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Subscribe to RSSA man was shot and killed in busy midtown Manhattan near Columbus Circle on Monday afternoon at the height of the holiday shopping season, according to authorities.
Police say the gunman approached the 31-year-old victim from behind as he walked westbound on 58th Street between Broadway and Seventh Avenue, shooting him in the back of the head outside a Catholic school just before 2 p.m.
The suspect, wearing a dark jacket with a khaki hood, then got into a parked gray or silver Lincoln MKZ. The car, driven by someone else, sped away, police said.
The victim was pronounced dead at the hospital. Shell casings for the silver semi-automatic weapon were found at the scene.
People on the street who heard the gunshot and saw the man fall ran to the firehouse on the block to get help.
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People are nuts. Luckily no other innocent people got shot (not sayin' thie guy was innocent, might have been a hit)
Well, lets just hope good detective work finds the trigger man and justice is served.
What an absolutely senseless crime. To have someone just walk up to a person on the street,with witnesses all around and kill that person is awful. Obviously the murderer had no fears about being seen.
This is simply cold blooded killing. I have no doubt this killer would kill strike again in a moment.I pray the victim's loved ones will receive whatever help they need to get through this, while the horrible person who did this deed is swiftly caught and gets put away in prison with the key thrown away.
Windancersong, this seems more of a hit, and not some random kiling. So I wouldn't worry too much about this guy killing again, in the sense that innocent people will be randomly shot.
And the solution to this problem is, obviously, more guns, bigger magazines, and concealed carry permits for everyone.
Wearing a hoodie and getting into a Lincoln? hmmmm......well, that narrows the field of suspects.
I guess it does in a stereo typical world. But what better way to throw police off than to drive a car and wear clothing that is stereo typical?
don I hope that was sarcasm...
The suspect walked up behind him, shot him in the head and then got into a parked vehicle right near by where the driver was waiting and sped away? Ever try parking in NYC? This was pre-planned and they were waiting for the victim. To me this meant they knew the victims daily pattern. And seeing this was a normal route and time which happens to be in front of a school at 2:00 PM I really hope this man was not picking up his child at school. So sad for a child to get out of school and see their father like this.
It was
Well, it just might be that someone among city and police authorities already know who did this; at least who is responsible for hiring the "hit-man".
By the way, JFC - are you a "people"?
Just another reason NOT to live in NYC.
The NRA will be all over this as it "proves" the need for all citizens to carry weapons. Just think, if half of the people who witnessed the crime carried guns, they could have shot and killed the criminal and justice would be served without wasting taxpayer dollars on a trial, jail or clogging up the legal system with this case. A true win-win. We could even set up a ammunition reimbursement program.
Unfortunately, most people would not be able to react that quickly and would, more than likely, shoot an innocent person. So, when the NRA points to this incident as proof that guns are needed, tell them to 'piss off'.
@Just Wrong
I agree. If you've ever been to Columbus Circle at that time of day would know that:
1- As IvanMiami has already stated, you just can't casually park in that area. They were probably there for hours.
2- You DON'T want people discharging firearms trying to exact justice in that area.
There are many women and children around there during that time of day. Nannies often take children to Central Park to run around, or just futz around instead of sitting in an apartment. Traffic is constant and there are also the horse drawn carriages and food vendors in that area.
Between the witnesses and surveillance cameras they will find the perpetrators.
Good thing New York has strict gun laws, if they actually worked as intended I am guessing this wouldn't have happened. Yeah right. The NRA doesn't condone murder either.
The loosest gun restrictions and the biggest gun in the world won't protect you if your assailant is going to sneak up on you. So unless everyone develops Spider Sense and the accuracy of an action hero, crap like this is going to happen.
That said, given the circumstances of the killing and the way the killer fled the scene, this had to be planned. Might want to see if the victim had any debts or disagreements with anyone he knew in life.
No Don the obvious answer is more gun laws, 'cause the ones that exist now are so successful at stopping shootings. Find something else to whine about, will ya.
