Alleged kidnapper: I 'didn't mean' to kill baby, grandma

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PHILADELPHIA -- The man charged in the murder of a baby and her grandmother during a botched kidnapping and ransom scheme claimed that he killed both victims by accident, according to video released during his court appearance Wednesday.

Raghunandan Yandamuri, 26, is accused of murdering 10-month-old Saanvi Venna and her grandmother, Satyavathi Venna, 61, last month. It happened on Oct. 22, at an apartment complex in Upper Merion where both the Venna family and Yandamuri, a family friend, lived.

Police believe Yandamuri went to the apartment with the intention of kidnapping Saanvi and holding her for ransom. But police say Satyavathi, who was babysitting the child, fought for her granddaughter and was fatally stabbed by Yandamuri.

On Oct. 26, the baby's body was found in the basement of the apartment building and Yandamuri was arrested. Police say they also found a ransom note from Yandamuri demanding $50,000.

'Didn't mean to kill anyone'
On Wednesday, Yandamuri appeared in court for a preliminary hearing. During the hearing, a 23-minute video confession was played for the court, according to NBC10's Deanna Durante.

In the video, Yandamuri told police he "accidentally" slit Satyavathi Venna's throat and that he "didn't mean to kill anyone." The video also showed him confessing to stuffing a handkerchief in the baby's mouth and wrapping a towel around her head when she wouldn't stop crying.

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Yandamuri said in the video that he put the baby in a suitcase, escaped via a fire escape and sneaked into the basement of another apartment building.

Yandamuri also told police that when he took Saanvi out of the suitcase the towel was still wrapped around her face and she was unconscious. He said he removed the towel and handkerchief, splashed water on her and left her in the basement while he returned home, took a shower and went to work.

He also told police he went back to the basement around 3:30 p.m. with a bottle of milk for the girl but that she was already dead.

Yandamuri's defense attorney argued in court that since his client did not mean to kill anyone, first-degree murder should be taken off the table. Prosecutors disagreed, citing Yandamuri's ransom note as evidence against the attorney's claim.

According to prosecutors, 10 copies of the ransom note were left in the apartment of the Venna family with several references that if they didn't bring $50,000 by 8 p.m. that night that the baby would be killed. Prosecutors say that showed there was intention and premeditation for murder. The judge agreed with the prosecutors and ordered that Yandamuri stand trial on charges of first-degree murder, kidnapping, robbery, theft and abuse of corpse.   

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These are the times I would not mind a bit of "cruel and unusual" punishment.

Maybe we should accidentally hang you by your balls and stuff your mouth with a handkerchief.

  • 182 votes
#1 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 6:57 AM EST

Maybe we should accidentally hang you by your balls and stuff your mouth with a handkerchief

Then pour gasoline on him and light him up. All of this of course we will accidentally do on purpose in a public square.

  • 106 votes
#1.1 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:30 AM EST

Sorry Coral we can not do that..... Instead we have to support this Scum Bag and the Legal Process..... After all otherwise a lot of people will not have employment..... Capital Punishment means nothing unless carried out in a timely manner.....

  • 29 votes
#1.2 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:30 AM EST

Don't worry. I have a feeling somebody will "accidentally" shank him after he's in prison.

  • 70 votes
#1.3 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:36 AM EST

Oh boy are they going to have a good time with him in prison. WTF is wrong with some people?!

We're going to see a lot more things like this happening with the economy going downhill. Some people will resort to murder etc... when they're flat broke and starving. Unfortunately it's human nature to survive by almost any means.

This was no accident. He got busted and all he can say is it was an "accident"! Yeah, right M-F'r...

This is also why defense lawyers are on hit lists. His lawyer actually tried to get 1st degree murder dropped because it was a F'n accident. Ugh... You know as well as I do that it wouldn't fly. F'n scumbag.........

  • 66 votes
#1.4 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:41 AM EST

I do not know about the law in PA where this happened, but in CA where I live whether he intended to kill the people or not does not make in bit of difference. The fact that the death occurred during the commission of the felony kidnapping means he can be charged with first degree murder - It is called the felony murder rule. I am not sure if all states allow for first degree murder charges under the felony murder rule, but in every state he would be guilty of second degree murder as a minimum. I believe that many states make a distinction regarding the severity underlying felony in the felony murder rule and because of the seriousness of the felony of kidnapping to start with the charge of first degree murder would be allowed. If this guy is convicted it is possible that he may face the death penalty, although even if he is sentenced to death it is not likely that the sentence will ever be carried out. Since reinstating the death penalty in 1974, PA has only executed 3 people despite the fact that they have over 1000 people on death row in the state. I think that anyone who murders a helpless child should be executed but it is far more likely that this guy will end up serving life without parole. In any case, he will have a very tough time in prison as even the worst prisoners take a very dim view of someone who hurts a child, particularly an infant.

  • 35 votes
#1.5 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:52 AM EST

OH Guy, I have to agree with Coral . Like this person said and the other comments, this stupid idiot deserves to suffer quite a bit and they couldnt of said it better. Why support someone who does this kind of act. would you support them by your taxes if it were your family member that this happen to?? after we set him on fire, parade him down the street so people can see what willl happen to the next one that does this.

