Kelly is 100% correct about Columbine ...

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2012/12/21/columbine_armed_guard_colorado_shooting_shows_that_nra_s_shield_program.html

I found it amazing that LaPierre was bragging about his research and finding some 10 year old game on the internet about kindergarten killings that some gamer probably made up on his own yet couldn't remember that there was an armed guard at Columbine. Maybe he meant to say armed guards that don't eat or use the restroom?

I'd also wonder (as another poster did today) about all of those ex-officers, military, etc., that are floating around and need work. Should we put people with PTSD in a school with a gun?

When I was in High School we had a cop with a gun back in the late 70's..

But really, what ever this guy would have said was going to be wrong.

@FormerMarineSgt

I found your comment (about LaPierre) interesting (probably becaused I agree with it). I, like you, am a gun owner and enthusiast. I am even a member of the NRA. However, I don't agree with their (especially LaPierre's) extreme views. During the past two elections, I cringed each month when the monthly issue of the NRA magazine arrived in the mailbox when discovering what was being *spewed* about how you should vote for the Republican candidate simply because Obama's mission was to disarm everyone.

tomthum: you really, really need to loosen the screws on your Tinfoil hat. I sure hope the nice people in the white suits don't let you within a mile of a gun.

Video games and movies? Talk about scape-goat! The NRA is wayyy off. Think of how many people play violent video games daily or watch violent movies then think about the extremely small minority of people that shoot up schools etc. If there was a correlation it should be much stronger than that. Video games and movies are merely a reflection of society, it doesn't make society. Various variables come into play in any public shooting and everyone is trying to find someone or something to blame. Sadly i think the only person to blame is the killer and there is no easy way to legislate change necessary to keep this from happening. Sure you can tighten gun control laws but like in this situation, the guns were purchased by someone law-abiding and were STOLEN. I don't know where to start i admit, but i think these situations have more variables than people want to acknowledge. One thing i do know, this monster has a special spot in hell for all eternity.

First question for everyone here and who has some opinion on this. I am a police officer have been now for 27 years. Do we want to keep the kids safe or have a gun ban? First of all there are no amount of gun laws that will stop people from killing people. I agree there should be armed security in every school trained to deal with an active shooter. Being there when the shooting starts and intervening is the best way to save lives. 30 rds vs 10 rds rifle shotgun pistol loosing one child is way to much. So you want gun control or do you want to keep kids safe. People forget Columbine happened right in the middle of an assault rifle and high mag cap ban. I don't think anyone who was there would tell you that those laws made any difference. Sorry folks you can beat me up say what you want but I make these points from first hand experience. After Columbine I started teaching officers how to respond to a shooter in the schools work place or mass shootings. The time getting there is always the critical factor. Just think if the officer was already there! So do we want our kids to be safe or do we want gun control? Unfortunately people falsely think that banning certain weapons will stop this. I can tell you that would be a no. So the next time this happens gun control or not and there is no one there to stop it are we going to blame the people who say no armed gaurds in the schools. One death is unacceptable.

With a little under 99,000 public schools in the U.S. and figuring a couple new guns for each one at an average price of only $400.00 you get increased gun sales of over 79 million dollars along with the militarization of the public school system.... Not a bad scam if you represent no one but the gun lobby...

And the problem is you ignorant people will NOT take on your own responsibilities. We are the ones that have to teach our young to get along with others. We are the ones that have to teach our young to be RESPECTFUL of others. We are the ones that have to teach our children to NOT KILL OTHERS.

This has nothing to do with any type of gun. It was a semi automatic, one 1 round per pull of the trigger same as many other rifles, this one happened to have some dressing on it, the dressing did not make it shoot faster than any other semi automatic. These type of situations can only be stopped with the same force. To do nothing but wait till the person runs out of ammo or he decides to kill himself. That is wasting our precious children and other peoples lives.

America is one sick country!

It is not the "clips", it is not the guns, it is not the police.

It is a society (including the media) that breeds violence, lives off violence and teaches violence.

You reap what you sow America

NRA definitely missed the ball on this one, as it is just another knee jerk reactionary response to one of many atrocities that have occurred in our country. We don't need more police in our schools, as it only perpetuates and instills in our young that government is a police state! Obey us!!!!What size school do we stop placing these armed guards at? There are many rural schools that are so small that would have to choose between a teacher and that guard! It reminds me of all our airports getting fenced in because of 9-11, I live in a very remote part of our country and it is always amazing as I drive by these feced rural airports in towns with approx. 2000 populations, gates open.What a waste of money overall! We ban teachers from bringing weapons to school with them. How would this atrocity have played out if there was a teacher who was properly trained on their weapon and was able to defend themselves? What would the frame of mind be of the attacker, not knowing, who might be carrying a weapon! The attackers frame of mind is the actual point here, as our government in its infinite wisdom has allowed individuals with mental issues, to be able to make their own decisions under the guise of freedom of choice. They no longer want to take medication, want to live on the street, and no longer want medical treatment! These people are diagnosed or should be if there is a mental issue, and are thereby unable to make sound decisions! In reality a way to save government monies from the hospitalization and treatment of these individuals. Yes, there are numerous classifications under DSM that do not have violence attributed to them. Then there are ones that do have violent tendencies and doesn't the government not have the duty to keep all citizens safe, from others and from themselves?! We have raised our awareness so much that we should be able to rely on Doctors, advocates, family and friends,to be insured that these individuals are receiving the help they need. I currently am not an owner of a weapon, but do believe that we should be able to own one and defend ourselves. I do believe that we should also have backgroud checks of all sales of weapons, and that all people who own weapons should be trained in the proper use of weapons and receive their concealed weapons permit at the end of that training{ the unfortunate part to that is you have a DeFacto registration list of all potential gunholders}! Yes, I am now planning on owning a weapon again and getting my concealed weapons permit to protect myself and others in the event I am involved in one of these atrocities. A former vet that had a secondary mos of 76y30-armorer.

Genenut

Do some research, you are not allowed to carry guns on FT. Hood unless you are an MP.

here's how...JOE BIDEN...pass a law...no gun's can be used by people wanting to harm school kids...that should make everybody happy...

@formermarine sgt

Bzzzzzzzzzzz. Wrong answer. The vast majority 90%+ of mass shootings have occurred in "Gun Free Zone" or areas where guns are prohibited by statute or owner policy. If these were just "random" acts then the percentage of shootings at protected sites would be around 50%, not 90+ %. These sites are obviously chosen due to the fact that there are many people there that is sometimes modified by the shooters particular bias. This is simple logical deduction, based on facts. One can not have a "Mass Shooting" in an area where many people are not present. Then it would just be a murder or two.

Your last line is perfect, the only problem is that not everyone can do it and no one can do it completely. If you don't believe me, check the statistics. Every school, by Federal Law is and has been a "Gun Free Zone" since the Federal Gun Control Act of the 1960's!

I freely admit my bias, I am anti gun control, beyond the current state of affairs. It is illogical and idiotic to believe that passing a law will some how make every weapon, of any type disappear from this country. Worked real well on the drug war and prohibition. Therefore, if you can not prevent the crazies from getting a deadly weapon, then you had better be able to physically stop them. The only way is to have someone there with a preferrably comparable weapon, to kill the S.O.B. before they can act. Armed security of the level of DOD Nuclear Protection Officer's is a better choice than police officers. Additionally, allowing trained employees and cleared civilians to carry weapons would also help.

The Israelis sufferred numerous school massacres from Palestenians in the late 60's and 70's. They implemented the above plan and successful mass shootings in public places has become non existant. Some have tried but the death toll has been limited by the on scene personnel or citizens.

responsible gun owner's keep gun's locked up so the children or child no matter what age can not play

with them ,and if the children do get into them there is a law already on the book's to deal with that .

so they should be ready for all those parent's to sue the estate of that gun owner that is no longer with us....................also i think it's a good idea to ck the mental state of people who are buying.

No one looks at the big picture.

The majority of new guns are sold by gun dealers, dealers have a responsibility for background check.

This is not the problem.

When Joe citizen sells his gun he is not required to do these checks. So that is where most criminals obtain guns.

Think about this.. when you buy a car, new or used, it is registered to you. and you are responsible for that car until the registration changes. you can sell your car, but! you must notify DMV immediatly to whom you sold your car to. and until you do notify DMV you are held responsible for any damages that may occur from said car.

I think it would be fair to have at least the same accountability as a car title/registration transfer.

I know this option would not have changed the outcome at Sandy Hook. But would go a long way to keep guns out of the hands of criminals.

@Robert Clarkson, you couldn't have said it better. Take for instance in Mexico, you can't own a gun there, if you are caught with a pocket knife you could get 5 years in prison, and they are sitting ducks out there, because the cartels have lots of gun, thanks to Eric Holder, and they massacre their people, dismember them and they have no way of protecting themselves. Is this what Americans want, because this is what will happen to us if we allow the gov't to take our guns from us. Our veterans fought for and gave their lives for us to have these freedoms, yet these cold blooded libtards could care less about anyone's life. I would love to see these people be on the frontline in a war. No one will take my guns either, not ever!

good ideas nathan i agree. Someone also posted about trigger alarms that would go off if a gun reached a school zone or any other heavily populated area. Maybe the criminals would just find a way to remove the trigger in the gun? I don't know but all good things to consider.

Konic is calling the sane ones idiots !! The mental cases always thinks everyone is crazy but them selves and that shows he is a bad mental case and has npo business owning a gun . I own a hand gun myself but I consider a hand gun is nothing much more than an adult toy and the assault riles are meant for killing and no sensible reason to own one and had no business removing the ban on them when Bush was president. Only cowards wants to carry one.

The 2nd amendment has nothing to do with hunting. It clearly says the right of the people (not the goverment) to form a militia. This is so we can defend ourselves from tyranny. No foriegn military has invaded us in well over a century (on land) this has to do with the 2nd amendment. Also the violence in mexico rarely pushes into the U.S. because we are not defenseless against these mexican gangs. I do feel horrible for these victims, guns should be in a safe when not being used. Without the right to bare arms we would be defenseless against an already idiotic goverment. History will repeat itself, there will be another world war at some point, the 2nd amendment needs to be defended for what it is. We cannot give up our rights because some woman did not have the sense to keep her guns safe from her mentally ill son. That is not how America works.

it's not those undocumented guns...being used by undocumented nut bag's...to be politically correct...but it is documented nut bags using doumented guns...that's the problem...

T

You are an idiot. Every game you've knocking has clear warning labels that they are not for children. Even Call of Duty, which is mild compared to other games out now, is rated M. Who gives these children access to this material? They're called parents.

that there...was a deep thought statement...if i've ever heared one...now i got to clean the cheeto stains off my key board...key board cleaning music...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VAkOhXIsI0

Clayton-548726,

Really?

