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Courtesy of Casper College
James Krumm, 56, and Heidi Arnold, 42, were stabbed to death on Friday by Krumm's 25-year-old son, Christopher Krumm.
Police say a Wyoming community college teacher James Krumm was a hero for fighting off his son on Friday, potentially saving the lives of six of his computer science students.
"I can tell you the courage that was demonstrated by Mr. Krumm was absolutely without equal," Casper Police Chief Chris Walsh said, according to The Associated Press.
On Friday, Christopher Krumm, 25, stabbed his father’s girlfriend to death before driving to Casper College, where his father was teaching a class. He was equipped with a compound bow and arrow and two knives, which he carried into the building under a blanket.
When he entered the classroom, Christopher Krumm stood about four feet from his father, pulled back the bowstring and shot an arrow through his father’s head, the Casper Tribune reported.
His father, James Krumm, 56, fell but got back up and struggled with his son, the Tribune reported.
That’s when Christopher Krumm stabbed himself, then plunged the knife into his father’s chest, killing him, Walsh said.
When police arrived, the elder Krumm had died and the younger was taking his final breaths.
Back at his home, girlfriend Heidi Arnold’s body lay in front of the house for 11 hours, neighbor Heather Meier told the Tribune. Arnold, 42, was barefoot and her midriff was visible, Meier said. Authorities didn’t cover her body.
"I can’t keep it out of my head," Meier told the Tribune.
Police believe that Christopher Krumm drove from Vernon, Conn., where he was living, and booked into a motel on the outskirts of town on Thursday, the day before the killings.
Matt DiPinto, a neighbor in his apartment building in Vernon, described an interaction he had with Krumm to the Hartford Courant newspaper. Krumm was giving him a ride back from McDonald’s.
"He told me his dad gave him Asperger's (syndrome), that his dad shouldn't have passed it on," DiPinto said. "He said his dad should be castrated. I didn't know him that well, he just kind of said it out of nowhere, so that kind of threw me off a little."
Related: Asperger's disorder being dropped from psychiatrists' diagnostic manual
On the Casper College website, James Krumm described himself as a teacher born in London, England and partly raised in Germany. He started teaching at Casper College in 2002.
The Associated Press contributed to this report
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They looked so happy together. RIP James & Heidi. :(
And to those who jumped the gun on the love triangle/rotton father bandwagon...now would be a good time to STFU and enjoy your crow!!!! :P
I hate that when that happens. If everyone carried uzi's, flak jackets and reinforced-steel Bibles, this would have turned out differently.
Roosterboy... "If everyone carried uzi's..." Right! Because we all know that more guns equals less crime. Like more cars equals less traffic.
Irony is not a country in lower Saxony. Guns don't kill people, bullets do. The NRA is what's for dinner.
Oh come on, if you got a B at a Community college, wouldn't you lose your chit, too?
Actually Sam, communities known to be well armed do show much lower crime rates. After all, if you were a criminal, would you break into someones home knowing they could shoot you? Or would you go to the neighbors house, that is unarmed?
I'm still trying to figure out how a reinforced-steel Bible is going to save someone...
Nice. All information intact. SURE it was all the kid's fault and SURE the dad died a hero saving everyone in the class. it would behoove people to wonder just what brought the child to the point he came to. Why was the Dad (supposedly) telling this kid he had Asperger's and was the Dad humiliating the hell out of his kid? We'll never truly know. Might be some information from the neighbors, or those who knew the child. But I'm SO sick of the media making it all out to be loonies and crazies who have 100% knowledge of what they're doing, while the laws punish the CRAP out of people for sticking up for themselves against bullies. Push a bully back? Get thrown out of school! Tell the bully to quit? GET thrown out of school! Cut in line and Walmart in TX and when you're told to get back? Why SURE, punch the guy. At least in Texas the gun made the idiot run. It's not likely the kid came out of nowhere with this. Just like the guy in Colorado. Holy COW you can see the guy has a mental problem. No one even cared UNTIL he went and shot up a whole movie theater of people. (I tried to get help for a kid in Colorado myself and NONE was forthcoming until the kid threatened his sister's life, my life and my son's life. THEN the police came. Took all hell getting him help via institutionalizing in Iowa too. and he was diagnosed as anti-social personality disorder. That's Ted Bundy to you and me. But hey, Dad could NOT have done anything huh? MUST be 100% innocent.