  • 19 votes
#1.6 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:56 AM EST

I think life without the possibility of parole is the worst punishment. Executing him and he suffers for a few minutes. Prison and he suffers for the rest of his life.

  • 18 votes
#1.7 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:56 AM EST

Low life! Now the state gets to support him.

Was 50k worth it? Enjoy the rest of your miserable life!

  • 14 votes
#1.8 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:06 AM EST

Oops. We accidentally convicted you, shackled you, sent you to prison, let all the other inmates know what you did and then left you unattended in the general population. Sooo-rrrry.

  • 58 votes
#1.9 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:09 AM EST

He told a judge he is not a U.S. citizen and was given time to make a private call to the Indian consulate.

Satyavathi Venna arrived from India in July and was scheduled to return home in January.

Convenient the MSN left this part out of the story! How does he work?

http://news.yahoo.com/da-friend-planned-50k-kidnapping-baby-died-064717894.html

  • 28 votes
#1.10 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:21 AM EST

They are going to paint an arrow on your cell floor...not to point to Mecca to pray, but to point to you so others in prison can ram your butt everyday!

  • 8 votes
#1.11 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:30 AM EST

"Maybe we should accidentally hang you by your balls and stuff your mouth with a handkerchief"

"Then pour gasoline on him and light him up. All of this of course we will accidentally do on purpose in a public square."

"after we set him on fire, parade him down the street "

Comments on stories like this make me sick. I don't know what's worse, a guy who commits a couple of murders, or a constant lynch mob sitting at their computers, salivating at the chance to comment on what kind of public torture they would get off on.

  • 28 votes
#1.12 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:31 AM EST

I would slit his throat slowly and let him bleed to death.

  • 10 votes
#1.13 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:37 AM EST

@MDP,

He has confessed to it. The only reason he is saying it was an accident is to try and avoid the death penalty. He needs to be taken out back and shot. Noone kills two people with a knife on accident. He's a sick pos and needs to be taken off this planet.

  • 28 votes
#1.14 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:44 AM EST

"It was an accident"

Oh okay.

Then, maybe your soon to be cellmate named Bruno will have an "accident" with you and rid the world of you when he's done doinkiing you.

  • 11 votes
#1.15 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:45 AM EST

Oh he accidentally slit the baby's throat and didn't meant to kill anybody. Just let him go- he learned his lessons.

  • 7 votes
#1.16 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:00 AM EST

Anyone convicted of Killing a child should get the death penalty. Period. It should be made a federal crime.

And none of this waiting 15yrs and appeals over an over. 6mos. ONE appeal for mercy, which will be denied. Then the needle.

  • 21 votes
#1.17 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:17 AM EST

Since he seems to be so "accident" prone, he should be forced to perform every stunt ever done on the show Jackass back to back in nothing but a pair of shorts and flip-flops.

  • 4 votes
#1.18 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:25 AM EST

Jail does not have people who dispense justice. They are like minded individuals. If the justice system worked there would not be so many repeat offenders, some even for murder and rape. No doubt he did it; no need for trial. Execute him within 2 weeks, if not sooner. In his country they would hang him.

MDP928: There should be no sympathy for the devil.

  • 19 votes
#1.19 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:28 AM EST

He *Accidentally Slit* the *Grandmother's* throat and Accidentally *suffocated* the baby. Might want to get it straight before going off on him.

"Yandamuri told police he "accidentally" slit Satyavathi Venna's throat"

This guy needs the death penalty with no appeals... He's confessed as far as I'm concerned. The Trial is only going to be to determine the severity of the penalty now.

  • 16 votes
#1.20 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:29 AM EST

Hang the bastard. And be quick about it.

  • 10 votes
#1.21 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:31 AM EST

You know, MDP, none of these people would actually DO the things they post about. Do you not understand how this type of crime horrifies people to the point they would post about how this man should be hurt as well?

What of the little baby girl, who was ripped from her grandmother's arms and stuffed in a suitcase? The harming of an innocent child is so very unjust. She did not deserve to be taken from her loving home and she did not deserve the treatment she received in the last hours of her short life. And now her parents must forever live with the memories of how their little baby girl was manhandled and KILLED.

He was a family "friend" and a grown man who should know the difference between right and wrong. He has betrayed that family and cruelly destroyed their lives. What he did was pure evil and I can understand people reacting the way they have. What was said here is no different than the comments we make to each other every day in reaction to this type of story.

  • 30 votes
#1.22 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:40 AM EST

Even if there's the SLIMMEST of possibilities that he didn't mean to kill anyone, and the deaths were accidental, what jury in their right mind would believe it?!?

I sure as he!! don't!

You F'd up man. You're gonna have to pay for it. DEARLY, I hope.

  • 8 votes
#1.23 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:49 AM EST

How about using him as a mine detector? A special on shark week; Science experiment, ending badly of course.

  • 10 votes
#1.24 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:50 AM EST

So this killer of a child says it was an accident, and the killer of the two children in New York... the nanny who slashed the throats of the young ones in her care... wanted the press barred from her arraignment because she was too sick and "pathetic" to be seen. Time to pity the killers?

