
Photo montage courtesy of ICE
Federal agents are asking the public's help in finding this woman, along with a child who is believed to be aged 4 or 5.
Update: Within hours of posting an image of a “Jane Doe” suspected of engaging in sex acts with a child in a pornography video, Homeland Security Investigations received tips that led to the woman's arrest.
Corine Danielle, Motley, 25, was arrested by the Homeland Security Investigations team in Pensacola, Fla. and Northwest Florida Internet Crimes Against Children Task Force. Authorities believe that Motley produced at least one long-form porn video with a child between the ages of 4 and 6, and that the video was posted on Nov. 27.
“There is nothing more satisfying than knowing that, due to these efforts, a child is now safe and her tormentor now in custody," U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement Director John Morton said in a statement. The agency had released the photo as a last-ditch measure after other leads had been exhausted.
Motley is being held without bail.
Federal officials are seeking help from the public to find a woman suspected of producing a child porn video - as well as a young victim who appears in it.
Immigration and Customs Enforcement described the effort as not only one to arrest the woman, who is believed to be in her mid- to late 20s, but also to "rescue the victim," whose identity has not been determined.
At the center of the case is a video that officials say shows the woman engaged in explicit sexual conduct with the victim, who appears to be aged 4 or 5.
Authorities believe the woman lives somewhere in the United States.
A “Jane Doe” arrest warrant was issued for the woman on Tuesday in U.S. District Court in Washington, only the second such warrant obtained by ICE's child-exploitation investigations unit this year.
ICE has posted photographs of the woman on its website, along with details of how to submit information that could assist with capturing her and finding the child.
The woman is described as white, aged 23 to 29, with a medium build and brown hair with blond highlights. She has greenish hazel eyes, a mole on her left thigh and a tongue piercing.
The Danish National Police alerted U.S. authorities to the video after officers downloaded it in Denmark. The material was submitted to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children.
Authorities request that anyone with information about this person contact ICE immediately by calling 866-347-2423.
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I hope they find her soon. If she did what they say,shes sick.
A sad truth is that the pornographer was probably a VICTIM once herself. You can see it in her lifeless eyes. TRAGIC. However, I hope they find this deranged child abuser and SAVE THE PRECIOUS CHILD.
What have we become?
Someone has seen this woman and maybe even sees her frequently: a clerk at a grocery store, a neighbor. And she most likely has family members who would recognize her. It's important to keep her picture out there until she is found by the police.
I hope she is reported immediately and this horror stops. It's just sick.
I agree, kaybeetoys - someone has seen this woman. I'm sure a lot of someones see her. The problem is, a good number of people, with their addiction to checking their smartphone every 45 seconds, just glance up to see if they're about to be hit by a bus, then they go right back into the smart phone hypnotic state. There's a whole world happening out there, folks. And, some people living in it, like this precious little child, need our help. I hope they find this woman soon. Maybe that will lead to the rescue of the child.
Maybe she was a victim; maybe not. It's a common assumption that doesn't always prove true. Some people are just bad news without having a bad childhood at the root. Either way, once somebody moves from being a victim to committing a crime of this magnitude, they are now a criminal.
I hope the child is rescued soon!
Attention people. I'm a former victim of the Roman Catholic Church. Here is my strong advice to you in finding this evil woman. Study the photo shown here real closely. Memorize her certain facial features. Look at her chin. Look at her lips. Look at her nose. Look at the skin below her eyes. Look at her forehead directly above the eyes. Memorize them!
Pedophilia assault on a child at the age of seven and under will cause Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID) infliction. This disorder lasts forever and medical treatment needed for the victim to regain back his or her life again can last upwards to ten years.
How do we prevent er curb this type of crime from happening all the time? Life in prison without the possibility of parole is the only way to prevent these evil monsters from harming human minds. The only other alternative in order to curb these monsters is to kill them and I am serious when I say this.
Pedophilia is genetic. For some strange reason nobody seems to address this. Anybody who does not believe me should ask a criminal psychologist who studies these freaks. Again, pedophilia is genetic. This woman yes may have been a victim herself at one time, by her parents lets say. But, two wrongs don't make a right.
I challenge you to show me how pedophilia is genetic..
Behavior due to past traumas, yes. Genetic???? Don't think so. Maybe your meaning of genetic differs from mine.
When studying a pedophile's family background it has been shown that some of the grandparents, parents, siblings and direct relations had pedophilia symptoms also. Also, the pedophile gene can be dormant or active. The active gene are those we all know about like this woman assailant for example. As for those with a dormant gene the gene will awaken at times and the individual will become attracted to young children. But the dormant gene will stay awake for only some moments before it becomes dormant again and when this occurs the individual becomes remorseful for thinking the way he or she just had. A good example of how a dormant gene will awaken is when the individual notices a child with excess exposed flesh like at a beach where kids are wearing bathing suits.
Key2Joy,
1. I don't see her eyes as lifeless (maybe a little out of it, maybe a little drunk or high), and doubt that you can tell that someone was a victim due to their eyes.
2. As for "What have we become?" Pedophiles have always been with us. And greatly tolerated for long stretches of time. I think that we are actually have much less toleration for it than in the past, and are better at publicizing it and reacting to it, you will never totally prevent it, especially since so much of it comes from parents.
Dissociate, as I thought. You are just here pedaling nonsense. Thought I'd give you a chance to back up your claims, though anyone with basic knowledge knows better.
FYI: Some here are not as stupid as you might think.
All I can say is that if she knows she's wanted, her hair is now black with brown eyes no tongue piercing and a little make-up on her left thigh.
Scumbag...
To an extent this behavior is genetic and it is found in EVERY animal ( including humans ) on the planet. It is a vary natural thing for male and female animals to take younger mates. Just like everything in nature, there are some animals with some overly distorted version of a natural process. It happens and as much as we like to think of our selves as different from animals, we are really not all that different.
That being said, we do have intelligences and awareness. We are also supposed to show empathy, so there is still no real excuse. Just make no mistake, this need is borne into all animals and there will be those that take those needs way to far.
To Dissociate - You should volunteer yourself to scientists looking for the 'Stupid' gene, it's clearly very active in you.
