E-mail updates
Follow on Twitter
Subscribe to RSSA San Diego area elementary school teacher was arrested Friday morning on felony charges involving allegedly luring children online.
San Diego police via NBCSanDiego.com
John Kinloch
Suspect John Kinloch, 41, is a first grade teacher at Wolf Canyon Elementary in Chula Vista. He’s been teaching for the past 14 years.
Federal agents believe the veteran teacher lured children online in order to obtain nude pictures of minors. Kinloch is now being held at San Diego Central Jail on three felonies involving minors.
On Friday, the Chula Vista Elementary School District handed out 900 letters informing parents of Kinloch’s arrest. The letter reassured parents that none of their students were targeted and none of the alleged crimes were committed on campus.
The news left both the school district and parents in disbelief.
“It hurts me that the kids have established a relationship with this teacher, so I'm really going to be asking some questions,” said Wolf Canyon parent Denise Roldan. “My kids [have] only mentioned him a couple of times. They say he was a cool teacher; kids were really happy with him.”
Anthony Millican of the Chula Vista Elementary School District said Kinloch’s arrest came as a complete surprise, especially since there were never any red flags concerning the teacher.
“There's nothing in the individual's file to indicate anything of this nature, thus [we’re feeling] a sense of surprise and concern and shock,” said Millican.
The Internet Crimes Against Children Task Force says Kinloch posed as a 13-year-old girl online.
He has allegedly been in contact with boys between the ages of 12 and 16, getting them to send him nude photographs and videos.
In addition, Kinloch is accused of selling or sending the obscene materials.
Now, the well-liked teacher is under investigation and on administrative leave from his position.
More from NBCSanDiego.com: Dad pleads for return of late Marine's photos
“Anyone who harms children isn’t someone we want in our system,” said Millican.
Kinloch’s neighbors say the teacher was not married, lived at home with his mother and generally kept to himself.
He’s scheduled to appear in court and face a judge on Dec. 7.
Leave a Comment:
Typical. After he is found guilty lock him up and throw away the key.
Over the last 14 years, I'm sure there have been other incidents as well. Hopefully other victims will potentially come forward now and put this guy behind bars for as long as possible. He'll be the little girl in prison, not something he's typically used to. I'm sure he'll receive several beatings and many not-so-fun-for-him times in the shower.
And the molestation of young boys by homosexuals continues... despite TV's best efforts to portray a happy gay in every single TV show.
Timothy1Mil you are a sick individual! Your statement is like saying every guy named Timothy is a sexual predator. Sexual orientation is not an issue here, this is a sick individual that targets children.
Timothy you dumazz. Homosexuality and pedophelia are not the same thing. Most pedophiles are straight males.
And the moronic misinformation campaign continues. It is as ignorant to classify a pedophile who targets a child of the same gender as homosexual as it is to classify a pedophile who targets children of the opposite sex as heterosexual.
Pedophiles must be judged on their own by their anti-social, criminal actions, not as either homosexual or heterosexual.
You have been down this disgusting road of misinformation before, Timothy, and it is obvious that you are either willfully ignorant or you spread this hateful false information even though you actually do know better.
Oh no.....what is the Teachers Unions going to do now.
Seems every week there is an article concerning unscrupulous acts by TEACHERS against CHILDREN.
And I thought the Chicago streets were bad.
Ido
What is your point? Are you trying to suggest in your own sleazy, underhanded way that this act is a common occurrence and that the teacher's union would in any way try to protect this individual. Instances such as this are extremely rare and the unions NEVER protect those few teachers who do commit this type of act.
Your ridiculous comment is indicative of the unjustified conservative attack against teachers and teachers unions.
I want to lure him into a dark alley and cut off his nuts !!!
Dont worry everybody he will still get his full pension, so he will be OK !!!
the union is so desperate to get people on the rolls they never do background checks !!
I say that if you want to be a employee of any kind (daycare, schools & bus drivers) that works around children they have to have a background check with fingerprints and physiological profile done..
lets see how many people give me a hard time about my post, they either have no children or they are the pedophiles were talking about !!
mike
You could not be more correct. Any steps that could be done to prevent these types of crimes NEED to be done. No exceptions
mike
The unions are not desperate to get people and, in case you haven't thought about it, it is not the unions who hire .... it is the school districts. There are lots of teachers available due to the massive layoffs during the Bush recession. No one is "desperate" for people.
Background checks are a current requirement for a teachers certificate, including fingerprinting. Why don't you educate yourself before you launch another of your anti-teacher, anti-union rants?
Just for your information, teachers unions do not oppose such background checks.
NortheastVick was seen spewing this hate:
Northeast is a poor speller with terrible sentence structure and an ignorant argument. These are all the markings of an ill-informed, right wing nut job.
don97524
ROFL - 5 years later and still somebody elses fault. Pathetic.
If that is the case, do your teachers proud by making better use of the skills they taught you lest everyone think you are an ignorant and uneducated fool.