Incidentally, MSNBC, the Post has had two stories for the past two days about the nanny who killed those babies... why has there been no mention of it here?

  • 11 votes
#1.25 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:06 AM EST

Mike277, he is not a muslim

  • 7 votes
#1.26 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:13 AM EST

If this had happened in Texas, we'd "take care of him" in no time flat.

Doctor: "Needle, please".....

  • 13 votes
#1.27 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:21 AM EST

Mike277, he is from INDIA.

Indians are mostly HINDU.

Get your prejudices straight!

  • 17 votes
#1.28 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:35 AM EST

Just shoot these idiots in the head. Who really gives a fu(k about this guy now?

He has proven his life is worth nothing. The world has no use for him.

  • 8 votes
#1.29 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:50 AM EST

This man's claim of accidental murder is detestable. I literally want to vomit. The poor woman and child suffered horribly as they died. This man deserves no mercy from society and the laws here.

  • 16 votes
#1.30 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:51 AM EST

Have U seen The Green Mile?

Make sure 2 "accidentally" give him a dry sponge.

  • 7 votes
#1.31 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:52 AM EST

Ever since Casey Anthony, it's open season on children.

Hell, the mother of the child that fell into the wild dog den is not going to even charged with criminal neglect....nothing, nada, no charges.

  • 11 votes
#1.32 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:53 AM EST

@the deb, bob: Yeah, those responses don't address anything I said. No one is debating sympathy or who is appalled by what. Most people are appalled by murder and think capital punishment is fitting. Being aware of the unfairness of murder doesn't justify some peoples' fantasy of watching someone sodomized, drawn, quartered and burned alive. "But, but MY sick violent fantasy is acceptable because HE was sick and violent first!" Please.

  • 8 votes
#1.33 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:04 AM EST

Tina-

I didn't see where it mentioned his religion ? Good point about majority Hindu, there are also Muslims, Sikhs, Budists, Christians and other religions, but we're not really discussing some very religious are we ?

These types of crimes against women and children occur much more frequently in countries like India than are reported in the media. Countries like India have a history of covering up these crimes, especially when committed by so called "upstanding" male members of a local society.

There are many countries where abuse against women and children is the norm: India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, UAE, Russia, ......but some are our allies we cry ??!! Yes, that is the sad truth, and the list goes on and on, also many African nations are guilty of the same crimes, and most of these crimes go unreported, as anyone reporting such crimes takes a big risk and is in danger themselves.

The death penalty doesn't solve anything, and life in prison is a much worse sentence, in my opinion.

  • 4 votes
#1.34 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:08 AM EST

An eye for an eye. I too believe that it has been open season for children for too long! I think that cases like this should go to the State of occurence and let the people decide death or life in prison, since it is our money that will support him in prison. Lets avoid the debt and cases where people are guilty without doubt and also confess the people should be able to decide his fate. I bet crimes would be reduced and our prisons would have space for the people that have commited non violent crimes.

  • 6 votes
#1.35 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:33 AM EST

I hate when that happens and I "accidentally" kill 2 people. Good grief! So tragic.

  • 5 votes
#1.36 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:38 AM EST

Don't mind these people, MDP928, they're just all good "Christians," so they believe in meting out as much retribution as possible to criminals.

No one is defending this psychopath or his heinous crimes. I'm certainly not. He should prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Penalties are already quite harsh in the U.S. compared with other modern, industrialized countries, so he will certainly pay for his crimes.

But why is there always such vindictiveness running through comments on this site to stories about these and lesser crimes?

  • 3 votes
#1.37 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:54 AM EST
Comment author avatarBig Bob-1107869Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

This scumbag is another illegal in this country, yet the libs and obama LOVE his kind! They vote Demoncrap! It's time to forcibly round up every illegal in this country and instantly deport their illegal asses. If they resist, execute them on the spot!

  • 7 votes
#1.38 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:56 AM EST

Otto mentioned that the death penalty does not solve anything. I have a different viewpoint. The death penalty permanently solves his problem. It also brings resolution to the grieving family.

  • 11 votes
#1.39 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:10 PM EST

So let me get this straight, when people who are raised as christians, even if they don't follow it anymore once they grow up, is always considered a christian by the media and in turn , that's when the liberals on MSNBC like to backlash against christians in general.

But this guy (who was probably raised as a hindu or a muslim) is getting better treatment right now in terms of religious liberty by the Press. To them it is just considered a kidnapping and NOTHING MORE.

Talk about hypocrisy! Where is the "general hate" towards other religions that so many leftist people like to compare to when they belittle christianity. Or are they saying that only christians are subject to the hypocrisy?

This is why news stories from MSNBC don't matter anymore.

  • 6 votes
#1.40 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:17 PM EST

Why aren't they arresting his wife who seems to be a coconspirator with him.

  • 5 votes
#1.41 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:21 PM EST
Comment author avatarShaking my head-2479300Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

MSN forgot to say he wasn't a citizen and was given a call to the Indian consulate. KEEP up the importing of people to take AMerican jobs Obama, when the economy goes south instead of going home, this is what happens.

