A kindergarten teacher has a twenty-year-old son who lives with her and she knows he is mentally ill, and yet she owns five handguns?

And even if you don't have a mentally unstable relative, why does anyone REALLY need five handguns for their own protection?

Perhaps she obtained these handguns for protection.

This is more like it. The kid was a problem, and needed help, and he was what, home alone and had access to firearms?

Well, she's dead, and so is he, so we'll never know, will we?

I think the kid's mom was an idiot in many, many tragic ways. She paid for that.

At least her waste of carbon son did himself in.

California cut $587.4 million during this period, New York $132 million and Illinois $113.7 million.” To make matters worse the current House Republican budget for 2013 proposes to further reduce federal funding for mental health treatment.

Well there we go, blame Republicans. The decrease in funding for the mentally ill dates back decades through many presidencies and Congresses (both Republican run and Democrat run and mixed in power in between them all), but what the hey, let's make a cheap shot and just point fingers at the Republicans as a final parting comment. I expect nothing less from the Center For American Progress.

Again with the taking of political sides and gut reaction to be partisan. This is not about Republicans or Democrats, both parties have done a lousy job on mental health, the record speaks for itself (regardless of the messenger, in this case the Center for American Progress). Although, I'd like to see such a report from the Heritage Foundation, but I digress. The point is, the cuts keep coming and currently, it is the GOP who proposes such cuts.

It's hard to have a conversation about gun violence and not talk about mental illness. But they are 2 separate issues. I think even the NRA (I hope) would agree that we can do a better job of keeping guns out of the hands of unstable, mentally ill people. We will hear the arguments about enforcing laws on the books and it will be pointed out, as above that some states, like Connecticut already have a ban on assault weapons. The fact that cannot be disputed, is that people have the ability to legally or illegally, possess weapons that can kill and maim scores of people in mere seconds. Why? Why does anyone outside of law enforcement have the right to have assault weapons and multiple round magazines?

There will lots of arguments about rights and we'll hear lots of defense of the 2nd amendment. But don't our children have the right to be safe at school and at home, above all constitutional rights? When our founding fathers made sure that we will always have a "well armed militia", they could not have meant for the general public to have weapons with the capabilities that they do today. The 2nd amendment will never be overturned, never! Don't believe anyone who says it will (i.e.; the NRA). But it is time to have uniform laws across state lines that ensure that the only people who can legally get guns are those who are trained, tested, licensed and insured. Because the argument that "guns don't kill people, people kill people" is just not a sane one.

This is a privacy issue because mental health is a health issue which has very
strict privacy laws.

So we need to be a volunteer nation. Like for instance, I volunteer
to get evaluated and allow my score to be seen by all via the web. Same with
guns, I would volunteer to let people know I am a gun owner. Not how many guns
or what type or even a reason why I choose to own guns, but just that I am a
gun owner.

This would allow people to be proactive in helping with security of our schools and other parts
of our lives. Of course insanity can deceive this methodology and training of
what to do and how to recognize threats should be part of our teachings and
instructing. Nobody is expected to foresee such events but we should all prepare
the best we can.

What a FOOLISH comment by the moron who stated that it would have been an AXE if not a GUN....?? Where did his logic come from, a comic book? This horrible act by a lunatic with GUNS has changed my mind about gun control, and I have been a right winger forever. I am crying and heartbroken for the parents of the beautiful children whose lives were cut away in seconds by BULLETS.

First of all, it has NOT been determined that he was mentally ill. It has been reported that his brother said that he had a form of autism - Aspergers. Autism in any form is NOT a mental illness. Many people have this condition and you would not even know it. Stop listening to the "so-called" experts and wait until the officials release information on the shooter. Second, it is NOT the mother's fault. She legally purchased her weapons - as is her right in this country and her state. We do NOT know if or how she secured them in her home. Regardless, SHE did not pull the trigger. Third, this appears to have been planned out...it was not a whim. SOmeone intent on causing this sort of devastation would find a way to make it happen.

There are 90 guns for every 100 civilians in this country. Any gun control laws will only affect new LEGAL purchases. You think people will voluntarily turn in their guns to the government? Get ready for a REAL civl war. It will never happen. Gun ownership is the last defense against criminals and a tyrannical government. Semi-automatic weapons take the hit because it is popular and easy to do so. Contrary to what the media and liberals will tell you - most people who own these types of weapons do not have high capacity clips with these weapons. Besides, collectors and hunters, many people purchase these weapons for protection. If the criminal element has automatic or semi-automatic guns - I want the same firepower in order to stand a chance to defend myself and my family. An old fashioned revolver or bolt action rifle will not afford me that.

The focus should be on WHY. Why does the idea of mass killings even occur to people? Why did this sort of thing not happen 50 years ago?

Silverton---

Perhaps she thought she might need to protect herself one day from her unstable son. That seems to be a reasonable assertion at this point

@silverton-2953905

A kindergarten teacher has a twenty-year-old son who lives with her and she knows he is mentally ill, and yet she owns five handguns?
And even if you don't have a mentally unstable relative, why does anyone REALLY need five handguns for their own protection?

A kindergarten teacher has a mentally disturbed son at home and apparently has been unable or unwilling to face the fact that something could go horribly wrong. And no, I don't mean to cast aspersions on the lady, just responding to your statement. As for the "need' to own five handguns. You still don't get it. This is not about need. Do you live in a house that is larger than is really necessary? Why? Is it on a piece of property larger than is really necessary? Why? Does your automobile go faster than 65 MPH? Why? What are most of the speed limits you see on a daily basis? Are you starting to catch my drift? Quit blaming the damn guns, they are the smallest part of this problem.

Australia is a country of real "hunters", and yet, they do not have the BS poblems that we do.

Look at the people who suffer from mental illnesses in this country: They are marked for life and ostracized.

AMERICA THE STUPID

xbonz,

I agree with the why part but I don't think your addressing the "rightness" of it. I own three weapons. I used to own seven when I lived in a different part of the country. I didn't collect them because I was fortifying my home. I collected them because I liked them. I like shooting them...I like taking care of them. I collect football cards too. I don't collect just one, I collect all of the ones that I like. Why? Because I like them. That's okay. That is a sufficient enough reason in a free society. Freedom is risky just like Religion. Without the inherent risks, there is no freedom (a point I am constantly reminded of by TSA at airports). When this nation falls, (which history has shown happens to all opulent cultures), whether in my lifetime or beyond, it will be because it lost the backbone of its ideals. The truth of Freedom, States rights, sexual and moral responsibility, the right to bear arms, the right to privacy, and the right to worship and vote according to our religious conviction, and the ability to rule our government (not vice-versa) will have long been eroded to some pluralistic, esoteric worldview that will make us no longer a viable (or desirable) culture and society.