Northeast...I call bull@!$%#...if you are so erudite, you would have been sure to avoid the split infinitive in your post lauding your writing skills: "I was the only one in my advanced creative writing class to not be published, but the teacher said I was the only one of her students to follow all of the rules (sic!)..."
FYI -- the CORRECT syntax should be "not to be published." Moreover, your use of the conjunction but is illogical here. In fact, the entire paragraph seems counter-intuitive. Are you saying everyone else in the class was published but you? So you were a failure in the class? Was your failure due to or because of your following the rules?
Oh and to address your sure to follow "who am I to judge you" backlash...I am an English Professor with 17 years teaching experience in writing -- technical, composition, and critical -- and literature.
AND there is a distinct and critical difference between pedophilia, pederasty, and homosexuality -- and if you fail to understand that, then I am sure you also believe there is no difference between Christianity, Hinduism, and Satanic worship.
justoneguy
I agree it's not all Bush's fault. The Republicans who continually oppose efforts to put those teachers back to work share the blame. Tell your legislators to support the Jobs Bill.
I can't decide which is more disturbing: A man luring children on-line to obtain nude photos, or a man pretending on-line to be a 13-year-old girl?
If it turns out that this guy has actually sexually abused any minors, and if he is found guilty, perhaps the court should offer it's 'assistance' to his being-a-girl fantasy ...by ordering the removal of his "factory equipment" before sending him off to the hoosegow?
I'm just sayin' .... ;-)
Mike-2958 barfed " the union is so desperate to get people on the rolls they never do background checks !!" Uh. Mikey. Even someone as rabidly right wing as you can't REALLY believe it the unions duty to do background checks, can you? When you say stupid stuff like this you lose even more credibility, if that's at all possible. Use that as your opening line and people tend not to read much further. Which, come to think of it, is probably a really good thing for you.
don97524
Is that yet another attempt to spend tax money to stimulate the economy don? Obama has already proven that it DOESN'T WORK!! Good Grief......
How can you say it didn't work when the bill was not passed? The first stimulus did work, and so did TARP.
OH YA Solyndra, Cash for Clunkers...wake up don..the only people that profit from these 'stimulus plans' are the banks and Wall Street....lemme tell ya, in the "Rich" echolons, they can't wait for more 'stimulus' dollars. You've been duped.....THINK
Have you read the Jobs Bill? How do you believe that hiring teachers, cops and firefighters somehow benefits the rich? The Republican tax plan is designed to benefit the rich and with absolutely no economic benefit for the country.
You're new to this Vine. The first rule is to have respect for other posters. Could you try to remember there are nice people on this forum who don't appreciate reading the gutter-mouth language you use to insult people? With the vocabulary you say you have, I would think you could find a more gentile way of expressing yourself.
Re #1.26: "genteel", not "gentile"
Northeast Vick - here is the weakness in your argument. No one had sex.
Timothy1Mil
First, there is no 'proof' that this teacher did what you said. Second, there is no connection between what two CONSENTING MALE adults of the SAME SEX do and someone who commits pathetic crime on a child. Although, always remember... in quite a few states, minors can marry legally marry cousins.
I think everyone is missing the point of Northeast Vick's posts.
He isn't saying that all Homosexuals are Pedophiles, he's saying that not all heterosexuals are pedophiles (as stated in a previous post by another user)
Two arrests this week in my home county of Manatee, Florida for child molestation(population 300k plus}. Both are married heterosexual men molesting young girls. This is not a rare occurrence despite having very harsh penalties for such a crime in the state of Florida.
I am an avid news fan. Without having precise statistics involving such crimes, I would estimate that the ratio involving heterosexual vs. homosexual child molestation to be at least 50/1 in favor of heterosexual child predators. The latter being so rare that it stays in the headlines from the time of arrest to sentencing.
I would feel remiss if I failed to mention that at least 1/3 of these cases involve migrant Hispanic adult males as the predator and consenting minor Hispanic females as their victims. I believe this is due to our differences in culture other than criminal intentions. All the same, they're here and must obey our laws just we must obey the laws of Mexico while in their country.
Those posting comments on this particular case should take a very close look in the mirror. Does your vehement protest and condemnation of this criminal come from your revulsion of child predators or does it come from your revulsion, hatred, condemnation and bigotry towards all gay people?
Kinloch’s neighbors say the teacher was not married, lived at home with his mother and generally kept to himself
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Um, no, not typical. Most pedophiles (94.5%) are married adult males. The stats are on the US Dept of Justice website.
And several of you are correct -- "NE Vick" doesn't know what he is talking about. Pedophilia isn't about gender -- pedophilia is about targeting children. Most pedophiles don't care what gender the child is, only that their victim is a child. But when you have acid-spitting right-wingers who hate gay people -- well, you get ignorance spewed out all over the place... Most pedophiles are adult males in married, adult heterosexual relationships. They will target males and female children. Their sex acts with children don't define their sexual orientation in adult relationships, beause pedophilia and sexual orientation are mutually exclusive psychological matters altogether.
People like "NE Vick" can only think in one dimension, however, and seldom spew up anything of value, only bitterness and hatred.
No, his point is loud and clear. He hates gay people, and this is one of his ways of letting off steam.