Posts like yours just go to prove you can't fix stupid. Please provide some documentation where the NRA says we need more guns. Go ahead, we'll wait. If you had the ability to read and comprehend you would know the NRA wants people to keep the right to own firearms. But if you actually admitted that you would have nothing to say. Right?
I'm thinking one of my fellow New Yorkers got got somebody in Brooklyn angry. i doubt it was random because of the get away car. Lot's of questions to be asked before this one is done. Don't expect people to come forward on this. Native new yorkers know when to be quiet.
Sounds like an execution to me. Ya know in the past we used to get a description of the perpetrator. WHO WHAT WHEN WHERE HOW AND WHY. If you cant answer those questions your not finished. What race was the perpetrator???? Stop soft selling us on what happened and tell us the truth! And dont give us any of this gun control crap. Havnt you heard of O.J. Simpson? He could have bought and used any gun he wanted but he chose to use a knife instead. Knives are the weapon of choice of many caribbean blacks. Its a lust for blood thing.
You had to know that the anti-gun morons would use this to spread their agenda. Liberals must really love tragedies, it fuels their hateful fire.
It does seem like a planned hit, so hopefully no one else is in danger.
A hoodie and a Lincoln... Yes, It must have been a professional athlete. As far as carry permits.... The legal ones are NOT the ones you need to worry about. I highly doubt this perp was carrying his gun legally, especially in NYC where you cannot. Yes, we need more gun laws for criminals to ignore like we need a hole in the head.....
Actually Gmoney, was the guy who shot up the movie theater using an illegal gun? What about the guy who shot up Virginia tech? Maybe the one who shot congresswoman Giffords? My guess is you know the answer to all three of those. I could keep giving you more examples but you won't get the point anyway. So stop pretending all criminals use illegal guns and only "good guys" have legally purchased ones.
Always wear protection!
Mr. Burns
Why would you just simply assume that the "anti-gun morons" as you call it are only Liberals. And then you assume "Liberals must really love tragedies, it fuels their hateful fire". Your comment, thus far, has been the most disrespectful comment here. Believe it or not Mr. Burns, plenty of "US" Republicans also believe gun laws as written currently, are not effective. And plenty of my Republican friends also believe that there should be gun-laws in this country and that the NRA has way too much influence over the party. I am a Republican, unfortunately....unrepresented in this last election, but have been a victim of gun violence myself and take personal offense for anyone, Independent, Conservative, Liberal, Democrat, or Republican to insinuate that anyone loves tragedies. You assume a lot.....you know what the old saying is about those who assume.......
Tired69
They also don't condone reasonable measure to reduce the number of hand gun and assault weapon murders in this country.
By the way, does anyone other than a teenaged boy think that "69" is a cool part of a screen name?
I've got a feeling that, at the least, if they do discover the identity of just who was behind this, they wouldn't be surprised. It's probably a name and a face they've been familiar with for awhile now. The trick is proving it to a degree useful for prosecuting it, and that is assuming that they have the gumption to get up and do something about it. Yes, it's a murder. Yes, murder is a capital offense. Yes, they don't want people committing murder on their streets. But depending on exactly who was murdered, and by whom, sometimes the powers-that-be decide it's best to leave 'well enough' alone and worry about other things...
You're joking, right? See if the victim had any debts or disagreements? As if the debts or disagreements that would be resolved by a hit are any kind of public record!
Seriously, this case is probably an illustration of something that not everyone seems to fully understand. YOUR ODDS OF BEING MURDERED INCREASE EXPONENTIALLY IF YOU ARE A CRIMINAL OR ASSOCIATE WITH CRIMINALS.
If you're an average citizen, people who have an issue with you might file a lawsuit or a criminal complaint against you. If you're a criminal, the other criminals you interact with that might find a problem with you aren't going to be calling the police or sending their lawyer after you. They'll either come after you themselves, or else they'll send their thugs after you. The outcome isn't likely to be pretty, either.
