad cops or bad situations or just simple mistakes??

I agree that there are bad cops, but I will always take exception to the ALL COPS statements. I realize that I am wasting my time, but there it is for what it is worth.

  • 1 vote
#1.45 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:07 PM EST

TXHorseman

Just more denial. I am an old guy, a retired Electrical Engineer. I have seen a lot of cops over the years, been friends with a lot of cops over the years, had them for neighbors too. The most obnoxious SOB I have ever met was an FCI CO that lived next door to me, while not a cop, he thought he was. Even the cops I knew and were friends with had some of the same demeanor, they didn't act that way toward me, but I listened to their "war" stories. Also, I am not some pansy liberal, I am a Texas Republican, a conservative, I am a miltary vet, own guns, and have a Texas CHL. I am well educated and have lived a long time and I stand by my observations. Insults are not going to change that.

  • 1 vote
#1.46 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:26 PM EST

Here's a link to the video in it's entirety (the original footage):

www . youtube . com/watch?v=LJV2BsM12sY

Yes the teen shouldn't have been resisting, but even the teen admitted he was in the wrong for doing that.

The 2nd officer clearly goes overboard. At one point he tells the guy with the camera "get the f$#% over here." The guy stands up then the 2nd officer says "Sit the f$@#^ down and don't move." There was no need for the knee to the head as the 1st officer had already gotten the teen face down on the ground, both hands behind his back, and was cuffing him. The knee was uncalled for.

    #1.47 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:42 PM EST

    "Most of the people that complain and hate cops could never do the job." --Zorloc

    Amen, brother.

    Since police officers are chosen and hired from the citizenry, then common sense tells you that attitudes and problems that exist within the citizenry will carry over into the police force as a whole. The individual police agencies are just a microcosm of the community at large. Most departments do as good of a job as possible weeding out "bad guys," but since "bad guys" exist in the community they also make their way onto the force. I don't know if there are any statistics available to prove/disprove this, but I would bet that there is less corruption per capita in this country's police departments than within the general population.

    Therefore, if you want to "clean up" the police departments, you need to start with the citizenry because that is the pool the police officers are chosen from. The anti-police bigots on this forum won't admit this because it removes their "it's not me it's them" defense.

    So many people get on these news forums and make stereotyping statements about police officers that they wouldn't dare say about some racial minority group or homosexual people. They are too blinded by their own bigotry to understand that, even though "Police" is not a racial demographic, they are still stereotyping and insulting a minority group of people that is comprised of individuals, not mindless robots that all think alike.

    I wonder how many of the posters on this forum would have wet their panties if joethejust had said something like "Major character flaw in ALL homosexuals. Never ever trust a black guy. He's lyin' from the get go." Therein lies the hypocrisy of the anti-cop bigots.

    • 2 votes
    #1.48 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:50 PM EST

    @allen,

    Thanks for the link. While the kid did deserve to go to jail, that 2nd officer needs to be fired. That was overboard when the kid had already given up and was being cuffed. I'd like to know what the first officer said to the kids with the camera phone afterwards.

    • 1 vote
    #1.49 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 2:01 PM EST

    Terry...Since you said you were old, I am guessing that your friends who were cops were cops a while ago?? If that is the case then, yes, cops years ago had a completely different demeanor and could get away with it. Cops nowadays, in my opinion, conduct themselves MUCH differently then even 20 years ago. I used to be a cop. I was never and a$$hole and considered MOST citations attitude adjustments. If you were cool with me you most likely would leave with a "have a nice day"....Give attitude and it will get adjusted....Are there bad cops?? Of course...They are people just like everyone else and get tempted to do stupid stuff just like everyone else...The good cops are the ones who don't do it.....

    Being friends with cops doesn't mean you'll ever know what it is like to be one and what we have/had to go through on a daily basis....

    I mean I have friends that are Black...But it doesn't mean I'll ever know what its like to be Black.....

    • 3 votes
    #1.50 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 3:52 PM EST

    Terry,

    Insults??????

    I mearly provided an opposing view!! I too have been around for many moons. The bother with 20 years is a much younger brother. I believe you are wrong. Simple as that. Unlike you, I have been out on duty with my brother and have seen first hand how he is treated.