No, that's NOT what the user said that he was replying to! He did not say "all heterosexuals are pedophiles" -- he said that MOST PEDOPHILES are HETEROSEXUALS. And, if you take the time to look up the stats published by the US Department of Justice, you'd know that this is a factual statement.
Sexual Orientation and Pedophila are completely different matters in a person's psychological make-up. Pedophilia has nothing to do with what a pedophile's sexual attraction is to adults. Many heterosexual males (married men in adult, heterosexual relationships) will go after young boys or girls -- gender doesn't matter to a pedophile.
Meanwhile, back on the picket line JUST before school starts and those back room deals in the background for more pay, less class size, less health care co-pays, more vacation time, less school prep work, and more "tenure" benefits.....the picket signs say:
Yep, get rid of the Teacher's Unions then maybe NYC can fire those hundreds of educators sitting in the padded room collecting taxpayer money.
How come the women teachers that molest boys seem to go scot free?
justoneguy In answer to your question, I think it depends on the sentencing judge. Usually there is some sort of sentencing range. It should apply equally to male or female convicted offender, but there is a mistaken belief by many who find it difficult to believe that a woman would do such a thing.
One report mentions: " female pedophilia is the most under-reported type of child molestation ." Also, there is a significant number (about 40% of underage sex crimes), involving adult women with convictions for underage sex activity with younger males.
In California, the legal age of consent is 18...Anyone aged 41 who is involved with anyone under the age of 18, is definitely barking up the wrong tree.
This guy will have his day in court. More likely than not, if he is convicted, he will die while in prison, from old age or otherwise.
This is par for course here in California. The sad part is that he will get a couple of years in jail and be able to collect his teachers pension when he gets out. Good job there dumbocrap party. You allowed yourselves to bought out by the California pediphile teachers union for political power.
dave
Ridiculous speculation.
You are apparently willing to say any hateful lie that enters your information-challenged brain in order to disparage those you hate. We get it. You hate (1) California, (2) the justice system, (3) Democrats, and (4) unions. Anything else?
creeper does look a bit light in the loafers
He will end up in the "rubber room" where pedophile teachers go to count paper clips and do that until they retire at full pension.
WhistleBerries,
I hate to be the one who brings bad news but based on what this person is being charged with I guarantee that he won't be in jail more than 3 years and I would actually be surprised if he did more than 6 months.
Don, the union protector.........There is a case I read about a few years back in New York where an older male teacher was molesting children. The union pressured the school board and the system simply moved the teacher to a new town obviously allowing him to keep right on going with the disturbed behavior. Any time your try to protect an "institution" over an individual you kill a little part of society.
He's on Administrative Leave????
Exactly why the Teachers Unions need to be done away with!! Fire that Bass-turd!! And then hang him from the highest tree!
ENOUGH of these predators that go after our children in the school system. The Teachers' Union tells them they can do ANYTHING they want to our kids and get away with it for far toooooo long.
NorthernClimbs
You are either woefully ignorant of the role of teacher unions or hate the unions so much that you are willing to shamelessly about their role in this crime
Your statement that teacher unions "tells them they can do ANYTHING they want with our kids" is a lie. Your ignorance about the role of teacher unions is off the charts.
Your comment reveals a lot about you. You hate teacher unions and are willing to create the most sinister and hateful lies your evil mind can invent in order to make your point.
NortheastVick banned, rereg of zipperthecat.
That's a picture of the last person I would want around my kids...
Teachers have to be vetted more. To many wacko's being hired!
Anyone can get a teachers certificate these days.
mike
Teachers are vetted with background checks which, unfortunately, can only reveal what the person has actually done in the past, not what is in their mind. There are well over a million active teachers in this country and the reason that these incidents are so prominent in the national news is that they are very rare.
Anyone who believes that "anyone can get a teachers certificate these days" is completely misinformed.
Northeast! I hope you are very correct about the information you just published or you are going to be sued for slander and libel!I kind of hope you made a mistake.You are so arrogant,it would be nice to read an article where Mr.Spina or his son sued you and won!Have a nice legal day!You state Mr.Spina was arrested for assualt and battery,then you proclaim that his son was also arrested as a sex offender!You better hope Mr.Spina's case involved a sex crime because your poor writing skills just implied Mr.Spina was a sex offender!
mas098........Would you like to be fired just because you were FALSELY accused of some heinous crime against children? False accusations abound in American culture - particularly against those who work with children.
What, pray tell, if you were actually INNOCENT?
In THIS country - there is a REASON a school district CANNOT fire a tenured teacher who may have been FALSELY accused. Get a grip.
At least they caught him. Now de-ball him.
Hey, sicko's need to procreate too! Unless they are priests and it's against their religion to have sex and marry.....adults.