Find this animal immediately!!! Then put her in a hole and throw the key away. I'm in Law Enforcement, and one of the biggest challenges in my profession is keeping your cool when coming into contact with this special type of demon.
I agree with the post who said once she went past the point of victim and assaulted a child she became a criminal.
I'm so tired of hearing about what a bad childhood this or that criminal had.
How many of us have been victims in our lives? Victims of abuse of some form, of alcoholism or drug abuse of parents or older siblings? Of having a teacher/coach touch us inappropriately? I'd be willing to be a great many of us have to some degree or another. Does that mean we all grew up to abuse children/drugs, whatever?
Of course not. Most of us deal with it and move on from it. There comes a time in your life when you need stop blaming others for your bad decisions.
I pray to God this poor child is found, and brought to safety. As for the scumbag who abused him/her She belongs in prison..FOREVER. Put her in with the general population, and let it be known that she's a child abuser. Let the convicts deliver their own justice on her.
I hear the stupid gene can be passed down through generations. LOL
TFNJ
I hear the stupid gene can be passed down through generations. LOL
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So can the incessant bulling gene and the gene that distorts the brain into thinking it is a good idea to keep picking on people and calling names.
I guess if it makes you feel better about yourself we should all have the presence of mind to feel bad enough for you to let you get it out of your system.
So, you are saying you believe Dissociate? Here, I will let you in on a clue. Since there is no way he/she read that anywhere, since its not true, then I determined that he/she is purposely spreading misinformation for their own entertainment, and laughing at whomever believes it.
Sorry if I can see through people's bull crap, and know who deserves a good picking on.. LOL
His assertions would sound odd if I didn't know that science is already looking at a genetic component to this behavior. The behavior dose have roots in the drive to procreate, although it is not quite like how the other poster puts it. Society must look at both behavioral modification and genetic cause and effect. To leave one or the other out would mean failure to understand the condition and failure to prevent it in the future.
Here is a relevant story on it.
http://www.worldcrunch.com/there-pedophilia-gene/tech-science/is-there-a-pedophilia-gene-/c4s4032/#.UNM4Fmn2zW0
Those studies were done to see how human sexuality works, and why some people turn out gay. It involved sexuality, not pedophilia. Sure enough if you make someone not want to have sex, then they would not want to sexually abuse. But that is just a side benefit to the results. Pedophilia comes from some mental disorder like past trauma.
There is no pedophile gene.
http://www.worldcrunch.com/there-pedophilia-gene/tech-science/is-there-a-pedophilia-gene-/c4s4032/
A genetic mutation might be the cause of pedophilia, according to an Italian study. If further research confirms the initial results, the sexual attraction of some adults to children might be considered a disease that can be treated.
A study conducted by neuroscientists at Turin University and researchers at the department of neurological science of the University of Milan asserts that pedophilia is caused by a defective growth factor called pleiotropic protein Progranulin (PGRN). The results were published in the journal Biological Psychiatry and presented during a recent convention of the Neurological Italian Society in Turin.
Lorenzo Pinessi, coordinator of the research, has studied the case of a man who at 50 started to show pedophile behavior toward his 9-year-old daughter. A neurological analysis showed that he was affected by a mutation of Progranulin, which is an essential substance for the process of sexual differentiation of the brain. The mutation of this substance is believed to be associated with a reduction in impulse control leading to frontotemporal lobe dementia, a condition similar to Alzheimer’s.
Proving that pedophilia has neurobiological causes means “there is a chance to treat it,” said Pinessi. After some weeks of treatment with anti-psychosis and antidepressant medications, "the patient stopped his pedophile behavior,” said the researcher. Still the team acknowledges that more research is needed to determine if all pedophiles display the same genetic mutations.
TFNJ
Those studies were done to see how human sexuality works, and why some people turn out gay. It involved sexuality, not pedophilia. Sure enough if you make someone not want to have sex, then they would not want to sexually abuse. But that is just a side benefit to the results. Pedophilia comes from some mental disorder like past trauma.
There is no pedophile gene.
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You did not read what I put up, but my point was that they are actively looking at that component for the reason of treatment. To leave it out of the mix would be to fail to stop pedos from ever doing it in the future. It is not an excuse, it is science.
It all depends on what we link. Here is one blaming the brain, which actually makes much more sense.
http://phys.org/news115463842.html
QE137, yes I read the entire thing. But what I read was extremely inconclusive. There is a reason it went nowhere.
Was not meant to be rooted in blame. The point was that a genetic component is being investigated. You bulled another poster for suggesting it. I was just trying to point to the fact that since science is looking in to that possibility, it is not something to LOL at others about.
You do not have to believe it's a gene, thats cool, but it is not a whack job suggestion.
I should point out that since the research is being carried out still by many scientists around the world, it is still to early to say that this premise goes nowhere. They must rule it out and they still do not have a definitive cause for pedophile behavior.
"QE137
To an extent this behavior is genetic and it is found in EVERY animal ( including humans ) on the planet. It is a vary natural thing for male and female animals to take younger mates. Just like everything in nature, there are some animals with some overly distorted version of a natural process. It happens and as much as we like to think of our selves as different from animals, we are really not all that different."
Hey stupid no where in nature do other animal pick younger mates that are not of mating age. In case you're too stupid to know 5 for a human is below puberty and in case you don't know what puberty means it means they are not of mating age. So pedophiles are n fact way different than any other animal on earth.
There's got to be a few drunk trailer park deadbeats that know this psycho. They should be posting bulletins there to find her
Pedophiles, rapists, and probably many other types of behavior, including many not so noticed, are all part of people needing control. And that is because they felt powerless when they were younger, whether direct abuse or their view on society. The Napoleon Complex is a good example. There is nothing genetic about that. its your environment. Sure, if your dad tends to be psychotic and controlling, then you pick up on those traits. But it doesn't mean you are locked into it because of a gene.
I get so tired of people taking one very small study in Italy and calling it gospel. The study in Turin comes nowhere close to being verifyable. Nowhere!
The Lord God did not create us in this (pedophile) fashion, but the world certainly does shape us, for good or bad. To take a small study as the one in Turin, and say it's genetic...well guess all those that abuse children just couldn't help themselves. BULL!
Pedophilia is caused by another pedophile which is caused from another pedophile, and so on. It's caused by the actions and not the genes of another. 10 to 1 a pedophile is conducting that study so he can say he's not responsible.