As for guns being a number that "proves" safety. that good sir is NOT a fact. There is LESS deaths and crime in countries where it is illegal to carry a gun. NO that does not mean I agree that we shouldn't be allowed them, but the facts are what they are. Makes a person wonder.
This was killing with knives and a bow and arrow and yet here come the gun nuts saying people would be safer if we all carried guns. Well we went through that in the old west and that experiment ended in a big failure! Take you ads for the NRA and stick them and stick to the subject. The kind in this case had a mental disorder apparently otherwise he would not have tried to do this armed with really old time weapons. My sympathy to those wo were left behinfd in this tragedy. Now we have two more deaths in KC and one in Cleveland. Why do people think because they have a problem the have to kill someone else before killing themselves.
Where are the authoritarians/statists calling for the banning of bows and knives, and laws limiting the amount of arrows you can keep in a quiver?
Violent people are the cause of violent acts, not drugs, guns, and other inanimate objects. It's logic time, statists.
Amazing how quickly the anti-2nd Amendment libtards brought up guns. Shouldn't you people be using this opportunity to call for banning knives and bows and arrows? Rember, never let a good crisis go to waste.
Rember, knives have another purpose besides killing. Guns don't.
Very wrong sam. You just have to be smarter. There are a lot of uses for guns beside killing. I use them in my business.
These comments are more inane than usual. Some don't make any sense.
The kid shot his father to death with a BOW and stabbed himself to death. That is crazy.
No, literally, that is crazy. To associate it with any sane argument is pointless.
Isn't it too early in the week for this covnersation.
Ban knives and bows!
Sam Adams, what other purpose do bows have? Oh, wait! I got it playing violins! Oh and starting fires! No, that could be used for arson....
The two countries armed the most, The United States and South Africa, have the HIGHEST crime rates on the planet. The NRA is lying to you.
Take it county by county. And remember, our crime rates have been falling for 30 years as guns and people have been getting more numerous, along with permits to carry.
The counties with more legal guns, especially permits, have the lowest crime rates. It's not the nRA, it's the FBI, CDC, and DOJ stats.
I guess this makes people have to really think twice before you flip off the azzhole who cut you off in traffic. Or to the BF/GF who thinks its Ok to cheat. Or to the crazy nut standing on the subway platform mumbling. People are just fu&^*ing crazy nowadays. That and people think we are too en-lightened to have crazy violence going on. The more liberal and open a society, the crazier the citizens become because it is open season on all depravity. Don't think just because you aint married that you don't owe your mate some loyalty...Just ask RIRI.... Just saying.
@sam adams, knives are meant to cut, stab and slice.. most knives, especially hunting knives, are designed for killing.
A bow is designed for the same purpose as a gun. Long ranged killing.
@sam_3910195 The comparison to more guns versus more traffic is an illogical statement. Since the presence of a vehicle on the road does not constitute a "threat" in the mind, but you bring a gun into a room and anyone that doesn't pay attention is likely high.
Just owning a car doesn't factor to many. But if you think the possible presense of security measures do not deter criminals, you are obviously high.
Research the mortality rates in States. Compare the number with gun laws versus minimal laws. Take into account the events of today... Conn. is smack dab in the very liberal New England area... hundreds of miles from a "Conservative" state. Don't expect too many gun shops or NRA rallies held there.
Whereas Wyoming? Redneck does come to mind. Hunters galore and what, no gun? Willing to wager that the household probably had at least 3... never met a bowhunter that didn't have at least a sidearm to fend on more aggresive wildlife.
And I have no doubt, this time of year.. at least a handful of student has hunting rifles in the gun racks of the trucks... so I can assume with some realibility, that he used a bow and knife more for stealth. Considering that someone would have que'ed in on the rifle long before he got anywhere near the building.
why didn't they cover her body?
