Can house cut in half by Sandy be saved? Yes, says resident, but at steep cost

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UNION BEACH, N.J. -- A 150-year-old house that was so badly damaged by Sandy in Union Beach, N.J., that it was featured on the cover of Newsweek still has a chance to be saved, its occupant says.

Jon Zois, who has lived in the home for the past six months, told NBC 4 New York that his father and aunt, who own the home, have already had engineers look at whether it could be saved.

Zois said they were told it could, but at a very steep price that likely his family could not afford. 

"If there's anybody who wants to make this their cause, they're welcome to come help us out," Zois said.


A friend of Zois has already set up a website to help him and his girlfriend meet basic costs of being Sandy refugees.

But he said he really gets upset at people who drive by his Front Street home just to gawk and then drive off.

"It's my home, it's not a freak show," Zois said.

A neighbor upset with tourists put up a sign in front of Zois' home that reads, "Drop the camera and help."

Zois agreed, saying if people don't want to donate to individuals in need, they should consider the Red Cross or other Sandy relief funds. 

Mario Tama / Getty Images

The Princess Cottage, built in 1855, remains standing in Union Beach, N.J., after being ravaged by flooding by Hurricane Sandy. Click on this photo to see more images from Sandy's aftermath.

 

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I feel for this man & his family... but I hope they don't waste money rebuilding it unless they are going to use the best engineering techniques to withstand hurricanes (cinder blocks?) because there are always going to be MORE hurricanes. Or else... build in another location. ( I did donate to the Red Cross. I wanted to come & help like I did with Hurricane Agnes, but since I wasn't part of a church group, no one got back to me on that.)

Best of luck!

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Reply#1 - Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:20 PM EST

im sorry this happened, but people need to stop asking people for donations and start being proactive. if hes asking for donations, i can only assume that he didnt have homeowners insurance that covered this, or insurance at all. hes lived in the house for 6 months. if he was renting, he shouldve had renters insurance. this is all just common sense. i'm sick of seeing these stories. thankfully theres only a few people who are like "i have nothing left, give me money. i deserve donations." the rest of them are working it out themselves.

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#1.1 - Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:17 AM EST

Rock,

Homeowners insurance does not cover losses caused by flood water. Flood insurance has a maxiumum coverage amount of $250,000 on residential dwellings per FEMA standards. Thus, even if the remains of this structure were to be demolished, and he were to rebuild, he still would come up short, and would need to pay out of pocket.

Renters insurance does not apply since renters insurance does not cover a dwelling...only personal liability and contents.

The rest are working it out themselves? Well as you can see, the rest of "us" are obviously in the same boat due to flood policy coverage limits of $250K (total home losses that is).

Get some knowledge before foaming at the mouth.

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#1.2 - Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:20 AM EST

Shadow..............You donated to the Red Cross? Are you aware that 90% of the donations go for administration and the CEO makes almost a million dollars annually. Your money may be well spent in other areas!

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#1.3 - Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:16 AM EST

It's always sad to lose a part of history but rebuilding this house wouldn't make it historical anymore but a replica of sort. If this was caused by flood rebuilding may include raising the house above the minimum flood elevation.

We never get the whole story. Most people have different insurances to cover flood, rebuilding, temporary living expenses, etc. If they failed to purchase any of these then they had better get the tin cup out, a big one.

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#1.4 - Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:33 AM EST

1.3

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We should all take the time for Due Diligence on ALL Charity donations

http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=3277

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#1.5 - Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:04 AM EST

AQ-3307763 - thanks for the insight, i have an insurance license :)

the house is 160 years old and did not belong to him. renters insurance would've covered all his possessions. the house was clearly already paid off since it's been in his family for generations.

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#1.6 - Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:16 AM EST

Actually, in situations like this, even assuming he has all the insurance you are supposed to have, it will be nearly worthless. The insurance companies are pulling the same stunts they did after Katrina.

His Homeowners' Insurance will claim the damage was from flooding, and thus not covered. His Flood Insurance will claim the damage was from wind, and thus not covered. And in the end, nothing is covered, despite having paid for multiple insurance policies to cover every possibility.

Just like the homeowners trying to recover after Katrina, he will be lucky to get even a fraction of the insurance money his policies were supposed to cover.

