Conn. school massacre victims all shot multiple times, chief medical officer says

The small Connecticut town of Newtown is grieving in the aftermath of Friday's deadly school shootings. NBC's Anne Thompson reports.

Updated at 7:19 p.m. ET: The 20 children and six adults killed in the Newtown school massacre were all shot multiple times, many with a rifle, Connecticut’s chief medical examiner said Saturday.

The children – 12 girls and eight boys – were all 6 or 7 years old, Dr. H. Wayne Carver said at an afternoon news briefing.

“This is a very devastating set of injuries,” Carver said. “I believe everyone was hit more than once.”


He said all the victims at Sandy Hook Elementary died of gunshot wounds and all the deaths have been classified as homicides.


Carver said he personally performed seven autopsies and those children had between three and 11 wounds each. Two were shot at close range, the others at a distance.

Asked whether they suffered, he grimly replied, “Not for very long.”

He said he will perform an autopsy Sunday on the suspected gunman, Adam Lanza, 20, who is believed to have killed himself. He will also do an autopsy on Lanza’s mother, Nancy Lanza, 52, who was found dead in her Newtown home.

President Barack Obama will travel to Newtown on Sunday to meet with the victims' families and thank first responders, the White House announced Saturday night. The president will also speak at an interfaith vigil for families of the victims as well as families from Sandy Hook Elementary School. 

The motive for the mass killing, the second-deadliest school shooting in U.S. history, was unknown.

“We’ve been doing everything we need to do to peel back the onion, layer by layer, and get more information,” Connecticut State Police Lt. Paul Vance said earlier.

"Our investigators at the crime scene ... did produce some very good evidence in this investigation that our investigators will be able to use in, hopefully, painting the complete picture as to how - and more importantly why - this occurred.”

Connecticut Chief Medical Examiner H. Wayne Carver provides an update to the media after he and his team examined the victims' bodies at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown following Friday's shootings.

Four doctors and 10 technicians, plus a college student working her first day with the medical examiner’s office, toiled into Friday night to identify the victims.

They took photos of their faces and then showed the pictures to families of the 12 girls and eight boys, all first graders. “It’s easier on the families when you do this,” Carver said.

He said that he managed to maintain professional composure during the work, but it was a challenge.

“I’ve been at this for a third of a century and my sensibility may not be the average man’s, but this is probably the worst I’ve seen,” Carver said.

 At the end of the briefing, authorities handed out a list of the victims, who included the school principal and school psychologist.

Newtown’s first selectman, Patricia Llodra, pleaded for privacy for the grieving families, each assigned their own trooper.

“We are a strong and caring place. We will find a way to heal so that all of our residents young and old find peace,” Llodra said. Please know that we have suffered a terrible loss and we need your respect on this terrible journey.”

Although the bodies were removed from the suburban hilltop school, authorities said it would take at least two more days for investigators to finish combing over the crime scene.

Police have determined that the gunman was not buzzed into Sandy Hook, where he was once a student.

“He forced his way into the school,” Vance said. He did not provide specifics and said that broken windows at the school may have been shattered by police who responded to the emergency.

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The second-deadliest school shooting in U.S. history sent crying children spilling into the school parking lot as frightened parents waited for word on their loved ones.

In the confusing aftermath of the shooting, law-enforcement sources gave out conflicting information about what transpired.

Several media organizations, relying on information provided by law-enforcement sources, initially reported that the shooter had been identified as Lanza’s older brother. Officials later corrected that mistake.

There was also conflicting information about what type of weapons Lanza had.

At one point, law enforcement officials told NBC News that Lanza had four handguns while he stalked the halls of Sandy Hook, but that could not be confirmed. It appears he carried at least two 9mm handguns, in addition to the rifle, which was the primary weapon.

Officials also told NBC News that Lanza unsuccessfully tried to buy a rifle at a Dick’s Sporting Goods store in Danbury three days before the slaughter, but later said they could not confirm the report, which was based on tips from members of the public.

