California exodus as thousands quit state for Texas, Ariz., elsewhere

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About 100,000 more people moved away from California in 2011 than relocated to the Golden State, according to the latest report from the U.S. Census Bureau.

In recent years, unemployment in the state has skyrocketed, while the cost of living has increased.

So, where are these Californians going? The Census Bureau calculated that the most popular destination is Texas, with 58,992 residents relocating there along with a number of California companies.

Arizona was next on the list, with 49,635 people moving, then Nevada, Washington, and Oregon.

Although in smaller numbers, others are still relocating to the Golden State. Texans make up the largest number of new California residents with 37,387 people, according to the report. That is followed by people from Washington (36,481), Nevada (36,159), Arizona (35,650), and New York (25,269).

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In total, 468,428 people have moved to California from other states, and 269,772 have moved to the state from other countries, according to the Census Bureau.

Economic experts are optimistic that California’s economy has started picking up steam, and may halt the movement of residents out of the state.

“We expect over the next couple of years that we will add jobs,” said Robert Kleinhenz, chief economist with the Los Angeles County Economic Development Corporation.

"This year, we’ve added jobs in California at a faster pace than in the nation as a whole. So, we are moving in right direction. As that happens, we’ll see the migration numbers turn around some," he added.

The agriculture industry, one of the state’s largest, has been particularly affected by fewer undocumented immigrants crossing the border, deterred from coming to the U.S. because of high unemployment and a developing middle class in Mexico. 

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Californians moving to Texans - Texans moving to California.......... I wonder who knows what? Dead leaves tend to fall on their own but the nuts usually need harvesting - think about it. Sheep, cattle, people - doesn't seem to take much to stampede either of them anymore.

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Reply#27 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:17 AM EST

Can we just give california to mexico already, even mexicans could run the state better than libs do.

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Reply#28 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:20 AM EST

As long as they stay out of Idaho they bring their crap to our state and everything they hate about California they bring here. They have allowed their state to turn to crap and want to make the rest the same.

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Reply#29 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:21 AM EST

I would wager that the majority of those "Texans" moving to Ca.are Hispanics as Ca caters to them. That being said I would not live in either state but for different reasons.

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Reply#30 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:21 AM EST

So, in 5 years Texas can become a blue state, sweet. :)

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Reply#31 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:21 AM EST

I grew up in Sacramento sixty years ago, and I got tired of getting my ass kicked by Hispanic gangs monthly. I got shot once there. I haven't been shot or beaten in the last fifty years, since I left. Guess I made a good move.

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Reply#32 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:24 AM EST

you're an idiot.

    #32.1 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:52 AM EST
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    The quite invasion.

    As the new demographics will show the ever increasing influx of Latinos, both illegals and higher birth rate, are pushing the demoralized white Americans northward. Like a swarm of killer bees they keep coming, relentless with determination to conquer the hapless and demoralized Americans.

    How ironic, American government is spending billions of dollars every years to sustain the most powerful military force in history and they are losing their country to illegal aliens fighting with picks and shovels?

    What a farce.

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    Reply#33 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:25 AM EST

    There's been a Florida exodus too, more people leaving than arriving over the past few years. That's a new trend. So people don't want to live in overcrowded, too expensive places with bad government - wow now that's a shocker.

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    Reply#34 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:26 AM EST

    the funny thing is there are about 5 different Californias....the hippie, pot growers way up north, the goofballs from the bay and capital areas, the cowtowns in the center, California-tucky meth heads in the inland empire, and the real deal in the south. So Cal has everything!! losers leave it cause they get overwhelmed, can't hang, gotta find their true calling which is not being educated, open minded and progressive. Thanks to all of you that left !!

    you know why New Mexico is so cool? cause arizona blows and texas sucks!!!

    please both states, leave the union, we will send law teams pro bono to help you.

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    Reply#35 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:28 AM EST

    It is a shame, isn't it? That our silly government can't just let them do their own thing. I was thinking popcorn and news on the mexican drug cartels taking over the de-unionized Texas was going to be the best reality television we've had in a while....

