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Pfc. Bradley E. Manning is escorted from a pre-trail hearing on Tuesday in Fort Meade, Md. Manning is accused of sending hundreds of thousands of classified Iraq and Afghanistan war logs and more than 250,000 diplomatic cables to the website WikiLeaks while he was working as an intelligence analyst in Baghdad in 2009 and 2010.
Staff at the Quantico brig kept Army Private First Class Bradley Manning on restrictive lockdown during his time there because they were erring on the side of caution, according to testimony given Wednesday by the base's then-security battalion commander.
The second day of this week's hearings are underway in the case against Manning, who is charged with leaking thousands of pages of classified documents to the website WikiLeaks.
This week's hearings cover a motion filed by the defense claiming that the charges against Manning should be dismissed because his confinement conditions were egregiously harsh while he was held in the Quantico brig between July 2010 and April 2011. Pfc. Manning was held on 23-hour lockdown in a small cell. For several days, the defense said, had his clothes taken from him at night.
This morning, the court heard a portion of testimony from Col. Robert Oltman, who commanded the security battalion at Quantico while Manning was held there.
Manning's defense attorney David Coombs pressed Oltman on a number of email exchanges and meetings Oltman had with Quantico leadership and with the psychiatric staff there.
Manning's defense argues in its motion that the Quantico leadership was overly concerned with the Army private, in part because of the media scrutiny surrounding the case and in part because another detainee at Quantico committed suicide just months before Manning's arrival.
During his time at Quantico, Manning remained classified as a maximum-security prisoner and as a risk to his own safety, despite recommendations by the psychiatric staff that Manning was no longer a risk to himself.
After Manning was transferred to the Army prison at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, he was placed in a medium-security facility with far fewer restrictions.
Col. Oltman testified that he was aware of the psychiatric staff recommendations but that their views were only one part of a larger assessment of Manning's status. The brig staff erred on the side of caution, Oltman said, because Manning arrived at Quantico as a suicide risk and none of his behavior with the brig staff indicated he had changed.
Oltman's testimony will continue when court reconvenes.
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It's prison it's not meant for his enjoyment his basic needs are being met nothing more nothing less. He has no one to blame for the situation but himself.
This is just some posturing by the defense. There is absolutely no way that they realistically expect the charges to dropped because of the conditions under which he was held in Quantico. There was nothing egregious about those conditions and they certainly would not warrant dismissing charges of treason!!! I hope that Manning never again sees the light of day other than through the bars of a prison. He is a complete disgrace to the uniform and the entire US military. He did not release those documents because he saw some great wrong that needed to be righted. He did it because of spite and the fact that he was upset over a break-up with his gay lover. He blamed the military for that break-up and wanted to get even so he released the documents. Any claims of altruism are purely manufactured bull@!$%# and there was nothing in any of the documents that he released that pointed to any great wrongs being committed by our military.
Glad to see you have reviewed all of the evidence, interviewed witnesses for the defense and prosecution and came to an enlightened and reasoned conclusion that he is guilty. With peopel such as your self walking among us why do we need a jury system?
Oh Joe, thanks for my laugh for the day. Allow me to enlighten you. This is a section where people (not as you suggest peopel) give their opinions on a subject. That is very different from fact.
Is it posturing? It could be. Seems to me that the way to handle this is for the defense to get a motion before the appropriate court to loosen the holding requirements, and as a part of any order that loosens them, the order should include a requirement that the defendant sign a waiver of any liability in the event the defendant commits suicide. Plus, there should be a determination that the guy is competent to sign such a waiver. Assuming the tribunal agrees with the defense, then the prison guards should make sure the defendant has enough rope to hang himself, just in case everyone is wrong.
I have 2 nephews that each have returned from Afghanistan over the last 2 months. This low life complains about a small cell? Low life scum.
witchrunner... blah blah blah blah... enough! A waiver?? SERIOUSLY?? Wow, guess you believe in the Tooth Fiery and the Easter Bunny.
Sometimes, you should just read and not respond... people will think more highly of you...
Put you in conditions like this and then make all of your cells 3 by 6 foot for the comments that lack compassion.
These leaks should have never been classified anyway.
Also if this expose corruption by officials and personnel who seek to hide behind the evil that they do then good for him.
Classified non classified.... bull crap!!!!
Leaks were put out and nothing in them should have been classified.
I want to turn the table on you talkers who probably don't have a back bone anyway.
