Calif. man charged for having 145 pounds of explosives

A Bay Area man was ordered Thursday to stand trial for allegedly possessing explosives and growing marijuana, according to local news reports.

William Myles Harrell of Brisbane, Calif., was charged for having 145 pounds of explosives in his home and running a small pot growing operation, the Bay Area News Group reported. Prosecutors filed charges against the 46-year-old-man that include drug sales and child endangerment, according to the newspaper group.

On Oct. 1, police officers arrived at Harrell's home to investigate a fight with his former girlfriend and discovered the explosives, $36,100 in cash and about 80 grams of marijuana, according to the Bay Area News Group. 

Authorities said the commercial-grade Iremite brand explosives were "stable," but could have been set off in an unforeseen situation like a house fire, NBCBayArea.com reported.


In Moss Beach, Calif., authorities also found a trailer containing a pot growing operation connected to Harrell, according to the Bay Area News Group.

Harrell's ex-girlfriend is among those identifying him with having connections to sovereign citizen ideology, according to the newspaper group. Sovereigns don't think they have to pay taxes and believe they can choose which laws to obey and which to ignore, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center. But in court Thursday, prosecutors did not mention Harrell's possible link to sovereign citizen ideology, the Bay Area News Group reported.

Harrell's defense attorney, Brian Worthington, told the newspaper group that his client denies connection with the sovereigns. Worthington also said there's no evidence the explosives were his client's and disputed a charge that his client had an illegal assault rifle.

While Harrell remains free on $500,000 bail, he was ordered back for arraignment on Jan. 29.

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I'm sure the explosives just walked in the door while he had his head turned, and then transformed into a kitchen chair.

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Reply#1 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:23 PM EST

So, is owning explosives against the law in CA?

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#1.1 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:11 AM EST

Not only are explosives illegal to own, but anything that can make explosives. If you buy too much fertilizer for your garden you can go to jail because some fertilizers can make explosives. Freedom is slowly evaporating in this country. There are so many laws, that most people break daily its ridiculous. Just texting a joke is illegal. I'm not talking about bomb joke, I'm saying something as simple as 5 dolla make you holler is illegal, you just solicited prostitution. Most cops won't arrest you for it, but if you go a little further and they enter the conversation without taking it into context they will arrest you. I have been arrested for soliciting prostitution for making a joke and police taking the phone of the other person and seeing my text. Our country is insane.

  • 11 votes
#1.2 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:24 AM EST

Maybe you should stop hiring hookers. Maybe then you wouldn't have problems with the government. Not to mention it's not a very nice thing to do. What if someone hired your daughter?

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#1.3 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:34 AM EST

Amerika is not a free country any more.

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#1.4 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:39 AM EST
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F*ck you expat, anymore "Free" means "free to shoot kindergarten kids!" fu*k you! Fu*king go hang out on the beach in fu*king Antigua, Fu*k You!

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#1.5 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:22 AM EST

Someone dropped a deuce in your granola this morning?

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#1.6 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:42 AM EST

Freedom is slowly evaporating in this country.

Yeah. Imagine the government trying to tell me that I can't keep huge quantities of explosives in my garage. It's just a hobby.

Just what kind of moron are you?

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#1.7 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 10:40 AM EST

Gee, how convenient to get to pick and choose which laws to obey. What a concept! And not pay taxes on top of it? Where have these guys been all my life?! >.<

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#1.8 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 10:56 AM EST

Yeah - This guy, the apologists who irrationally hate government and the people who believe in this sovereign citizen movement are fools.

1) Explosives have always been illegal to own without a permit and/or without following proper safety regulations. Maintaining true explosives of this nature in a residence without any safety precautions and without required permits is blatantly illegal and has been for oh, what, something on the order of about 100 YEARS! It's not a 'new' thing - failing to follow explosives safety laws has long been illegal.

2) Making up lies about 'Amerika' (with a 'k') and 'loosing freedoms' when lying that explosives of this nature should be freely kept and stored and that 'goverment' has recently stopped you from doing that - give us a break folks.