If the punishments for these types of crimes were severe, it would start to deter these people from actually committing the crimes. Solicite or assault a minor, lose a hand, for every offense. They will stop, and if they don't, the second time, they won't have the phalanges to use the internet anyway. Problem solved, off with their hands!
cory
Why not move to Yemen or North Korea where the justice system matches your sick mind.
don
I am not saying for all crimes, but we need to find a better way to protect our children. Unfortunately, these predators are targeting professions that allow them to have access to many children on a regular basis, teachers, priests, etc. Maybe the cutting off of the hands is severe, but think about the physical and emotional scars those children will have for the rest of their lives. I dont think it is sick, I think it is pro-active. And yes, I have two small children so I may be biased on the subject...
cory
What I am saying is that we don't do that sort of thing in this country. You remind me of the folks who find reasons to justify wartime torture, and I don't agree with them either.
Don't forget the boy scouts. Predators were there as well.
don
Three months in segregation at a correctional facility is not deterring these predators from repeat offenses. Something else needs to be done with this type of criminal, I am sure you can agree with me on that. Maybe not as severe as what I proposed, but something. I have no compassion for people that seek out young children to harm, none.
Tattoo "Sexual Predator" on his forehead and relase him into general prison population. Nature will takes it's course and make many happy.............
Northeast Vick
Are you part of some sick middle school gross out contest to determine which of you children can come up with the most disgusting punishment? We all believe that this man should be tried and punished but do we have to convert our judicial system to some unAmerican medieval torture to satisfy you sick freaks?
The UNION will make sure he KEEPS his job!
AKRandy
That is a completely false and unfounded statement. The teacher unions have no history of protecting pedophiles and to suggest otherwise is irresponsible and hateful.
If you have a problem with teacher unions, fine. State your case in rational terms and maybe someone will agree with you. But to spread such trashy lies as in your comment have no place in a responsible conversation. I will say, though, that your statement is completely predicable given the garbage you have spread on this blog in the past.
Really???? I have read they special place where they send them to work some have been there 5 years still drawing pay!!
And yes I HATE PEDOPHILES!! Don't you?
The left is the best friend and criminal have. Low sentences always worried about the criminal ,NEVER caring about the victim.
You heard wrong and you are irresponsible to be spreading such garbage. New York City, for example, has some teachers on administrative leave with pay, but they are not pedophiles and you are wrong to suggest otherwise.
Yes, I do hate pedophiles but I am not willing to make stuff up in an attempt to make a point.
I wonder what your are??
I can guess by the heated way you are defending this trash!
Randy
I am not defending anything. I am calling out people like you who irresponsibly blame the union for something they did not do.
don97524 Please familiar yourself with California teachers.One was recently arrested in LA .He was caught feeding his spoo to his students and was also accused of masterbating in class while his students were present.He has been in jail for about 6 months and has not been forced to resign.The last contract as well as all previous union contracts forbide the LAUSD from firing a teacher until they have been convicted of a crime.We are assuming the teachers in question have tenure which ,in California, only takes two years.Yes,the unions do promote illegal interactions between the teachers and their students by precluding the school district from firing one of them immediately, upon being arrested for doing such dispicable acts!
mas
The teacher in your example is not in the classroom. The teacher is also not being paid and your charge that the union is "promoting illegal interactions between teachers and their students is absurd. The union is also not standing in the way of the prosecution. What you are presenting as a major problem is in truth a technicality and has harmed no one. Get a grip!
Try looking at the situation rationally.
I would add mas that many of us still believe in the presumption of innocence. To fire someone summarily because they have been ARRESTED for a crime would violate that presumption. It is absolutely appropriate that the school district be prohibited from firing someone BEFORE they were convicted of a crime.
Don......and just what would you recommend?
Don, Cory already lives in a nation where the justice system matches his sick mind. :)
Child rape is a death penalty offense according to the United States Code of Military Justice and according to civil law in China.
It's an offense worthy of death. That's why a first world nation's military lists it as a death penalty offense.
Cory can stay.
If it's any consolation I've always hated people with morals and a strong sense of conservative justice.
But still, Cory can stay.
Oh, and Cory......You're SICK! :) But so is the United States Code of Military Justice.
So, please feel free to stay.
Young children will always be an "innocent" victim. They are to young to really protect themselves, so we need to do it. Yes, my way might be considered "sick," I myself may in fact be "sick," but I think it would be an effective way to go about it. Rapists are the lowest of the low, and should be treated as such
No, I was joking about Don calling your sense of justice sick when your sense of justice falls right in line with the United States Code of Military justice.
Sick crimes like child rape deserve a strong sense of conservative justice which is reflected by the United States Code of Military Justice which some consider to be archaic, but I feel while the rest of the country has become more liberal in its sense of justice the USCMJ reflects the true spirit of this nation in dealing with serious offenses.
Child rape isn't keeping a dime bag in your dresser drawer to enjoy with your friends while you watch Pink Floyd, The Wall. When ever you violate someone else's sexual rights its almost like murder.
I agree, I have had friends serve longer sentences for possession of a controlled substance, first offense, than some convicted child molesters serve. They become repeat offenders because the system lets them out. If they were dealt with correctly the first time, the pedophile would not have the chance to do it again.
It's absurd!
That's the whole reason behind the department of corrections is to CORRECT people. If they aren't doing enough time, hard enough, there is no motivation for them to deny their illegal predatory behaviors which are overpowering their ability to restrain themselves.