It's hard to do good business with crooks. If you're a thief, fellow thieves tend to have a nasty habit of turning against you. Greed, naturally. If drugs are your thing, disputes tend to arise involving the price and quality of delivered goods, assuming they are actually delivered, and collecting payment doesn't always work so smoothly. You might be selling drugs, and upholding your end of the deal, but the crazy person you sold the stuff to starts accusing you of selling him stuff that was cut down, or that you shorted him on the amount he felt he'd paid for. Doesn't matter if it isn't true, really, if he's got a gun pointed at you when he's making that accusation. He might even 'forget' that part about giving you the opportunity to make it right before he pulls the trigger...
It would be very fair to state that fully 3/4 of the people shot and killed in the US are either career criminals (thieves, drug traffickers, illicit drug users, gang members, etc.) or else people connected to them. In that case, people close to criminals may be in the wrong place at the wrong time when a killing is carried out, or else they may be family or domestic partners of criminals, who, not being upstanding citizens themselves, tend to get ugly when they're angry.
Sounds like a contract killing to me!
Don't buck the union in NYC! The goons will get ya.
But aren't handguns bannd in NYC??????? how could this happen?? no guns in NYC ....RIGHT?????
And people the NRA does not promote everyone having a gun and unrestricted access to them, get a life!!!!
Annie-322924
Wearing a hoodie and getting into a Lincoln? hmmmm......well, that narrows the field of suspects.
Careful Annie...you can't call a spade a spade here.......they'll kick you off....
It's the Christmas shopping season you jack ass. As for the shooting,probably a score has been settled.
Gang initiation: kill someone.
Xbonz - did you read Don's SECOND post. This place need a sarcasm icon or people need to indicate that at the end of their posts.
I agree though, this was a planned hit and they person did not see it coming. The only other thing is that if SOMEONE ELSE had seen it THEY may have been able to do something......
@Idaho-Steven
Yes I read his second post. His sarcasm was evident, but you have misinterpreted it. He wants the exact opposite of what he posted, I got that, you didn't.
@don97524
There is no such thing as a reasonable measure to reduce the number of hand gun and"assault weapons" deaths in this country short of, what I'm sure is your idea, taking away all firearms.
By the way, what are assault weapons? Where can I buy one? Do you have an actual definition or are you just parroting the inane dribble spewed by the lame stream media? Oh yeah, how many deaths come at the hands of "assault weapons" wielders?
Now do a little research and tell me how many children are killed in swimming pools each year and then tell me how we are going to end that travesty. Ban swimming pools?
Stolen gun. Paid assassin. Mob or drug gang. More gun laws will only make it more difficult for those who abide by them, since assassins seldom abide by the law anyway.
If it was a stolen gun... from whom was it stolen from? Just saying...
Probably more like given to the criminals by Eric Holder (Attorney General of the DOJ.)
@onebadb1: because he made it easier to get guns? don't follow your logic there.
The BATF and NYPD will pursue this crime all the way to Eric Holders lack of knowledge.
Was it a "BLUE" bullet?
If it was a drug gang hit they would of sprayed the whole area the guy was walking in . Probably would've missed him and hit a bunch of innocents.
Not necessarily, Rayko.
New York City isn't perfect, but it isn't like Mexico where the Cartels can kill with impunity. I think that if they stopped to go on a rampage, they wouldn't have time to flee before the cops arrived. And given the type of security the city has in the post 9/11 era, such an act would be incredibly stupid for them. The NYPD is equipped like a small army.
And if they did manage to get away with it, the media would probably call it a terrorist attack and whole damn country would be looking for them.
No, better to go in with a scalpel instead of a sledgehammer.
Gun laws can't stop the shootings. Banning hand guns all together will. The right to bare arms is about owning a rifle to protect yourself and nation, not about owning a Saturday night special.
Thank you constitutional law professor george. How would this country function without ignorant people making great leaps in judgement to push their agenda?
