PORTLAND, Ore. - A 7-year-old girl suffering from leukemia has become one of Oregon's youngest medical marijuana patients.
Mykayla Comstock's mother credits the drug with helping put the cancer into remission.
But her father, worried about the effects of the drug on her brain development, alerted child welfare officials to the treatment.
Mykayla was diagnosed with leukemia last spring and the marijuana eases the effects of chemotherapy, according to her mother. The girl takes a gram of cannabis oil daily, The Oregonian reported.
"First you get hungry," Mykayla told the paper. "Then you get really funny, and then you get tired."
Her mother, Erin Purchase, 25, administers Mykayla's cannabis with the help of her boyfriend.
Mykayla's mother credits the drug for the leukemia's remission.
"As a mother, I am going to try anything before she can potentially fall on the other side," said Erin Purchase, 25, who administers Mykayla's cannabis together with her boyfriend.
Mykayla's father, who is divorced from the girl's mother and lives in North Dakota, contacted child welfare officials, police and her oncologist.
Jesse Comstock said his concerns were prompted by a visit with Mykayla in August.
"She was stoned out of her mind," said Comstock, 26. "All she wanted to do was lay on the bed and play video games."
Comstock pays child support to Purchase and covers Mykayla's health insurance, the paper reported.
Oregon law requires no monitoring of a child's medical marijuana use by a pediatrician.
Three states will decide on Tuesday whether to take the unprecedented step of legalizing marijuana. NBC's Pete Williams reports.
Comstock, who says he used pot in the past, told the paper that he doesn't object to people over 16 using medical marijuana. But he worries about his daughter's well-being and the potential for addiction.
"She's not terminally ill," Comstock said. "She is going to get over this, and with all this pot, they are going to hinder her brain growth.
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Purchase believes marijuana heals, and also credits the drug for curing her stepfather's skin cancer. She herself is an Oregon medical marijuana patient.
"She's like she was before," she said of Mykayla. "She's a normal kid."
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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It is sad that there are people out there that would rather see her (and others) suffer more than they already have to... good for Oregon!
And dad knows this will do brain damage exactly how? Read it on the Internet? Now that's a reliable medical fact source for sure.
Myself, I'll go with what the doctors prescribed.
What so strange these days for a kid to play video games and no converse with a man (called her father) who lives many, many miles away and probably hasn't seen her for years.
The exact same way the mother knows it cures cancer.
Capn-1
I agree the mother has misspoken also.
If weed cured cancer then why would we need chemo & radiation? Just shows there is plenty that the general public does not know about the disease.
The MJ is only used to help cancer patients tolerate the side effects of the treatment.
The child can tell you. If she feels better than it's helping. If it's not helping her feel better stop the treatment. Her brain will be fine and if she has A.D.D. she doesn't anymore. The medicine is helpful in many ways but I don't think it has cancer healing properties as it just eases the symptoms in a 360 degree fashion. I understand the dad's concern but what he needs to help with is her suffering and making her feel better not making waves in her life.
This child has a professionaly diagnosed illness. It is leukemia, a potential killer although not always. At 7 years old she must suffer not only the disease but the crucifying effects of chemotherapy, a controlled toxic brew of chemicals where the real trick for the medical professionals is to make sure it kills the cancer before it kills the patient. There are no quick, easy or perfect remedies. But the child is in chronic pain and the best two real alternatives are narcotics and cannabis. Let the doctors and the parents decide. I for one believe the medicial marijuana treatment is the lesser of the two evils. Assuming she beats the cancer, the bigger battle afterward would be dealing with narcotic addiction. The cannabis option potentially saves her from that hellish battle.
A very serious reality check as to why marijuana should be fully legal at least for medicinal purposes. Those that resist are crucifying children like this only because they themselves are acting heartless. Pot made by God? Illegal. Powerful and 'expensive' man made chemotherapy caldron concoctions? Legal.
Weed does NOT have anything to do with curing cancer, it only has to do with dealing with the chemo side effects.
If this unfortunate child is terminally ill and in hospice, then brain development is not a priority over comfort in her remaining days. But if she has a fighting chance, then find another way to deal with the side effects other than being stoned all the time.
Quote from the American Cancer Society website:
"More recently, scientists reported that THC and other cannabinoids such as CBD (cannabidiol) slow growth and/or cause death in certain types of cancer cells growing in laboratory dishes. Some animal studies also suggest certain cannabinoids may slow growth and reduce spread of some forms of cancer. However, these substances have not been tested in humans to find out if they can lower cancer risk. There is no available scientific evidence from controlled studies in humans that cannabinoids can cure or treat cancer."
It may not be 100% scientifically proven yet, but if this were my child, and there was even a small chance that it could help her, whether by easing her symptoms and/or by slowing the cancer's growth, I'd definitely take the chance.
"She's not terminally ill," Comstock said. "
This all that needs to be said about the father. Yep having cancer is not terminally ill, so why even undergo chemo? Oh wait what's the survial rate of people who has cancer and does not treat it?
Hey Gary in Chicago, Watch RUN FROM THE CURE and then come back with your comments.
There is proof it is a cure, the medical establishment refuses to embrace it because they will lose a lot of money.
If it would ease the suffering of my child, I wouldn't care what it was!!!
So, he would rather she suffer from chemo than to use medical marijuana? I hope her father gets cancer and see how well he deals with it. There's no indication that use of medical marijuana is going to hinder her brain growth any way. I'd rather my child use medial marijuana than pharmaceutical drugs.
The narcotics this little girl takes are addictive. Pot is not. I've smoked enough of it myself to know and have known many, many people who also smoked and not one of them had a problem with addictive reactions. They have the availability to give this girl some extra help to help keep her weight up and aid in her pain without having her actually 'smoke' a joint, so why not?
Yes, she's a little young to be getting stoned, but she has cancer and I'm sure is going thru some hell from the chemo. Her father admitted to smoking himself in the past, so what's up his butt? He's probably just pissed at the ex-wife because she's also on med mj too. (and he probably can't get it).
I feel for this little girl, but I think the mj she takes is infinitely better than any narcotics she's prescribed, being so young and all. We all know that pot kills brain cells, but narcotics can and does do much worse to a body when taken consistently. I know this from experience being on them myself for well over 10 years, and they're ruining me. Besides the obvious fact that my body is addicted, they're killing me inside out, ruining my teeth, they prevent me from eating because all I want to do is sleep, and much, much more.
I will be going to a doc outside the VA (I am a veteran injured in the line of duty) to get a script for mj just as soon as I see my VA doctor first to discuss it. I hope they allow this girl to continue taking the THC drops as long as she needs it. It's obvious to everyone who read the whole article how it's helping. (Minus the fact the mother thinks it cured her cancer - wouldn't that be handy?!).
Where in the article does it say the mother knows it cures cancer?
I remember a conversation on Wisconsin Public Radio and some whack job Wisconsin politician saying "we dont smoke our medicine in this country."
My question, why not?
Maybe her dad should be more worried about her surviving cancer then the effects of pot? I am pretty sure he wouldnt be acting like this if doctors were pumping his kid full of pills, which have been proven to hurt people way more then marijuana.
Mykayla,
First you get the munchies. Good luck, Sweetheart!
Dad agrees with poisoning her system with radiation therapy but objects to marinol to help the child deal with the side effects of the radiation therapy.
Gary_Chicago
It does more then just take the edge off of chemo, my cousin had cancer and smoking pot actually helped her feel better even outside of the chemo, as for the stoned all the time comment, makes me wonder how much time you sit in a bar each week? Most drinkers seem to think that drinking and smoking pot are not even in the same zip code, which they are correct in way, alcohol is the most destructive drug in this country by far.
trust me you spaghetti slurping cretin ... its 180
I can't believe the number of people villifying the father. At least he's trying to do what is best for his daughter, instead of being a totally absentee, deadbeat dad.
I really need more information on how the mother is administering it to judge.
If it is only being given after a chemo treatment on an "as needed basis" to fight nausea and help her feel better, I'm all for it. All drugs have possible adverse side effects, THC (marijuana) included. It makes sense to take a drug only when the benefits exceed the risk.
I suspect, although I concede it's not clearly stated, that the child is being given the Marijuana on a more regular basis. The mother's statement that she believes marijuana is "healing" and "cures cancer" leads me to believe that the drug is being given as a therapy unto itself, rather than only as an adjunct to lessen the symptoms of conventional therapies. If that is the case, then I agree with the father that it may be doing harm to the child's mental development.
7 is a bit young to be getting stoned IMO. I'm all for legalizing, and the medicinal properties are great when applied judiciously. But the father makes a good point that this child is not terminal and it appears possible that mom and step-dad are stoners using the medical marijuana laws to get high legally. (Seems very odd that all three members of this family have a MM script, just saying) It wouldn't be outside of the realm of possibility that her medical marijuana using mother and step father are getting the girl stoned because it makes life easier for them caring for her.
I guess my opinion is that I don't consider an investigation to be unreasonable. If the drops are being used as directed by the child's doctor, then the investigation will back the mother up. If not, then the father was right to question his child's medication. At any rate, that's his right as a father.
BTW - Not sure why everyone always assumes that the dad in a split up family is the one who made the choice to leave. I've known several moms who took the kid and walked out on perfectly good men, good dads, simply because they were bored with their marriage. It's not the same as it was 20-30 years ago where single moms were single because their husband went out for a pack of smokes and never came back.
As a nurse I can tell you when it comes to chemo, weed works. I've given marinol which is THC in oral form, it dosen't work, don't know if they still make it. Haven't seen a script for it in 25 yrs. I've seen pts puking who then go out to the parking lot with a family member and come back wanting 2 trays of food. I don't know about pain control, but it does work as an anti-emetic (anti-nausea) and increases hunger.
Desperate dieases require despeperate mesaure. Our daughter has multiple heart defects. Twice I've shes had to come home on methadone because she had high doses of morphine while they kept her chest open for 10 days and she suffered from withdrawl. I'm for anything that decreases suffering. Is the little girl stoned, probably yes. Is her suffering decreased, probably yes. Would he feel the same if she was snowed on morphine via IV, probably no.
Two universities have, in independent studies, found that something that only is extracted from very potent cannabis plants INHIBITS the growth of brain cancer (Univ of Seville Spain) and reduces the spread of cancer cells in agar-plate studies (which are very preliminary), from Univ of North carolina).