It's a disservice to their victims to send them to jail more than once. They need to do enough time and have a miserable enough experience that it motivates them to restrain themselves.
And if they themselves were not victims of sexual assault as children, simply walk up and execute their a$$es.
If you allow homosexual males around innocent boys ... what the heck do you expect? There should be laws preventing homosexuals near children of the same sex. We have thousands of stories of teachers having sex with their students. If the sex is heterosexual, it is a minor story. If the sex is homosexual, the older guy is called a pedophile! The news media has really failed your kids. They make lite of sexual advances of teachers and make heavy homosexual attacks on your kids and fail to say that homosexual behavior is the root! That wouldn't be politically correct. So your kids are "literally" screwed by gay teachers! The Teachers Union doesn't care; Obama doesn't care; the news journalists don't care. Parents need to make a decision. They can let their kids be attacked by homosexuals or they can eliminate the organizations who support homosexual attacks on their kids.
Amen, rober34!
rober
That is a completely ignorant statement from someone who fails to understand the difference between a pedophile and a homosexual person. At least you have Vern to agree with you, and we all know how brilliant Vern is:
Don, I find it quite telling that when someone speaks out against this particular predatory homosexual pedophile felon, that you tend to respond with personal attacks against the person posting it.
Seems like there is something else going on here.
Rober made a completely erroneous charge agains "homosexual males" and I called him on it. This guy is a pedophile, period. To suggest that there is a general problem with children being around homosexual males is as stupid as if you were to say that children should not be around heterosexual adults because some of them are pedophiles.
I am not defending "predatory pedophiles" ..... I am standing against the ignorance that claims that homosexual males are the problem. If you are in that camp you deserve personal attack.
In case you missed it, the predatory homosexual pedophile felon that is the subject of this article, is a homosexual.
..... and that is not a reason to keep all homosexual males away from children. It would be like excluding all blacked haired males from contact with children because this guy has black hair.
Tell me, if the guy were heterosexual would that be a reason to ban all contact between heterosexuals and children?
Vern
The article said that he was unmarried, not that he was homosexual. He was probably unmarried because he is attracted to children .... that is the nature of a pedophile.
Yet another Obama-voting Democrat predatory homosexual pedophile, who managed to seek out a position that gave him access to as many potential juvenile victims as possible.
Vern
You are a completely ineffective spokesman for the most vile and hateful sector of the conservative citizens in this country. Do you believe that you actually convince anyone to take your side with such ignorant attack statements? You probably do, however, convince some thoughtful conservatives to disassociate themselves from people like you.
Why do you feel the need to defend him?
Vern
Note that I did not defend anyone. I criticized you, and you deserve it.
Don, Don, Don...
I spoke out against the predatory homosexual pedophile felon, and instead of arguing your position, you responded with an emotional attack against me. Sounds to me like you're defending him, lol.
Let's try again, Don. This is the statement I made:
"Yet another Obama-voting Democrat predatory homosexual pedophile, who managed to seek out a position that gave him access to as many potential juvenile victims as possible."
Is there ANY part of that statement that is in doubt?
Do you doubt that he is an Obama-voting Democrat?
Do you doubt that he is a predatory homosexual pedophile?
Do you doubt that he actively sought out his job as a teacher?
Do you doubt that his teaching job put him in contact with a large number of potential victims?
If you have some actual point to make (other than your emotional temper tantrums), then let's see it.
Vern
I am defending the homosexual male population, which you attack because you fail to understand the difference between homosexuality and pedophilia. I do not defend predators. I do not defend pedophiles. I do not defend ignorance, so I will not be defending you.
Vern
There is nothing in the story about this guy's political party or who he voted for. Your statement is based on the biased, hateful nonsense that rattles around in your own sick head. Whoever he voted for and whatever political party he associates with has nothing whatever to do with his crime and by suggesting that it does reveals nothing except your own extreme prejudice and hatred.
So because it doesn't say in the article, you think he's a registered Republican and he voted for Romney,or what?
Be honest.
Vern
Another irresponsible statement. You've never heard of Republican pedophiles? Think back a few years and try to recall a little incident regarding Congressional pages.
Vern-1642229
Yet another uneducated and obtuse individual who must be a product of George's BUSHES no child left behind policy. How can you compare what two consenting adults of the SAME SEX do with a sexual predator, pedophile, or what this guy has done.
Since you have your head in the sand about REPUBLICANs http://badmouth.net/top-five-republican-gay-sex-scandals/
I so tired of this stupid arguement. The article specifically statest that he was targeting young boys. the definition of homsexual acts are sexual acts between the same sex. Has nothing to do with consenting sexual acts between adult males. Therefore, this man targeting young boys meets the defintion of a homosexual and a pedophile as well because it was boys not men. You can not make a distinction between a pedophile and a homsexual just because it is boys and not men that he is going after. If he is going after boys he is a homosexual pedophile, if it is girls, then he is hetrosexual pedophile, if both he is bisexual pedophile. gee whiz people!!!!!! and if it is men without consent, he is a homosexual rapist and it women without consent he is hetrosexual rapist, and if he is having consensual sex with men he is a homosexual and consensual sex with women he is hetrosexual, or consensual sex with men and women, he is bisexual. Now, are we clear on this, yet?