LET THE TRUTH PREVAIL...
We should not have been in that war in the first place and therefore there would be nothing to hide.
Since the war was wrongfully entered into all information should be exposed.
You bas______s don't care when they expose people online for arrests and non convictions of regular folks by placing their pictures online illegally, so F__— their secrets.
You want to protect a government that was operating under lies but won't stand up for innocent civilians who are arrested by this government and whose lives are ruined when the county or one of these websites seeks to humiliate people with booking photos who are arrested but, not found guilty.
That could be anyone of your sons on here.....
witchrunner was joking. Did you not read the last part? "then the prison guards should make sure the defendant has enough rope to hang himself, just in case everyone is wrong"
OH yeah, stop following the crowd and think for yourselves.
Yeah, he has no one to blame but himself but he did what's right and should not have been treated like that. Iraq was b-sh@%, I know I was there. We need more people like this in our government.
when you commit a treason's act, did he expect to be hailed as a hero whistle blower !!
You never put any personal of any type in harms way !!!!he should be convicted of espionage and treason and put away for ever to make an example out of the little traitor !!!
Nobody told him to join the Army it is still an All Volunteer Force and there are certain rules and regulations you have to abdide by maybe he forgot that! OIF/OND is not the issue here would you want to be on an OP with this worm?
"This is just some posturing by the defense. There is absolutely no way that they realistically expect the charges to dropped because of the conditions under which he was held in Quantico."
Actually, intentionally punitive or otherwise abusive conditions in pre-trial confinement can potentially be grounds to dismiss a case (although this is relatively rare) or reduce the punishment in the case of a conviction. This may be a long shot on both counts, but it is simply not true that "there is absolutely no way that they realistically expect the charges to dropped.
"There was nothing egregious about those conditions and they certainly would not warrant dismissing charges of treason!!!"
Two psychologists who worked at Quantico thought the conditions were egregious and they objected frequently to his treatment while he was there. A State Department spokesman thought they were egregious and he was forced to resign when he had the nerve to say that. A UN investigator seems to have found the conditions to be egregious as well.
I do however, agree that this shouldn't lead to the government dropping treason charges. That's because Manning hasn't been charged with treason, genius.
"…there was nothing in any of the documents that he released that pointed to any great wrongs being committed by our military."
I guess you think an official policy of not investigating clearcut cases in which Iraqi troops were torturing people is not a great wrong.
Will you stand up for the military when they come kicking in your door and demand your weapon? "Oh, they're just following rules and regulations." Yeah, it's already happened. The military is now training to eliminate those who would gather and speak out against the government. The civilian population. You didn't know that did you. You didn't know they kicked in doors after Hurricane Katrina and disarmed civilians. Blind obedience, get that tattooed on your forehead, worm.
Manning indiscriminately released 250,000 documents. In order to be classified as a whistleblower, he must of had intimate knowledge of every piece of info he released and it would have had to contain crimes. EVERY DOCUMENT. He never even read all the documents. He just dumped them. Furthermore, whether or not any of you feel that the info shouldn't have been classified, you may be right. But That wasn't for Manning to determine. He signed a military contract acknowledging the consequences if he ever disseminated classified info. Prosecution does NOT need to show that his actions caused harm. It is immeterial to the charges. His indiscriminate dissemination is all that matters. Furthermore, liberals feel any imprisonment is torture. Manning was never tortured. He made a comment that he was going to harm himself, so they took away his clothes and made him sleep in a paper outfit. Then, protocol demands he is shown to be alive every five minutes. So, guards checked, even during sleep time. That's where the liberals claim he was tortured. He should get his military trial. If he is found guilty, he should be Manning indiscriminately released 250,000 documents. In order to be classified as a whistleblower, he must of bad intimate knowledge of every piece of info he released and it would have had to contain crimes. EVERY DOCUMENT. Furthermore, whether or not any of you feel that the info shouldn't have been classified, you may be right. But That wasn't for Manning to determine. He signed a military contract acknowledging the consequences if he ever disseminated classified info. Prosecution does NOT need to show that his actions caused harm. It is immeterial to the charges. His indiscriminate dissemination is all that matters. Furthermore, liberals feel any imprisonment is torture. Manning was never tortured. He made a comment that he was going to harm himself, so they took away his clothes and made him sleep in a paper outfit. Then, protocol demands he is shown to be alive every five minutes. So, guards checked, even during sleep time. That's where the liberals claim he was tortured. He should get his military trial. If he is found guilty, he should be public ally executed. Hung by the neck, until dead. It should be televised, on pay per view. The proceeds should be forwarded to our wonder warriors. His body should be burned and his ashes strewn over Afghanistan. He should be publicly executed. Hung by the neck, until dead. It should be televised, on pay per view. The proceeds should be forwarded to our wounded warriors. His body should be burned and his ashes strewn over Afghanistan.