It is disease of Trauma! Those that believe that one very small unverified study, are morons....or very likely pedophiles looking for an excuse for their wicked behavior.
to QE137....
Who made you think that you're the bully police? Disassociate is wrong, TFNJ is right.
On a science level, that one study in Turin wouldn't even be considered. But for news...lol...people like you and Disassociate without a real science background, act as if it's a done deal or at least reasonable to consider...lol...the idiocy! It's just plain stupid. To call it such is not being a bully, but speaking truth.
I can name hundreds if not thousands of current studies being done around the globe that will never make it off the lab floor. The one in Turin is a news piece for a lab that would absolutely love to get more funding. A University lab, in a country that is circling the drain, so to speak.
Do you get it now? It's called looking past that zit on the end of your nose....
TFNJ
It seems you are a scientist who has studied this with your grand sweeping statement:
"There is no pedophilia gene"
I'll ignore the naivety of the statement for now.
However just becasue something is genetic does not take blame away, the gene would explain the attraction to children but in the end there is choice. However the discovery of the gene does give rise to a possible intervention and treatment. We need to look at every possible angle and do anything we can to protect children.
Not necessarily trailer park deadbeats. Doctors, lawyers, professionals of all kinds have had this stuff found on their computers.
TFNJ: Make sure when you are on your high horse pontificating about how dumb people are, that you ask your horse to run a Google search on:
Peddle vs. Pedal.
I just LOVE the irony. Prepare to back-pedal, since it's clear you don't even know what peddle means.
Krestov, I challenge you to show me a gene that could cause Pedophilia, specifically. No I don't mean explicit sexual behavior, I mean pedophilia. I don't have to be a scientists to understand genes.
I notice you start your post with a sine remark, but end it just as all the others did. With doubt about what you are writing.
Yes we need to do something. Its called mental health.
News flash to Disassociate, QE137, and CreekDog, those that posted a link to the supposed....lol...study in Italy. The study was conducted on ONE MAN. How's that for an unbiased scientific approach...
Ok...about to bully you guys..
Are you Crazy?? Morons, idiots! please, don't speak, write or anything....did any of you even graduate high school? Let me guess, GED guys...
Harold, you just took two different replies and made them one. Way to make a fool of yourself. LOL
Your second quote is a reply to post 1.13, Paul.
I take it you can't help the others prove their point????
Just looking at her you can tell she's out of it !!
So Harold,
You're a "social liberal" and? a "Christian"? It's a bit like oil and water wouldn't you think?
I see you have a habit of calling people out, according to you, for being on their "high-horse" when through your posts....by statistics you have a very high ratio of doing exactly what you claim others to be doing.
Not the most interesting of studies, more like watching a snail make it's trail, but most certainly verifiable.
The two "different" replies came from the same person... you. I included them to paint a picture of you sitting atop your high horse. If that makes me a fool, it's by your book only.
The only point I'm trying to prove is that a person who BOASTS how intelligent they are (some here are not as stupid as you think) and how stupid others are (the stupid gene can be passed down) ...
OUGHT TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PEDAL AND PEDDLE. (which clearly, you don't)
Good day to you though. The irony of your comments genuinely made me smile. Thank you for that.
Too bad when Al Gore created the Internet he didn't think about traceability. I know they're working on it and hope the scientists find an answer soon so that this type of disgust can be stopped, not just for this victim but for all victims.
Anonymous
I see my typo now Harold, and get what post you are claiming has made your day. I guess we have dropped the conversation down to a grammar school level where if you have nothing important to add, point out a spelling mistake.
Ok fine, you enjoy that victory and enjoy your day. I have no need for that debate.
How many recipes call for both oil and water? Many of my social liberal views SMACK in the face of my Christian upbringing. Me, like many other liberals who identify themselves "Christian", wrestle with our own viewpoints sometimes. I'm pretty content with the mix. Like many good recipes, oil and water are integral components.
Spelling mistake indeed. Typo? Please. At least you now understand what back pedaling means. If you hadn't made your delivery atop your high horse, you wouldn't have earned the scorn from so many posters. Most of what you said made sense, but your delivery was so holier-than-thou that people felt compelled to call you out on that.
Phinster66, being that they pulled this out of Sweden, and gave no more details, I suspect that the feds were trolling the Darknet. They probably can't trace it.
Sure, it's genetic in the sense that it is learned behavior taught to them by their family members. It is still learned behavior, yes there is a genetic sexual drive component but that is easily misdirected to other exploits, in this case sexual activity with members of our species that have not reached sexual maturity. So from an animal, biological sense even this is deviant behavior.
From an evolutionary sense this is one of the things that separates us from 'the beasts'. Our intellectual capacity to understand the trans-mutative effect our behavior can have on other members of our species, and to have the ability to override our sexual drive to prevent harm that affect that person's adult happiness.
From an animal sense we are not genetically driven to settle down, have a healthy relationship with a mate and 'live happily ever after', but from a societal sense we are. We are currently in the throws of the intellectual evolution (since our own self awareness will prevent any visible physical evolution) that will purge our species from this 'deviant' behavior, so in another 10k years or so it will probably be gone.
Patience. In the mean time lock the deviants up and prevent their procreating. That will hasten the evolution.
My delivery is effective Harold, whether you like it or not. It may seem harsh, but a truth is a truth, no matter how it's said.
And I hope you aren't thinking that you pointing out a spelling error is that meaningful to me, as to regret being scorned... LOL Oh no what do I do!
Nature versus nurture. It's an ongoing debate. When it comes to all of human behavior, it is usually how nurture impacts nature. But regardless of what science may one day reveal, one thing is true : People can't help what happened to them as a child, but once they are adults, they are responsible for their own actions, including going and getting therapy for issues, joining support groups to learn and encourage healthy coping skills and behavior, educating themselves, and AND avoiding slippery situations. Example: alcoholics avoiding working at a beer brewery, chocoholics avoid working at a Hershey's factory, Gamblers Anonymous avoiding casinos. What I am trying to say here, is that even if it turns out that some pedophilia is genetic, there is no excuse for acting out on it! It is quite well known how destructive pedophilia is on children and that society will come down HARD on pedophiles which is as it should be! Pedophiles MUST be kept away from children and if one is caught, then society must do the job that the pedophile did not--isolate the pedophile from children. Where knowing if its genetic would really help is that gene therapy could be made available to a human before the defective gene ever has a chance to manifest itself. I'm not saying that a gene is the only reason for pedophilia, but it is worth looking into to determine if it can be one of the factors in some pedophilia cases.