    #1.7 - Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:51 AM EST

    I stopped giving to the Red Cross when I found out so little of my money actually reaches victims! I prefer to give to the Salvation Army (in which a very high percentage goes to the victims) and local charities that have shown they're more about helping others than paying hefty wages to management. Habitat for Humanity and Opportunity Village in So. Nevada are my local favorite charities!

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    #1.8 - Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:27 AM EST
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    It would have to be cheaper and faster to tear down and start new.

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    Reply#2 - Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:20 PM EST

    You are, of course, absolutely correct. Of course the home could be repaired in place but to even consider "repairing" it is just plain stupid. And they have the audacity to ask for money/donations to do this?! I feel for all these people who've lost their homes, but please let's have some common sense. Is that too much to ask? (apparently it is)

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    #2.1 - Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:56 AM EST
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    Tear the house down and move elsewhere with the insurance money. To rebuilt it is stupid and unsafe. The next storm will slice the house in half again if rebuilt in the same location.

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    Reply#3 - Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:22 PM EST

    The house has lived its life.

    Now would be a good time to build something with a smaller carbon footprint. Old houses generally wasted a lot of energy.

    Unless we want more of these storms - and worse - we need to build smarter.

    Old houses and today's McMansions are usually just an ego stroke. Not counting those homes which have been in the family for generations.

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    Reply#4 - Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:40 PM EST

    My house is over 120 years old. I didn't buy it as an ego stroke but because I got it at a good price. This old house stood up to Sandy as she has to many storms of the past. Outside of the basement which got about 7ft. of sea water in it and the 1-2 feet of sand piled around the yard, the house had very little damage. They don't build them like they used to.

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    #4.1 - Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:52 PM EST

    How much energy do you use? It isn't cheap when you pay for the maintenance, and lose heat all over the place.

    There are plenty of well built modern homes set up with 12 volt lighting, super insulation and even solar panels.

    Large houses and old houses waste resources. Old large houses waste even more.

    I used to run a $210/month (avg) electric bill. Now I run $90 on the most expensive and $40 on average.

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    #4.2 - Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:15 PM EST

    I've always lived in old houses. They have personality, unlike the sterility of most modern houses. You know what JOregon, one can actually reinsulate older houses. What a concept huh? Who woulda thunk it? By the way my eletric bill averages under $60/month and we live in a rural area with expensive electricity!

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    #4.3 - Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:15 AM EST

    Please. Go climb a tree and sing kumbaya. These storms are not caused by a carbon footprint. Weather is a cyclical event. Did you know that just 10 or 15 years ago they were calling for another ice age??? They called it Global Cooling. Funny how you can change science to suit your needs. I guess if we just all hold our breaths the atmosphere will improve?! Get real.

    I feel sorry for these people. They have lost their home and all their possessions and you are worried about their carbon footprint. I hope they get the help they need whether it is to repair this beautiful old home or to rebuild.

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    #4.4 - Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:27 AM EST

    No the planet is getting warmer.

    Somebody has been listening to too many deniers out there.

    I am 60 years old. I remember 10-15 years ago quite well, it was getting warmer then too.

    Since I still live in the same area I was born in I remember the weather of the 50's and 60's also.

    There are fluctuations but it is getting progressively warmer.

    People grow palm trees around here now, back in the 70's that would have been impossible.

    I remember going over the mountain passes and the snow was a wall obove the car on each side, now you're lucky to get a foot or two.

    I have talked to the old timers that remember when the river froze.

    It isn't just personal experience though, scientists have the readings and data that says clearly the earth is getting warmer.

    There are places in Italy and France that are now desert where they were once fertile. The Sahara has crossed over the Mediterranean.

    When you look into the people that say the earth isn't warming you might want to check out who they get money from. When there are big lies check the money trail.

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    #4.5 - Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:09 PM EST
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    Energy costs aren't too bad. The plaster walls are thick. I replaced the 48 windows a few years ago with double pane glass. Since I'm at the shore, the summers are 10 degrees cooler and the winters are 10 degrees warmer than the mainland. Don't need A/C there is always an ocean breeze.

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    Reply#5 - Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:25 PM EST

    My old house had plaster walls too. I also mostly used a wood stove for heating. Still it was bigger than I needed and used a lot energy. Nice thing about Western Oregon is we have a very temperate climate. Never gets very hot (for long) never gets very cold (for long). Still, the energy wasted was too much.