  • 8 votes
#1.42 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:26 PM EST

I say he should be "accidentally" killed before trial.

  • 7 votes
#1.43 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:27 PM EST

Some Corrections Officer needs to inform the inmates of what this animal did, then "forget" him in general population for a couple of hours...

  • 7 votes
#1.44 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:49 PM EST

He told a judge he is not a U.S. citizen and was given time to make a private call to the Indian consulate.

Satyavathi Venna arrived from India in July and was scheduled to return home in January.

--------------------------------------------------

Convenient the MSN left this part out of the story! How does he work?

http://news.yahoo.com/da-friend-planned-50k-kidnapping-baby-died-064717894.html

I am also not a citizen, and am working (and living here) legally. You don't HAVE to be a citizen to work. Since what you quoted reads as if he came here legally for a set amount of time, which was 6 months when a tourist visa is for only 90 days, then I would suggest he was most likely on a work visa.

Why you decided to focus on that particular part of this story is more interesting, to me. Particularly when it seems you know naff all about immigration and different types of visa's in the US.

  • 4 votes
#1.45 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:49 PM EST

Shaking my head-2479300

MSN forgot to say he wasn't a citizen and was given a call to the Indian consulate. KEEP up the importing of people to take AMerican jobs Obama, when the economy goes south instead of going home, this is what happens.

Big Bob-1107869

This scumbag is another illegal in this country, yet the libs and obama LOVE his kind! They vote Demoncrap! It's time to forcibly round up every illegal in this country and instantly deport their illegal asses. If they resist, execute them on the spot!

And all others who don't know a thing about immigration yet spew ignorance .The FACT that he is not a U.S. CITIZEN does not mean He is illegal immigrant!! you don't have to be an American citizen to be able to work in the U.S. . Lots of immigrants have work permit.

From the article, it mentioned nothing about this criminal working. From other comments on here, it seems like the grandma was the one working 'illegally'. But even in that situation as babysitting, in other cultures, grandmas would never CHARGE a fee to babysit their own grandchild.So if she is doing so voluntarily then there's nothing illegal about it.If she is getting paid then it is illegal.

It's sad that some people fume about the idea of foreigner here but you do not know a thing about immigration issues and how many different types of situations involved.

Get educated before you spew your ignorance on the internet because you infect others and they are indelible!!!

  • 4 votes
#1.46 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:59 PM EST

This scumbag is another illegal in this country, yet the libs and obama LOVE his kind!

Got any proof he's illegal, or are you just going off the fact he is foreign?

  • 6 votes
#1.47 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:03 PM EST

Shaking My Head - would you like me to give up my job so an american citizen could have it instead? It will mean my american wife and my american daughter having to struggle on 1 paycheck.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

  • 2 votes
#1.48 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:08 PM EST

Unhappy - you're tin-foil hat is crooked, better adjust it before leftist thoughts start to infiltrate your brain and make you think all christians are evil!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 3 votes
#1.49 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:10 PM EST

he's from india...we should just send him home...what he did was wrong...he's just not accustomed...to acting like a human...

  • 3 votes
#1.50 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:15 PM EST

Big Bob-1107869

This scumbag is another illegal in this country, yet the libs and obama LOVE his kind! They vote Demoncrap! It's time to forcibly round up every illegal in this country and instantly deport their illegal asses. If they resist, execute them on the spot!

And yet people like you call Obama a Nazi or socialist? Sounds like you would fit right in with Nazi Germany; rounding up ethnic minorities you blame for the down fall of your country and deporting or executing them, sounds very familiar. Also how do you know he is illegal? All was said is he is not a U.S. citizen; he is more likely here on a student visa. And judging from your comment you should be happy that he slit the grandma's throat since she too is not a U.S. citizen but simply visiting from India, so score one for your team.

No doubt this guy is a pos and will get what’s coming to him. And no doubt our criminal justice system is far from perfect, but guilty until proven innocent is as American as apple pie or the Constitution, it's what separates us from other sh*t holes around the world. You don't get to pick and choose when to allow the criminal justice system to work. I love how the people who won't shut up about how they love America and the Constitution are so quick to throw them both in the dumpster whenever it is convenient for them.

  • 7 votes
#1.51 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:34 PM EST

Big Bob & Others: Unless you are a native American Indian, your ancestors could have illegally entered this country at some point in time like many did when this was a young country. So, show me your ancestry and please do tell me what fool of a president let your lineage in without a pass. Honestly, get over your wingnut hatred and stop blaming every news topic as a result of the liberal administration.

Now back to the subject: This guy will get the death penalty or life. If he is lucky he will be in solitary confinement before he is executed. If he is given life in prison, it will be a short one. If there is one thing inmates detest are guys who kill their grandma's, mama's and babies.

  • 5 votes
#1.52 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:51 PM EST

I say accidently drop him off at the South Pole with cooler filled with bottled water and ice (who'd want anyone to accuse us of making him drink hot water?) and let him make his way to wherever he wants from there.

