That sounds about right since in Mexico they write their dates DDMMYY instead of MMDDYY so they couldn't tell that the meat was old or they just didn't care haha. Sounds like they need another raid.

Hum...was the hamburger made of beef? Maybe police need to start by DNA testing the "meat".

I don't know what news is more disturbing - a mysterious gun in with the beef, or that the beef they're selling us is well over a year old.

Why do we need a gun with the meat? It's already dead.

This is the work of 'GoodFellas" They just need to did deep back in the freezer to find Tony hanging on a meat hook........

If they can find the cold dead fingers that held the gun, they can run the prints.

I agree with Seven.. year old meat with a gun. Gotta be organized crime. They should check to make sure all that meat really is bovine.. just saying..

makessense

since in Mexico they write their dates DDMMYY instead of MMDDY

So does the US military.

.38 Super would be consistent with south of the boarder. Mil caliber weapons there are forbidden to civilians there but the .38 Super has no miltary application but is nonetheless a very potent round.

I think that most people would be more concerned with what Albertsons is doing with meat that is almost a year and a half old rather than with the gun. After all, at this point the gun is no danger to them, but that meat just might be. Not only should they be investigating how the gun got there, they should be investigating what Albertsons is doing with meat that old. They certainly should not be defrosting it to sell to customers if it is that old.

The gun has made for one of the more memorable cases for the Roswell department.

The town with pictures of out of space aliens posted all over town finds this one of the more memorable cases??

Well of course. All of the aliens are peaceful.

Somewhere there is a Colorado State Trooper with a t-bone in his holster. Potentially a much worse situation...

LOL

denver bill 2 Maybe Albertson's is test marketing a new product... They realize their beef tastes so bad, the average customer would want to kill them self after tasting the "aged" beef... eh?

I stopped buying meat department products at Albertsons several years ago. It will be interesting to see if this publicity helps sink more Albertsons locations. Marysville, WA had two Albertsons stores, but the one at the north end of town closed a few months ago.

That is not something one sees every day - the closing of a big grocery store. Of course, the WINCO store, with very competitive prices, that opened nearby might have had something to do with that.

@ Pedestrian-in-SF,

Those were my exact thoughts, although some meat is better aged like cheese. I'm not sure it has to be left out at room temperature to be considered aged or not? A year and a half old seems a little on the extreme side if you ask me.

If aliens were involved, it would have been a ray gun. I agree with the Mexico theory...38 Supers are popular there. Maybe this is an attempt to flood our country with firearms to create chaos...in response to our attempts with Fast and not-Funny.

In the meantime, Roswell police are hoping their NCIC database query through the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms may provide some clues, but Roswell Sgt. Jim Preston told New Mexico's KOB.com that the search could take months.

Yuuuup, those serial numbers don't mean a thing unless the numbers are added into a database when the weapon was purchased.

Lots of luck on finding the owner if the gun sale was not processed.

Take "MONTHS" to get any information ? Yuuuup, someone must be using Apple IIE floppy disks to store their database information.

Guns don't pack themselves in a meat-pack. People do.

it could have been as well the employee who opened the box....

you open a box of meat and see a sidearm with ammo in it. you dont do anything other than duh? call the police! i kno some people are not all that bright, but give me a break. some one like this processing meat would have lost most of their fingers long before finding the weapon....

I think they meant "New Jersey" instead of "New Mexico." HAD to be a typo. And I would NOT trust the meat to be beef.

Yet another example of how responsible right-wing fanatical gun nuts are.

Didn't anyone else wonder why the employee wiped the gun down before turning it in? It wasn't IN the meat...just laying on it. He had to know he was wiping away any potential finger prints...

Doesn't he watch NCIS or CSI or any of those other alphabet soup shows??

maybe they just recycled the box, and forgot to put a new date on it. Hey, anything is possible

@Robert1717. You don't know that. It could've been a left-wing fanatical gun nut. LOL

I would be concerned about how long the meat we buy at supermarkets have been frozen? The report says "packaged" a year ago.

We do sometimes freeze meat at home, but keeping it frozen for probably over a year is nuts.

Also, was that particular box "ground beef" ? Another concern here, (not trying to be funny).

Yet another example of how responsible right-wing fanatical gun nuts are.

Yet another example of a gunaphobic liberal left wing fanatical mindless emotion-driven response on guns.