      #1.51 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 4:43 PM EST

      http://youtu.be/LJV2BsM12sY

      This is the whole video of the incident.

      You watch, and then decide.

        #1.52 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:16 PM EST
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        So let me get this straight..............the kid has a WARRANT (meaning he has a history of trouble), then resisted arrest. The kid is lucky that's all he got away with.

        It sounds like Mom (where's Dad?) is now looking at her problem child as the "Goose that Laid the Golden Egg", hoping to cash in on the collateral of his misdeads.

        • 24 votes
        #2 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 5:08 AM EST

        People get WARRANTs for unpaid speeding tickets. That makes assaulting them okay?

        • 18 votes
        #2.1 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 5:57 AM EST

        I'm sorry, I think you missed the point. Maybe you should read the post again.

        • 15 votes
        #2.2 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 6:18 AM EST

        joemike404: give me a break. We don't know what happened with the second cop before the video started. Maybe he had been chasing and stuggling with the kid before the first cop caught the kid. What we do know is the kid had a warrant and the kid resisted arrest. There is no such thing as excessive force when a person resists arrest. How many cops have to killed by a criminal grabbing a cop's gun before you get that point? Let's all feel sorry for the punk.

        • 10 votes
        #2.3 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 6:43 AM EST
        Comment author avatarEki Brnhntvia Facebook

        EXCUSE ME William Watson....As a person in law enforcement, that is ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE. There is no such thing as excesive force when a person resists?!?!? Please do not speak about things you know nothing about.

        • 11 votes
        #2.4 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:00 AM EST

        Joemike - "unpaid speeding tickets"? How about if you miss the date, the fine & points are doubled? And, $500 penalty for "contempt of the law". And, it doubles every 3 months until you pay it. When they catch you, they can confiscated your assets until FULL amount is paid.

        Maybe some of those "unpaid speeding tickets" will get paid and the cops wouldn't need to chase them down....Cha ching....not to mention, it would help local govt budgets.

        • 3 votes
        #2.5 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:13 AM EST

        Frank, You had a point?!?

        Paws - What are you so angry about - been speeding, have we??

        William - You're happy living in a country where, according to you, resisting arrest should be a capital offense? Hey, if there's no such thing as excessive force... And did you note that when the cop using excessive force arrived, the suspect was already restrained? How exactly would a handcuffed suspect, flat on his back get the arriving officer's gun?

        • 5 votes
        #2.6 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:52 AM EST

        "As a person in law enforcement, that is ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE. There is no such thing as excesive force when a person resists?!?!?"

        Eki Brnhnt; Your comment expressing your belief that there is no such thing as excessive force with suspects who resist scares the hell out of me. I am a member of a family with multiple members in law enforcement. While officers risk their lives everyday to protect and serve there are also some who abuse their authority and go too far. The video is an example of this. The suspect is subdued. The knee to the head shows an officer out of control as does too the apparent rage in his voice and on his face as he "identifies" himself. Officers such as him and those who believe in a "no limits response are either members or candidates for the rubber gun squad. Imho.

        • 9 votes
        #2.7 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:59 AM EST

        Reinforcing the second Cop OR this punk's bad behavior is reprehensible. The kid was down and handcuffed. The Arnold Cop (wasn't that the name of the pig on Green Acres?) then does nothing unusual for police following a takedown.

        That in no way makes it proper or excusable. He will not be given a criminal record, whereas the kid very well may get charges dropped/reduced as a deal if he doesn't push for charges against the cop. We'll see.

        It is wrong to not at least suspend the cop w/ no pay for a month, but the kid will definitely get a day in court as well.

        Both will be judged. Good thing the other kid was recording video, or it would have been just another unprovable accusation of excess force agaionst police that would have been denied. Cops do have a very dangerous job, but that is what they sign up for, including following codes of conduct.

        Good catch, Cop No 1! Bad Film Cameo/Knee to the head, Arnold Cop!! Busted, and Busted.

        As far as calling the Mom trash, real class act. Hope you live in a burst proof bubble.