I consider a hand gun is nothing much more than an adult toy

What? Does that mean you go around pointing it things you don't want to shoot? If it goes off while your playing with your toy and it kills someone is it still a toy?

I don't care what you consider it as. People who are responsible with firearms are taught to never aim one at something you don't intend to shoot. Even a BB gun. Just because one kind of firearm looks scarier than another one does not make it more deadly. It takes a person to make it deadly.

The NRA just revealed itself for what it truly has become - shills for gun and gun accessory manufacturers. They don't give a tin $^(* about the Constitution or the rights of it's members, but oh boy will they jump on a chance for their TRUE membership to make a buck. Time for them to go.

With the 52 billion yes BILLION wasted on foreign aid, we could pay 6 cops for each of the roughly 100,000 public schools their average $50,400 salary they get, and still have $217,000 per year, per school for equipment and training. Not one, but SIX. Heck just cutting foreign aid to Pakistan would probably cover ONE office in every school.

the deadly undocumented BB gun...kids should have to go thru a back ground check...got'a get santas approval...

Why am I not surprised that the NRA's solution to everything is more guns.

All of these people saying "stop the NRA" will be praying for the NRA without them, because we will have no weapons left to defend ourselves. Look what happened to Nazi Germany!

That guy from the NRA gave even more meanings to the letters NRA...... which ranged anywhere from 'Nuts Running Amuck' to 'Never Really Aware' ..... to even 'Now Really Assinine' . LOL.....

Who knew that teachers actually served a purpose, play a role in this society? Well it seems that they are or will be the new Rambos..... should see some serious rehiring soon, if we go by the T'NRA action plan. LOL

Talk about the 3 Rs changing to the 4 Rs......Reading, 'riting, 'rithmatic and Reload....

Kids of the future may not how to read, write, add or subtract but they will know how to pack heat, shoot and reload though.... with the best of them.... LOL

Peace.....

i'm thinking these are my fellow Americans... and undocumented fellow Americans...are posting these comments...well that's what are clueless leader...in all his political correctness calls us...good job Obama put JOE in charge...get back JOE JOE...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZRIO5PwG-E

All of these people saying "stop the NRA" will be praying for the NRA without them, because we will have no weapons left to defend ourselves. Look what happened to Nazi Germany!

The Nazi's did not take over by force, they were elected officials. Check your facts first. It always helps.

Yes Laurel, just like Nazi Germany. Untrained (or poorly trained) civilians armed with semi-automatic rifles and pistols will stop the full force of the greatest military the world has yet seen. Drones, night vision, infrared sensors, satellite imagery, mortars, artillery, helicopters, air strikes and cruise missile (to name a few) will mean nothing in the face of your and your idiot yahoos with peashooters.

Twit. You really don't get it, do you? It's not the M4 and the Beretta that makes a US soldier deadly - it's the TRAINING, and the full force of the organization behind them - logistics, intel, doctrine, strategy. The notion that we're going to stand up to our own army in a fight died over 100 years ago. Grow the hell up!

Right DW. And someone should tell Laurel that Hitler did arm the general population to fend off the invading Allied armies. And how well did that turn out? According to my history books, not too well.

The NRA are in bed with the Gun industry lining their pockets !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Patriotic leftist American:

So, what's wrong with that? Are they doing something illegal, or just something that pisses off your lib sensitivity?

The core of the problem is parents actually need to parent - which way too many of them don't want to do anymore. They give their children access to violent TV, movies and video games as it relieves them of having to deal with their kids. I believe that a parent had their 6 year old with them at the Aurora shooting - where the Black Knight Rises was showing - yes, a movie not rated for that age!

And the whack jobs and criminals will always get and have guns - gun laws only take rights away from law-abiding citizens. Yes there should be proper screening, rules and regulations for gun ownership - but this evil person should never have had access to guns. These guns were obviously not being properly controlled by his mother.

That was nice of you spider to stop by ????????????????????????????????????

Movies don't kill people, people kill people. Whoops...does that only work with guns NRA? Sorry...I know! Video games don't kill people, guns kill people. Still wrong? Just can't win with you guys.

2nd amendment says I have the right to keep and bear arms to prevent a tyrannical government.

Since the government has tanks, cruise missles and even nukes what am I supposed to use?

My wife's Lady Smith?

All Americans have the right to REAL protection.

Look what happened to Nazi Germany!

Just wow.

So if we reintroduce a ban on assault weapons, we'll turn into Nazi Germany?

I am an avid gun owner. Hell, I had to build an addition on my home for them all, and I will never be a member of the NRA.

They are getting as far out there as PETA.

Real protection first comes from not being an ass, and that's what I'd tell the NRA, who are being asses right now.

I believe in the right to bear arms. However, not in a stupid way. Just like I don't believe you get the right to falsely yell fire in a movie theater, I don't believe you get the right to own an assault rifle.

The NRA has, for a while now, not represented gun owners, but definitely represented asses. This is no exception.

Guns aren't the only part of the problem. Violent movies shown to the wrong age group ARE part of the problem to. When you have parents with 7 year olds (and there aren't a whole lot of them, but they exist and you all have seen it) who brings that kid to an R rated movie just so they can watch it, you have a problem. And sadly, most theaters won't do anything about it.

But this is about the NRA being idiots. If Hollywood turned around and said violent movies shown to 7 year olds weren't the problem, it's guns, it would be the same level of heartlessness.

The extremists need to be reeled in. Only the extremists think nothing should be done about guns, responsible parenting (re: video games and moveis) AND mental health issues.

I said AND. Because if it is or for you, you're in that category of needing to be reeled in....

Honestly, old fat guy, what weapon do you propose to own to counter the government weapons you have listed?

It would be really interesting, and disgusting. to know how many of the comments posted so far have been posted by paid stooges of MSBC and the Federal Government.

It is perfectly obvious because most of them have nothing to do with the subject but are just anti republican. This same thing happens on virtually every subject that is "discussed."

It is really sad that most forums have been taken over and managed by democratic stooges and MSNBC.

The problem is...we're not giving our children suicide bomber vests to wear to school. If potential

deranged shooters knew that their targets could explode before they could get a shot off, depriving

them of their psycho-raging retribution that would certainly make everything better.

Let's take a moment to address all the people who say they need "killing" weapons to keep the

government from oppressing them. When the government comes with F-35 jets dropping twelve

500 lb. bombs on you before you can see it or a 60 ton M1A2 Abrams with Chobham armor firing high

explosives rounds with laser guided, computer controlled precision or an Apache helicopter firing

Hellfire missiles or even a platoon of front line, fully trained troops: do you think your AR-15,

Bushmaster .223, AK-47 or other weapons will stop them? Because that's how the government rolls,

ask all the corpsified Iraqis planted into the dry desert sand.

The answer is no, you will be slaughtered if you don't surrender. Your precious stockpile of "freedumb"

defending weapons will have been a wasted investment that just enriched supporters of the

government that you believe is "out to get you". The time for "Turner Diaries" and "Red Dawn"

fantasies is over and long past overdue to end. Wake up! Just because it will never be the 1950's

(or the 1850's for that matter) doesn't mean the end of this country. Your rationale for owning military

grade killing machines is wrong and wrong-headed and it's time for you to come to that realization.

Sorry 'bout your butthurt.

The NRA are really weird..I can think of A" Huundred ways that these guns don't belong with us.

Yes, the Nazi's may have armed the populace to defend the homeland, but under the gun laws they passed in 1934, they disarmed the "untrustworthy". In doing so they set up the Jews, intellectuals, gypsies, etc. to be rounded up and exterminated. The Nazi's only armed those they could trust.

Putting in guns in school is dancing with the devil......

I know it's been said before countless times already, but I gotta chime in too and say that if this meathead thinks this country can afford to put an armed cop in EVERY school in this country, he's completely off his rocker! I mean, HOLY CR@P!!! Our government already has enough trouble paying it's bills as is!

If this LUNATIC wants to see this come to fruition, HE SHOULD PAY FOR IT HIMSELF!

By far THE SINGLE STUPIDEST IDEA I'VE HEARD IN A VERY LONG TIME! It's just not possible, and any thinking person should know it.

2 cents,

Did you listen to the whole half hour press release from the NRA or make your decision based on the two sentences that the media shared with us?

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!

Of course the little limp-wristed Libbies are in an uproar because the mean spooky NRA bogeyman was saying things they don't agree with.

I'm shocked I tell you, shocked. A dysfunctional Liberal/Progressive, can you believe it?

Of course the Liberals just want to keep that pathetically useless Assault Weapons Ban that had NO measurable effect on gun violence because it makes them "feel" better. All Liberal/Progressive solutions are based on emotions during crises rather than rational policies.

Liberals know more gun control won't work. They really don't care about preventing crime, they just have been indoctrinated into thinking that disarming law abiding citizens will stop criminals. This is the convoluted bizarre logic Liberals try to believe.

At least the idiot Piers Morgan was honest when he admitted he was happy this tragedy occurred so he could press the dysfunctional Liberal agenda of total disarmament. Of course the useful idiot Liberals will support a Brit trying to destroy our Liberties and Freedoms.

According to a 2004 study from the University of Pennsylvania regarding the 1994 assault weapons ban, "We cannot clearly credit the ban with any of the nation's recent drop in gun violence," the study concluded. "And, indeed, there has been no discernible reduction in the lethality and injuriousness of gun violence."

But the Liberals, in typical knee-jerk fashion will go through all the machinations to restrict our 2nd Amendment rights and totally neglect all the other issues such as education, safety, mental health concerns and social/moral collapse caused by Progressivism and political correctness.

But then again we have our buffoon vice-president, Joe "Bite Me" Biden, leading this evaluation. He'll forget what he was supposed to be doing in a few days.

Funny isn’t it? Barrack Hussein and his criminal A.G., Eric Holder, want to ban guns for law abiding citizens yet they give away 2,500 assault weapons to Mexican mafia and drug dealers without so much as asking for an I.D.

Liberal hypocrisy is only surpassed by its delusions.

Put republican animals and their spawn in interment camps and they will not be able to create gun violance. Problem solved.

I think it would be great if we could stop all the bad people from doing bad things. However this is reality. Bad things are going to happen no matter what we do. Do I think our young see too much violence in games and movies. You bet but in many cases that is because parents let the game box become their baby sitter.

I doubt anyone needs assualt rifles. However whether it is an assualt rifle or a hand gun you can be shot just the same. Better background checks might help but lets face it it is certainly not the cure all. Last winter a guy in a pharmacy pulled out a gun and intended to use it. Luckily another customer had a permit and his hand gun and shot the guy.

You cannot write a law that will contend or even make a dent in crimes committed by some deranged total idiot like in the latest shooting. People run around paranoid all the time and think the government can protect them from every bad thing in life. Bad news ..they cannot.

If you really want to make a difference it starts with good sound parenting. Stop being your childs best friend first and be a parent and teach them respect. And the next parent that tells me that their child could never do bad things I will tell you that you are a brain cell short of empty.

