Conn. school massacre victims all shot multiple times, chief medical officer says

The small Connecticut town of Newtown is grieving in the aftermath of Friday's deadly school shootings. NBC's Anne Thompson reports.

Updated at 7:19 p.m. ET: The 20 children and six adults killed in the Newtown school massacre were all shot multiple times, many with a rifle, Connecticut’s chief medical examiner said Saturday.

The children – 12 girls and eight boys – were all 6 or 7 years old, Dr. H. Wayne Carver said at an afternoon news briefing.

“This is a very devastating set of injuries,” Carver said. “I believe everyone was hit more than once.”


He said all the victims at Sandy Hook Elementary died of gunshot wounds and all the deaths have been classified as homicides.


Carver said he personally performed seven autopsies and those children had between three and 11 wounds each. Two were shot at close range, the others at a distance.

Asked whether they suffered, he grimly replied, “Not for very long.”

He said he will perform an autopsy Sunday on the suspected gunman, Adam Lanza, 20, who is believed to have killed himself. He will also do an autopsy on Lanza’s mother, Nancy Lanza, 52, who was found dead in her Newtown home.

President Barack Obama will travel to Newtown on Sunday to meet with the victims' families and thank first responders, the White House announced Saturday night. The president will also speak at an interfaith vigil for families of the victims as well as families from Sandy Hook Elementary School. 

The motive for the mass killing, the second-deadliest school shooting in U.S. history, was unknown.

“We’ve been doing everything we need to do to peel back the onion, layer by layer, and get more information,” Connecticut State Police Lt. Paul Vance said earlier.

"Our investigators at the crime scene ... did produce some very good evidence in this investigation that our investigators will be able to use in, hopefully, painting the complete picture as to how - and more importantly why - this occurred.”

Connecticut Chief Medical Examiner H. Wayne Carver provides an update to the media after he and his team examined the victims' bodies at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown following Friday's shootings.

Four doctors and 10 technicians, plus a college student working her first day with the medical examiner’s office, toiled into Friday night to identify the victims.

They took photos of their faces and then showed the pictures to families of the 12 girls and eight boys, all first graders. “It’s easier on the families when you do this,” Carver said.

He said that he managed to maintain professional composure during the work, but it was a challenge.

“I’ve been at this for a third of a century and my sensibility may not be the average man’s, but this is probably the worst I’ve seen,” Carver said.

 At the end of the briefing, authorities handed out a list of the victims, who included the school principal and school psychologist.

Newtown’s first selectman, Patricia Llodra, pleaded for privacy for the grieving families, each assigned their own trooper.

“We are a strong and caring place. We will find a way to heal so that all of our residents young and old find peace,” Llodra said. Please know that we have suffered a terrible loss and we need your respect on this terrible journey.”

Although the bodies were removed from the suburban hilltop school, authorities said it would take at least two more days for investigators to finish combing over the crime scene.

Police have determined that the gunman was not buzzed into Sandy Hook, where he was once a student.

“He forced his way into the school,” Vance said. He did not provide specifics and said that broken windows at the school may have been shattered by police who responded to the emergency.

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The second-deadliest school shooting in U.S. history sent crying children spilling into the school parking lot as frightened parents waited for word on their loved ones.

In the confusing aftermath of the shooting, law-enforcement sources gave out conflicting information about what transpired.

Several media organizations, relying on information provided by law-enforcement sources, initially reported that the shooter had been identified as Lanza’s older brother. Officials later corrected that mistake.

There was also conflicting information about what type of weapons Lanza had.

At one point, law enforcement officials told NBC News that Lanza had four handguns while he stalked the halls of Sandy Hook, but that could not be confirmed. It appears he carried at least two 9mm handguns, in addition to the rifle, which was the primary weapon.

Officials also told NBC News that Lanza unsuccessfully tried to buy a rifle at a Dick’s Sporting Goods store in Danbury three days before the slaughter, but later said they could not confirm the report, which was based on tips from members of the public.

Investigators and former classmates of Connecticut school shooter Adam Lanza say he was bright, but extremely shy and remote. NBC's Pete Williams reports.

