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Subscribe to RSSNot a single person was reported stabbed, shot or slashed in New York City on Monday, a possible sign of a downward trend in violent crime that could put the city at its lowest murder numbers since 1960 by the end of the year, according to a published report.
When asked about the absence of those incidents, chief NYPD spokesman Paul Browne told the Daily News it was a "nice way to start the week" and added he couldn't recall a time when the city logged zero such cases in the same day.
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Tom Repetto, an NYPD historian and author, told the News the absence of shootings and stabbings Monday was uncommon, but indicative of a larger trend.
"They're going to come in with the fewest number of murders since about 1960," Repetto said of the NYPD this year. "It's an almost impossible figure, but their programs have been fabulously successful in stopping crime."
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Murders citywide are down 23 percent year over year, with 366 recorded thus far in 2012 compared with 472 the year before. The city is on pace to finish the year slightly above 400, Repetto said. Shootings are also down.
Total crime is up in the city by 3 percent this year, but officials attribute that mostly to an increase in grand larcenies connected to the rise in smartphone and tablet thefts. Police have implemented a series of programs to deter those crimes, particularly in subways.
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They just haven't found the bodies yet...
They just changed the definition of crime.
Wall Street is full of Crime Lords, I mean business executives.
Actually between Sandy wiping out people's homes by floods, sand, the blizzard hitting next, the blackouts, the fires, mold and cold,roads impassible, neighbors helping each other,large neighborhoods people haven't returned, I suspect most criminals are all having a hard time finding anybody to prey on. Because so many folks are still struggling to get back to a normal routine.Makes it hard to live off others or pick a fight.
Hmmm... machspeeddemon More likely than not, you are correct.
I think the likelihood of zero crime for any one day in New York City has about the same probability of me becoming the next Czar of Russia.
Uh oh...Torchwood: Miracle Day
I some how think they have missed something that wasn't reported but any way this is a beautiful thing if it is true.
One day is a trend????
Actually, spider, I think it's more of a fluke than a trend!
This is refreshing!
Now I know I'll win the lottery, tonight! (Yeah! I know the drawing has already been held, but I haven't checked it out, yet.)
Congratulations NYC, it is incredibly note worthy that the reported number of murders may peak at 400 for the year. It is remarkable that this Monday, absolutely zero stabbings, shootings or slashings were reported. I feel it is something to celebrate.
Sadly, I see from the many postings, others find it something to berate and be sarcastic about. These would be the naysayers who write, "A one day trend" or "The bodies have yet to be found". Tragic that such negative thinking dominates the postings.
I would prefer to live in a society where we expect fewer killings each year. When we expect society to killer fewer citizens, perhaps we can live up to our expectations.
Funny how you guys who live so far away from here, seem to be such experts. This liberal city is safer then most places in the world. And yes, we are proud of it. thank you very much.
Bada bing, bada boom, forget about it NewYork...Salvatore "Big P*ssy" Bonpensiero aint no more...
Yup, liberalism is great at eradicating crime. Just ask Detroit.
Too negative? Okay: I'm positive they just haven't found the bodies yet...
I do live in a society where we expect (far) fewer killings each year than the rates in big cities. While I can't get Chinese take-out at 3:00 am, I (positively) adore the low murder rates in my little corner of the world.
They didn't say a day without CRIME. They said a day without a reported murder, stabbing, or slashing. They also said crime is up 3 percent but the murder rate is down. But hey a day without a murder being reported is a good day. :)
Wasn't there a scandal recently regarding crime reports being misreported or otherwise misrepresented for NYC, which may have been contributing to the lower metrics?
No, that is Milwaukee...
There was. They are just too scared to call the cops.
It is pretty sad that this made the news!
Not really, when you consider the population.
No one called NYPD... Otherwise there would've been few shot people.
I agree to a point on your statement.....but it's also a matter of people being scared to call or report issues.
How about it just being a good positive thing, if not for just one day? Why all the negative comments? They said VIOLENT crime, not NO crime. And yes Laura, it is news. We need some positive reporting. Just too bad there isn't a little more information in the story. Like how many calls were there in the days,or months leading up to this very positive story. Is there a trend? So, I suppose if you meant by asking if this is news is the lack of more information, I would agree with you.
LOL because republicans are always negativity. I recognize many of these guys from all the political posts they produce in other articles. fear is their middle name.
rednawt1
OK, run with it and make some up....what else is new?
More positive? Okay: I'm positive they just haven't found the bodies yet...
Bravo, and may you have many many more! I love NYC, and if I could find a place I could afford there, that's where I'd be. It's the greatest city in the world, with the greatest people (once they know you're not trying to rip them off)-Watch how they help one another in a disaster - Incredible - San Francisco is pretty effing cool, but there's just something about the City That Never Sleeps that took my heart years ago and won't give it back!