BTW: I do not own a gun but do support the right for sane law abiding citizens to own one.

ForePlinger,

Have you not kept up with world news over the last few years? There is an abundance of examples in the Middle East of civilian uprisings that start with simple weapons that later progress to military weapons. How does this happen? The civilians overtake a few military units that are protecting military weapons, which are then acquired by the civilians. Add to that the military weapons that are handed to the civilians by military members who refuse to participate in the governments slaughter, and you soon have a wekk armed civilian uprising. Once that civilian resistance has garnered a large enough arsenal, a foreign government may step in and offer them assistance in increasing their arsenal. It has happened numerous times and in numerous countries and is both plausible and possible even in the US of A.

That's how civilian uprisings roll. Perhaps you should ask Gaddafi or Assad for their opinions on the matter.

There are guards practically everywhere you go. Why not schools? Six trillion dollars has vanished into thin air the last four years. That probably could have put guards in every school for the next thousand years.

Wow ShadyJ;

Did you really just compare the free wheeling, arms bazaar Middle East gun culture to the

United States? You know those places where one can buy R.P.G.s and other heavy weapons 24/7?

Did you really just make that comparison? It's the argument one would make if one were

congenitally stupid, not that you are, probably, I'm just characterizing that argument.

And what country would risk helping an armed faction in the United States; China? There's

someone the neo-con fascists would snuggle right up to. Mexico, Canada, just what country?

As I said earlier, the time for paranoiac, delusional, anti-government fantasy camps are past due

to end. People want to hunt, you don't need any mass slaughter weapons to harvest animals

in a quick and clean manner. There's no excuse for owning military grade, assault style weapons,

deal with it.

Even the NRA members was stunned by this Nut Wayne's statement - calling it outrageous and the dumbest thing they ever heard !!!!!!!!!!!!!

It all comes down to one very simple concept from this nutjob:

In the minds of many NRA supporters the 2nd amendment right to bear arms is so very much more important than the victims right to 'LIFE, liberty, and THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS'!!!

Glad to see how much the gun rights activists care more about their freaking guns than the safety of their fellow citizens.

Now go look yourself in the eye in the mirror and tell us all how you would explain to the survivors and victims families & friends in that school that you just HAVE to be able to keep semi automatics and high capacity magazines... cause you THINK it's your God given right.

Bullet proof glass, high quality security systems, very carefully monitoring of person let into the schools and many other measures would be helpful. How about common sense solutions from commenters to this article instead of adding more guns to a violent culture?

I have NO problem with guns for hunting, personal protection, but semi automatics and guns with NO practical use need to be banned... or at least the ammo for them. So you get to keep your toy but we render it useless. Works for me!

I grew up where hunting is a major pastime, so do know what I'm talking about; I have a sibling with a serious mental health disease (and hell yes, we MUST provide more mental health services and support for families); my husband, step daughter & niece (who works in a school for children with behavioral problems & mental health issues). My husband's school is an 'open classroom' school that the people in the district refuse to replace by passing a levy... and these classrooms are NOT acceptable, no way to lock a door. AND I have a grandchild that's in 1st grade. How the hell much crying do you think I did this week.

Screw the NRA!!!

@ quigley4me

What does it matter, what my source is or how much of the statement I heard? The soundbite is enough. What? You're going to post a cop at all of the rural 1 classroom schools too? Nothing scary about that. How many schools, daycares, etc. are there in the U.S. anyway? I don't know, but it's gotta be A LOT. And this guy thinks it's feasible to post a cop at EVERY ONE?

It's just not realistic!

I have a suggestion: Do us a favor, LaPierre, and use one of your precious guns on yourself.

What is this? The Wild West? It seems to me that the NRA has been watching too many (John Wayne) movies and has completely lost touch with reality. Guns make it far too easy to kill people and logic dictates that, if you put more guns in people's hands, more shootings will happen. This is such an obvious case of self-promotion by the NRA that it's almost laughable - except that there are those who actually buy into it. The NRA doesn't care about kids being shot. All they care about is how many guns they can sell. Someday, America is going to wake up and realize this. I can only hope and pray that it is sooner, rather than later.

Hey, NBC, how long are you going to keep this story/discussion around (since yesterday morning)? Either you like it an awful lot....or you're in shock that so many people agree with LaPierre, and not your left wing pacifist, ridiculous "get rid of guns" mantra. Guess what?...that ain't gonna happen!

I just love how the gun freaks block all the truth on here. The truth is the nra has bought congress and buffaloed the average gun owner into believing that more guns are the answer. You believe so much the second amendment, what about the first, FREE SPEECH. I was taught to believe that sometimes the truth hurts. I see alot of people here are reeling in pain.

for the NRA to assume no responsibility at all is ludicrous...........how can they not be at least a part of the problem when they furnish the weapon of choice?

Showing compassion for the deaths of all these innocents by accepting their responsibility of designing, manufacturing, marketing and selling the weapons used to commit these murders would be a start....and I doubt working with our law makers in banning assault weapons and helping to implement better weapons safety and training would have a detrimental effect on the NRA sales and in fact may very well improve the NRA's image in the public eye and better improve the concept that the NRA can care more about people than guns and profits...

the NRA needs to evolve into the new milleneum...improved public image and a better working relationship with law makers is a positive thing and could have a positive effect on their organization as a whole and even improve or increase their membership...

as it seems the NRA continuing to stand the line of total deniability is eerily similar to what the republican party is doing to itself.....and it is costing them dearly not to change with the times and the attitudes of the public...

the NRA should see the republican parties actions and the public's reaction as a lesson in survival....

these horrific atrocities have many factors, many circumstances and no one solution that will fix them..we need a cooperative effort on many fronts to accomplish our goal of safer schools, public places and still allow for the 2nd amendment rights afforded our citizens...pointing fingers and denying any responsibility, no matter how small, will get nothing done and protect no one...

we are all responsible....we the people voted for the 2nd amendment, we the people allow the manufacture and sale of assault weapons, we the people freely allow the imaging of violence as a justifiable act on television shows, on cable tv, in ads, in our laws (Fl murder in self defense), in our books, in our history.........and so on,..we the people have condoned these actions and this attitude forever and now we the people need to change what has been to what now should be.

Whether we have the ability to stand together as a nation and do this is questionable....but I believe it can be done.......but will require cooperation and right now in our dismal political climate cooperation is not our strong suit and if nothing is done it will simply reiterate the idea that in America we put money (and stupidity) as a higher commodity than human life...

it is a rare chance and a perfect time for America to grow up a notch and show intelligence and compassion for its people en masse over the profit and greed of the fewest who benefit at the cost of loss of life for their wealthier tomorrow...........

I was always taught "safety first".......when did that fall out of favor?

NRA has blood on their hands Supported by the GOPigs, "Kill for Profit"

So DrRiver, this is really what Jesus would do?

These mass shooters have learned along the way to totally arm themselves with body armor, so unless you and the NRA advocate having swat teams in place at all schools, these armed guards being proposed will just make the body count higher.

never know, seems he avoided gun control as much as possible, could have been so he could get reelected, maybe not. as for giving up your hi capacity mag it wouldnt make a difference cause it wont keep stuff out of a nut jobs hands. for pushing agendas, everyone pushes their own agenda, but for the most part its mostly the libs/leftists that seem to degregate anyone else who do opposes their veiw.

No he is not the anti Christ he is just protecting every persons right by the constitution. If you want to ban guns then change the Constitution, but until you change the Constitution leave my rights alone. I do not have a gun but support the Constitution.

I'm for allowing everyone to have the guns that were used when the 2 amendment was written.

DrRiverSong

Typical liberal media reporting....because of course the only ones responsible for what happened are the NRA and the citizens who legally own guns......Liberals refuse to see that LaPierre is spot on right in what he said...this country is living in a culture where you aren't allowed to parent your children....

Your Right, parents aren't allowed to parent their children because they are being killed by military type weapons that have no place in our society except if you are in a real war zone, with a definite emeny

if you think more guns is the answer, i see it was not one of your kids who was murdered by a military type wepond a week ago today as they went to school. Babys were murdered and all you say is more guns.

stupid.

your attitude is selfish and short sided.

So Obama has appointed uncle Joe to oversee a task force on gun control before swearing in for a second term and your point is?

Nope. Mitt Romney is. You can watch the video on youtube under howiebartee,mitt romney the anti-christ.

Wayne LaPierre is the anti-Christ.

Well, close to it, whatever that is. Most likely a large stockholder in weapons manufacturers and most certainly their good buddy. It's all about the money, ya know. The NRA likes to scare people into buying guns (I wonder how many have ever had to use theirs - probably .01%), not because guns make you safer, but because more guns sold = more profits. And more political cover, too, because once someone is a gun owner, they will feel defensive about owning that thing and be more likely to vote the NRA Way. I believe most Americans are wising up and want at least an assault weapons ban, whether they're gun owners or not. The NRA put its foot in the road apple here.

Typical liberal media reporting....because of course the only ones responsible for what happened are the NRA and the citizens who legally own guns......Liberals refuse to see that LaPierre is spot on right in what he said...this country is living in a culture where you aren't allowed to parent your children....God forbid you discipline them...Oh, did I say God? I'll probably get hidden and banned here for that........Mental health? Not on the Liberal's watch.... cut funding for that but spend, spend, spend, on welfare for illegals and those too lazy to get off the government tit.... You people won't pull your collective heads out of your arses for anything.... Its not the NRA with blood on its hands.....Its the rest of you living in la la land where criminals stop shooting people Because YOU said so. You're all so busy screaming for gun control and calling anyone who disagrees with you names...that you've forgotten those children who died....you just stand on their graves to preach your politics. God bless those little souls...... you people don't really care about protecting them...but some of us do.

Mr. Lapierre could have handled this differently,

His reasoning & solution is absurd .... many other countries show the same movies, Have the same video games & Music ... And have a fraction of murders & shootings that our country has ...

He should look at himself in the mirror ...

He may see part of the problem w/ himself & his attitude....

What he won't see is a soul.

PS... We use to be card carrying NRA members up until 1990 .. NOT anymore.

...on the other hand, maybe the NRA approach could work.

If everybody had a gun, then people with guns would vastly outnumber NRA members. After the NRA members are outgunned and there are no more, then we can get rid of the guns.

and thats why your the great square. whats your proposal once everyone outgunned the NRA? shoot them? sounds like it, the idea of arming the teachers or atleast haveing one security officer would reduce the chance of such an event form occuring again, i look at it like this, hero the principle maybe, if she had a weapon, she may have been a living one instead of a dead one.

drano. the NRA doesn't sell guns, or manufacture, or import them! But don't let facts get in your way. Michigan Mark, check the real statistics, not the "cherry picked" ones from the Brady Bunch!