Police provided little information about the shooter’s state of mind. Lanza’s brother told police the gunman had a history of mental problems, though a classmate from Newtown High School recalled him as a generally happy person.

“We would hang out, and he was a good kid,” Joshua Milas, who had not seen Lanza in a few years, told The Associated Press. “He was probably one of the smartest kids I know. He was probably a genius.”

Newtown Police Lt. George Sinko said the entire town of 27,000 – a New England bedroom community some 60 miles from New York City and known for its good schools – was reeling.

“We never thought this would happen here,” Sinko said. “Our hearts are broken for the families of these victims.”

Of the many questions surrounding the tragedy, none was more poignant than those posed by the parents of the dead children, who shared their worst fears about their children’s final moments with clergy consoling them.

“They were wondering whether the children knew what was happening to them, whether they were afraid,” said Monsignor Robert Weiss of St. Rose of Lima Church, who met with the families.

The Newtown school superintendent, Janet Robinson, said the body count would have been even higher if not for staff who rushed to protect their young charges. 

“A lot of children are alive today because of actions the teachers took,” she said.

Below is the list of the victims' names released by the chief medical examiner's office.

Children:

  • Charlotte Bacon, 6
  • Daniel Barden, 7
  • Olivia Engel, 6
  • Josephine Gay, 7
  • Ana M. Marquez-Greene, 6
  • Dylan Hockley, 6
  • Madeleine F. Hsu, 6
  • Catherine V. Hubbard, 6
  • Chase Kowalski, 7
  • Jesse Lewis, 6
  • James Mattioli, 6
  • Grace McDonnell, 7
  • Emilie Parker, 6
  • Jack Pinto, 6
  • Noah Pozner, 6
  • Caroline Previdi, 6
  • Jessica Rekos, 6
  • Aviele Richman, 6
  • Benjamin Wheeler, 6
  • Allison N. Wyatt, 6

 Adults:

  • Dawn Hochsprung, 47
  • Rachel Davino, 29
  • Anne Marie Murphy, 52
  • Lauren Rousseau, 30
  • Mary Sherlach, 56
  • Victoria Soto, 27

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I firmly believe that this is the most senseless act of both inhumanity and coward's revenge I have ever heard of. For the victims' families my deepest sympathies and prayers but for the assailant, I hope you burn for a millenium for each young and innocent soul you stole away from innocent families. And as for the media, enough is enough. Back away from the families. Back away from the staff and community. Unless you are truly helping, don't interrogate and harass just to get money and publicity...

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Reply#29 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:33 PM EST

Why doesn't the Chief Medical Officer tell us what kind of pHARMaceutical drugs the shooter was taking?

Maybe the media will keep that info classified like they did on the Virginia Tech shooter...

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Reply#30 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:33 PM EST

I do not own a gun, but respect the desires of the individuals that do. Guns don't kill people, people kill people. What needs to be looked at is why the guns were in a house with a mentally unstable individual. It is the responsibility of the gun owner to keep their property out of the control of anyone else. Owning a gun carries a grave responsibility, people need to think through the consequences of their actions, and the impact their carelessness may cause on other people. Maybe part of the gun purchase process should include viewing the pictures of the crimes scene, so people can see what happens when they loose control of their weapon, not completely unlike showing pictures of car crashes to student drivers. It is only education that will resolve this issue, not shouting and arguing.

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Reply#31 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:34 PM EST

It is the responsibility of the gun owner to keep their property out of the control of anyone else. Owning a gun carries a grave responsibility, people need to think through the consequences of their actions, and the impact their carelessness may cause on other people.

Well, you lost the gun fetishists there, Concerned; they want to have unlimited access to all the weapons they want, but their safe storage and use should only be "voluntary." They want their guns out, unlocked, and loaded at all times in case zombies or blah people try to break into their house or the black helicopters start buzzing their houses...

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#31.1 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:15 PM EST

A smart gun could cure the problem of having your weapon stolen or losing control of it.

There are some that have proposed 'smart guns' which would incorporate RFID, fingerprint recognition, or magnetic ring technology. The gun would only function for the registered owner or owners.