The big pharma companies have resisted researching any drug people can grow in a flower box because the did not think they would make as much money, so cancer research drags slowly while the big pharam research cures for limp men and restless legs.
Herb healing is very ancient and very real, and despite the lies of the traditional medicine industry and drug companies, many ailments can be successfully treated and even cured through Naturopathy and Holistic diagnosis.
I just noticed something else in the article after a careful re-reading. The girl is in remission. Doesn't that mean that she is no longer receiving chemo and radiation therapies? Just wondering......
a very sick 7 year old, and the MJ oil helps her cope with illness; what the heck is wrong with that?
This is some sort of story and viewing the comments are insanity. The bottom line is the little girl says she eats, giggles and falls asleep. Anyone ever thought of working with holistic treatment and accupuncture. It's safe, non-addictive and it really does help. Folks in China, the Philipines, Nigeria, the Middle East don't indulge in the types of foods or health remedies we as Americans do. I myself have learned and live holistic living and the use of accupucture. Also we have to consider the lifestyles of child-bearing teens and adults do and have been medically proven that children are born with physical and mental illnesses and some even life threatening as this 7 year-old girl that uses weed for medicinal purposes. My heart goes out to this little girl. My niece was 3 1/2 when she died in 2011 she spent a majority of her life in the hospital all I can say is Lucille Packard Children's Hospital is #1 in my family's book. To the mother and father of this little girl you 2 must come together on behalf of your child, get her to St Jude's Children's Hospital or Lucille Packard Children's Hospital to get her the number one care she deserves. When this child transition into the next life which will be Heaven you will miss her every single moment of your life. When my niece died my nephew her brother was 5 at the time and he's coping with her loss and he's in counseling. So mamma and daddy not the boyfriend lay down your indifferences and work together to help you little girl. As for all you weed heads and supporters right on. Merry Christmas
Xina the Awesome - right on girl, you have the only cogent post in this entire thread. All the back an forth about MJ addiction and or if it potentially is a cure is pointless. This article does not go far enough into detail to get a really clear picture of what is going on.
I too feel that there is something a bit odd with the fact that both the mother and step father are also receiving MM.
The thing that concerns me is the fact that we have become such a drug dependant society. Few people here, I'm sure, do not know that the drug prescribed for ADHD, Ritalin, essentially is a medical form of cocaine and there is relatively no concern about that as there is about some canabis oil.
I have mixed feelings about the use of Pot. It would seem to me that legalization via strick pharmasuetical standards would be the way to go. It is my underestanding that many of the unnecessary effects/chemicals in "pot smoking", i.e. the tar, carbon monoxide et al could be elliminated to provide a safe medicinal product.
I imagine that a kid who had had leukemia (which can cause severe fatigue) and been through a round of chemo (which also causes severe fatigue, if not permanent damage) might want to lie around in bed and play video games even if all she was given for her pain and nausea were Tic-tacs. Maybe Daddy expected her to run outside and start doing handsprings when she saw him actually show up for a visit?
Yes, at first it sounds shocking for "a 7-year-old to use marijuana" - but when I think about it rationally, marijuana is almost infinitely less toxic than opioid drugs, which severely ill 7-year-olds undergoing extreme medical treatments may be put on and which we wouldn't suggest they should be deprived of, to say nothing of vincristine. Injecting a deadly poison into the veins of a 7-year-old? Horrors! What we really mean is that it's shocking to see a 7-year-old kid getting cancer and having to be put through this wringer. Since she is in that position, by all means let her use any treatment that limits her suffering.
I agree that marijuana should be administered to children only under strict medical supervision.
And apparently this is just such a case.
When I was a kid, just about every prescription cough syrup (and many over the counter brands) contained a good belt of ethyl alcohol. It was like giving your kid a quarter-shot of vodka. Nobody so much as blinked.
But marijuana is still suffering from the "hippie drug" stigma. Folks, give it a break.
I'm a Republican, and if I can see the hypocrisy in keeping cannabis illegal while far more dangerous substances can be bought at the corner store, so can most folks.
I think most would agree that IF marijuana was legalized, it should be a controlled substance in much the same way as alcohol and nicotine are now. A seven year-old should still be under strict scrutiny in taking it.
And in this case, I think if the substance eases a child's pain and is condoned by medical professionals, politics should stay out of it.
A politician's irrational fear of an effective drug treatment shouldn't affect those who need it.
Actually, marijuana has been shown to inhibit cancer growth.
@ Xina
She may still be receiving maintenance therapy - infrequent chemotherapy treatments spaced out over weeks or months to ensure the remission stays. Remission can mean a couple different things. The initial use of the term simply means that the cancer is no longer actively growing. Cancer cells may still remain, but they have been (for the moment) neutralized. Once said cancer cells are cleared out and no more new ones are popping up, the patient is considered "cured", although because cancer CAN always come back, the doctors refer to that as full remission. My guess is that, because she is still on medication, she is in the former state.
Scoobie "Doobie" do .
@James Andre,
Marijuana has show to kill brain cells, slow motor functions, and can cause other side effect similar to smoking cigs. There was a Harvard Research that I read on the effect of Marijuana.
There are none so blind as those that will not see.-Ancient Proverb
For your edification:
Anti-proliferative and Apoptotic Effects of Anandamide in Human Prostatic Cancer Cell Lines:
Implication of Epidermal Growth Factor Receptor Down-regulation and Cerimide Production.
Source: U.S. National Library of Medicine-National Institute of Health
Cannabinoids Induce Apoptosis of Pancreatic Tumor Cells via Endoplasmic Reticulum Stress-Related
Genes.
Source: Cancer Research
Cannabinoids Inhibit Cellular Respiration of Human Oral Cancer Cells
Source: U.S. National Library of Medicine-National Institutes of Health
Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol-induced Apoptosis in Jurkat Leukemia T-cells is Regulated by
Translocation of Bad to Mitochondria.
Source: U.S. National Library of Medicine-National Institutes of Health
Cannabinoids as Potential New Therapy for the Treatment of Gliomas
Source: Expert Review of Neurotheraputics
Cannabinoid Receptor-Mediated Apoptosis Induced by R(+)-Methanandamide and Win55,212-2
is Associated with Ceramide Accumulation and p38 Activation in Mantle Cell Lymphoma.
Source: Molecular Pharmacology
Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol Inhibits Epithelial Growth Factor-Induced Lung Cancer Cell Migration
in vitro as Well as Its Growth and Metastasis in vivo.
Source: Oncogene
Inhibition of Skin Tumor Growth and Angiogenesis in vivo by Activation of Cannabinoid Receptors.
Source: The Journal of Clinical Investigation
Cannabinoids Reduce ErbB2-driven Breast Cancer Progression Through Akt Inhibition
Source: Molecular Cancer
The Dual Effects of Delta(9)-Tetrahydrocannabinol on Cholangiocarcinoma Cells: Anti-invasion Activity
at Low Concentration and Apoptosis Induction at High Concentration.
Source: U.S. National Library of Medicine-National Institutes of Health.
And the kicker...
U.S. Patent 6,630,507-Cannabinoids as Anti-oxidants and Neuro-protectants
Owned by the United States Government.
The jury is in my friends, Cannabis is medicine...and so much more.
Legalize, don't ostracize!
Gil, learn to read... it states with visit in August.
too many people condoning this. She is SEVEN. Waay to young for this. People need to quit being a bunch of wusses and man up. People are soft and our nation will fall because of it. Sad country to live in. The mom is on it why? I don't have a problem with the concept of medical marijuana, i just don't like the people claiming they need it when they really don't. This mom is a dead beat who likes to get high with her dead beat bf and daughter. she is making her daughter become dead beat. It is proven how pot affects your memory and brain, so yes, the dad has absolute plausible concerns here.
youdon'tknowjack,
You're right. I don't know Jack. And with respect, unless you're a pediatrician, neither do you.
Alcohol probably shouldn't be administered to a seven year-old either, and we've been doing that for years in the form of prescription and over-the-counter cough syrups.
I'll leave it to those who graduated medical school to determine what this seven year-old should and shouldn't take.
I think others should, too.
People just want to get stoned and don't give a damn about what the drugs are doing to their brains. I agree with the father. she doesn't need the drug and it WILL cause brain damage over time. But she probably wouldn't have amounted to much in her lifetime anyway when she hit high school and got stoned everyday then.
Oh JSMH, please tell us of your vast medical knowledge. " drug prescribed for ADHD, Ritalin, essentially is a medical form of cocaine" really? The medical form of cocaine is called cocaine, WOW huh. It used in eye drops. It's the best ocular numbing agent there is. If you've ever had an eye pressure test done with a meter versus the blast of air, than you've probably have had them. If you ever scratch your eye you will be very grateful for these drops.
Well Seymour, then I hope her father isn't stopping off at the bar after work EVER because the alcohol he drinks is killing his brain cells. Marijuana should be legalized and controlled/taxed in the same way alcohol is.
disabled vet,
MJ does not kill brain cells. Do internet searches and look at various sources. The one study that people refer to for the death of braion cells was discredited by the methodology (if I remember correctly, the monkeys were deprived of oxygen for extended periods of time, and extended deprivation of oxygen kills brain cells), and recent ones show better results.
Zina the Awesome--thank you for reminding us that the leukemia is in REMISSION. That is significant! We also need to remember that just because someone is in remission, doesn't mean it can not come back. It seems to me that if the mother of the child was trying to prevent it from coming back, she could administer the mj oil only at night right before bed, and only for a limited time--like for one year. I can understand that people want desperately for their child to survive, and not relapse. There is something else here, however, as many have pointed out. Both the mother and her bf get MM. Whether or not they actually have legitimate medical reasons for it, we do not know from this article. There are plenty out there who get MM but do not have legitimate medical need--and they make it all the more hard for those who do have legitimate need. One thing I do know--denial and rationalization are very rampant among those who abuse drugs. If the little girl is stoned all the time, I would suspect that the mom and bf are stoners and are doing damage to the little girl. If the little girl is only getting it at night as prophylactic for a limited time, and if the doctor approves, then that is an entirely different story.
Good Grief
2057059,
The most potent argument against the use of marijuana to treat medical
disorders is that marijuana may cause the acceleration or aggravation of the
very disorders it is being used to treat.
Smoking marijuana regularly (a joint a day) can damage the cells in the
bronchial passages which protect the body against inhaled microorganisms and
decrease the ability of the immune cells in the lungs to fight off fungi,
bacteria, and tumor cells. For patients with already weakened immune systems,
this means an increase in the possibility of dangerous pulmonary infections,
including pneumonia, which often proves fatal in AIDS patients.