Mike-2598123, it's treasonous. You obviously don't have the capacity for what is truly treasonous. Those who decided to send us to Iraq are treasonous. Know what's treasonous in my eyes, losers like you have no idea that people like myself and many others weren't given the bulletproof plates for our vests. They send us to their war and don't even give us the basics to live. You're a worm.
1 Proud Infidel, he was letting the world know what those of us who served in Iraq already knew; Invading Iraq was a crime, pointless, and based on blatant lies. You're tired little tirade would be laughable except you speak from ignorance and that makes it sad to be you. You wouldn't feel the way you do if you lost friends over there and then found out the whole war was a farce. Tell your mommy to give you some warm milk so you can go back to sleep.
Sure for "Manning's Own Safety" he was stripped naked and forced to stand at attention 16 hours a day.....What Nonsense & Lies. They did it to Sweat Him by Torture!
Pressure Put on Manning to Implicate Assange......http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=8806
Only in NEO America can your "Torture a Person" for 3 years then put them on Trial....Now that the "Election" has passed they are being "allowed" to proceed forward.
Always remember America whatever happens "We The People" allowed POMPUS Obama to "Torture an American Citizen" without Trial against US & International Law.
Impeach Obama for Torture, the Cover Up of Murder of Americans and for running his very own Secret CIA Prison in Benghazi-Gate!
"Now I will tell you the answer to my question. It is this. The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power, pure power. What pure power means you will understand presently. We are different from the oligarchies of the past in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just around the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know what no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now you begin to understand me." ~ George Orwell, 1984
Joe, buddy, stop reading only those army manuals and learn to spell and write coherently.
This is the direct result of the cyber world. Just think about the fact that if all our satellites were to take a crap all at once, USA would be absolutely "dead" in the water. Nothing.
Be prepared for many, many more cyber infractions to come. It's already happening everywhere.
It's just too easy to hack anything anymore. It started out as a great thing (computers) back in the late 70' & 80's then you had some geeks start viruses just to prove they can to show the big-wigs that they need ant-virus software that they had for sale.
Most everything is now paperless. Your computer takes a crap (and if you didn't back it up) your @!$%# out of luck man.
I stood in line to buy x-mas gifts last year and the cashiers register broke down. He didn't know what to do so I pointed at this dusty as hell, old fashioned credit card thingy that you have to put the "triplicate" carbon copy paper into and it slides over your credit card to create a receipt just to get the hell out of there.
When I first told him what it was, he said, "I was wondering what that thing was". Heh heh.... Today they're born with plastic spoons in their mouths and don't know what to do outside of the cyber world.
In fact, they don't even teach cursive writing in school anymore. It's all done by text just as I am writing now.
In CA they teach cursive writing. Just FYI.
I'm sure that is what they had in mind, his own protection (wink wink). 8 years Marine Corps with an honorable discharge.
He looks like a weenie, they should of put him in G.P.
He looks like a weenie yes, but probably has more conviction and intestinal fortitude in his heart than your whole family possesses collectively. I'm an Iraq war veteran and I approve this message.
jd,
If you believe that then I feel sorry for you. I really do. He's nothing but a cock sucking puke.
Go ahead and tell me what DIRECT IMPACT Manning caused America by releasing the information he did. This ought to be good. And telling me "because Fox News said so" doesn't count. ;)
@ Jd - bull@!$%#! He's a spiteful, whiny little prick. He didn't' do this to right some wrong. He did for spite. He gets in an argument with his boyfriend and then to spite everyone he sends out these documents.
He's that bitch everyone hated in high school because they would run around telling secrets when someone made them mad.
He deserves a bullet to his head and nothing else.
patriot and hero Bradley Manning is what happens when you tell the truth about the New World order. Free Bradley Manning now and God bless him for his patriotism.
Patriotism, more like treason! May be you can be his pen pal he is a disgrace to the uniform.