        • 2 votes
        #2.8 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:17 AM EST

        Sorry - this was a cut of the video to make it look bad for the 2nd officer backing up the 1st. The punk was struggling with the 1st copy for several minutes and was not subdued. The 2nd officer got there just in time, applied a little pressure and finally got the punk to comply.

        Far too often backup doesn't arrive in time and the punk gets control of the officers gun and kills him or her with it.

        This punk was still struggling right up until the 2nd officer arrived and placed a knee on his head.

        He is lucky to be alive and his white trash mother should shut her food stamp eating mouth.

        • 6 votes
        #2.9 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:18 AM EST

        A warrent for "tresspassing". Wow, the way they came down on the teen you'ld think he commited murder. Then the way the officer presented himself showed that he was no more than a thug....

        • 7 votes
        #2.10 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:20 AM EST

        I am not saying that the cop was in the right by doing what he did. BUT, if you give a cop your respect and follow his commands then none of this would have happened. "Most all" cops don't just assault people for no reason. It sounds like this kid was probably being a punk azz and the cop wanted to put him back in his place.

        • 5 votes
        #2.11 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:00 AM EST

        A warrant does not indicate a history of trouble. It indicates that the individual has been accused of breaking a law. No history is advanced through the issuance of a warrant.

        • 2 votes
        #2.12 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:04 AM EST

        Blake, it would have happened. The young man was a restrained prisoner. The officer was wrong.

        • 5 votes
        #2.13 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:05 AM EST

        Have you guys seen the video of the cop kicking the handcuffed womwn in the head?

        Turned out she was kicking out at the cop, but it still did not warrant the Kung Fu Panda Head Kick.

        Cop kicks handcuffed woman in the head - YouTube

        Plus THESE Greatest Hits!

        Videos of women kicked in head by cop

        Now, just want to hear from you supporters of cop violence that these are justified because...

        • 2 votes
        #2.14 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:16 AM EST

        @ me in ky

        You're an idiot. Eki Brnhnt was reposting what someone above had commented and telling them that they were wrong because he is a cop and knows that there is excessive force. He wasn't saying that any force is justified when people resist arrest. Try reading post 2.3 then Eki's.

        • 2 votes
        #2.15 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:41 AM EST

        If this had happened in Germany there would have been no questions asked.we here in America have it pretty darn easy when it comes to law enforcement.In Germany and other countries in Europe,YOU don't resist or run your mouth.If you do it is your fault for what happens next.I am not saying that the cops ere right on this case,nor was the kid right.Who knows what will happen?Two wrongs don't make a right and this is America after all.Perhaps justice for all will prevail.

          #2.16 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:51 AM EST

          The world we have now is violence, the kids grow up realo fast because of gangs dope dealers and bullies.They are fighting with the law because of how they feel against the rules. The police have to put up with the kids the drunks and the families that fight at their homes.All of what the police go through is good or bad during the day.Either way when a policeman is going to serve papers or arrest someone, the person should do what they are told, and the police should keep their minds o0n whats going on. If the kid swears ignore it. If he fights then use so much force that fits. Rodney Kiing is excessive force which is what I see because of the knee to the head. How would the officer feel if he killed the teen and how long would he last in jail.

            #2.17 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:54 AM EST

            like i already said,If Rodney King had been in Germany and dealing with the German police,those german cops would have been instructors instead of out of a job.Be glad of what we really have here in America.Our police are alot better than most.

            • 1 vote
            #2.18 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:05 AM EST

            The standard for use of force is only as much force as is necessary to gain control of the situation. That means if you can control the situation with verbal orders, then that is how much force you can use and no more. If physical restraint is needed, you can use just as much physical force as is necessary to gain compliance and render the situation safe - you can't keep applying force just because someone continues the squirm around on the ground or call you names. There IS such a thing as excessive force even in situations which require physical response and intervention. If there weren't, then police could just shoot anyone who tried to pull away from them.

            • 1 vote
            #2.19 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:11 AM EST

            Frank, I read and understood what you said, but, it may be just me, because I've never understood the mentality of how it works changing the attitude of a problem child, by being an azzhat like he was? So instead of fixing the problem, they now have two azzhats to deal with.