Mary Ann Melville , you say "the only people who can legally get guns are those who are trained, tested, licensed and insured." How would that prevent what occurred? It already is illegal for people to illegally have a pistol in CT if you are 21 or not licensed. The perp didn't care about the law and made up his own rules. As for you other question: "Why does anyone outside of law enforcement have the right to have assault weapons and multiple round magazines?" Because US Citizens do have that right: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Governments go bad. We the people wanted to create a free state, for the people by the people. While our government has issues balancing a budget it is not bad like what we see in some nations around the world. In 50 years though? Or 100 years? We don't know and that is why we have that 2nd amendment. You do not want to give that right up, for yourself, your kids, your grandkids.

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety - Ben Franklin. A smart man, as many of our founding fathers were.

9/11 was a tragedy. The millions spent to keep us "safe" at airports is another tragedy. Anyone who thinks a well trained assault team couldn't get on a plane is living with their head in the sand. The best deterrent for planes used as weapons is all terrorists knowing the Air Force won't let the plane reach its target. We did not need fancy scanning machines that are easily bypassed by a determined group of people.

None of the above has anything to do with the tragedy that occurred yesterday though. You can make harm harder to do but this person drove 3 hours with the intent to kill. This was not a 5 minute snap decision. He got dressed, got equipment, and set out on a mission. If equipment "A" was not available he would have grabbed equipment "B", just like the knife attack in China. He was intent on going to that school and nothing was going to stop him from getting at least to the parking lot. Being able to quickly stop the attack is key for I don't think we can prevent every single attack. Especially when the attacker has no desire to live to see tomorrow. I do wonder how many of the teachers today wished they were allowed to carry yesterday.

To answer the question of this article, "how can we be protected from people like this?": They attack in schools, shopping malls, movie theaters, and parking lots. In DC they shot from the trunk of a car. In Oklahoma a federal building was blown up. In Times Square someone tried to blow up a car.

The surprise factor is a tough one to overcome. We can't suspect every person we see. Often times crimes are committed by family and classmates so it isn't like a stranger approaches you. Sometimes there are warning signs. Sometimes there are not. Planning ahead and being aware of our surroundings can help protect us once a crises has started but I don't think we can 100% protect ourselves from 100% of the people intent on doing harm. We do catch many of them before they act out though, so let's be thankful for all the tragedies we have prevented so far while working on preventing more.

The US leads the world in school shootings and we have the most guns. Is that a simple coincidence? NO.

Wake up and smell the coffee. I read, "let's arm the teachers". You really want shoot outs at school?

We need to do something about increasing mental health funding and access to guns.

“How can we be protected from people like this?”

You can't. Random acts like this happen occasionally. It's sad when it happens to be sure, but the world is not a safe sanitized place.

We need to do something about increasing mental health funding and access to guns.

We already have adequate coverage in both of those areas. Every time someone gets shot in this country a certain type of person starts screaming about gun control. Guns aren't the problem, statistically you are much less likely to be injured or killed by a gun that you are in a car. But anytime a gun is used it's "sensational" so it make good headlines.

You want to do something? Get to know your neighbors, do something in your community for the mentally ill, reach out to them before they snap. People are isolating themselves hiding in their living rooms watching the world on their 32" panel TV rather than getting involved with actual people; that's the problem.

the one: There is only ONE solution, get rid of ALL guns.

somebody's full of hunkydoo if you really believe that there are no assult weapons in america.military persons and other persons purchase assult weapons overseas and mail them to canada and mexico and traffic them into america. i have gentleman neighbor down the street from me who was in viet nam in the marine core and sent his weapons back here to the states. he has ak47's,m16's a german pistola that shoots 9 rounds at one time. and there are many others who own assult weapons.so how do you guys stop the tragedies that are occuring here in the united states legally arm youself and protect you your family and friends.kinda like john wayne God,guts and guns keep america free.and God Bless our troops who are fighting to keep america safe.

for dirp

There is only ONE solution, get rid of ALL guns.

Pretty naive. That genie is already out of the bottle. You may as well try to force people to give up their knives, axes, crossbows, and fists.

What bothers me as much as this mass murder is the people who come out of the woodwork and try to capitalize on the situation with their weird pacifist political agenda. You're deluded if you think that banning guns will stop violence.

What's really amazing is that this murderer was unhinged enough to commit a horrific act and no one, not his family, friends, or neighbors bothered to look for warning signs.

arm youself and protect you your family and friends.kinda like john wayne God,guts and guns keep america free

texastornado, I think you're a wuss if you need a gun to defend yourself.

22 kindergarten students slashed in Red China's Henan province on the same day 12/14/12 and where is the outcry against psychos targeting elementary students? No where, instead this is a pathetic politicizing of psychopathy predating upon a clearly emotive target--an act of psychotic terrorism.

I Respond and Truth Machine,

It is not about our love of firearms, it is not about the NRA it is about our society. I Respond, you were on the right track when talking about Terrentino films and the violence that is embedded in all our entertainment and media. It is about the sensationalism in reporting tragedies like this one and the amount of attention payed to the criminal that commits the crime. It is about the rejection of morality in favor of secularism, it is about our failure as parents to tell industry that we do not want violence for our children. Guns are incapable of pulling their own triggers. There are millions of legitimate and legal gun owners and millions of guns in this country alone that never have anything to do with a crime. The NRA while fighting not just for your second amendment rights, but all your rights does not promote violence nor do they condone it. It is actually at the urging of the NRA that there is a waiting period for the legal purchase of a handgun. Instead of wasting your time hating an object that has no capacity to act on its own, why not focus where the real problem exists, the individual. A gun does not make you plan to take someone's life, you do the planning then procure the tool to carryout your plan. These guns were legally owned, legally purchased by the parent of the shooter. The shooter made the plan then procured the instrument to carry it out, the guns didn't make him do it. Maybe if we payed a little more attention to our neighbors, friends and family members and actually sought to help with their problems instead of handing them an anti-depressant and ignoring them this tragedy could have been avoided. In all the recent mass shootings that have taken place three things have been in common. 1) They all involved guns, 2) They all took place in gun free zones, and 3) All the shooters involved have had some sort of personality disorder. Guns are tools for recreation, survival, and defense. They have no will of their own, nor can they move themselves about. The gun free zones draw these people because they know that no one can stop them because no one else is armed until police arrive. The most restrictive gun control laws in the US are In Chicago and New York City, yet Chicago this year has seen a dramatic increase in violent homicide and New York had its own shooting spree incident on a public street! Removing guns themselves from the equation is an equally impossible task. There are as I previously stated millions of registered and unregistered firearms in this country alone. What do you honestly think the chances of taking them all out of circulation are? Even if you stopped the manufacture and sale of guns and ammunition today, it would be well over 100 years before it made any difference if at all. You see America is not the only country to manufacture guns and ammunition and we all see how effective the authorities are at stopping the flow of illegal narcotics into this country! So where should we turn, what should we do to prevent or limit future repeats of this tragedy? To the individuals, to all of us, to our society and our culture. Speak out against overly violent content in media. Embrace morality and once again place responsibility at the forefront of teaching children. Remove the excuses used to justify violent behavior in the name of compassion. Change the way we live and focus on positive behavior in the news. Stop putting children and young adults into positions that are so stressful that psychotic behavior results. Stop living only for ourselves, but live and reach out to everyone near us.