The people who feel this way are the same idiots who are completely fine with not questioning what actually happened in Benghazi.
What a brainwashed troll you are.
I say hang him. He is a disgrace to the military and a traitor.
Spoken like a true True Believer! All akbar, ya'll!
I can't believe there are ACTUALLY people out here that post dribble like Ben (buncha numbers). If any Service Person was harmed, disadvantaged, or given hardship because of this traitor, then the death penalty should be the intended punishment.
N. Serling, you're just too dam comfortable accepting whatever you're told. You're a fine example of a lemming. The traitor is you for not seeking the truth and acting.
When did you serve over there?
Trying to defend someone that's a traitor and worm and took the oath get some help.
I was there when we invaded in 2003. And N. Serling, the oath we took didn't include forcing our way into a country that had no intentions of attacking us. Your blind obedience will be your downfall you poor, sad sheep. I'm getting help.
It's not for everyone! And you do need the help blind sheep no your the sad one I'm not blinded by rage
but I have do have the deceny to admit what this guy did was wrong and the service would be better without him Get Help.
You're sad reply is "It's not for everyone?" You're not even worth another keystroke.
Yeah that's my reply It's not for everyone seriously get some help in the meantime just take your meds and go to sleep!
I'm waiting for your vast wealth of knowledge on how his releasing the information directly impacted America or its troops. You haven't answered that yet. Show us you actually speak based on personal knowledge that you've discovered. I'm starting to think you just don't know what you're doing here.
Why are standing up for this worm? That's your right.
Yes I don't have the slightest damn clue doesn't mean that didn't happen. Or that Info may have fell into the wrong hands there is so much that happens over there that does not get reported it still does not excuse what he has done. Like I said earlier maybe you would have like have him or his type or an OP or on a 4 man stack. It's okay to admit you don't know everything!
And it's your right to live in ignorance. What he did was for YOUR benefit. To enlighten you and show you the truth of what was really happening in Iraq. I am telling you and anyone willing to listen some of the same things he showed you by releasing those documents. All insults aside, instead of persecuting Manning, take a look at the REAL crimes our government committed. Look for the truth Serling.
He didn't nothing for my benefit! I don't care how you feel about Iraq you served there your are entitled to your beliefs. I served there also I know what I did there and know how @!$%#ty it was! I don't make excuses for what I did there because it was survival I know many times the Chain of Command didn't give a damn about me or my Rifle Platoon. All the things that go on over there to believe them you would have had to been there and no ONE! that has never served or been otherwise will tell what went on over there. Maybe he shouldn't have joined to me he is a worm and is a disgrace to the uniform! I'm not living in Ignorance maybe you ARE! I've made peace with my demons maybe you should too.
You absolutely are being ignorant. You said yourself that YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT EFFECT HIS RELEASING THOSE DOCUMENTS HAD ON AMERICA OR THE TROOPS OVER THERE yet you point the finger at him and call him a traitor. You have opened your mouth yet you say nothing. Good thing is, you're not alone. You'll make peace with your demons when you can quit lying to yourself.
All those documents he leaked and nobody over there got rolled up behind it I find it hard to believe!!! And yes his behavior was treacherous and I call him a @!$%#ing Traitor and scum of the Earth! I'm not lying to myself I see a guy that got caught red handed and is dealing with the consequences if you see something else that's on you. But I'm not lying to myself why don't you wake up and see him for what he is.
You are making judgements because you "find it hard to believe." Wow, I just cannot relate to your ignorance. This discussion is over.
Your the ignorant one and blinded by rage don't let me keep you from doing better things.
Please, please put him in with the general population. I'm sure those in prison even have more honor than this traitor. He'd be treated like a child molester, maybe worse.
thick as a mud post and just slightly smarter.
This is coming from someone who is clearly delusional. Laughable.
If he does his time in Leavenworth, he will be with the other military prisoners there, seperate from the civilian prisoners, none of whom have much respect for the military or politicians.
He'll go in as a Tight End, and come out as a Wide Receiver. Bwahahahahahahahaha!
So humanitarian of the USA to throw Manning in a max prison and torture him for his safety. And you thought your government had no concern for its citizens. Reminiscent of the wonderful humanitarian Christians torturing and executing native Indians in order to "save" them.
Or Islamic nations who murder anyone who speaks out against the atrocities of Islam that occur on a daily basis.