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    #35.1 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:39 AM EST
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    The only one biggest think to wreck California are Mexican, Asian, South American illegal immigration. They drain the states of every last dollar they have.

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    Reply#36 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:31 AM EST

    I don't mind immigration, legal or illegal, as long as they're contributing to the bottom line. For this reason I really favor higher sales tax with a standard deduction on state taxes. That way, what legal citizens pay in sales tax, they'll get back at the end of the year. But illegal immigrants are out of luck. This is much better than income tax because, of course, many illegals don't file income taxes. But they do buy things!

    Once they notice the system isn't working in their favor, they'll leave on their own. And honestly, some already have left due to tighter welfare rules and lack of work.

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    #36.1 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:44 AM EST
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    Its funny how the worst state with the most useless people has the biggest say in the presidential election. Funny how all these libs are leaving their own created mess to infect someone else's state.

    Liberals, theyre like locusts. no offense locusts.

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    Reply#37 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:32 AM EST

    Actually its is us conservatives who are leaving this poor excuse for a state. The libs like it here as they get all the free entitlements. There are now more takers than tax payers so eventually Gov Moonbeam Brown will run out of OUR money.

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    #37.1 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:49 AM EST
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    Interestingly enough...currently Texas has a 16% poverty rate while California has a 13% poverty rate. However, Texas has a smaller population. So in reality, proportionately, there are more poor/welfare cases in the Texas formula of governance.

    Also the income per capita for Texans is only 39k whereas it is 51k for Californians.

    Sounds like a pretty sweet deal to sit tight as a Californian actually. As people leave, demand will go down, therefore rents *should* go down or at least stabilize. Texas on the other hand, will see a cost of living increase that will probably outpace the pay rate increases.

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    Reply#38 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:35 AM EST

    A Thought-3055252

    Interestingly enough, you appear to have had, selective criteria is as good a term as any other, to make your comparisons.

    While you hypothesize that "rents" *SHOULD* go down, you neglected to mention other elements such as a comparison of INCOME TAXES. California varies from 1% to 10.3%. Texas has a standard rate for ALL tax payers... 0%. So, maybe people are tired of paying Income Taxes to California. How about sales taxes. California varies from 7.25% to 8.75% which is the highest rate I noticed. Texas is 8.25% (however I believe vehicles and such are 6.25%).

    Need we look at gasoline prices? We all know Calirofnia has among, if not the highest, gas prices in the country.

    Yes there are many reasons for people to leave California. The general cost of living is only one of many.

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    #38.1 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:59 AM EST

    Taking the average income per capita of 51k, even paying 10% in income taxes only lowers my take home to 45k which is still above Texas' average income per capita. There is also a standard deduction for sales tax so it's impact is nearly negligible. The only individuals that might actually surpass the deduction in purchases are people that spend over 75k a year on stuff (food isn't taxed). Depending on where in the state you live, utilities range from dirt cheap to somewhat expensive.

    As I stated prior, the cost of living in California is really the only main problem. And that is primarily due to greed.

    I don't really count the cost of being progressive (gasoline tax to fund alternative energy research and development) as a negative. I mean, maybe everyone else is in love with their limited oil supplies, but I would like a future for my children that doesn't involve exploiting governments in other countries for oil. Geologists have pinned the world oil supply to become scarce by 2060 at our current consumption rates. Seeing as I'll still be alive at that time(under normal circumstances)...I'm all for getting this renewable energy issue knocked out asap.

    But...it's long-term vs. short-term perspective. It's sort of the same reason why we have public schools, right? We realized that a populace of retards wasn't going to serve us well in the long run... Unfortunately, other countries figured that out too and they're doing it better.

      #38.2 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:28 AM EST

      A Thought-3055252

      But...it's long-term vs. short-term perspective. It's sort of the same reason why we have public schools, right? We realized that a populace of retards wasn't going to serve us well in the long run... Unfortunately, other countries figured that out too and they're doing it better.