              #2.20 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:21 AM EST
              Comment author avatarJaime Wittvia Facebook

              OK, the problem, as I see it, is a lot bigger than this kid and this cop. THey are both a symptom of a much bigger problem. THe fact is, we have raised up a generation of teens who genuinely believe that rules don't matter (which is why the number of "kids" with juvie records has increased 1200% in the last 20 years.) There is this tendency within the justice system to plea-bargain everything... I actually know a former drug dealer who was arrested for crimes which should have gotten him a combined total of 30 years in prison... he spent a total of 12 days in the county jail and is currently serving out a five year deferred sentence (the charges will be expunged at the end of his term), during this time he is attending law school. It's no wonder the police are disgruntled. THey put their lives on the line to take criminals off the streets, and then the judges let them walk. As for the idea that tresspassing is a "benign" crime... often stalking victims have to press charges for tresspassing because there is no evidence of threats or physical abuse. In fact, it is often multiple counts of tresspassing (and failures to appear) that can tip the scale for a stalking victims, and get their protection orders. THere are no victimless crimes, there are no benign crimes. People who speed, tresspass, or shoplift are criminals. Driving without insurance is a crime. Failing to pay a ticket or appear in court shows a disregard for law and order. When a mom tells a kid its ok to resist arrest (which iswhat she is doing here) she is telling her kid that rules are irrelavant and consequences are moot. No wonder he's a punk.

              • 1 vote
              #2.21 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:38 AM EST
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              Comment author avatarWallStFatCatExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

              Cops are behaving like thugs, talking trash like thugs, and some are thugs. If they want the people's respect, they must act much more classy than shown on the video. Perhaps, that's asking too much. Cops, after all, are recruited not for their brain, more for their brawn.

              • 4 votes
              Reply#3 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 5:32 AM EST

              Agreed. My desire to support law enforcement went out the window along with law enforcement's desire to "protect and serve" something other than their egos and superiority complexes.

              • 1 vote
              #3.1 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:49 AM EST

              Sure, the kid was an alter boy. Another hillbilly piece of trash. No doubt this is the first time he has heard that type of language.

              Next time he trespasses, the Texan should just put a few bullets in him.

              Let mom make an issue out of it and then the courts can release his juvenile records. Let's see what an angel this loser really turns out to be.

              • 1 vote
              #3.2 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:07 AM EST

              I'd rather have 1000 hillbillies that you call "trash" than a single piece of garbage pig under the mistaken belief that he, she, or it is above the law. Hell, I'd rather have 1000 hillbillies than a single R. Scalzo. Get lost pig-lover!

              • 2 votes
              #3.3 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:26 AM EST
              Reply

              If the kid was belly down and cuffed the officer did not have to run up and knee him in the head. That was excessive and he needs to be fired. There was no need to threaten to kill the teen, he was already cuffed. Then to come at the camera phone and huff his steroid breath at the other party while giving his name and badge number tells me this dude is a bad egg. They need to can his but and take his gun(s) before he does kill someone.

              • 6 votes
              Reply#4 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 5:34 AM EST

              The kid didn't lay down and stop fighting the first cop till the second cop was running towards them.

              • 4 votes
              #4.1 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 6:49 AM EST

              And sentence him for assault.

              • 3 votes
              #4.2 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:05 AM EST

              BS, Kennyboys. You're seeing things.

              • 5 votes
              #4.3 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:07 AM EST
              Reply

              If no one was hurt, this is a non-issue. The second cop should have to do some remedial training.

              End of story.

              • 4 votes
              Reply#5 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 5:44 AM EST

              The cop used excessive force, it is an issue. He should lose his job. If you believe that it is a non-issue for the police to physically assault a restrained person, you are part of the problem.

              End of story.

              • 11 votes
              #5.1 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 5:56 AM EST

              The question presented with what we see in this video is: What will that teen do if allowed to continue with impunity, start robbing and worse. Fear of law and punishment serves as a deterrent.

              Wait a second, I got that backwards, The question presented is what will happen if that officer is allowed to continue with impunity, he'll believe he can get away with anything-and do it- because of his badge. Fear of law and punishment serves as a deterrent.