Sunshiney, the Christians that did al that torturing and executing are long dead. What's that got to do with anything? What you SHOULD have cited was those wacko muslims that behead innocent civilians and US Service personnel or the thousands of people the muslims kill in God's name. That what you ment?
Still, that's a far cry from keeping someone in a cell all day...
Manning did what was right. This government sent us to a false war and we became the terrorists in Iraq. I was there and I take responsibility for that. Now that I have awoken, i'll let you little cowards whose bravest moment was most likely talking back to your parents know that you'd better wake up yesterday. Don't let fox news and other mainstream media dictate your pathetic decisions and sheeple way of thinking. We had no business being there, Bradley Manning had the information the American public should have been privy to in the first place, and he shared it at the cost of his freedom. Go ahead and stick up for the pencil pushers who decided the American public didn't have the right to see pictures of the flag draped coffins returning home. Sad sheeple, WAKE UP.
Bradley Manning committed treason to tell us what we already knew... Seriously... anyone with a few brain cells to rub together had it figured out after the first 3 months that the "weapns of mass destruction" did not exist and tht Mr Bush began the war because Mr Bush needed to line the pockets of his defense contractor buddies... And, let's not forget all that oil just going to waste in the hands of the Iraqui officials. What Manning did was the equivalent of suicide. that is just plain stupid... Oh well, no cure for stupid like a military firing squad.
Take the tinfoil hat off.
What kind of hat are YOU wearing in your avatar pic?
This sorry excuse for a human being deserves the rope.
Manning is already a hero, and his punishment will only further martyr him. People who believe in the publics right to know about government wrong-doing, and other less than savory activity, will not change their view. You either see him as a hero, or a villian.
I see him as a hero, because he exposed wrong doing and stuff that should have come out. Stuff that would have disappeared otherwise. We need more Bradley Mannings in the world.
A hero to who? You? The mouse in your pocket? He knew the rules when he joined the Army. He broke the rules. He will be punished for that. That's the way things work in the military. I have no sympathy for this narcissistic clown or his whining supporters. He asked for and deserves whatever punishment comes his way. Nothing you or your fellow weenies say or do will alter that outcome, and if you don't like it, then tough noogies.
Like Senator Lindsey Graham said yesterday, the military needs to keep the ability to put US citizens in military jail without charges or proof indefinitely if the government thinks they are supporting any type of terror organization until all threats to the USA are eliminated (which he agreed would probably be NEVER). This is exactly the ype of 'my country right or wrong', 'the end justifies the means' thinking that led the Germans down the path to supporting the gas chambers - after all, the Jews were traitors, weren't they?
Absolutely disgraceful that anyone thinks this guy is anything other than a dirtball. I agree with most of the comments below, and also the commentator at aacowired.
Absolutely disgraceful that anyone thinks this guy is anything other than a dirtball. I agree with most of the comments below, and also the commentator at aacowired.
...OK folks, at the moment the issue is not if he is guilty...it is the conditions of his original confinement. He evidenced suicidal behavior... plus other strange actions, including licking the bars of his cell (which his attys claim was done while "sleepwalking...") Given the charges against him, he certainly could not be allowed in the general population...
...Had he been "shanked" while with other prisoners... or had he hanged himself under less stringent safeguards... what would his attys be howling at the world now? Yup...
the bastard committed treason for profit. case closed.
treason is punishable by death. case closed.
thank you for your time
How did he make any money out of it, apparently he gave the documents to Wikileaks, he didn't get paid?
If you are selling military secrets...you are not a savior or martyr.. you are a traitor. We hold our military personnel to a higher code of conduct.... they take an oath. If his lawyers want to whine because he wasn't given the comforts of home...oh well. It is military justice.
Hopefully he just commits suicide.
It's better to be dead than to spend life in a small room. It's vulgarly disgusting to read "keeping him confined "for his own safety". If your locked away, you're already as good as dead.
There is no F***ing point in keeping someone locked in a cell, if you want them dead then if they kill themselves they will have taken care of it for you, If you intend on keeping them locked up forever (as much of a waste of money and resources that would be) then just let them kill themselves.
This a$$hole must of thought WikiLeaks and friends were going to come and save his behind with lots of money, lawyers, fame and friends.... what an idiot he turned out to really be !!!!
He, an E-3, is clean shaven and in proper uniform but they can't get that dirt bag Hassan, an O-4, to do the same.