A third possibility besides genes, or childhood trauma--drug abuse can and does contribute in a subset of drug abusers, particularly meth and coke-- which takes people places they would never go if clean/sober. It's still a small subset, but it is definitely there!
Everyone is so convinced this woman is a pedophile by genetic disposition or through learned behavior. Here's an out-of-the-box thought. She's just a pornographer, blinded by greed, addicted to drugs, and in need of money, LOTS of money.
Is she having sex with a child because she's a true pedophile who desires it? Or is she filming herself having sex with a child because she knows how much value those types of videos have in the black market?
It's very possible that if she if wasn't selling the movies shes making, she wouldn't be having sex with children. Allegedly, there a lot of straight men who do gay porn because the money is so good. Does that make them homosexual, or just a greedy sex worker? Is this woman a pedophile (obviously she is legally), or just a greedy sex worker?
She's still a sicko who deserves full punishment. But I believe she's more a sociopath than a pedophile. Stop looking for some learned behavior in her past or genetic component. She's just a greedy scumbag who is so blinded by her addictions that she would compromise a kid for more cash flow.
Biker: When we speak of a genetic trait, we are not speaking of some behavior that we learn from our family. A genetic trait, behavioral and otherwise, is a trait that is part of our chemical composition at birth.
The argument that pedophilia is genetic has not been proven. No one has isolated the "pedophilia gene." For that matter, no one has isolated the "gay gene."
Still, the argument is intriguing. Perhaps many forms of deviance are the result of some genetic mutation that exists in some people, but not in others. Perhaps one day we will be able to cure pedophiles, homosexuals, serial rapists, and even serial killers simply by injecting them with some specialized genetic material that corrects their particular genetic affliction.
Devil's Son,
Where did you copy and paste that line of nonsense from?
A family member is 6'4", in great shape, a very high IQ (we're talking brilliant) no head injuries till he had a climbing ice axe go into his head while on an ice wall when in his 30's, has social personality disorder which expresses itself through sexual behavior mostly to those that are young. He's almost 70 now, 16 yrs older than I. He has left a trail of destruction in his path. He learned it from his mother and she from one of her mother's multiple husbands.
Some, though few, have recovered through hard work and therapy to live a joyful life. Others have become drunks, drug addicts, lesbians that steal others kids, and a hermit that ran to rural Alaska to climb and seperate herself from the lot of them.
So those of you that make a lot of claims and cite ridiculous articles, until you've survived the bowels of hell, you don't get to have a say that means anything to those of us that have survived. And even though my sister is still living, you would never know it, she is but a shadow of what she could have been....
Nothing Genetic about it. It's called Trauma.
Does it matter at the moment why or even if this woman is a pedophile?
For all we know, she's not a pedophile at all, just someone who discovered she could make a lot of money by producing child pornography and selling it.
She needs to be identified, caught and locked up. Her psychological issues can be dealt with later. An innocent child is involved and his/her safety is paramount.
TFNJ
I am sure you meant snide remark, but anyway....
If you care to take a look you made a definitive statement saying there is no gene for pedophilia, therefore you must have carried out the research and discovered there is no gene to be able to make such a sweeping statement.
Bob,
For humans to think that they could inject someone with some miracle juice to take away the wickedness that lives in them...
is pure unadulterated Folly.
Humans are stupid, they return to their folly like a dog to it's vomit. They think they can try to play G_d without suffering the consequences. Just look at this world...time is short.
The Only One that Could affect Any change in anyone, Is ChristJesus.
Its a fools errand to think you can look at our genes and find one that relates directly to pedophilia. There are genes that affect our behavior, yes. Genes for Autism and other problems that lead to either behavior or emotional issues. But directly to pedophilia, no. There won't be anything that specific.
Environment is the key. Take a pedophile's son or daughter out of his home early and raise him in a proper environment and poof, the mystery gene disappears.
I don't know devil's son, there is still absolutely no way to tell if brain structure differences occurred due to the learned behavior (VERY possible), or that the intellectual shortcomings are additional side effects of the abuse, etc. which is very likely.
And while there may be certain vague biological differences that can contribute to a person being more predisposed to a behavior, the behavior is still learned. They just might be better at it than the next person. Like when a gifted athlete crosses their exceptional biological gifts with a burning desire to win at the very sport they are predisposed to, they prove to be unbeatable.
And Thanks Bob-1104279, or shall I say captain obvious?
TFNJ, I think you got a problem, a denial problem. Are members of your family relations pedophilia? If so and you are blood related to them I advise you to not have children lest you want to bring into this world potential future pedophiles. Further, FYI since your the real idiot.
Paul-1630589 sprewed:
You are either dumb or stupid or in denial or all of the three.
Northernclimbs, It's just something I found on wiki. I don't know if pedophilia can be caused by genetics. I suspect it could be a factor, I guess. Just like other mental diseases can be genetic or at least have a genetic predisposition. A person can have the mental defect that causes pedophilia and never act on it. Just like people that are schizoid don't have to listen to the voices in their heads. Unless there is a physical trigger. I suspect it takes a number of factors. In some cultures having sex with the young is not looked on as bad.
let's assume there is a genetic component, im not sure that "treatment" makes sense.
we know how our western medicine works, and it'll only work on some...while others it wont work on.
here's a thought - if you are attracted to children, and think you're going to act out on that - grab a gun, load a bullet, and point that gun at your head.
and please, do the world a favor and just exit, stage right.
you need not destroy a childs soul because you lost the genetic lottery.
There is no cure for genetic problems, today, and the only genetic problems we know of are medical ones. No behavioral issues have genetic connections, apart from side affects of the medical conditions.
I think that you are harder on her than a lot of sexual abuse victims might be. There needs to be serious consequences.
She needs to endure enough suffering that it prevents her from reoffending, obviously.
Long drop short rope, that is the only way to prevent her from ever re-offending.
