The Officer who pulled the women over should be charged with First Degree Sexual Assault then he should be thrown in a Super Max. The Head of the Texas Rangers should be jailed for Incompetence and Insubornation. Texas Governor Perry should resign because he is the head of all Texas Departments.

This is an outrage!!! I hope the women win trillions from the state of Texas, and I hope the officer who did this goes to jail and is found guilty of Sexual Assault!!!

And thats my opinion

The few, the proud, the morally and intellectually bankrupt.

Only in Texas is pot considered worse than a felony. Open your eyes taxpayers and see how your Keystone Cops are keeping the state safe.

The way I see it, the female officer told the male officer that if he pulls over any good looking females to do whatever he can to have her cavity search them because she's gay. She probably payed him $20.00 a pop...

I just cannot see it any other way because there was "zero" grounds to stand on for them to cavity search these ladies. After other people who have been violated see this one, they'll come forward.

As the woman mentions, you probably feel like there is nothing you can do at the time because they're the "LAW" and what are you going to do?!

Piss them off enough and suddenly they'll "magically" pull a bag of weed out from under the back seat and you're busted. Bottom line is your Fk'd man.

Az,

How long you been playin'? 39 yrs off and on over here. All Rock man!

Originals? Covers?

Have a good one....

It will be a travesty if these officers are not disciplined and these ladies are not compensated substantially. It is obvious the officers overstepped the bounds of their authority. Getting a whiff of marijuana is no reason for publicly humiliating the women. There has to be something else behind this, or these two officers are completely deluded by their own self-importance.

I don't know about the body searches, the courts will have to make those determinations, but I'm damed happy to see they were pulled over for littering. People seem to think that the roads are their garbage dumps for someone else to clean up. If they suffer from public humiliation it should be because they were too damned lazy to put their car trash in a garbage bag and put it into a trash receptacle. I can't see where their butts could be any more publicly engrossing than the innumerable butts available on the internet, beaches, and adult entertainment emporiums, but thats for the court to determine. As for more public liter and trash however, we need to see far less of that. If you're too lazy to clean your car out into a garbage bag, what other forms of social insensitivity do you suffer from.

@Steve Herbert

It was a cigarette butt, not a garbage bag full of trash. Even if that is wrong, it should never result in the actions taken.

If a cavity search was needed (and in this case I don't think it was) it should have been done in a police station. NOT on the side of the road..........IDIOTS !!!

You are hearing one side of this issue. If the officer(s) have a reasonable belief that there is something illegal going on, then they have the right to take the investigation further. You can see by the transcript that the officer is questioning them about the smell of weed and he is making it clear that this stop has gone from a misdeamenor littering stop to something more. That being said, after an initial pat down, the two women should have been taken to the station and further searched if that was deemed necessary. Doing it in public is BS.

The other thing escaping these two women is this, if they hadnt littered to begin with, they wouldnt have been pulled over to start this whole chain of worthless events. There will be no winners in this one. Not by a long shot.

My condolences to these women for what they went through. From personal experience, I know body cavity searches are one of the most degrading, humiliating experiences a human being can go through, and it can be physically painful or leave you bleeding if you are at all tense or nervous.

I can't imagine why, with all the technology available today, can't they come up with some sort of x-ray wand so you can be searched without someone having to physically touch you. the constitution prohibits against unreasonable search and seizure and this was definitely unreasonable. Although this is small consolation, at least these women had a female officer do it--it's much much more psychologically humiliating and physically traumatic when a male does it--and having someone else watch is atrocity.

These women should not only seek huge financial remedies but also nothing less than the firing of these two 'cops' a suspension of the shift commander is warranted also for covering it up and doing nothing.

I'm sure the good officers really enjoyed the show!

Cigarette butts are biodegradable and therefore not littering, fire hazard yes, but littering no. Just a couple of pervert cops that like to dominate people. Fire them and they can never work with another law enforcement agency ever. Then make sure that they can never have firearms again. Their actions show that they can't be trusted to do the right thing. They have already used the power of the gun to abuse these ladies. Sorry for what happened top you, Sue the @!$%# out of them. Good luck, I wish I could be on that jury.

Great state of texas huh

This makes me sick. Someone should be checking amateur porn sites for the video, or at the least, get a search warrant for both officer's homes to see if they have a collection of such. Can't be the first time. Maybe this lawsuit will bring forth other women.

How much weed did the offices think was jammed up their butts and vajayjays anyway? I mean come on. This is sooooo over the top. Who would jam pot up their butt anyway? NO ONE. You get pulled over you chuck it out the window or what not, not shove it up your privates.

This comes from the state that wants to secede from the nation...DOH!

There was something illegal going on........the cops actions........!

I kept looking for Burt Reynolds to drive by in a Firebird, thinking this was a video from Smokey and the Bandit 2012!

New law in Texastan. Vaginal ultra sounds for throwing out cigarette butts out a car window (remember they cut the budget of firefighters just before the drought fires) and the "smell of pot". I guess they laid off the drug dogs and hired some female officers to sniff and finger butts and couters. The dogs could sniff but not finger. God told Perry to "git-r done".

now THIS is a really good reason for texas to secede from the union!

maridanne, sadistic cops manhandling and raping women happens all around the country, not just in Texas. I recall when the Chicago police dept. was finally brought to task and shamed, after it's long history of "arresting" and strip searching little elderly old ladies was brought to the attention of the press and public. A lot of these cops go into that line of work to lord power over the citizenry, esp. over the vulnerable, while on the tax payer dime and carrying big ol' gun to compensate for their little brains and/or dycks. Many are also ex-military and couldn't get a job anywhere else but maybe retail security at WalMart.

So zuksam , what do you think would happen if these ladies had a gun , it would just give these two "heroes " a reason to be even more aggressive . If the ladies shot the cops then they would be wrong also . Therefore the civilised course of action is to use the courts to ensure these two pigs are dealt with and it also sets a precedent so their whole agency is put on notice that this is unacceptable behaviour

zuksam: "This is why we should never give up our right to bear arms. Because unless you can defend your rights you have none."

Do you REALLY think these women could have "defended their rights" by pulling out a gun on these cops? SERIOUSLY? You'd have 2 dead women. End of story.

Why anyone with an I.Q. over room temperature would choose to live in Tex-ass is beyond me.

Max, zuk is talking about the erosion of the 2nd amendment being the start of the destruction of further rights. It the 2nd gets changed, none are gonna be safe.

So for those emotionally campaigning for gun bans, or even controls to not match possible oppression, here is a taste of what it would eventually look like if you get your way.

10 Rules for Dealing with Police

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4nQ_mFJV4I

5 Reasons You Should Never Agree to a Police Search (Even if you have nothing to hide)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AThANSHy-p4&feature=share&list=SP0E0110E22C4F2266

Rule #1 remember cops only look for things to get you in jail. why would you want to assist them to put you in jail? always say no to a search.

Rule #2 even if they search you anyway, and even if they find something, saying no consistently is the only thing that will protect you in court. your lawyer will argue that they had no probably cause, which many times they don't.

Rule #3 Saying no might prevent the search all together if they were just looking for easy targets. saying no shows them you know your rights.

Rule #4 Saying no wastes you time and if they break anything you're responsible for it.

Rule #5 How can you be certain they won't find anything?

It taks years for cigarette butts to biodegrade, so i would call it littering. Littering however does not call for cavity searches.

The core of most cigarette filters -- the part that looks like white cotton, is actually a form of plastic called cellulose acetate. By itself, cellulose acetate is very slow to degrade in our environment. Depending on the conditions of the area the cigarette butt is discarded in, it can take 18 months to 10 years for a cigarette filter to decompose.

jodeman (and anyone else who agrees with the police on this matter)-

i can only hope YOUR mother, sister, or wife is next on that texas 'lawman's' search list. what an idiot you both are.

I cannot believe you are harping about a friggin cig butt when the rights of a US citizen has been trashed. These sorry excuse for cops should have been charged with sexual asault and be sent to prison. All it takes is for one idiot/stupid cop to bring down hate on all of them. This is the very reason cops have a reason to reach for their weapon even with a simple traffic stop, they cause people to hate them. If and when they stop covering for the bad cops maybe they will regain the trust and respect from the public that they used to have.

@Jenny - They never agreed to the search. The police did it anyway.

@wryview

RULE NUMBER 2.

Texas citizens, get ready to hand a lot of your tax dollars over to these women. Of course they do not care because all thye have to do tell you that thye are going to lay off cops and fireman if you do not give them some more money, the sad part is that you will.

Zowwieee!!! I'm not going to Texas!

I hope these women get millions and also the two cops get fired. It's a shame I have to live in the hellhole they call Texas to be on their jury because when I was done Texas would be bankrupt.

That's TEXASS fer ya' !...?

i even broke it down into simple to follow steps and you still didn't get it.

What an interesting week....2 cases, Both in Texas; the first an officer who gave a motorist $100 to pay for his vehicle registration so he would be compliant with the law and now this. Guess it is safe to say that there are examples of good and bad in everything. Hopefully this lawsuit will resolve it and ensure it does not happen to anyone else.

Why anyone with an I.Q. over room temperature would choose to live in Tex-ass is beyond me.

I'm here only because Uncle Sam told my wife she had to come here, and believe me we can't wait for the day we can PCS and move to another state.

Shame, shame, shame on the Texas State Troopers. That should have NEVER happened.

You would think that a female State Trooper would know that your not supposed to go stink to pink. It's supposed to be pink to stink, so get it right next time.

I may be profiling but that female officer looks like she enjoys the company of women.......not that theres anything wrong with that. Also its pretty nasty that she used the same glove on the two women for the front and back checks. Also looked like she was really getting a handful down there.

I respect most police but there are some bad ones out there. Recently ran into a guy from high school who is now a cop. He was bragging on and on about how he loves pulling over punk kids and getting in their face and most of the time its because he is bored. Its idiots like this that give all police a bad name.

The cops told them they had the right to bare their arms...and bare a few other things...,

If the ladies shot the cops then they would be wrong also . Therefore the civilised course of action is to use the courts to ensure these two pigs are dealt with and it also sets a precedent so their whole agency is put on notice that this is unacceptable behaviour

The problem is, many in law enforcement are not being held accountable for their unacceptable behavior and victims are not finding relief in the court system.

Btw, they should do a drug test on both of those officers since the woman's pain medication mysteriously went missing after the search. Either one or the other is more than likely using or selling.

Would the body cavity search have happened if it were 2 fat chicks (no offense intended) or 2 dudes?

And just how do you determine the difference between the smell of cigarette smoke and the smell of marijuana smoke? Because I know i darned well can't! I don't know what pot smoke is supposed to smell like. A friend once came over and I asked if they had been smoking pot...they laughed and said "No, I smoke Marlboros!" But doing a cavity search on the side of the road, in full view of passing motorists? That's inhumane and unjust, for any reason. And I believe you aren't to search a car without reasonable cause, which doesn't seem justified here, as they were pulled over for littering. And then given "warnings"? Hmmm. That stinks about as badly as the car "supposedly" did.

oneman,

Probably not. The one chick looks like she works at one of the several gentlemens locations in Texas.

since they were not under arrest for a criminal violation(this was a traffic violation)any search without consent is illegal, period.