This is not the first time a deranged person has shot a classroom full of kindergartners. In 1996 at Dunblane Primary School in Scotland, a man burst into a room full of 5 and 6 year-olds and killed sixteen small children and their teacher.

Following this massacre, handguns were banned in the United Kingdom, and now the UK has one of the lowest rates of gun homicides in the world.

Now is the time, America, for us to stand up and say NO to the gun advocates and start enforcing stricter gun laws.

Take a look at this link of the children and their teacher killed in Scotland, and think of the children and teachers killed yesterday.

http://fareehaali.com/2011/09/18/september11/

DON'T LET THE NRA BULLY US ANYMORE!

silverton,

The police in the UK never used to carry sidearms either, but they do now. How do you explain the need for them if handguns are no longer a problem in the UK?

The NRA had nothing to do with yesterday. As I have said, Guns are a tool. The young man needed a tool and picked up his mother's guns and used them. Guns don't kill people, people kill people using tools - i.e., gun, knife, fork, club, car, etc., etc., etc. Get off the gun crap. If someone wants to kill someone or people, they will find a way. Be it gun, knife, ax, wood chipper, etc., etc. Think about it. Leave the guns alone.

• I read "let's arm the teachers." You really want shootouts at school?

When a deranged maniac is shooting up the classroom, hell yeah I'd want a shootout at school. That's the only thing that would have given these kids any chance of survival. The shooter will always be able to get off the first shot, but if some of the teachers had been armed, the carnage wouldn't have been nearly as bad. Schools are a favored venue for these killers because they know that they are gun-free zones. People talk about banning guns. With hundreds of millions of guns out there, there's no way the government would be able to confiscate them all. And even if they could, there would be no way to keep more from being smuggled in across our borders. Our government can't even keep illegal immigrants from streaming across the border, so I have no faith that they would be able to prevent something as small as a handgun from being smuggled in.

Repeal the 2nd ammendment. It has been perverted from the Founders original intent. They could not even conceive of a firearm that could be fired more than 5 times a minute. It was not intended for recreational use or personal protection. A gun loving supreme court gave us the interpretation we have now.

It is easier to kill with a gun, compared to all other methods.

I learned to shoot at 10 yrs old, infantry trained at 18. There are a tool for the military. If the second ammendment was interpreted as intended, the national guard members would have firearms in their homes for the expressed use of defending the country when called upon, not for recreational use, not for home protection, not for gaining a sense of empowerment (missing due to some lack of endowment). The second ammendment has been hijacked by the gun manufacturers through the NRA and the Activist supreme Court, and guns kill 27,000 Americans every year (2011) because of that.

It is easy enough to disarm someone with a hand gun with the right training and if you are close enough. I don't own a gun now, I don't need one, and my daughter is safe at home.

Ebonz said,

"The founding fathers could not have predicted telephones, televisions, radio, computers, etc. How many people are driven to violence based on these items? Should we outlaw or limit access to these?"

The modern items you mention were not invented to kill, nor can I remember tha last time I heard of someone being beaten to death with a television.

Guns are the enabling mechanism that makes it easy for someone with the inclination, to kill. 27,000 dead by guns in the US in 2011 almost twice as many suicides as homicides. In Canada where the is at least 1 gun for every 4 people, there were 170 gun homicedes in 2011 for a population of 30 million. The difference is the types of guns that are allowed. Hand guns are severely restricted in Canada. The process to gain a permit includes intrusive interviews by law enforcement of friends, family and neighbors of the applicant. Then there's the mandatory training.

None of this exists in the US and so there's 13,000 gun homicides in the US in 2011.

Australia is a country of real "hunters", and yet, they do not have the BS poblems that we do.

Look at the people who suffer from mental illnesses in this country: They are marked for life and ostracized.

AMERICA THE STUPID

Do you really know whats happening in Austrailia right now? They just institued a national weapons ban and have destroyed the guns that the population has turned in. Guess what the result was? Crime against citizens has risen 62% including home invasions which doesnt even have a law against it because before NO ONE invaded your home because EVERYONE was armed. Now only the criminals have the weapons and they know Austrailians dont. Great move.

So I would say Austrailia the stupid.

riley,

Your info on Australia is the NRA version. Try factcheck. org for the real story

Nobody should own guns, the NRA is the newest and oldest terror group to threaten America and Americans. It should be outlawed! The 2nd Amendment should be amended!

The NRA is a pack of lying terrorists and so are its brainwashed members!

Time to stand, America, and tell the NRA that it cannot bully us anymore.

If you are an apologist in any way for what happened, you are on the side of the gun lobbies and in the minority. We can adopt sensible gun laws, enforce them and close loopholes. It's what the people want. The mess will not be cleaned up overnight, nor will any law completely protect our children, but to not make the effort is criminal and a blot on our society. The children who were there will be forever scarred by this.

Anybody who wants a gun will be able to get a gun no matter what laws are passed.Legal or ilegal,If a person has enough money and they want a gun bad enough they will get one.Not even banning gun ownership would stop all the violence.Remember,Prohibition did'nt stop all the drinking,In fact it made the black market and organized crime untold millions of dollars.Just ask Al Capone.

Iowa.

The guns used in this terrible, awful, disguisting sick act were already obtained illegally, so more laws would have done nothing. He was 20, in CT you have to be 21 to purchase a handgun or ammunition period. So what did he do, he stole them from his own mother and killed her in the process. He was already a murderer and a theif before he even walked into that school. This tragedy is beyon horrible, but all it did was prove that if someone is crazy and wants to kill masses of people, they won't let laws get in their way.