Studies further suggest that marijuana is a general "immunosuppressant" whose
degenerative influence extends beyond the respiratory system. Regular smoking
has been shown to materially affect the overall ability of the smoker�s body to
defend itself against infection by weakening various natural immune mechanisms,
including macrophages (a.k.a. "killer cells") and the all-important T-cells.
Obviously, this suggests the conclusion, which is well-supported by scientific
studies, that the use of marijuana as a medical therapy can and does have a very
serious negative effect on patients with pre-existing immune deficits resulting
from AIDS, organ transplantation, or cancer chemotherapy, the very conditions
for which marijuana has most often been touted and suggested as a treatment.
It has also been shown that marijuana use can accelerate the progression of HIV
to full-blown AIDS and increase the occurrence of infections and Kaposi�s
sarcoma. In addition, patients with weak immune systems will be even less able
to defend themselves against the various respiratory cancers and conditions to
which consistent marijuana use has been linked
This is from a Harvard Study on the Medical dangers of Marijuana.
People are stupid, age don't mean a dam thing. When some one is sick , depending on the disease process, they should be receiving proper medical care. This includes opiates, and such for pain management, which makes something as trivial as marijuana a mute subject.
For the record we have been giving this to our patients for years. Its called Marinol and cancer patients get it all the time.
To all the narrow minded folks out there...SHE IS NOT SMOKING IT! She is ingesting cannabis oil.
Most of you folks need to look beyond the government BS propaganda.
I'll give you an example of what propaganda will do... I'm Wicca, a witch. How many of you out there instantly thought I worship the devil? Well, how can I worship something I don't believe in? Christian propaganda...same difference.
SHAKING HEAD -
you should be shaking your head.... Retalin is a form of amphetamine, NOT cocaine. Where do you get your facts? The street corner?
DAWGFAN: What year was that study completed?
Sam Adams: "Where in the article does it say the mother knows it cures cancer?"
Try Google search, it's this neat thing that lets you search the internet for information.
https://www.google.com/search?q=canibus+oil+cures+cancer&aq=f&oq=canibus+oil+cures+cancer&aqs=chrome.0.57j0l3.5232&sugexp=chrome,mod=5&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#hl=en&tbo=d&spell=1&q=cannabis+oil+cures+cancer&sa=X&ei=i7-zULnBMor49QSYu4HYBQ&ved=0CC4QvwUoAA&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=87ce17bb4aae0186&bpcl=38897761&biw=1280&bih=909
Here, I even searched it for you. The oil has been know to help with cancer treatment/cure for many years.
Okeeboy... "only used to help cancer patients tolerate the side effects of the treatment."
Precisely. My wife, who turned 71 this past October, just finished a year of chemo treatments for cancer and I don't mind telling anyone who will listen (open minds only, please) that marijuana has been a god-send as far as dealing with the side effects. Nourishment is also important and Cannabis will give one the "munchies" where there was no appetite at all.
Capn-1... Does your arse squeek when you walk? Here's a little something to consider:
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance. That principle is contempt prior to investigation." Herbert Spencer
Some might feel she is too young for pot. I say she is also too young for cancer, and she should be administered enough to reduce the effects of any chemo or radiation treatment, just like an adult.
Sometimes you don't need "experts" to know better. I used to smoke in high school, and remember what it did to me... I also have known and still know quite a few smokers and know for a fact, how they are affected. You may not get addicted to the "drug", but you can easily get addicted to the feeling. I am amazed people think a 7 year old should intake a drug, regardless of the situation. The child doesn't know better and what it is doing to her will be irreversible if she maintains. And the fact people are totally blind to the fact she only does it because mommy and boyfriend want to get high, f%%%% ridiculous. Might as well let her get drunk while she is at it.
My sister was dying from starvation because of chemo treatments until she began taking medical marijuana which allowed her to eat without getting sick and because of that she is now clear of cancer because she was able to be strong enough to fight for her life. Before she started she was so weak she couldnt walk.
Just curious Dawgfan. When was this study done and more importantly, WHO PAID FOR IT?
Seems the Harvard study you are so proud of flies straight in the face of every independant study done.
search harvard and thc marijauna
The child has Leukemia and is taking chemo the but Dad insists, she isn't going to die..... I have to ask, did the doctors guarantee this? Did they guarantee she will suffer no problems from the chemo as well? If that were my child I would do anything to help her get through this, with the least amount of suffering, NOT try to cause problems!!
Ross,
This is a fact of life for all medications. There are pre-existing diseases for which you shouldn't take a medicine and there are drug interactions that can cause serious harm to your body. If marijuana is to be treated as a medicine, these are serious considerations that must be taken into account. The treatment shouldn't do more harm than the disease.
Many folk don't objectively evaluate data when they have an emotional attachment. What is your emotional attachment to marijuana? Do you want to see it legalized for recreational use? If so, advocate for that. Don't push untested medicine onto a vulnerable group of people who will do anything to not be in pain.
dawg,
Nice copy and paste job (found your site), but my post was referring only to the false accusation that MJ kills brain cells, which MJ does not.
I'm not sure the validity of the site you are posting from, but why didn't you copy and paste from the rest of the info there that admits more research is needed, and it is only looking at smoking (the girl in this article isn't smoking it)? Here you go:
"I should also add that in making these observations, I have concentrated on the risks of smoking natural marijuana, since it is the most effective method of ingesting its active cannabinoids."
http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/evidence99/marijuana/Health_1.html
and here's a FEW links to more studies.
http://www.bing.com/search?q=harvard+marijuana+study&form=IE8SRC&src=IE-SearchBox
Pros seem to outweigh the cons per DOCTORS that are more versed on the subjects than you or I. To be fair, you have to admit, most legal drugs have severe known side effects that make the potential concerns for MJ pale in comparison.
I never read anywhere in the story that the mother said that the pot cured her cancer. She said it helps with the side effects of the chemo.
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White Judge,
Mykayla's mother credits the drug for the leukemia's remission.
Purchase believes marijuana heals, and also credits the drug for curing her stepfather's skin cancer.
1. The mother and her boyfriend are administering a gram a day to this child. that sounds like maintenance and not treatment of a specific issue.
2. if it is being used to treat nausea then it should be administered just prior to a meal and not in such a dose that it causes her to become overly sleepy. dosing should be slowly titred up to a level where she can eat and yet still function normally.
3. if she is in remission and on preventative chemo, she should be under the care of her cancer doctor ( oncologist who the father also contacted).
4. mom is on mm, so she knows how to get it and there are many doctor's in oregon who will prescribe it for whatever reason fits the requirements. if this child is not being followed by her oncologist or her pediatrician I would also express concern.
5. the father did what he felt was right for his daughter, which was report it so that the people who are trained ( ie medical professionals, law enforcement professionals and children's services) could evaluate the situation. It is really hard to be a parent at a distance especially if one parent decides for whatever reason to not communicate. he has been to see his daughter, he obviously cares about her well being...
6. pot is not physically addicting it can become mentally addicting and this child is too little to understand why she cant have her happy meds. Her lifestyle and behaviour will conform to being stoned during the time when habits are so easily formed. yes chemo can make you fatigued, but her description was not fatigue from chemo but pot sleepy after munching.
The officials will investigate and make a determination on what is best for her. if her doctors ( her doctors and not the pot doc that gives to everyone) say that this is the best course for her, then that is what it will be. but if they decide the mom is over using it. then so be it too, it does not mean pot isnt useful for chemo patient's but that for this child it is not the best course at this time.
Legalize it and crack down on people driving under the influence of anything (whether it be alcohol, mj or cell phones) with harsh penalties. This is supposed to be a free country where THE PEOPLE make decisions about their own health; not controlled by a bunch of politicians. And if more people die or live shorter lives because they abuse these substances, so be it. It should be about QUALITY of life, not QUANTITY of life.
As a cancer survivor (leukemia 3 times before I was 16, thyroid cancer 10 years later as a result of my raditaion to treat my leukemia, not to mention the osteoporosis, memory, joint, vision and numerous other problems I have to live with the rest of my life), I was lucky enough to recieve synthetic THC prior to and during my bone marrow transplant to ease the pain and nausea of having my body nearly destroyed by chemotherapy and radiation in preparation for saving my life (back then, pot in any form was frowned upon, but the use of synthetic THC was used in the Children's hospital I was treated at). Thousands of dollars of antinauseants couldn't do what a few drops of THC did and I fully support the use of medical marijuana because I know the benefits of it first hand. I do question where this father's concern truly lies, however, if he finds fault for his daughter only wanting to rest and play video games... when I was going through treatment, that was a good day for me. Bad days were sleeping most of the day and throwing up everything I ate when I was awake...
Good.
This country is progressing ever so slowly.
Indifferent
come on home girl, he said with a smile
you don't have to love me and let's get high a while
Wow, That's What's Up... interesting use of Heart lyrics lol
Progressing where? I highly doubt you have any qualifications what so ever to have any real opinion on the subject described in the article.
Stop posting garbage.
Jim Phiel,
You might want to do some research before you start sounding off. Ritalin although not the exact same chemical composition as Cocaine effects the same receptors as cocaine and taken in excess has the same damaging effects. When taken as a powder, it smells and tastes the same as cocaine as well as having the effect. Estimates are the between 30-50% of those that take Ritalin use it abusively. My concern is the same with MM. California is having serious legal problems with so called marijuana clinics dealing illiegally.
Here is a report from the University of Utah on Ritalin that you might find interesting.
http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/addiction/issues/ritalin.html
Chewtoy - I get my facts from the medical field. I am in the healthcare industry and you might want to do some research on your own. Here is a link to a report from the University of Utah.
http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/addiction/issues/ritalin.html
i was on moms side until i read;
And then "dad" says;
says allot right there. does the whole family have cancer? ......somehow i doubt that.
Because Cancer is an easy medical condition to fake.
Prokhor Zakharov
I am a cancer patient myself and your statement needs a little tweaking. It should read "Because Cancer is an easy medical condition to
fakelie about having."The disease itself is nothing you can fake. Lying about it is easy until someone wants medical proof. Then your screwed.
As a cancer survivor, Okeeboy, I'm right there with you. No one, (not even me) knew I had cancer until the CT scan showed it. You can't tell I've had it now, 5 years later. (Since I lost a kidney.)