OldDog, the NRA DOES profit from internet ammo and accessory sales, therefore it benefits them to ratchet up the fear-factor so that people buy weapons and stockpile bullets. Google "Round-up" for info on how. This explains why we hear the rumors about how "Obama is causing a bullet shortage" every once in a while - all the fools rush out and buy on line and when supply is depleted, it's conveniently the fault of the Democrat in the White House. NRA is laughing all the way to the bank.

Old dog,

You're statistics are one foot in the ground.

drano. the NRA doesn't sell guns, or manufacture, or import them! But don't let facts get in your way. Michigan Mark, check the real statistics, not the "cherry picked" ones from the Brady Bunch!

You keep on believing that the NRA doesn't profit from gun and ammo sales......

then NRA doesnt sell guns morons. why does everyone think they do?

fedup-3902068: Because they are so scared to death of guns they would listen to the Brady Center who because Brady was shot during the attempt on Reagan.They have a hatred and want All guns confiscated.Also they listen to Michael Steele a devout Communist who of course wants us unarmed! Who among Any of the shooters at any school was legally armed? Mentally ill people,Killers,and Robbers could care less about laws.

Same can be said for the Gay rights or any other group! the blame falls on the moral of this country! not guns or the NRA!!!

And for Heavens sake, don't allow anybody to defend themselves! How many deaths does it take to get you wacko liberals to face reality? Find the facts; make rational decisions. Don't forget, liberals, take your meds.

When you live in the country u have to wait on help, So a gun is needed. Everyone says the statement about movies is wrong and video games. Well when I was in school everyone had a gun in their pickup AT school. When we got a new on we used to take it to shop to show are teacher and yet we didn't have shootings then, so something has changed. Mental health is just not looked at like a normal condition and yet is very dangerous. If you ban every gun, then the bad guys will have all the guns. We need checks at gun shows just like gun shops and a waiting period, but if you take away the guns it not going to stop. 100 bullets in a gun is not for hunting except for humans. These kinds of things may have to go.

So we have armed guards at banks but not schools, therefore we care more for our money than our children’s lives. Are armed guards effective? When was the last mass murder at a bank? Going postal: the term came from an UNARMED group. I noticed that they didn’t call it going bankal!!! And I bet there are plenty of people who would like to go bankal. Therefore being armed is both a deterrent and a safety edge. The term over educated idiots comes to mind when I think of our schools.

NOTE TO POLITICIANS: If you pass a law that makes my new $1500 assault rifle illegal I will make a note of your name and vote for anybody else in November. Also note, there are 300 million guns in the US; that is a lot of votes. The term political suicide comes to mind.

Because our government refuses to protect our children I can’t help but get the feeling that they are using our feelings for our children’s safety to get us to give up our 2^nd amendment rights???

Gun laws are effective?? Look at Canada: In America 80% of the prison population is black, and about the rest are Hispanic. I don’t see blacks and Hispanics in Canada, so I expect that they would have a lower crime rate. Apples and oranges comparison. Look at Mexico: Hispanic population, whole towns getting wiped out by illegal gun toting gangs. Their government threw the population to the wolves with gun control.

Why is our government loading up on ammunition while at the same time trying to pass gun laws??

Why Does The U.S. Government Need So Much Ammunition?

In my previous article, I also noted that the U.S. government appears to be very rapidly making preparations for something really big.

This week, it was revealed that the Social Security Administration plans to buy 174,000 hollow point bullets which will be delivered to 41 different locations all over America.

Now why in the world does the Social Security Administration need 174,000 bullets?

And why do they need hollow point bullets? Those bullets are designed to cause as much damage to internal organs as possible.

But of course this is only the latest in a series of very large purchases of ammunition by U.S. government agencies. The following is from a recent article by Paul Joseph Watson....

Back in March, Homeland Security purchased 450 million rounds of .40-caliber hollow point bullets that are designed to expand upon entry and cause maximum organ damage, prompting questions as to why the DHS needed such a large amount of powerful bullets merely for training purposes.

This was followed by another DHS solicitation asking for a further 750 million rounds of assorted bullets, including 357 mag rounds that are able to penetrate walls.

Now why in the world would the government need over a billion rounds of ammunition?

If it was the U.S. military I could understand this. You can burn through a whole lot of ammunition fighting wars.

But this makes no sense - unless they believe that big trouble is coming.

George Soros:

Perhaps even more disturbing is what he believes is coming after the financial collapse....

As anger rises, riots on the streets of American cities are inevitable. “Yes, yes, yes,” he says, almost gleefully. The response to the unrest could be more damaging than the violence itself. “It will be an excuse for cracking down and using strong-arm tactics to maintain law and order, which, carried to an extreme, could bring about a repressive political system, a society where individual liberty is much more constrained, which would be a break with the tradition of the United States.”

Why exactly does someone need a high capacity clip to defend themselves?

I agree that the NRA's response was pathetic. However, I firmly believe that to solve the problems of mass shootings we must look at all the psychiatric drugs that are being prescribed to people, especially younger people. Every mass shooting we have had in this country the shooter was on some form of psychiatric medication. Are psychiatric drugs doing more harm than good? Someone needs to take a good hard look IMO.

Ther are guards at every federal building and most state buildings, so you are saying our politicians are worth protecting but not our children" whose pathetic:

Jefferson said it best; "The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." He also said, "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."

@ uchusky99, when there's more than one assailant or the cover they're in prevents the first twenty-nine shots from getting them. Or even if you didn't want to kill them you'd have thirty shots focused on keepeing their heads down until help arrives.

Go live there then.

If guns were the problem, then all the shootings would occur at gun shows. The shooters always go where they know no one can shoot back. Almost 11,000 innocent people are killed every year by drunk drivers, I don't hear anyone calling for more stringent alcohol control.

Well if you want to stop them, just buy a gun......................oh wait. Yea, just hold your signs up, that will work. I'm sure the teachers at that school wished they had cool signs like you have, then everything would have been OK!

uchusky99 - By calling a magazine a "clip" you tell everyone you have no clue what your talking about.

NRA = Sociopatic Terrorists.

When we require an armed escort to enter insitutions of learning, "civilization" has disappeared.

But, alas, the Party of No reviles education.

I guess now the NRA wil say next: Look at the massacre in a movie theatre, now we need to arm the usher with a big gun to protect the viewers!

If only gun nuts read magazines...rather than loading them...

Dare to dream.

We already have armed personnel in schools. Where the f_ck have you liberals been?!?!? And it works! But you libbies ignore those black schools with the armed guards. You need those votes. So why can't the white kids get protection too?

Any it would not cost a dime. Just use an existing police officer at each location during school hours. What? There is a shortage of cops? So what? Make do with what you got. I own a business and I have make do even when times are tough. But I forgot, adapting during tough times is not something liberals understand. They only understand doing nothing and collecting free stuff.

Liberals. God love em! LOL!

Yeah but those countries don't have the same borders as we do. Or half the drug problems across those borders. So to fix one problem you must fix the other.

I live in Louisiana and we have police at every school. If the school had an armed officer that kid would not have attempted what he did at the school. If he wasn't afraid of cops he would have attacked the police station.

I also believe parents need to get control of their kids viewing and listening habits. My children do not listen to trashy music nor do we have violent video games in the house. Nor do they get to watch violent shows on television. I know some will attack me and say "but when they leave the house ho do you know..." Because I have actually been to my kids friends home and talked with the parents. I do not care if their kids have those type games but when my kids come over they are not allowed to play or watch them. Amazing thing is when parents talk to one another you respect their wishes. I have some that do not want their children to have candy or soda. I let my kids have that once in a while. But if they do not want their children to have such things I support that decision.

Here in Shreveport, We have a Democrat Mayor and officers in middle and high schools. We don't have the funding for elementary but have regulations for it. No reports of any major violence in our schools, so it seems to work here.

After the Ma’alot massacre in 1974, Israel instituted a policy in which volunteer school personnel, parents, and grandparents received special training from the civil guard, and were seeded throughout the schools armed with discreetly concealed 9mm semiautomatic pistols.

Since that time, there has been no successful mass murder at an Israeli school, and every attempt at such has been quickly shortstopped by the good guys’ gunfire, with minimal casualties among the innocent.

Similar programs are in place in Peru and the Phillippines, with similarly successful results.

It's certainly not a new idea as every university has a armed police force. The libs and unions would probably be for a similar system in pre-college schools. It definitely a better idea than banning one particular type of gun to solve a mental health issue. Of course, nobody wants to listen to common sense right now, its about knee jerk reactions, panic, and passing laws that dont solve any real problems just to push an agenda

Where I live we have cops at the schools, malls, theaters, shopping centers. Most large retail areas have cops on duty most of the time. Maybe that is why we do not have these nuts trying to kill everyone. Plus we have the "open carry law" and "Concealed Weapon Law" here so you know who is carry a gun but you do not who who may be carrying a gun.

I don't understand why so many people are against protecting schools with police. we have cops sitting on the sides of roads passing out tickets all day to make up trembling budgets, sitting at road construction sites, or banks protecting money. am i to believe that all of these things are more valuable than children. i understand laws need to be revised to close loop holes but taking a means away does not stop the desire. banning guns is reactive not preventative if this nut job killed all these kids with a hammer would we be talking about banning them. and yes other countries have less shootings but has anyone ever sat down and really looked at the stats of overall violent acts and compared that to the US murder is murder is murder. it doesn't matter if it was accomplished with a gun or a pillow used to smother someone to death. it saddens me that the world is so blinded by politics nobody can see the real issues out there. how to stop the desire to do things like this and how to make our schools safer. if anything the NRAs proposal does more to protect the schools than banning weapons. when there is a will there is a way guns or no guns. wake up everyone jump off the political platform spring boarded off a tragic event and lets do something real for once rather then cry we aren't getting are way.

Purpose of the 2nd amendment is to allow citizens access to own firearms to protect the PEOPLE from foreign AND DOMESTIC enemies.

Idiots the whole lot of you liberals. You people always think the bandage is the cure. If our founding fathers had your ideology we wouldn't be a country. You're blood suckers that has to find (host) what is already there and suck the life out of it.

Why don't you liberals band drinking. How many lives are lost to alcohol every year? Second hand smoke? I don't hear you liberals crying about that.

How well gun control actually works can be clearly seen in Mexico...mass shootings, kidnappings, and extortion by people with ILLEGAL GUNS. However, law abiding citizens cannot defend themselves against this because they aren't allowed to own firearms.

GUNS WILL ALWAYS BE IN THE HANDS OF CRIMINALS...LEGALLY BOUGHT OR ILLEGALLY. All gun control will do, is create one hell of a black market in the U.S. for gun sales and strip lawful citizens from being able to defend themselves.

All this is coming from a Chicagoan...not a southern, religious whatever else people like to sterotype 2nd amendment advocates.