Obviously one of the NEA's finest.
I'm assuming the ACLU will be running to his defense also.
Vern
What an ignorant, hateful comment. This is not the fault of the NEA. They did not hire this man ..... the school district did ..... why not blame them for this problem if you have some sick need to blame someone besides the man who actually did the crime (I have no such need). The NEA has no history of defending the any pedophile found in their ranks. On the contrary, they have cooperated fully with authorities.
The ACLU also had nothing to do with this crime and has no history of defending anyone in a similar situation. It appears that you are just lashing out at any group that are on the conservative hit list without any provocation or rational basis.
Thank you for taking this opportunity to spread your hateful opinions without provocation. You have revealed yourself as someone whose opinion is worthless.
Don, Don, Don...
The ACLU has a long and dirty history of supporting homosexuals.
As far as the NEA goes, the predatory homsexual pedophile felon that is the subject of this story is most likely an NEA member- there is no doubt that he is one of theirs. By contrast, this would be very different than when leftist Nazi DemoKKKrat hoplophobes attack the NRA every time someone who is not an NRA member commits a crime with a firearm. You can't have it both ways.
Homosexuality is very Normal so our government wants us to believe. They think it is so Normal I read that some schools want to teach about Homosexuality to students. Where are all the common sense people in this country hiding? Have all our officials gone Gay?
The ACLU does have a history of protecting homosexuals and I'm glad the ACLU stands up for their rights, mostly against people that think like you do. The ACLU does not, however, have any history of protecting pedophiles, and that is the issue here.
You people who disparage homosexual citizens because of this type of incident are uninformed and you spread your hateful message without any rational basis.
Your NRA example is completely off the mark and has no applicability in this discussion. It does, however, speak to your inability to think rationally.
Tarzan
Schools teach students not to bully homosexuals because they don't get that message at home from parents like you.
Don, disagreeing with you, and/or simply recognizing that something is wrong, is not "hateful". I don't hate you. I recognize that you have been assigned great value as a person.
Your emotional rants and personal attacks, on the other hand, sound quite hateful.
Maybe you should take some time to examine yourself before trying to "fix" the rest of the world.
This man is clearly disgusting, and needs to be sent to prison. However, I also hope it highlights the need for parents to be more involved in what their children are sending and viewing on home computers and cell phones.
Thanks Leslie...the comment that needed to be said the most. Obviously this teacher succeeded into tricking 12 to 16 year old boys to show their wee wees online. Parents need to educate their kids...i can understand 15 and 16 yr olds doing this because..__SHOCKER___they are sexual beings too...but its the under 14 year olds doing this is disturbing.
You think children are "sexual beings"?
Seek help, Jay. Seriously.
You think children are "sexual beings"?
Seek help, Jay. Seriously.
So when are humans considered sexual beings?? At 18? It would be nice if the puberty fairy came along at that exact day of age but it doesn't, now does it. Im not advocating sex with legal minors but yes..medically and scientifically, we all are sexual beings at birth. Our hormones, which dictate our sexes, program us to be boys or girls. That's why applications ask for your sex. I'd advise people to stop holding on to your own fears and actually STUDY sexuality.
Just like the bible..everything isn't what u heard..or think.
JYI...this dude is dumb and should be in jail. But, is he a danger?? idk....he definitely needs help.
It is my hypothesis that 'deviant' sexuality such as homosexuality and pedophilia (and other variations) are an under-developed form of sexuality, resulting from arrested social/mental development starting from one's childhood (which is caused by some physical trauma before, during or in the few years after birth). There is also the element of some mental derangement involved. The main cause of this physical trauma is violence which could be accidental but is mostly deliberate. This is an argument in favor of reducing and eliminating violence in society especially those toward children born and unborn. Our mental health depends critically on the avoidance of violence and also the providing of a safe nuturing environment. The violence and exploitation in our society is encouraged by our economic system unfortunately, so the root causes of pedophilia go very, very deep into this culture. Pedophilia does not occur in isolation but is merely one of numerous symptoms of the dysfunction of our society.
And the problem is, that since leftist extremists pressured the American Psychiatric Association to remove the mental illness of homosexuality from it's diagnostic manual, they are prevented from being able to receive appropriate mental health services for their mental illness.
Actually, alfred_bielek, your opinion doesn't mean anything given the fact that you don't actually know anything about the subjects.
#1: homosexuality isn't deviant sexuality. Review material available from the American Psychological Association, American Pediatric Association, American Medical Association and any other reputable organization and you can learn some things. And Vern, nobody pressured anyone to remove anything. You might wish to do some research about how it all went down, it would likely surprise you. Although you don't seem to be interested in facts, so who knows.
#2: pedophilia is, actually, deviant sexuality.
#3: your theories about physical trauma are just plain koo-koo crazy. Have you been talking with aliens?