              I see two criminals in this video. Police - like this - need to start obeying the law they are paid to uphold.

              • 5 votes
              #5.2 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 6:43 AM EST

              The cop's attitude toward the person filming at the end perfectly describes his belligerent and unprofessional mindset. He might have well just have given the camera the bird. At a minimum the cop needs remedial training.

              • 4 votes
              #5.3 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:38 AM EST

              He should be arrested for assault.

              • 6 votes
              #5.4 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:08 AM EST
              Reply

              Texas

              • 5 votes
              Reply#6 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 5:45 AM EST

              theres three things wrong with this story first it was in Texas and Texas does not control their cops- secondly the kids last name is Rodriquez and we know that Mexicans are hated in Texas and lastlymommy should butt outof it boy got himself into it let him dig his way out

                Reply#7 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 6:19 AM EST

                This really doesn't sound like anything to get riled up about. It sounds like both parties overreacted. The suspect had an arrest warrant out, resisted arrest, and said some dumb stuff to the cop. The cop said the same stuff back and was a bit rough with the kid. He shoved the kid, called him whatever the kid said to him right back, etc etc. People in stressful situations sometimes say things they'd later regret. I know cops are trained for these situations, so the cop in question should probably have to revisit appropriate police behavior in these situations... nothing more. He overreacted and let anger cloud his behavior, but he didn't actually do anything wrong, just immature.

                • 2 votes
                Reply#8 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 6:19 AM EST

                He attacked a restrained prisoner. It is a criminal act and not simply a retraining situation.

                • 6 votes
                #8.1 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:12 AM EST
                Reply

                If the officer is fired, please don't let him just walk out without getting some help!

                • 1 vote
                Reply#9 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 6:39 AM EST

                He cursed??? He actually cursed??? He did a Dick Cheney???? Oh sweet Jesus! Say it ain't so Joe! Say it ain't so!

                • 3 votes
                Reply#10 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 6:49 AM EST

                Dumbass kid, dumbass violent cop (in Texas, no less: what a shock): But the cop is paid to act like an adult, like a professional, like a person who is in rather than out of control. We all know he won't get fired -- but he should.

                • 7 votes
                Reply#11 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:00 AM EST

                Depending on how you define corruption, almost every law enforcement office in this country is corrupt. Practically every officer will wink at a violation by a fellow officer, friend, family member or one of their groupies that hang around. An average citizen would not be afforded this same privilege. Beyond this the corruption gets even worse with law enforcement having a long history of misdeeds and the public being unaware of most of it.

                • 1 vote
                Reply#12 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:02 AM EST

                For all you whiners out there----how about you try and talk to the woman's son the next time you are being mugged / assaulted / ripped off etc. by either him or someone similar----and please do not call the police you so vehemently rail against as that would be against their rights -----or maybe better yet, why don't you go into law enforcement and try to be part of the solution ---oh, I forgot, that would mean you would have to actually do something to help those who try to keep the streets safe so people like you can complain-------

                • 7 votes
                Reply#13 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:21 AM EST

                Mike - stop overreacting. You will note that no one is commenting negatively about the officer who had the kid handcuffed on the ground. If you resist arrest, the police have the absolute authority to subdue you and place you under arrest, using force necessary to overcome your resistance. That does not include getting kicked in the head AFTER you are controlled. Also, his warrant was for tresspassing, why do you assume that he is a violent criminal?

                • 4 votes
                #13.1 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:59 AM EST

                The punk looked like he was still resisting to me - right up until the 2nd officer applied a bit of pressure to his head... looks like a good arrest to me.

                The trailer trash mother should be thankful the cops didn't shoot the punk for resisting arrest.

                • 4 votes
                #13.2 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:12 AM EST

                The trailer trash mother should be thankful the cops didn't shoot the punk for resisting arrest

                Way to invalidate an already very weak viewpoint. You a cop?

                Mike,

                Thanks for serving, you're probably a Private Contractor now, and we hope you get some help with that PTSD. Come Home in Peace, not pieces. Do not lose sight of things while over there.