Personally, I have mixed feelings about her taking it, even though it is taken by capsule. If she were diagnosed as terminal, I wouldn't have a problem with it at all. I believe comfort is important to the terminally ill and their families. The real problem will be if they take her off of it, I'm betting she is addicted to it by now.
willow, why don't you read some actual info on marijuana, it's not addictive. there is no withdrawal from it if you stop.
Unlike cigarettes, it's not physically addictive.
Hatr - state your source to back up your post. I've known many users, and all had difficulty ceasing their usage. Some never did kick the habit. And remember, she is a child, not an adult. It will be more difficult to give up "that good feeling."
Wow! I've tried for 50 years to get addicted to pot. Guess I gotta keep trying.
willow, you need to learn the difference between dependence and addiction. it has no side effects if you stop using it. some people can't stop because they are dependant on the drug not addicted to it.
HATR_HURTER, Where do you get your information from wikipedia or about.com? interesting.
Yeah I been trying to get addicted for 35 years, when is it going to happen? I'm tired of waiting!
Space Captain, I'm right there with you!!!!
MJ is not physically addictive.
willowbrook
First let me congratulate you on your recovery. 5 years may sound like nothing to non-cancer patients, but to those of us with it, your doing excellent. I'm 2 years out this month.
I also have to agree with some others who say MJ is not addictive. I am currently prescribed to use MJ for the side effects (yes, by a real medical team of Oncologist) and I find it extremely beneficial.
Now I'm not going to lie and say I do not enjoy the buzz that comes along with it's use, but what I really enjoy is the ability it gives me to tolerate food. I have a head & neck cancer that is inoperable so chemo and radiation was the only treatment available. Problem is the treatment left me with no saliva output and taste buds in my tongue that makes 99% of what I try to eat taste like mud. I have had to be fed through a tube inserted into my abdomen and use a syringe to push in 9 cans of Glycerna a day.
Since being placed on medical MJ, I can now take the Glycerna orally and also eat certain foods like yogart and some Ice cream. I know that sounds like nothing to a regular person, but to me its a God send.
I hope before this disease eventually takes me (statistically I have about 5-10 years after treatment) the USA gets over the BS about MJ and does whats right for patients.
Everyone have a happy holiday and live like its your last. It could be.
It's unfortunate that people can't tell the difference between mentally and physically addictive. Until other marijuana proponents admit that it is mentally addictive, we will not be able to make progress towards complete legalization.
Many things can by mentally addictive. Gambling, video games, pretending to know things on the internet based upon anecdotal evidence at best, etc. the list goes on forever.
It is not an addictive drug, I am a medical student and a cannabis supporter for many years now. The era of the "reefer madness" had put that into your heads and therefore you all think it is an addictive drug, which in fact is not a drug but more of a herb and needs to stop being viewed as a drug for that is what the FEDS want you to think!!!!!
My mother had terminal cancer and cannabis did help in many areas of her illness, it helped with her to eat, be somewhat social instead of sick and bed ridden from chemo/radiation, and it also helped provide an income for that I grew it and gave my medicine to the dispensaries. Now I have ADHD, I use cannabis also for my injury and help me to concentrate, I have done better in college on the herb than I was off of the herb, now just imagine if all those other kids with this disability and not getting the chance to use this herb just because some "guy in a political agenda" wants to keep Cannabis hostage!!!! That to me is more like Hilterism, and the Unites States is showing a lot of Hilterism today!
Hatr, I had to start using coke to kick my MJ addiction.
It is addictive. Throw all the clinical terms around that you want, but when a person can't go without something, they are addicted to it. Also, I have almost never seen a productive person who started using before their late teens early twenties. Those people are all either in jail, dead, or work at Wal Mart part time. Most smokers I know that started at any age are pretty much lazy and useless.
"Hatr, I had to start using coke to kick my MJ addiction."
I was the opposite, I started pepsi to get off coke. Just saying. Coffee and sugar can be so addictive I tell ya.
@ in the middle... I had to use cannabis to stop my pill and alcohol addiction and now just use cannabis!!!!
Hatr - I notice you've provided no link to back up your post.
Here is one among many sites that back me up:
http://www.alternet.org/story/151991/is_marijuana_addictive
But let's get back to the real point, medical marijuana usage. It is widely accepted the use of marijuana helps the terminally ill cope with the symptoms of their disease. (Which I don't have the first problem with usage in these cases.) Note when I say "terminally ill." This article has conflicting information concerning the actual state of this child's disease. Many people beat leukemia these days, and without taking medical marijuana for the side effects. I think the real problem with the article is the claims made by the Mother concerning the weed causing her child to be "in remission and having cured another family member's skin cancer." She has no real data to prove her claims, and it is not a good defense to the child's father to justify the use of marijuana. Heck the article doesn't even say if she is currently in treatment. I think more needs to be investigated in this case.
willowbrook, read a book for crying out loud. Even medical experts who are against pot say it isnt addictive, they bash it because they call it a "gateway drug" which is a crock of poopie. Just because you may be against marijuana is no reason to make ignorant comments. As for you stating that people you know were addicted is bunk as well, my guess is if they said that it was for attention. There is no side effects from quitting, no withdrawl, no sickness like with alcohol or heroin. You can look all this up for yourself, please post back here if you need help with the big words, I am sur one of us can help you sound them out.
in the middle-2260511- Uninformed much?
The problem with your statement is that there are millions upon millions of people who used MJ in their younger years, and many who still do, but you do not recognize who they are. Because of the repressive drug laws most keep their usage a closely guarded secret. I am sure you would be quite surprised at some of the people who have used since they were teens. You know, those slackers like the Drs, Lawyers, Bankers, Ministers, Scientists, etc.
Stop using what you think you know to make an argument about something you actually know nothing about. It does everyone a disservice.
in the middle-2260511
more crap, I have smoked pot on and off since I was 12, I have a good job making a 6 figure income, take care of my family and have no real issues. I also know many professional people who smoke pot and do very well in life. Maybe your addiction was in your head (mental addiction is possible) but thats on you not marijuana, if you are not strong enough to put it down, thats on you, but science has shown no withdrawl from it.
@In the middle, YOU have an addictive personality. It has nothing to do with pot. If chocolate cookies made you feel good, you would be addicted to them. Its a personality issue for you, not because pot has addictive qualities.
IN the middle, I will soon be 64 years old. I first learned of MJ in high school via a health class movie. Naturally we had to try it. I have used MJ though out my life. I started my career in a Naval Shipyard as sheetmetal mechanic and worked my way through the ranks and retired as a Naval Architectural Technician Group Leader. I received many special achivement awards, outstanding performance awards, and other misc. awards,many included cash awards. I was highly respected for my knowledge of the details of the Naval supply system. I have been married to the same women for thirty seven years, have a daughter that is a Surgical Tech, grandson that loves me very much. Respected in the community, never been arrested, have always taken care of myself and family. I also know many friends and coworkers that use MJ and are very productive. So not everyone that uses is lazy, usless or in jail. You my friend are just grossley uninformed.
in the middle: "I had to start using coke to kick my MJ addiction".
Sorry, but are you talking soda or the drug? If it's the drug coke then you're just an idiot. If it's just soda then that's just ridiculous! If starting soda to overcome an addiction was that easy, more people would be on drugs!
MJ is NOT addictive. If more people would actually look up the difference between mental and physical addiction, they'd have more of a clue of what they're talking about.
I posted above, mentioning that I've smoked pot many times in my life and never had any withdrawal problems from it. It's the mental addiction you need to worry about, which thankfully I did not have. For the last 10 + years I've been on prescribed narcotics for a back injury incurred in the military. I am not mentally addicted to them, but my body certainly is. I've been thru withdrawal before and do not advise it.
However, if my doctor decided to stop my narcotics for good, I know I would not be out looking for a dealer to set me up just so I could get my fix. Thankfully all that I take now do not get me stoned, they just help with my pain. Medical mj is another that helps as well. I have a problem keeping weight on and when I get on mj it will help me with my appetite which is essential for me as I had an accidental o.d. recently because I lost so much weight but never thought to adjust my meds to the weight loss (neither did my doctor). I really don't want to go thru that again.
Those of you who say that mj is addictive really need to read up on that issue. I've been thru withdrawal from some very strong narcotics, and there is a HUGE difference between that type of physical withdrawal than with the mental part. Quitting mj is almost like trying to quit smoking, as far as your habits were with smoking - getting over that is the hardest part of quitting. It's actually harder to quit smoking than it is with mj, as I've tried to quit smoking myself. Stopping pot was much easier & with no physical w/d symptoms, opposed to 3-4 days of hell without my regular smokes, then the mental w/d kicked in.
@ Gary, I say the same thing to you as I said to Hatr.....Show some proof other than your own experience. I knew a pot smoker who got high one night and then tried to beat the crap out of me, giggling all the while. That is out of the ordinary for pot smokers, yet it did happen. I'm not saying all pot smokers become violent when under the influence because I'm smart enough to know one instance does not correlate to all users. You on the other hand are using your own experience to group everyone else in the same group as you. Just can't do that. I had plenty more links I could have posted, but didn't. All of the sites say it is mentally addictive. Are you willing to bet a 7 year old has the mental maturity to be able to cope with that, especially when her Mother is a vocal advocate of usage? And will go so far as to state reasons that are unproven? Yea right.....
@In the middle - I'll beat the dead horse. I started smoking MJ in my teens and have continued on and off over the years. I own a successful consulting business (part-time) and have been holding a regular full-time job for years and years - my last promotion was this year and the one before that was last year. Your assertion that all smokers are unsuccessful, lazy bums is ridiculous.
I smoke when I want... and don't when I don't want to. It's that simple. I don't withdraw, I don't get crabby, and I certainly don't feel the need to do coke. Sounds like you are dealing with an addictive nature. Cowboy up and face facts; and while you're doing that... stop posting misinformation on the interwebz... it won't help you.
HEY Simmer down people.
If you know anything about addiction and it's treatment you will know that there are two types of addiction. Physiological and Psychological.
1. Physical Addiction is when a drug user suffers physical effects when deprived of the drug. This is recognized as withdrawal. An example would be when a person who has been taking opiates daily and then ceases their intake, they will experience tremors, nausea, runny nose, watering eyes, decreased appetite, diarrhea, increased urination, hyper-sensitivity to pain, weak muscular function and hot/cold flashes.