  • 1 vote
#1.53 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:04 PM EST

He should get 2 to the chest and 1 to the head, screw this life without parole thing. Taking the baby's life , and grandma's should warrant him swift justice.

  • 2 votes
#1.54 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:19 PM EST

@MDP928

"I don't know what's worse: taking jabs at a murder using mean comments online or taking jabs at grandma's throat using a blade."

    #1.55 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:19 PM EST

    "You know, MDP, none of these people would actually DO the things they post about."

    Yes we would! Go after my child and see if I let justice takes it's course...or if the cops carry away your bloody corpse. Do you two understand how horrendous his crime was to even be judging the people that would like to see this guy removed from existance? Let me pull the trigger, switch, lever or whatever...I'd be glad to do it!

    • 1 vote
    #1.56 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:41 PM EST

    and he is NOT a u.s. citizen yet he has a job, i know american citizens who do not have a job but this low life killer can come to this country and get a job and kill a baby and an old lady.

    something is wrong in this country. if you're not hispanic this country will welcome you with open arms.

    • 2 votes
    #1.57 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:44 PM EST

    It is the rage within. He thought in the beginning to do one thing but the (devilish) rage within had the control. He would not have went to kidnap someone if the rage had not already been there.

    Ayaan Ali called it the "Muslim Rage". Salman Rushdie would agree. But it is all over the place and in all classes and groups of people; it is just that Islam creates such a boiling pot that the rage becomes so extreme.

    • 1 vote
    #1.58 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:16 PM EST

    @ Dan542129 - Actually, I'm Jewish. Nice assumption, though. Why is there such vindictiveness, you ask? Look around next time you are out and about, take notice of any babies you observe in their caregivers arms, who are too small to even walk yet, and remember the details of this news story. See if it doesn't stir any sort of negative emotion in you. Babies are sweet and innocent and have no choice but to trust those around them, and this poor baby girl was terrorized.

    @DSK67 - I agree, harm my child and you'll be lucky if the cops find you before I do. Did you read my whole post, though? I'm afraid you seem to have missed my point. While I'd LOVE to see horrible things happen to this cretin, I'm not about to use that as a reason to commit any crimes myself against him and I don't judge ANYONE for the things they say in reaction to this story, unlike MDP. I'm also fairly confident most of these posters are decent people who are simply shocked and horrified.

    What we want to do to this POS and what we know is the right and legal thing to do are two different things. People are expressing their feelings, and I see nothing wrong with using a comment thread as their outlet.

      #1.59 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:20 PM EST

      I still say people that commit crimes like this should be hung by their feet in a cage with a lion or tiger. I think people would think twice about doing something like this.

        #1.60 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:14 PM EST

        HE IS NOT A MUSLIM!

        What part of that don't people understand?

        And to all you xenophobics out there: This country is nothing but immigrants.

        Get over your damned selves.

        • 1 vote
        #1.61 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:33 PM EST

        ninnafaye,

        Huh? Did you read some of the responses? Not being a U.S. citizen does NOT mean he is here illegally. And you want to tell me in all of U.S. history there was never a U.S. citizen that killed a baby and a grandma? Before I became a U.S. citizen I was a legal resident, worked my a$$ off to support me and my daughter. I also have been without a job being a U.S. citizen. Unless you are a native American you are also of immigration heritage, so zip it. (And if you are native American I apologize and zip it) This was a horrible crime and immigration, religion, politics and having to survive has nothing to do with it. He is a worthless P.O.S. not fit for society that needs to be eliminated.

        • 1 vote
        #1.62 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:16 AM EST
        Reply

        He should burn at the stake.

        • 6 votes
        Reply#2 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:01 AM EST

        Good God lady!!

          #2.1 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:18 AM EST

          waste of good wood. find a naval vessel heading to where ever and have em drop him off half way.

          • 17 votes
          #2.2 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:22 AM EST

          Oh no! One of the officers accidentally discharged a bullet into his face!

          • 9 votes
          #2.3 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:58 AM EST

          What, and accidentally give some poor innocent shark indigestion? Besides Scooter,
          DO-DO floats, unless a cinderblock is secured to his junk box first. Better yet, he could be
          jettisoned off the bow of the oldest ship they can find first; and then the ship could accidentally
          float over him.

          I extend profound sympathies for the family who lost both the Mom and Baby.

          • 9 votes
          #2.4 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:52 AM EST

          Accidental fire arm discharge would be nice.. just walk him across the range.

            #2.5 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:20 PM EST
            Reply

            How does one "accidentally slit a throat"? He obviously went to their home to inflict harm. There was no accident here. What did he think was going to happen? Fry the monster...slowly. By the way, the title of this article is misleading. He slit the grandmother's throat and suffocated the baby.

            • 17 votes
            Reply#3 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:06 AM EST

            fry him? you got a skillet that big?

            • 7 votes
            #3.1 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:24 AM EST

            Yes

            • 12 votes
            #3.2 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:31 AM EST

            IA.ScooterTramp

            fry him? you got a skillet that big?

            Start with the toes and work your way up.