3) There is no valid factual basis for the entire 'sovereign citizen' concept. There is no legitimate way to renounce citizenship in any way that allows you to skip, avoid, bypass, be exempt from current laws within this country. The entire movement is based on the lie that this is possible. Even if you were able to become this 'sovereign citizen' - you are still bound by all of the laws within the borders of this country. There is no valid factual basis to the contrary. What it seems to be is that there's a lot of grumpy "I think I can just go around and ignore whatever laws I want to while I use the laws that I revile to attack my enemies" crap that is what the 'sovereign citizen' movement is all about. You clowns don't like how our country is run and want to setup something that meets your liking? Go take over some third world country and make it become just like you want it. Go do the hard work of running a real country instead of sucking on the teat of my country while you play childish games of 'pick and choose' on what laws you want to ignore here.

    #1.9 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:24 PM EST

    Gee, how convenient to get to pick and choose which laws to obey.

    What did the government think the citizens of this country were going to start doing after they have been allowing Mexicans to do the same thing for the last couple of decades?

    Why should illegal aliens be the only people in the US allowed to pick and choose the laws here that they will and will not obey?

      #1.10 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:27 PM EST

      FormerMarineSgt, well said. They are free to renounce their citizenship, but they still must obey all of our laws while in our borders, including immigration laws.

        #1.11 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:40 PM EST
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        80 grams of marijuana, Are you kidding me? I'm 56 years old now and I don't remember exactly how much it takes to make a quarter OZ but this doesn't sound like much of a story. As for belonging to an organization that picks and choices which laws it likes and doesn't like, that sounds like the President we have now. 146 lb of explosives could be 146 lb of potting soil these days. Are we having a slow news day?

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        Reply#2 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:29 PM EST

        Dude, there are 28 grams in an oz, we are talking about almost 3 oz's

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        #2.1 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:22 AM EST

        Actually, 80 grams is a little over 2.8 ounces which is quite a bit of marijuana to have and definitely sounds like it was more than just for personal use. In addition, the article says he had a growing operation in a trailer at another location. The article also clearly says that the explosives were Iremite, which is a commercial grade explosive. I guess you did not read the entire article. This explosive was likely several years old since it does not seem to have been made since 2008, which can add to the danger as many explosives become less stable as they age. I would not be too happy if my neighbor was storing 145 pounds of commercial grade explosives in his house. This would be a serious danger to the neighborhood as that much explosives would almost definitely damage more than just his house unless the homes are quite a distance apart. I am glad they arrested this guy as it sounds like he was putting people in danger with the explosives. As for the marijuana, I really could care less so long as he was not selling it to kids.

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        #2.2 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:45 AM EST

        To Confussed - He had a commercial grade of explosives in his house. How would you feel if you knew your neighbor had a 146 lbs of explosives in his house? You must be confused, to compare these explosives to potting soil.

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        #2.3 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 10:30 AM EST

        Yes, we're talking about something like 300 sticks of dynamite. Do you have any idea how much carnage that could produce? We're not talking about cherry bombs, here. That much explosive could have leveled the entire block.

          #2.4 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 10:43 AM EST

          3 oz of pot isn't that much, but legally it's enough to get you into a lot of trouble. That's silly, but it is what it is. It's the explosives that bother me. What was he doing with those? I doubt that he needed to clear a lot of stumps. I imagine he had a lot more sinister intent.

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          #2.5 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 10:46 AM EST

          Confussed (first off...use spell check)..go back and READ the article please. Potting soil? Seriously??

          This guy was a horrible accident in the making. I'm glad he was busted so there will be one less large pile of BOOM sitting around waiting to go off.

            #2.6 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 10:59 AM EST

            Iremite potting soil? Your screen name explains everything. Next election, do your nation a monumental favor and don't vote.

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            #2.7 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:25 PM EST
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            Uh-oh. The GOP lost another member of it's base.

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            Reply#3 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:30 PM EST

            Robert Warner, What an ignorant remark. Is that the best you left wing communist can do.

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            #3.1 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:37 PM EST

            This guy sounds more like a libertarian than a repub. I'm libertarian, and honestly, I don't see anything wrong with having explosives, he likely wasn't planning on bombing anyone, just afraid of the government and felt safer (ironically) because he had the explosives. Its better to have someone who has explosives without the plan to use them than someone who doesn't have explosives but wants to kill people.