LOL
Oh wait you're serious?
ROFL!
for a city of so many people those #'s aren't horrid
Murder rates might be down now, but it's just a matter of time before the large-sugary-drink black market explodes with a new round of violence...
Gimme a Big Gulp motha fkka. I mean now!
I wish Atlanta could boast such an accomplishment. Years ago Atlanta police started to have to keep their shotguns in the car trunk because "community leaders" said it the police look too aggressive and put people on edge. At that time they also had to call in to their duty sargeant's permission to bring their shotgun from the trunk.
I don't know if that is still the case. Thank goodness I live in Cobb County Ga. where the county police keep their shotgun where everyone can see it.
Mo Blutarky
I agree, it should be that way in every state, here in the middle of know where it is that way.
Some bouroughs must have forgotten to report their numbers.
Thought maybe it had something to do with Kathi Lee and Hoda staying sober for a day.
It would drop 20 fold if it it repealed its ban on firearms. Hell, gun control itself is a direct violation of the second amendment. But liberals don't care about that.
Yawn...
New York does allow concealed carry. I think its a fluke the numbers are down, unless New York City has introduced some radical changes.
How would you figure the figure would DROP 20-fold if NY would drop the ban on firearms. Let's remember that when the 2nd Amendment was written it was revised and rewritten a total of seven times...seven times.
The actual wording is as follows: "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
To clarify, the 2nd amendment is not about giving INDIVIDUALS the ability to carry weapons (and remember the guns available at that time was a musket) - it was about giving states the ability to arm a militia, such as we have today with our National Guard. It provides for each state to have the same weaponry as the Federal Government has. If you notice, it is our National Guard that has the same weaponry as our Federal army and the National Guard has been fighting in Iraq since 2002.
If you wish to discuss when the Constitutional framers discussed individuals rights, just look at the 5th amendment. There, they used the "the people" and "no person shall". Clearly the framers meant individual rights at that point. If the framers meant individuals should own and be able to have the individual right to bear arms, they would have said so in the 2nd amendment.
As they didn't, please re-read the seven-time re-written 2nd amendment included above, and tell me again, just how would the NYC murder rate would DECREASE if their gun ban were repealed? Actually while you're at it, please explain how gun control is in direct violation of the 2nd amendment? Especially as I have clearly broken it down for you above?
Thank you for your time. I look forward to a clear reply.
I think you contradict yourself. Let's explore your words, shall we? What you are saying is that because the 5th amendment uses the words "the people" it refers to individual rights, correct? Well pardon me, but could you go back and re-read the seven-time re-written 2nd amendment YOU YOURSELF quoted? Right after the part about the well-armed militia, it says "the right of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed". Based on what you've just said about the 5th amendment, you yourself have just confirmed that the framers clearly meant INDIVIDUAL rights at that point. You can't have it both ways. It can't mean one thing in the 5th amendment and something different in all the others.
The several states do have the right to form their own militia (I was a member of the Virginia Defense Force for quite a while myself). In the event of an emergency, gathering people, doling out weapons and teaching them to use them would take precious time. Individuals that already have and know how to use firearms would thus expedite the assembly of such a group. Thus when Paul Revere went through the countryside saying "The British are coming!!" (I know, history is sketchy here but bear with me, will you?) the people grabbed their guns so that they could be ready for an attack. Instant Militia, just add enemy. The rights of INDIVIDUALS to keep and bear arms is EXACTLY what the framers had in mind when they wrote, and re-wrote, the words "THE PEOPLE". THAT is why gun control is in direct violation of the 2nd amendment. Funny how your own logic can turn around on you, isn't it?
As for how crime would decrease if gun bans were repealed, think about it. If you were a punk thug out to rob someone, would you be more or less likely to attack someone if you knew they had a concealed weapon? I know I wouldn't. Now put yourself in a city where any person might have a weapon. I don't know who's armed and who's not, so I'm less likely to stay there because MY butt could be lying on a slab in the coroner's office. I'm gonna carry myself to someplace like New York or Chicago, where guns are forbidden to individuals unless you get LOTS of paperwork. I know NO ONE is concealing and have a field day. The places with the strictest gun laws still have gun crimes because the criminals can still get them and know the law abiding citizens DON'T have them. Makes them much easier prey. Back when the west was Wild, there weren't a lot of break ins on people's homes like there is today. Not because there wasn't much to steal (what was valuable to them then may not be to us today but only because things in general are more desireable now. Remember, only a few years ago kids were shooting each other for SNEAKERS!!!) but because those people depended on their shotgun for meat, kept it loaded and within easy reach should a fox, wolf, or other vermin try to infiltrate their livestock. A robber sure as HELL would not try to break in... unless they knew the man of the house was out hunting. No weapon, no resistance, right? Now imagine the prospective victims had an extra gun and someone else in the home knew how to use it, that robber would get a rude awakening, wouldn't they? See how having a gun can deter the chance of crime? You are less likely to attack ANYONE if you don't know who's armed and who's not.