So what a lot of people are victims of something bad or are victims of a scumbag and most have not gone out and committed crimes because of it.
Obama wants plans by January to fix gun violence, why not work on the real issue mentally disturbed people, like this freak. Three strikes my large fuzzy butt, we see these kind of animals with 10-12 strikes and they are out on the street doing it again. Over crowding, not a problem just hang the worst of them before they see a jail cell, thieves cut off a hand, violent criminals get one and done, that should reduce crime by 50% or more, well at least repeat offenders wouldn't be much a problem anymore.
Well, I know a few victims, and I don't think they would ever wish that on a one-time offense if the person was a victim themselves. But I think that applies more to female offenders than males.
I tend to view male offenders with a greater contempt. If it was a male I would probably agree with you.
Now to my next point. You know that in the Old Testament a plague hit the house of Israel, and a priest knew what a lot of people didn't. There was an Israelite sleeping, committing fornication with a non-Israelite woman. He grabbed a speared and impaled them in their bed, and the plague lifted.
An unrepentant fornicator has no business calling for this woman's death if she was victimized as a child, never identified, or counseled. Especially if this was a one time offense. In fact I would guess that the only type of person who would call for her death according to Old Testament rules is probably just as deserving of the sentence you are calling for on her head, ie, a fornicator who has not abandoned transgressions which are worthy of death.
Only people engaged in sins worthy of death would call for her death.
I have seen that face, I am being very real. does anyone remember a video of a girl pushing a nokia cell phone out of her vagina, thats her. does anyone know who that girl is?
How much I get if I find her??? You know $$$$ for info, reward type of stuff. If nothing..good luck finding her..you get paid for that.
There have been pedophiles that have been cured. Ted Bundy, John Wayne Gacy, Jeffery Dahmer have all been cured. Stop making excuses for these vile pieces of human filth. Execute them in public after their 1st time guilty verdict. Our society must exterminate these vermin that pray on children, including this woman. I hope someone does know her and causes her to cease to exist. We kave let law-enforcement try to solve our problems, we need to take matters into our own hands once again.
NorthernClimbs
You wrote
The Only One that Could affect Any change in anyone, Is ChristJesus
I respect any one's choice to practice their religion, but if you think that people can pray away being a pedophile, then you are way off base. Most people who resort to abuse and violation of those who are helpless lack a basic feeling of empathy for those that they commit their crimes against. Trying to teach them to love (as Jesus did) will not be effective. The fear of retribution if caught is what may deter some, but the desire to commit the act does not go away. There is a big difference between believing something based alone on faith, and accepting facts that are scientifically proven.
Off topic (my apologies to the others on this thread), but why do you omit the o in G-d? If you are trying to do so because of the erroneous belief that is what was taught in the Mosaic tradition, it is false.
I just talked to Spock, and he said that's not logical.
To make two opposing statements in the same sentence.
Is it genetic or victimization that is not identified because the child was too young to know what happened was a violation of morals, ethics, and the law and failure to counsel because no one knew because maybe the child never said anything.
And then you have personality disorders. Sociopaths will pass on abuse. Empaths will not. They will endure abuse and then not use that as an excuse to offend someone else or hurt their feelings, intimidate them, etc.
Spammer!
Go sell crazy somewhere else. :)
We're all stocked up here.
TFNJ
Your ignorance on genetics and its basis in behavior astounds me. Our traits are associated with behavior, sexuality is linked to genes.
Just stop you are embarrassing yourself and other.
Dissociate is one of a group of people who beleive that pedophiles should be treated as a separate group who lack their civil rights.
Dissociate is also one of a group of people who make a noise like a bunch of loose screws rattling around when they shake their heads. Which is still another group that could petition for civil rights.
This female perp looks very familiar and I think that she may have lived in the Eastern Suburbs of Pittsburgh and I am going to post it on my Twitter Page.
You really should call that number if you think she's that familiar. Every lead will help catch this trash.
Or ICE website
Report it to the police, not the internet. FFS.
LOL "Twitter page." Good for you, helper.
She looks familiar because she looks like Casey Anthony...
Do the police, FBI, or ICE follow you on twitter??? CALL THEM! Don't worry about being wrong, let the authorities figure that out.
Boy do I have some sinister ideas to administer to this disgusting bitch if they catch her......
So, it's a Lesbian kiddie porn vid. Where is the screaming outrage from the Lesbian community? Or the LGBT community in general for that matter? After all, it is precisely this sort of thing that the "homophobes" are so worried about..........sounds to me like the perfect time to launch a serious PR campaign to find this person and haul them in and save this poor kid.
*IF*, of course, this 'community' isn't like the Islam community..........silent and refusing to condemn even the most horrific of acts............ or is NAMBLA really *NOT* an anomaly among them?
Sitting back and watching with serious curiosity..................
What are you even talking about? First, they didn't give a gender, and second... do straight people condemn the vast majority of child molesters who are straight?
We're all human, and we're all opposed to child abuse. Bringing your personal politics into this is disgusting.
I expect you John to come out against EVERY criminal act committed by an heterosexual.
You would not do anything else of course, since you expect that much of others.
Or you might start using that thing that uselessly sit atop your neck.
John, I am sorry to say but you are an idiot, all over the place, insulating everyone in your path that has nothing to do with this except nambla. Idiot...
John, you disgust me on so many levels it is hard to fathom how you could get so much not only offensive items into your post, but how absolutely wrong you are regarding them. No where in this article or the ICE website does the gender of the child appear, so how the hell do you get it is "Lesbian" child porn? Obviously out of your own sick and twisted mind. As to your maligning of the Islamic community, do some research, the FBI has noted that they receive the most, and best tips from within that community as they are disgusted by what a small minority of religulous fanatics will do in the name of the God of Abraham (yes, Allah is the same deity that Jews and Christians worship - Allah just means "The Lord").
It goes without saying, but since it appears you don't get things unless pointed out directly to you, that you have been reported. Such open and rampant hate has no place in these forums, and is against the code of conduct. I wish you well and hope and pray you get some help with your irrational hatred toward fellow human beings, sir, along with correcting your willful ignorance in this, the Information Age.
John
Make a assumption it makes an @$$ out of you and Umption---No gender was given--for the hard of thinking, as you seem to be boys and be molested too.
