They're probably hard at work punching holes in Federales in Mexico by now.

They're in the hood.

Sure looks like an inside job to me

Not necessarily. The criminals could be hiring people with extra sensory perception to remote view the contents of the box cars.

looks like the local militia is gearing up for a tea party style take back of the government....

they better hurry the myan calendar is ticking down, 21 days and counting !!!

or maybe it was eric cartman going after the jews or mexicans, no no its the hippies ! Colorado just legalized pot and now southpark will be overrun with hippies...

everybody relax eric has the weapons, officer babradey has everything under control.." move along people nothing to see here"

Lets remember the Government ships Stinger Anti-Aircraft missles, mini-nukes, ect....by rail all the time. This is no big deal until the big sticks are stolen. Then Boom!!

Kenneth, go bury your head please. I find NOTHING funny about this. NO law abiding NRA member would EVER condone this, nor would ANY of us lawful gun owners want these on the streets in the hands of God knows who. My instinct also tells me this was an inside job even if it was just to pass the information they were there. I'm surprised Homeland Security isn't all over this along with the ATF.

It was just ol' Eric getting more stuff for the Fast n' Furious project.

Does Eric Holder have an alibi?

jerry-b

That was my same assessment...Plausible Deniability...

Maybe the ATF is all over it. Fast and furious redux?

Too bad Kenneth's dad didn't know how to properly holster his gun.

100 missing AK-47s? That means there will be 100 gun "enthusiasts" who will be unable to shoot up their local school, church, mall, or kid's birthday party this week! They will be so disappointed!

M.R. Chase - Seriously? Then Representative Allen West (*R*-Florida) must not be law abiding because he's certainly an NRA member and he's advocated the use of violence to achieve political goals. I believe the quote was "If ballots won't do it Bullets will." Tell me again how you're armed to the freaking teeth and have no intention of using the guns improperly if not illegally. You know, like that good gun owner who fired 8 to 9 shots to 'scare' some kids in a parking lot. He apparently scared one to death by putting some bullets in him. Go ahead, we need a good laugh about now.

AK-47 style rifles?? A little vague.

A friend in Sacramento, CA. sent me this text message:

"If they're not recovered, crims will be happy to sell them to homicidal maniacs, sell them for cheap in private sales and gun shows, and sell them to anti-Obama rednecks in the black market. Gang bangers love 'em. Spray everyone with bullets in a drive-by; kills a few, maim everyone else that gets hit. Just takes one or two of them to be caught for interrogating law enforcement to track them back to their dealers."

Way back in 1980, my college room mate stole about 100 cases of Budweiser from a boxcar. There were several railroad tracks behind our apartment complex and they frequently had trains parked on them. One day, a couple of guys were tossing a frisbee when an errant throw caused it to land up the embankment by the tracks. The guy who retrieved it was looking at the train when he noticed the doors were "locked" with a flimsy wire seal that was easily removed. He opened a door and found a boxcar packed with cases of Bud. You know what happened next.

The Budweiser brewery was located about fifteen miles to the north of us. Given the info in the story, I don't think we can assume the gun heist was necessarily an inside job. A quick check on Google shows there are four gun manufactures in the immediate area of Atlanta. It's possible someone near one of those manufactures might notice boxcars frequently parked next to their building, assume they were being loaded with guns, then simply follow the train to the area where it was parked unattended in a rail yard.

Inside job, those rail yards are patrolled well.

Riff--

The AK-47 is one of the most licensed/replicated/knock-offed firearms on the planet. Real AKs are fully automatic AND manufactured at the Kalishnikov factory in Russia. Semi-automatic versions which look identical or nearly identical are made by at least half dozen US gun makers, many more in China, and when you start throwing in Brazil, Poland, Iran, the numbers begin to grow rapidly. Each gun has it's own name/designation from the manufacturer, and may slightly different specs that the original. So while they are not, in fact, AK-47s, due their appearance, the label AK-47 style is appropriate, as that is what most people would call if they saw a picture and did not dig any deeper.

its funny this story get the attention it does..100 gun is such a small number . i know 10 people that own 100 guns each. and i don't know that many people compared to others ..i'm sure some of em will surfice . but ranting with speculation of what idiots would do with em just give's those idiots idea's ..no need to fuel a idiodic mind . we don't have enough fire trucks to put out the flames

I agree that this is an inside job. Could be the shipper having someone watch where it was loaded or someone at the railroad dispatching office.