You ask where did he get the gun. Mexico, The Attorney General Sale is going on right now, While supplies last. Check out the Obama special on all handguns. Get them now before the government bans them. Then the prices will really go up.
Really? Banning handguns will stop the shootings? Do you even hear what you are saying? It's not like they started producing handguns yesterday and need to track down 147 of them to make the world safe, the numbers are a bit more overwhelming. Banning handguns would remove them from the law abiding citizens and who else? Certainly not the individuals out illegally shooting people.
Sorry, one last thing George.... Does "bare" arms mean they are naked?
My 357 has the nicest set of......
This was obviously an execution, so the police have to take a hard look at who the victim might have pissed off.
Making it illegal to bear or own a handgun will eventually take them off the street. Since criminals can't get any more, evey time one is caught means one (or fifty...) are unavailable for any other criminal to use; any routine traffic stop that includes a gun in the car means another unavailable, plus an illegal weapon owner in jail, where he might meet up with a 350-pound serial rapist who's very, very lonely... One by one, they will all be taken out of circulation, and won't be replaced. And THAT will be a nicer America to live in. Who ever heard of a drive-by with a knife that accidentally kills a 6-year-old two houses away...? Or the massacre of an entire theater crowd with a hatchet...? A personally-weaponless populace isn't afraid of foreign attack as long as it also has a professional military with F-15s, Abrams tanks, and ballistic missile submarines. They're just extremely handicapped in trying to kill each other.
The voice of sanity in the midst of people who are anti-guns...a breath of fresh air! I don't own a gun myself. In fact, I have only touched one once in my life. However, anyone with half a brain should realize that it is not the people who have permits to own guns that are going around killing people with them...it's the criminals who are doing that. Go ahead, say that they are stealing them from the people who have the permits. That argument makes no sense, either. I believe that people who are responsible have the right to bear arms and this right should not be taken away from them.
TisEyerish... you're right. Nobody who legally purchases guns would EVER use one to do wrong. Just ask the Denver movie shooter, the Virginia Tech shooter and the guy who show Congresswoman Giffords. I can name a LOT more people like them if you need to ask more.
george pauljohn, your total ignorance of the Constitution and the Second Amendment is mind-boggling!
Spudbucket - Clearly you have not read the Second Amendment yourself. You're being as ignorant on the issue as the commentor you're insulting. There is no specification in the Second Amendment as to the type of "arms". All George was saying was to eliminate the use of handguns. Not all guns. Perhaps before you start name calling on the issue- read the Supreme Court verdict in District of Columbia v. Heller. This Supremes decided the Second Amendment gives the citizen the right to bear a firearm and to use that arm "for traditionally lawful purposes..." I think the general theory of most anti-handgun supporters have is, rarely are handguns used for "lawful" or self-defense purposes. If you're using the gun for a "lawful" purpose, then there should be no need to conceal it, hence, no need for a handgun (or any gun for that matter) which is small enough that it can be concealed.
If the shooter had been carrying a 32+ oz soda he'd already be in custody.
For all you gun grabbers, assault rifles have been banned from the general population since 1934. The Clinton phony assault rifle ban did nothing but ban ugly firearms. NYC has the strictest gun control laws on the books yet accomplishes nothing. This appears to be a "hit" that no law could have prevented. Now people of NYC how about doing us all a favor and kept your nutty mayor under control as his ignorance should be an embarrassment to you all..
No description of the race of the shooter or the victim.
Why not? It makes me wonder why the media so often
will not describe perps and victims of perps leaving the
reader to guess their race.
are you that naive that you have to ask "what race"?????
Its NYC gunowner, it could have been any number of races. So pipe the silly stereotypes down.
Probably because the shooter was hearing a hoodie, so no one could get a look at his face and describe his race.
Ban handguns.
I believe they are banned in NYC ? Exactly every responsible gun owners point - if you ban guns, the only ones left with guns are criminals who are willing to break the law ? Why can't people understand this ?