Another example is Chicago. It has ultra strict gun laws, but somehow people get shot everyday with illegal guns..get the picture?

why does a police officer need 2 high capacity clips?IF you are defending YOURSELF you can never have too many bullets, use a little common sense

The NRA is correct in that the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. As an example; If someone I gave a house key to loses my trust, I can ask for the key back. They may or may not give it to me, they may or may not have made a copy. I can change the locks for more security. The law already says that their unpermitted entry into my home is illegal. Regardless, I can not PHYSICALLY stop this person from entering my home unless someone is there and PHYSICALLY stops the person trying to enter. This is simple logic!

The gun debate is no different. It is illegal to enter these places with a gun. It is already illegal to shoot at or kill people. This stops no one. It is impossible to pass a law and make every firearm in America disappear immediately. Even if it were possible to eventually rid the country of every firearm and block the black market importation of more, it would take generations. In the mean time, we would still need a reactive, physical deterrent (i.e security people)! This doesn't even take into account other lethal weapons or methods of mass murder. Armed, trained security has also had some diminishing effect on these other methods of attack.

Expecting any law or ban of any magnitude to stop or diminish these types of attacks, is idiotic and illogical!

its always the case people dont listen to what is said,and sadly take every thing out of context. the n.r.a. has a solid plan to protect our children right now. they didnt say anything about arming children or faculty. if schools had armed guards these horrific acts would never happen. our own law makers have taken the security of our children away, and the government wont fund security for the schools,but they will send money to countries that commit violence against the united states. the brady bill is responsable for causing a lot of lawabiding citicens to lose their gun rights because of the way it was wrongly inforced across the land and poor people cant afford representation to be vindicated of the unfair legislation. lets protect our children and our freedom now. the n.r.a. has the best idea act now!!!! join the n.r.a.!!!

A group in this instance the NRA tries to fight to uphold our Constitutional Right in the face of a tragedy being used by political elites and 1%ers, and they are condemned

The second amendment is a CIVIL LIBERTY

not for one second should anyone back those in power who try to curtail ANY of our Constitutional Rights.

To trade any of our freedoms for a false moment of safety will leave us with neither.

Since when did LIBERALS feel the Federal Government should provide less rights and not more freedoms?

shame on you "progressives"

women should have the right to chose

gays the right to marry who they wish

and ALL Americans the right to bare arms and freedom speech

Funny, when there is violence or criminal activity, the first question most people have "Where are the Police?" WHat makes hte Police effective? Oh the fact they provide an ARMED response.

Sad, really, people find it distrubing to have armed deterants on the premesis, but don't have a problem with Law Enforcment having an armed response.

As for the passing blame, isn't that what the liberal and politicians have been doing for the passed 4 years? Yet, a Conservative does it and it's appaling? That is defined as a double standard.

If it can work for Obama and the Democrats, to blame others... after all Socialist values are everyone is equal... right? Or just those who share the same values? Want to be taken serious, then hold all to the same accountability.

As for "arming teachers"... nobody has suggested just handing a teacher a gun, just not detering skilled and trained teachers to have one available. As in, presenting a potential threat to any would be copy cat.

Do not just allow them to bring a firearm, either. Just like a CCW, make sure they are properly trained, not just how to use it, but how to assess the situation and take proper decisions.

Teachers have already developed many of the skill sets associated. Crowd control, anger assessment, negotiating and moderating to diffuse hostile situation. And mandate storage and security measures. Like trigger locks, storage to prevent others from accessing, storing unloaded, and conditional, like when in classroom versus out of classroom.

Do not just allow free reign. Set perimeters, but make no mistake, let any would be assailants know, that if they think about coming into the schools with to kill, you will be met with armed response capable of stopping you from taking any further lives.

Little FYI, while the tragedy is Conneticut was extreme, the worst tragedy in a public school was not carried out by a gun... it was a bomb. And make no mistake, if you do not fix the root cause of why individuals are committing these crimes, you will never stop the tragedy.

Take into account in Western Europe, they have severe gun restiriction. But their mortality rate for violent crimes actually increased? How can that be? Oh wait, the usage of explosive devices and lethal non-firearms has increased. What about firearm deaths? Hmm, interesting, all stats I can find show little difference between criminals usage before and after restrictions... in fact, armed activity (like theft) seems to have increased...

And anyone can google for the stats, each country reports, so it would take a page longer than the article to post all the links, besides, most won't bother, to easy to just take the blue pill.

WTF Where's our federal governments responsibility in all of this? The FDA approves psychotropic drugs, which have a laundry list of negative side affects including suicide, that allows derranged people to quasi fit into our society, unbeknownst to you and I, until they eventually snap and a bunch of people end up dead. In each of these mass murder cases has been committed by one or more of these individuals.

Maybe this is all part of this adminitrations bigger plans for us, what's a few dead for the greater good? After all, wasn't it this adminitration's bright idea to covertly put assault rifles in the hands of Mexican drug cartels; I guarantee you and I would have know a thing about it if one of them hadn't turned up at a muder scene of one of our own.

Now they're starting to whittle away at the one Constitutional Right that keeps the government and potential invaders at bay.

I says thanks but no thanks! As to the rest of you lemmings out there; enjoy the fall because that won't be what kills you, it'll be that bunch of other lemmings you'll be hitting at the end of the fall that will!

Lock and load compadres' it's going to get rougher before it gets better.

Seems that Mary Fernandes just told the entire world that she is an easy target due to her belief in "I don't believe people need guns in their homes." Now a quote that makes sense: ”Gun control is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it tougher for sober people to own cars.”
~Unknown. Yes the nation has endured a horrible tragedy, and the NRA may not have responded in the best manner. But keep in mind that Timothy McVeigh killed 168 people, and injured over 800, he did not use one single gun. The unstable will always find a way to cause death and destruction.

Guns kill people, spoons made me fat, T.V. makes me brain dead, Cell phones cause cancer, hats made me bald.....

Eveyone on here seems to miss a few points. No, multiple ammunition clips are NOT for hunting. They are for defense against tyrany. The founding fathers put the second amendmenst in there in its entirety to prevent the goverments or any other goverment from trying to take over our beloved country. Yes, I feel absolutely horrible for those families who have endured this tragedy, but lets look at a few other things.

Same day in China, a man walks into a school with a knife and slashes 22 children. Where is the outrage over those 22 children? China, Russia and several of the countries who want us to fall are calling for a massive overhaul of our gun laws. Why do you think that is? Why do you think Japan never invaded in WW2? Its because we are the ONLY country on earth with the ability to have a 260 million man army in the blink of an eye. They want gun laws so we will be easily taken out.

I feel horrible for those families. I too have a child that age and I shed many tears that day, but gun laws will not change this. Where there is a will to do things like this, there is a way.

The guy who did this didnt even own the guns. They belonged to his mother. She didnt have them properly locked up and that is also a shame. Gun laws will not prevent criminals from getting guns. That fact has been proven time and time again in Chicago and DC where they have not only the strictest gun laws in the country, but the highest murder and violent crime rate in America. Where is the effect of those strict gun laws in those cities/areas?

I will end this with I mourn with and for all of those who suffer and who have lost loved ones recently. Nothing on Earth can take the grief and pain away of losing a child so young to such a heartless act of aggression. I only hope that you can somehow find peace through the grace of our Lord, Jesus Chirst and rest assured, all of those children are in his arms now. God Bless.

The NRA is an organization promoting death. Armed guards in schools, how about armed guards in movie theatres, or grocery store, or shopping malls, or every airports, or hospitals, or libraries, or museums, or churches, or on every corner of every city, town or village. We would safer no doubt but good luck on trying to fund a police state! No guns, no problem. If bad guys have them the police should be allowed to shoot to kill, problem solved!

Do you really believe an armed guard or two will prevent someone from entering a school? Well good luck with that! And wait for your local propery taxes to increase when the PD say they need more personnel to cover the school security detail. You'd have to erect a perimeter fence and make the schools like prisons. Fun! In the end, the only way to handle this is a bit of everything - a reduction in the access to semi automatics, an increase in the tabs kept on those individuals with persistent mental health problems, and some sort of responsibility from the film and gaming industry about the detail shown in movies and games. Personally, I'd imagine if it was impossible for someone to hole themselves up with a violent game for hours on end, it might actually help. The NRA has just done what it always does - waits for the fuss to die down and then not budge. This time though, if we REALLY care about those dead kids, we need to hold everyones toes to the line - Hollywood, the NRA and mental health services.

Could metal detectors be placed at the main entrances like at airports. Also Americans have taken GOD out of everything Xmas, schools and govt. The 2nd amendment states that government shall make no laws respecting an establishment of religion or preventing the free excercise thereof. Without teaching children the principles of the Bible and allowing them watch violent movies and games the result is obvious. But do not try to put restrictions on Hollywood or the video industry people will become outraged. Millions of babies are killed each year in the womb & it is accepted in America. A fetus has a heartbeat after 25 days. How can anyone state that the fetus is not alive.

Quit blaming video games and movies. I play a lot of first person shooter games and watch a lot of "violent" movies. I havent gone out on a shooting spree. The masses are not effected by these things and you cannot hinder the masses on the whims of a few or the actions of a few. Sadly to say this country already has enough of that.

There were semi automatic weapons in the home of a mentally ill person. That is the problem. Not law abiding citizens guns. That woman, the mother, was an ignorant moron. If she did not get killed by her son she would have been in a world of trouble.

No need to make it more than what it was. Those poor kids. Horrible. I wish that kid just offed himself. Fkn little bastard coward. Now we get to suffer consequences for another fukd up individual.

Tallguy - you're making the same argument the gun owners are - "Don't call my video games (or guns) bad and don't try to ban them! After all, I play (own) them and I don't go out killing anyone, so they must be safe and OK."

The point is, our minds are shaped by what we "value". Some people are able to keep fantasy and reality seperate, and some aren't - but isn't the whole point of "virtual reality games" to try to blur the line between fantasy and reality? Why is there such emphasis on making simulation games "more realistic"? Is it that we want to be able to enjoy the thrill of killing without the "real-life consequences"? If so, we may say, "At least no one gets hurt!", but the argument is then made that we are merely desensitizing ourselves to "the real thing". Try convincing the younger generation to watch an "old school" war movie, cop show, wester, or horror film (made before hollywood depended on copious blood & guts to shock audiences - and there are many good films out there that do not rely on gratuitous gore) - most will not be interested. I have an older son who is very much into modern horror films (though even he was disturbed by the movie "Hostel" and did not watch the sequels). I have tried to convince him that there are good scary movies that don't just substitute "gore" for "good storyline" - to no avail. I've noticed that my older kids and their friends seem to stick to this notion that if there is not a lot of blood and brains splashed on the screen, that the movie "sucks", and that it's not enough to just have a video game where you shoot people, the more "realistic-looking" the death, the better the game (though the irony is that they've never seen an actual person get shot in the head, so how would they know wht "realistic" looks like - oh yeah, from the movies!).