Vern
The magnitude of your ignorance about homosexuality is truly astounding.
Why all the hate, Don?
I thought you people were supposed to be all about "tolerance". I guess that to you people, the word "tolerance" only means that you want other people to buy into your B.S., while you continue to spew only hatred for people who dare to think differently than you.
Vern
"You people"? What the hell does that mean. Do you mean rational people who call out others who make blatantly false statements? This is not a matter of a difference of opinion. It is a matter of you being wrong on the facts of the matters that you rant about.
You not only misunderstand the distinctions between homosexuality and pedophilia but you make completely unfounded charges against the union in this matter, accusing them of protecting this individual and thus contributing to the crime. Your rhetoric is both inaccurate and hateful and you deserve to be called out for your irresponsible statements.
You're probably likely to find pedophiles coming from families where the parent(s) believe strongly in using frequent and extreme physical torture to discipline their children (e.g. very religious families). Likewise for homosexuals. I suppose it's ironic, that the ones who are most openly condemning of sexual 'perversion' are the ones most likely to develop it.
No, actually pedophiles are most likely the victims of sexual molestation themselves.
Homosexuality does not result in procreation, so they can only recruit. And obviously they cannot recruit adults, because adults won't fall for it- so they victimize children.
Vern
Homosexuals recruit????? Do you have any idea how ludicrous that statement is? If sexual identity is a choice perhaps you can reveal when it was that you made a conscious choice to be heterosexual. The truth is that both homosexual and heterosexual people know their sexual identity at a very early age without being recruited.
The idea that homosexuals recruit is so ridiculous that anyone who holds that belief is disqualified from a rational discussion on the subject.
So is he going to be Suspended WITH pay for his Punishment? And don't forget to give him his pension too. I always thought that teachers were supposed to have some smarts. Was I wrong??
I'm sure the NEA will protect the "rights" of their predatory homosexual pedophile felon member.
Tarzan, Vern
The teacher unions have no history of protecting pedophiles and your comments are therefore ignorant and irresponsible.
Lol, it would appear that they've been protecting this predatory homosexual pedophile felon for the last 14 years.
Vern
What?????? Was the union culpable because they didn't stop this guy before anyone knew he did anything? Why not blame the school district? Why not blame the police (they did the background check).
What is it about the union that causes you to blame them?
Failing to be aware of his mental illness and failing to do anything to protect the children from him, is the mental culpability of "negligence".
Vern
The teacher works for the school board. His boss is the principal of the school and is responsible for evaluating job performance and suitability as a teacher. The school administration is responsible to the school board. For you to place the blame on the union only reveals that you do not understand the system.
I get it .... you don't like unions. But to blame the union for problems outside of their jurisdiction only to justify you dislike of the union is absurd.
So when are the victims going to be able to sue the unions that protect these pedophiles?
ASAFP, I hope.
I hope they sue the NEA out of existance.
Then we can hire and fire teachers based upon their job performance, instead of based on how much dust they have collected.
Perhaps you can explain how it is that the unions protected this individual. The union did not hire him, the school district did. The union did not conduct the background check, the police did.
When you blame the union for protecting this individual you are erroneous and irresponsible.
What never seems to be discussed in these case is, where in the hell are the parents of these kids? It seems most parents provide computers and cell phones to their kids and then do not monitor their activities. And kids who post nude photos/videos of themselves are hardly innocent.
You're blaming the CHILDREN who were victimized by the predatory homosexual pedophile felon, for the offenses that the predatory homosexual pedophile felon committed against them?
Seek help. Seriously.
Vern, I think this is the problem that people are blind to and its scary. These kids werent "little" at all. They were teenagers, underage, but teenagers! Teenagers are stupid by nature but hardly innoncent. These kids need to be monitored...they were bound to show their wee wees to SOME little girl..or whomever sooner or later..it just happens this "little girl" was a 41 year old male teacher...as sad as that is!! So blame the parents then teach the teens of posting naked pics of yourself online or through any electronic media can result it being in the wrong hands.
Seek help, Jay. Seriously.
Vern..u never was a teenager? Are u that dusty and old that you forgot?? If these devices were around today and if our parents were too preoccupied to parent..we be sexting on videocams and cell phones too....at 15, 16 17....i was just saying they need to be educated, by adults, that their photos..especially to a stranger..can end up in the wrong hands...i just keep it real.
Vern1642229 is a nincompoop.
.
I know what this clown did was wrong, but what I find disturbing is that these teen boys really sent nude pics of themselves just because they thought the teacher was a 13 year old girl. Is that all it takes for these kids to send nude pics of themselves? Good grief, I blame the parents of these boys more than the teacher.
So not every teenage girl on the internet is a cop or TV producer. At least one was a gay teacher.
I don't understand what a man gets out of seeing pictures of another nude male, especially a little kid. He has the exact same body parts, and he used to be a kid himself, so he knows what that looks like. My kids little weenie looks just like the one I used to have. Does nothing for me to see it, and I can't think of any thrill anyone else would get out of it.
Congrats, grape. I guess that means you are not a pedophile.