2. Psychological Addiction boils down to mental effects of ceasing drug use. A drug user does not have to be a regular user or someone who goes through physical withdrawal to experience psychological effects when deprived of a drug. The feelings associated with this addiction can range from person to person. Some common effects are intense cravings for a particular drug, hyperactivity, laziness, mild to severe depression, anxiety, fatigue, foggy thinking and constant changing of mood (feeling happy one minute, then extremely sad the next).
Marijuana is not physiologically addictive meaning that you will not develop a chemical dependency on it or experience physical withdrawal symptoms when quitting. It can be very psychologically addictive for some people. To deny psychological dependency is to completely ignore the real pain and trauma that gambling, sex, shopping, etc. addicts and their families go through. Not many studies have been done on users this young to know exactly how it will affect her. And to be fair, I think the psychological part of kicking an addiction can be tougher than the physical withdrawal sometimes. For instance when you quit smoking, you're over the withdrawal from tobacco after a few weeks. But 6 years later I still crave a cigarette now and then as situations arise that I associate fondly with smoking.
EDITED: Already posted by multiple other users. Redundant.
Willowbrook:
I'm sorry no one is providing any resources to back up their statements that MJ is not additive, and the hatred for those opposed to legalization is disgusting. but the fact is MJ is not addicting. If you have some free time and you would like to learn about the real reasons MJ is illegal, watch the documentary "The Union- the business behind getting high". it is on netfix and youtube... filled with facts... you'll change your mind.
In the middle you shouldn't base your experience as fact. I am a professional working for a fortune 500 company. I smoked pot from age 13 to 29. I have many friends that are all college grads also in the financial market all of which are functioning more than productive(actually very sucessful) citizens. So speak for your self. Yes if you let it and smoke it all the time like any substance can ruin a life. When I stopped, I just stopped. I occasionally smoke and then stop. It is not physically addicting to more than 90% of users.
I think a better question is this: why are you all focused on whether or not it's addictive, instead of whether or not it's safe? It's quite silly.
People cannot overdose and die on marijuana like they can with alcohol or water.
Yes they can. The lethal dose for THC is about 42 mg/Kg of body weight. For a 150 lb person, that's about 0.14 oz of pure THC. Any substance in large enough amounts will kill you. With water, it is about 90g/Kg body weight. So for a 150 lb person it's about 300 oz or 2.3 gallons of water in a short time.
pragmatic, it's impossible to ingest enough marijuana to overdose because the amount needed to do so is so unreasonablly high.
Marijuana Overdose - Lethal Marijuana Overdose Amount
In order for a human to consume enough marijuana to be fatal, they would have to consume nearly 40,000 times the amount of THC required to intoxicate them. In contrast, it only requires about 5 to 10 times the amount of alcohol required for intoxicate to be fatal. For example, if it requires 3 beers to intoxicate you, it only requires 15 to 30 beers to kill you. However, if it takes you 3 'hits' of marijuana to intoxicate you, it would require 120,000 hits to kill you. Thus, it is virtually impossible to die of a marijuana overdose.
at that rate you would have to take 5,000 hits an hour to overdose in a 24 hour period.
http://www.marijuanaoverdose.net/
willow-http://scienceblog.com/12116/study-says-marijuana-no-gateway-drug/
http://www.drugpolicy.org/drug-facts/10-facts-about-marijuana
But that's not what boom!reason said.
I also provided a basis for comparison with water. I say drinking 2.3 gallons of water is unreasonably high to kill you and yet it has still happened. People do stupid things, it happens. There are a lot more water drinkers than there are THC consumers, so it's no wonder we've heard about that.
Yes you only need a low dose to get intoxicated. That provides a reason enough to not continue usage in excess. I might argue with the exact numbers presented, because it depends on the level of THC present. This varies. It is still on the order of thousands of times more than the level required for intoxication. But it isn't completely impossible and it can kill you, counter to the argument being made. I'm not trying to stoke irrational fear, I'm providing real information that is always absent in these discussions.
There are more people who are psychologically addicted to watching Survivor than to marijuana. All psychologically addictive means is " people like it".
Actually, that is what boom!reason said. "Virtually impossible" is no different than impossible. Indeed, users would not be awake long enough to get that much in them, which was my point.
Please don't tell me that I need to explain similes to you.
What you do not understand about water intoxication is that the human body requires a certain salt concentration. The more water, the lower the salt concentration.
Water intoxication is a real danger to athletes like marathoners, to the point where hosts no longer give out water, instead giving out Gatorade, precisely for this reason.
When you are sweating a lot, you don't need 2.3 gallons to kill you.
Idiots aside, water intoxication is a real danger to athletes. Overdose from marijuana is not a danger to anybody, since you couldn't well stay awake long enough to smoke that much.
An estimated 50% of the US population has tried marijuana in their lifetime, and is the most commonly used illegal drug. There have been 0 deaths.
There are 80,000 deaths from alcohol poisoning per year.
http://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/fact-sheets/alcohol-use.htm
Den O'Synn - Actually you are wrong. Psychological addiction means that people crave an activity to an extent that it is no longer enjoyable to them and causes problems in their ability to lead normal productive lives.
Most people "like" to have sex. Sex addicts have compulsions to engage in sexual activity that drives them to cheat on their spouses, hire prostitutes, pick up strangers, etc. They blow off work to have a sexual encounter. They lose their jobs, their families, their health...
Lots of people enjoy gambling occasionally. Gambling addicts find themselves looking for any opportunity to place a bet. They continue to gamble after they have lost everything, taking out loans and driving their families deep into debt. They lose their jobs, their families, their homes...
Many people love to watch TV. TV addicts refuse to leave their TV. They take a TV with them anywhere they go. They call out of work or school to watch TV. When the cable goes out they have panic attacks and freak out.
Lots of people like to smoke a joint now and then with friends. A person psychologically addicted to pot will "Wake and bake" every morning. They go to work stoned. They smoke before bed. They live their lives in a purple haze of MJ. Getting high is given priority over everything else. Not everyone who smokes pot will go to this extreme, but to deny that there are any people who do means either you have an agenda for legalization and are hoping to hide this from the general public or you never have smoked MJ in any meaningful amount or length of time and have truly never met a "Stoner". I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are of the latter group. They do exist, I used to live that lifestyle throughout much of my 20s and quit smoking pot 8 years ago. It was hard to quit, I still "jones" from time to time, usually when watching Family Guy or Harold and Kumar movies. Smoking pot is fun. But there is such a thing as too much of a good thing.
Only in America.
A more correct statement would be, "Only in America...does this finally happen because other countries have been doing it for years." Please research, you'll find this story is not even news in other advanced nations comparable to the U.S.
P.S. --- He changed his pic AGAIN!!
Maybe others do it too, but I don't want to live in any of them.
So, in the middle - you would rather this little girl suffer from the chemo without the relief that medical marijuana gives her? Or perhaps you would rather they pump her full of pharmaceutical drugs instead?
yeah great all the 30 40&50 yr olds still living at home in their parents basements cause they all need to sit
around and smoke dope all day! too tired to work stay up all night sleep all day . OH YEAH WEEDS GREAT!
been makin people lazy for years. why not just drink poisen!? cheaper and faster the parents get the basement back
Alcohol is a poison.
Joe....
I used to sound exactly like you even up to a year ago.
Then some bad things happen to me. I had to drop out of school due to financial and health issues. As a type-A personality and chronic overachiever, I had a closet tobacco smoking problem...which was the only thing I could find to help me regulate my stomach problems. Because of all this, I became depressed so my one-drink-a-week bar habit became much larger.
Eventually all these things caught up to me. I was dating someone who used MJ once in a great while (and was also successful and extremely hard-working) and I used to lecture him constantly about smoking a joint because it was "lazy"...while not being able to realize I was slowly killing myself with drugs that were "okay" because the government said so.
Then one day I was in so much pain and the medications the doctors were giving me were making me throw up. Desperate, I asked him for a puff. Guess what. No more pain, no more vomiting.
I'm happy to say that now I am off all my prescription drugs, walking at my college graduation in 20 days, have a successful career lined up, and haven't smoked a cigarette in over 3 months. Oh, and I'm going to be able to run a 5k for the first time in high school upon graduation. I volunteer weekly with a local charity and I don't live in my parent's basement. And yes, I smoke MJ from time to time.
So...please think before you make generalizations. I never realized how stupid I sounded until I opened up my mind a bit.
CoRavensFan,
I would much rather that. Because at least those drugs have been tested on children. I have a big beef with medical pot, and that is it is not administered or tested like other kinds of medicine. No long-term studies, no clinical trials, no dosing recommendations. That's how you do medicine. Her mom says it put her cancer in remission. There is zero scientific evidence of that. Just the opinion of a fringe contrarian who will move onto something else when MJ becomes mainstream.
You might want to check that claim. Many, many drugs are given to children that have never been tested on children.
DOCJT,
I am aware of that, but most of them aren't being discussed here. Even drugs that haven't been tested on children at least have been tested on adults in a controlled manner with the drug's efficacy, side-effects, and risks quantified. MJ has none of that. It's taken purely on faith that no harm is being done. That's not medicine.
Pragmatic:
MJ has been around for how many years?
Compared to the birth control pills and other adult medications that are given to children without being tested?
That's right....it's not even comparable. I was just taken off medication because it hadn't been tested correctly and was killing healthy people my age. I'm TWENTY FIVE YEARS OLD.
Last time I heard of someone stroking out on MJ was....never.
And there are medical studies on MJ out there. Perhaps you are looking in the wrong places or haven't the research skills to find it. And no, I'm not talking studies done by fringe groups. The cold hard fact is much of medical testing is being rushed or done by sub-par testing facilities in places like India, in order to get the product on the shelf faster.
Please, please do some research before casting me off as some legalization zealot. Real research, not research from groups like NORML. I used to sound exactly like you until I did.
That doesn't mean it isn't harmful. Nobody's done the hard science.
It's a good thing you knew about those effects so you could stop taking the drug. Imagine if you didn't know!
I have looked at it. I'm not going against the assertion that it relieves pain and nausea. There's a very well-established mechanism of action for why that is. These aren't medical studies though. I'm talking about dosing, how much of a drug do you take and how often, and clinical studies, which quantify how effective a drug is, what the side-effects are, and what risks there are. You don't take blood thinners if you've got a condition that makes you bleed, for example. So what conditions could somebody have that could harm them if they take pot? What other drugs would cause harm when taken in conjunction with pot? Real medicine can tell you these things.