Investigators and former classmates of Connecticut school shooter Adam Lanza say he was bright, but extremely shy and remote. NBC's Pete Williams reports.

Police provided little information about the shooter’s state of mind. Lanza’s brother told police the gunman had a history of mental problems, though a classmate from Newtown High School recalled him as a generally happy person.

“We would hang out, and he was a good kid,” Joshua Milas, who had not seen Lanza in a few years, told The Associated Press. “He was probably one of the smartest kids I know. He was probably a genius.”

Newtown Police Lt. George Sinko said the entire town of 27,000 – a New England bedroom community some 60 miles from New York City and known for its good schools – was reeling.

“We never thought this would happen here,” Sinko said. “Our hearts are broken for the families of these victims.”

Of the many questions surrounding the tragedy, none was more poignant than those posed by the parents of the dead children, who shared their worst fears about their children’s final moments with clergy consoling them.

“They were wondering whether the children knew what was happening to them, whether they were afraid,” said Monsignor Robert Weiss of St. Rose of Lima Church, who met with the families.

The Newtown school superintendent, Janet Robinson, said the body count would have been even higher if not for staff who rushed to protect their young charges. 

“A lot of children are alive today because of actions the teachers took,” she said.

Below is the list of the victims' names released by the chief medical examiner's office.

Children:

  • Charlotte Bacon, 6
  • Daniel Barden, 7
  • Olivia Engel, 6
  • Josephine Gay, 7
  • Ana M. Marquez-Greene, 6
  • Dylan Hockley, 6
  • Madeleine F. Hsu, 6
  • Catherine V. Hubbard, 6
  • Chase Kowalski, 7
  • Jesse Lewis, 6
  • James Mattioli, 6
  • Grace McDonnell, 7
  • Emilie Parker, 6
  • Jack Pinto, 6
  • Noah Pozner, 6
  • Caroline Previdi, 6
  • Jessica Rekos, 6
  • Aviele Richman, 6
  • Benjamin Wheeler, 6
  • Allison N. Wyatt, 6

 Adults:

  • Dawn Hochsprung, 47
  • Rachel Davino, 29
  • Anne Marie Murphy, 52
  • Lauren Rousseau, 30
  • Mary Sherlach, 56
  • Victoria Soto, 27

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David Haas, since you seem to like guns so much why don't you go clean yours while it's loaded, being a rwnj you should have no problem doing us all a favor and be sure to look down the barrel while cleaning.

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Reply#56 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:49 PM EST

first of all prayers to all the one's involved .second of all ,all you morons that blame this mans insanity on the NRA are just as crazy as he is. I dont think the monster was crazy ,i think it was something he had planned for awhile.

    Reply#57 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:49 PM EST

    LisaRobinson....yes canadians have guns.....yes there crazy about hunting just like americans and target practice and all the rest....but....its hard to explain.......but ill try....its the american mind set......i think americans have a little more of a violent streak in them somehow.....the culture is very diffrent but hard too explain unless u have lived in both countries.....I have....its just different.

      Reply#58 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:49 PM EST

      This is a vary good explanation of the difference between Canadians and Americans on this subject. They interdict violent and bullying behavior early in school, they have an anti violence mentality in general and they teach ethics/religion in elementary school. My Canadian born child got far more ethics instruction just in her first 3 years of school then my American born children did through all their schooling.

      I think this accounts for much of the difference, but there is so much more.

        #58.1 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:17 PM EST

        I don't know if it's about schooling, QE, as much as it is about the culture in general. We Americans, I believe, are the drama queens of the world; we don't like solving problems quietly nearly as much as we like explosive emotional scenes. Unless people are pitching fits, we think they are cold blooded. Witness some of the reactions to this ME; some are complaining that he seemed callous in his presser. They were actually disappointed--nay, outraged--that he wasn't crying his eyes out and tearing what was left of his hair. Would that have helped him do his job? No, but it would have satisfied the peculiarly American need for people to be dramatic...