Absolutly NO excuse whatsoever!:(
This is pretty sick and disgusting. Whatever drives somebody to this kind of rage?
Insanity is the 1st thing that comes to mind here...but then again what do I know?
Isn't that the same story every murderer uses anymore JACF?
I'm not sure what murderer ISN'T insane as I think you'd have to be to kill someone like that, but, hey, why get in the way of the "justice system" eh...?
What you call an excuse is actually cause and effect.
How many sane and balanced people do you know that have murdered people?
BTW, soldiers don't count as an answer here. The fact they kill when it isn't self defense, or a war actually in defense of our country (as opposed to wars of aggression and occupation) all the time (over 80% of wars in our history), is the fault of bad parenting, government propaganda brainwashing, and mental disorders that thwart patriotism (nationalism and statism, namely).
Ted bundy I believe was sane could be wrong on that though. The zodiac had to be pretty sane to be able to avoid the law when he was killing. Casey Anthoney might be. and if I want to make all your heads spin in confusion Ed Gein. (I'm aware that ed was insane btw)
Proof positive! GUNS don't kill people -- PEOPLE kill people.
Yeah, I'm curious as to why her body was left uncovered for 11 hours for the neighborhood to see.
Yes City of Casper inquiring minds want to know? This lady was a human being not an elk or deer for Christ's sake!!! Do the police & investigators really believe that the neighbors needed/wanted to witness such a gruesome scene? A simple pop up tent would have been the least the city could do in such a situation.
Forget covering her body!!!! That's the least they should have done. I am wondering why it took 11-hours for them to remove the body. I've been a courts and crime reporter for a long time. I've never seen them leave the body of a murder victim laying at the scene for 11-hours much less uncovered the entire time. Usually the crime scene detectives come in to take pictures and collect evidence and after taking pictures usually the first thing they do is allow the coroners office to bag the body and take them to the crime lab for autopsy.
That one detail is almost as disturbing as the actual crime this young man committed. What a tragedy all the way around.
What a horrific incident! Prayers for the family...
No prayers for the son D:<
Very Christian of you, TWJ.
'Very Christian of you.' Ah yes, the go to comment when people can't think of anything intelligent or topical to reply with. You offered nothing of value to this conversation.
Actually Alan was right. Christians are supposed to pray for the murderer's soul too. You think Jesus would be okay with the stupid, insensitive, and vengeful statement TWJ left? I don't think so.
It cracks me up that so many people think they are Christian but know little to nothing about Jesus' teachings. It's like being pro-death penalty and being Christian...ignoring totally the state allowed capital punishment to be used (via a lynch mob and the state's soldiers) to kill their God. Besides that, Jesus was a pacifist, and never called for any death penalties...in fact, if he was truly a new covenant theologian, he'd be totally opposed to the Old Testament death penalties for breaking any of the Ten Commandments.
Hypocrites abound...
TWJ, you have to keep your comments very, very low. Like ground level, if you don't want it going over peoples heads on these boards. Think back to grade school and the comments you threw at the other kids at recess. Now you should be in the ballpark as long as you weren't too advanced of a third grader...
Keep the words to 3 or 4 letters and the sentences to 2 or 3 words and you'll be good. I think that's actually in the newsvine guidelines.
Unless someone is claiming to BE christian, I don't understand the point of reprimanding them for not being a GOOD christian...
That's the second time today I've seen someone call someone else an unsatisfactory christian when religious orientation was never originally mentioned. I'm going to start signing all my posts *I have no religious connections* to avoid being accused of being bad at something I have nothing to do with.
fear, then theyll call you an athiest.you cant win.
Because logic, reason, and consistency in ethics matter in philosophical debates.
Okay Brian. I'll try. (that good enough because that was seriously painful to type. I mean seriously how can anyone type like that?)
This is so very sad.