Again....(even though the weenies in question can vary between the ages of 12 and 16 ...lol)..these weren't little kids...and this teacher..which EVERYONE keep making this mistake..is NOT a pedophile. It's called Ephebophilia With these kids developing faster than we did, the boys running around with their buttocks flashing..or the females dressing provoctively...its becoming more common than u think. I teach my son to wear briefs. When he wears boxers u can see his business. Whether we wears jeans ..(those tight ones i hate ..but i digress) or jogging pants...Bam, there it is. If I can see it so can everyone else. I don't want to see it. And I don't want him to draw attention to it. So I did my job. Adults, please realize that kids these ages ARE sexual beings. Be aware of their body changes. Then parent. (and be a role model). Us adults drinking all the "these innocent little babies are victims kool-aid" without looking at all of the problem doesnt do these kids any favors...and i bet as im typing, some of your kids are flashing their wee wees and kitty kats online. Why? Because you still think your 16 year old 6 foot 210 lb son is still a "innocent little baby"...We need to open our eyes......btw pedophiles are those who are attracted to pre puberty minors....no hair and the little weenies n such...or under 12..more or less...
You think kids are "sexual beings"?
Seek help, Jay. Seriously.
we all are sexual beings..u included Vern. It's ok...doesnt mean i'd be attracted to you. Get your head out of the gutter for once.
Only a teacher in California could do dispicable acts as described and not be fired.That's one thing the article was specific about.He was put in "administrative leave" which means his payments to his retirement fund will continue until he is fired of quits.Here is the history of what will happen.The day before his case goes to the jury,this turd will resign his position.During his time in jail and up to his resignation,his retirement account was getting fatter and fatter.The longer he is in the system,not fired or not resigned,his retirement check amounts continue to get bigger.Since he wasn't fired,which is almost impossible,if not impossible,given the current union contract,he will still be entitled to get a full retirement based of the number of years hired,which will include the years spent waiting for trial and the time during the trial.So,after he is convicted and sentenced to jail for 20 years,he will just have his retirement check sent to prison and when he gets out,he and any present or future dependents will be entitled to free(no deductible) medical,dental and eye care.Isn't it wonderful the unions are so protective of their little child molesters!
Yup. The NEA has been protecting this predatory homosexual pedophile felon for at least the last 14 years, and they will continue to do so.
You're really hung up on the money. I'm more appalled that children have been exploited by a trusted adult...
I used to work for a company and was in the Steelworkers Union. If someone was arrested for a felony act, they automatically were fired. Period. If the charges were later dropped or dismissed, the union may help you get your job back depending on the circumstances. If the arrest was for anything concerning crimes against children, the Union would drop you like a hot potato, period. It didn't matter what the circumstances were or if the charges were dismissed.
OMG...that's horrible. So some vindicitive ex girl can lie and you'd be out of a good paying job..wow. That's why the teacher's union exist. Kids can lie too and a good person can lose his/her job for nothing.
This guy belongs to NAMBLA,formerly a section in the GLBT movement.They were only asked to leave the movement about 25 years ago when GLBT started their most recent pr campaign to make themselves appear to be normal and just like you and your other neighbors!
Really? So what group does heterosexual child predators and pedophiles belong too? Are they hiding so they can appears as normal as you and your neighbors? Oh wait, people like you must forget the greater percentage of the population is heterosexual and COMMIT the most SEXUAL crimes against children.
What two consenting adults of the same sex do is NOT even the same league as someone who commits a sexual crime against a child. Its not even the same thing. Oh wait, maybe 'hiding it' so they can appear NORMAL.
P.S. Are bigots or people (like you) so insecure about their own sexuality that they obsess with gays/lesbians?
mas098
LOL..really? And what credible source you get this from??? I personally think some of the hateful, ignorant comments made are as equally disturbing as this guy's crime. so now NAMBLA, GLBT, the Teacher's union and Obama is all in cohoots to victimize minors and encourage homosexuality...oh yeah i can't forget the good old state of California....LOL...amazing!!
ItsAboutTime-3704531
its a proven fact that people who over obsess with homosexuality is indeed themselves fighting the skeletons in their own closet. They will deny it of course..lol..but here's a question..since males are the majority who watches porn..why is STRAIGHT porn the most popular..where you can see a man's penis and butt..and not lesbian porn,,where you can see all women..gays watch all men...im just saying.
It's a fact all democrats are sexual deviots.
MAMBLA, GLBT, and other Queer o Sexuals have lobbist full time up there.
Mr. Warden-2811265
It's a fact all democrats are sexual deviots.
MAMBLA, GLBT, and other Queer o Sexuals have lobbist full time up there.
LOL....which you are probably a secret member of....how many "Christian Republicans"..been outed as either gay or a lover of little boys....im sure sexual "deviancy" is spread across both party lines...but keep drinking the kool aid sheep.
jay i'd say blow me but you would enjoy it too much
Jay, there's not really any "spin" that you can put on this, that is going to somehow magically place the blame for the crimes committed by this particular predatory homosexual pedophile felon, onto normal people.