            • 2 votes
            #3.2 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:12 AM EST

            Yeah, Msgt51, the TRUTH is about the best anyone can do.

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            #3.3 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:15 AM EST

            @Robert - The GOPhers losing one more whack job is like losing a grain of rice from a 25 lb sack, he won't be missed.

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            #3.4 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:18 AM EST

            msgt51- Wanna a bet that he is more likely to vote Republican than Democrat? Yeah, it was a dumb remark, but yours was dumber. Communist?! Give me a break.

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            #3.5 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 10:49 AM EST

            Brian: Google "convoluted logic".

              #3.6 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:26 PM EST

              msgt: And " left wing communist" is the best that you can do?

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              #3.7 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:32 PM EST
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              Harrell's possible link to sovereign citizen ideology

              That certainly explains why jack-booted government thugs singled him out. Given the recent election results, government tyrants feel confident trying to impose their will. However, true Tea Patriots will not be pushed around, and I'm sure there's a lot more where those 145 lbs. of high explosives came from.

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              Reply#4 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:34 PM EST

              Thanks for proving the validity of my last post. Let me expand with DIRECT, FIRST-HAND PERSONAL OBSERVATIONS;

              TeaParty Membership = Sedition.

              Scratch a conservative, find a racist.

              Decades of Republican policies= a country awash in guns and the attendant massacres and expanded poverty coupled with the rich getting massively richer.

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              #4.1 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:48 PM EST

              robert

              feel free to move to another country say greece or the antarctic or just curl up in your little mind and live in your fantasy world. also i think its 28 grams to an ounce had to think way back for that info

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              #4.2 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:46 AM EST

              "Tea Patriots" are too stupid to know when they're being pushed around. They think being ticketed for doing 80 in a school zone is "being pushed around". They've had "respect", "civility" and "humanity" erased from their consciousness.

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              #4.3 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:30 PM EST
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              I question the $500,000 bond. Why so high? Is he a threat to someone? Jesus H. Christ, what have we come to. Also, pot (MJ) is legal in some states, so what's the big deal. This is a misdemeaner in my mind. Release to own recognizance and set a court date for a small fine. End of story!!!!

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              Reply#5 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:49 PM EST

              "I question the $500,000 bond"

              He's an anti- government, delusional fanatic with enough explosives to kill thousands. I think confinement in a mental facility is warranted.

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              #5.1 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:54 PM EST

              Enough explosives to kill thousands. Robert, how do you know what Iremite does and how it reacts at detonation? Are you an explosives expert? Could you explain to me the chemical composition of the explosive Iremite, what it is used for, how much change in pressure 1 oz at detonation can do to a solid 1 lb-mass surrounding it?

              Also, where in the article does it say this guy is anti-government? You sure are quick to make accusations about others you probably don't even know personally. He was arrested because he had a pot growing operation and just so happened to have 145 lbs of Iremite (Mining Explosive no longer for sale since 2006) without an ATF license to possess the material. It's pretty simple. He broke the law, was stupid, and will now go to court to be set an example of for other idiots, just like him, to see what happens when you do this kind of stuff.

              Pretty simple, really!

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              #5.2 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:56 AM EST

              The half-million dollar bond surprised me as well.

              He could have killed the girlfriend and bail wouldn't have been that high.

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              #5.3 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:06 AM EST

              Christopher J Maier, if you have something to refute that one can kill thousands with 145 pounds of commercial grade explosives, feel free to supply that. But let's give you the benefit of the doubt and make it hundreds. He's still a delusional anti-government nutcase with 145 pounds of explosive. Now apparently reading and comprehension are beyond your abilities because the article clearly states he is part of the sovereign citizens movement. This is a movement who's adherents have killed several police officers because they believe that the government's laws don't apply to them, that our government is illegitimate. You might want to go back to school before you go all snarky, and wrong, when communicating publicly

                #5.4 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:18 AM EST

                thought it said he might be in with the sovereign citizens movement see they threw that in to confuse people. if the news says it it must be true

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                #5.5 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:52 AM EST

                Yes, Okie, how could anyone believe anything that's not on FAUX News? It's a vast left-wing conspiracy to take away peoples explosive arsenals.