Whers's the anti bowers.....lets get rid of all the bows now....idiots
Horrifying. I know someone who used the word BLAME as well to a disease which was passed on to some members of his family. I said that this disease was not done on purpose but it just is what it is; blame to me implies intention.
But Mary, haven't ya heard? God has made it so that "ONLY" "Texas Conservatives"
"Possess the right state of mind...to be rewarded in heaven"!!! ;)
ROFLMAO...
Another GOP/ROMNEY/LDS SECRETE HANDSHAKING/GOOD OLD RICH WHITEY FOR SURE!!!!!! :D
Ares there any reports verifying he even has Asperger's?
Seriously JACF...is that the best you could come up with. I am a staunch enemy of the GOP and Romney, but wtf, you make zero sense and every time you comment, you dig yourself deeper into that hole of nonsense. Take a break from the internets already.
I'm pretty sure you a mental problem. Anyone who thinks in black and white, right and left, DemoCrip and RepubliBlood all the time is suffering from a logical flaw called "black and white thinking'. It's the only way you can go through life thinking in terms of false dilemmas and fake paradigms like that. It's also a symptom of psychosis in psychology. Look it up.
"blame to me implies intention."
How about neglect.
He was a grown man... so if and that is a BIG IF, the son was neglected, he is still responsible for his actions. If I told you my childhood story, you would feel sorry for me, that's why I don't even tell anyone, because now I am an adult, I like who I am and I wouldn't be me without my crappy childhood! When should start to take responsibility for your own actions?
This is such a tragic event. God bless people's exhibits' of selfless bravery. It's hard to believe that a son would kill his own parents, but God has made it so that not everyone in this world possesses the right state of mind. I'm sure that this man will be rewarded for his feat of bravery in Heaven.
And if there is no heaven?
it figures a comment like this, coming from a name like Texas Conservatism. Tragedy happens and people die yet God has made it that way. Why can't you leave your little immaginary friends that you whisper/pray to, out of the article? No one asked you about your religious views so please keep them to yourself.
Wow Mary,
You could actually follow your own advice. You just let all the world in on your religious views too...or lack there of.
I think perhaps we would all do good to keep the comments here on the storyline and the despicable, horrific tragedy that took place.
Please try to remember three people are dead. I don't know any of these people and I venture a guess that neither do you. So if you or others have any decency please try to respect that they may have family and friends who may read this and the last thing we need right now is an argument over the existance of a higher deity.
Mary, you seem to be an a$$. Please be reminded that this is America and all people have the right to speak freely. Unless Obama signed another executive order I have not heard of yet.
But Mary, haven't ya heard? God has made it so that "ONLY" "Texas Conservatives"
"Possess the right state of mind...to be rewarded in heaven"!!! ;)
ROFLMAO...
Another GOP/ROMNEY/LDS SECRETE HANDSHAKING/GOOD OLD RICH WHITEY FOR SURE!!!!!! :D
Wow, you are an absolute idiot
I just knew someone had to bring politics into this. Two people dead by the hand of a mentally disturbed person and politics is somehow to blame, how sad some people are. To all of the friends and family of the victims, my thoughts and prayers will be with you.
dsmith Don't forget every phone call, text, e-mail and post you make is recorded and scanned by big brother courtesy of G W BUSH.
Keep your stupid GODs to yourself and in your house - not in a public forum.
Who made u boss??
Huh?
NF- the CONSTITUTION made me boss.
It did no such thing and the "public" religion applies to is governmental. The "Boss" here is MSNBC. Maybe you should pray harder to your god "the constitution" for guidance. FWIW the constitution is not only the original document, it's how it's been interpreted and applied since it's ratification; a library full of definition. Try reading your "bible", the constitution sometime and not just the forward (the original document).
Here's where your authority comes from "boss":
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,...
...We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by the Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor."
Mary, while I agree with some of your comments, no one asked you your opinion either, why do you think you have more of a right to comment than s/he (TC) does? If someone's beliefs bother you so much, it speaks more about your convictions than it does the other person. TC, if you're going to make ludicrous claims, like God created it so, please drop your affiliation with TX, we don't need anymore asinine comments coming from people of our state, people only pay attention to the worst of what people have to offer.