My money is on an illegal alien doing this...an illegal alien that you democrat liberals love so much and want their votes from.

10tacle

You are exactly correct. Why else would Obama grant amnesty to so many illegals! Not to mention that he is destroying this countries economy at the same time.

The supermarket employee wiped it clean before turning it in,..

Ummm, why?

This doesn't make sense. The year-old frozen meat. Yes. Stuff gets shoved to the back, and rediscovered later.

The employee walking out of the store to deliver the gun to the police? Definitely not. You call your manager or PIC over. The police are called. No one touches the gun. The news article doesn't mention any management discussion. If the employee didn't trust the management, and that would be understandable, the employee should have called the police. Anyway you look at it, the employee has lost his or her job, because the employee hand books do not allow stuff to be taken from the stores, and employees are not to call the police when there's a manager available to do that job. (If the employee had told the manager, chances were that it would have been swept under the rug and never reported.)

Heck, when I was cashiering at a Kroger, we were told that even if we see a fire, or someone calls in a bomb threat, we didn't have the authority to evacuate the store, but were to turn it over to management.

Hmm - 6/8/2011? Dear article, thank you for explaining to me why I should never buy meat from Albertson's. Now I can add them to my no buy list, right up there with Walmart. Sincerely, me.

makessense

since in Mexico they write their dates DDMMYY instead of MMDDY

So do I, US Military, Europeans, Main Frame systems...

I would of snuck the gun out and kept it. That way when all of the fruitcake gun hating liberals confiscate guns I would still have one to protect my family. Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

Maybe it was a way for someone to send the gun to someone he knows who works at Albertson's... hence the stale dated meat as an identifier for the package to find his gun. But the guy who was supposed to get it didn't get there in time. OR the guy who was supposed to get it was the employee who opened the package but someone else saw the gun in there so he had to turn it in (that is why he wiped it clean first).

If we could only find nice cracker jacks surprises in the box like that all the time, that would be awesome!

I'll take all the free firearms I can get!

After Robert1717 stuck the stick in
gun-nut hornets nest and shook it a few times I could not wait for a
gun-nut to come along and say something profound and
brilliant.........And guess what ? It didn’t take long!
Davefromdanapointca offers us this gem, “ Better to be judged by 12
than carried by 6.” When a gun-nut opens their mouth it's only
a matter of time before they glorify murder.

Considering all that is going on in the world and even in our U.S right now, this news should be taken as funny, to joke about. Instead, what we see is the compulsory gun owner freaks all defensive about a funny event. Maybe someone hiding the gun to get it later, but turned out the shipping truck got priority. Whatever.

No one got hurt this time, so RELAX! No one is taking away your guns! LMAO
Life is too important to be taken seriously, guys, and it doesn't last very long either. Take care of yourselves and enjoy, Christmas is coming.

Yet another example of how responsible right-wing fanatical gun nuts are.

You are a toad....Wait, I take that back since I got nothing against toads....you toad stool.

I've been told, my meat IS a loaded gun!!

Denver, considering the caliber is normally preferred by either competitive shooters (who don't buy Rock Island handguns without doing a ton of work to them) or Mexicans, you are probably right as to how it ended up in the box. Some illegal alien working at the plant (How many times do these meat packing plant have to be raided before they start hiring American citizens?) either ditched it in the box during a raid or dropped it into the box by accident and was too afraid to say anything because he knows he'd go to prison for being an illegal alien in possession of a firearm.

This is the last time that plant was raided by ICE. If it was dumped during the raid then there is an even bigger problem with their "freshness" dating.

ICE in December 2006 raided the meatpacking plant, then under the ownership of Swift & Co., taking about four busloads of workers to immigration holding facilities in the Denver area for deportation proceedings. The raid was dubbed Operation Wagon Train.

http://www.denverpost.com/business/ci_21736052/jbs-ice-agree-collaborate

Just what KIND of meat was in this package?????

try a vegan burger...

It could have been a McDonalds mixup - the store got the Happy Meal pack. I usually get the crap toys.

The supermarket employee wiped it clean before turning it in, making it difficult for police to find any identifying fingerprints.