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                #5.6 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 11:19 AM EST

                And yet, Bob, somebody put up his half million bond. So, maybe not so high?

                  #5.7 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 11:31 AM EST

                  I wonder if it's one of those states where you only need to post 10% (does any state even do that now?)

                    #5.8 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:07 PM EST

                    Bob: "Is he a threat to someone?" Huh? Have you no idea how pitifully desperate that question is?

                      #5.9 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:35 PM EST
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                      YES SIR. REPUBS LIVE ON.!!! The more guns we have, the safer we will be. It's not the guns folks. It's a mental health issue. If more guns had been available maybe this guy would have gotten shot before he was able to do all this mahem. These people all have had mental issues. You take guns away from the citizenry and you will have the criminals with the guns. How safe will you feel then?

                        Reply#6 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:53 PM EST

                        Of course. The problem isn't that the maniac in Connecticut had instant access to as many guns as he wanted, it's that the 10 year-olds that he shot weren't packing. If we would just give all of our 10 year-olds AK47s to take to school, all of our problems would be solved. One more addition to my observations;

                        Modern day republicans= People unable toforesee the results, and unable to understand the consequences, of their philosophies.

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                        #6.1 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:08 AM EST

                        Robert, you're an idiot! Too bad you couldn't foresee this comment coming after yours some time later in the evening. Maybe you would have thought twice to accuse only one political group of not foreseeing consequences of their actions and policies.

                          #6.2 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:09 AM EST

                          Christopher J Maier, republicans are the ones who have spent decades fighting gun control and now the country is awash in guns and we have a mass shooting every week. Democrats warned of this consequence. Republicans could not foresee the obvious consequences of their actions- Democrats did. The ease with which these murderers were able to obtain their arsenals is a direct consequence of the gutting of gun control.

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                          #6.3 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:24 AM EST
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                          Decades of Democrat policies have given the Nation a mood of "gimme gimme gimme". Look at the number of freebies, food stamps, public housing, etc...............remember the black lady after Mr. Obama was elected? She yelled out "I need a house". Like oh, we have one of our own now we will be taken care of. Look at the City Council lady in Detroit..............saying, "hey we want some Quid pro quo" We voted for you Mr. Obama, where is ours?

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                          Reply#7 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:58 PM EST

                          I notice you found it necessary to point out that she was black. Why couldn't you have simply written "the lady..."? And what's with " we have one of our own now we will be taken care of"?

                          Scratch a conservative, find a racist.

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                          #7.1 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:18 AM EST

                          Well Robert, Bob is right. For a President who is so pro-union, why didn't he ever step in to tell the Hockey Unions to make a deal already and get back to playing? He did for basketball, baseball, and most recently football. But God Forbid he'd ever say anything about a sport that is primarily white. If I could get a away with the N-word without too much PR issue, that's exactly what I'd call him; just like the way I see it. This is what Obama has done to this country, made most us who are white begin to segregate ourselves from those who are black. He doesn't want people to get along. He does everything to make sure we see that it's black people who are the only ones who suffer in this country.

                          Bob, you should have used Bacon instead of Quid pro quo. It was much funnier when she said it like that.

                            #7.2 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:17 AM EST

                            Obama actually did call for both sides in the NHL dispute to come to an agreement either yesterday or this morning, so... back to the drawing board for your comment.

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                            #7.3 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:36 AM EST

                            Christopher J Maier, I said "scratch a conservative and find a racist" and you, in arguing with me, write " If I could get a away with the N-word without too much PR issue, that's exactly what I'd call him", thus PROVING your racism. And you call the president such vile names because he doesn't tell hockey players and management to work their problems out but... President Obama actually did. You call me an idiot while spouting racist comments about President Obama and stating a lie about the President not caring about the sport of hockey. I believe the term "lying racist" applies to you, which is clearly PROVEN by your post.

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                            #7.4 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:33 AM EST
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                            So why arnt people charged when they have gasoline? That's explosive right? You also do not have to be 18 to buy it, but you have to be 18 to buy spray paint, markers, and supper glue, hmmmm?

                              Reply#8 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:59 PM EST

                              But you do need a permit to store great quantities of it. This man wasn't arrested for a quantity of explosives comparable to a personal-size quantity of gasoline.