David,

Don't be naive. Those kinds of laws have already been passed. As a writer, I have already become painfully aware that if I say anything that is too "Christian" or politically incorrect can be considered a "hate crime". Already, an employer can't refuse to hire a open homosexual, even if their religious convictions state that that person is making a bad choice and the employer wants someone with a history of what he believes are good choices for his business. That is now a hate crime.

I really hate, "Anybody can get a gun anytime, so lets do nothing" comments. REALLY?

Or better yet, "They'll use any kind of weapon, knife, toaster, scrub brush"......REALLY?

Keep protecting you guns and cutting mental health and we'll have more of these.

Maybe NOW, after 20 little CHILDREN are killed its time to get rid of the guns ?

@dirp

Maybe NOW, after 20 little CHILDREN are killed its time to get rid of the guns ?

Swimming pools are the second leading cause of accidental deaths among children. Do a little research into these horrifying statistics and you will find the urgent need to outlaw swimming pools. Guess it's time to get rid of swimming pools.

iowaserf,

We already have hundreds of sensible gun laws on the books and some that are really ridiculous in the efforts they go to in restricting the use, sale and ownership of firearms. New laws aren't the answer to guns, people are the answer. It is the person that procures the gun not the other way around. It is the person that pulls the trigger, that loads the gun, that takes aim at other human beings. So it is the person who is the danger. Maybe we should stop treating personality disorders with drugs and letting people go on their merry way until they snap! Maybe we should re-evaluate the content of our media and entertainment that is acceptable in our screwed up society! Maybe we should slow things down a bit and take much more time for family and friends so that we reduce the anxiety and stress that builds up in our lives. It makes more sense to attack the problem at its root, the individual human being, than it does to blame a tool with no mind or will of its own.

Eric,

If we outlawed all guns tomorrow and stopped the manufacture and sale of guns and ammunition in this country, how many years do you think it would take to see a change in behavior? One? Ten? One Hundred? More? Stop trying to treat a symptom and start focusing on the disease Eric! The one thing other than guns that are in common with all the mass shootings is people! Someone pulled the trigger! Maybe we should look into changing the way we live so the personality disorders that manifest this type of behavior can be eliminated. Maybe we should look into the way we treat these personality disorders because drugs do not seem to be the answer. Maybe we have to accept the fact that evil is alive and well in our society and we should pay more attention to how we live and what we do to avoid it. If someone jumps in a car and rams a group of school children waiting for a bus, is it the car's fault? If someone blows up a building full of people using a natural gas leak to create the explosion, is it the gas company's fault? Let's put the emphasis of the solution on the real problem not on some object.

as tragic as this story is,people have to keep in mind this sad story is about mental illness, and the reprocussions of not getting proper treatment, it is not the gun that kills as a gun can not fire it self or transport it self around the country,but it is i my opion a reflection of our moral decadence as a country and civilization,where morals and responsiblity and compasion for others is down played and im moral acts and behavior is played up in very violent music ,video games, and also on television,where this type of behavior is glorified,

And you are correct.

Sadly, the cowards are rallying to blame inanimate objects rather than face the real issues because, you know, those are just danged hard, and might hurt feelings and damage self-esteem.

I totally agree with you. I have been trying to get the same type of help for my adult son for years now and he is still walking free in society. I am not afraid to say that my son Matthew is a danger to society and has been talking about killing people for a while now. I had him placed into a psychiatric unit for evaluation only to see them let him loose in 72 hours...this was after he was talking about taking many people out. I cannot do anything more here and I have stated to many doctors that he needs a placement but they NEVER listen...no one cares.

I'm truly sorry to hear that Sue. The only thing we can do now is write our Congressional representatives (Senator, district House Representative) and get some bills passed for Obama to sign. We've got to get them the help they need and spend the money to do it. I pray this is a wake up call for that and not focus on the easy fix (guns).

Again, I'm truly sorry for what you have been through and continue to go through. I cannot imagine. We as a society owe it to you and others. I'd rather have my tax dollars help people like your son than deadbeats who sell EBT cards (food stamps) to buy drugs and booze. Enough is enough already.

Now let's show some courage at the real problem and not point fingers based on politics and simpleton emotion-driven beliefs.

Friend, I am refreshed by your lucid comments and Sue...you will continue to be in my prayers as you move forward.

First, let me say that as salty and seasoned a person as I am, I was shaken to core yesterday to the point of phobic about leaving my ten-year old daughter at the group function that she normally attends on Friday nights. I cannot express my sympathy for the families of the ones who lost children. It is odd. We tend to become calloused and treat mass shootings as routine compared to the magnitude of the emotion evoked by the killing of children. I harken my emotions back to the Amish school shootings in Pennsylvania.

To our reactionary liberal friends who would use this tragedy as a mode (as President Obama already has eluded to) to take action about gun control, I would say this. This is precisely the reason that we are supposed to have the right to bear arms. I don't live that far from Newtown. Had I been close I would have taken my weapon, waded in and put that boy down like a rabid dog.

Another thing does strike me though. We now have a classification and a history with a type of mass killing called "school shooting". While I cannot speak to the issues of mental illness, and won't be saying anything popular in the way of gun control...I can be absolutely certain that this kind of crime can't happen in a society that institutionalizes its kids in indoctrination factories like the public school system. It is time to look long and hard at why we abdicate our responsibility as parents and our own children's teachers. Home schooling and other alternatives to the public school system are not only more beneficial...they are safer. I know who my daughter spends time with and is interacting with. Of course, I can't keep her completely safe. Freedom is not safe...it isn't supposed to be. But that kind of parenting shifts the responsibility from two adults for one child instead of a handful for six hundred.

You realize what you are advocating for?

1 in 5 people have a mental health diagnosis sometime in their lifetime. So you are going to "house" and remove from society those 1 in 5?

Are you going to remove people with depression? How about ADHD? Anxiety? PTSD?

Talk about increasing the stigma around mental health. If the stigma was less, people could talk about what was going on.

NO, the root cause of death by guns are, GUNS.

GUNS KILL !!!

If there are no guns, you have no death from guns.

Guns have ONE purpose, to KILL. There is NO other purpose for a GUN.

It is not meant for exercise, for driving, for cutting, for any other purpose. A gun is designed to KILL.

It is long past time we amend the Constitution to remove the aberation known as the "Right to Arms."

It IS NOT A RIGHT TO ARMS, IT HAS BECOME A RIGHT TO KILL.

@dirp

NO, the root cause of death by guns are, GUNS.

GUNS KILL !!!

If there are no guns, you have no death from guns.