Ah Tejas - if I never see you or AZ again, it'll be too soon!

onemanonewomancrap

Who cares. That didn't happen.

Apparently the "community" isn't too concerned with the body cavity contents such as bottles full of urine, disposable diapers, and whatnot that is along our highways and byways, to be picked up by people who have the decency to volunteer to keep our outdoor community pleasant, and environmentally secure. It's not just cigarette butts, bottles, fast food wrappers, and an occasional empty lip gloss container. It's anything from poisons and dead pets to appliances. It's up to the courts to determine if littering is worth a traffic stop, and it's up to the taxpayers to give lazy people millions of dollars for doing so. Littering is littering. If you want to dump your ashtrays out for people to enjoy, you have a perfectly good living room floor to do it on and to invite them over to see.

People, you needs to know your rights. This search was completely unconstitutional. The officers should be fired or have to take an extensive civil rights college course.

A similar thing happened to me when I was 17, thank goodness I wasn't strip searched though. I was pulled over for having a tag light out. I had a few friends in my car at the time. The officer said he smelled alcohol and that was his reason for calling a K-9 cop and pulling me out of my car. At the time, I didnt know exactly what my rights are. He proceeded to search me and my car. There was no open container nor any other form of alcohol on my persons. I ended up getting arrested on vulgar assault on an officer and spent the night in jail.

I got myself a lawyer and went thru the same thing these ladies are doing. I didn't sue but more of a harrassment issue. The arresting officer was a joke. He was one of my baseball coaches in HS and his younger brother was in my high school, a cpl grades under me. The officer's brother would tell him things to help him make a name for himself. What a Loser!

Not only did I get my charges dropped, I also had a harassment charge put against the officer. He pulled my over for an inspection violation. He illegally held me at the scene waiting for a K-9 unit to arrive with no probable cause except for the smell of alcohol. The officer made threatening remarks about strip searching my there on the spot, which was a busy highway during the evening. Nothing was found on me nor in my car, no breathalyzer test nor field sobriety tests were conducted.

I find that a lot of cops tend to over step their bonds. You have a constitutional right from illegal search and seizure. Law enforcement officers require a search warrant to search your property (house, car, your persons- pockets or body). If you haven't committed an offense that requires your arrest, the officer has no probable cause for search. An officer may pat you down for weapons (for their safety- LOL!) but they cannot reach in your pockets for any reason, let alone a cavity search. Never consent to a search. Once you say yes, they can search you and your property. If you invite them into your home, that is considered a "Yes" to consent for search, so don't invite them in either unless it is necessary. If you are patted down and the officer asks whats in your pockets, as long as its not a weapon, you don't have to tell them.

Given this, there are officers out there that may just wreck your day. A lot of them don't really know what they can and can't do. Some think that they can do whatever and may give you a hard time. Stand your ground and don't give in, even if they threaten to arrest you. You may be able to ask for their supervisor to be present.

What happened to these poor ladies was absurd and horrific. They have a really good case here. I wish them the best. The best advice that I can give would be to stay out of trouble and don't do anything illegal. Good Luck on that!

The entire "I smell pot." or the ever equally popular "I smell alcohol." is the catch all phrase said very very loudly for the dash cam so the officer can usually fake probable cause. It's complete and total BS most of the times it is stated. They are simply establishing an excuse (lie), on audio and video record, to search your vehicle or your person.

One of the issues here is that even if these officers are 'disicplined' and or fired, it isn't enough. Even if the women get a settlement it isn't enough. They, the officers, need to be prosecuted, arrested, fined, and jailed. Only when we start holding both Police Officers and Prosecutors to the same laws, we 'common' people follow, will the situation ever correct itself.

Just when I thought Texas law enforcement responses to marijuana were over the moon... I find out they'll actually go all the way to Uranus...

It's much worse than I suspected.

One more reason to legalize marijuana. People that litter cigarette butts should be fined. Instead of collecting a littering fine the state will now pay a much deserved settlement.

If they are looking for the glove for evidence, I suggest they look under officer Helleson's pillow

I doubt they will get fired due to the Police Union. Unless the cops do something out right horrific nothing happens thanks to the Police Union.

Well to start of the cop had a cold and was all stuffed up. I have know these ladies for many years. These cops are crooked and if you U Tube that cop Ferrell, you will see that he has done this more than once and there is anoth video where he threw a man on the ground for no reason. I am so proud of them for standing up and telling everyone so no other female will ever have to go through this kind of abuse.

In Texas they believe that if your body cavities become searched against your will in the headlights on the side of the road, the female body has a way of making that not embarrassing unless they really wanted it bad...

Also, show me a "female" cop that fingers multiple same-sex cavities on the side of the road at night without changing gloves and I'll show you a Dike that protects Amsterdam from flooding...

Don't get me wrong, I think Gays and Lesbians are entitled to any job and every benefit for performing it... This ain't THAT!

If you haven't committed an offense that requires your arrest, the officer has no probable cause for search.

Tell that to the border checkpoints (located miles inside and on the soil of the U.S.) when they pull you over for "secondary search".

I've been pulled over to "secondary" with my blond, blue eyed grandchildren and had my car searched for no probable cause, then sent on my way. If they felt there was one, they sure didn't tell me. Where are our Constitutional rights for those searches?

I don't know about the body searches, the courts will have to make those determinations, but I'm damed happy to see they were pulled over for littering.People seem to think that the roads are their garbage dumps for someone else to clean up. If they suffer from public humiliation it should be because they were too damned lazy to put their car trash in a garbage bag and put it into a trash receptacle. I can't see where their butts could be any more publicly engrossing than the innumerable butts available on the internet, beaches, and adult entertainment emporiums, but thats for the court to determine. As for more public liter and trash however, we need to see far less of that. If you're too lazy to clean your car out into a garbage bag, what other forms of social insensitivity do you suffer from.

... given that the officer was so keen, even adamant about there being drugs in the car... I have to wonder if "Littering" was true in the first place.

Littering ... its right up there with "broken taillight" or "non-operating" license plate illumination. Those are known excuses which all police, Highway patrol or sheriffs deputies use when they are bored or just want to investigate a driver or search a car and have no real justification.

Welcome to the United Police States Of America were citizens rights are being taken away with every law passed. Fasten your seatbelts as this ride is just getting started.

Nice State Police in Texas eh?

Sexual battery, lewd behavior by State Police in Texas. It's obvious there is a red-neck mentality surrounding the male trooper.

The female trooper must be a sexual psychopath and idiot because she didn't change gloves after sexual assaulting one woman's vagina and anus and then another woman's vagina and anus with the same pair of gloves.

Stupidity, sexual assault and violation of the rights of American citizens because the troopers get their kicks that way. They deserve to be fired and charged with sexual assault.

I hope they sue the hell out of the Texas State Patrol. If they're going to hire ignorant troopers with questionable character and amoral desires, they need a wake-up call.

Screen your troopers and then.. TRAIN THEM SO THEY'RE DECENT HUMAN BEINGS! NOT SOCIOPATHS!

What is really scary is that this practice is probably wide spread in Texas...these "police officers" acted like this blatant invasion of privacy and illegal search is standard procedure, something they do on a regular basis, but people have been too embarrassed and mortified to come forward. Thankfully, these women were not too intimidated to come forward and expose this outrageous abuse of authority. Let's just hope that the Texas judicial system is not as corrupt as the state troopers, and these two are punished to the full extent of the law to send a message to the "good ol' boy" network that this won't be tolerated. Who knows how many people are languishing in Texas prisons for years due to illegal searches and antiquated, primitive drug laws that result in multi-year sentences for possessing a small amount of marijuana. This bigotry and the ancient sentencing laws so prevalent in Texas, and elsewhere in the South, must end.

What happens in tex-azz, stays in tex-azz........oh wait wrong state.

My hair stands up every time I see a cigarette butt or other rubbish flying out of car window, grubs they are, but to subject them to a body cavity search is a bit too much and unjustified. I recall last year, wildfires in Texas caused tremendous damage and lives were lost, properties destroyed and huge areas were affected by raging blazes.

A more appropriate way to “penalize” rubbish chuckers would be to get the state authorities to provide a $ cost of property damage caused by wildfires and work out penalty fines for the cigarette butt chucker’s in particular. No doubt they would think twice before throwing anything out of the car next time.

@Jodeman

You are an idiot. Any cop can say he smells pot just to justify this type of BS. They found nothing so It look pretty much like this one did in fact make it up and it really should take more than a "I smell it" to be able to do what these BAD cops did. And for him to claim he can tell someone smokes pot in that car everyday is total BS. They don't get smell training that is so detailed they can tell who when where and how much is , supposedly, being smoked in a car. This was a setup to feel up these women and these two need to at least be fired and charged with some sex crimes.

You trying to justify this BS makes me think you're a cop sticking up the the brotherhood.

Typical corrupt law enforcement. They do anything to get a look or a whiff of your car, then it's "I smell this or that" and here comes backup. This is what our unconstitutional forfeiture laws produce. It is nothing but a revenue stream to keep their corrupt practices afloat.

"how many tickets your write this month?"

"can't make 'em speed"

"try hiding"

@johngis

Your words "Unless the cops do something out right horrific nothing happens thanks to the Police Union."

You DON'T think this is something out right horrific???? You'd sing a different tune if this happened to your mom, sister or loved ones. I hear what you're saying about the police union but this IS out right horrific any way you slice it. I hope these two victims clean up money wise and these two a$$hole cops get fired, convicted and thrown in jail. Two pieces of State Trooper sh_t abusing their authority and citizens rights!!

Magnum,

Well Stated and without all the adolescent insults AND I agree 100%

Throwing cigarettes on the ground here is a BIG deal. Thousands and Thousands of acres destroyed, homes lost and lives lost as well. BUT. My brother is a cop and THIS ain't okay!!

Never say anything to a Policeman without an attorney present. If pulled over, provide them with your DL, registration and proof of insurance, period. If they ask you if you know why they pulled over say No. If they continue to ask questions state you want an attorney and that you do not consent to any searches. Period. Stand your ground firmly and politely. They may threaten you with arrest, but stand you ground politely and firmly. At this point answer all questions with I want an attorney and I do not consent to any search of me or my property. If they arrest you state I am not resisting arrest, I want an attorney and I do not consent to any serarches of me or my property. Then wait until you get an attorney.

Cigarette butts are biodegradable

No no no they aren't!!!!

...and therefore not littering

BS!!! Don't spread garbage lies so all you smokers think you're off the hook for littering.

Cigarette butts are made of cellulose acetate, basically plastic, which DOESN'T JUST BREAK DOWN - Google it if you don't believe me.

Get your smelly car an ashtray, AND QUIT LITTERING!!!

Aside from that, this stop was a farce - cavity searches because they "smelled" marijuana in the car???

Without marijuana on the devils list of illegal substances, how are these cops gone wild gonna be able to pin anything on anyone???

ljstauth

So, I find it humorous that liberals are saying that the power expressed by the officers was excessive, yet, that is the result of Government deciding the term excessive.

Welcome to the bright and shining example of Socialistic Ideals... and the liberal agenda.

.... yeah because Texas is such a liberal state. Are you high or just an opportunist?