                              Libertarian = people who think it's ok to own weapons of mass destruction for personal use.

                                #8.1 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:14 AM EST
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                                obviously we need to reinstate an assault weapons ban because of this

                                  Reply#9 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:02 AM EST

                                  Since the 2nd Amendment explicitely references a strong militia as the basis for the right to bear arms, we should require that any person who wants a gun must enroll in the National Guard.

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                                  #9.1 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:28 AM EST
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                                  Just another RWNJ taken off the streets. 145 lbs of explosives what's the problem? Maybe he was deciding whether to break the law against blowing up his fellow citizen. What's the harm with that? Right! The whack jobs are going off the deep end and their racist hatred is gushing up to the surface.

                                    Reply#11 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:11 AM EST

                                    If you wonder why we can't progress as a country, look at all of the voters who think owning stockpiles of explosives is a right. Jjust for starters.

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                                    #11.1 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:22 AM EST

                                    Good luck standing up to a tyrannical government without arms.

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                                    #11.2 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:42 AM EST

                                    expatdownunda

                                    What you don't understand is that not everyone isuffers from your delusional paranoia.

                                      #11.3 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:47 AM EST

                                      Hmmmm, what to worry about more... an imaginary tyrannical government, or living beside a guy with 145 lbs of explosives in his house? Tough call.

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                                      #11.4 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:42 AM EST

                                      Robert,

                                      It is not delusional paranoia, you are failing to see the condition of the nation. People threaten me with retaliation by the government on these blogs. There is real hatred and intolerance in Amerika. When the government has fanned the flames of this hatred long enough, then they will set upon the factions of this nation that disagree with the socialist agenda. We will fight back.

                                        #11.5 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:55 AM EST

                                        "Socialist?" You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

                                        Every time I've asked someone to give a specific example of the Obama Administration's "socialist agenda," they fail to produce one, or they produce an example of what they think is socialism, but is actually barely to the left of center.

                                          #11.6 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 10:49 AM EST

                                          Can't you just see expat with a few of his equally delusional buddies piling into their pickups, deer rifles and an occasional AK 47 sticking out the windows, roaring off to bring freedom to America. They wouldn't get past the local police department, much less the National Guard, the US Army, Marines, and Air Corps. The Navy wouldn't be needed.

                                            #11.7 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:31 PM EST

                                            Socialism is equality of income by law. Higher taxes for the wealthy, limits on executive pay, government control of industry, increased entitlements --- all of these are examples of creeping socialism.

                                              #11.8 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:45 PM EST

                                              Expat - I'm playing a little bit loose with the numbers here, but I'm pretty close. Over the last 30 years or so the average CEO has gone from making about 40 x the average worker to about 400 x the average worker (while at the same time their tax burden has dropped substantially). Are CEOs 10 x better than they used to be? Of course not. But they control the game, and have reaped enormous benefits. The only way the average person has a way to fight this inequality is through government. I would throw unions in there as well, but they are slowly but surely having their legs cut out from under them (oddly enough by government). Income inequality between the rich and the poor has been growing steadily over the last few decades and the middle class is getting wiped out. If you think this is an indication that the US has been trending towards socialism over the last few decades, then you are just not having an honest look at the numbers.

                                                #11.9 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:57 PM EST

                                                And why do you resent the wealth of others Beagle? Why do you believe that equality of income is desirable? I will not work for equal wages, I will only take for equal wages.

                                                  #11.10 - Sun Dec 16, 2012 12:56 PM EST

                                                  I don't resent the wealth of others at all, I'm simply pointing out that the reality of what is happening to the economy does not represent a trend towards socialism. Socialism would result in income inequality decreasing, not increasing.

                                                    #11.11 - Sun Dec 16, 2012 1:40 PM EST
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                                                    Some good people here...

                                                      Reply#12 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:49 AM EST

                                                      @Good luck standing up to a tyrannical government without arms.

                                                      Ummm..... well... TELL THAT TO ALL THOSE OF US THAT GOT KILLED BY ROADSIDE BOMBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                                                      Frigging sad. Really sad!

                                                        Reply#13 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:52 AM EST

                                                        @@Good luck standing up to a tyrannical government without arms.