Gaskill - how about doing what your name suggests to yourself. Like Tailor, Shoemaker, etc...
John is a troll.
Ignore him.
He would post the same trash if it were a story about money laundering or vehicle theft.
The air in his mom's basement is probably filled with toxic mold.
Hey dumbass where did it say the victim was a female child?
You are sick.
Went back to re-read the article, as I missed the mention of the victim's gender. Nope, didn't miss it, it wasn't mentioned. Just another opportunity to spew your hate and bigotry, John Gaskill? You should at least try to stay on subject (that does enough to prove your ignorance), rather than bring in unrelated issues to prove your bigotry.
Troll alert. Monitors, where are you?
To all of you bashing John Gaskill, the guy does make two valid points. The first one is where is the outrage from the LGBTTIQ community on this issue? If they truly did not like what had happened, then why have they not stepped forward and blatantly condemned the action? The second one is spot on, too. The lack of a response on their part must mean that, to some degree that they are either complicit and/or aiding and abetting a known fugitive from justice and that they are utilizing some sort of wall or code of silence to protect her. I also would not doubt that there is a female equivalent of NAMBLA somewhere in this world that is taking actions to support her as well but trying to find out who or what it is will be tricky as they have done a far better job of covering their tracks than the rather amateurish NAMBLA has done. You all talk about bigotry and prejudice, yet you promote it all the more due to the ways that you think. Finally, as NorthernClimbs said, just as there is no real proof of pedophilia being genetic in origin, the same is true about heterophobia, that is homosexuality. Anyone that argues otherwise is guilty of using payola, extortion, racqueteering, utilizing fraudulent and deceptive practices, slander, libel, defamation of character, graft, corruption, conspiracy to do the same, and violating the RICO Act, the USA PATRIOT Act, and other similar legislation. I also would not doubt that they were guilty of committing conspiracy to commit acts of terrorism, utilizing biological agents, committing war crimes against humanity, committing humanicide, committing genocide of the human race, and being in illegal possession of weapons of mass destruction. Of course, they naturally have the courts on their side and they do it so well that it could never be proven in a court of law, and not certainly the least of the problems being that they have everyone in their pockets that range from the judges to various legislators and other monetarily, politically, and educationally influenced people under their thumbs and in their pockets.
You my friend sound about as smart as a base jumper without a parachute....Ignorance at it's finest.
I totally agree. 2/3 of male pedophiles are homosexual. The LGBT community should be the first ones to denounce this type of behavior, except for one thing. The LGBT community is totally accepting of this type of behavior.
*citation needed
Does she speak in tongues? She is an American, I would guess she speaks English.
The article states that "authorities believe she lives in the United States". That is all it states. You are the one that is interpreting that she is an English speaking American.
takenaka, while she probably does speak English, different areas of the country speak with a dialect/tone etc that is particular to the area they live or grew up in. I live in upstate NY but have a twinge of midwest (where I grew up) and a little southern (from living with my mom). Making a distinction between the areas of the country could go a long way to identifying where she might live.
Needle in a haystack. Good luck with that.
Not true..this worked a couple of months ago when a woman and her husband (not the kids father) spread videos of them abusing her young children on the internet...ICE posted their pics... had their asses in cuffs within a month
"needle in a haystack"
That would have been true in the days before the internet. When the word "viral" still was still only used in the medical profession.
Not at all. Any internet news winds up getting shared with millions of people.
"Needle in a haystack. Good luck with that."
Look up a video on a case called "The Hunt for Mr. Swirl." This woman is as good as caught.
Hummmmmmmmmmmmmm "She's Toast!" ... It won't be long before shes in the hands of the law!
In a contemporary world ... she has become recognizable to the population of the entire planet ..
The internet can accomplish in days what no amount of individual effort could accomplish in years ..
Needle in a haystack all right--with the internet a great big magnet! Yep, won't take long.....
Let's hope you all are right and she's found sooner than later.
I think though, that everyone assumes she is in some home in America and on the outside leading a normal life. So all we have to do is identify her. But she could very well be in Mexico or Russia as some sex slave, and in that case no one will report it.
When people are found guilty, and there is no doubt of guilt, they should be allowed to administer a truth drug to find out who else is involved in these types of crimes. The same could be applied to other types of crimes, when they are found guilty take their right to silence away from them to get information to help track down others. We should use any and all means to stop this from happening to other children. One case comes to mind is Ted Bundy, He should not have been allowed to take his secretes to the grave. and many others who, they could have gotten information from to help fight crime.
No doubt of guilt---you mean like the guy a few years back convicted by DNA evidence and it turned out his twin brother later confessed. Or the guy who was identified for robbing a bank in Denver a few years back as a local business man by several people based on photos. The real crook had fled to Hawaii and after seeing that an innocent man was about to take the fall he cane back and confessed. Luckily for the business man because the resemblance based on the photos, shown after the story broke, of the two men was uncanny. If the guy had been convicted most would not have doubted his guilt. That is why our system is based on reasonable doubt, not no doubt, it does not always workand while the news and TV makes you think we let murderers and rapists go every day that is just not true. Flawed at times, sure but it's better than most anything any other country in the world has. Imagine the law suit if your truth drugs had been used on the guys above, "oops sorry but there was no doubt" just doesn't cut it in my book. I don't advocate coddling criminals and yes we could use some reforms but I don't think that is one of them.
Good point UMM.
And Dale, there is no truth drug. Sodium pentothal is only a barbiturate that lowers inhibitions and is used in some lethal injection executions. It just makes you loos (or dead, given the dose). All kinds of tests show that it is still totally possible to lie while under the stuff.
If only we had that police force in that Tom Cruise movie...
pssst Dale Truth drugs" are only in the movies
As time goes by and we study more parts of the human body, and more importantly the human brain, we are finding and identifying genes that cause many "odd behaviors" and disease (like the breast cancer gene). So, one such research project here has made some leadway on identifying a gene that inidacates a much higher probability that one with be a pedophile.
This by No means an excuse to act on it; but it Does show that there likely IS a gene that causes pedophelia!
There ya go TFNJ. You should do at least a little research before you go calling others liars or accuse them of posting "bull crap". I am about to recieve my Master's Degree is Psychology, so I can assure you, this information isn't "bull crap". You should go to college!