Jerry-1927474

Texas citizens, get ready to hand a lot of your tax dollars over to these women. Of course they do not care because all they have to do tell you that they are going to lay off cops and fireman if you do not give them some more money, the sad part is that you will.

Would you like to personally pay the salaries of a bunch of sick perverts. Go right ahead. Otherwise I would rather my tax dollars go to these victims, genius!

Any of you that think littering requires a cavity search need to just proactively register yourselves as sex offenders cause you are all sickos!

BOTTOMLIME: the NWA was right - F*#k the police!!!!

this is why you should never, ever, vote republican. Freedom to bear arms, no freedom for women to own their own bodies. also, this is another reason for national legalization of marijuana, in to many jurisdictions it is used as a reason for to deprive a person oif his rights against un reasonalbe search and seizure.

Republicans, all for constitutional rights when they apply to the gun lobby, not so when it pertains to individual rights. Good luck to the women in their lawsuits.

Ya where is senile McInsane and his leg humping side kick lindsey Graham when you need them.

Besides the TOTALLY illegal cavity searchs, auto search and theft of the womans medication they did on these women did anyone notice that the female officer went into the rectum first and then into the vagina?? Do you no how much disease and infection that could potentially cause?? let alone doing it on BOTH women with the SAME pair of gloves? These two females could have suffered major disease from this. These 2 officers are obviously doing this to steal drugs and sell them (or take them...funny how the second officer was so close conveniently)and I wouldnt be surpised if they were posting the film on the internet too for $$. These 2 cops are a disqusting disgrace and I would sue them for endangering my life as well as the other charges they illegally did to these women. These 2 cops are clearly out of line..especailly the male who was trying to get these women to admit that they were carrying drugs...what a moron.....NEVER ADMIT anything...especially to a texas cop..they already have a cowboy attitude. "Get me a lawyer" is all they would hear from me..charge me or release me.

We live in a police state. They can surveil you with no probable cause, no suspicion. They have drones watching you. They are recording our phone calls. They already have us as the most imprisoned nation in the history of the world, both per capita and in total, despite having a much MUCH lower population than China, India, etc. Half of our jailed "criminals" are nonviolent. More gun murder (40%-70%) is caused DIRECTLY by the Drug War than any other cause (the Drug War is more correlated to gun murder rates than gun ownership, total guns in society, or gun laws, or lack thereof).

Land of the Free? Is that even RELATIVELY true anymore? What is more accurate is Land of the Imprisoned, and Land of the Sheep.

Another group of crooked police in the DFW metroplex. I am getting rather tired of hearing about shady actings of police in my neighborhood.

I'd act surprised, except that I'm not. Ever since they locked up a bunch of people for selling white powder that was later identified as sheet rock and almost every suspect claims they had no knowledge of it, this isn't a surprise.

I live in Texas. I love this state. But, honestly, these kinds of things happen everywhere. It's a country-wide problem, so please don't hate on all of us Texans, lol.

I went on a night ride with an officer one evening because I was interested in serving as a police officer. I asked him about marijuana and how they handle situations of illegal drugs. He told me that there could be a small amount, or paraphernalia and what they do at that point is write the offender a citation. That offender goes to court and pays a fine. the stuff is confescated of course and booked in as evidence. We actually pulled over a car that had a couple pipes and some marijuana. The officer did exactly as he told me they do. With this mentioned, I can say that these troopers definitely give other officers a bad reputation.

Now, in this incident, I know this highway as I have gone to the Casino in Oklahoma too. The troopers are usually on highway 161, 75-north, and 35-north. The state troopers will pull you over for anything. If you go to the casino, be on your best behavior and make sure all lights work on your car, etc.

Here's what's so wrong with this whole thing.....how in the world are two women going to hide weed in their cavities, in the time that a trooper pulls them over? And really, if this search were legal, the troopers should have taken the women into the station and have them cavity searched.....had they been under arrest!!! I have a brother-in-law, he has to do the cavity searches on inmates who have been caught with illegal drugs, or if they are known to be dangerous and repeat offenders. He works with the males, but he hates having to do that part of the job. Any officer, doing this in front of a camera, outside for anyone to see this, is doing this to get some type of perverted high!

I support our law enforcement all over this country, but this is highly uncalled for. Citizens deserve respect and we don't deserve to feel intimidated. It's like the lady said, what choice did she have? Because these troopers, as sick as they are to rape these women on cam, who's to say they wouldn't have tazed these women out of pleasure too?

@devels son.you made me chuckle but sad and true.after my departure from svc yrs ago i will always question autherity period.after 35 plus yrs in texas,its like song 2steps forward 3steps back.to all in earshot,never trust crap in/around dallas/ftworth metro.or,make sure you know someone from around area before hand.that places are original cultureshock and so is law as well.maybe not better elswhere but aint there either.u been told,hope best for the women victims.

first of all, a CAVITY search means examining the internal parts of the anus or vag. area. This search seems to be an underwear search which is not pleasant but hardly a cavity search. The cops stretched the law but i don't think they actually broke it. They did not need to go so far. This is another example of why we need to legalize marijuana.

zuksam's post might just be one of most moronic of the century.

Yeah, justavet2, definitely in the dfw metro area, there is some stupid stuff that goes on. I moved away from that and closer to Oklahoma. The police out here don't seem to be all that gung-ho about overstepping their authority.

The only thing negative I can think of regarding the ladies and their fault is the cigarette butt littering. We have way too many grass fires from people smoking and throwing out the butts. We were in drought season, as we are every summer, and these fires happen all the time. But who would think, littering would lead to a cavity search? SMH!

NWA sumed up this situation in a fitting song.

Creek Dog, I was thinking the same thing,lesbian cop which there a lot of them.

• Question!
  
• Who knows why marijuana was made illegal in the first place?

When Texas became a state, the white citizens were afraid that Spanish speaking Texans might be loyal to Mexico and the whites were looking for excuses to throw the Spanish spekers out of the country.

Local ranchers bribed lawmen and judges to make marijuana possess a crime so they could selectively dispossess the Spanish speaking Texans, most who were forced off their own land and driven into the desert to the south. Some of these dispossed families are trying to get back to their ancestral homes to this very day.

Thus, using pot as an excuse for bogus police activity and minority supression is a grand old tradition in Texas.

I pray to God that pot gets legalized in my lifetime.

• God did, after all, create it for us!

They must be getting some of those cops out of the insane house,they are getting worse each day.

I think I smell marijuana. I'll need to search your butt now.

I don't think that is the world I want. I hope they retrain all their cops. In order for that to happen they will have to pay out a lot of money. People hate lawsuits but without them our freedom is severely compromised.

I'm irritated by litterbugs as much as anyone but this went WAY over the line and they did internal exams, vaginal and anal, without changing gloves from woman # 1 to woman # 2 !!!

Aside from the obvious constitutional problems surrounding this search....have these idiot cops never heard of ecoli infections? Or if the first woman had AIDS could they have transmitted it to the second woman? This could become a medical horror show!

PublicSpeech: you know this article reads so surreal I think it must be all a hoax - probably a hack into the MSN servers by 'Anonymous'. Watch Anonymous, or some other hacker group claim it tomorrow or in a few days. These commenters here are probably all so stoned out of their head they won't even feel like idiots when we know that it was all a hoax.

Isn't the US group of Anonymous based in Texas?

Todd Grezel:

I live in Connecticut not far from where the horror of last Friday morning happened and I can assure that the comments here do not reach anywhere near what killing 20 babies and 6 teachers amounts to. You don't know what you are talking about so please don't drag Connecticut's tragedy into your comments.

What you are hearing from the comments is outrage at the treatment these women received at the hands of those who should be protecting our rights! No one has suggested any violence toward the officers only legal action!

As a pot smoker (currently not thanks to the pain medication document I had to sign) - I don't feel one bit sorry for gun owners who might lose the penis extension. How does it feel to not be allowed to have what you enjoy...lmfao! You won't defend our rights to smoke - so why should I defend your rights.

PS; stop using conservative fear tactics to get your way, pot smokers lost their right to smoke, and didn't lose any other rights.

And if she had refused or asked them to change their gloves they would have been handcuffed, put in the back of the cruiser and somehow mysteriously shot themselves in the head with a gun that the police didnt find during the search!

Phuqin PIGS !!!!!

Like I've said here on newsvine many ,many, many times... A cop can do whatever they want, whenever they want, to whomever they want, without fear of repercussions. These pigs wont get anything except a paid vacation while this is "investigated" then they will get a commendation!

Just ask any judge, a cop never ever lies. They have no "reason" to.

@Mykiddosmom

Yes the smell between weed and cigarettes is a completely different smell, so a non smoker (who has a generally much better sense of smell than a smoker) should easily be able to smell the scent of either on a person and be able to tell the difference.

Even tobacco can smell very different based on what type it is - as a Camel and a Marlboro have enough of a different smell to be able to tell them apart from each other, so in premise it's very possible that the cop could have smelled a bit from the boyfriend's use earlier in the day, but as many others have said this is just too easy a line to lay down (untruthfully) so that you can claim probable cause.

Cops need to have lie detectors permanently affixed to them while on duty, so that alongside the dash camera recording are his full biometrics - some would be able to fake it, but even those would be less likely to lie about a simple pull over. They'd lose the "sport" of being able to f with innocent citizens because they were bored, and that would be better for all. Some people did go into police because they wanted to be able to order people around, and they weren't management material so to speak - and sadly that ruins it for those who got into it to actually serve the community.

As to the female officer, she really did screw up that cavity search. As another poster mentioned - you MUST follow the order of pink then stink - not the other way around or you're putting fecal coliform and all sorts of other nasties right into her box. And when going from one woman to the other, she also needed to change gloves - what if the aunt had herpes and it was transmitted to the niece by the filthy glove that had just been in auntie's warm spots. Stupid cops...

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You are hearing one side of this issue. If the officer(s) have a reasonable belief that there is something illegal going on, then they have the right to take the investigation further.

The two cops were asked for their side of the story and refused to give it. That pretty much settles it. If they had a reasonable reason to do what they did, they'd talk, but they're not. We know why they did what they did. 'Nuf said about that. Now, here's what needs to be done. The police department must pay the victims of this sexual assualt a whole bunch of moola dollars since it has within its employ two people who are sexual assualters. Second, the two officers are fired. Three, the two officers are charged and arrested with sexual assualt. After they're found guilty (the female officer at least), they are sentenced to prison for sexual assualt. Four, they are sued for sexual assualt and everything they have is turned over to the victims. End of story.

And, again, let me reiterate, they were asked to give their "side of the story." They won't. We know why. 'Nuff said about that. Let them all now pay the price.

Wow, I cannot believe what happened here. These two women were physically violated "IN PUBLIC" because some NAZI police officer just THINK he smells something. While I know not all cops are this bad, this one, and the female officer should be not only fired, but put in prison and given those same cavity searches that they like to do so much. I would really like to know how many of those they have gotten away with. While I am sure that they may find drugs in some of the searches, what they are doing is totally violating the constitutional rights of their victims, as well as assaulting them sexually. Unless you are under arrest, a cop has no right to search your person, and then, and I do mean only then, may they do a body cavity search and it must be in a private location. To do this on the side of the road is a crime, committed by the people that we are supposed to trust to follow the law.