Something like this would prevent someone from stealing other people's guns & using them. Or a bad guy getting the upper hand during a struggle & taking the good guy's gun away & then using it on the good guy.

But the technology would need to be 100% reliable. It wouldn't be any good if you needed to use your gun in a self defense situation & the damn thing didn't fire because it didn't recognize you as the owner.

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#31.2 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:21 PM EST
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God help us all...pray for these families and their children and adult loved ones who lost their lives. I am bereft of understanding.

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Reply#32 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:34 PM EST

they've been trying to link an assault rifle to this since it started. initial reports were that they found 9mm shell casings. which the glock and sig could easily hold 15plus rounds lot quicker changing those clips than an ar's.

    Reply#33 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:34 PM EST

    He said the primary weapon was a rifle.

    What? I heard he had 2-- 9mm handguns, and that a rifle was found in his car.. Does anyone know for sure what the hell is happening?

      Reply#34 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:35 PM EST

      sounds like gun control conspiracy........ a knife never runs out.

        #34.1 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:39 PM EST
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        Re: Meredith P:

        It is a popular misconception to say that guns don't kill people, people kill people. But, people with guns kill people. We need to revamp the way weapons are accessed in our society. I would, for one, like to see the Elks or the Knights, or Masons, or any other similar civic organization be given the responsibility to have a role in the issuance of guns. They could say, yeah, this person is stand-up, this person is sane. Or no, this person is not sane, or their kid is an issue. Or there is a history of mental illness in that family and proximity to a gun would not be an idea. Reinsert the humanity to our system. We have to do something. This happens to frequently for us not to act as a society. The NRA should propose some such similar changes.

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        Reply#35 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:36 PM EST

        People with knives, axes, cars, hatchets, rocks, and strangulation kill people too. How are you going to ban everything used to kill people? Bare hands can kill too.

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        #35.1 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:49 PM EST

        Shorter Gina--"we shouldn't have no gun laws PERIOD!!!1!1!one!"...

          #35.2 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:17 PM EST

          @ Gina

          One person, like this assailant, cannot kill 26 people and himself in a few minutes using a knife, axe, car, hatchet, rocks or strangulation. Guns are always the weapon of choice when available. Needless to say they are very available in this country, don't you think?

          And there were no survivors. Guns are so efficient when used against humans, not like the alternates you mention (sarcasm).

          What more will it take?

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          #35.3 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:28 PM EST

          @ Illinois

          I get the feeling you're in favor of banning guns...We tried banning alcohol during prohibition. That worked well didn't it?

          Lets review all of the bans we already have in place, shall we.

          1. Murder is banned

          2. Rape is banned

          3. Burglary is banned

          4. Robbery is banned

          5. Arson is banned

          6. Drunk Driving is banned

          7. Illicit drugs are banned

          8. Prostitution is banned

          9. Vandalism is banned

          Should I continue?

          Wow, all of these bans sure are working well to stop people from doing all of these things, right? We shouldn't have anything to fear at all in society with all of these wonderful bans in place that protect everyone.

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          #35.4 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:33 PM EST

          @ slacker

          Don't worry. There are plenty of guns in the United States. We'll never run out of guns. Think about our future: you can have a gun in the car, a gun under your bed, a gun in the bathroom, a gun in the shower, a gun on your riding mower. The age for concealed carry will be reduced to ten years of age. What a great gift for your daughter on her tenth birthday, a pink Glock "Hello Kitty model" 9mm to carry in her backpack to school.

          We are devolving into paranoia and insanity.

          Bottom line, no guns in that lady's house, no massacre yesterday.

          Buy a gun, but realize it is more likely to eventually take the life of a family member, or friend or you than an attacker.

          Our country just made another installment payment on the cost of the right to bear assault weapons. Thanks for not caring about that.

            #35.5 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 11:35 PM EST
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            i'm sure the gun dealer followed the letter of the law but any moron would know that shooters mother was making a straw purchase which is illegal. i highly doubt the dealer thought mom needed an ar15, a glock, and a sig. if anyone needs to share blame the dealer has some coming to him. and mom has a lot of the blame....buying those for psychoboy

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            Reply#36 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:38 PM EST

            @ Danmj, and how do you know what the mother did or didn't do. Are you ASSuming?