    Now I live along the River and that really helps keep things cool in the summer.

    These people are wanting to rebuild a 150 year old house. When they rebuild it, it won't be 150 years old, but will have the same problems of a 150 year old house.

    My suggestion is to build smart instead of building for ego. As an added bonus many homes built for energy conservation are actually really nice homes.

    Last Spring I was at a new home that had solar, 12 volt lighting, 2 bedrooms, an office, living, dining, large kitchen, wide doors with flat thresholds (they were older thinking of the future) one level, and the projected utility cost was $45. It was a stunning home.

      #5.1 - Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:48 AM EST
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      It may be old, but I'm not that impressed. Maybe they can tear down and salvage pieces to use in the construction of a new more efficient clone home. However, sometimes you gotta let go of the past and build something new that people will want to save 150 years from now.

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      Reply#6 - Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:33 PM EST

      Why don't you drop the attitude and the wrecking ball - we're about running out of "Oh poor people" when we've got our own @!$%# to deal with.

      From the rest of the Country.

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      Reply#7 - Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:27 AM EST

      Very Christian response Reverand.

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      #7.1 - Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:35 AM EST

      Not a Reverend or a believer in fairy tales - just one of thousands of drought stricken farmers losing everything too but in a different way.

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      #7.2 - Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:47 AM EST

      Sorry, I didn't know. I agree this country hasn't paid nearly enough attention or given enough charity to your part of the country as it should.

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      #7.3 - Wed Nov 28, 2012 1:01 AM EST

      If I had a dime for every six-figure income farmer that cried poor... I'm not saying that "Rev" isn't one of the ones that is genuinely in distress. I'm just saying that the occupation "farmer" does not automatically = hard working person that is barely getting by. The rich ones usually don't seem to recognize the difference, but I sure as hell do.

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      #7.4 - Wed Nov 28, 2012 1:10 AM EST

      Chris is right. Farmers whine the most. Sell some of your property to get by Rev. Your fake name shows your true colors. Another fake farmer out to deceive people anyway they can. Try eating your product. it is not like anyone else cant afford to eat it because you jerks keep raising the prices.

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      #7.5 - Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:35 AM EST
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      @Rev J Wright
      You, sir, are dirt. Please die soon.

      From, people who give a damn about others except those who don't give a damn about anyone but themselves.

        Reply#8 - Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:50 AM EST

        Tear it down and start over. That house is not worth saving.

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        Reply#9 - Wed Nov 28, 2012 1:20 AM EST

        Good thing it wasn't in Indianapolis. The city would have slapped a 10-day demolition order on a safety hazard like this, and required a sturdy chain-link fence around it within 48 hours.

        Most of the houses in the blast zone on Indy south side looked pretty good from outside, except for broken windows and some loose siding. But the demo orders have a short time limit.

        I hope these homeowners have hurricane and flood insurance, but 155 years of surviving the storms could definitely make it seem unnecessary. Actually, if it only becomes catastrophic once every 155 years, it makes economic sense to go uninsured. Just write it off and rebuild occasionally. Add up the (hurricane and flood) premiums over a 155-year period (with compounded interest) - save it in a rebuilding trust.

          #9.1 - Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:10 AM EST
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          Yes,it is a freak show. Tear it down already and rebuild. Please do not rely on everyone to bail you out when others have lost all.

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          Reply#10 - Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:21 AM EST

          First off, it's a 150 yr. old house, which loks pretty totalled to me, and the owners were dumb enough not to have a full coverage insurance policy on it, but they have the nerve to ask for donations, when countless people have the same problem? The nerve of some people these days....geez

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          Reply#11 - Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:01 AM EST

          okay dude you got your fifteen minutes. You lived there six months - really. Let the house go... wasting money and trying to capitalize is wrong. I know Sandy took half the home, it also took peoples lives. Manhattan is still trying to get going - buildings are still closed, they have power by generator trucks. Peoples jobs are all over the place and you are mad because someone gawked at the house, really. Get over it.

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          Reply#12 - Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:42 AM EST

          call This Old House and ask them....better project for them then helping rich people in boston make yuppie house's out of old houses....it's a thought...hope you can save it...