Unfortunately, I have heard many of these types of stories from many states like Texas that don't believe that people actually have rights. This is one of the main reasons that I have never, and probably never will go to that state. I would be more than happy to give it back to Mexico, as it is so full of their citizens illegally residing in this country anyways.

Maybe if they would spend as much of an effort catching the illegal immigrants as they do cavity searches on the side of the road, the rest of the country wouldn't be filled up with the illegals that seem to so easily pass through that POS state.

This is screwed up!!! Another reason to leave the second amendment alone.... the one right allowing us to keep all others.

Cops drunk with power.....this is why they also have the highest rate of domestic violence.

Anyone who touches a vagina without consent should be charged with rape. That includes that female ape trooper.

Oh, no no no! If I were these women, I would feel I had the right to gun these two officers down for sexual assault which this definitely was! I'm not talking as a crazy pro-gun person here, I'm talking as a US citizen with rights guaranteed by the Constitution. This search was a definite violation of the Constitution as well as sexual assault. How anyone, police or otherwise can feel they have to right to strip search/body cavity search someone in public, in the open and on the side of the road is totally beyond my comprehension. Police arrest people for indecent exposure for going off the side of the road into the trees where no one can see them to urinate, then her they are pretty much exposing these women on a busy highway on the side of the road? If they really suspected these two women were hiding something, then they should have taken them to the police station to conduct this sort of search. But, it seems as though that would have involved paperwork and I think that is exactly what these two officers wanted to avoid.

"The sooner Tex-ass secedes, the better for the rest of us..."

(BUMP)

Texas has been blessed with my permanent absence since 2001 ,

I wouldn't even return for the head of Rick Perry...

if he had one that contained anything .

I now wonder why the so called doctors in the 1969 draft physical only used the same one latex glove on one hand to do the finger wave of each one of the 50 guys in my group? Same for the next doctors who did the nut squeeze and cough thing. Guess the Govt was saving money? Funny thing happened on way to base. My 6 fellow troops and I were riding in a van going back to base after a church service. Got stopped by CHP who made us all get out of rented van. He crawled around in van and found what he said was a marijuana seed. Being such a 19 yrs old country bumpkin at that time I never had even seen pot or knew what a pot seed looked like. So this CHP calls for back-up and a local Sherrif deputy responded some 10 minutes later. It was about 10 pm in the evening. The CHP made us all line up and told us to drop our pants and drawers in front of the van facing the road. He was getting a good look when many sets of head lights came down the side road we were coming from the church on. The CHP started yelling "pull your pants up." We instead just stood there as a long line of the cars coming from church sevice passed by each one bathing us in theoir headlights and we are all standing there with our pants and GI issue underwear around our ankles. Some of the cars honked as they went by. The CHP was livid then the last two cars happened to be first the Sheriff's deputy the CHP called for back up and the last car was the church pastor. The Sheriff deputy was cracking up, but the CHP was berating us for not pulling up our pants and was threatening to take all of us to jail for indecent exposure. The church pastor asked what was going on. The Sheriff's deputy looked at the so-called pot seed and told the CHP it was not a pot seed.

After the Sheriff's deputy, CHP and pastor had a little conference the CHP jumped in his cruiser and tore out throwing dirt all over and took off. The Sheriff's deputy came back and told us to be on our way. The pastor invited us back to church services the next Sunday. I served as a fed LEO for 9 years and never did more than a weapons/contraband check frisk of males I had arrested. If a female was to be arrested I called a female officer in to do that. She used latex gloves and in most extreme ran her hand down the front of underwear, bra if the subject was wearing them. Searches were with clothes on. Bodily cavities searches were never done out side of holding facilities. Some cops love to humiliate civilians whenever they can. I was trained to only search someone that has been detained and handcuffed if the subject agreed to be searched. After they are arrested it is common procedure to search them prior to putting them in vehicle for transport. Even then I had found contraband stashed in my patrol rig but never a weapon. Wonder what would have happened if these Texas cops would have pulled over GDUBYA's wife and daughters and did the skin and soft tissue finger probe searches on them?

The Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution reads:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Just say NO!

Cha-ching - those ladies are guaranteed a pretrial settlement for an undisclosed amount!

"But in this instance they have completely failed the citizens of Texas,"

They completely failed the citizens of this country.

@ljstauth:

What are you talking about?? No government gave the troopers the authority to perform blatantly illegal searches, and liberals don't think littering and other minor crimes should be treated the same as capital murder. In this case, it was the citizens who came forward and exercised their authority to question the abuse by the government, in this case the police. Maybe the Government in Texas thinks it's ok to use excessive force and illegal searches when dealing with littering, but I assure you liberals don't think it's ok. As a matter of fact, righties would be far more likely to support this kind of abuse of power, especially when the abuse is directed at people who are not white. So to suggest that liberals are somehow ok with the government abusing it's citizens is mindless baloney, but I figured a few righties would come out of the woodwork to blame liberals for this incident.

the women had the right to call for a supervisor -----ladies --sue the hell out of texas. when you receive a huge award get the hell out of texas. really texas --WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE ?

LOL

@ Jodeman @ 1.10

You must be smoking a joint with that dumb comment.

This is proof positive some cops are nothing more than thugs with a badge and GUNS!

The Texas state fuzz running a road side peep show. Sue the hell out them gals. They need it anyway.

The way I see it:

1. It was inexcusable to do that to those woman. Enough said there.

2. Don't litter, or give cops any other reason to pull you over. Generally of a cop is looking to pull you over, they'll find a "reason" to do so if you give it to them. This goes for all things, not just this unfortunate incident. I'm not even talking about body searches, which I have never heard of being done right on the highway like that. I'm talking about anything a cop might suspect you of, from drunk driving to smuggling and more. If you do something minor like run a yellow light or litter (for example only), they can use that as an excuse to pull you over and check for other things they may be more concerned about but don't have evidence for like drunk driving or drug trafficking. AND IT IS PERFECTLY LEGAL FOR THEM TO DO THAT SO LONG AS THEY DON'T TAKE IT TOO FAR.

3. Let me just say that if you are going to smoke, please don't throw your cigarette butts all over the place. That is disgusting. Not all smokers do this, but far too many do. It isn't hard to just put them in a bag or something and throw them away later PROPERLY when you get the chance. I'm not saying don't smoke (although health wise I would advise against it) or anything. That is your right. But please don't litter,and especially not with cigarettes and that sort of thing.

4. It still doesn't give them the right to do that to them. What I said in # 2 and # 3 is true. But again, it still doesn't give them the right to do that. Again, I have never heard of full body searches right on the highway like that. This is just wrong on so many levels. I really wish people wouldn't throw cigarettes out the window like that, but it still doesn't warrant what happened to them. And as far as I said about number two being perfectly legal so long as they don't take it too far: THEY TOOK THIS WAAAAY TOO FAR.

check out flexyourrights.org to learn about your rights and how to exercise them when dealing with police!

Welcome to the fascist states of America...

At least they used a female trooper. too bad why dont y'all druggies go to some place like Colorado or washington the legalized it. In Texas we will not only stop you but do a strip search. God Bless the State of Texas

well that there is the reason...smell my finger is so big in TEXAS...

It is called REASONABLE SEARCH after the state trooper smelled Marijuana coming from the car and probably their snatch

Debi-#s: If you are not aware of it, this is for you and anyone else interested:

Homeland Security Checkpoint: Video Blog - Day 1

This internal suspicionless Homeland Security checkpoint took place on Southern Arizona's SR86 near Mile Post 146 on January 8, 2008.

The location is over 40 miles North of the Southern Border on a highway that never intersects the border. Additional information is available at: http://checkpointusa.org/blog/index.php/2008/01/09/p79

The guy that has pioneered exposing these has won his court battles against the various "entities" envolved...

As for what happened to these gals... That is why they are called PIGS...

THE LAW: Policemen so cherish their status as "Peacekeepers" and "protectors of the public" that they have occasionally been known to beat to death those CITIZENS or groups who question that status. -- Unknown

@ Magnum Serpentine, post 1.1

I totally agree and I'd go one step further, Sexual Predators for the rest of their lives. These two officers should be immediately removed from their jobs and put some where they can't hurt others, like JAIL!

@ Spiddas,

In that video in the link you left, the guy was a complete jacka**. One thing I would advise against doing is antagonizing a cop. Nothing happened in the video you left a link for except him being difficult. Generally, if you answer the questions straight and forward and they have no reason to stop you, they late you go. There is no reason to hassle like that. Occasionally they might suspect you of something in which case they go into vehicle checks. After that, if they still aren't satisfied (which is rare) they generally ask you to come to an area for questioning and such.

This incident that happened to these two woman had nothing to do with the video you linked us to. It was just a guy being a jerk to get his 3 minutes on YouTube. And the last thing you need to do is give a cop a reason to suspect you. I have some friends who are cops, including several who have worked or are working in an airport. I don't know how many stories I've heard of people who would have normally just been sent on their way, but weren't because they gave the cops (or other security agents) a hard time. This incident with these woman was inexcusable, but generally things like that don't happen. And when and if they do, you get a lawyer and sue. And again, it has nothing to do with your video.

Medical problem: A serious infection can result if feces from a person is put into a vagina, even a little. These can result in urinary tract infection or damage to the reproductive organs. If one of these women had been pregnant, it could have killed an unborn baby too.

The there is the medical problem of transmitting possible diseases from one woman to the other, because the gloves were not changed.

Psychological problem: Any body cavity search had better have an extremely good reason. I would only allow a doctor to do it as part of a health exam. Any force of a body cavity search of that area is sexual assault, and violence, and gross violation of their privacy. Exposing these women naked in public is also a gross violation of their privacy. Doing a body cavity search in pubic is like being raped in public: anybody could have taken a picture of them.

Legally: This should be a criminal action before it is a civil action. These police officers were also performing criminal acts while in their uniforms and on duty.

"well that there is the reason...smell my finger is so big in TEXAS..."

The Mexicans found that out in San Antonio...

after they annihilated them they walked away from the dunghole .

I have friends who live in Texas, because they own land. These are nice people, and they ignore the politics. I don't know if I would be able to do that. One is so brave that she posts Democratic signs before elections, but then again, she is a Marine and is capable of protecting her property; but she has been physically threatened. I just couldn't live that way.

Unreal. Everyone soooo willing to jump on the police. You make it sound like the police involved had no idea they had a dash cam running and that the footage, if they were doing something they knew was wrong, wouldn't come back to haunt them.

None of us know what really happened, but everyone is ready and willing to assume that the one side being told is the gospel truth because it gives you the chance to bash those that will be the first you call when you need help.

The entire posted dialogue reads like every episode of COPs:

Dobbs: I don't think there is any marijuana in that car.
Farrell: OK, when was the last time somebody smoked marijuana in that car?
Dobbs: I honestly don't know. It's my boyfriend's car. So, I just borrowed it.
Farrell: There's an odor of marijuana coming from the car and that's why I've got to talk to you further about it. Um, and the more upfront you are the better it's going to go for you. So, you're telling me there's no marijuana in that car?
Dobbs: To the best of my knowledge, no there is not.
Farrell: Is there anything hidden on your person?
Dobbs: On my person?
Farrell: On your person, in your shoes, in your underwear?

Typical evasive answers you always hear. "I don't think there is", "to the best of my knowledge", "it's someone else's car".