            • 5 votes
            #3.3 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:36 AM EST

            GM Bill and Scooter

            Seems no punishment would fit that crime! However, you both have some great ideas!

            fry him? you got a skillet that big?

            waste of good wood. find a naval vessel heading to where ever and have em drop him off half way.

            Keep up the creative thinking, its awesome!

            • 5 votes
            #3.4 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:44 AM EST
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            I "accidentally" slit the throat on a ten month old baby. What? Was the baby putting up too much of a fight for you? Did you accidentally stab the grandmother as well? Did you think that she would just give up the baby? Did you think the baby was going to be left alone? Yeah, every inmate who says "I am innocent" is now laughing at you. Just wait until the inmates "accidentally" do things to you. I am sure you will be fine with it as long as they apologize...right?

            • 9 votes
            Reply#4 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:08 AM EST

            Did you read the article? He slit the grandmother's throat & suffocated the baby.

            • 9 votes
            #4.1 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:27 AM EST

            Hey Sunshine,

            They changed the story headline. It started out this morning saying he didn't mean to slit the 10 mos. old baby's throat and now it doesn't say that.

            MSNBC has a way of getting your attention then changing the story. Don't know why but my best guess would be that they don't have enough info but want to get the story out and update it (unannounced to us) when they get better information. Yeah, it drives me nuts man.

            Have a nice day....

            • 9 votes
            #4.2 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:18 AM EST
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            One sick individual...capital punishment is too good for him. He needs to spend the rest of his life in America's hell hole prisons taking it in the butt.

            • 4 votes
            Reply#5 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:09 AM EST

            I think that American prison is too good for this one. Send him to Iran or China for an extended stay.

            • 9 votes
            #5.1 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:03 AM EST

            Mexican prison.

            They REALLY hate baby-killers in Mexico.

            • 5 votes
            #5.2 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:55 AM EST

            I don't think that the prison population would give him the pleasure of their carnal company. If there is one thing inmates detest are grandma, mama and baby killers. The majority of them know that some things are taboo and killing a mama and baby is one of them. I think he will not last long in the general prison population.

              #5.3 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:01 PM EST
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              The headline makes no sense. Nowhere in the story does it mention slitting the infants throat ? Did the reporter read their own story ? There should be at least some attempt to get the facts correct, even on the internet !

              • 7 votes
              Reply#6 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:15 AM EST

              Pay attention to the facts: read the article in full on MSN, then research it on the internet elsewhere. I have recently began to think that MSN is not good for full reporting of all of the facts.

              Two human beings are dead because of the killer's mental insuffiencies.

              I pray for the rest of the family and friends affected by this travesty ... and I know that the grandmother and baby are in God's safe and healing arms now.

              As for the punishment doled out to that individual, it needs to be just as haneous and nasty as he was to his victims.

              • 3 votes
              #6.1 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:13 PM EST

              Pay attention...see the other link : more from"nbcphiladelphia.com

              it's on all of their articles...geesh! You people aren't so bright.

                #6.2 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:34 PM EST
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                Just slit that bastards throat, gag him and wrap a towel around his head and leave him to die. His attorney is an A**hole too.

                • 10 votes
                Reply#7 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:15 AM EST

                While I agree there shouldn't even be a trial, he admitted to the crime. It's the way our justice system works that he is guaranteed a lawyer. Said lawyer is bound by law to do anything he or she possibly can to help even the obviously guilty get away with the crime. If they don't do said job they face not only disbarment but also jail for contempt of court. Until our Justice system changes I have a little bit of a issue trying to put everything on this lawyer that got handed a garbage case.

                • 4 votes
                #7.1 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:02 PM EST

                Since this guy is not a celebrity, I don't think the public defender will go out of his way to get this guy off. Would you?

                  #7.2 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:05 PM EST
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                  Yeah right. I accidentally kidnapped and killed them I am only here by accident. That's why I am here before you Judge and I am pleading "Not Guilty" and that is NO accident. Turn this monster of a human lights out!

                  • 5 votes
                  Reply#8 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:16 AM EST

                  Kill him the same way he did to that poor baby and the grandmother. Sick, sick, sick!!!!!"Accidentally slit the throat" Give me a break! Let's just "accidentally" slit his throat too.

                  • 6 votes
                  Reply#9 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:17 AM EST

                  I have to agree with Ron, capitol punishment is too good! He needs to suffer many years in prison. Yeah I know it costs thousands every year to house them but this is one time I think it would be worth the money to know he's suffering. Besides he probably won't live long in general population with some thugs!

                  • 5 votes
                  Reply#10 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:24 AM EST

                  packinp: "Yeah I know it costs thousands every year to house them but"

                  Actually, it costs a lot more to kill them.

                  • 2 votes
                  #10.1 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:44 AM EST

                  Convict cut arms of 14yr.old girl, went to prison got out in ten years killed again. Fl. guy fed 11yr. old little girl to alligator after he killed her mother. Both those guys have, and do quite well in prison. It cost because we have a for profit system of justice. The more money spent the better the outcome. It is a short walk from cell to tall tree. Rope can't be more than 20 bucks.

                  • 7 votes
                  #10.2 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:00 AM EST

                  It costs because they have Cable TV, Weight rooms and all other forms of comfort in prison. Heck the new prison they just built about a hour north of here even had carpeting in the cells. This is prison not a holiday inn express.