          #58.2 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:28 PM EST

          I am aware of our great need for drama, I am American, but I have to wonder if we learned ethics and understanding in American schools and interdicted more violent behavior in our young if we might not have a softer society..

            #58.3 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:35 PM EST

            My point being that the need for drama reinforces the tendency to violent behavior, QE. After all, nothing is more dramatic than a shootout...

              #58.4 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:52 PM EST
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              Well, if we don't have the will to address the gun issue in a sensible way, I suggest we no longer broadcast 24/7 the gun massacre of the month. It's repetitive, tedious, depressing and a waste of time.

                Reply#59 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:49 PM EST

                Goddamn media...the public does NOT need to know the names of the deceased. Show a little f'ing respect to the families!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                  Reply#60 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:51 PM EST

                  The reason the media is successful is because you watch if you want to see it don't watch.

                    #60.1 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:02 PM EST
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                    The sad irony is that the mother probably bought the guns thinking , as most gun owners do, that they would protect her from being attacked. Instead the guns wound up becoming the instruments of her own execution..not only of her...but of the 20 innocent children she was trying to teach in school.
                    I'm sure , if she had survived, she would regret having bought those guns in the first place.

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                    Reply#61 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:51 PM EST

                    Attacked! I can see a small revolver by the nightstand for a woman living alone but it sounds like this woman had an arsenal. What kind of attack was she expecting? The Normandy invasion? (Obviously, not from her son.)

                      #61.1 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:12 PM EST
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                      The families should be left alone until they feel they are ready to speak about the loss of their loved one. Too much too soon and reporters should realize that fact. My sincerest condolences and best wishes to those who are affected by this senseless act of violence. My heart goes out to those affected.

                        Reply#63 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:53 PM EST

                        The problem with the pro-gun faction is that they accuse others of trying to take away their guns and ignoring the 2nd amendment. I haven't heard anyone in public life calling for taking away all guns, just assault weapons which should only be needed by the military and law enforcement. No one is calling for banning hunting rifles or hand guns that do not hold large clips of ammunition. The 2nd amendment's reference to bearing arms is in the context of having a militia which was needed in the early history of our nation since we did not have a formal "army" or military. I have no problem with hunters having rifles or homeowners having hand guns for protection but, sorry, I don't think that any of you should own an assault weapon.

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                        Reply#64 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:53 PM EST
                        • CatTrax well said I completely agree w/you,as a former gun owner,yes I liked my Freedom to have one. As i got older & must trust in my Saviour to protect me I then I no longer felt the need to keep one. But as american we d have that right. But I don't see the need to have assult wepons. The crimanal will always find a way to get ahold of these weapons that's a fact. Our problem as a Nation is our value system & the loss of the family uniit & a socitity that exposes our children to constant sex & violence. They are desenceitized. People blame God for letting this happen,well God is not allowed in the schools anymore even in silence. The only one's that seem to have freedom of religon aqnymore are the Muslims, look at thier socitity. And thier laws going on in Our Country. Something we all need to think about! Every child should have a time in school to worship in each of thier own beliefs. And Pledge Allegince,Our Congress & senate does,Don't give me this seperation of church & state,This country was founded on freedom of religon and Christiany. We have abondoned that & look where we are now. And the day after 20 precious children were massacerd and 6 teacher's & aids. Now everyone is praying and morning,WAKE UP AMERICANS!!!
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                        #64.1 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:10 PM EST
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                        For you uneducated folk's out there, to blame the NRA for this shows your lack of intelligence.....

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                        Reply#66 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:54 PM EST

                        Tell that to the parents of those children. God forbid that someone in your family finds themselves in the cross hairs of someone you seem to believe is intelligent! I wonder how you'd feel then. You cry about second amendment rights while hundreds a year are losing their first amendment rights.

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                        #66.1 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:15 PM EST

                        Not to mention their 14th amendment right to life. Your 2end dose not override my 14th.. Remember that with every dollar membership you pay to the NRA.