With those answers, none of you would have been suspicious and would have believed every word?

God of Fate: The comment was directed towards Debi in order to help her out. The point is, it's about knowing, and exercising your rights. And if it pisses off the cops and they violate those rights, take them to court and give them an education. And you CAN even do it without a lawyer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZDG4oOF9gc

Debi said:

Tell that to the border checkpoints (located miles inside and on the soil of the U.S.) when they pull you over for "secondary search".

@ arguesforsport,

Yes, they had the right to question them. But no, they did not have the right to do a full body search right on the highway like that. I understand that in many cases people are way too quick to pull the trigger on the police. This is not one of those cases. They went way too far.

What I find most horrifying is the fact the officer did not change gloves after each

cavity, then to use them on the second person as well. This is unheard of...

I hope these women obtained good lawyers.. This is beyond anything I have heard in

a while.

@ Spiddas,

There's a difference between exercising your rights and being a jacka**. The cop who was in your video that you linked to was doing nothing that was breaking that guy's rights. Again, it also had nothing to do with the rights that actually were violated in this instance with these two woman. She (cop in your video) was just asking him (jacka** in your video) a few questions and likely would have originally just sent him on his way. I'm all for standing up for your rights. But in your video none were broken.

As I said before, it generally does more harm then good to antagonize a cop. Again:

"This incident that happened to these two woman had nothing to do with the video you linked us to. It was just a guy being a jerk to get his 3 minutes on YouTube. And the last thing you need to do is give a cop a reason to suspect you. I have some friends who are cops, including several who have worked or are working in an airport. I don't know how many stories I've heard of people who would have normally just been sent on their way, but weren't because they gave the cops (or other security agents) a hard time."

Cops have a right to question you. It's ridiculous to think otherwise. The cops don't have a right to do what these ones did to those woman. But what that guy did in your video was looking for trouble. What I'm saying is that a cop can legally detain you if you give them reason. And most don't go too far like the cops did with these two woman. The guy in your video gave the cop plenty of reason to do so (by being difficult) had she wanted to. Generally, it is better to simply answer the questions straight and let them move on to someone else. It goes a lot easier for everyone that way. But of course then you can't put it on YouTube.

The cop should have given them the DUI field sobriety test and then determined if they were under the influence of alcohol and/or drugs and then taken them to jail if they flunked the test. If they passed then they should have let them go. On the other hand the girls probably thought a cavity search involved checking their teeth.

Spiddas:

When I was detained in secondary, I had answered all their questions, politely, and was still detained, without probable cause.

Btw, google Pastor Anderson and see how attempting to assert your 4th Amendment right gets the crap beaten out of you.

And the sheeple think this is perfectly acceptable.

God of Fate:

What I'm saying is that a cop can legally detain you if you give them reason.

And what reason did I give for the checkpoint to stop me and ask me questions? Just because I was driving on a road? What reason does every person driving on that road give in order to be stopped and questioned?

@ Debi,

It's called security. They have it for a reason, particularly by the border. I don't know about you, but I prefer we keep our borders secure. If you don't like it, don't drive through the check point.

I wonder how this would turn out if it were Willie Nelson getting groped?

^ What? What does that have to do with this? Or anything?

"if they hadnt littered to begin with, they wouldnt have been pulled over to start this whole chain of worthless events."

Right. It's the victim's fault. If those dumb kids in Connecticut had stayed home, they wouldn't have gotten killed.

Horse@!$%#.

Johnqpublic: At least they used a female trooper. too bad why dont y'all druggies go to some place like Colorado or washington the legalized it. In Texas we will not only stop you but do a strip search. God Bless the State of Texas." This pretty much explains the state ranking in quality of education.

Typical ultra right wing response to a very common systemic societal issue.

Unfortunately we live in a society transformed after "9-11" and we all have to deal with the the self made new world order security guards and police. It won't be many generations before the public will be so "brainwashed" (yes I said the "B" word), that folks will undress before boarding airliners, giving even more thrills to the perverts at The Fatherland Security.

The real threat was DUPONT who didn't want unfair competition from a natural plant known as hemp (not pot). Used for many purposes until weak corrupt politicians gave in to pushy corrupt corporations like DUPONT, who saw their harmful manmade products as more profitable than a plant any farmer can produce. Hemp produces much more paper than wood and uses less water per acre, and is friendlier to the environment. So wake up America !!!!!!!!!!! pot isn't the only issue the elite 1% are keeping secret, but the very useful fiber that comes from the hemp plant, that also has many other uses, and the plant produces oil, seeds, etc....the list goes on and on !!!

I once saw an unedited hand held video(utube? sorry I forgot the source, but will never forget the content that was very real and not faked) shot in a Texas prison, by a Texas prison guard, that was right out of the middle ages (or Mexico, Russia, China, Iran, etc...) of prisoners being forced to crawl naked on the floor after being strip searched, and being harassed with a cattle prod, the worst victim was a caucasian prisoner who had a cast on one leg and was being jolted for crawling too slow....."get up there white boy..." it went on and on, and was very disturbing to watch.

It seems we have a lot of issues to resolve in this nation of ours, beginning with human rights, and the rights of the 99%.

^ Pot and Hemp have absolutely nothing to do with this. Don't use a story to push personal agenda! Not that this isn't what the new agencies are doing, but still... Stay on topic at least.

*news agencies

It's ironic how everyone is so concerned about a lesbian cop "feeling up" a woman and her niece, after claiming to smell "pot". Yet we as a society are not even allowed to discuss the possibility of lesbian/gay(I'm not anti gay or homophobic) gym teachers in our public school systems who hang around while our children get dressed and "shower up" after gym class.

In my highschool, the girls gym teacher was discovered to be a lesbian, and our boys gym teacher had 3 children, 2 lesbians and a gay boy. Both gym teachers were in the shower rooms handing out towels, and sometimes even showered with us, but somehow this is not an issue ? What the hell is wrong with this @!$%#ed up society ?

Are we just a bunch of ostriches with our heads stuck in the dirt ? This is a huge double-standard that we all pretend doesn't exist, and hope no one will mention.

Wake up, wimpy society.

The Pendulum swings.......

(yet AGAIN)

and it's all Greek to me.

The New Latin?

CEE! (spelling?)

Twinked...Tweaked...and Twinkie-defensed!

OLA!!!

Cream-filled and "GOLDEN" delicious.....

"AFTER SCHOOL" SNACKINGS!!!.....(ooh-LA-LA)

OLE'......WAA-LA! (spelling?).....

No?

HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!! "BULLET" POINTS IN YOUR STOCKINGS:

1. Psychosis CAN BE CREATED

2. Clinical "RAGE" CAN BE CREATED

My guess is that whoever had to touch this woman suffered a greater trauma ... ewwwww

IF they thought there was reason for such a thorough search, it should have been done at the police dept. and not on the side of the road.

Somebody earlier on this vine accused the police of covering this up. Say WHAT? It's on VIDEO. In PUBLIC. On the INTERNET. In the COURTS. In the MEDIA. And they are calling it a COVER UP? If he wants to bash and criticize these particular cops, fine, so do I find this incident dispicable. But let's not get carried away and paint all law enforcement officers with the same brush.

Wow, these right wingers sure do love them some government when it's violating women.

Debi said:

Tell that to the border checkpoints (located miles inside and on the soil of the U.S.) when they pull you over for "secondary search".

I've been pulled over to "secondary" with my blond, blue eyed grandchildren and had my car searched for no probable cause, then sent on my way. If they felt there was one, they sure didn't tell me. Where are our Constitutional rights for those searches?

Where Homeland Security is concerned--any branch or division thereof--national safety is paramount. The different divisions of Homeland Security (Customs and Border Protection, or CBP; ICE, USCIS, TSA, FEMA, the Secret Service, etc.) pretty much have unilateral authority to perform any act which may protect national security.

The Office of Civil Rights and Civil Liberties is now part of Homeland Security, as is the Office of Legislative Policy. Hence, employees of the various divisions of Homeland Security has the authority to search yourself, your property, etc. without informing you of their reason. They can also 'arrest' you without having a chargeable reason--it's called 'civil detention'.

Although the letter of the law says they can only detain you for 24 hours, and after that they HAVE to charge you with something/arrest you or let you go, the law has been ignored at will by certain authorities.

RoundRobin said:

If you haven't committed an offense that requires your arrest, the officer has no probable cause for search.

You can be remanded to an authority's custody without being arrested. It's called 'civil detention'. While this has in the past been limited to no longer than 24 hours, cases are popping up of people held for longer periods.

I was civilly detained for three years when USCIS lost my adoption paper. I was internationally adopted as an infant, never told before my parents passed away in a car accident, so when ICE came to me asking for a copy of the adoption decree, I couldn't give them one since I never knew.

A missing adoption paper is not an arrestable crime, and I had a valid, legal SS Card , DL and my birth certificate (issued after my adoption decree was shown to a judge) showed Dad and Mom as my legal parents. Those documents were, however, not acceptable as proof that I had been legally adopted so I was civilly detained (but not arrested since it wasn't a crime for me not to have my adoption paper, wasn't a crime for me not to know I was adopted, and it wasn't a crime for the government to have lost a piece of paper.)

Since I was abandoned as an infant at an international orphanage overseas without an accompanying birth certificate or other documentation saying where I was born or when or to who, there was no 'home country' to deport me to, so I was simply told I would remain in civil detention until I gave them a copy of my adoption paper. The strip search and body cavity search administered immediately after that pronouncement was one of the most embarrassing, humiliating, degrading experiences of my life to that time--I was 18, and a very sheltered private-school bookworm only interested in my books and my painting, so this was a huge reality check for me.

The deportation camp I eventually ended up in was in Texas--the Willacy processing center in Raymondville, a privately-owned for-profit deportation camp that Human Rights Watch called 'Ritmo' because it reminded them of Guantanamo Bay. There was little supervision, the guard could do pretty much whatever they wanted, so there were random strip searches and body cavity searches (especially of the 'Female--18-25' pod) and we didn't have the right to ask that a female officer do the searches--whoever was available did them and it was always guys. There was one guard we all hated that would stick his fingers into us, say that he felt something but it was too far up for him to reach, and call his buddy over to stick his fingers in us too. If they decided they still 'couldn't get it out' we'd be taken to the infirmary, put up on the exam table and a doctor would open us up to 'have a look' and the guards would stick around as 'witnesses to contraband discovery.' Of course they never found anything, but as I stated in post 1.11 above, having people watch was...atrocious.

This was also the same guard who, when bored, selected one of us stateless ones (stateless=having no country, and therefore no rights under any country's laws anywhere) told us to strip, made us kneel and pointed a gun to our heads while giving us a lecture about how we were a waste of air and space, and pulled the trigger--on an empty gun.

After the first few times it happens to you, you get used to the idea that it was empty and they were just trying to scare you...but there was always the fear that one day there might be a forgotten round in the chamber and you would die, and we all knew no one would ever know about it--your death would end up as a fine-print statistic on the back page of a prison report and no one would ever know or care what happened to you. Most of the deaths in the deportation camp were never reported, families or relatives never informed, bodies put in cold storage for a short amount of time then cremated and ashes sent to a landfill somewhere. After all, we were stateless-no laws applied to us, we had no rights anywhere, since we didn't officially exist as citizens of any country.