                  • 5 votes
                  #10.3 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:05 PM EST
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                  He went into that home armed with a knife with the intent of kidnapping the child. If he didn't mean to kill anyone, then why was he armed???

                  Sorry...you murdered a woman trying to protect her grandchild and then murdered the child when she wouldn't stop crying. May the jury show you as much mercy as you showed this family.

                  • 20 votes
                  Reply#11 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:25 AM EST

                  Hi and GM Chefaz

                  Seems the dirt-bag is grasping at straws, as there is no way to "accidentally slit a throat". Perhaps, living in general population of any max prison will allow him to be "accidentally" all of the Bubbas boy-toy for quite afew years.

                  • 2 votes
                  #11.1 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:26 AM EST

                  Hi Jack!!!

                  I dunno...ya'll figured everything out very nicely at post #3. Besides...people accidentally wind up in large frying pans every day. :)

                  Have a great day.

                    #11.2 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:32 PM EST
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                    Was it the baby or the sitter who got slashed?

                    Shoddy writing, tsk.

                    • 1 vote
                    Reply#12 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:27 AM EST

                    This story is completely wrong. It was the grandmother who got her throat slashed. The baby suffocated after having a handkerchief stuffed into her mouth, her head wrapped in a towel, and her body being shoved into a suitcase. It a bald-faced lie that he expected the baby to survive that. But, since it is Pennsylvania, the death penalty doesn't mean a damn thing. He'll die of old age, unlike the little girl.

                    • 8 votes
                    #12.1 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:13 AM EST

                    How in the hell did he not MEAN to kill the baby?? Does this sound just crazy to me?? How you put a handerkerchief in her mouth, a towel around her head and put her in a suitcase and not mean to kill her. Wow smh

                    • 3 votes
                    #12.2 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:39 AM EST
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                    My deepest deepest condolences to the family of the infant and grandmother. I am a little sadder for our future that someone like this can even exist.

                    • 14 votes
                    Reply#13 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:28 AM EST

                    Trial, guilty, execution within 7 days.

                    Oh wait...... what am I thinking. By the time it actually gets to trial, the race and poor immigrant theories will be fully played out and the claims of the inability to get a fair trial will be worked in the media.

                    I'll volunteer to accidentally execute him.

                    • 9 votes
                    Reply#14 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:34 AM EST

                    By the time it actually gets to trial, the race and poor immigrant theories will be fully played out and the claims of the inability to get a fair trial will be worked in the media.

                    They won't have to bother with all of that. He'll be tried in Pennsylvania - a death penalty state that keeps their death row inmates as permanent guests. And poor he wasn't. This monster was educated and had a heavy gambling problem. He also knew the family well enough that attended a recent birthday party.

                    • 7 votes
                    #14.1 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:40 AM EST

                    chefaz-1319563

                    Pennsylvania... otherwise known as Pittsadelphia. (Pittsburgh and Philadelphia)

                    And I didn't mean "poor" in the financial sense. More in the "he doesn't know and understand our customs and societal norms".

                    But yeah, he should be executed, or at least put in general population and tattooed as a child killer. That will make him very useful to the other "residents".

                    • 3 votes
                    #14.2 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:57 AM EST

                    I agree with you entirely. He needs to go. The sooner the better.

                    The Venna family is left to endure this double tragedy forever. You're probably right but this bereaved family and justice for them is where the media should focus. Time will tell.

                    • 4 votes
                    #14.3 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:13 AM EST

                    xd

                    use a 22 its cheaper. and if ya give him a head start he would make for some fine ....practice.....after all we all need sharpen our skills from time to time.

                    • 4 votes
                    #14.4 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:32 AM EST

                    Morning chefaz, XD, Scooter.

                    Add my .38 2 the party!

                    • 2 votes
                    #14.5 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:02 AM EST

                    Tatoo Child Killer in the middle of his forehead the guards will make sure he finds the right shower.

                    • 1 vote
                    #14.6 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:08 PM EST

                    Oak Hollow machine gun shoot is looking for new targets.

                    • 2 votes
                    #14.7 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:10 PM EST

                    XD, Chef, Scooter, Jack

                    I think that a little experiment with frozen paintballs may be in order. They need to know at exactly what velocity a frozen paint ball will crush through the skull and cause fatal hemorrhaging, I think they just got an accidental volunteer to help them find out.

                    Honestly, my condolences to the family. This is a horrid event, the defender that takes this case needs to accidently botch it all to he!!

                    • 3 votes
                    #14.8 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:37 PM EST
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                    That is like saying I put the pie on the plate with my vegetables but I was not going to eat the pie. I ate it by mistake. If you put yourself in the situation you are responsible for everything that happens in that situation. Once he took possession of the child he was responsible for the well being of that child. If a stranger came in and killed the child while he had possession of the child he would be liable for whatever damage was done.

                    • 3 votes
                    Reply#15 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:36 AM EST

                    I guess we'll just have to "accidentally" execute him. We won't mean to, but it will happen. Or, better yet, to save the taxpayers money, maybe he will be killed when an officer's gun accidentally discharges while he's in jail. Yea, I like that one better. Get-r-done!!