                                                        Continued:

                                                        Sorry for the rage. There is a lesson in there somewhere though....

                                                          Reply#14 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:56 AM EST

                                                          "Guns don't kill people, PEOPLE kill people."

                                                          It's an argument you've all heard before; this line of reasoning is the refrain all those opposing gun laws lean toward whenever someone even hints at the idea of supervision over the sales or use of firearms. To these people, what say you on explosives?

                                                          I'd be hard pressed to hear a valid defense of arresting someone simply for possessing an amount of explosives like this man was. Sure, it was a large quantity, but large gun collections are nothing new, either. Generally speaking, explosives are every bit as harmless as a gun without a human hand to guide it...or at least that's what the line of reasoning infers, and to that point, the reasoning is flawed BANKRUPT.

                                                          This man is no more guilty of anything than your average gun-loving NRA cardholder. So, again, gun proponents, I ask...WHAT SAY YOU?

                                                            Reply#15 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:02 AM EST

                                                            Nuclear weapons don't kill people, people kill people.

                                                              #15.1 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 11:24 AM EST
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                                                              @This man is no more guilty of anything than your average gun-loving NRA cardholder. So, again, gun proponents, I ask...WHAT SAY YOU?

                                                              I say troll.

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                                                              Reply#16 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:05 AM EST

                                                              We will keep our guns, no matter what you do.

                                                                #16.1 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:56 AM EST

                                                                expatdownunda: Another scared little man.

                                                                  #16.2 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 10:50 AM EST

                                                                  Fine, but bullets will now cost $5,000 per round.

                                                                    #16.3 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 11:26 AM EST
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                                                                    Ooops, i meant paid troll. Sorry.

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                                                                    Reply#17 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:06 AM EST

                                                                    So... this evil is "no more guilty of anything than your average gun-loving NRA cardholder"

                                                                    There is a name for that kind of stuff. "flame bait'.

                                                                    Google it people.

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                                                                    Reply#18 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:09 AM EST

                                                                    If you anon ones are watching, go for it, please.

                                                                      Reply#19 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:25 AM EST

                                                                      Funny... where did they go?

                                                                        Reply#20 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:44 AM EST

                                                                        Instead of just throwing out names and insults, would care to answer my question? If I haven't made my point clear already, I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of prosecuting a man for possessing explosives while firearms are held on such a pedestal in this country. If guns don't kill people, do hand grenades? They're both dangerous in their own right, but the classic logic of "guns don't kill people" doesn't seem to go far beyond guns themselves. If guns are so sacred, important, protected, etc. that we as a country can't even think about making laws about firearms, then what right do we have then to complain about one man's possession of explosive materials?

                                                                        Don't throw the term 'troll' around so lightly. I am not here to get in some asinine screaming match with somebody I don't even know. I want to hear someone finally explain this line of reasoning ("Guns don't kill people") because I am SICK and TIRED of hearing it.

                                                                          #20.1 - Mon Dec 17, 2012 7:07 AM EST
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                                                                          The explosive was fertilizer to be used in his MB farm.

                                                                            Reply#21 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:14 AM EST

                                                                            He used the explosives to blow up the marijuana stumps. What else

                                                                              Reply#22 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:50 AM EST

                                                                              marijuana stumps

                                                                              heeheehe

                                                                                #22.1 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:37 AM EST
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                                                                                I suppose it wouldn't have been much of a story if he had 145 pounds of pot and running around with a small amount of explosives...

                                                                                  Reply#23 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:19 AM EST

                                                                                  in Fairbanks Alaska we had a group of soverigns they targeted a judge and a couple of cops all five received lengthy sentences but not before they said they were sorry take them on down send them away for a long time

                                                                                    Reply#24 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:31 AM EST

                                                                                    Wasn't it the sovereigns that got Wesley Snipes in trouble with their tax scheme? Or was that different bowl of fruit loops?

                                                                                      #24.1 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:39 AM EST
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                                                                                      What part did the girlfriend have in all this? She was part of it all until she got mad and called the cops to get even. She should be arrested too.

                                                                                        Reply#25 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:09 AM EST
                                                                                        SoBobJonDeleted

                                                                                        Another nut case just waiting to "go off"...

                                                                                          Reply#27 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:50 AM EST
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