Guns have ONE purpose, to KILL. There is NO other purpose for a GUN.

It is not meant for exercise, for driving, for cutting, for any other purpose. A gun is designed to KILL.

It is long past time we amend the Constitution to remove the aberation known as the "Right to Arms."

It IS NOT A RIGHT TO ARMS, IT HAS BECOME A RIGHT TO KILL.

I see. So once guns are gone there will be no more murder. Correct? By the way, the guns I use for target shooting have never killed anything. But, guns are only made for killing, per your divine wisdom. How do you explain this conundrum?

hey dirp why dont you tell the crooks who already have guns and don't care about no laws they need to get rid of their guns. so you dont think we need to arm ourselves with guns to protect us from these armed vigilantes who would just as soon see us pushing up daisies. R.I.P. +.

dirp,

You are certainly idealistic! Just how do you suppose we remove millions of guns from our society? Realistically do you think for one moment that everyone criminal or not will just turn in their guns? Do you think that harvesting another 100 acres of trees for the paper to write more restrictive gun laws will actually help guard against someone that is intent on killing? Think about what you are saying and what you believe for one moment. Is it honestly practical? What will be next, outlawing knives, forks, cars, household cleaning products, anything that can potentially used to kill? No the problem is, has, and always will be with people not the objects they use. This will be true long after you and your hatred of guns and gun owners is dead and gone.

Eric,

Yes Eric I know full well what I am advocating for even if you think it won't solve anything. Did you ever stop to think that maybe the way these people are evaluated, or treated is wrong? Did you ever stop to think that these diseases are more problems with behavior than the are actually a physical disorder? We have become advanced enough to see chemical differences in humans, yet we still do not understand how these differences affect individuals. Each person is unique, in physical make up, body chemistry, and personality, we can only generalize how a person might respond to a therapy and even then no two people respond exactly the same.

DIRK,,, they tried that nonsense in Canada,, cost was100`s of million dollars and accomplished nothing.. Gun control had absolutly nothing to do with newtown,,he stole the weapons used,, how does gun control prevent that

You realize what you are advocating for? 1 in 5 people have a mental health diagnosis sometime in their lifetime. So you are going to "house" and remove from society those 1 in 5? Are you going to remove people with depression? How about ADHD? Anxiety? PTSD? Talk about increasing the stigma around mental health. If the stigma was less, people could talk about what was going on.

Xbonz - that's what the professionals are for. Someone who has depression (linked to bi-polar disorder, which in and of itself has many different levels), ADHD, anxiety, or PTSD is likely not going to shoot up a school classroom of five and six year olds, or a mall or a church packed with innocents. Get with the program and wake up. We should be able to categorize their stability. Specifically, as Sue referenced above with her very own son. We have the professionals and the capability to do so.

Finally, per my original post, we used to have a lot more housing for the mentally ill in this nation and programs/institutions to address it. THAT is what I'm talking about. It's a bigger and more complex issue and we MUST address it and spend the money to do so. Your knee-jerk reaction to my comment will solve nothing if we continue to stick our heads in the sand, and we will continue to see these tragedies even if the UN tries to take all our guns (which they will never, EVER do).

How can you not see it? The gun caused the crimes in excess of those that could have been perpetrated by the crazy person had he only had a knife. The gun is accessory to those extra murders. The gun aided the perpetrator to commit a large portion of these murders. Without the gun's involvement, the body count could not be what it is.

Agreed. A gun lets someone shoot many people from a distance. A knife requires the person to get close up. A stick of dynamite would be another item that would be an accessory to extra murders.

Fact: Guns, Knives, and Dynamite are not going away. Neither are people who want to do harm to others.

You can guard the door and someone will come through the window. Training and drilling so we are aware and able to take faster action will limit casualties for the instances we aren't aware enough to report individuals who exhibit warning signs.

I will paraphrase a line from Star Trek...originally plagerized from Joseph Stalin. The line comes from the character Spock talking to Dr. McCoy after the realization that 400 Vulcans had just been slaughtered.

Spock-How easy is for you to understand the death of one, then the death of a million. You speak of the coldness of the Vulcan heart (centered around logic), but how very little there is in yours.

McCoy-Suffer the death of thy neighbor, Spock? You wouldn't have wished that on us would you.

Spock-It might have rendered your Earth history...a bit less bloody.

The US leads the world in school shootings and we have the most guns. Is that a simple coincidence? NO.

Wake up and smell the coffee. I read, "let's arm the teachers". You really want shoot outs at school?

We need to do something about increasing mental health funding and access to guns.

A gun is a tool whose only purpose is TO KILL. It has no other purpose.

At one time, the constitution allowed another "tool", slaves.

That was proven wrong.

Just as we changed the constitution to get rid of another anachronism, we need to get rid of GUNS

I suppose you are fond of your analogy, but seriously, it is ridiculous. When was the last time you saw a news story describing the use of a slave to murder innocent people?

Alcohol was legal, then illegal, then legal again, What are we to determine from that? That changing the Constitution is good, then bad, then good again? Who gets to decide whether a change is effective?

Do you honestly think that any restraint on firearms would put the smallest dent in violence in the world? If so, you are the most naive person posting here. It wouldn't matter if the entire United States banned firearms for eternity, supply and demand would maintain a status quo, and the current stockpile of weapons already in the possession of people in the private sector would put the kabosh on your plan.

People who ignore the law, would in fact, ignore the law, no matter what you attempted to accomplish with new legislation.

Every controlled substance on the books is illegal to possess, manufacture, and sell without going through the proper channels, yet the flow of these substances, through illegal means has not ceased. How would your new gun laws affect anything?

How exactly would you "get rid of guns"? In the event that you could convince anyone to repeal the 2nd amendment, do you you truly believe all of the current gun owners would just voluntarily relinquish possession of the weapons they already own? I hate to have to, but I gotta ask, are you really that dumb?

One last thought. You are 100% correct, the only purpose of a gun is to kill. The only purpose, and they have been around for several hundred years, in many forms. Your ancestors for a fact, used them to feed themselves, protect themselves......etc...... The manufacture, and use of weaponry has been a part of human culture from the inception of human existence. If you want my attention you'll have to do far better.

Wonderful words. One can't help but wonder where we would be today if this young man were in proper treatment and not in a place where he could access firearms.

As much as I hate to say this, I will make a prediction. There will be more shootings at schools. Just like they will happen at malls, or possibly even sport events. And more victims in greater numbers then 27. One can bet the family farm on this. Regardless how sick to my stomach this makes me feel.