Dear God,
Hope you got the letter, and...
I pray you can make it better...
...down here.
I don't mean a big reduction in the price of beer.
But all the people that you made in your image, see them starving on their feet,
'cause they don't get nough to eat...
...from God.
I can't believe in you.
Dear God, sorry to disturb you, but... I feel that I should be heard loud and clear.
We all need a big reduction in amount of tears.
And all the people that you made in your image, see them fighting in the street,
'cause they can't make opinions meet...
...about God,
I can't believe in you
Did you make disease, and the diamond blue?
Did you make mankind after we made you?
And the devil too!?
Dear God, don't know if you noticed, but...your name is on a lot of quotes in this book,
And us crazy humans wrote it, you should take a look.
And all the people that you made in your image still believing that junk is true.
Well I know it ain't, and so do you,
dear God, I can't believe in, I don't believe in...
I won't believe in heaven and hell. No saints, no sinners, no Devil as well.
No pearly gates, no thorny crown.
You're always letting us humans down.
The wars you bring, the babies you drown.
Those lost at sea and never found.
And it's the same the whole world 'round,
The hurt I see helps to compound
that Father, Son, and Holy Ghost
is just somebody's unholy hoax.
And if you're up there you'd perceive
that my heart's here upon my sleeve.
If there's one thing I don't believe in...
...it's you....
" I'm sure that this man will be rewarded for his feat of bravery in Heaven."
eh, I'm still on the fence about the father being a hero. It's like starting a fire and then when it gets out of control you come in and put out the fire. Suddenly you're a hero.
My first thought with this and other similar tragedies - love your kids, get to know your kids, spend time with your kids, teach your kids, punish your kids when they need it, involve your kids in your life, know what your kids are doing, praise your kids when good things happen, don't ever be "too busy" for your kids - your kids are ultimately your responsibilty and usually a direct reflection of the amount of attention you give to them. If you don't won't to invest in them, don't have them. JMO
We need to control bows and arrows.
What about knives, baseballs, and frisbees?
No, but sadly we do need to check people who are entering our public buildings these days. It's a freaking shame that I have to be buzzed in every time I enter an elementary school or go through a metal detector at my local court house, but hey...if that's what it takes, I'm all for it! :(
BTW, I'm not pro/anti gun anything...just know too many whack jobs out there are blowing people away cuz it's too damn easy!!!! I'm all for the responsible gun owners...why don't you all go take out the bad guys like in the old westerns and become American heroes?????? ;D
And knives.
If guns were involved the entire classroom could have been killed. All guns need to go. Ban guns.
BLS-744646
You are so ill informed. Banning guns will not stop people from being shot. Drugs are illegal but people still get them. Murder is illegal, but people still kill. Driving Drunk is illegal, but people do it everyday. Can I give you any other examples?
If you ban guns all you will do is increase the criminal element because criminals will get them through the black market and the value of a gun will skyrocket. People will sell them to anyone so they can make a dollar.
I am currently a law abiding citizen who owns guns. You come into my house uninvited you will be shot. You respect me, my family and my property we will not have a problem.
But if you ban guns. I will not give them up freely. I will fight to the death to keep them and if I live I will continue buying them and protecting my family with them...that would then make me a criminal and I know thousands of people like me and there are millions more I don't know that would do the exact same thing.
The answer my friend is not banning guns, but prosecuting an executing those who use them illegally, now.
BLS
If the guy wasn't born or insane, no one would have died.
If it was not a criminal safe zone, and one student had a gun the teacher, dad would still be alive.
seems like blankets should be banned.
BLS - "Murder is illegal, but people still kill".. now imagine if murder was not illegal - do you think there would be less murders?
Jack-
Spoken like a TRUE 'TEXAS GOD FEAR'IN CONSERVATIVE' ya'll keep wave'in that rebel flag & holler'in the south's gonna do it again, ya hear! ;)
common, ill tell you from a personal standpoint,NO.