One shot one kill, only one race of stereotype shooter is that efficient.....
professional hit? i'm guessing it was one of my pizan's lol. Hey Louie! did you do dat? /jk
How can you ban handguns when the government make sure criminals get them in Mexico. Ban handguns to everyone except the criminals. Thats our government, thinking about everyone except the American. (can we still refer to ourselves as Americans)
Ban hoodies! That way the cameras will take a picture of the culprit.
Another goodfella is sleeping with the fishes. And another freelance enforcer is celebrating with a mound of nose candy as reward.
Gunowner, what race are Jared Loughner, Eric Harris, Dylan Kledold, James Holmes... and a host of others like them?
Mafia hit! Mafia hit!
News says car drove up, someone got out, and shot the guy in the eye, then got back in. So yeah mob hit or drug deal. Good luck finding the perp.
Mob hit is two in the chest and one in the head, this sounds like US Security agencies.
Too many cameras in NYC, just a matter of time before shooter video emerges.
LINCLON MKZ....drug dealers love these...need more info on this story....
Agreed. The shooter is described as wearing a hood, but no one saw anything else because he moved fast. "Like a ghost" was a description. I'm curious to see who the victim is here.
New York Post reporting that both the victim and the shooter were/are black. But this is the New York Post, so take it as if it were from Fox
yea absolutely couldn't be a person of color! Darn fox news for reporting the truth and messing up your big warm fuzzy delusional world.
gunowner45 , whether black, blue, green, or freaking white.....it's wrong !!!!!!!
Believe whatever you want gunowner45 -- I can sort of tell by your comments where you're coming from. I'd rather wait to hear further information before jumping to any conclusions.
Even if you're right and both the shooter and victim were minorities - so f'n what. A criminal is a criminal regardless of skin tone so to be honest with you I could care less what color they were, nor should you.
Were you asking about race when I guy went into a Sikh Temple and shot a bunch of people up including a few brave officers who risked life and limb? No, probably not.
Were you asking about race when a gunman went into a movie theater and shot the place up while guys threw themselves over their dates? No, I doubt it even came up.
Why do you care now? And Glad6092266 - why even go there? Is this baiting of some sort to draw out some mythical Liberal apologists? Further fuel for your notions about race in this country?
A criminal is a criminal - all races are capable of it - all eras of human civilization have seen it. Would it be relevant if this were the 30's during prohibition, or would you find a way to blame on anyone who isn't you?
Well spoken Ghost!!!!!!!
ninja hit man strikes again. Film at eleven.
So gunowner is defending Fox news, and making racists comments. And they say both aren't typical of Fox news watchers. Add Tea Party and we have the basic combo. LOL
The victim, while black, was walking down the street in a suit. He was from L.A. So this is probably due to some bad deal. But it doesn't mean the victim was some drug dealer.
NYC, Crime of all types happen everyday. You are only hearing about one of many serious crimes that take place every minute of everyday in the crime infested city.
I was thinking the same thing. Isn't this sort of thing a daily occurrence in NYC? Or is the specific area where it happened supposed to be better?
Not Midtown Manhattan.
Manhattan is clean, generally, and a work place a tourist spot. This isn't a usual occurance unless its a hit.
Uh, no, unlike what you may have heard, this sort of senseless killing rarely occurs in Manhattan. The Bronx, Brooklyn, parts of Queens, sure, but Manhattan is a lot safer than most people think. I've lived there for fifteen years, and I've never been shot, mugged, or robbed.
you are funny!
"I've lived there for fifteen years, and I've never been shot, mugged, or robbed."
... so far.
Murders per capita in NYC have gone way down. most murders are love gone wrong or drug related. nyc is over 10 million people, then ad the millions more that pass through each day. The odds of getting shot in nyc are not really that high.
Some people can live in the most vile, crime-infested cities in the planet and die peacefully at the age of 85, while others could live in the sleepiest, Mid-westerniest suburb and be horrifically eviscerated by a serial killer.
Living in New York doesn't mean that you're inevitably going to be attacked...