It won't be the guns that do this. It will be a human being using it,who probably has some very serious issues going on. It may even be two people. But if this was a lottery, and people were to place bets on it happening or not with a million dollars that it would, folks might as well start their wish list. It is just a matter of when. You can't stop just plain evil, nor people being sick enough to carry mass killings out for their own perverted reasons that will never make any sense.

Yes there will be people that kill, but they will be holding guns. The US leads the world in these kinds of events. To say that guns are not involved is insanity.

By Wednesday, this will be out of most people's heads. Until it happens again... and it is going to happen again.

Problem is, what the hell are we supposed to do?

The guns are already out there, so gun control laws are not a realistic answer. Sure, we can lock down and put guards up at schools, but how does that prevent this from happening at malls, movie theaters or other public places?

What are we suppose to do? Never leave home? Lock up every person that has a mental issue? Put a soldier or a cop in every public place? Sadly, there are no feasible answers to stop this sh*t from happening over and over and over again.

So, a couple more schools will put up metal detectors and we'll forget about this by next week, because mass denial is the only thing we suck at worse than learning our lesson.

Sorry for rambling... very aggravated atm.

Oh yes, be careful and stay at home.......there are hundreds of guns running around just waiting to go off - at everyone! They are beginning to cluster together now, and the fire power is stronger....beware. Stay at home. Stay in your basements, and cover your windows. Guns are massing together.........

You people are crazier than I am. The kid stole his mother's guns and killed her because she probably tried to prevent his taking them. After she was dead, he probably thought he would go to the school where she perhaps taught and take out some of her students. Who know what was in the mind of this juvie. It's a sick world, getting sicker all the time.

I think an effective solution would be to make gun owning employees an insurance liability. Employers should be required to buy $100,000,000 of liability insurance if it employs a gun owner, per location these employees happen to work. The high level of insurance is because of the number of people that can fall victim when a gun is used.

The school should be held responsible to pay for these deaths and these injured because it employed the owner of the guns that killed and injured. If the school did not employ this gun owner, this school would never have been the sight of a massacre yesterday. At the very least they and every other employer should be insured for the results.

Making gun ownership an economic liability is the quickest path to making this society safe. Since the GOP under the control of the NRA refuses to establish any reasonable regulation of guns, then society should seek the regulation they desire by other means, in this case using market forces to provide factors that limit gun ownership in society. This can be done at the state level, which can expedite the spread of regulation faster than the federal government, where such legislation be held up by the GOP controlled house.

Seriously? This person would not have gone to a friend's house or obtained a weapon elsewhere? What would happen if he bought a weapon illegally off the street? And you want to pass a law that after the fact makes the school liable for hiring someone who legally purchased a gun. And award a lawsuit that this town's taxpayers will have to cover. You do know schools are not big bank type corporations that make lots of money off customers but are funded by you and me.

You might be surprised how many businesses employee someone who is a licensed gun owner or hunter. 100 million dollar insurance policies for them all? Are you a lobbyist for the insurance industry?

Besides...it is none of your employees business as to whether or not you are licensed to carry.

No I do not want to pass a law that would retroactively make the school liable, I want all employers liable from now on. You ask if this person could have gone to a friend to get the gun. I say that if this hypothetical friend faced a tight job market with employers that avoided employing gun owners, the friend wouldn't own the gun to give.

...it is the free-market solution to lax gun laws.

As for whether the question of an employee's status as it concerns gun ownership is the business of business, of course it is. If an employer can make a judgement call on employing someone because they are overweight or they smoke or use drugs or anything that could effect the business ...gun ownership is absolutely the business of business.

^correction: I want all employers to be insured against the liability they open themselves to by employing a gun owner, though actual liability should be determined in a court.

Two of the murdered women had their Concealed Carry Permits, how many kids do you think would have been murdered if they had not been disarmed by your beloved gun control? How many children would have died if the murderer was killed before he shot the first child? YOUR BELOVED GUN CONTROL allowed the murderer a SAFE MURDER ZONE.

Juan - if they don`t let God be in charge of our schools an [sic] courts anymore sombody [sic] else gonna do it

God never was in charge of our schools and courts. Have you seen Her lately?

What exactly has occurred any time, in your life time that makes you think there is a "GOD" in "CHARGE" OF ANYTHING?

No "God" would create this whole scenario, just to watch it go up in smoke!

No "God" would create a race of men expecting them to worship and follow "Him", and then create a "demon" who's sole purpose is to distract you from this same "God".

These are concepts created by "MEN", in an attempt to explain their existence, and behaviors, at a time when they had no knowledge of the universe.

When will you all learn that you cannot explain these events with religion and have it make any kind of sense. If they happen because "god" can't interfere with free will, then this same "freewill" would prevent "god" from ever doing anything!

if you are carrying a gun i as an american citizen have a right to know that you are carrying a deadly weapon that you could kill me with. it should be against the law to conceal a deadly weapon. worn in sight just like knives are supposed to be. its illegal to hide knives and they are a bit less deadly than guns.

realityseeker - More law abiding citizens need to carry concealed weapons for these types of situations to be stopped or minimized.

Children are law-abiding citizens. So you are suggesting that if these five-year-olds had guns, they could have defended their lives. Good idea.

Criminals don't get concealed weapons licenses.

Actually, texastornado55, some gun owners would prefer to carry their handguns out in the open. Our laws don't allow that; they require that the gun be concealed, supposedly to prevent alarming other people. If I ever decide to carry a gun, I personally would be more comfortable carrying concealed as I believe the element of surprise is often invaluable when confronting an armed criminal. But I think law-abiding folks who who prefer to carry openly should be allowed to do so.

mozzie-600: That is such an ignorant question that I can't believe I'm even responding to it. Of course I'm referring to adult school faculty and not children. Children cannot purchase or be licensed to conceal carry firearms.

realityseeker - That is such an ignorant question that I can't believe I'm even responding to it. Of course I'm referring to adult school faculty and not children. Children cannot purchase or be licensed to conceal carry firearms.

I guess you didn't feel my pulling your leg, eh? I try not to miss a chance to take a "shot" at the NRA members. I'm not surprised you didn't understand the sarcasm.

If only it was that difficult to legally get a gun everywhere....Unfortunately, current federal law requires criminal background checks only for guns sold through licensed firearm dealers, which account for just 60% of all gun sales in the United States. A loophole in the law allows individuals not “engaged in the business” of selling firearms to sell guns without a license—and without processing any paperwork. That means that two out of every five guns sold in the United States change hands without a background check.

And when it's more difficult to obtain guns legally, it will be more difficult to obtain guns illegally.