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                        #66.2 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:20 PM EST

                        @ QE

                        You do realize that the NRA only has a little over 4 million members. That's out of an estimated 85-100 million gun owners in this country with an estimated 270-300 million firearms.

                        While it isn't any consolation to the family & friends of anyone murdered by firearms the number of people murdered by guns every year is a fraction of 1%....

                        FBI Uniform Crime Report for 2011 shows 8,583 murders committed by firearms in this country. That is out of a population of 315+ million.

                          #66.3 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 7:08 PM EST
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                          no photos of this horrific crime scene should ever be released or leaked!!!!

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                          Reply#67 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:54 PM EST

                          Why? So gun owners can not see what guns really do to people? So a country can not see how their loved ones could end up if we do not do something about this?

                          On the contrary, pictures need to be widely shown so we all can see what happens when guns are used on people. No more hiding behind the 2end when you never see the consequence.

                            #67.1 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:23 PM EST
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                            Why is it that the 'gun nuts', (yes, to use the analogy in question, you've got to be nuts), always harken back to the argument of. "If, he would have used a car, would you want to outlaw cars?".

                            My God, any sane person can differentiate between something that serves many, many other 'good' purposes such as cars (getting to and from work, driving a sick person to the doctor, etc.....) from a handgun or a semi-automatic weapon. (Please note that I am not citing shotguns or single-shot rifles)

                            Exhibit some intelligence if you're going to try and equate handguns and semi-auto weapons with another object of daily life. (Hey, maybe we should have outlawed airplanes after 9-11 !!)

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                            Reply#68 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:55 PM EST

                            First, Canadian, you've had yours too, it's not limited to the U.S., second Informed, firearms are not the only methods used for mass murders. One thing is consistent though - mentally ill people. It's also not new - been going on for years and years. 1927 Michigan - school blown up - 44 killed - by an administrator. McVeigh - 168 - fertilizer bombs - Japan - sarin gas - 13 - It is difficult to predict the next mental breakdown - it's like a lightning strike - Chiasson - Canada - 40 - It does no good to target a device, chemical or method, if they are determined, they will find or develop a way to do this. Concentrate instead on identifying and interdicting the perpetrators before the event happens. How many times have you heard the phrase "we knew they had a problem, but we can't do anything until they do something." Time to change that concept.

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                            Reply#69 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:56 PM EST

                            We will talk about bombs and chemicals as soon as they become as efficient, as safe to use for the purp and as ubiquitous as guns. We will also talk about those when attacks using those methods exceed those by guns.

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                            #69.1 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:26 PM EST
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                            Congratulations you found the courage to release the names. I hope that it makes you feel good about yourselves. Just remember every time these families are seeing their children's name in the press you've just shot another bullet into them. Remember a free press needs to be tempered with a little compassion and intelligence. You have just gone out and proved that you have neither.

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                            Reply#70 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:56 PM EST

                            My condolences to the families, i couldn't imagine losing my babies as you have.... Your all in my thought's and prayers.....

                              Reply#71 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:56 PM EST

                              Allow me to quote Marilyn Manson from a similar subject, that of the Columbine shooting...