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            #36.1 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:53 PM EST

            they said the weapons were in her name. psychoboy wasn't old enough to buy handguns.....legally

              #36.2 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:56 PM EST

              My point is...how do you know she bought them for her son?

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              #36.3 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:05 PM EST

              ASSuming indeed.

                #36.4 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 7:24 PM EST
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                I am firmly anti-gun, but I have family members who hunt. Okay. I don't agree with it but that is their right. Especially since these family members have young children in the house, I can't understand why you would have guns at all. But these are shotguns. Not assault rifles, not handguns. What do you need a semi-automatic weapon for? Are the deer shooting back. Why do you need to shoot 30 or 50 rounds a minute. A shotgun with two bullets can do damage, and again I want nothing to do with one, but at least to use one you have to stop and reload before you can shoot someone 3 to 11 times. Time for the lawmakers to wake up and realize that no matter what the NRA says no one needs that kind of firepower outside of the military!

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                Reply#37 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:39 PM EST

                well remember those thoughts when you're waiting on the police. one legally armed civilian with a pistol could have stopped all that yesterday. a teacher.....somebody. yesterday is what you get when you can't defend you or your loved ones.

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                #37.1 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:45 PM EST

                Baloney. The shooter was wearing a bulletproof vest and was armed to the teeth, including with an assault weapon. It's pure fantasy to think he could have been stopped so easily.

                Only someone who has never really been around guns would say such a dumb thing. (Married to a cop here.)

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                #37.2 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:49 PM EST

                well i'm at the range every week with my m4, and sigs.....and yes i do believe i could make a headshot or die trying to protect those children. God forbid he might have had a box cutter and would rather crash than get cut.

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                #37.3 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:58 PM EST

                well if your wife cop is nypd i'd believe it.......they can't hit a building.

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                #37.4 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:02 PM EST

                Slightly different circumstance but someone posted this story about a school shooter earlier.

                John-3295642

                Public schools need to stop having a policy of zero tolerance on firearms on campus. It just leaves a target rich enviroment. When a madman goes berserk with deadly force, often the only thing to stop that madman is to use deadly force against that individual. On October 1, 1997 at Pearl Highschool, there was another highschool shooting. However the shooter (Luke Woodham) was stopped when the assistant principal (Joel Myrick), retrieved a .45 handgun from his vehicle and confronted the shooter. The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.

                @ Informed

                It is possible to take someone out with a handgun even if the other person is armed with an AR-15 & a couple of handguns. You're assuming everything ends up being a face to face standoff/fire fight. An armed teacher could approach from a different direction or from behind the killer & take them out without the killer even ever having seen them.

                Every situation is different. Anything is possible. It is at least better to try & defend yourself than to sit their like a bunch of ducks waiting to get shot.

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                #37.5 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:38 PM EST

                correction...there

                  #37.6 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:45 PM EST

                  @ Informed

                  Train some of these teachers to shoot proficiently & to use the guns in a safe responsible manner. Then let them keep the gun concealed on their person, just like concealed firearm permit holders do.

                  Then when some nut comes in guns blazing at least they have a fighting chance to take out the killer right then & there before they can kill 20+ people!

                  Even if an armed teacher or two died stopping the killer it would be better than 20 little kids getting executed, like in this incident.

                  Where do you think the saying - police are minutes away when seconds count - comes from. Name one of these school shootings where the police arrived in time & actually confronted the gunman in time to stop the killings.

                  Even if the police are able respond quickly they don't just rush in. No, they set up a perimeter, wait for back up, wait for SWAT, assess the situation, etc..etc...Hell, by then the killer has executed everyone that they wanted to & also killed themselves.

                  So what is your solution? Curl up in a ball on the floor sniveling like a coward while waiting for your turn to get shot dead?

                  If you don't like armed teachers then they better start putting trained armed guards inside every school in the country. Guns in this country aren't going anywhere.

                  Criminals don't follow laws & will always be able to obtain firearms regardless of what laws are passed. If criminals followed laws then the signs at the school stating - This Is a Gun Free Zone - should have been enough to stop this killer in his tracks. The signs didn't work & neither did the ban on murder that we have in this country!