The more we, as a society "get our kicks" from violent movies, video games, etc. the more we start to get desensitized to it. George Carlin said (on his album, "You're All Diseased") something about how in this country, the news had become entertainment - how when there was a disaster or a tragedy, we watched the news like it was entertainment - as long as it didn't happen to someone we knew, we acted like it might as well have been "Entertainment Tonight". When I first heard that, I thought "Ouch!! - He's gonna make some enemies with talk like that!" - But I realized there's probably some truth there too (and we don't like "Inconvienient Truth" here in America).

Looks like your as blind as a bat. The idea that if you ban certain guns you will avoid these kinds of attacks is a really dumb premise. You know it wont work yet you continue thinking that you can fool everyone into accepting it. In Australia there was an attack, guns were banned, now violent crime is up 400%.

For a measly 33 cents per day per student you could have a well trained armed policeman at every school in America.

Lets all get with the program and get it done.

Putting Congress on the problem is not the solution. What issues have they solved in the past several years? We have had no budgets passed, no fiscal cliff decisionmade, no illegal alien actions taken, and the economy is a shambles.

Getmadstaymad - For a measly 33 cents per day per student you could have a well trained armed policeman at every school in America.

Didn't help much at Columbine, did it?

Shrekk,

Gon Control didn't work at Columbine either. The Clinton Gun Ban was in effect.

No. I just don't need the government to tell this law abiding citizen what to do. Unlike your kind who wants the government to do everything for them. Hence, no personal responsibility.

onermailliw

I suggest you visit Newtown and talk to neighbors there. It's not about you, believe me.

And my husband and I own guns too.

yeah-and when that person does not take personal responsibility, then what?In this case 20 kids and their 6 teachers are dead-so again,how does personal responsibility come in to this?

Bob G. Trying to be practical. How will banning future sales affect the 300 million guns already in the hands of the mothers of Adan Lansa's out there? I'm not saying banning future sales is a bad idea, but it seems unlikely to really help. And its too important for a "feel good, but accomplish nothing" bit of legislation.

I can agree with most of that. It makes me sad that everyone's in an "uproar" over a completely true/valid set of points made by the NRA chairman. We change the channel fomr his speech, and what do you find on any other channel? Self-involved, socially-disfigured nonsense, a hugely popular musical movement that thinks it's cute to glorify senseless gang BS and mistreatment of women, and an overall entertainment community that has its head stuck right up its ass while being the first to complain about things they clearly don't understand. Then, you turn off the TV to play a "game" - what is it? Goddamn 4/5 of them now are that "first-person shooter" crap. And meanwhile, we have an increasingly egotistical society where the individual can't STAND the fact that he/she is less and less important as the world becomes larger and more "connected". Why aren't we asking ourselves why these people feel inclined to engage in these acts? Our parents/grandparents grew up during a time when conservative ideals, and "gun-favoritism" were extremely proliferant, and regulation was almost nil, but they didn't walk into high school and waste each other simply for the benefit of gaining attention or outdoing each other in body-count. Kids get "bullied" at school, and instead of DEALING with it (like I did; like we all did), they go home and HANG themselves, making sure to videotape it so everyone on Facebook can see it and feel sorry/guilty. Wtf is wrong with you people, blaming weapons when the problem is obviously with the evaluation/regulation of the individual?! Cmon, form your own set of opinions instead of falling into a partisan loophole. I'm not a huge fan of guns, either; never owned them, probably never will. But I can discern between cause, effect, and sunspots. Think for yourselves!

MSNBCMFE

What is an "assault weapon"? Any weapon, firearm or not, can be used to assault someone. A baseball bat can be used as a weapon to assault someone. Are baseball bats now "assault weapons"?

Believe it or not, a semi-automatic rifle, such as an AR-15, operates in the same manner as a semi-automatic pistol. So basically, you want to ban a firearm because of its appearance?

As for magazine capacity (not clips as you like to say), a person with multiple magazines of 10 rounds can do the same amount of damage as a person with 1 magazine of 30 rounds. The VT shooter had 2 pistols with 10 and 15 round magazines and he killed 30+ people. He had 19 magazines in his backpack.

Unconventional:

Why not simply ban ownership of assault weapons by individuals? To enforce the ban simply make the punishment be an automatic 20-yrs. to life sentence if caught with said weapon(s) and/or if someone uses your weapon (stolen or not) and kills someone else. Further, all ammunition for said assault weapons would be included in the ban. Very simple solution.

Weapons owned for hunting (rifles and/or shotguns) and handguns used for personal protection would not be banned. Only assault rifles whose sole purpose is to kill PEOPLE.

If it makes anyone feel better, then magazines/clips should be limited to 9 rounds before you have to reload. That is enough to defend yourself and limits the damage any whack job can do to innocent people.

unconventional-6647560, How about one of the propositions people have placed on the table. Having a yearly weapons registration like we do with cars. If you want your guns so bad, pay the registration fee, much like smokers who kill with second smoke should pay more for their cigarettes. If you want to be involved in a habit/hobby that damages or puts a strain on the rest of society than you should be made to pay for the inconvenience you're placing on the rest of us.

A group in this instance the NRA tries to fight to uphold our Constitutional Right in the face of a tragedy being used by political elites and 1%ers, and they are condemned

The second amendment is a CIVIL LIBERTY

not for one second should anyone back those in power who try to curtail ANY of our Constitutional Rights.

To trade any of our freedoms for a false moment of safety will leave us with neither.

Since when did LIBERALS feel the Federal Government should provide less rights and not more freedoms?

shame on you "progressives"

women should have the right to chose

gays the right to marry who they wish

and ALL Americans the right to bare arms and freedom speech

A child was just hit while getting off a school bus in Dallas........ are you going to BAN BUSES or CARS in order to stop this senseless act from happening again?

Of course not... you will CHARGE the DRIVER with the crime............

A buss loaded with people crashes & burns..... is it the buses fault? The maintenance crew maybe.... might be the driver's fault....... but the BUS?

The left wants to attack the 2nd Amendment rights because they have NEVER taken responsibility for their own actions......

Let's give every American citizen a gun, maybe some training... then maybe on the 4th of July, have a big shoot-out... see who's left standing. Is this what our country has become?

I understand the problem perfectly. But passing new gun laws is not going to fix the problem. Mental health, and recognizing people with these issues and getting them the help they need is a big problem. We are never going to be able to legislate evil out of our collective communities. Maybe peeling back HEPA laws when it comes to mental health would be a start. We supposedly live in a free country, but when evil rears it's ugly head, we try to legislate away. This in turn, removes some of the freedoms we use to have. There are already laws on the books we should be enforcing. I don't condone what the NRA had to say today. I think we need to sit down and discuss real solutions to our problems BEFORE we pass laws that will inhibit others freedoms.

So many of you would willingly give up your rights. The second amendment is not about hunting it is about a natural right to be able to defend yourself and your family. Most of you do not have a clue about the weapons you are talking about. You call a semi-automatic rifle an assault rifle, an assault rifle is fully automatic and are strictly controlled and in limited number in civilian hands. The rifle is commonly, if meaninglessly, referred to as an "assault weapon." But homicides using rifles of any sort are rare, as well as declining. In 2010 there were only 358 homicides involving rifles, compared with 1,704 in which knives were used, 540 that involved blunt objects, and 745 in which the victims were simply beaten to death. So the idea that there is some kind of epidemic of violence involving semiautomatic rifles, or any other sort of rifle, is nonsense. These monsters attack defenceless victims and could have used many methods to inflict their mayhem. The largest mass murders in U.S. history were not done with firearms. The largest school mass murder was done with a bomb. We have plenty of gun laws that the government chooses to not enforce. Federal gun prosecutions are down 40 percent. As more states pass concealed carry laws gun crime has gone down.

Just Wrong,

Please, explain to me how an "assault weapon" is any different than a semi-automatic pistol or a semi-automatic hunting rifle? The only difference is appearance. In fact, the AR-15 (an assault weapon to you) shoots a much smaller round than most hunting rifles or pistols, yet you want to ban it. That makes no sense! Also, much of the ammunition used in "assault weapons" are also used in hunting rifles, such as the .308 caliber. Believe it or not, many hunting rifles use almost the same round as the AK-47 assault rifle! These rounds are so common and used in many different applications that you can't simply ban "assault weapon ammunition".

I agree that it is not the "gun's" fault.

That is not the issue. Of course the shooter, not the gun, is responsible. People kill people. However-guns make it easier though. High clip guns make it really, really easy to kill people-even if those people have guns.

My spouse is former military and he HATES guns. We do not own one and never will. That said, I do not object to guns for hunting or personal protection. However, there is simply no excuse for anyone to own an assault rifle. The sole purpose of those guns is to kill people. Leave those types of weapons in the hands of the military or police, not the average citizen.

An old six shot revolver will do the same thing with a few speed loaders. The problem is the anti gun nuts dont know anything about weapons. A plain old 22 semi auto rifle for rabbit an squirrel hunting will do the same. Just because it looks "Military" its SCARY.

Unchusky,

The VT shooter killed 30+ people with standard sized pistol magazines.

Anaasc: Why should I have to pay a registration fee for my Constitutional Right's? As you going to pay for your right to free speech?

Just Wrong: You can't ban them there are around 2.5 million AR-15's out there where 99.9% of them are used for hunting and any law that takes place now is not retro active. As for banning the ammo honestly that's funny (no offense meant) most serious hunters/sports shooters load their own ammo so how are you going to stop that? Fact is you won't

To the rest fact is you can put all the laws out there you want it will not stop the mass murders. I mean that last one broke 6 laws before he ever set foot inside the school. People intent on doing something like this will find other ways as has been the case in the past.

You really want to get serious about stopping these kinds of things from happening? Address the root of the cause not the vehicle used. Why do people feel like this is their only recourse to take? We need to find the answer to that. Mental health is a serious problem over here as is the drugs given and until that is fixed there's no amount of laws that will stop this kind of evil from happening. Seriously we need to better educate families with mentally ill members and offer them as much help as we can to fix this problem and stop looking at the tool used!!!!

Just wrong,

That's the problem with your argument though. No citizen is allowed to own an assault rifle (assault rifles are capable of full-automatic fire). Just because an AR-15 looks like a full-automatic assault rifle doesn't mean it is one. You want to ban firearms based on appearance rather than function.

he placed the blame on everywhere but on this women and her son having all these guns for protection including an ssualt rirle ms lanza is not here to say how thats working out for her why did she need an assual rifle she had them locked up in a home where what happend we will never know all we know is 27 people lost their lives with that assualt rifle until our congressmen stop being owned by an organization like the nra its just a matter of waiting for the next shooting we dont know where or who but we know its coming

Dave:

Not being a gun owner, I do not know the details of various types of ammunition. However, I do not find any excuse acceptable to not open an honest dialogue about banning weapons meant solely for killing people. Why not ban AK-47's? Please explain their purpose other than killing people? If multiple guns use the same ammo, then why not limit clip size?