                              It is sad to think that the first few people on earth needed no books, movies, games or music to inspire cold-blooded murder. The day that Cain bashed his brother Abel's brains in, the only motivation he needed was his own human disposition to violence. Whether you interpret the Bible as literature or as the final word of whatever God may be, Christianity has given us an image of death and sexuality that we have based our culture around. A half-naked dead man hangs in most homes and around our necks, and we have just taken that for granted all our lives. Is it a symbol of hope or hopelessness? The world's most famous murder-suicide was also the birth of the death icon -- the blueprint for celebrity. Unfortunately, for all of their inspiring morality, nowhere in the Gospels is intelligence praised as a virtue.
                              A lot of people forget or never realize that I started my band as a criticism of these very issues of despair and hypocrisy. The name Marilyn Manson has never celebrated the sad fact that America puts killers on the cover of Time magazine, giving them as much notoriety as our favorite movie stars. From Jesse James to Charles Manson, the media, since their inception, have turned criminals into folk heroes. They just created two new ones when they plastered those dip@!$%#s Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris' pictures on the front of every newspaper. Don't be surprised if every kid who gets pushed around has two new idols.
                              We applaud the creation of a bomb whose sole purpose is to destroy all of mankind, and we grow up watching our president's brains splattered all over Texas. Times have not become more violent. They have just become more televised. Does anyone think the Civil War was the least bit civil? If television had existed, you could be sure they would have been there to cover it, or maybe even participate in it, like their violent car chase of Princess Di. Disgusting vultures looking for corpses, exploiting, @!$%#ing, filming and serving it up for our hungry appetites in a gluttonous display of endless human stupidity.
                              When it comes down to who's to blame for the high school murders in Littleton, Colorado, throw a rock and you'll hit someone who's guilty. We're the people who sit back and tolerate children owning guns, and we're the ones who tune in and watch the up-to-the-minute details of what they do with them. I think it's terrible when anyone dies, especially if it is someone you know and love. But what is more offensive is that when these tragedies happen, most people don't really care any more than they would about the season finale of Friends or The Real World. I was dumbfounded as I watched the media snake right in, not missing a teardrop, interviewing the parents of dead children, televising the funerals. Then came the witch hunt.
                              Man's greatest fear is chaos. It was unthinkable that these kids did not have a simple black-and-white reason for their actions. And so a scapegoat was needed. I remember hearing the initial reports from Littleton, that Harris and Klebold were wearing makeup and were dressed like Marilyn Manson, whom they obviously must worship, since they were dressed in black. Of course, speculation snowballed into making me the poster boy for everything that is bad in the world. These two idiots weren't wearing makeup, and they weren't dressed like me or like goths. Since Middle America has not heard of the music they did listen to (KMFDM and Rammstein, among others), the media picked something they thought was similar.
                              Responsible journalists have reported with less publicity that Harris and Klebold were not Marilyn Manson fans -- that they even disliked my music. Even if they were fans, that gives them no excuse, nor does it mean that music is to blame. Did we look for James Huberty's inspiration when he gunned down people at McDonald's? What did Timothy McVeigh like to watch? What about David Koresh, Jim Jones? Do you think entertainment inspired Kip Kinkel, or should we blame the fact that his father bought him the guns he used in the Springfield, Oregon, murders? What inspires Bill Clinton to blow people up in Kosovo? Was it something that Monica Lewinsky said to him? Isn't killing just killing, regardless if it's in Vietnam or Jonesboro, Arkansas? Why do we justify one, just because it seems to be for the right reasons? Should there ever be a right reason? If a kid is old enough to drive a car or buy a gun, isn't he old enough to be held personally responsible for what he does with his car or gun? Or if he's a teenager, should someone else be blamed because he isn't as enlightened as an eighteen-year-old?
                              America loves to find an icon to hang its guilt on. But, admittedly, I have assumed the role of Antichrist; I am the Nineties voice of individuality, and people tend to associate anyone who looks and behaves differently with illegal or immoral activity. Deep down, most adults hate people who go against the grain. It's comical that people are naive enough to have forgotten Elvis, Jim Morrison and Ozzy so quickly. All of them were subjected to the same age-old arguments, scrutiny and prejudice. I wrote a song called "Lunchbox," and some journalists have interpreted it as a song about guns. Ironically, the song is about being picked on and fighting back with my Kiss lunch box, which I used as a weapon on the playground. In 1979, metal lunch boxes were banned because they were considered dangerous weapons in the hands of delinquents. I also wrote a song called "Get Your Gunn." The title is spelled with two n's because the song was a reaction to the murder of Dr. David Gunn, who was killed in Florida by pro-life activists while I was living there. That was the ultimate hypocrisy I witnessed growing up: that these people killed someone in the name of being "pro-life."
                              The somewhat positive messages of these songs are usually the ones that sensationalists misinterpret as promoting the very things I am decrying. Right now, everyone is thinking of how they can prevent things like Littleton. How do you prevent AIDS, world war, depression, car crashes? We live in a free country, but with that freedom there is a burden of personal responsibility. Rather than teaching a child what is moral and immoral, right and wrong, we first and foremost can establish what the laws that govern us are. You can always escape hell by not believing in it, but you cannot escape death and you cannot escape prison.
                              It is no wonder that kids are growing up more cynical; they have a lot of information in front of them. They can see that they are living in a world that's made of bull@!$%#. In the past, there was always the idea that you could turn and run and start something better. But now America has become one big mall, and because of the Internet and all of the technology we have, there's nowhere to run. People are the same everywhere. Sometimes music, movies and books are the only things that let us feel like someone else feels like we do. I've always tried to let people know it's OK, or better, if you don't fit into the program. Use your imagination -- if some geek from Ohio can become something, why can't anyone else with the willpower and creativity? I chose not to jump into the media frenzy and defend myself, though I was begged to be on every single TV show in existence. I didn't want to contribute to these fame-seeking journalists and opportunists looking to fill their churches or to get elected because of their self-righteous finger-pointing. They want to blame entertainment? Isn't religion the first real entertainment? People dress up in costumes, sing songs and dedicate themselves in eternal fandom. Everyone will agree that nothing was more entertaining than Clinton shooting off his prick and then his bombs in true political form. And the news -- that's obvious. So is entertainment to blame? I'd like media commentators to ask themselves, because their coverage of the event was some of the most gruesome entertainment any of us have seen.
                              I think that the National Rifle Association is far too powerful to take on, so most people choose Doom, The Basketball Diaries or yours truly. This kind of controversy does not help me sell records or tickets, and I wouldn't want it to. I'm a controversial artist, one who dares to have an opinion and bothers to create music and videos that challenge people's ideas in a world that is watered-down and hollow. In my work I examine the America we live in, and I've always tried to show people that the devil we blame our atrocities on is really just each one of us. So don't expect the end of the world to come one day out of the blue -- it's been happening every day for a long time.
                              MARILYN MANSON (May 28, 1999)