      I will agree with you that we are failing our children and their education. HOWEVER, I will submit that it is due to the continual dumbing down of the course material in an effort to ensure a child's "feelings" aren't hurt and we have nothing but "winners".

      There are winners and losers in life. To brainwash our children into a false sense of security by NOT failing them is much more detrimental to their development than allowing them to learn to cope with failure and disappointment.

      We're "graduating" functional illiterates from most schools today. We have people out in business and government today who cannot tell you who the United States fought in the Revolutionary War, or the War of 1812, much less the Civil War (even though it's fairly obvious from the name), or the World Wars 1 & 2. Most shocking was an answer of Viet Nam when asked about Korea.

      We have students graduating who have no idea who JFK was or that he was assinated. We have "graudates" who are using their fingers to count out change at the registers AFTER the machine told them the exact amount to be returned.

      I've even spoken to one "manager" in the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT who thought she would need a Passport and VISA to visit a site in New Mexico with me.

      We've dumbed down our educational system to placate people so their children wouldn't fail. I'm sorry, but those children NEED to fail, and continue going to school until they grasp the material or they quit. We've failed our children in the name of POLITICAL CORRECTNESS...

      I could go on, but I'm sure you really don't want to hear it. You believe that everyone is equal, regardless of capabilities. You believe it is proper to continue squandering scarce financial resources on the currently politically correct theme of the day.

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      #38.3 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:18 AM EST

      XD,

      We have failed our children by defunding schools and cutting the pay of the people we entrust to teach them. If our schools were not encouraged to pass children in an attempt to keep funding, things might change. but because schools are trying to get by on so little funds, the loss of funds due to children not passing bogus standardized tests, would be crippling. Unfortunately, schools are encouraged to pass kids in order to maintain their funding. Finland repeatedly ranks number 1 in the world for education. They do the opposite of how the U.S. does things. Their teachers are treated like doctors and lawyers. We need to start emulating them.

        #38.4 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 11:34 AM EST
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        Let's see, earthquakes, mud slides, forest fires and crazy people. I can't imagine why anyone would want to leave with all that excitement going on.

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        Reply#39 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:42 AM EST

        aaaand it is too bad they are coming to Washington state, California won't let a lot of the people become politicans there so they migrate to other places and run for office!!!

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        Reply#40 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:43 AM EST

        I left California 10 years ago. It was the free lunch state then (nobody expected to pay for anything and the state government pretty much obliged them) and I can only imagine how much worse it is now. Most of this started with Proposition 13 back in the late 70's.

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        Reply#41 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:45 AM EST

        I'm another Californian who is looking to relocate. Many of you are correct about the reasons so many of us are leaving this state. The insane tax and spending, building high speed rail train that goes nowhere at a cost excess of 85 billion, a solar farm in Death Valley at billions of dollars all in a broke state. The crazy entitlement programs, another tax increase just voted in, insane regulations on business, and on and on and on. Gov Brown will run out of other peoples very soon. I was born and raised in California and now I'm being ran out of my home because of the extreme left wing policies that is literally destroying the state. I'll be glad not to give anymore of my tax dollars to this state.

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        Reply#42 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:45 AM EST

        I just read that the homeless in California may get free cell phone w/250 minutes of usage time thrown in (compliments of the State of California). Presumably, this would give the homeless "a means to stay in touch with their families and provide a means to contact and be contacted by potential employers". This is an oxymoran! The "homeless" are typically not looking to 'stay in touch" or they wouldn't be 'homeless'. If they wanted a job, they would first have to show up to apply or at least e-mail a resume. Maybe the state should also contribute business attire so they look the part when they apply for a job. Free housing would allow them to have a place to shower up and hand the new suit the California government has provided. And of course they would need three squares a day so they have that 'fresh' look that seems to appeal to prospective employers. And of course, they will need job training skills so that their skill sdet matches the needs of the prospective employer.