DUH! Good thinking there, stock boy! Jeez...wouldn't that be considered "tampering with evidence"?
Ya shoulda just put the pallet of petrified cow guts back into the freezer and called the cops to COME GET the gun! (...she says while laughing so hard at the thought of that uber fresh meat...she spits coffee on her keyboard.) lol

And then we here from LONGSHANK. An individual with such a small penis and mind (for him, 2 of the same) that he has to try and impress the ladies with a screen name implying he is well endowed in his genitalia. That's right short dick, I would keep the gun and hide it until the commander in thief tries to confiscate every ones firearms thru his signing of the UN gun ban days after reelection. The UN gun ban is a ruse to make an end run around our constitution if you haven't bothered to read up on it. They even state it is in their language. But idiots like you still have the first amendment to make stupid comments like you did but that won't be around long after the 2nd amendment is abolished. Just ask Stalin, Hitler, Mao, and Castro.

Hear not here

Grammer police need not comment

when the ladies open my package of meat it reads 3/27/1977

That should be thrown out, it's no good to anybody.

When the ladys open my package of meat it says Go for it "I'm shootin blanks."

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When the ladys open my package of meat it says TNYUSA but after a few tugs and jerks it says

8=Ticonderoga, New York, United States of America=)

when NCIC runs it will it come back clean?

It's a good possibility we will never know, I'm glad the employee has a habit of washing things before he lets the public handle it? He should have gone one step further and changed the date on the box of meat. He may have lost his job over this one.

A very cheap handgun in frozen "meat" - that can't be any good news out of this..

It is all the Stoners in Colorado and their fault. The stupidity just became legal.........

I'm sure he's lost his job over this.

Actually, there are no aliens in Roswell these days. Not after the residents discovered they "taste like chicken."

About 10 years ago I went to Roswell specifically to get abducted by aliens (half joking), I was disappointed when all I got was a filthy dry and dusty 'campground' on the edge of town.

At least I made it down there to see it at least once in my lifetime.

Yep ...... they're packin 'em in to the packin plants.

But apparently not to college. Was just reading that for the 2012-13 school year, the University of Colorado set aside a whole 440-person dorm for students who were over 21 and had a valid pistol permit. They would be allowed to carry pistols anywhere in the dorm or on campus except to events that require a ticket. This put a huge squeeze on dorm room availability when they did it, leaving many students on the local economy for housing.

Unfortunately, to date, the University of Colorado has a completely unoccupied 440-person dorm. Not a single student took them up on it. I guess they figured that it didn't help to be armed if everybody else was armed too. But because it is that way in the 2012-13 Catalog, the university must leave the entire dorm unoccupied through June in case some student wants to live there. It has cost them (and the students) millions in a really stupid experiment. LOL

I know it is a little off-topic, but I guess people in Colorado dont "cling" to their guns as much as we thought.

Chris, I think the problem they have is mostly with demographics.

"Over 21 and had a valid pistol permit", huh? You see very few holders of concealed carry weapons permits under the age of about 26 or so and the vast majority of people who are licensed to carry a handgun have seen age 30 come and go some time back. If you're going back to school at an age where you're likely to have a reasonable handgun and a license to carry it, you're most likely going to be attending a local community college versus a state university and you're probably also a part time student who is not looking to move into a dormitory as you've already got a home for yourself and your family.

A passable handgun suitable for personal protection use will set you back a minimum of $300, and that's really lowballing it. $500-600 is a lot more realistic. Throw in another hundred or a few for an acceptable holster, some extra magazines, and maybe a pouch or two for the spare mag. A good belt for that holster and any magazine pouches usually factors into that, too, as most commonly available belts most of us already wear usually aren't up to the task. So now we're up to maybe $700. A training course is more often than not required to get a license to carry a concealed weapon, and that can range from a few dozen to several hundred dollars. Permits are not given out, there's virtually always a fee. Sometimes its fairly nominal, sometimes it's an eye opener. Maybe half the places require that you have to appear at a firing range with an instructor and actually qualify with your handgun and certify as proficient before you can apply for your permit. There will almost always be a fee in this somewhere, and could be from $20 - 50. Most people are NOT especially good shots with a handgun and will be practicing until they're comfortable they can actually pass a qualification, less they waste the money they have to pay for the fee if they fail and have to do it over again later. Figure a box of 50 pistol cartridges at $20 these days, and most people will fire several to a dozen boxes before they feel like they know what they're doing with a handgun.

By the time you've got your permit, it is very easy to have $1000 sunk into the affair.