Yeah ok they are juke'in the stats plain and simple 366 killings I live here no way..if someone kills their sposue its domestic violence not murder if I kill its a stranger its murder and then there is "drug related"
It's nice to see that the trigger-happy, racist cops in NYC finally chose a day to leave their guns in their holsters.
I will never understand the logic of some people. "trigger happy racist cops". wow
You said "logic"; you cut-up!
everyones to busy bailing water,aint nobody gonna run thu no water to kill somebody.
I would agree. They don't have to fight for things right now. Their is enough damaged goods (buy this I mean houses to lude) to go around. But once the supplies run out its on.
Check out the crime rate in NYC right after 911, it dropped to almost nothing for some time. By the way houses are looted. Lude refers to perverse behavior or acts.
Wow the cops didn't kill anyone? No chopped up women in NYC? No innocent people shot a hundred times by accident? Now that is something!!!
Glad that this happened. Sad because there is so much violence that one day without strong violence is to be celibrated. This is what the United States has evolved to.
Theirs 365 days in a year. 475 murders in a busy year is less than two a day. No murders in a day, or a down year sounds very possible to me.
okay so lets try for two days
It is after all, the holiday season.
lol
I believe they are talking about ALL violent crimes, assault, rape and murder. Not just murder and not trigger happy racist pigs. It is a positive thing to read today. Now if they would have written something about how much crime happens on a normal day there or if there is a trend beginning or what kinds of "programs" seem to be working would have been much more useful. Good going NYC! I hope you have many more VIOLENT crime free days in the future.
@rednawt1, are you brain damaged? Do you really think this has anything to do with "programs"? And your reference to "trigger happy racist pigs", really? Do you live on this planet, or do you just visit occasionally?
OldDog, I was just repeating a previous comment by someone else pointing out how asinine HIS comment was. My comment about "programs" in quotation marks should have led you to believe I really didn't believe the part about "programs" but was only pointing out there was , as usual, not enough information in the article. So no, I am not brain dead. But still, good going NYC! ANY day without violent crimes is a good day indeed!
Between the devastation of the storm, damage done to the entire area, and the Obama Win! People are feeling that ANYTHING is possible...even an entire 24 hour period of NO MURDER in NYC!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Their messing with you all it just changed now the government is stealing from the people by sending power bill when they had no power, the house has destroyed and getting tickets for having a mess and it goes on all by federal, state and utilities companies. And FEMA is not doing DODO
People should clean up their own homes. Unless they have insurance. As for the power bill, nothing is free. Even the money this country hands out every day to those who choose to have lots of kids, sit on their asses, not work and collect a paycheck. It all has to be paid for some way, some how, someday.
This is a direct result to hundreds of community leaders, community organizers, social service organizations, the NYPD, and Mayor Bloomberg. Congratulations to all. Thank you for all your dedication and hard work. And way to man up young men and ladies of NY for doing the right thing in your young lives.
Wall, and may add middle aged and older gents and ladies? It isn't just young people who commit crimes.
@rednawt1"It isn't just young people who commit crimes." No, just the vast majority of them!
Just sayin OldDog, just sayin OldDogs need praising too.
The most recent stabbing was reported on Monday at 11:59 PM
The most recent shooting was reported on Wednesday at 12:02 AM.
So yes, technically no violent crime in NYC for Tuesday.
I don't understand TiBi, is that a good thing or a bad thing? 24 hours and 3 minutes. I would say it is a good thing. What would be more interesting would be a report for the whole 24 hours of Wednesday or even Monday. Did the shooting result in a death? Was it an accidental shooting, murder/attempted murder or suicide/suicide attempt?
You don't understand much, do you?
This one OldDog, you will have to explain to me. Saying a day without violent crime is a good thing? Or the fact the article was lacking in information? Hey, maybe NYPD was just lying. Yup, that must be it. But why?
I believe the actual point of the article is to highlight that violent crime in NYC is trending downward, which means that Mayor Bloomberg's and the NYPD's efforts to curb violent crime are effective, if the statistics are accurate.
All of the NYC scum that would be committing these crimes have moved upstate to the Binghamton, NY area. Thank you NYC for kicking them and sending them our way!
The crimes happened, but they just weren't reported yet.
They need to know the secret in Oakland and Detroit now please...
Agree, Detroit, Pontiac, Flint and Saginaw Michigan----Michigan is bad and getting worse.