(I did eventually find the adoption paper--took three years of writing to every courthouse in every state we'd ever lived in to find it, but I did eventually find it and my citizenship was restored and I was released.)

Amanda:

Yes, thank you. I am familiar with the usurping of the Constitution in the name of "national security".

God of Fate:

Your opinion, justifying searches with no probable cause ("security") and attempting to control the speech of others ("Don't use a story to push personal agenda! Not that this isn't what the new agencies are doing, but still... Stay on topic at least.") is so unAmerican and certainly not what the men and women of this country died fighting to protect.

Who are you, really?

Your honor the defendant was jaywalking. When I approached him I noticed his hand in his back pocket. I took this as probable cause to do a thorough and exhausting search of his butt cavity. I was unable to find anything so I called Sgt Billybob for backup. He also was unable to find anything so I issued the defendant a ticket for jaywalking, suwee.

Well son that is a mighty fine report. If you will excuse me officers I think I will take the defendant back to my chambers to do my own investigating.

@ Debi,

Anarchy is what is truly unAmerican. You sound as if you would have no enforcement whatsoever. Clearly you do not understand why we have police in the first place. We have freedoms and more so than anywhere else on the planet, but they aren't limitless. And just because you can say whatever you want doesn't mean their won't be consequences. You are allowed to say it, but ultimately are responsible for what you say. Responsibility is something certain people should consider more. And if you say something to a cop that may make them suspicious, they have every right to stop and question you. They don't have the right to do what they did to those woman. But they can stop and question you. The more you unnecessarily you seem evasive and difficult, the more of a reason you give them to suspect you may have something to hide. Again, responsibility for your actions.

This story the article is about is an example of cops going way beyond the bonds of what they are or ever should be allowed to do. However, cops do have the right to do vehicle searches and stop and question you, particularly at checkpoints. I don't see how or why it is so hard for you to understand the simple concept of security.

God of fate said:

However, cops do have the right to do vehicle searches and stop and question you, particularly at checkpoints. I don't see how or why it is so hard for you to understand the simple concept of security.

I'm sure you've heard the Ben Franklin quote "They who would give up a little liberty fora little security shall deserve neither and lose both."

But in Debi's case, it's less about understanding the concept of 'security' and more about the Constitutional right of freedom from unreasonable search and seizure. The Fourth Amendment states:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.^[1]

The keyword here is 'reasonable.' The root of that is 'reason', meaning they SHOULD have a reason to search you. Yes, they can stop you at a checkpoint, but unless they have a REASON to do so, US citizens (i.e. 'The people' as set forth in the amendment above) are exempt from having their houses, vehicles, and persons searched without probable cause. If Debi is carrying her passport at the time of the stop and displays it to the officer,she's proved she's a citizen and is entitled to Constitutional right against unreasonable search.

God of Fate:

And if you say something to a cop that may make them suspicious, they have every right to stop and question you.

And if I've said nor done nothing at all, you still feel they have a right to stop and question me?

There's a huge difference between what should be allowed in the interest of "security" and our 4th Amendment.

Amanda:

I read your experience and am very sorry you were put through that hell. Telling from your posts, you used your time to your, and this country's, advantage.

There are many people in this country who have unfortunately fallen into one of Benjamin Franklin's warnings; the negative part, of course:

"The story goes that as Benjamin Franklin emerged from Independence Hall at the close of the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia on September 18, 1787, a woman asked him, “Well Doctor, what have we got, a republic or a monarchy?”.

Mr. Franklin replied, “A republic, madam – if you can keep it.”

ProBusiness....."This is the kind of stuff the Constitution was supposed to PROTECT you from!!"

This administration and it's Progressive surrogates, and others as related in this article, seem to forget that. Remember, they think the Constitution is a "living and breathing document" which can be changed to meet their "standards" and "agenda".

Gimme a break...It's Obama's fault? Really?

Ido,

You seem to be forgetting that Texas is, through and through, a Republican state, having produced two of the country's worst presidents who actually stripped us of many of our civil liberties, especially the most recent one, who tried to throw the fourth, fifth, fourteenth and even the first amendments out the window while in office.

The environment and atmosphere that allow these kinds of things to happen in Texas are solely the result of Texas being Texas. It's not President Obama's or his administration's fault. But nice try at derailing the conversation.

Are you kidding me trying to make this the Presidents fault? No new laws made or removed that allowed this action you moron and the cops will lose badly in court BECAUSE they did things not allowed in our consitition. I am sooooooooooooooooooooo sick of you whack job right wingers trying to blame everything on our president. I cant read an article about anything without one of you idiots making yet another stupid comment. Even in sports articles! You make yourselves look so completly stupid!!!!!!!!

Ido, none other than Thomas Jefferson, the first Republican, said the US Constitution is a living, breathing document. He said that to expect it to remain the same through the generations is like expecting you to wear the same coat you wore as a child.

Look it up.

Oh, sure, die-hard Republican State of Texas and it's Obama's fault. How about GWB and Rick Perry?

Nice try, ProBusiness, but this was a state-level issue and has nothing to do with the federal government. The President does not control state troopers, the state of Texas does. This is what "states rights" and "small, local government" gets you.

Pro business and Ido are proud of these officers I'm sure, just like they're proud of Texas teaching creationism instead of science in schools, what's left of them. What with Republicons hero Governor Perry cutting the states school budget by over 1/2 BILLION dollars to pay for bribes to rich corporations to move to Texas and pay Sub-living wages. Texas, where Republicons can sleep at night knowing their kids will grow up stupid.

Dom...Real men admit when they screw up. Republican men are bullies and never do. Your post proves that. Who do you blame for an unnecessary war if not a president who spent 16 months campaigning around the country and telling anyone who'd listen Iraq had WMDs when 3 teams of UN investigators proved it was all a lie?

And what was your hero's response to that? Not, "I lied." But, "I was Misinformed" by some nameless informer. So much for blaming GWB...Bush never was president...that gets your kind off the hook. Halliburton's VP Cheney was President in Vitro. Care to admit that? Oh sorry...righties know it all and are never wrong even when facts prove they are.

The Second Amendment right to bear arms is for a militia e.g. the army/military of which there was not one when the constitution was written. It does not apply to personal gun ownership, so let's not keep bringing up this kind of drivel on this thread. The two women who were sexually assaulted by two police officers who are delusional is an abomination. I hope these women sue Texas and Texas is over run by Mexico and taken back by Mexico. Good riddance Texas and these idiot inept police officers.

Lets just hope that these women get's justice for the injustice that has been shown them by the so call Great State of Texas,, don't you know that the law enforcement people of Texas are so proud of themshelves.

This is at least one idiot littering... bad, but solvable with a citation... and two much bigger idiots that violated two women's rights... also solvable, with firings and criminal charges filed (bad cops in prison get a cavity search a day)... plus, of course, the lawsuit...

Perhaps we need to remember that the event related to these two women happened on the side of the road so that anyone passing by could see. No man or woman would want to see their child or spouse treated in this manner, regardless of the political affiliation. It is against the law to conduct such searches in public--not in airports, bus stations, train stations or any other public venue! For any person to be given cavity searches in such a condition would be an outraged and the victim, regardless of gender, would be powerless to do anything at the moment, similar to what these two ladies experienced. This event evidences the worst of humanity, to publicly humiliate another simply because of positional power. Remove them from this power as they are not worthy to call themselves officers and protectors of the public!

Marti - I think you need a history lesson. The 2nd Amendment DOES apply to individual gun ownership. Unless the citizens have a way to defend the Constitution, it isn't worth the paper it is written on. The Founding Fathers placed that Amendment in the Constitution specifically so the other rights could be protected.

They still need to be in trouble for throwing out cigarette butts. Tx is still in drought conditions. How many acres of land and how many homes or businesses could be lost because of one butt? How much wildfire damage has been caused across the whole country because of people not giving a crap where they put their lit cigs?

Marti: The founding fathers gave the "people" the right to keep and bear arms to GUARD against the evils of government. Militia meant "the people" and not government. How do I know? You simply have to understand history and what those involved with writing the Constitution had to say for example Thomas Jefferson. Let's look at the famous quotes of Thomas Jefferson:

1) "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against the tyranny in government"

2) “Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” (Quoting Cesare Beccaria)

3) "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it."

4) "When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."

5) "Most bad government has grown out of too much government."

6) "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not"

Read the above then try to tell me again that Thomas Jefferson meant "government" when he said "Militia". Only a person who has no knowledge of history, the Constitution, or the people who wrote the Constitution would say something so absurd.

And, BTW, I NEVER blamed Obama for this. I blame government. Both state and federal government. We have power hungry law enforcement AND politicians (BOTH PARTIES!!). But more importantly the federal government has taken power from the states significantly over the last 100 years and more so the last four years under Obama. The Constitution was clear: the federal government had LIMITED power and all other power goes to the states AND the people. But the people now have very little power or say anymore and now the federal government has crippled the states.

This country cannot survive with a federal government like we have and if the politicians don't get smart and give BACK power to the people then the people will take it back themselves. We cannot sustain the debt borrowed that the people don't want, redistribution, federal power over health care, federal abuse of regulatory actions, massive governmental agencies crippling the states rights, etc. And now trying to abuse the Constitution by implementing gun control discussions.

If gun control is desired there WILL be an uprising. Non-violent requests at first but will become violent if the people of this country must take-over this country from the greedy and corrupt politicians.

The military is not a militia..

ah hell, let's just blame Russia.

@AGTX That fire hazard point you make does NOT condone a humiliating road side cavity search. And if that happened to you or your mother or sister etc... then I'm sure you would sing a different tune. A citation? yes A warning? yes Maybe a fine then yes. But a criminal interrogation and an illegal car and cavity search in plain view of the public over a thrown cig butt? I don't think so...

Jacob007

Your right. A butt doesn't deserve a cavity search on the side of the road. I didn't mean for anyone to think that. It does, however, deserve more than a fine. Throwing cigs out the window, in the conditions we have been having for the past couple of years, is a huge risk. People should be accountable for such irresponsible actions with more than a $150 ticket.

The 2nd amendment was up and running and yet this event took place. Shows how worthless the 2nd amendment is.

The police who are supposed to protect us are nothing more than Hired Thugs it seems to me. Respect for Cops?? My ASH.

Both officer should be charged with sexual assualt. Yes, both - the one who did the search for sexual assualt and the other for complicity to the crime.

Antberna,

The facilitation of a crime is the same as doing the crime. Never mind the fact that it was the male officer who ordered the search and then stood and watched, no doubt getting his jollies. He can be charged with facilitation, conspiracy and rape, in the same way that someone who commits a felony can be charged with murder if a death occurs doing the commission of the felony. This is true even if he does not directly kill anyone, but someone dies during the crime because of the crime.

LOL.....

@ ldo @ 2.1

Remember now, this happened in your buddy, Rick Perry's state of Texas. President Obama had nothing to do with it, but hey, I understand your kind.

A site that all should view and then watch their videos is Flexyourrights.org! This will aid you in dealing with police and their abuse of people that do not know their rights. There are police that will overstep their boundaries based on your ignorance of your rights! It is up to you to insure that you are aware of those rights. The unfortunate part is that you should obey the officers, even if you know they are wrong! You do need to let them know you believe that they are violating your civil rights, and if they continue you can pursue it afterwards! They have been trained and should know better,we must weed out the bad ones!