Did part of your GRE training include a subject on how to be condescending? You may not be first choice when I am looking for a psychologist. I would expect my psychologist to be a little less abrasive when pointing out my maladies.
Whether it is genetic or not. (Which is hard to believe.) These "people" still have free will and must be able to tell right from wrong. Just like anyone else who finds themselves attracted to someone who they should be leaving alone. If not, then they need to be executed. Our children have suffered enough at the hands of monsters like this.
Lots of people have been to college, and some of them majored in fields that are even more demanding than Psychology.
You speak with such conviction, but you really don't say much. Saying that you are aware of a research project that has "made some headway in identifying a gene that indicates a much higher probability that one will be a pedophile" is a far cry from saying that we have isolated the "pedophilia gene."
I'm sure that many people are studying this issue, and no doubt many of them have "made headway." Still, research is an ongoing process, and it is common today for a new study to be revealed that reverses everything that we knew, or thought that we knew, about a particular topic. This is particularly true in a rapidly growing field like genetics.
You make an interesting argument. Perhaps many forms of behavioral deviance are caused by some genetic mutation that could be cured by simply injecting the subject with some specialized form of genetic material.
Congratulations on your academic accomplishment, but please don't wave your degree in the air. It's unbecoming.
You have pretty much proved your little paper degree is about as valuable as the notepad in my hand. Somehow you feel your being called Psych Major 4 online serves as proof of anything we are discussing here.
As a matter of fact, if someone walked up to you and said they were compelled to sexually abuse children, would gene research be your recommended therapy? Or would it be medication with counceling? And if so, why would medication work if the problem is in a gene? You have inserted yourself into the conversation,and proved nothing except that a novice like me can come to the same conclusions.
FYI, I know a few people with Psych degrees. I won't cut it down, but good luck with your career.
Well, since we are throwing degrees around, I'll see your "about to be received" master in psychology, and raise you my doctorate in same. Clinical to be specific.
Now, let me correct your misinformation. There has been no gene identified that is responsible for a predisposition to deviant behavior such as pedophilia. It is not "probable" that there is one, and it is not even in the realm of researchable possibility at this point in time.
The brain differences cited in several sexual behavior research are not necessarily of genetic origin. You appear to be confused regarding what is genetic and what can be attributed to environmental causes, both intra- and extra-uterine.
Your example of the breast cancer gene is a predisposing gene only. Whether that predispositon actually manifests as a disease process is completely dependent upon environmental interaction between that predisposition and environmental factors related specifically to the individual. Predisposition increases risk only.
Re: your suggestion of others doing their research: I'd suggest you improve your own skills in that particular area, and spend a great deal more time attending to your undergraduate studies before even attempting the GRE that would gain admittance into a graduate program of study. I can see by your writing that passing the GRE would be an impossibility for you at this time. Good luck with your learning. Just don't get so impressed with yourself that you attempt to present yourself as that which you are not.
Catch this Piece of isht and save the innocent kid. No mercy for this perv...
what a sick piece of crap, I hope they find her and put her in jail for the rest of her life
"...a woman suspected of producing a child porn video - as well as a young victim who appears in it." So, she's the mother of the child in the video?
But picking on the poor grammar aside, more information would be helpful, like are we looking for a woman accompanied by a 4-5 year old male or female? Any info about the child's appearance such as color of skin or hair at least?
There is no grammatical mistake there. I see what you're implying, but the sentence simply has two objects that police are looking for: the "woman", and the "young victim". The kind of misleading sentence you're alluding to annoys the heck out of me, too, when I see one. This isn't one.
They may not know if the child is hers. There could be any number of possible relationships between the woman and the child. A step child, possibly, a younger sister, etc.
I agree that they could have described the child as well.
I hope and pray they catch this monster. But she doesn't need a trial to prove she's guilty! She's on the video doing this vile act. Just throw her in prison when she's caught!
to be far you don't' know if someone off camera was pointing a gun at her or holding her own child as a treat if she didn't act in the movie. So she may be on film but she may also be a victim herself. The people that make these movies aren't saints you know.
I would guess the women would have her video recorder on a tripod, so there may not be a third party. Just a thought.
Thats the point we don't know anything about the women or the making of the video, and even with a tripod there could be someone else controlling the situation. She could just as easily be a victim or not but it is unknown at this point. Lynching someone based on a half baked story with limited details seems just as bad to me. She could be evil or be a victim, She could have made the video or she could have been made to make it. If she was a victim her life is now in serious danger not only from you here that would lynch her with no detail but also from the people that could have possibly been controlling/forcing her to preform.
I wouldn't be surprised that they identify her but she is missing, forever.
If she did it she deserves the worse the legal system has to offer her but as of right now this is nothing more than a modern day lynching.
Let's hope that mole on her thigh turns out to be cancerous.
We need a picture of it. It might help to find her.
There's a picture of her mole on the ICE website.
Why is this not a top story? This is a 4-5 year old child being molested. Its disgusting and we need to save this child from these sickos. this should be a headlining story!! There shouldn't be one more day of torture for this innocent being. I hopr they find her in Texas, we don't mess around here, we will put your sorry ass to sleep.
Well, that narrows it down.
Yeah, they're making it almost too easy lol
Somewhere out there someone knows this trash, The word if here does not apply .... As they would not or even could not make such an accusation such as this without have her ass in a sling, That would be their job and career , Lets just hope one of her friends does the right thing here. What a sicko
This woman deserves to be shot. Furthermore she looks like every other middle aged woman in their 20's so really if you want to identify her find her on facebook. Post a picure stating looking for heror something. Seriously, this is appalling and I cannot imagen what this child is going through.
lol middle age isn't the 20's and they are posting pictures duh see the one one this site on the ICE site and I'm sure there are others. And while she may be on the video she could actually be a victim also so don't be so quick to judge.
Middle age is now the 20's??!? WTF
Then I must be ready for that Boca Vista Florida retirement.
Hell I guess I missed my retirement completely then. I guess I get to go right to dead when I do finally retire. Bummer.
LOL I guess 20 is middle age if the poster was 3? :-)
I think Melanie meant that she looks like any middle-aged woman now who WAS in her 20s - that she almost looks like any woman out there, especially 20-30 years ago.