I live in AZ and there is an auction right down the road where ANYONE can purchase numerous weapons...mentally ill or not.

"It's no longer IN GOD WE TRUST"

Because trusting God to protect these children really worked. What kind of God lets these things happen?

Furthermore....based on the concept of an omnipresent and omnipotent God why were these kids not spared?

And...if everything happens for a reason that this was part of Gods plan.

I can not worship a God that allows something like this to happen.

No matter what the story is there is always an atheist out their trying to destroy the belief in God. God gave us free will otherwise we would be nothing more than puppets. Humans can choose between good and evil. This shooter took the choice of evil.

God,Guns, and Guts keep america free.....

God didn't supply the crook with a gun. his mother did...

@realityseeker

We can only state our case. Whether you choose reason or superstition is up to you.

Ethics is a human issue.

Disabled-------------BULL-S--t! period

A mere charge of D.V. will not prevent you from ever owning a gun, check your facts before you post!

The only citizens who cannot, absolutely legally own a handgun, and I stress handgun, are those with a verifiable FELONY conviction! I have a felony conviction, and I can buy a mail-order black powder pistol, or rifle in kit form, put it together, and fire away to my heart's content. I was @ Wall Drug in South Dakota in 2009, where they have a very nice selection of black powder handguns, and I could have walked out of there with one of them that very day. I am also able to apply for, and obtain the right to purchase and own a hunting rifle. The restrictions on criminal ownership are not nearly as stringent as you would have people believe my friend.

I think the question should be "What is a mom who teaches kindergarten for a living doing with three legally obtained weapons in her home and obviously accessible to others, grown children or not.”

Because it is her right as an American

Plenty of people still need guns for (a) protection (b) many people I know happen to grow and hunt thier own food. I have one friend who spends very little money at the grocery store outside of paper goods.

I think I would sit down with her and discuss how it makes her feel and help her write her report. Talking about how you feel about something is a lot more healing than keeping it all bottled up inside and letting it fester because you think nobody wants to hear you whine. I do agree that it is too soon. She needs some time to get her feelings sorted out. Right now she is probably too shocked and confused to think straight, but I would sit down with her and have an earnest talk anyway.

Do your work regardless of how you feel about it .....it is life and its not always pretty. The quicker they realize this the better prepared for life they are!

I have a fourth & sixth grade daughter and do not have an issue with an assignment that allows for this type of reflection.

aggreed!

And how do you know the mother didn't have the guns under lock and key? Were you there? Remember the son killed her there and mutilated her. He probably killed her while she was trying to keep him from getting the guns. My guns are loaded all the time here and not locked up. If a bear were to come in the door here in the woods, what good would that locked up gun do me? NO GOOD. But in her case in the city or town or village, I bet you anything those guns were locked up. And he found the key.

I hope all those people who own guns not to do crazy things because the more shootings there are, the more likely people will request something need to be done and more excuse to the government to remove all the guns.

So you think it's okay for other people's children to die in order to allow you to own your guns. Awesome. If your own children died in an incident like this, you'd be okay with that, right? Your own family members dying in gun-related violence would be perfectly acceptable as long as you were able to arm yourself?

Morons like these likely don't bother with dating/marriage/children. At least I hope they don't.

This is a great point....think about it, as a society we seem to value the life of an animal over that of a human. If a dog is shot in a movie thier is an out cry but, 100 people could be shot and its not an issue. If we only valued a human life like a dogs.

Why would god do that? He let their kids be killed.

We are not short of unmitigated disasters that we can point to and ask "why would God let this happen". A few years ago, a quarter of million people were killed by by a Tsunami...where was God then? The same place he has always been...true to his Word of "Free Will"... you can not have joy without sorrow.

The best thing you can do with your guns right now is shove them up your ass.

You don't have a clue what a firefight is like, kid. Grow up. Life isn't TV.

That was my thought exactly. If I ever hear gunshots from the school across the street from my house, me and Mr Ruger are gonna go over there and put a quick stop to the bull $hi7. Croooks, Creeps and Crazies will be the only ones who have guns when the anti gun nuts get through. It's pretty common knowledge that the guy(s) who bust into my house in the middle of the night will be carried back out. There are places in the world where law abiding citizens are required to have guns and be trained in their use. Needless to say, their crime rates are much lower than ours. No, I don't remember exactly which countries, cities or states they are, but I remember reading about them.

Yes, tx, you're a real man, a macho man, a boasting braggart with balls of steel!

You're also full of sh!t.

LOL!!! How old are you? Five?

No, a$$hole, I'm 65 with 28 years of military training behind me and have more balls than most of the men in this country. I don't take no $hit off nobody and anybody who knows me will tell you so. I'll shoot some dangerous SOB in a heart beat to save innocent lives. Would you? or would you be hiding under a desk crying "Please don't hurt me"? There are some of us in this country who are NOT craven cowards.

One of the places I mentioned in my last post in Kennesaw GA. They have the lowest crime rate in the US.

Oh, and BTW, I am not male and you AIN'T God

OK, so you're a real woman, an old woman, a macho woman, a boasting braggart with boobs of steel and penis envy.

I stand corrected.

And you're still full of sh!t.

phuccyu. I can get penis anytime I want it and you are stuck with what Ma Nature gave you. You, sir are an a$$. The more you post, the more you prove it. I bet you beat your wife just to show her who's the boss. My gun is strictly to defend me against guys like you. They don't call me a little badger for nothing. Ever tangle with a badger??

They don't call me a little badger for nothing.

They got tired of calling you a little beaver? If you were a man they'd be calling you a little dick.

I imagine those gun barrels make pretty good dildos, huh? 

I was airborne for 6 years, did 2 combat tours (envious much?) and I knew guys like you. They were usually the first to get killed.

-god: You are a liar! The only thing I think was airborne is your head and it still is. You sound like a little name calling brat who got showed up by the lady. As for your response to lgccac. It would'nt have been a fire fight if someone who was armed had put a bullet in that mental case before things got out of hand?

Considering that two of the adults killed had their CCW, but were diarmed by the gun control laws, it would have probably been over before the bastard even saw a child.

@-god, Those who advance towards the enemy are called heroes, those who condemn them are usually cowards. I served 12 years, and have also run towards the shot in the civilian world. But you go ahead and forget your oath to defend the Constitution and find a big rock to cower behind.