We can only hope this is one of the first victories orchestrated by the resistance and not thugs.

Geronimo I think you are spot on! Nobody knows what's in rail cars except the customer and carrier. I work for a railroad and I can (and have) run reports of what's being transported in rail cars. BUT I have NEVER saw a rail car transport weapons, or at least, transport dangerous lading, without special agents camping out with that particular car. Strange that that boxcar wasn't supervised more closely. The sheer luck that would be involved with someone opening up random boxcars to find a shipment of weapons is astronomical. PLUS most boxcars have doors that are really hard to open by hand due to forklift damage, mishandling, etc.

jhawke

It appears your guy Obama will be targeting them next for outlawing and possibly UN confiscation

Have you seen anything to prove what you are saying? Other then repeating some idiot in the nra. Remember, that same person said if obama got elected in 2008. He would take away all your guns. How many did you loose? As far as the "UN confiscation" thing you are talking about. You obviously have never read it. You are just being a parrot for some idiots. If you have a brain, try to use it. Read the below link and learn something for a change.

http://www.factcheck.org/2009/12/international-gun-ban-treaty/

Although customers may be able to monitor shipments between cities, they do not always know where a shipment is at all times unless they have a business partnership with a specific carrier, and I know of no customer-carrier partnerships of that nature existing among the firearms manufacturers or distributors. With a shipment as large as this one was, this was no-doubt an inside job by someone working for the carrier, or one of their friends or family members, or possibly a dealer is looking for an insurance scam to cover their other financial losses for the year. FFL holders must immediately notify BATF&E concerning any stolen firearms, not the carrier. So I would first start with the insured amount, and see if the dealer had insured the shipment for some ridiculous amount then if only insured for actual value, follow that with an investigation of who could have monitored the shipment this closely to intercept it in transit. That would have required insider knowledge because not even x-raying of shipping containers would necessarily revealed the contents unless the person doing the scanning of the container knows what hidden shapes to look for in the scan. This theft was most likely by parties who had knowledge of the bill of laden for that container. I have confidence they will be found but not necessarily recovered, though if they catch them within a few hours, they may recover them all.

That's about 700 lbs of merchandise, doubtful that 'transients' had the time to offload that much stock, but if the homeless take over the government in Georgia I guess you could be right.

What's a transient without ammunition?

Stake out the local liquor store and see if a you can trade for a half pint..........

Even a Transient has the right to defend his home. Even if home is wherever he passes out.

Are you folks STILL beating that dead horse?

oh, you mean that treason loving dead horse? that one?

Hey, Greyguy duce, your side brought up the NRA as the enemy.

ha ha ha...these Wisconsin public union dolts would follow our gubermint right off a cliff if told to ( I hope the fiscal cliff will starve that beast into oblivion...they rely on gubemint handouts/paychecks so need to be here defending their way of life and those who perpetuate it...it's the Dems who they elect to steal our money so Holder or any O'Bama guy can do no wrong...

Anybody know where A.G. Holder was when this all went down????

Eric (with)Holder is resigning and making a quick exit from the administration with his $$$. Another rat leaving... good riddance!

greyfox

oh, you mean that treason loving dead horse? that one?

You talking about operation wide receiver? You know the one that happened under the last administration. That had the records sealed and no investigations into it? That one?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wide_Receiver

P.S.

Why do you think there were no investigations into that one? Remember, that was a real cover-up. Those records had been sealed.

yea, alot of info missing here.

He declined to discuss other aspects of the case.

There are many reasons for not giving out too much information.

Its part of all investigative tactic's.

anti

There are many reasons for not giving out too much information. Its part of all investigative tactic's.

I agree with you. But many feel that if the information is not released within the first hour of it happening. It must be a cover up.

hell, santa needs protectin' too!

Great series! Kurt Sutter is a mad, sick genius!!! That and his wife is STILL a hot piece of ass!

That part of the country, wouldn't it be SAMCAT?

hope it hits hard and starves the beast...government unions and worthless programs need to go first...

just bring back the "Twinkies."