I don't even know what NORML is. I go to the source and read journal articles. I'm sorry, the data aren't there.
I think I've outlined why I think it isn't medicine but the real issue I have is that it is disgusting to use sick people to try to push through legalization of pot for recreational use. I have no problem with pot for recreational use, except when the sick are used as a stepping stone to get there. It isn't medicine. Maybe someday it can be. We have to go through that process methodologically.
Joe, I've been smoking pot for 42 years, I just had a performance review which resulted in a 4% raise. The boss didn't say anything about me being lazy. Just the opposite. He said I should slow down a little, and pay a little more attention to some of the other employees who are beating themselves up trying to keep pace with me. He wanted me to make sure they're not skipping their breaks. Apparently some of them have been doing so, without me noticing, until he pointed it out. The next day I caught one of them doing just that. Poor kid was barely keeping up and didn't want create a bottleneck, so I got someone else who was a little ahead to take over that slot, for a few minutes. I try to set a good example, but I don't really expect the yougnsters to be as quick as their more experinced coworkers. Just to show up, and try. They'll get it down eventually. The ones that aren't going to make it, stop showing up within about 90 days, because they don't really want to work they just want to tell Mom they have a job. We had a job fair last April, so the few that are left are keepers, I don't want to accidentally destroy their moral. I guess it's time to drop a few clues on how to beat the random piss tests, so they can properly relax when they're off work.
There are lazy people who smoke pot. They are not lazy because they smoke pot, they're lazy because they're lazy. There are also hard working, productive people who smoke pot. They are not harder workers because they smoke pot. They are harder workers because they are harder workers. The pot just makes them more productive by helping them focus.
Ignorant followers of eighty-two years of propaganda would have you think the kids grab-assing and not paying attention to the job are the stoners. They're not. They are on Monster and RedBull. The stoner is the guy who seems able to focus all his attention on his work. You can tell he get's into it. He has a little smile on his face, he performs his task swiftly and smoothly and makes it look easy. This is why I once had the pleasure of overhearing this complaint to a CEO, from a line lead, a month after her whole department got tested all at once. "I aways lose all my best workers for marijuana."
Sorry, I have no links to verify my personal observations and experience, or the conclusions and opinions, derived from them. ..Nit pickers.
1 gram of cannabis oil is nothing compared to the opiates children may get or all the chemo drugs that are killing ALL the cells unhealthy and healthy in her body...
I hope she makes a full recovery!
True that.
A good response!!!!
MJ makes you stupid, so I would prefer a few dead cells that will regenerate, as opposed to dead cells that will not regenerate.
middle- You are grossly misinformed. I feel sorry for you.
In the middle--
I was on Vicodin and Naproxen for an injury last week. 500 mg. That stuff made me feel so stupid I stopped taking it after the 3rd dose.
Oh, and I was also throwing up anything and everything I put in my system. Including water.
So please, tell me some more about how MJ (a natural plant) makes you stupid and permanently kills braincells, but pharmaceuticals don't. Also, please show me a source explaining this.
Thanks!
This comment also smacks of ignorance. Hemlock is also a natural plant and it can kill you. Don't think that just because something is natural means it is completely harmless. Yeah I don't think pot kills brain cells and makes you stupid, but it does screw with the natural balance of cannabinoids present in the brain. What effect that might have on a brain that's developing is unknown and possibly harmful.
I never claimed it was completely harmless because it was natural. That was an assumption on your part. Likewise, just because something is "man-made" and "tested" doesn't make it harmless, either.
I feel bad for you and a lot of folks like you because you don't realize where or how your drugs are being tested. For sure I would never take away the power of a lot of these medications...they are very necessary for a lot of people. But that being said....you also have a false comfort level if you think the testing is flawless.
I am, however, claiming that responsible use of it is much better than the drugs I was given in that circumstance. You can't argue that.
Alcohol also kills braincells, if you misuse it. Anything you put into your system, which affects the way your brain works, will cause some damage. Surely that's just common sense? Doesn't matter if it's natural (alcohol is also natural ingredients) or not. MJ is no different.
in the middle-2260511
MJ makes you stupid,
I rather be around stupid people and seem smart, than around drunk people and worry about my safety.
It alters the way your brain functions, literally. There are receptors in your brain that react to the presence of THC. Think of them as an on/off switch. Once 'on' it takes a while to switch back to 'off'. The more often THC is present, the more your brain gets used to being 'on' and the longer it takes to being 'off'. Studies have shown that it inhibits brain development, which is why you really should not be using it while your brain is still developing as a teen. I did read (fairly) recently that pot smokers showed a 10 point IQ drop (compared to what was normal among other people) if they smoked it regularly for a number of years.
Eating too much corn makes you corny too.
Marijuana is not known to kill brain cells. Do an internet search to find various sources / actual studies.
I don't have any delusions about drug safety. I know the process of testing. Drugs have the ability to really hurt you. What's important is that these drugs are tested and at least some risk can be foreseen. I think you're the one with a false comfort level in that the impacts on your body aren't known and whether other drugs may have a co-reaction with pot and cause some really serious harm.
True that.
Robo,
And many of the medical MJ folks on here were probably the same folks accusing the study's authors of bias, even though those same authors showed a slowing in tumor growth from pot in an earlier study. A lot of folks are incapable of examining those data objectively and have an emotional attachment either for the drug or against the drug. I saw the same study myself and would like to see the effect replicated in a larger sample size, but it should be enough to give people pause. I certainly wouldn't give it to a 7-year old based on those data.
I'm initially weary of giving medicinal weed to someone so young, but ...to give some perspective, Ritalin is prescribed for those six years old and up. With that, I'd defer to the decisions of the doctors, the guardian and the patient.
Ritalin has at least been evaluated for children that young and numerous studies have been done on the effect it has on children. There is at least a body of evidence to look to. There is no body of evidence around MJ and the effect it has on a young developing brain. Nobody has done that research. Even recreational users tend to be in their teens or older.
Something tells me the doctor didn't know.
I really dislike this article. I know the dad was reporting this and perhaps even embellishing details out of spite over something the mom did, which makes him shallow and petty. But the mom doesn't deny it and strikes me as the type that doesn't have both oars in the water. Meanwhile the kid is stuck with the parental care of these train wrecks coping with cancer.
I honestly believe that the father is just trying to make trouble for his ex-wife. For Gods sake this little girl is on chemo, which is poison. I am sure that a little THC oil is a lot safer than the narcotic pain killers she would need otherwise. And when she recovers she wont have to go through withdrawal.
Anyone on chemo should be allowed to take cannabis. Old or young makes no difference.
Hell, why not expand it to every condition....depression, gas, bloating and poor eyesight? Just kidding of course, but anyone who advocates for cannabis use is just not being honest. People want it legalized for the same reason everyone has A.D.D. now. They want the high and they want it to be legal. This girls mother is using some for herself and/or selling the extra. I promise.
In the middle - Many of us that advocate medical marijuana are the most honest, because we have had loved ones that have benefitted from it. Do you understand how nice it is to see a loved one with cancer eat a meal without vommitting right afterward? Can you comprehend what it is like to see a relieved look instead of a look of pain on a loved ones face? Relief that has come from something that is not opiate based and physically addictive. Perhaps it is time to educate yourself on the benefits of this natural medication. Or do what most anti-marijuana proponents do, sit back and enjoy another Budweiser with your Prozac.
You need to be able to distinguish between the advocates whom are 17-year-old little boys wanting to get high and those with actual serious medical needs for it.
I'm tell you I actually do not like the high I get from MJ. But I tolerate it for the pain relief and escape from nausea.
I used to sound exactly like you, and I am in no way a "stoner." But I've also realized what DARE programs have shoved down my throat all these years were not completely true. I just went through about 5 months of health problems where all doctors did was jam another pill down my throat to deal with the side effects of the one before. I'm only 25 and they made me feel like I was old.
Smoking stopped the side effects and the pill cycle in its tracks.
Don't bother to tell me I'm probably lazy or addicted, either. I promise you I can refute it.
In the middle: get out of that box you live in every now and again. It would do you a world of good.
I'm with Dad on this one, and I'm a big advocate of medical marijuana. The kicker for me is the girl's age-her brain cells are multiplying rapidly at this age, and psychoactive drugs in a 7 year-old's brain is a scary thought. What are the long term effects when and if this little girl gets better and continues on with her life? Maybe the risk is worth it, maybe not. I don't think anyone in this equation has performed a benefits/risk analysis. Medical marijuana generally isn't prescribed by a primary care or other treating physician; the script is usually obtained from a Doc in the Box at a storefront clinic, and I've never known it to be prescribed for a minor, let alone a 7 year-old.
And opiates would affect her brain development in less negative ways how exactly? Not to mention her liver and other vital organs.
At least we KNOW about those effects and the parents can make an informed choice for what's best for their kids.
Nurse,
No primary care physician can prescribe pot. They can't prescribe drugs that aren't FDA approved. The most they can do is write a letter of recommendation.
Perhaps if the FDA would just relent and test it as you are demanding, we could put this whole thing to bed and people wouldn't be using it illicitly.
The truth is there's no way to know exactly how any drug is going to affect an individual. Everyone's body is different. There's no amount of testing and regulation that's going to guarantee safety for everyone.
Pragmatic, Thanks for the correction. My point is that people are assuming that her medical marjuana is prescribed by a physician who knows Mykayla and/or that either her pediatrician or oncologist is aware of her usage. In fact, it's very possible (likely) that neither her pediatrician nor her oncologist is aware that Mykayla is receiving it. And the Doc in the Box at the storefront may not even be prescribing for Makayla- mom may be sharing her "meds" with Mykayla. There are a lot of missing details in this story.
100% agree! They won't so long as it's a schedule I drug and illegal. Which is a shame.
While true, it's good to know if there are drug interactions or pre-existing conditions which should preclude use. Knowing even that small amount can save lives.
nurse,
I really hope the Doc in the Box didn't prescribe it for a 7 year old. It makes me ill enough to think the mom was sharing her meds.
OIC. So, 'tis better to give a child an opiate drug with well known side effects that can become life threatening than to give her a substance that has never been shown to have these same side effects? Oh, sure, that makes a lot of sense.
If Dad is complaining about her lieing in bed and playing video games, then he needs to see a leukimia victim in my no MM comunity. She is on her third round of chemo, and can't play vidio games because the treatments have caused neuropathy. She can only lie there. He might change his mind.