Most of us weren't exactly spring chickens anymore by the time we were established enough where we could afford to part with a thousand bucks on something that we absolutely had to 'keep to ourselves', which is what the law requires with a concealed weapon. Young men don't seem to mind spending money on flashy stuff like clothes and vehicles that everyone else can see, but they skimp on anything else that doesn't directly enhance their image. If a handgun you're licensed to carry is 'enhancing your image' in any way, you're most likely violating your permit and breaking the law.

If the university catalog stated that a dorm was reserved for over 21 students with a valid permit, virtually everyone reading it who would say, 'hey, that's me!' had no intentions of living in a dorm at that point in their lives.

Chris-749391
But apparently not to college.....

What you neglected to mention is that the students would not be allowed to keep weapons overnight in that dormitory. They would still have to be turned in and stored at the campus Public Safety office or in some other similar facility. Who would want to have to go and sign out/sign in their weapon on a daily basis? A concealed weapon won't do you much good after it's locked up as you trudge back to your dorm late at night.

Also this CCW dorm was nothing more than an in your face response back door way of resisting compliance with state law after the univeristy administration lost the legal fight in front of the state supreme court.

I have to agree. A dorm for people legally allowed to carry weapons would be pointless since those with the means to obtain a permit, probably have the means to not have to live in a dorm. They're much more likely to be smart enough to simple get an apartment of campus. When I was in college, an apartment with a room mate was much less than a dorm room, and you had the option of not buying a meal plan that way. Some dining halls had great food, others.... well let's just say not so much.

This stood out to me as well, but if it was packaged with meat, it could be possible that it had frost and/or blood from the meat on it.

I know meat is typically frozen from warehouse to stores until it is placed out for consumers; however, in practice sometimes the meat can start to thaw during loading and unloading operations. Considering he works in meat operations; his job probably requires him to wash anything that comes into contact with raw meat products.

lalo

Perhaps the employee picked it up to examine it and then wanted to remove their prints before turning it in.

I would hope he had gloves on. ®¿®

I got that too... Such a good citizen... Clean a strange gun up in a box of meat? Better look at the finder, a little closer...

Most likely it was covered with frost and the man wiped it off to get a look at it.

It'd be tough if it was an actual Colt Government Model in .38 Super. If my understanding is correct, Rock Island Armory is a fairly low-end version of the US M1911 specification pistol produced by Armscor, which is from either the Philippines or South Korea. The gun can't be any more than about five years old in my estimation.

I'm also thinking that the .38 Super offering held more than seven cartridges in its magazine, possibly eight or even nine. It could be eight in the mag and one in the chamber for a total of nine when 'fully loaded'. If only seven were recovered, one has to wonder if the gun had been fired a time or two before it was placed in the case of meat...

True vacuum packed meat can stay good for that long.

Lem-941398

Years ago I did part time work in a local gun shop.

Many Mexican Nationals came in looking for 38 supers.

and just how/why were you selling to non citizens? FYI it is a federal crime to transport, or assist in the transport, of firearms into or out of Mexico. The ONLY legal point of purchase of any firearm in Mexico is in Mexico City and is run by the Mexican military. Lot of good that gun control is doing them of course.

ANOTHER idiot troll creating ANOTHER conspiracy theory!!! YOU deranged dopes are the reason WHY I carry everywhere I go.

Why would a search on a database server take months ?

Maybe it isn't a high priority since it isn't linked to an ongoing criminal investigation.

The firearms tracing process is a valuable service provided by ATF to the global law enforcement community. Firearms tracing is the systematic tracking of the movement of a recovered firearm from its manufacturer or introduction into U.S. commerce by the importer through the distribution chain (wholesaler/retailer) to the first retail purchase. A firearms trace is typically conducted when a law enforcement agency discovers a firearm at a crime scene and wishes to know the origin of that firearm in order to develop investigative leads. That information helps to link a suspect to a firearm in a criminal investigation; identify potential traffickers; and, when sufficiently comprehensive tracing is undertaken in a given community, detect in-state, interstate and international patterns in the sources and kinds of crime guns. ATF processed more than 340,000 crime-gun trace requests for thousands of domestic and international law enforcement agencies in fiscal year 2009.

ATF traces U.S.-sourced firearms recovered in foreign countries for law enforcement agencies in those countries.