            Reply#13 - Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:42 AM EST

            Build a stilt home.

              Reply#14 - Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:00 AM EST

              Why bother, it's not that great looking a place. Trying to fix that place is just a money pit, tear it down and build something up to code.

                Reply#15 - Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:07 AM EST

                Whomever built that roof back in 1855 knew what he was doing.

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                Reply#16 - Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:39 AM EST

                Man that is the same thought I had what a structure! Coming from a Journeyman Carpenter.

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                #16.1 - Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:14 AM EST

                Yeah, I was impressed. I am a master carpenter and have been appalled at the workmanship in modern homes. In 1855 they were practicing joinery and the workmanship in that old home speaks for itself.

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                #16.2 - Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:49 AM EST
                Reply

                Where's "This Old House" when you need them?

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                Reply#17 - Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:45 AM EST

                I was going to say the same thing but you beat me to it. That would be a great show to watch.

                  #17.1 - Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:13 AM EST
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                  How can the owners get angry cause someone stopped & looked? Thats like the idiots that wont slow down in winter weather then they get angry at you when u tease them cause they slid in the ditch. lol Dont want to be laughed at, then live in an underground bunker!

                  • 1 vote
                  Reply#18 - Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:48 AM EST

                  Really?

                    Reply#19 - Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:01 AM EST

                    $250K to rebuild on land I already own! Right on I am building a mansion!. If they had insurance they should be fine with a 250K check. It is unfortunate they lost thier house but it is only a house not thier lives.

                    I would help if I lived in New Jersey, I do donate.

                      Reply#20 - Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:11 AM EST

                      $250K won't go far these days building a house. While I am all for saving historical structures, this one looks like it's too far gone. The owners may want to consider an alternative to building the house on site that could be less expensive in the end.

                      I live in Central NJ. We put up a new house after a house fire about 6 years ago. We cut our costs by building a modular home manufactured in central PA. We hired a general contractor who worked with the house manufacturer. The house came on five flat bed trucks and was put together in 24 hours' time. However, it was three months before we could move in. Not only did the workmen have to do the drywall and spackle the seams, but other things like electric, plumbing and the central air had to be installed. The sewer hook up had to be redone, the electric had to be done, walkway and driveway had to be done, etc. There are a lot of extra costs involved that you may not think about - demolition of the old structure, hauling away of debris, permits, etc. However, our new house is a bigger, more green house than the old one and has things like central air and a fireplace that we didn't have before, but we save a lot on heating and electric because it's more energy efficient. Central air has been great for my allergies, too!

                        #20.1 - Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:05 AM EST
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                        There are people who will move old houses such as this one to other locations and restore them. I think if it were myself, I'd put up an ad and see if someone would move the house then I would build a new hurricane proof house.

                        • 1 vote
                        Reply#21 - Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:12 AM EST

                        What the *#@ for? Just knock it down and rebuild the thing.

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                        Reply#22 - Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:25 AM EST

                        I sympathize with him for the tragedy of Sandy and the loss of his home, but regarding the pictures, you can't have it both ways. The home's dramatic damage has attracted national attention that he's using as a platform to solicit donations. Hopefully this will help him. However, he really can't get angry at people standing on a public road and taking their own photos.

                        • 1 vote
                        Reply#23 - Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:51 AM EST
                        Comment author avatarSheila Dunningvia Facebook

                        They need to add a list of building materials that are up to New Jersey's building code as well, that way people that aren't comfortable with donating money can donate in another way by donating some of the material that will be needed to get this house repaired.

                          Reply#24 - Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:19 PM EST

                          Give to the Salvation Army if you want you most of your donation to reach the people that really need it. The head of the Salvation Army only takes a salary (last I heard) of under $14,000 per year. He does receive housing paid by the organization. Re: the wonderful old home. Homes were built to last 2 centuries ago. Lived in a farm house that was over 100 years old and its bones were like Lincoln Logs. The corners were L shaped and were 2 stories tall. Everything was notched to fit with an az or an ax, 2x4's were 2inches by 4 inches. Not today's slighted measurements.

                          I wish this man and his girlfriend the best in restoring this wonderful old dwelling. All old dwellings need our respect if they were well built. They have a wonderful "feel" about them. Our was thought to have a ghost in residence. That just might be true as I never felt alone when I was the only one home.

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