The little girl has leukemia. She will probably not live to see 16 years.
Wow, not true.
A GRAM A DAY??? Holy crap, that's alot! I've been a med marijuana patient before and a gram a day is alot for me, I can only imagine how stoned a 7 yr old would get!
a gram a day is only around 1 bowl a day. it's a tiny amount and you're obviously lying. it's not even enough for 1 joint.
ispeake stop lying. You were never a medical marijuana patient, a gram a day is not a lot and you would know that.
!!A gram a day!!!! YIKES!!! My ex mother-in-law used to talk about how acetamenophen really messed her up...until she found out it's the same as tylenol.
Tinture is alot different than bud. It is not as powerful. Now if you were giving the child earwax hash that would be something totally different. Tinture is powerful but does not kick in like good med marijuana. I think tinture is perfect in this situation. You can admin this much easier that putting some NY DIESEL in a granola bar for her. You can't really regulate how powerful that granola bar is going to be but you sure can with the tinture using an eye dropper . The eye dropper comes with the med attached to the bottle. Good doctors helping this little girl. For all you people scared of pot, get over it because we won. We are going to learn so much from this med in the future. You haters are just holding up important scientific processes.
Look up the ingredients in acetaminophen and you'll see why it's harmful. Then look up why Marijuana has been used for years medically.
This phrase hurts my brain. Acetaminophen contains acetaminophen. That's it's chemical name.
Ah, yes, and use accounts for any number of kidney failures every day.
I would say that a doctor knows better than child welfare services.
and I wouldn't even take into consideration the differences in educational backgrounds.
I don't know; you don't know; MSNBC doesn't know; Dad doesn't know, Mom doesn't know, the complete medical effects of THC because this country has treated it like a boogy man for so long. On the other hand, many, many cancer patients have benefited by using marijuana during chemo and at least now they can do so legally. Any reason a child should be denied those benefits? We're not denying her the chemo and it's horrible side effects are we?
Watch "Run fron the Cure" (youtube video)
Then make up your mind.
Not a pot user myself, but I am convinced that a) the plant has strong medicinal properties that have never been properly evaluated, and b) the pharmaceutical industry would do everything possible to block its legalization - there's far too much money at stake.
And at the same time, with cities declaring bankruptcy and our country's finances in the toilet, the one industry that has been proven to grow (pardon the pun) and produce jobs on an exponential basis is deemed illegal.
The old ex-leftist guerilla president of Uruguay has just legalized pot. Under heavy govt. control, profits going to combat the "real" drug problems like alcoholism, heroin and cocaine addiction, etc. He's looking at it as a welcome new industry. We have a pot industry in the states. It's called the judicial system and employs lots of cops, lawyers, judges, prison guards, etc. etc.
The Uruguayan president just decided to call the hand, pot is not harmful, and should be looked at in whatever productive way possible. Like legalizing it and taxing it and creating better jobs than cops, crooks, and all the rest of that game.
And how does cannabus "cure" leukemia (REMISSION?)
It doesn't. It only helps with the chemo. The chemo is supposed to do the curing.
Fever and night sweats.
Headaches. - Relieves pain
Bruising or bleeding easily.
Nausea from chemo - Relieves
It helps a person sleep, relieves pain, stimulates the appetite, and makes relieve other symptoms that make it easier to deal with the disease. Cannabis extracts also seem to benefit people suffering from multiple sclerosis (MS), by reducing muscle spasticity and so increasing their ability to stay independent. The first cannabinoid medicine derived from whole plant extracts (from the cannabis sativa plant) came into use in the UK in 2010 for people with moderate to severe spasticity in MS who haven't responded to other treatments.One of the cannabinoids that has displayed amazing medical properties is cannabidiol, or CBD - a non-psychoactive compound that is regarded by some as the medical discovery of the 21st century, and with good reason. Research indicates that CBD can relieve convulsions, reduce inflammation, lower anxiety and suppress nausea, while also inhibiting cancer development. In addition, CBD has exhibited neuroprotective properties, relieving symptoms of dystonia and proving just as effective as regular antipsychotics in the treatment.Further evidence to support the effects of cannabis extract on malignant cells comes from the real life experience of individuals who have successfully overcome cancer by using cannabis oil. Examples include a patient, who managed to completely cure his skin cancer by simply applying cannabis oil onto the affected areas of the skin, as well as another, who recovered from a severe head injury with the aid of hemp oil.What is amazing is that while cannabinoids effectively target and kill cancerous cells, they do not affect healthy, normal cells and may actually protect them against cellular death. Moreover, cannabinoids are also researched for their pain-modulation and anti-inflammatory abilities as they bind to special receptors in the brain, much like opioid derivatives that are commonly prescribed today.
Devil's Son... those are all symptoms. Weed cannot cure cancer. Please do not give legalization a bad name by attempting to claim it can cure cancer.
It probably only makes the mom feel better. Sick woman is probably using it for her own selfish needs.
Cannabis KILLS Cancer
@in the middle-2260511,
I hope you are never in the need to know. But if it was a loved one of mine, I would do any thing I could in this day and age.
In Oct. 81 my grand father was dying from a two pack a day addiction which he picked up in WWII. My father had heard of the benefits of cannabis and asked me to try and get some from the kids in school. My grand mother in her ignorance of cannabis would have had none of it and would have turned me in. I did not do it. I wish I had. He was 71 years young. If Mom needs the Meds. so be it. Much rather see her and daughter on pot then a bunch of pills.
Leukemia knows no age limits why should this kid be denied the benefits of cannabis.
End the madness, End Prohibition.
Headline should be '7 year old has leukemia', that's the real story and real tragedy here.
Or that this mother, like so many a.d.d. mothers, is using her child for her own high. I bet the kid has a.d.d. too. Drug addict parents suck.
"She is going to get over this....."
Because the REAL medical expert here is Jesse Comstock. I don't know why this mother even took the trouble to take her daughter to a doctor, when her ex-husband knows everything and can even see into the future.
Jesse Comstock lives in a state where marijuana use is ILLEGAL, adult or child. But Jesse Comstock is all for it. Which makes me wonder - is Jesse Comstock using marijuana in a state where marijuana use is ILLEGAL?!?
I believe Jesse Comstock's employer should take a closer look at Jesse Comstock and perhaps an impromptu random pee test is in order - you know, just to make sure that Jesse Comstock can walk the walk, as well as talk the talk.
Jesse will be able to see Mykala more often, but right now he's ON PROBATION himself, for OPERATING A VEHICLE WHILE INTOXICATED, which, according to public records, is a serious misdemeanor, which means he has to ask permission from his PROBATION OFFICER before he can leave the state. Otherwise he'd be able to be with Mykala, but those pesky misdemeanor charges won't let him off probation until 2014.
Only two more years to go, Jesse! Then once again you can REALLY be the pain in everyone's ass that we've always known you to be.
Until then - we'll be enjoying the fact that your coming's and going's are at the behest of the State.
Good luck with that.
LOSER.
trust me been smoking for over 40 years. at first just for fun now i am a old man with a lot of medical problems after a motorcycle accident. i smoke that rather then take the narcotics that are much much worse. like it or not.....it is safe no one has ever died from it
It takes 10,000 times the amount of marijuana to get you stoned, in order for marijuana to kill you.
It takes 5 times the amount of alcohol to get you drunk, in order for booze to kill you.
Except for those people who did stupid things while stoned that caused them to die.
"Except for those people who did stupid things while stoned that caused them to die."
..which 'in the middle' does not have statistics for.
Stupid people do stupid things because they are stupid, not because they are stoned.
How many drinks a week do you enjoy, In the Middle? Just curious.
There's a difference between stupid and deadly. They aren't synonymous. People may do "stupid" things while on both, but the percentage of people who do "deadly" things is far higher for alcohol.
Also....people do stupid AND deadly things hopped up on pills too. Guess we should ban all medications!
It is important to monitor the use of drugs. If the marijuana really is affecting the cancer then great, but a lot of people like to claim things helped them without establishing a correlation.
That doesn't sound too different from typical 7 year old behavior.
i doubt it really effects the cancer but that's not the intent anyway. it's used so that after chemo the patient can eat. the chemo makes you sick to your stomach and not want to eat and the marijuana settles your stomach and gives you an appetite.
You need to figure in the people who do stupid things while not stoned that caused them (and others) to die.
Your logic is full of holes.
It can also be a great pain killer. My first girlfriends mother died of cancer and on days when her morphine wasn't enough she would beg me to buy her some "doobies" to help her. It didn't eliminate her pain, but it did keep her from howling in agony. I personally use it to treat my Aspergers syndrome. After I found the propper strains (high CBD/THC ratios) I became the closest to normal than I have ever been in my life. I also hardly ever experience suicidal thoughts anymore which plagued me for years before I used marijuana. I was on prescription meds at the time which have left me with some permanent side effects that are similar to tourettes syndrome.
I'm glad that you have found the weed to be helpful. The side effects of psychotropics are lasting, and debillitating. I am glad you found something to help you deal with the illness that prescribed medications created.
Get well little girl.
I think mom just needs a stoner buddy. So now she has someone to get high with anytime she wants. I have seen and heard about this often as a teacher near ATL. Parents smoking with their kids etc to look cool or they think it's ok. This one happens to be doing this legally. I am an avid pot smoker, however at that age I do believe it would effect the brain development as well. I'd be closer to age 18 on when to start, but in all actuality I think it could be harmful until 22-25 or so to the brains' development. The brain isn't fully developed until around that age.
Read the article - she's ingesting the oils, not smoking the stuff. Hemp (cannabis) oil has been anecdotally attributed with "curing" a number of health issues, various cancers among them.
Opiates are far worse, which is what this child would be on if she didn't get the MMJ.
A child that dies from leukemia won't have much brain development.
It doesn't say she is on chemo now. In one place mom says cannabis eases chemo, in another place she says it brought remission. So how long would mom continue to give the cannabis? Forever? Leukemia is far from the death sentence it was once, there are many forms of leukemia, and many respond well to treatment resulting in ultimate recovery.