Cops don't wait for someone to do something to pull you over. All they have to do is say you were weaving a little and can justify pulling anyone over. Then they use the excuse that they smell booze or marijuana and use that excuse to search you and the car. Never give them permission.

People like Probusiness that claim we've lost more rights under Obama than any previous president never explain exactly what rights we've lost. I thought it was Bush after 9-11 that took away many rights and protections and expanded the power of government. But then he was a white president and republican so it's ok.

This administration and it's Progressive surrogates, and others as related in this article, seem to forget that. Remember, they think the Constitution is a "living and breathing document" which can be changed to meet their "standards" and "agenda".

Right wingers only cite the constitution when it suits their purpose or threatens their guns. It isn't democrats that have in their platform the desire to make even the killing of a fertile egg by the morning after pill or a spermicide murder because it conflicts with their religious beliefs or forcing women to have a vaginal ultrasound before an abortion can be performed. They ignore the constitutions mandate of separation of church and state because it conflicts with their religious beliefs. How is what these officers did different than what republicans want to force on women with an inner vaginal probe? It's right wingers that ignore the constitution and no surprise this happened in a red state. Name anything similar where liberals have attempted to change or ignore the constitution to fit their agenda.

Sicko. They could have caused a serious infection on top of the dehumanizing treatment.

I'm guessing all Texan men are such law abiding citizens they'd never dare think to throw a cigarette butt out the windows of those Bully Boi pickups right? Lots of "splaining" to do here. Dollar to a pound of long horn dung...these cops get away with this.

My guess is he was trying to first shake them down for a blow job or to see if they would hand over - to him - any drugs they might've had. When they had no drugs and didn't barter sex for their freedom, the sick twist of a cop called in reinforcements to heap more trouble and humiliation on them. A nice, big fat civil suit against the Irving PD is in order, followed by a civil suit against each of these so-called police officers.

Im guessing all Texan men are such law abiding citizens they'd never dare think to throw a cigarette butt out the windows of those Bully Boi pickups right? Lots of "splaining" to do here. Dollar to a pound of long horn dung...these cops get away with this.

Only reason the cops would get away with it in texas or any other state is due to the power of the police unions.

Good Old Ewent never disappoints. Hates aLL men, but especially men from Texas!

"Only reason the cops would get away with it in texas or any other state is due to the power of the police unions."

That took as much intelligence as it would to say that....

The Sandy Hook Massacre took place because the power of the Teachers Union .

Or that you happened due to the power of the VETERINARY Union...

A site that all should view and then watch their videos is Flexyourrights.org! This will aid you in dealing with police and their abuse of people that do not know their rights. There are police that will overstep their boundaries based on your ignorance of your rights! It is up to you to insure that you are aware of those rights. The unfortunate part is that you should obey the officers, even if you know they are wrong! You do need to let them know you believe that they are violating your civil rights, and if they continue you can pursue it afterwards! They have been trained and should know better,we must weed out the bad ones!

That is so true , Barlow.

Never consent to a police search of your vehicle or cavities, even if the threaten you with "smelling pot" or some other crap. If they have to ask your permission, they have no grounds to search your vehicle.

"With all due respect, officer, I do not consent to any searches", followed by "Am I under arrest or am I free to go?"

Know your rights!

Barlow-1919963 and American Patriot-2592388 (what a joke that it!!)....YOUR ignorance and stupidity are shining through...ignorance and stupidity reign all over the world. Both of you just proved it with your ignorant and stupid comments. Texans don't want your kind in Texas...just sayin'....

true but also keep in mind they never consented or were asked for consent.

Not everyone in Texas is this stupid!... Just the Government, law enforcement, and the people who support them.

There appears to be a severe drought affecting what remains of an already shallow gene-pool there. Let us all pray for rain because we didn't have the foresight to put in a pre-secession border fence.

In the words of Mel Brooks, "It's good to be the King"

Save us o lord from sickness, violence and bad pussy...

" Texans don't want your kind in Texas...just sayin'...."

TEXANS are a people who think that Mexico has things worth stealing...

Dont forget to PAY YOUR SHARE of the NATIONAL DEBT before you secede ...

in CASH !

Yes, some cops do deserve to be derided and insulted. But, even in the worst departments, corrupt and twisted cops are the minority. Other cops know who the bully cops are and loathe them.

When such "pig" cops have an emergency, the good cops obey traffic laws and drive safely... and slowly.... to the incident.

Sic-n-tired, they may or may not be a minority in police departments. But I know all cops do the ol' "I'm just going to search your car, okay?" trick.

Any "cop" that does not turn in those corrupt "cops" that they "loathe" are just as "corrupt" as the ones they "loathe" and are therefore just as much to blame! They have no one to blame for the derision except themselves!

If my brother rapes a woman and I dont report him, I can and will be charged as a co-conspirator , and all cops who dont do the same should be charged with the same crime as the "guilty" cops.

We don't even know that he thought he smelled anything. We don't know that he wasn't lying about it, just so he'd have an excuse.

I'm wondering how he smelled pot through a plastic bag of some sort and inside a body cavity.

Something I can't help thinking about: When someone murders a cop, the punishment is higher supposedly because of the threat to public safety it causes. So when bad cops give the public a reason not to to trust the police, shouldn't that be seen as at least as damaging to public safety? Shouldn't the offending officers get stiffer penalties for their misdeeds? And yet, these 2 will most likely get swept under the rug with half-hearted talk about how "their many fine years of service" somehow makes them deserving of a lesser punishment.

I totally agree, Joe! This is simply despicable... I cringed watching that bitch put her hand down the shorts of that poor woman...and for what?!?!? It was DISGUSTING, and in PUBLIC view no less!! I sincerely hope the department does the right thing and fire both officers and charge the female with a sex crime. Unbelieveable abuse of power in the first degree, here!

The male needs to be charged, too, as an accomplice.

I agree RM, the lady officer should be charged as a Sex Offender and she should have to register as one.

Go to any US college campus and you'd surely smell weed. But from the a-hole or v-jay........hmmmmmm, that takes skills.

• "I Smelled Pot" is a common cop lie.

If there had been any in that vehicle, they would have arrested the girls and we would never have heard of this incident, because guilty people are routinely ignored when then report ill-treatment.

End the pot witch-hunt!

Legalize it for all use, everywhere. No one gets arrested for cigarettes or cigars, and those kill a hundred thousand Americans every year!

this happened almost 6 months ago, nothing is gonna happen to the pigs. they are above us, better than us and the laws dont apply to them. they never let a chanc e to prove that to us slip by!

Again it happened 6 months ago and we are just hearing about it now.nothing but a paid vacation for these pigs! Even if they get punnished they will just go oveer to the next county and get another job.

There is nothing we can do about it. she would have been shot if she had resisted.

All a PIG has to say is "I smelled ... (enter any illegal scent)" and the Judge automatically believes the PIG as the PIG has no reason to lie. Just ask any judge. He'll tell you so at any speeding ticket hearing.

I guess it isn't considerd news until a law suit is filed, Why don't the reporters tell us what these officers have been doing the last 6 months? are they still patroling, stalking, suspended.

I bet he made up the littering charge like he made up the I SMELL POT charge, I'm suprised he didn't use the ole illegal lane change scam.

This would be a great COURT TV case, I want to hear the officer explain their actions!

Well, sure, Hoop, Texas doesn't want anyone who is "reasonably logical" in their state, it would throw it completely out of balance.

If stupid were an Idol, Their God would destroy most Texans for worshipping it.

hahahahahahahah..........okie you funny.

I know i will be laughing my ass off the next time i hear on the news that a Texas cop was shot and killed.And laughing even harder,when they come out and say that the officer killed was a good and respected person in the community,like they so much like to say.I think the the mentally ill need to stop shooting up schools and innocent children and focus on police stations.

We're all taughtt to respect the law, how are we suppose to, civil rights violations were clearly broken. I hope the ALCU gets involved in this. Both these idiots should loose their jobs & I hope the courts throw the book @ them & these ladies get millions of dollars for their humiliation.

Nah, I think they'd enjoy it too much.

40% of all divorced Cop Wives claim they were coerced or consented to

having sex involving their husbands service revolver...

and 50% of all Cops admit to law violations when no one was present (rolling a Stop Sign)

Your chance of being pulled over by HONEST MORAL COP is less than 1 in 10 .

REMEMBER - you are NOT REQUIRED to say anything except remind the Cop that you are not required to say ANYTHING !

Let them self deport and take their aversion to intelligence with them.

Do they have antelopes in tex-azz?

I say just give Texas back to Mexico and be done with it.

Texas is just another Suburb of Mexico, just like Arizona.

I live in Texas and you are allowed to have guns in the car. You were always allowed to have long guns (rifles and shotguns), but two or three years ago legislation was passed allowing handguns in the car too, without a CHL. I do have a CHL and have been stopped two times in as many years for speeding and the cop, both times were DPS. Each time I was asked if I had a gun, I said "yes" and he asked where it was, I told them in the console. He said "leave the gun in the console". I got a verbal warning for speeding once and a written warning for speeding once.

Note to women in Texas, carry a gun in your car, the police will treat you with more respect!

Which should prove to a lot of people how screwed up things have gotten. You can carry around a weapon with no other purpose than to injure or kill another human and nobody cares. Not even the cop that pulled you over.

Yet. If they just suspect you have a little bit of a plant in your car you get raped in full public view. My God, what have we come to?

They get away with what they want every where, not just in Texas.

We as a nation need judicial reform and better oversight

You are right about the police officers in Texas, they lie to do what ever they want. If they say they smell weed, it is only because they want to search your car or person without probable cause. Constable pct 5 Troy Morin pulled me over in Houston, TX at a drive through ATM because he said I looked suspicious and proceeded to search my vehicle without my consent then jailed me and towed my car because he said he saw me stop and pick the female up and that I stopped in the middle of the road obstructing traffic. He later denied these facts in court and my traffic ticket was dismissed but not after being violated. They are lying pigs. I hate cops and spit on them all. I am moving to Mexico where I feel more free then this land of the free and will spend all my Veterans Affairs Disability income to help the economy of Mexico and not the U.S. I hate the U.S. though I served in combat for them and was born in Colorado.

It has nothing to do with their poor educations or poor training. I'd say they were well trained: they'd been trained to claim they smelled marijuana as a pretext for a search. Is there any evidence there actually was a marijuana smell? No, it's not education or training. It's the law enforcment culture that's the problem.

I'm sure Texas is not the only state with law enforcement problems, but isn't Texas supposed to be about freedom from excessive government interference? Having a cavity search after being stopped for littering doesn't sound like freedom--sounds like living in a police state.