                • 1 vote
                #13.3 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:37 AM EST

                It was a simple trespassing warrant. Nothing as violent as the second cop's attack upon a restrained prisoner. Abu Graib, anyone?

                • 3 votes
                #13.4 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:14 AM EST

                lessThan99%

                Some people will see anything that suits their unsupported belief. He was down and restrained. The second officer is guilty of assault.

                • 4 votes
                #13.5 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:16 AM EST

                I'd like to point out that being on the ground is not the same thing as being subdued. I think the second cop was out of line and an @!$%#, but I've been in situations like the first cop. People are still dangerous even on the ground.

                • 2 votes
                #13.6 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:51 AM EST

                mike in iraq Trust me I wil not call the police is something happens. I learned that lesson well when someone broke into my home and tried to assault me. Dealing with the theif was way less trouble than dealing with the twisted morons called cops that showed up to "help" me.

                • 3 votes
                #13.7 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:19 AM EST

                @Mike, "please do not call the police" is good advice in general. People are under the mistaken impression that the police are there to help, but their job is actually to gather evidence and arrest suspected lawbreakers, to assist the prosecutor. Whether you are a perpetrator or a victim is not always obvious to the officers arriving at the scene. When you call the police to respond to an incident, you need to prepare yourself for a police encounter -- one that may or may not go the way you expected.

                • 1 vote
                #13.8 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:23 AM EST

                Do you even have a phone in your trailer???

                  #13.9 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:09 AM EST
                  Reply

                  There are rogue cops in every department, and a good professional law enforcement organization will weed them out. But this is Texas, after all. They have a disrespectful and violent culture in which authoritarianism is exaulted and it is considered okay to bully somebody as long as you represent "good." These are the same people who put a pervert who beat his daughter with a belt while screaming curses back on the bench. So I doubt that anything will happen to this cop for attacking a kid who was already restrained and couldn't fight back, even though a cop who jumps somebody and then screams into the camera doesn't have a grip on his professional responsibilities and shouldn't remain on the force.

                  • 1 vote
                  Reply#14 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:31 AM EST

                  Pattie, having lived in both Texas and Maryland for several years I can tell you that nothing you say about Texas is true to any greater extent than it is an Maryland.

                  • 4 votes
                  #14.1 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:01 AM EST
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                  fundfeeDeleted

                  The reason cops don't get respect is because when some punk like this acts up they all get behind him and support him. They are all guilty.

                  • 3 votes
                  Reply#16 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:37 AM EST

                  .

                    #16.1 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:02 AM EST
                    Reply

                    Sounds like a typical Texas pig. Ten gallon hats covering 1 oz brains. No sympathy here.

                    • 1 vote
                    Reply#17 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:57 AM EST

                    Sad part about this, there are cops out there that flat don't "GIVE A $HIT". Sure the kid had issues, but that in no way give this cop the right to follow suit. Supposedly they are trained to handle things better than this. Bad cop no donut......

                    • 2 votes
                    #17.1 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:53 AM EST

                    INDIGO

                    There are lots of those there and everywhere without the hat some place., It is hard to believe we live in a country who preaches FREEDOM to other countries by using weapons of all type to get them to listen, when we need to polish our own mirrors first!

                    • 1 vote
                    #17.2 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:21 AM EST

                    To quote John Doe: "Wanting people to listen, you can't just tap them on the shoulder anymore. You have to hit them with a sledgehammer, and then you'll notice you've got their strict attention."

                    • 1 vote
                    #17.3 - Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:17 AM EST
                    Reply

                    Based on the information, it sounds like he was just another gang banger who got arrested.

                    • 7 votes
                    Reply#18 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:04 AM EST

                    he trespassed not bludgeoned someone to death.

                    • 1 vote
                    #18.1 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:24 AM EST
                      #18.2 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:30 PM EST
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                      Very interesting cut of the video... did you see the previous 5 minutes of the fight where the punk resisted arrest and tired out the officer on top?

                      Looks to me like his backup came running in and applied just the right pressure to the punk to stop resisting arrest. And in the process the 2nd officer helped the 1st officer. If the 2nd one doesn't show up and put a stop to the resisting arrest the punk might have gotten free and killed the first cop.