It is like everything else, the made in America guns are too damn expensive thanks to the greedy unions. So we have to buy Chinese weapons.

Actually there are smaller firms making them here in the USA. Lots of caliber choices too, nowadays. Look up Valkrie Arms.

JohnCarter -

Any time you're willing to do your job for the wages offered in China, I'm sure your corporate masters would be happy to oblige. Of course, you'll have to live under a bridge and eat once a week to live on that wage here in the US, but feel free to volunteer for the pay cut.

Xerxes-2735213

American Honda and Toyota workers are doing quite well without unions, thank you.

Toyota workers get to voter every year if they want to unionize. They don't want to because they have good management.

American workers are the most productive in the world. That's why companies come here.

Ever heard of the "Centurion?"

AK style guns are not fully auto. I would speculate that 99% of the AK-47s in the U.S. are semi auto only. They have been disabled and will not function in full auto. I have one and know several more people that do. Just a very dependable semi auto rifle. They come in large numbers from former soviet block countries as surplus and are altered to meet our gun laws before import.

Just went and looked at mine. It doesn't appear that it was ever capable of full auto. Made in Romania and imported as a semi auto rifle. Looks really scary, but is no more dangerous than any other semi auto rifle like the ones people use hunting.

AK style = P.O.S. SKS Chinese crap. The kind with stocks that look that they were shaped with a hatchet. That lot of 100 were probably meant to be sold as Black Friday bargains.

The Chinese ak hasn't been imported for almost twenty years,and by the way they are one of the best ever produced.

Hey blackdoo,you are so right about everyone trying to band guns,its so stupid.I dont know why,since we have so many people ,obviously with nothing better to do,people dont form a group to ban people from banning guns.

Chinese make good products. They only sell cheap stuff to dumb ass Americans

@31 bravo: I agree... those Norinco AKs are hard to come by, and fetch a premium. Fact is, until the import ban, you could get a MAK-90 for as little as $150. Now you'll pay $800-900.

AK's will be too hard to find ammo for...I'm stickin' with AR platform .223 and 9mm...IMHO

Why haven't you already stockpiled 5000 rounds for every platform? :-)

AK uses 7.62x39. that ammo is all over the place, and about as plentiful as 5.56 AR stuff. Don't like the AK platform myself, I use the M1 platform. Grew up on the AR, which is absolutely fine. And a stockpile of 2-3000 of each is just fine, I maintain less at the moment due to finances, and handload my deer cartridges.

They are doing a lot of cool things with both platforms. Many more AR type guns around here. Have seen some neat .308's in a AR type platform and also some wild things with different uppers for a wide range of rounds and interesting magazine and loading configurations.

Longfarms; maybe he has. I know I have!

you and I both know the media are idiots. A journalism degree is about as useful for real world application as is an underwater basket-weaving degree.

When in the last 50 years has the media been concerned with little things like facts? Most aren't educated or smart enough to recognize different types of weapons. To them, if it is a handgun it's automatically a Glock, and if a long gun automatically an assault weapon.

The guy from ATF doesn't help much when he calls them "AK-style".

Most folks know nothing about firearms. A few years ago I was watching a live talk-style TV show. A guest was talking about firearms and he held up Ruger 10-22 semi, no particular audience reaction. He then held up a Ruger 10-22 that had been "tricked-out", and the audience gasped. He had to explain that the firearm was the same, just a .22 plinker, even though it looked "evil".

I have a 10-22 plain vanilla---a fun gun.

Incorrect - if they are not fully automatic, they are not Assault Rifles. Assault Weapons was a term coined (by congress, if I recall correctly) to describe semi-automatic rifles that resemble (and are frequently modified from) Assault Rifles. Resembling, in this case, being based primarily on the short barrel and short rounds used (in addition to body styling).

Generally considered the first assault rifle, 1944:

The StG 44 (Sturmgewehr 44, literally "storm (or assault) rifle (model of 19)44") was an assault rifle developed in Nazi Germany during World War II that was the first of its kind to see major deployment and is considered by many historians to be the first modern assault rifle.

sounds like maybe some security wasn't working the rail yards that night.

They are starting a new gun smugling program at BATF, based on the Benghazi defense: instead of "fast and furious" this one will be "slow and stupid".