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                  #37.7 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:58 PM EST
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                  Who in their right mind approved this Doctor to be interviewed on National TV and provide these details that can only hurt the families . He had no idea what he was saying, and his presentation was one level higher that an 8th grader. He should stay in the Lab , I only hope he is better in the lab.

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                  Reply#38 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:39 PM EST
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                  What a sick @!$%#. This guy shot these kids 3-11 times a piece, you really gotta hate someone to shot them like that. May he rot in hell...burn mother@!$%#er, burn!

                    Reply#39 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:40 PM EST

                    If this where my child I would not only want to see the picture, I would insist that the rest of the country see it. No matter how bad the picture was.

                    It is easy for a country to refuse to address guns when the country at large dose not see the injuries that they cause. It is easy to stand on the 2end amendment when you do not see the carnage and pain that these weapons cause.

                    The founding fathers would be sick to know that the 2end amendment is being used by some to refuse to take action on this. After all, they intended it to preserve the country and the people in it... They did not intend it to be used to justify every American having multiple firearms that where improperly secured and could be used to indiscriminately kill other Americans.

                    Gun control dose not mean that we take guns away from people so much as it means that those who have guns should be scrutinized and subject to random inspections of the individual gun owners level of security of their weapons.

                    If you would have a problem with law enforcement or the military showing up to inspect the safty of your firearms, then the simple solution would be not to have them. Inspections are the least we could do to try and stop weapons from getting into the wrong hands.

                    It would also be a good thing to have a gun owner brought up on murder charges when someone takes their weapon and uses it to kill an other.. Would not have helped in this situation since the gun owner looks to be one of the first to die, but I do think if people knew they would be responsible for the use of their weapon that they would secure them better.

                    It is long past time to put the general public and law enforcement on a footing to scrutinize all those who have a gun.

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                    Reply#40 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:41 PM EST

                    I agree QE, if the names and photos brings this home to people and forces changes to be made with our gun laws and how we deal with mental health issues then we should do it.

                      #40.1 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:47 PM EST

                      If it were my child, I would not only want to see the photo, but the body as well. I would want to see what that sob did to my child, the fruit of my body. And then I would like to see the pervert's body as well to make sure he was good and dead. But then I like proof. Absolute proof.

                      But doing away with guns is not the way to go. These things, these murders will continue. Look with pride at Chicago...how many gun murders are there every day there? Does anyone really know? Look at the border between the US and Mexico. Look what Mexico is doing to our own country. How many murders are there out there? Does anyone care? Close the borders. But don't take away our guns. And if you catch someone trying to break into you home, shoot to kill, but be sure to drag the body inside the house and hose down where you shot him in the yard.........

                        #40.2 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:40 PM EST
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                        when running background checks they should be able to access mental records.....but due to hippa they cannot. so they leave it up to the psycho to tell the truth....haha.......

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                        Reply#41 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:41 PM EST

                        You realize that this POS was not old enough to buy the weapons anyway, right?

                        But, I do agree thee is a large loophole there.

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                        #41.1 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 7:28 PM EST
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                        Dear God in Heaven, these poor teachers and babies. Five and six years old. I would like to feel sorry for the poor mentally ill shooter, but I just can't right now. At least these babies didn't live long enough to suffer. For that I am grateful for.

                          Reply#42 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:41 PM EST

                          i believe it's switzerland......every household is required to have an assault type rifle. and what's their gun carnage?

                            Reply#43 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:42 PM EST

                            Ammo is highly restricted there, so that example is not that best.

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                            #43.1 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:46 PM EST

                            Ammo is widely available over there. The government actually used to give most assault gun owners a box of ammo but that stopped a few years ago. The big difference is that they teach their kids early on that guns are a tool of defense whereas over here we tell kids that guns are for nothing but killing others.

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                            #43.2 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 7:59 PM EST
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                            Autopsy on the shooter, just incinerate the body !

                            Rest the souls of these beautiful little childern, and the adults who have departed much too soon.