There has to be a way to allow people to own guns that also does not promote mass murder. I'd be willing to listen to any reasonable proposal. I just wish the NRA would, too.

Alright to all of you who enjoy the government holding your pecker while you pee. What part of the Constitution don't you understand? There was a reason it was written as such. We are very close to having it the way it was when Britts ruled this country. What do you think will happen once all the weapons are registered? Any tyrant wanting to take control of you or the whole country only has to take that registry and take all those weapons with out any fight. It would be so, so easy. Evidently you people don't appreciate your freedom nor deserve it! Tell that to our service members who made the ultimate sacrifice to preserve it. You people are so superficial. On one hand you thank our service people and on the other you want to throw your freedom away. You want to control guns, but your all for abortions.

Bob G your an idiot with an oudated view. The gunman took the gun it wasn't his. We don't know if the gun was locked away or not. If his mental health is the question then take a bigger look at that. Take a look at video games, since they are deadlier and much more realistic then ever before. A gun is an inanimate object. Only in the hand of a killer is it likely to do harm. Same as a knife, a baseball bat or a pipe bomb. Speaking ofd baseball bats. There are more assaults in this nation by baseball bats far more then by guns. Ban the bats right? Get a clue.

The morons who equate gun death with auto-accident death need to give it up. When was the last time anybody killed their mother, 20 children and 6 other adults, in two separate parts of town, in two separate buildings, and in two separate rooms of one building, all with in an hour before killing himself - with a car?

It's a stupid argument and always will be a stupid arugument!

First off, I am not a member of the NRA, and never will be.

The problem is, these "assault weapons" are being judged based on their appearance, rather than their function. These "assault weapons" are not assault rifles. They function the same way a pistol or semi-automatic hunting rifle function. A legal AR-15 cannot shoot full-automatic, and since it shoots a smaller round than the average hunting rifle, why should it be banned?

I have no problem with limiting magazine capacity, but to be honest, a ban like that isn't going to do much anyways. As I mentioned earlier, the VT shooter killed 30+ people with standard capacity pistol magazines.

All I'm saying is, there is a big push to ban "assault weapons" simply because they look like military firearms. However, when one looks at the capability of the firearm, the differences become significantly apparent.

Actually what the NRA is proposing is more government action. He want armed guards in all the schools..at the very least. This means states and school districts will need the money to do this which translates to more taxation from both the states and federal government to pay for this little army of guards.Who will train and screen the guards to make sure they are reliable?

Apparently he wants regulations on all the computor games and movies that he blames for making kids violent. Who is going to be resposible for deciding what is too violent? I guess we will have to appoint a special agency for that. We already have a movie rating system that he must think people ignore , so we must protect them from their folly.

And to top it all off, he wants a national registry of all mentally ill people! Who is going to decide who is sane or insane?? And even if that was possible, to round all these names, it would require that all who wish to buy a gun go through a screening process to assure they were not on the list of mentally ill people or past violent criminals. Are we back where we started from?

What IS insane is the selling of military style assault weapons with magazines of hundreds of bullets. No sportsman needs or wants one of those. They are meant for only one thing, killing people.

Well said Victor. We have the right to own guns for self protection. Just because some scumbag couldn't handle life and took his mothers guns.. which should of been in a safe without his knowledge of the combination...doesnt mean that you ban all guns and deny our constitutional right to own them. My nephew lives in Tennessee..they have gun classes for them in elementary school. Teaching them at a young age and the responsibility that goes with it is priceless. People are responsible for their own action. This is not the NRA's fault. Just like the saying says...guns dont kill people, people kill people. My heart goes out to the families of these people who were killed. Senseless deaths by the hand of a loser not by a gun maufacturer.

To all libbies:

It's "magazine", not "clip". It's hard to take any of you loony left folks seriously when you have no idea what you are talking about.

I think we need to sit down and discuss real solutions to our problems BEFORE we pass laws that will inhibit others freedoms.

Like the PAtriot Act, right?

anaasc5 suggests a yearly "registration" fee for gun owners. Like all other control recommendations, that would only effect legal, law abiding citizens who would comply. Do you think the gangstas will be lining up? The old adage "If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns" is right on point. The sad truth is you give me $200 and two hours on the streets of ANY CITY in this country and I will have purchased a gun illegally. It is as easy as buying a lottery ticket. As a former Green Beret in Vietnam I want (and have) the right tools to defend myself and my family from any threat to our home.

It's certainly not a new idea as every university has a armed police force. The libs and unions would probably be for a similar system in pre-college schools. It definitely a better idea than banning one particular type of gun to solve a mental health issue. Of course, nobody wants to listen to common sense right now, its about knee jerk reactions, panic, and passing laws that dont solve any real problems just to push an agenda

Let's assume that persons who enter public venues, including schools, to randomly kill, would be deterred from that act by the presence of armed individuals within thoses venues. If this is true one has to seriously consider it as an option. Not only as a deterrent in those considering the act but as an immediate on the scene preventative. How those protectors are intergrated into the venue (elementary schools specifically) without causing undo discomfort for the children would have to be part of the discussion. But this is only factor in an initial intervention. The access to semi automatic weapons obviously has to be curtailed. The NRA has to get on board with this to have any credibility in my opinion. The mental health conversation is obviously the most difficult and complicated factor in finding a solution in the prevention of repeating what happened last Friday.

Instead of dealing with the fiscal cliff, democrats are more interested in gun control.

I think kids are not being raised without family values that were used when families sit down to dinner together years ago and had conversationns with there parents and I agree with the

NRA Rap music ,violent movies.and video games are part of the problem Young people walking around with there pants hanging down and the under clothes out were did that come from ? why wear pants at all just wear your underwear I also see kids walking in the street and when cars are coming they don;t move aside just stand right in the street as if it does not worry them to get hit by a car

@DaveNY, thank you for being rational. AR-15's look different so treated differently. They are being profiled as something they are not. I own one for hunting simply because I served as a Marine and feel comfortable with the platform, I could get familiar with another but why if they are legal to buy. I too don't have an issue with banning high capacity mags, just leave a regular and simply different looking regular rifle alone.

How many uptight parents on here buy adult rated video games and hand them to their teen age children? You know a lot of you do it. These games are violent. I have saw some of them although i am no gamer and i had to think what is the point in all this close up slow motion stuff showing the damage that's done? There is no point in it. This stinking rap (and it's not music it takes no musical talent to produce that garbage) the lyrics and the skanky videos they make with it are no help either. This can't be placed at the door of the NRA or responsible gun owners. It lies with us all. If the people of this country weren't armed to some extent can you imagine the carnage that would be wrought by the criminals in this country? Don't say the police would protect you because they couldn't do anything about it. They can't do anything now.

We should ban anything dangerous to people, including forks, this way lib's will stop putting their eyes out.

quick point of intrest: what happens when one of the armed guards, or policeman has a bad day and goes off like that airplane pilot that decides he can't take it no more along with his passengers, what then?

You can try to blame guns all you want but the truth is we failed as a society. The columbine shooters had been identified as needing help before their rampage. The Colorado shooter was identified as needing help before his rampage and last but not least the CT shooter was identified as needing help. But instead of getting them help we as a society said they had to commit a crime before we could do anything.

LOOK WHAT HAPPENED FROM THAT.

Let's assume that persons who enter public venues, including schools, to randomly kill, would be deterred from that act by the presence of armed individuals within thoses venues.

Nobody would figure out to lure the only armed person first and take care of them before the rest, a guy with a gun is a target but not much more to people determined to cause as much damage as possible.

You friggin anti-gun people are the people who are truly nutz and you make me sick with your ignorance. Most of you morons have probably never even held a firearm let alone fired one. You don't know the difference between a semi-automatic weapon and a full-automatic weapon, which by the way is illegal to purchase or own without being vetted by local law enforcement AND the ATF to get a permit and then pay an annual fee to own. Also, the majority of you couldn't tell the difference between an automatic pistol and a revolver, yet you spew out your stupidity constantly. This country was built by people using guns, (normal citizens for a big part), and has been protected by by guns ever since and that's the only reason we have a wee bit of freedom. I can't put the facts together without much research, but I'll bet you a doughnut hole to a plug nickel that guns have saved the lives of more people in this country than they have ever taken criminally. "I'd rather have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have one." "If you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have them." And, lastly, "You can have my gun(s) when you pry it, (them), from my cold dead hands." If you want to discuss this subject, how about knowing what you're talking about first!

This is for all of you that say, "GO ask someone in Newtown". Why don't you read the dang story.

While some people in Newtown, Conn., said they supported the idea of police with guns in their schools.

Now what do you think about that? If those teachers, someone in that school had been carrying, this

could have been stopped before all of those lives had been taken. You can't stop all of the crazies..

People start thinking with some reason, facts, a brain would help.

Simple solution: Second Amendment covers any weapon design that existed in 1775. Modern, multi-round weapons should require a "drivers license" for the user and a "registration" for each and every gun. The owner of a gun is financially responsible for any harm that comes from their weapon. Only specially screened and trained people would be allowed to get a owners license.

• Problem solved.

Bravo Bonebreaker! The idiots of our country too easily forget how many died to have their Freedom of Speech! Anyone that blames a rifle for the tragic deaths of those kids probably shouldn't have any kids! The government will line them all up like sheep and slaughter them when we go to marshall law and have to learn Chinese! I suppose they should ban cars and boats too! I am a gun owner! It is my 2nd amendment right to do so! I have been through the FBI and CIA checks just to be able to carry one. Maybe we should have open season on these idiots as they are the very core of these trageies. F**cken do gooders!Lock up the wackos! Start executing those that have killed and sell the executions on Pay Per View! Maybe after we execute a few hundred publicly the wackos will think again about carrying out such aweful deeds!

“We have had shootings in shopping malls, movie theaters, schools, colleges – all gun-free zones – so maybe it’s time to take a look at that,” Workman said.

“The prevailing wisdom with a lot of the gun owners is -- it’s about time we started talking about something other than banning guns.”

These murderers will find a GUN FREE ZONE, and do it again... Stop this insanity and lets arm our

Schools with Security Guards, and a few in the Educational Department...

I just paid my home taxes, had to go through the scanners, and guess what was standing alongside,

AN ARMED GUARD... Then I went to the bank, guess again what was standing at the door? YEP!!

STOP these GUN FREE ZONES...Arm American Citizens and allow our Children and others to be safe.

You will all secure our money, the Court House, the President, all of DC with Secret Service, all packing guns, but you won't allow the Children the same security....

You are all PiZZing up a rope with you nonsense.

Siv-n tired what do you think the protocol is to carry a gun? Go try to get a carry permit sometime! What does it really matter!? No guns then the wackos will make bombs or use knives or cars to slaughter us! America need to stand tall and tough and start shooting back!! I guess it's time to play "Cowboys and Idiots"!