SophieHauser22, there is no need to control bows and arrows. Instead, everyone should carry a set of bows and arrows with them so that if a situation like this occurs, everyone can start shooting arrows in all directions.
The big difference is only one person was killed in the school, had he walked in with an AK47 and a 100 round clip we would be hearing a completely different story, all 8 students would be dead.
It appears he went there to kill only one person as evidenced by the fact that after doing so he killed himself.
Ban ass burgers..!!
Well JACF, once again, you have no clue. Texas Rebel flag huh? Haysus you are ignorant.
"If guns were involved the entire classroom could have been killed."
If guns were involved, this guy could have been taken out before he stabbed his father the final time. It's because guns aren't allowed on college campuses that students in these situations have no way of defending themselves.
Way to fail Logic 101 and Game Theory in math class.
Tell me, my unjustly morally outraged friend, why has there been less and less violent crime PER CAPITA for 30 years now, at the same time more States are passing concealed carry permit laws and there are more people and more guns in this country than ever?
There are something like 40,000,000 - 60,000,000 gun owners with 300,000,000 guns in this country. There are less than 10,000 gun murders every year in this country (keep in mind population keeps going up but that number doesn't). That's .0033% of guns causing murders (or 33 in 10,000 guns), and .025% - .0167% of gun owners causing murders (or 25 in 1,000 gun owners - 16.7 in 1000 gun owners). And many of those murders are in places with the strictest gun laws...which is logical since law abiders are the only people following those laws (making them easy targets for criminals).
It's such a low risk to life it's pathetic.
33,000 people die of the flu in this country every year, for Pete's sake.
Get some perspective. If you aren't more than 3 times as afraid of a person in a cold sweat, coughing and sneezing, than you are a person carrying a gun, then you are COMPLETELY, inarguably, illogical and irrational.
People are so ignorant. What's worse, they form strong opinions out of ignorance. Ignorance is okay...we're all ignorant about something. But when you form strong opinions out of emotion and ignorance you have a serious character flaw.
Go read some books and studies. Hell, just go to the CDC, DOJ, and the like...they have all the stats you need. But then you have to do the math yourself...so bring a calculator.
BTW...guns are a NET GAIN of life. Far more than 10,000 people (the number of deaths) are saved by guns in the USA every year. Some estimates are as low as a few tens of thousands, and one estimate done by a Clinton era study (by his government administration) showed 2 million lives saved a year. Even if you discount the larger number, and only use the smaller number, guns are a huge net gain of life. If you ban them other types of violent crime will increase, and so will deaths (by other means).
And that's where logic and game theory mathematics (specifically deterent elements) come in.
This was a murder/suicide. Nothing more, nothing less. He had no intention of killing anyone buy his father, hence the stabbing himself in the heart part. Trying to paint the father as hero is just plain nonsense. It didn't matter what weapon he used, the result would have been the same. One dead father and one dead son.
Brave Guy, Sad story.
Prayers
How does being the murdered in a murder/suicide make one brave?
I agree with Skup. The police said he was brave but from what I read it didn't seem like the students were the son's target at all.
You sound pretty sure for a couple of idiots that were not there.
When a man enters a building armed with a crossbow, the intent is not to commit mass murder. A cross bow takes time and an awkward position to cock for another shot. (to say nothing of the nasty task of retrieving the bolt touse on the next victim) Dad's intent may have been heroic, by allowing the students to escape, but I can't help thinking that even with the two knives still in play, six students had a pretty good chance of bringing down one assailant.
Not a crossbow, a compound bow. A compound bow looks like a regular bow except there is a pulley system at either end to make drawing back easier. Your point is still well taken though.
Horrible. I can't imagine the horror that possessed this and how the folks who were in that class will deal with such horrific acts.
I am so tired of these mental cases causing nothing but grief....these diseased creatures should be offed!
Too bad they're seldom taken seriously until it's too late! I think the cries are often there, but no one wants to hear them?