... and when we measure our gun law effectiveness by dead children's bodies, make sure you preempt anti gun rhetoric with the old "guns don't kill" mantra. people just keeeeep believing that one. Or maybe the old "if a caterpillar bulldozer ran into a school and killed children would you outlaw them"? Funny the spate of Caterpillar killings that have taken out schools and malls and politicians and musicians and theater goers and college students. It's so obvious that more guns will solve the problem.... oh yeah - let's just add some "Mexican drug smuggler" blurbs.

More guns has been working well, since in 1980 there were begtween 100,000 and 150,000 CCW holders, and the murder rate was OVER 10 per 100,000, 150% higher than the 4 per 100,000 we have now, with about 5.5 MILLION CCW holders across the country.

But go ahead and push your gun control, and think about the two adults who were killed who had their CCWs, and were disarmed to die by your beloved gun control laws. And think about all the children who died after those two adults, who could have stopped it if not for your beloved gun control laws.

Troll.

South Africa also has the second highest murder rate in the world, and one of the highest rates of rape. Yes, by all means, let's model ourselves after them.

You're right Spartan117, we should not model ourselves after South Africa, not matter how many claim that limiting guns to the government is what we should do here in the US. The only reason teachers in South Africa have guns is because they are part of the government.

I'd like to post a statement made by a parent of the Columbine school shooting, this statement was made during a special session of Congress.

COLUMBINE STUDENT'S FATHER 12 YEARS LATER !!

Guess our national leaders didn't expect this. On Thursday, Darrell Scott, the father of Rachel Scott, a victim of the Columbine High School shootings in Littleton, Colorado, was invited to address the House Judiciary Committee's subcommittee. What he said to our national leaders during this special session of Congress was painfully truthful.
They were not prepared for what he was to say, nor was it received well. It needs to be heard by every parent, every teacher, every politician, every sociologist, every psychologist, and every so-called expert! These courageous words spoken by Darrell Scott are powerful, penetrating, and deeply personal. There is no doubt that God sent this man as a voice crying in the wilderness.. The following is a portion of the transcript:
"Since the dawn of creation there has been both good & evil in the hearts of men and women. We all contain the seeds of kindness or the seeds of violence. The death of my wonderful daughter, Rachel Joy Scott, and the deaths of that heroic teacher, and the other eleven children who died must not be in vain. Their blood cries out for answers.
"The first recorded act of violence was when Cain slew his brother Abel out in the field. The villain was not the club he used.. Neither was it the NCA, the National Club Association. The true killer was Cain, and the reason for the murder could only be found in Cain's heart.
"In the days that followed the Columbine tragedy, I was amazed at how quickly fingers began to be pointed at groups such as the NRA. I am not a member of the NRA. I am not a hunter. I do not even own a gun. I am not here to represent or defend the NRA - because I don't believe that they are responsible for my daughter's death. Therefore I do not believe that they need to be defended. If I believed they had anything to do with Rachel's murder I would be their strongest opponent
I am here today to declare that Columbine was not just a tragedy -- it was a spiritual event that should be forcing us to look at where the real blame lies! Much of the blame lies here in this room. Much of the blame lies behind the pointing fingers of the accusers themselves. I wrote a poem just four nights ago that expresses my feelings best.

Your laws ignore our deepest needs,
Your words are empty air.
You've stripped away our heritage,
You've outlawed simple prayer.
Now gunshots fill our classrooms,
And precious children die.
You seek for answers everywhere,
And ask the question "Why?"
You regulate restrictive laws,
Through legislative creed.
And yet you fail to understand,
That God is what we need!
Men and women are three-part beings. We all consist of body, mind, and spirit. When we refuse to acknowledge a third part of our make-up, we create a void that allows evil, prejudice, and hatred to rush in and wreak havoc. Spiritual presences were present within our educational systems for most of our nation's history. Many of our major colleges began as theological seminaries. This is a historical fact. What has happened to us as a nation? We have refused to honor God, and in so doing, we open the doors to hatred and violence. And when something as terrible as Columbine's tragedy occurs -- politicians immediately look for a scapegoat such as the NRA. They immediately seek to pass more restrictive laws that contribute to erode away our personal and private liberties. We do not need more restrictive laws. Eric and Dylan would not have been stopped by metal detectors. No amount of gun laws can stop someone who spends months
planning this type of massacre. The real villain lies within our own hearts.
"As my son Craig lay under that table in the school library and saw his two friends murdered before his very eyes, he did not hesitate to pray in school. I defy any law or politician to deny him that right! I challenge every young person in America , and around the world, to realize that on April 20, 1999, at Columbine High School prayer was brought back to our schools. Do not let the many prayers offered by those students be in vain. Dare to move into the new millennium with a sacred disregard for legislation that violates your God-given right to communicate with Him. To those of you who would point your finger at the NRA -- I give to you a sincere challenge.. Dare to examine your own heart before casting the first stone!
My daughter's death will not be in vain! The young people of this country will not allow that to happen!"
Darrell Scott
Do what the media did not - - let the nation hear this man's speech. Please send this out to everyone you can.
God Bless

Listen up all you naive city-slickers who have never handled firearms:

What about all of us jaded, ex-airborne gun owners, dipsh!t? 

You think there are only two kinds of people in the world... red-blooded American Patriots who love guns or commie libs who loathe and fear them. You're an ass hole without a clue.

You're also too stupid to own a gun. The world isn't black and white, and if you can't think clearly enough to realize that, you can't be a responsible gun owner.

Like what you say!! The problem is not the gun it is the person who has problems with what they can do they anti gun people should stop Hollywood from making the violent movies that imprsss the nuts..

god is a troll...

I speak the truth, little one.

This would have not happened in a city the same way because city schools at least in most you will find metal detectors at the entrance that all people have to go through.

Not to mention security and armed school resource officers.

I am a city slicker, living in the city limits of a large city. I have handled and shot rifles in my life, for protection against grizzly bears primarily. That is a purpose for which I would support owning a rifle. I support bans on assualt weapons and large ammo clips because those types of weapons belong only in the military, the only use they have is for mass killing. There has been zero situations where an armed citizen has saved anyone from one of these mass murderer. It does not happen, ever. Only the police are effective at stopping single shooters.

White suburban America likes to think that gun violence only happnes in the inner city

Yes...you are right an armed citizen has not stopped one school shooting you know why.....

gun control, as a school is one of the places you can not carry your firearm.

My daughter is in fifth grade and has been watching this story closely. She thinks the best plan is to increase security on the school premises by adding gates with entry codes or with a security guard, and I agree. This is a solution that can be implemented without the delay of legal debate. Our children are precious and every community should take action to protect school campuses. A security gate with a guard creates an obstacle for an intruder and provides a short window for leaders in the school to secure the school quickly. HOUSTON, TX.