                              Reply#44 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:42 PM EST

                              "Guns don't kill people, people kill people". But if these aforementioned people didn't have guns? In China, on that same day, an attack was carried out with knives as guns are not easily available to the average person. 33 people were injured. '

                              Not One Child Died. '

                              Wake up America.

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                              Reply#45 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:43 PM EST

                              Something I left off of my post above. The shooter tried to buy guns from Dicks Sporting Goods but the forms and waiting period stopped him. So at least, to a point, the law worked. It didn't save these children and reachers though did it.

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                              Reply#46 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:43 PM EST

                              Yeah, he just ended up taking the guns from a legal owner. This is worse in some ways. It shows that legal owners can be a source of guns for massacres.

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                              #46.1 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:48 PM EST
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                              This shooting, as others like it, can be attributed to the radical left wing HATE spewed by the radical left wing media.......did you sleep well last night MSNBC?

                              Obama administration let school security funds lapse...

                              As Shooting Story Unfolds, Media Struggle With Facts...

                                Reply#47 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:45 PM EST

                                You are as full of bull as you are of hatred.

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                                #47.1 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:51 PM EST

                                Go get your Koch-ie, airman--good paid troll! Gooooood paid troll!

                                woof woof!

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                                #47.2 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:21 PM EST

                                And yet, if you go this idiot's facebook page, you will see that his pollitical affiliation is "anarchist/communist."

                                So Koch is probably not to blame here, paid progressive troll.

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                                #47.3 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 7:31 PM EST
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                                I was not impressed with the interview with the medical examiner. Thought he was smart and witty. He seemed more about letting everyone know who he was and about him. He appeared cold and callous. To say the children didn't suffer long was very insensitive. For the victims families he could have just answered...no. What a pompous, egotistical a**.

                                Is it necessary to inform the public how many times a person is shot. What difference does it make. It only takes one to kill someone.

                                May God Bless the families and friends of the victims...God Bless the USA

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                                Reply#48 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:46 PM EST

                                Would you like it better if he lied? He is a man that deals with death everyday and is used to telling family members the cold hard facts about how and why their loved ones died.

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                                #48.1 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:50 PM EST

                                I am not asking for him to lie...it is called human compassion. Is that so much to ask.

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                                #48.2 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:56 PM EST

                                Yes, not only was it necessary to say how many times they got shot, they should have shown the pictures ( with family consent ).

                                Oh, and also, if you had to work on a bunch of 5 year old's dead bodies, would you not be callus and removed from emotion? Would it not be easier to do your job and tell people what happened if you suppressed your emotions. That is exactly what you saw from him. You saw disconnected emotions.. Not because he was a bad guy but because it is the only way for a person to stay sane after seeing that.

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                                #48.3 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:56 PM EST

                                No I would not be callus and removed from emotion when addressing the families or the reporters.

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                                #48.4 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:07 PM EST
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                                Whatever he used to murder the children and teachers - rifle or hand gun, automatic or not - they were his tools of choice. They did what he wanted them to do. They - the guns - did not do this on their own. As for the question about what the children were wearing? That was totally off the wall and unnecessary. How cruel for the parents. Haven't the parents suffered enough? The pictures will tear everyone up when they are released.

                                It's too bad the coward killed himself, sometimes mob violence is the best. I would have paid to see him torn limb from limb by a good mob.

                                  Reply#49 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:46 PM EST

                                  God bless these children...may the families somehow find the strength to go forward..my heart goes to them

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                                  Reply#50 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:47 PM EST

                                  There are twice as many little girls in the list as little boys.

                                  There must be more to THAT part of the story.

                                    Reply#51 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:47 PM EST

                                    Actually, when you take out the adults, the margin was 12-8 toward the girls. But it still could be something which speaks to his motive that, all taken together, the score was 18-8 female. Misogynist, maybe?...