                              All so eerily relevant again everytime this happens. Have none of you seen the forensic suggestions that the media should NOT be doing these very things? It will inspire more mentally sick people to take this same path. And you people putting blame on the second amendment, gun owners, and even using the bible/religion to say why such a thing happens are shameful. It's really pathetic that media outlets would release the names of such young victims like this publically. This is nothing we need to know, aside from possibly the immediate community.

                              Why is our world turning into such a disgusting place? Because everyone wants to sit on their high horse pointing their finger without having the slightest clue as to what would actually be useful to prevent these attrocities. No, prayer isn't going to help. No, banning guns will not work.

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                              Reply#72 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:56 PM EST
                              We cannot endure these senseless and wanton shootings ANYMORE. Like all shootings, a piece of me dies when I hear about them. However, this one is too much, for they were just BABIES; just 5 to 10 years of age!!!!

                              Where do we go from here? What do parents do from here on out; should we start dressing our children in body armor before they walk out the door? What will our political leaders do? How will gun lobbyist respond to this tragedy? Should we start pushing the need for better mental health care?

                              I don't have any answers; just questions.

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                              Reply#73 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:56 PM EST

                              Better health care is a damn good start.

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                              #73.1 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:11 PM EST
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                              I cannot imagine what traumatic memories the doctors and medical technicians who had to carry out the awful task of doing the autopsies on those poor children will have to deal with for the rest of their lives. It's bad enough to have to perform them on an adult but on small children. Heartbreaking.

                                Reply#74 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:57 PM EST

                                Heavenly Father, I pray along with millios around the world for this community, all families that directly effected by this tragedy. It is not okay to take live if the defenseless and others that are take care of them. Please wrap your arms around this community.