                      Stupid gang-banger and his white trash mother are lucky the kid didn't get a bullet between the eyes for resisting arrest.

                      Complaint? Yes - I will file a complaint that they didn't shoot the punk. Now we have to pay for him in jail.

                      The less than mother of the year should crawl back into her trailer and shut her welfare taking mouth up.

                      • 5 votes
                      Reply#19 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:08 AM EST

                      you've got to be the professional '' at all times '' , that they've hired you to be. no matter how rude these kids can be at times , '' they are kids ''. i know how some of these officers can let their pride get the best of them. please don't get me wrong , i've been working the parish and city jail for almost 20 years. and i am aware of the dangers officers face. but we've got to keep in mind , '' we are dealing with human beings '' , not animals , on the most part. i really do appreciate you officers who may be reading this post. and i do know it gets rough out there. GOD BLESS and protect you and yours , as you fight to do the same for others !!! you guys know your areas , and you know when it is time to apply pressure.

                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#20 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:13 AM EST

                      Kid resisted arrest, beat him down, mother did lousy job teaching son about authority. In fact beat her too, she needs a beating! Give the cop a raise, and all expense paid trip to Disney Land! Nice job keptin!

                      • 5 votes
                      Reply#21 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:17 AM EST

                      All three of them have problems, the kid, the cop and the mother. Send them all to jail. I work with law enforcement and they're some of the best people you'd ever want to know. But this guy has a problem.

                        Reply#22 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:28 AM EST

                        Yup, just anothor one of those rare, atypical bad cops we see on an ever-increasing frequency; one who was also dumb enough to be filmed. I'm guessing out of the cops who aren't fat, old, lazy and burnt out, this younger power tripper represents about 70%+ of all dime-a-dozen cops in the country. It should be illegal for someone with no discipline, whatsoever (and even fewer brains) to be high on a power trip in public. It's really ugly as we all see on a near-weekly basis. Maybe if they whould simply make cameras illegal I wouldn't have to view this ugliness...

                          Reply#23 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:31 AM EST

                          From from I saw he got exactly what he deserved Good job officer Arnold. Moms complaint about cursing hahaha... bet her little angel uses the "f" 20 times a day if not more. Get over it.

                          • 3 votes
                          Reply#24 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:40 AM EST

                          http://youtu.be/LJV2BsM12sY

                          You did not watch enough then.

                            #24.1 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:27 PM EST
                            Reply

                            The cursing teen gets embarassed and offended by a cursing cop.... Hmmmm..... cry a river you little brat! If your mom beat your a$$ more, maybe you wouldn't act like a little sh*t!

                            • 2 votes
                            Reply#25 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:01 AM EST

                            Cursing was not the principal issue from this article. Please reread, and view the video.

                            Peace

                              #25.1 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:21 AM EST

                              I now know why this country is in the shape that it is in. Comments such as "oh my they have a criminal in handcuffs on the cold ground" or "Cops are thugs with badges", this just tells me how liberal and way left of center this country has become. First, this kid committed a crime and mommy protects him by not making this "kid" go turn himself in, I mean obviously they knew of his outstanding warrant. All of you here are want cops there to protect you but speak out against abuse when they apply what they have been trained to do! Imagine if we applied this to our military, forcing Marines and soldiers to ask politely for the enemy to surrender, this is absolutely crazy! I am no fan of law enforcement, and yeah I do think they have power trips but if you have a soft police force tyring to deal with the scum of society what do you have? Men and women at the mercy of criminals.

                                #25.2 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 3:53 PM EST

                                http://youtu.be/LJV2BsM12sY

                                The entire incident. Watch and repeat your statement. It will sound even less educated or relevant.

                                If the BOLO was for an armed robber, i would not have such an averse conclusion drawn. Of this incident and the second cop. You do notice not one complaint on the first officer's choke hold capture and handling of his takedown. By the book and professional.

                                Selective bitching sounds like YOUR problem.

                                  #25.3 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:24 PM EST
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                                  How does one "blink wrong"?? Stupid cop.

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                                  Reply#26 - Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:01 AM EST
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