Have they both been suspended? Why not? I am a middle aged white guy who believes in the second ammendment and if that was my daughter both of those cops would have perfectly round holes between their eyes. Don't smoke dope but this is just another cost of our war on drugs. It is easier to harrass a couple of women than getting off their fat usless asse$ and going after bad guys. I also know that most cops aren't this way and the good need to make sure they get rid of the bad. In Milwaukee cops had to be paid even when on trail for felonies, love those public employee unions, that is who keeps the trash at work and the good get a belly full and leave

When I first moved to Texas, I lived in Kingsville. My boyfriend was in law enforcement so I met many officers. I overheard some conversations between law enforcement that surprised me. This is standard practice in Texas. At that time (10 years ago), the Drug Task Force in Texas was the most effective one in the nation. Officers from other states were routinely sent to Texas to learn the methods that made Texas enforcement so successful and this is how they did it. Any time there is a traffice stop, if the officer thinks there is the slightest possibility that there may be drugs they use the 'acting funny' card to justify a search. There does not have to be any concrete evidence of wrong doing. They will often take the person to jail on a DUI charge, if they make a fuss about the search, based on the 'acting funny,' even if they can pass a field sobriety test. There are not many things about Texas that I do not like, but this is one of them.

This is one of many reasons why i dont feel sorry for texas cops getting shot either,they deserve it.

WTF101... I don't usually say this... but you are a sick phuque...... no one deserves to get shot.....

You probably whine that they don't get there fast enough when you NEED their protection... there are bad apples in every aspect of our society....... and wishing someone death is just sick... YOU are why the Tallywakers and terrorists are LAUGHING at us.......... we can't even stand in support of our own.....

Cops put up with whiny, pissy little freaks every day. THEY do their best to stop the little turds with guns they stole that want YOUR money, wallet, daughter etc. THEY are first to get there when YOU are the victim of some thug that robs you and rapes your wife. THEY are the first to chase down some thief that just robbed some little old lady while turds like you stood by and watched her get beat down...... And it's people like you that demand they respond in minutes while bitching about your property taxes and how they "don't need more money." And then creeps like you sue them because your little bitty feewings were hurt when he stopped you for doing 50 in a school zone while yapping on your cell phone.........

Paul...

THEY do their best to stop the little turds with guns they stole that want YOUR money, wallet, daughter

In this case IT WAS THE COPS WHO WANTED SOME ONES DAUGHTER, NIECE. AND THEREFORE DESERVE TO GET SHOT!

They ARE the ones who

rapes your wife

I hope these two POS cops go to prison. As cops, I'm sure they will be "cavity searched" several times a day by their fellow inmates. It will be poetic justice.

Hey Chris-2727877,or maybe the taxpayers could catch a break,and instead of spending thousands of dollars on lawyers and jail time,maybe a innocent person will get fed up with there tactics,and pull out a gun and just shoot and kill them.

There is always a few bad apples in a basket its all about getting rid of them before they taint the rest of the bunch. The problem is not with Texas it is with the nation. If you read the news you would/could be able to see that. Also theres a huge problem with Police Unions. You cant fire a bad cop even if you think that cop is a threat to your community due to the power of the police unions. Police Unions take the power away from the people to regulate their police force and place it in the hands of the police to self regulate. Its like the fox watching the hen house. Why do you think so many think they can do whatever they want and are above the law?

It's not just the police unions allowing this to happen. I believe the good cops are the minority and even the good cops will face some type of persecution from within, if they blow the whistle. Then of coarse, there are the good cops in denial. Don't you think the cops know what power they have? Just doing this criminal act to 2 females on the side of the road, should tell you they have every confidence that other officers and administration officials condone this activity (unless of coarse, they get caught and become public) or this boldness would not exist. It is not....."a few bad apples spoil the bunch" It's......."a few bad apples caught, spoils their fun". You know....ain't $hit gonna happen to em. The government that pays law enforcement is corrupt and the cops that protect the government are corrupt and that's all they are here for these days anyway. They should all just have one big organization. They can call it, "The Government Protection Agency" That way they could once again have decals on their cars that say, "to protect and serve" with out almost everyone one knowing what a sorry a$$, POS joke they have become.

John... you don't think ALL textbooks for school kids aren't vetted?

Ask yours about the Civil War. It's slowly being phased out and becoming a racial "thing" that isn't to be mentioned. (My girlfriend was derided one day when she mentioned in a group that her great great grandfather was in the Confederate Army.... Her heritage is now a "sensitive issue" and not to be mentioned in public?) And ask them about the "altercation" in Viet Nam and see what they say about it. How many of them know that there was an uprising and RACE RIOTS in Detroit?

that's because the cops give them plenty to do....

Back... check the commercials after midnite in your area.... bet you will see just as many "hungry coyotes" looking for "victims" of surgical mesh, pain meds, asbestos, heart meds and on and on and on... WE AS A COUNTRY are happy to be victims to sue for any reason you can think of.....

Rural Washington State Perspective

This is too much about "outrage" and "humiliation" against a group with deep pockets for me to take it more seriously.

Because of your enlightened response, I'm now convinced that all accusations against wealthy individuals, corporations, and gov't agencies are completely without merit. Even if they did do something wrong, they should get away with it, since it would ruin the economy according to supply side economic theory. It's for the "greater good."

Wait... what if the attorney suing is rich, too? Now I'm confused!

And just what does these women working have to do with anything?? Or if they're married?? Or if they have children??? NOTHING AT ALL... This is about ABUSE OF POWER... PERIOD....

The woman and her Neice were in her boyfriends car, would you like this treatment for anybody related to you? I'm smelling a lot of stupid here today!!! gonna need more gloves. Oh wait i can multi use these without worry of spreading any contagions.

So Rural , you would be OK with a cop finger bangin your momma on the side of the road , you must be from way out in the backwoods because that is not acceptable behaviour

SUKmeBollix

That was crude, disrespectful... and completely hilarious. Please don't do that again. I'm at work and had to stifle my laughter.

the gloves ... that right there does it man ... life, HEALTH, and SAFETY

I'm having trouble reconciling the idea that anytime someone sues the 'deep pockets' the suit is without merit and the other side of the coin that says rich people are all lying, cheating weasels that will do whatever is necessary to make a buck. This was about money to the cops as well. Drug busts are big bucks for law enforcement what with property confiscation laws and what have you. I'd be more interested in seeing a fiscal budget for the department than a marriage license for the victim.

As a former police officer, I am appalled at the behavior of these DPS officers. The pat down of a suspect is allowed only when the officer is in fear for his safety. An officer cannot search a vehicle without a warrant or a consent to search signed by the owner. Only upon an arrest can an "inventor" be done on the vehicle without a warrant. Cavity search on the side of the road? No drugs were found, no weapons, no threats, but pull down your pants and open wide. This is outrageous!!!! This could be your daughter driving back to college or your mother coming home from work. If this behavior is allowed without punishment, you endanger all women in the State of Texas. These officers were not trying to protect, they were amusing themselves with their power. DO NOT let them get away with it.

The officers should get disciplined severely. I don't think these women should be compensated at all. Why do we always have to pay people money?? Our society is sooo sue happy that it's a joke. They should seek justice for the injustice done to them, but not compensation. And you wonder why our society is in such a mess. Lets just sue everybody because I bet someone somewhere has done you wrong. Lets over react to everything and lets make as much as we can for it. It happened in Texas so I guess it makes sense since they once elected George W. Bush for their Governor, oh wait...and the rest of the country elected him to the Presidency, TWICE!!

Why should they get money? Because they reported this to the proper authorities and nothing happened. So you make them give you a lot of money and the next time they pay attention. Money talks. If they get enough, they can get the hell out of Texas and move to a state that still believes in the Constitution.

I think this incident is a good example of why pot should be legalized. It's absurd that the two women had to go through that experience merely on suspicion they had some marijuana in the car. The cops should be out pursuing drunk drivers, rapists, murders and burglars. Instead, they spend all that time harassing two women as if they were hardened criminals.

It's true, some cops don't deserve the authority they have. Some people get a badge and a uniform and they act like they can bully people and harass them over little things. I guess these two cops felt they were earning their pay. For throwing butts out of the car they should have gotten a warning, not a cavity search.

I remember a bullying incident by cops when I lived in Santa Fe. An elderly gentlemen with a good reputation went to a nursery and bought some marigolds in little planters. He had them in the back of his station wagon in clear sight. Two dumb local cops got it into their heads he was transporting marijuana. He got out of the car and tried to explain, but one of the cops roughed him up and threw him against his vehicle, injuring his shoulder. He sued the city for this abuse - and yeah, the plants were proven to be marigolds. When the cop in question heard he was suing, he actually called up the man and made threats against him.

Anyway, why should these ladies get money? Because local budgets are tight, and having to pay out money for abuses like this will get the attention of the governor and the local authorities. A mere slap on the wrist would be forgotten overnight. That's why they should sue for money. Cops like that we don't need, and can't trust or respect.

RWSP: And if it was your wife and daughter? Has it ever occurred to you that you are "the other person"?

"Don't see that this is much different than what the TSA does."

Having been strip searched by airport security, I can truthfully tell you this is NOT what happens with the TSA. They do not strip search you in full view of the public; you and all your items are taken to a closed, private room where you are searched by an officer of the same sex with another in attendance.

The search performed by the female officer was in complete violation of the women in this case. There is NO reason for anyone to be cavity searched while traffic is passing by. The male officer should not even have been present for this search; but he was also violating their rights by searching the vehicle without permission. If they said no to his search, he should have called in the drug dog. Then maybe there would have been something to back up his story about there being pot in the vehicle.

As abhorrent as TSA practices are, they don't conduct strip searches in the view of other travelers. They take them to a private room and conduct the search. There's a big difference.

DoggieMom...Until you are the one standing in full view of traffic on a highway with your pants down around your knees and someone has their finger in your derriere?

Please...that male cop was getting even first because he nothing but a litter fine to pin on these two women and second because he was showing ass as all cops do when they try to make a pointless bust they know isn't going to pass.

Gotta have some excuse to "confiscate" that hydrocodone, after all!

The TSA is still violating your 4th Amendment rights. There is no "reasonable" about searching you, just because you are flying.

I have yet to have a problem with TSA and I keep forgetting take stuff out of my pockets ... that being said, I'd like to see DHLS go away ... that would save some money in the budget ... they have outlived their role ...

These troopers are crazy, idiotic and moronic! They'll pay for being the sleeziest cops ever found in TEXAS!!

Welcome to your lawsuit you sick idiots at the Texas State Troopers!

I would decked that woman the moment she touched my life... and there would have been her teeth on the ground. Next, the trooper who called the sexual psycho assistant. I wouldhave busted his jaw and left him with his gun up his ass!

EWENT!!!!....

You and your male hating ways seem to forget that IT WAS THE FEMALE POLICE OFFICER WHO VIOLATED THESE GIRLS!!! She could easily have refused to do an unsubstantiated search and sent the women on their way. It was the FEMALE cop who violated both these girls without changing gloves.

I hate all cops evenly, male or female. Pinning the blame on one sex and not the other just shows how much you hate men. Place the blame where it belongs, not just on the male cop, but the whole judicial system.(male AND female).

I have never seen one of your posts that doesn't ridicule the male of our species!

Daddy must have done something terrible to you for you to be this way.

Clarification - Utah is a Mormon Republican state. Even bigger control freaks.

WTF!!!!

these two clowns (the coppers) are classic examples of how there is no common sense left in this country.

seems just about everyone is nuts these days, except for me and you. and lately i have been having my doubts about you!!

Are you a Soldier? there the only ones allowed that diagnosis. (Fraud)