                                Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with you. Blessed are thou among women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb Jesus. Holy Mary, mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the time of our death. Amen

                                  Reply#75 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:57 PM EST

                                  Maybe gawd should have wrapped his arms around this community before it happened.

                                  For crying out loud, what a vacuous post.

                                    #75.1 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:06 PM EST
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                                    Why wasn't all these fire arms locked up like they are supposed to be? I don't care how old you are, if I were to take out a gun, if I owned a gun, I would have to be there to supervise. How did this kid get access?

                                      Reply#76 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:58 PM EST

                                      I have to agree with David, these names should not have been released.....

                                        Reply#77 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:58 PM EST

                                        I work in an elementary school and was with a kindergarten class when we were whispered this news. We have intruder drills. We talk about what we'd do in this situation. Our building has locked doors as well. We are there to love those kids...to keep them safe during the day. This proves that safety is just an illusion. You can't stop "insane". I believe that everyone has the right to a gun if they choose to have one in their home, but NO ONE should e able to have weapons that can fire so many rounds so quickly, unless it's the police. I can only hope that everyone who worked at the school, all the children and parents who are left and those poor babies and staff members that were gunned down can find some peace....someday.

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                                        Reply#78 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:59 PM EST

                                        There are a lot of comments about the NRA being at fault, but you are far from understanding what really happened here. You need to remember the quote "Guns don't kill people, people kill people". The guns did not walk into the school and open fire on their own, a crazed man committed premeditated murder on these innocent people. But this is no time to even talk about this issue. This is the time to pray for the innocent lives that were lost, and the friends, family, community, and nation that is grieving the losses of these lives. Do you even understand what is going on in the nation today? Most of the killings that happen, are caused by what most of you are doing on this website, arguing, pointing fingers, hating on others. Do you understand what vengeance is?, it is committed because someone was hated on, belittled, made fun of, put on the back burner by others, instead of helped, talked to, listened to by someone when they needed to talk. I am upset and hurt by what transpired in Connecticut too, because I too have small children, one in which is about to turn 7 years, and is in 1st grade, but let's not turn to hatred and ill-will, because that is probably what caused this man to turn to vengeance.

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                                        Reply#79 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:01 PM EST

                                        OMG they were just little babies! RIP little angels, you left behind a cruel world. If we can just focus on our own weapons of mass destruction first before we go running out into the world...GOD help us all.

                                          Reply#80 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:02 PM EST

                                          I would blame violent video games, violent movies and the internet, before I would blame gun owner ship. If you take a way gun owner ship, then you need to take a way the internet at the very same time. People will just start making home made weapons, because when there is a will, there is a way. If someone wants to commit murder they will do it with what ever means; this kid could of bombed his mom’s car into the school and done just as much murder.

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                                          Reply#81 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:02 PM EST

                                          As has been stated a million times, no one is talking about taking away all guns! What we're talking about is reasonableness. We do not need civilians in this society able to access the kinds of weapons he used, with the kind of magazines that hold enough ammunitition to cause this amount of carnage in hardly any time at all! Surely you understand that other types of weaponry such as knives don't cause this type of carnage as it's much easier to stop someone with a knife, (China example, for instance), a bomb is not something most people could access or create, a car into a building isn't likely to do that level of carnage either. Obviously almost anything can be used and it's not to say murder would stop. But it's quite probable that the number of victims would greatly be reduced. Also, most if not all, of the guns used in the horrible incidents we've seen happening in the last several years were purchased legally. These weren't thugs or gang members, as some like to use as an example of the criminals who still will find a way to get them. Most were purchased by people who didn't have a prior criminal history that would stop them, so obviously the current regulations aren't sufficient.

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                                          #81.1 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:42 PM EST
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                                          I cannot even imaginie the pain and suffering in those families, households, community. Right before Christmas. May God send comfort and guidance. What thoughts these random actors cannot control is beyond comprehension. No matter what is not happening on your terms, is no call to pick up arms and act this kind of vicious event out!

                                            Reply#82 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:03 PM EST
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