        Wait a second, I just realized that money could be saved if they live in SanFrancisco. They could go naked to the interview! I am so out of touch.

        Ya just gotta love California. Why would anyone even think of moving? Oh yeah, they just passed a new tax on the 'rich'. Maybe that has a bearing? They just raised taxes on everyone (who pays taxes), maybe that has some bearing? They just passed a pollution tax, maybe that would influence some businesses?

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        Reply#43 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:47 AM EST

        The State of California is built on illegal drug consumption, illicit sex, baby killing, and junk science. California is actually becoming a third world country. This description sounds like Somalia!

          Reply#44 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:57 AM EST

          I think you're going to see a long term exodus of the folks who work hard and pay taxes. Ultimately, the voters who use their majority to give themselves perks at the expense of others will have no one but themselves to tax. That's when you'll see the population of CA drop precipitously.

          • 3 votes
          Reply#45 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:00 AM EST

          California is such a beautiful state - unfortunately a lot of the people are scum. I love visiting but would never live there.

          BTW - People are delusional if you they think having republicans govern states helps (yeah - they help the rich get richer and implement extreme right wing ideas).

          Most red states are Republican strong holds and they are the POOREST states in the union. It also seems like everyone from those states are either in jail or on the Jerry Springer show!

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          Reply#46 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:03 AM EST

          Yeah. I keep hearing that Texas is this supposed rich state but as far as I can tell...they have 44B in government expenditures and 39B in tax revenues. Sounds like a deficit to me, albeit a much smaller one than California's hole.

          But the whole..."we're self sufficient" (with our gigantic oil subsidies) and "we're the richest state" (with our deficit) really confuses me, to be honest. Unless if by rich they mean those who make more are taxed less.

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          #46.1 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:07 AM EST

          A Thought-3055252

          Yeah. I keep hearing that Texas is this supposed rich state but as far as I can tell...they have 44B in government expenditures and 39B in tax revenues. Sounds like a deficit to me, albeit a much smaller one than California's hole.

          That's true if you break it down by year, Texas does two year budgets, not one. It's the one thing most other states don't understand and are always saying we're running on a defecit, but in all actuality we're not.

            #46.2 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:49 AM EST
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            California is just too big to be run by one governor. It is time to split it up into two states. Even though North California and South California would look prettier on the map, I personally like the idea of splitting it up into East California and West California.

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            Reply#47 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:17 AM EST

            I think that was actually tried many years ago (to split into California and ""Upper California") but Southern Cali voted it down because they would have to pay for the water and other things they get from Northern California and they wouldn't be sustainable if broken into two states.

              #47.1 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:51 AM EST
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              California will prove itself to be indomitable! Remember when we all thought a melting pot was a good thing.

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              Reply#48 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:20 AM EST

              A melting pot would have been better. What we have now is a salad bowl with each group fighting for their issues as being more important than the other group. If we had really blended and disregarded our differences, we might actually be able to get things done.

              But we have the religious fighting with the gays and the pro-choice peeps.

              The rich are fighting with the middle class.

              The unions are fighting with the corporations.

              That's what is really making the mess. If everyone just adopted a spirit of sacrifice for the sake of Californian prosperity, that would do wonders (can't even type that without cracking up). But yeah, that'll never happen. Nor will the melting pot ever happen. It's not good enough to be an American citizen. You also have to look a certain way, be a certain body shape, have a certain income level, have friends in certain circles. We have a very exclusive-minded society given that the vast majority of us are national born citizens.

                #48.1 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:36 AM EST
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                Try to make more sense of your next article. This thing has more holes than Swiss cheese.

                  Reply#49 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:25 AM EST

                  They used to say "As California goes, so goes the country."

                  Does that mean the entire US is becoming a "third-world country" like California?

                    Reply#50 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:27 AM EST

                    This state does cost alot to live in. Alot of the state laws suck too. It has crossed my mind a few times to move out of this state.

                      Reply#51 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:28 AM EST
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