                                      #51.1 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:23 PM EST
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                                      The new updates said that was also with him, the ME said the rifle was used on all. They were also looking for 3 other rifles, perhaps one was in the car. I wish media wouldn't be so eager to be the first to get the news out. There have been so many mistakes already by naming his brother as the killer because of the ID. This will change more and more until the investigators

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                                      Reply#52 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:47 PM EST

                                      I am sure the Founding Fathers didn't envision the arsenal of weapons used today. Never did they imagine a weapon that could fire hundreds of rounds per minute, if not seconds. I read that in Arizona a gun dealer had a sign in the window stating that a buyer could only purchase 1 AK47 (?) per day...PER DAY!!! Forget that crap about guns don't kill...people kill. Much like cell phones and computers, there are people out there that want the newest thing on the market. The gun manufacturers are giving them just that. The guns they are making are akin to portable machine guns. Why in G-d's name does anyone need weapons like this? Imagine the damage done to a 5 or 6 years old body when it's hit buy 11 bullets. The only people benefiting by making these damn weapons are the manufacturers. They make the money and our children are dying. May those children rest in peace and the gun manufacturers rot in hell. See how that money helps them then.

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                                      Reply#53 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:48 PM EST

                                      Amen!

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                                      #53.1 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:50 PM EST

                                      Don't be too sure. DaVinci designed several "machine guns" - done with multiple barrels, but still repeating.

                                        #53.2 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 7:34 PM EST

                                        Exactly!!! It's aracket gone totally ot of control and TODAY there was ANOTHER damn shooting at an Alabama hospital and three MORE dead!!! But all the idiots on who keeps defending the "right" to own all this insane hardware are the same ones who spout "pray for their poor souls as they're in a better place and are part of the same F---d up crowd who scream healthcare for all is a SIN and is the healthcare law The President passed is a violation of "freedom and liberty" in this country.
                                        Allowing every type of gun imaginable that can mow down 26 in a matter of minutes including 18 children under the age of 8 with mutliple gun shots wounds into their bodies and keep making the same tired old excuses over and over and again because the 2nd Amendment has been bastardized the gun lobby, greedy gun manfucturers by playing on the most gullible, selfish and egotistical among us-(the same ones who also believed since the end of WWII that there were commies lurking everywhere so hello COLD WAR and nuclear arms race, blacklisting innocent people, In God We Trust on all our money, on public buildings and Under God in the Pledge of Alledgiance, people getting fired from their jobs and ousted from their jobs in the government-(J. Edgar Hoover), are the same ones who think everyone who wants common sense gun laws on the books and ENFORCED "are going to BAN ALL guns and are taking their GUNS AWAY" and that the UN is a gun grabbing evil institution but that everyone should have healthcare is a "socilalist evil plot that to attack freedom". So in the name of this "so-called freedom" it is perfectly acceptable to keep letting over 45 million people die w/o it, including children and along with this feverish "right" to own guns that can kill 26 people in a matter of minutes, 20 of them being 6 and 7 year olds all in the name of THAT FREEDOM and liberty is "perfectly acceptable too" because of course "guns don't kill people, people kill people-the could have done the VERY SAME THING with a car, a knife, a bat, a hammer, the person was mentally ill when they did it, they would have found something else to kill all those people and my favorite-the states that have the strictest gun laws have to highest rate of gun violence which is PURE BS and lies anyway and we alredy have gun laws and look have much good they've done so what how is adding more going to change anything? Well the fact IS the laws we DID have were allowed to expire and THIS is the result of those expiring and they need to be REINSTATED and are GOING to be as well as closing some nasty loopholes that are allowing the sales of guns by certain dealers without any background checks on buyers to be done at all and that crap is going to end too. Screw YOU gop controlled HOUSE of BS because this S--T stops right NOW unless you want to be BURYING YOUR KIDS after seeing them riddles and bloodied with bullet holes after some nutjob with a rapid repeating weapon on a rampage goes beserk in what should be normally be considered a "safe place" and unloads a 100 round clip while they're at a movie, shopping or you're all at church?
                                        After the carnage, teatard pro-life never served in office before until I "wanted to repeal Obamacare" Ron Johnson can always go and run off his lying, idiot clueless mouth and say: "If somebody had been armed, maybe more lives would have been saved". Think about this and the consequences of what it IS you vote on and how it will affect YOU one of these days where the actual "American people" live and conduct their lives, not the "American People" you imagine all the time.

                                          #53.3 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:23 PM EST
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