It does sound like a hit
I'm guessing the license plates on the getaway car were stolen too, if the car itself wasn't stolen.
If only the victim had a handgun to protect himself.
Oh sure, a gun fight in midtown Manhattan? Can you imagine the carnage?
Irrelevant in this case. It was a surprise hit. The victim would've needed a rear-view camera.
Even if he had a gun it wouldn't have mattered. He got shot from behind.
He didn't need a gun to protect himself. He needed eyes on the back of his head.
Now he has one.
A blind one, mickey phillips. Ha ha, you're funny.
I think namehere was making a poor facetious attempt at sarcasm and humor.
Good one mickey! lol
If only everyone in NY was packin' heat this sort of thing would never happen.
More Guns = Peaceful Society
//scarcasm off
I'm all for arming the citizens for their own defense, however, it wouldn't have mattered if this victim was armed or not. He was shot from behind and probably didn't suspect a thing.
Hell, better disarm the cops in NYC. The last major incident they were involved in innocent bystanders got shot.
Nice guy in a hoodie.
NevadaJ,
Ridiculous thing to say, never expecting something like this even if he were armed he never would have had time to even put his hand on his piece.
Another hoodie? Oh, here we go again.
Stinks of gang-related retaliation...
How can he get shot? Arn't handguns illegal in NY?
No, they are not, thanks to the Supreme Court.
I was wondering the same thing. I bet he really gagged on a bagel.
Toughest gun laws in the country.. Everyone should feel so safe..
raddave, they are illegal in nyc no matter what the supreme court says.the only people with handguns are criminals and very well connected politically. and nyc has one of the highest gun crime rates in the country. so much for stricter laws alowering crime. so take you liberal rant somewhere else.
If you're from Upstate or Western you ought to know there are alot of dysfunctional people out there that don't follow the Laws of the Public.
A professional hit. But at Columbus Circle? REALLY??? That seems like the most un-professional place to kill someone. I guess they chose that spot because the victim likely felt safe in the crowd, but STILL...
Maybe they were making a statement that it doesn't matter where you are, you aren't safe from the mafia/drug gang retaliation. If they're willing to do it in broad daylight in one of the high populated and trafficked areas, I imagine, they can and will do a lot worse. Be safe New Yorkers.
It was a block off from Columbus circle down the side street at 58th near the fire house. Its a a street with a lot of construction going on. Pretty noisy and it's a rainly day, so less foot traffic, but still wittnesses. It does sound like a hit. But what a chance to take to get into a car on a gridlock alert day.
Isn't Columbus Circle the place where Joe Colombo got shot, supposedly on the Gallos' orders?
The victim was an aspiring rapper from the west coast with a criminal past. While he was now clean and studying to be a lawyer, something tells me he was involved in more than his family knew.
Hmm, the plot tickens... East Coast/West Coast war again?
This just shows how well the street thugs follow the laws. I doubt that the shooter had a permit to carry and most likely would not have passed the back ground check. The NRA or the Redneck trailer trash had nothing to do with this one. Can't even blame it on Obama or the Republican Party. Or the lax gun laws in NYC. Have to place the blame on the shooter alone. Just like it should be with any gun crime or any other crime of violence.
A hit by any other name..........
...is Bob Costas in New York?
Someone was shot with a gun in Manhattan? How can this be? Guns are illegal in Manhattan!
No they aren't Seven, thanks to the wingnuts on the Supreme Court.
It was a bad gun. Only guns can make a good person go bad.
raddave, do you really think it was a legal gun? Not.
Even if they were illegal, a hitman would still have one. Oh, no, wait, he would probably be deterred by the law that states he is not allowed to own or carry a gun...NOT. Don't think gun restrictions would have helped the guy that took a bullet to the head in this case.
Not to mention the US Supreme Court ruled that criminals do not have to register firearms as it would be a violation of their constitutional rights. Oh my what is Bloomberg too do!
Maybe this is the beginning of a gang war.
Sounds like a "hit" to me.
target not random i'm sure