We've all heard your cries JACF, and it's apparent you need help. I'll be the first to offer you any type of mental health care you would like to undergo, and for free, even. I know we have a long tough battle ahead of us, but you need the help and I am willing to offer.
This is about as tragic as it can get. This kid had more than Aspergers syndrome, he had a borderline personality disorder as well. Unable to process his feelings, he came to distorted, bizarre conclusions. Sad all around.
Bob Costas can go the H-ll,where does he get off telling us about gun control? A sick person killed 2 people not a gun. I dislike pious SOB's like Costas thinking he is brighter than everyone else!! A typical liberal POS!! - If he had had a knife they would still both be dead! The corrupt news media is at it again!!
He did have a knife jackass and a compound bow as well! Please don't go off the deep end and shoot Costas or the liberal media over this story that you are obviously confusing with another (Jovan Belcher perhaps?)
Costas was referring to Belcher
Rwbro: Costas referred to our culture of violence not gun control and he was talking specifically about Belcher. This guy had more wrong with him than Aspergers and by the way where do you get off blaming liberals......Get off the caffeine!!!!
How sad! That son must have shown some tendencies to violence before this tragedy. It is a pity that our system lacks preventive programs and help for people with aggression and violent behavior. Unless they break the law nothing is being done to prevent it from happening.
Too bad he wasn't legally allowed to have any means of defending himself. He might have saved himself as well as his students.
my father passed on insanity to me,but im not mad.
I want to laugh, but what if you're for real? :O
your safe.im just bored.
Glad you're not MAD!!!
me too! at least i dont think i am.; ) well im done for the night.hittin the hay.see ya round jacf. peace.
What in THE hell is wrong with people these days?
No sense of humor, no compassion, no empathy, greed, stupidity, hatered, and the list goes on.........
or, maybe they're just bored? :O
Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyy!!!
Nice catch ;)
Well, if Asperger's syndrome is non-existant, then maybe sonny boy is a Shlthead instead.
My son has high functioning Asperger's Syndrome and no one has a clue where he got it from. The best I can guess, IF it's genetic, is that it skipped a few generations. New research suggests that the Autism cluster, including Asperger's, may be caused by the mother suffering a high fever over several days during gestation. I suffered several infections and at least one case of a high fever as well as high blood pressure when I was pregnant with him. More research needs to be done, but do not think the Autism cluster is passed down.
Anyway, this young man was very sick and his dad was most likely the only target at the school. Asperger's people get fixated and stick to a single goal which doesn't usually include going after sensationalism like the kind that mass murderers are after. But they are also prone to outrageous rationalities, which is probably why he blamed his dad.
Heather, thank you for sharing and best of wishes to you and your family.
julie
Does he own a compound bow?
123 should be banned from posting anywhere forever. What a D-bag
Casper Wyoming has been my home for over fifty years. I attended Casper College as a young man and it is a fine school with great teachers. Casper is a small community where most people know each other and one can walk into any coffee shop and find a familiar and friendly face and good conversation. The very nature of this tragic incident has left the community in shock. That this happened here makes it seem that no place is immune because mental illness is everywhere that there are people and it is so difficult to foresee when someone with mental issues can snap and do something so regrettable.
The comments & the stories merely reflect the basic problem of general inability to effectively be humble, thankful, loving & appreciative. 'Christopher Krumm'? Sounds like a cheesy Bond villain anyway.
The blame game should stop. This kid blamed his father. It's likely that the father blamed his son so the son imitates the father in the blame game. Why to this degree, don't know. But, blaming is the nth degree the problem. We all do it and to that degree we should stop it and take responsibility. Our media our congress our whole country looks to blame and when someone actually takes responsibility they are thrown to the wolves. Case in point, Patreaus took responsibility for something so benign, but we are so into tabloid mentality we throw the best people to wolves while the real wolves sitting in wall street and banks with their nice serene smiles kill us all financially. Obviously the banks aren't going to take responsibility and we let it go on and just blame. We should demand congress to stop the insanity of blaming and get this country into the black or we will be as dead as this family.
We can blame Congress for all of the senseless blaming that's going on?