                    • 3 votes
                    Reply#16 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:38 AM EST

                    Since this guy is a foreigner, legal or illegal, could the govt send him back to India? Could he really only be deported? Could he not be executed because he is a foreigner. He would only get life? There are so many nutcase stories out there I cant follow them all. Whatever happened to the murderer who killed the 19 yr old who was on her way to work at Starbucks? The sick neighbor did it. Oregon I think. The Indian guy must get life at least. Please

                      #16.1 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:01 PM EST
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                      Time for legislators to get control of this country back from an insane Supreme Court. Hanging a piece of trash like this should not be "cruel and unusual" - it should be simple justice served. Look at the posts here this morning - the people of America know what needs to be done to get the country straightened out, but the fools and thieves in DC will not obey the will of the people. Time to throw them all out and start over again.

                      • 7 votes
                      Reply#17 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:39 AM EST

                      Here is a good example of subhuman filth whose very existence is an insult to the entirety of humanity. There is no fitting punishment cruel enough for this piece of garbage, but I'm sure we could come up with something, such as a naked, upside down crucifixion, slowly lowered into a vat of boiling oil, with the crowd controlling the rate of descent. I would pay good money to witness and participate in such an enjoyable thing. OF course, we wouldn't mean to do it. It would just happen accidentally. Other options might include slow-roasting him in a nice big convection oven after injecting him with enough stimulants to keep him awake the entire time, or strapping him standing up in a large tank, and slowly filling it with water, and adding piranhas when it got up to his waist, and rats when it got up to his chin. These are things that deserve serious consideration when dealing with vermin like this. Just shooting him would be much too compassionate.

                      • 2 votes
                      Reply#18 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:41 AM EST

                      Dang!

                      • 1 vote
                      #18.1 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:08 AM EST

                      @Mymomdidnotraiseafool:

                      Someone has watched "Law-Abiding Citizen" a few too many times... double-dang!

                      • 1 vote
                      #18.2 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:04 PM EST

                      That you would find these activities entertaining is disturbing, to say the least. I think you may be as sick as the defendant in this case. Fantasize all you want in the privacy of your own home, but, leave the computer alone. I want justice for this family as much as anyone. Nothing you decribed will bring back this child and her grandmother. Send him back to Inda for trial. He lost his right to our freedoms.

                      • 2 votes
                      #18.3 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:26 PM EST
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                      We are a nation of laws, not justice. He will plead guilty in exchange for a life sentence, and that is how the law works. Where is the justice in that.

                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#19 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:43 AM EST

                      PA does have the death Penalty... But it has only executed 3 people since 1976, all in the 1990's. There are 200 inmates on death row at this time.....

                      This perp is a Sorry individual at any rate, death may be too good for this person.

                      • 3 votes
                      Reply#21 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:51 AM EST

                      Take him to trial quickly, have short trial, find guilty of first degree murder with quick execution date, execute. That is what should be done. Personally I would like to know, is this a guy a born in the USA citizen, a Naturalized citizen, a legal alien, or an illegal alien.The article makes no statement about these questions and yes they are important.

                      • 3 votes
                      Reply#22 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:51 AM EST

                      Never will that state actually follow through with an execution. Super pleased the USA allowed this POS to come here and murder 2 innocent people, now we get to feed him 3 meals a day for the remainder of his life. I hope someone takes him out in there.

                      • 6 votes
                      #22.1 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:01 AM EST

                      @Srich, we can only hope the rest of his life will be short and terrifying, but likely it will be solitary confinement to avoid any unfortunate international incidents. I have a Cessna that I will volunteer to radio control and donate to fly him back to where he comes from, well at least part way.

                      • 1 vote
                      #22.2 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:05 PM EST
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                      Right! He didn't mean to hurt anyone - he just 'ACCIDENTALLY' killed TWICE!!

                      He ought to get a taste of his own medicine. No plea deals on this one - hope he is sentenced to death. But if not, Life Without the Possibility of Parole.

                      • 2 votes
                      Reply#23 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:51 AM EST

                      Cases like this are why no one should EVER vote for any politician who opposes the death penalty. As far as I know, hanging and firing squad have never been declared "cruel or unusual" in the US.

                      • 5 votes
                      Reply#24 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:51 AM EST

                      Amen John. Now that is getting to the underlying problem of prision overpopulations.

                      • 1 vote
                      #24.1 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:14 PM EST
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                      I hope some very terrible "accidental" things happen to this man while he awaits execution.

                      • 5 votes
                      Reply#25 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:52 AM EST

                      Could not agree more... Let's hope the wait for the needle doesn't take too long. I actually think we should slit his throat today and say - oops, sorry as he bleeds to death on a dirty floor.

                      • 1 vote
                      #25.1 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:25 PM EST
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                      maybe he should be "accidentally" dropped of a high bridge with a short rope...

                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#26 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:54 AM EST

                      NO! Too easy!

                      • 1 vote
                      #26.1 - Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:50 AM EST
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