As a retired nurse I witnessed during my career many patients who would have benefited from medicinal marijuana if it were prescribed to them. It assists those who are ill who have a decreased appetite or no appetite at all who have chronic pain & sedative qualities that alleviate anxiety & promote relaxation, cannibas is a herbal remedy given to us naturally & offers many beneficial uses. In my opinion the only reason our government claims it is illegal is they make more money off of it by keeping it classified as an illegal substance and have not devised a way to control & tax it for even more profitability like they have done with tobacco & 'moonshine'(distilled liquids) whiskey & prescription (chemically manufactured meds in controlled laboratories) drugs. In certain states the use of marijuana is permitted, which is why users migrated to those states.
most politicians are lawyers. lawyers make a ton of money off defending or prosecuting marijuana users which is a huge reason it's not legal.
Well, as a medical professional for over a decade, I tend to see this as just another med seeking patient, just like a.d.d. moms. They all suck. This kid is getting little or none of the meds prescribed for her. The mother is using or selling them.
"as a medical professional for over a decade"
Dental hygenist or records clerk is not a medical professional.
I have been truly amazed by how many ignorant hate filled posts you have put on this thread InTheMiddle... you clearly don't know what you're talking about - and the phrase "medical professional" you use combined with the lack of knowledge you have been so clearly displaying tells me that you're some tech school grad who wears scrubs but isn't a doctor - so stop pretending to be one. :D
You're not a doctor.
@in the middle - OBVIOUS TROLL IS OBVIOUS.
If you WERE in the medical field, you would know the benefits of mmj. Delivering pizza to a hospital does not make you a medical professional.
In the middle,
I have now read at least 10 ignorant comments from you. You are not there, you know nothing. I don't know what your obsession is with A.D.D. mothers but you are wasting your breath demonizing her mother as a deadbeat drug dealer. While this may or may not be true, I seriously doubt she is a stoner buddy for her 7 year old and you implicating her in something that you have fabricated in your mind just proves how "stupid" some non- smokers are. Notice I said "some" not "all" which shows my intelligence because I am not over generalizing EVERYTHING.
While I am going to agree with you that Marijuana is addictive, (hey smokers, you're not doing yourself any favors distorting the truth of this), I will say that you are overstating and overplaying the addiction. I have been a smoker for over 18 years on and off. After long periods of being "on" I have experienced the following symptoms that last a week or so after final usage: Sleeplessness (just a difficulty falling asleep which is treated with 1 benedryl a night for that week). Decrease in appetite (Again, for about a week I have a hard time eating, but for the record I'd been eating like a crazy person for the "on" period, so no big loss, especially for a week lol). And those my friend, are the only syptoms I've ever experienced.
On the issue of pot making you stupid, I'll have to disagree, sort of. While high and for periods after being high (3 to 6 hours), I have experienced problems with short term memory. But as soon as I'm sober, it all returns. I have gone years without smoking and have had periods when I smoke everyday.
There are certainly people who lie about afflictions to get perscriptions. You also realize that people go to the doctor and lie to them (sometimes) to get perscription painkiller drugs from them? Sometimes the doctors give you a perscription without even asking. I've had a doctor give me 90 Percocet for a back pain that I thought could be considerably improved by doing core excercises. That's how I started off the conversation " I have a pain in my lower back, it's not intolerable but it's uncomfortable and it's bothering me. I'd like to talk about core excercises..." . His response was "Yeah those would work but I am also going to write you a perscription. Would you like percocet or loratab?" Needless to say, I didn't go see him again.
So, a person goes to the doctor and gets a perscription for pain meds. Whether they are really seeking or need them, the consequences are the same. The person goes home and takes one....it works great. Next day two....Next day three....Until one day they are taking a handful of 8 at a time three, four, five times a day to have the same effect as the first one. Then the person, who through no fault of their own or because they did not understand, or were not informed, or because they cannot cope with their pain, is labeled as an addict scumbag(by people like you)....when the pain is real. It is almost a certainty that addiction will occur with opiates. I don't think people understand what happens with opiate receptors in the brain and how they will turn off, never to turn back on with opiate abuse. This is why an opiate addict will have such pain when they come off drugs, it's real, and it lasts a life time. It's also the reason for reoccurance of the addiction in a high percentage of patients.
Then one day, they lay down on the couch and take a nap that they never wake from. Marijuana, on the other hand has NONE of these risks. Indeed, after time you must ingest more and more to get the same effect. HOWEVER, No matter how much weed I smoke, however quickly, I WILL ALWAYS WAKE FROM THAT NAP.
Instead of rehab this little girl will probably need a benedryl a night and therapy(because kid's need help with their coping skills and with impulse control, skills that most adults have developed) if she is ever well enough to go off of it.
While I am also concerned with the development of her brain, I am way more concerned with all of the opiates that will truly affect her brain for the duration of her life.
Stop talking about things you do not understand unless you are willing to learn about them. Most illegal drugs have medicinal qualities. Period. Marijuana has far fewer side effects than ANY of them.
Would there be any discussion or headline if this girl had been prescribed amphetamines for ADHD?
So, the little girl gets the medicine prescribed to her by her doctor, yet her father, who i'm sure has NO medical training, decides it's harming her??? Is he with her daily while she's having the poison pumped into her body - Chemotherapy is a horrible disgusting drug, full of poison, marijuana IS NOT......and it HELPS her....what kind of father would deny his own child.....he'd rather her suffer than feel better? and eat?? unreal..........
He has every right to question the treatment being given to THEIR daughter. I don't see anything wrong with him wanting to be sure the medical treatment she is getting is going to benefit her and not hurt her long term. While it is very sad he does not live near her it does not mean he is an uncaring, deadbeat dad. In fact this article shows just the opposite to me. Good for him for showing he really loves his daughter.
he says that she was stoned out of her mind and wanted to do nothing but lay around and play video games... maybe she wants to lay around and play video games because she has lukemia! My daughter is 9 and wants to lay around and play video games when she has a cough and sore throat! Shes not stoned! I have seen several of my family members undergo chemo treatments and they are no joke! Make you so sick that you can't eat, when you do you just throw up. WEatch them waste away to nothing, is this what you would rather have for your daughter???
That sounds like a normal child.
Get that pot away from the poor kid!!!!!!! Wouldn't want her to feel better now would we? For some reason people in this country have the idea that if something makes you feel better it must be evil. And if the "side effect" is euphoria then, by all means, it's the road to hell.
ok tell this MORON father to go read!!!!!! check his facts!!! 1st there is no danger of addiction, 2nd it does not subdue brain growth, 3rd it CAN stunt cancer cell growth!!! go figure! as for playing video games? well that should tell you that her brain works just fine!!! this hypocite needs to back off and let his little girl get well she doesnt need his interference!!! d.s.s. indeed!!!!
and now there are studies saying that video games also help reduce pain!
Don't be such a prick. He has a right to his beliefs, and definately when it is HIS child (as in, not YOURS). And for every study you could reference, he could find one too. The issue of MJ safety is not as simple as you imply.
I don't know that there's any proof that it doesn't inhibit brain growth. It obviously affects parts of the brain, so who knows what it does to a developing brain. I applaud the father for taking an interest in his daughter's health and questioning what he thinks isn't right. If you just want to blindly follow doctor's orders regarding your child's treatment, that is your choice.
Sugar affects the brain. Video games affect the brain. Computer use affects the brain. Air pollution affects the brain. Caffeine affects the brain. Nicotine affects the brain. Shall I go on?
All she wants to do is lay on her bed and play video games her father claims. Isn't that what stoned people do? I mean, when is the last time you saw someone really stoned doing something productive?
i'd say her taking the oils then being able to eat is being pretty produtive given her situation. it's not a drug for being productive anyway. i mean do you really want people getting stoned and then doing work with the possibility that an accident will happen increasing as it would? it's for relaxing for recreational users but you CAN be productive on it. i smoked a joint this weekend then cleaned the whole house.
Some of my most productive employees smoked one on the way to work, one for lunch break, and saved one for the road home. I much preferred their performance to those who showed up after a night's drinking.
Shoot, this guy I knew smoked before and at lunch and was one of the top employees. He broke records for shipping out the most packages and I also know people that work at the pentagon!!!!
Good for little Mykayla, Take your medicine and get well child. Pay no mind to these negative ninnies that think the way the government wants them to think. Parroted words from the brainwashed masses will never ring true. Our Liberty Bell is as cracked as the minds that we elect to lead us.
Let freedom ring ya nazis!
Anectdote: My dear Aunt Virginia was diagnosed with cancer and came to stay with us while she got treatment(Chemo) for the disease. She lamented the loss of her hair and her appetite. My mom was a fantastic country cook and Aunt Ginnie knew she was destined for an appointment with the reaper and wished with all her heart for one more opportunity to enjoy her sisters' cooking talent. So, I packed her in my car for a short trip to my place where I dosed her up with as much Cannabis as she could tolerate. Her depressed mood was immediately elevated and she gained her appetite back. At the dinner table that evening Aunt Ginnie was full of her usual frivolity and she ate until she nearly popped.
My mother definitely noticed the difference in her sister and asked me what I had done to bring it about. After I gave her the facts she hugged me and began cursing the government for making a beneficial part of Gods' Flora an illegal substance. A piece of Flora that grows naturally without the intervention of the hands of men who always seem to pervert everything they touch.
Study some history all you naysayers and learn how the power and influence of money turned a benign gift from God into a so called danger to society. It was only dangerous to the forestry(paper), chemical(artificial fibers), pharmaceutical and petrochemical( oil and gasoline) industries who lobbied for its outlaw. It threatens their profits because Cannabis is a better analgesic than aspirin. Hemp makes strong fibrous products like rope and clothing and can also produce ethanol from a fast growing renewable resource.
But, many career politicians fear the loss of their campaign funds and perks from the big money industry lobbies.
They will keep it down because they can't regulate its production like they can booze, oil and drugs because it will grow almost anywhere at a rapid rate.
So take all of those negative claims about Cannabis with a grain of salt because most of them are bald faced lies and exageration put in place to benefit the few. Even if it means suffering for the masses who pay their salaries and boost their bottom lines.
Chris- Everyone who works at the pentagon is subject to drug testing. The only exception is for the employees of the Best Buy and the other "Civilian" businesses that are there. All DoD civilians and contractors have to pee in a cup and will lose their job and security clearance if they piss hot. So you're friends working at the Pentagon are either rolling the dice with their careers or they are lying to you.
I know TONS of people who are very productive after smoking a bit. My 72 year old stepmother smokes a bit, and then cleans a bunch, or does scrapbooking, or gardening, or other projects. She's smoked her whole adult life, and owns a successful business, a house, etc., and is very much a homemaker. People can be so ignorant. Now, when she has a glass or two of WINE, she stops being productive....