These demented perverts turn my stomach.
This woman could be working as a nanny. If this woman looks familiar just call the police and don't post it on a social network.
She could also be a sex slave victim herself. She doesn't look very happy in those pictures which I assume were taking from the video. If she is a victim herself she could very well be dead very soon now that these pictures are out. So don't be surprised if they never find her.
I wonder what the woman is thinking, in her sick sick mind, to try to justify what she is doing to the child. That woman has got to be put away for a long long time. Perhaps someone can make her see how evil and demented it is, to involve such a small child in these things. Pray that the child can recover and lead a normal life.......what memories to have to carry. Where are these monsters, who harm the most defenseless of our society, coming from? What is producing them in our society? Some questions we must ask ourselves, in order to try to stop whatever are the things influencing people to harm the children. Hurry, someone, and make your report to the police. Get that lady off the streets, and the child into safety.
Why is everyone missing this possibility?
She may also be a victim.
TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT!
Absolutely not. The question is how old was she if she was a victim, and was she ever identified and received counseling. And you can place your money on the bet that she was never identified and counseled otherwise she wouldn't have acted upon how an authority figure taught her to engage in felony sexual conduct.
Didn't say it made it right but your anger may be misplaced. I also didn't mean a victim of child abuse in her younger years. I meant she could have been forced to do the video through violence or other means. She could be held by some other perverted sicko in his basement who is doing what he wants with her and some kid he may also have locked up. Yes its has happened in the past so no reason it couldn't be happening here. So instead of this lynching how about waiting until you actually know some real "facts" about the case?
While she may have done this on her own, statically women do not do this sort of sex crime by a LARGE percentage.
So if this was/is the case would you still demand her death?
Show me some facts that show she did this on her own, even if she was abused as a child, and I'll throw the rope over the tree limb for the hanging, but until then I'll wait and see before demanding her head.
Guess I weird that way.
Excuses...
Mr. X.....of all the stupid assinine comments to make, when others are trying to be serious. Wherever she ranks, you are right there next to her. If you can't contribute something useful to a serious conversation, then SHUT UP!!!!!
hike: Boy, you're right. After I read your post, I went back and looked at Mr X's post. Not much shocks me, but I actually became light headed when I read his trash. I can only hope that his comment was an extremely poor attempt at humor.
She is probably an addict. She may well have been threatened to get her to do whatever it is. It is very hard to say without finding out detail, but pimps know it is easy to get women to do almost anything. All they have to do is get them addicted and/or threaten to hurt them. Lots of women will fold then.
Wow...what a hottie...shame she is involved with this stuff...I would have loved making a video with her. :-)
Yeah, she's alright isn't she..
You guys need to get out more...she looks stump stupid or drugged. Maybe that's the way you like em tho...
Hell yeah..
Stump stupid just like TFNJ!
Good one, in a child like way.
I think it's you, Whiskey, that needs to get out more...obviously the picture has been cropped from the original where I'm sure she is nude and has her hands on her breasts...getting off... wish I could see the whole picture (minus any kiddie porn) To me she has a "come and f#*k me" look.
I don't know about you but what I'd do to that after a six pack....weeee doggieees!
That would be right after they pried you off of Granny and Elly Mae, eh,
Jed Clampett,Jerry?Can't help but laugh that a couple of people above posted that her looks were appealing, and some of you are offended and outraged. What difference does it make if someone says she looks good? Explain that one to me..
Shut the @!$%# up and masturbate.
TFNJ, If you don't "get it," what is being done by this woman.....who cares what she looks like? Have you gotten so sick-in-your-mind yourself, that you think it's "OK" to say whatever, when what is being discussed is a small child being used by this screwed up lady. This lady is a predator, and she preys on those who are the least likely to be able to defend themselves. And you say...."what difference.....?" Put yourself right in the same catagory as Mr. X.....all of you are lowlifes......disgusting......crawl back under the rock you came out from under. You are a part of the problem.
I think I can be helpful in looking at her and see if I know her. I think I can look at her picture, and if I see her report it.
But I can also separate myself from the news I read and not get all frantic, such as the behavior you are demonstrating with the name calling.
You are what keeps silly reality shows alive, because you take things way too personal. You are not here to tell anyone what their morals should be or what to post. If you don't agree with it, move on. If you truly feel that you are going to change people by posting your silly replies, then good luck with that. But if you take very news story this personal and get this worked up, I fear for your future.
And she does look good...
Oh, and more news for you. Things like what you read in this story happens every day, many times, all over the world. Just because you have been comforted by your American life, doesn't mean this is something new. If you are that concerened, get involved and join a group looking to stop child abuse. But stop acting like you are high and mighty.
Wonder how many doses of reality you can take..
hikeinmts, I object to you calling her a Lady. All ladies are women, but not all women are ladies. There's a huge difference.
Please, don't prod him/her into another never ending rant.
I fear its.. "him"
This perv chick has one really big thing in her favor when it comes to remaining unidentified. I have rarely seen a more average looking female. She has one of those faces that can probably be found in just about any community, very "girl next door-ish". It might be interesting to follow this closely just to see how many innocent look alike women get pulled in to their local PDs on suspicion of being her. I'm sure they'll have her in custody within the next month at the latest though. One of her family or friends will see this and any follow up articles and will turn her in- especially if there is a nice fat monetary reward to go along with her arrest. At that point I'm sure the world will be treated to her story of early sexual abuse, adding a new element of titillation to this story and quite possibly also an element of sympathy for the poor abused perpetrator. We can count on the news media to play this story up from whatever angle possible to milk it for every last possible penny or rating point.
All in all, she would have been a lot better off doing the same thing as every other female- a) finding a sexual partner of age (male or female), b) investing a few dollars in a vibrator or dildo, or c) do both a and b. Its a pity she had to involve that small child in her sexual needs. Lets hope that she doesn't use the Linda Lovelace Deep Throat defense ( they were pointing gun at me off camera!).
You are right, she was probably abused herself, and history is repeating itself.
I think you guys are missing the whole point behind her motivation to do this, which would be, you guessed it, $$$$$$
Yeah, but while true, she must also be mentally scarred to go through with it.
Her eyes look completely dead. I hop they find this disgusting creature.