The NRA has over four-hundred paid posters whose sole purpose is to collapse and/or counter opinions expressed both here and elsewhere of anyone whose anti-gun arguments are eliciting positive feedback. They also have committees which recruit unpaid members to do the same. Look above and see the end-product of their work.

The very people who hide behind the admonition that gun ownership somehow protects our freedom of speech pay posters to quash that freedom on this forum and others.

Clearly, I don't think armed guards at our schools is the answer. But too many people are talking about banning weapons that have no idea what various weapons are. I know little compared to many, but I do know most weapons are now semi-automatic, like the AR-15, like most hand guns now, so those wanting to ban all these weapons that would mean nearly all guns would be banned. That isn't reasonable. Fully automatic weapons are illegal as far as I know. Those are what many of you are calling "assault weapons". The military has those. Gun owners have cool looking weapons that may "look" like what the military has, but they are not fully automatic. Big difference. When these horrible events happen people want a solution, so it won't happen again. There is no such thing. We do need a full discussion of weapons. But we also need to talk about mental health, the gun culture of most of our inner cities, better background checks as well as the violence on videos, movies, etc. The fact is the idiots that do this stuff are breaking the law....what makes you think they wouldn't break the law to get illegal weapons if you ban them. Mayor Booker even said on CNN that most of the crimes committed in Newark they have found are done with weapons that were acquired illegally. Criminals will be criminals. At Columbine they also used some homemade bombs (some of which did not work). My point is....let's put everything on the table, but we shouldn't create laws that make us feel better but do little to solve the problem. And those touting banning weapons, do some homework so that you can intelligently discuss them. The reality is we can never prevent all of this from happening, but maybe we can do more to decrease the frequency. That has to be the goal. I don't own a gun, but I would like the right to defend myself if I felt I needed it. I also have many friends who hunt that are the best, most law abiding citizens we have.

putting armed police officers in all schools is the only way to keep our children safe. not teachers or anybody else. just trained officers. keep your dam hands off our guns. these libs jumped on gun control before the blood stop running in ct. they they act like they are sorry this happened I believe they were waiting on something like this to happen. Somebody has to be in these schools when some mental @!$%# jerks out his guns to wreak hell on kids or people in the mall or where ever somebody needs to be there to shoot the sob dead then. this @!$%# would stop. but hell no lets take all the guns and lockup hard working tax paying people because we have or own a gun I support the NRA.

This creature broke the law when him killed people. So the anti-gun crowd says that everyone should be punished for the actions of one person. If we follow that logic, banning "assault weapons" is akin to banning sports cars because one person broke the law with one and sped down the street and ran someone over. Personal responsibility means that the person that broke the law is punished, not everyone else.

You gun nuts can't collapse all the anti gun comments. The NRA is made up of gun makers, gun sellers, ammunition makers among others. You ban their guns and they don't make millions of dollars off of idiots that think it's their right to run around with AK-47's. When you piss off enough people whether they are Republicans or not. the people will demand that the government do something about it. It's not the government that wants more gun control, it's the citizens of the United States of America that do!

I have seen many people comparing guns to cars ie: cars kill people but we don't ban cars. While I don't agree with that analogy 100%, let's run with it. I have to be of a certain age to operate a car. I have to take a written test showing I understand the rules of the road. I have to take a road test showing that I know how to safely operate the car. If I want to drive a semi-truck, there are additional requirements I have to meet. I have to register my car and pay an annual fee to my state. My state requires that I have insurance coverage in order to register my car. I have to pay to renew my driver's license every so many years. I have to follow the laws of the road, or I lose my license. Now, are there people who break the laws of the road who don't get caught? Of course. Are there people who drive without insurance, license and registration? Of course. There will always be lawbreakers. I don't see why we can't apply some of these same rules to gun owners. When cars were first invented, we didn't have licnesing, registration, and insurance requirements. We didn't have traffic lights or rules of the road. Now that there are so many cars on the road, it would be utter chaos without the existing rules we have. A gun enthusiast posted on a blog that there are 82 million guns in the US. I don't know if that's true or not, but in any case, there are boatloads of guns in this country. It seems like some formal training, registering, minimum requirements for assualt weapons, etc. might help to reign in some of the chaos. And the same rules should apply whether you purchase your gun at Walmart or a gun show. There are many, many responsible gun owners, and there are many who are not. Like with cars, there should be some way of limiting guns from irresponsible people. Can we keep guns/cars out of the hands of all criminals and irresponsible people? Of course not, but perhaps we can keep them out of the hands of some. Now, in the Newtown case, none of this would have helped because the shooter used his mother's guns. There seems to be a common element to these random mass shootings. The shooter is typically a young, white, male (not in all cases, but typcially). I believe some of them had seen a psychiatrist (Aurora) and I believe more than one of them was on psychiatric drugs. In each case there were some mental health issues. Perhaps dedicating some resources to studying why some people with mental health issues snap and kill a bunch of people while others don't might be helpful. Perhaps studying the effects of psychiatric drugs might be helpful. Perhaps making resources more accessible to people who have loved ones who are suffering from mental illness would be helpful. I don't know what the answer is, but I think we should be having logical, intelligent, discourse about it. "Ban all guns" and "you can pry my gun from my cold dead fingers" doesn't count as logical, intelligent discourse. If we have to live in a world where we have to have an armed guard at every school, how free are we really?

Hey Mr Fids..You talk about the NRA like they are all conservatives. My retired UAW till he dies father would beg to differ with you. Life long NRA member as are all of his union thug friends.

By the way, as for only conservatives and criminals being the only ones left having guns, wrong again. Most of my family are union "thugs" and 2nd amendment supporters. You will get their guns when you pry their cold dead hands from them....

Lastly, to all those who claim civilians with guns would be no match against the US military in the event of a civil conflict, your assuming those in the military would want to side with government to fight civilians. Chances are they would lay down their government weapons and fight with the free people rather than the government.

The last democratic gun ban had ZERO effect on crime or public safety, so we already know that any talk of more gun control is intellectualy dishonest at best. The worst mass murderers in history were Statists who first disarmed their populace.

As sad as this situation is, gun control and more laws will NOT fix the moral and mental decline of society.

McVeigh used a Ryder truck in the OK bombing. Do we now ban Ryder trucks?

Planes we used to level the Twin Towers, and killing thousands. Do we ban the planes?

Evil will always plot their plan. A tool will always be a tool, not matter what it will be. It will be their choice.

It is ridiculous people shouting that the NRA has blood on their hands. Wrong. The cowardly killer has blood on his hands. One that didn't even have the courage to stay around long enough to enjoy the glory that the news frenzy has created for him.

There lies part of the problem.

Hopefully the media will back off this and let the family and friends of the lost grieve in peace. I can't think of anything more cruel than to turn on their TV and see this on 24/7. LET the HEALING begin.

Say what? The NRA doesn't use it's own product? Try to exhale and quit Bogarting that joint.

IDIOT

Let's blame "Car and Driver" for making a buc becuase people use cars to kill people and drink and drive

Come on people every time something happens that involved a gun this crap happens. politicians jump at a chance to bash guns. they want us disarmed anyway obama can't take over if we are armed. To the people that scream we can't have armed people in our schools then come up with a workable solution to protect our kids just don't keep whining about gun control and give us a solution to the problem. There are over 30,000 gun laws on the books now so lets add more because no one can tell you what a quarter of the laws are now. Fact: The majority of gun owners are not going to give up their guns even if they do away with the 2nd amendment, or obama lets the UN take over our gun control. If you are going to rely on the Police to protect you that's fine with me , personally I am not going to wait 15 to 20 min. for them to arrive, I am going to protect my family immediately. Why do you think we have never been invaded? It's because we are an armed society, and they know we will fight back. I personally will not want to protect the people who have been trying for years to take my rights to own a gun away.Let the Govt. protect them. Yes I am a Vet and it's times like this I wonder if we did the right thing fighting and dying for you so you have the right to say what you want and try to deny us our rights to own guns. Doesn't really seem like a fair trade off. So instead of just whining about gun control come up with viable solutions instead. Just as a passing thought when you ban guns are you also going to ban knives, bombs, and all the other ways there are to kill, which includes cars, planes (which has already been done) and the other hundreds of ways a person can kill if they put their mind to it.

I love it really Confused. That's the name you want to use when you are trying to standup for your beliefs. I'm sorry even if I did believe anything you are spouting off about. I just could not look up to you Confused. You are a class A Faux News believer.

Your an idiot too.

those of you who who are jumpin on the ban the guns bandwagon are the same ones that think the guv will take care of everything, excuse me, more realistically you think the guvment is obligated to take care of you, you know, feed you, house you, pay your electric bill, free tuition for college, what else?, oh yeah save you from the big bad gunman! its folks like the anti-gunners that is draggin this great nation to the bottom of the pit! most of us good citizens that own our own weapons, contrary to what the guvment believes and the dems and anti-gun lobby,are smart enough to feed ourselves, pay our own rent and utilities,and bygod we are smart enough to defend ourselves and our families! and generally most of us wish to do just that without interference from $#^%%^%# like the anti-gunners! Police and firefighters and rescue persons are wonderful and they do great jobs! but i choose to supplement their services cause i may not have that 3 to 4 extra mins necessary for them to come across town! god forbid that myself or anyone else finds theirselves in a position thay have to defend themselves but as we all know evil does exist!!oh yeah, i do not apoligize for invoking the good lords name in comment!! if i offended you thats just tough!!!you know, if you dont like the tv program you watching, dont call the station and demand it be takin off the air! turn the dammn channel! in other words, let us live and choose just as we wish for you! and evil doesnt exist because good americans HAVE THE ABSOLUTE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS as recently affirmed by the high court! God Bless our Nation and the good people from SHES!!

"Nuclear bombs don't kill people, people kill people"

So we put armed security in every school in America. Will he/she also have a semi-automatic gun? If yes, what if the "bad guys with guns" show up at just before school is about to start or end, with parents and children all around? Does the "good guys" with semi-automatic guns start shooting at what they think are the "bad guys" with semi-automatic guns? What if some of the parents are also packing? Then who shoots whom and how would they know the difference? I am not even going to get to the police showing up and seeing a ton of folks all with guns shooting at each other.

The NRA should be ashamed of themselves. They are so deep up the tail ends of gun manufacturers, that to them no sacrifice is too high. If there is justice, a number of their loved ones should be the victims of "people killing people" (because guns play no part in shootings) violence. Maybe then they will understand why there should be a ban on large capacity magazines and semi-automatic firearms.

I am not saying that all guns should be taken away, but we must use common sense pass laws to protect most of the people. Everyone walking around with a semi-automatic weapon is NOT the answer.

A group in this instance the NRA tries to fight to uphold our Constitutional Right in the face of a tragedy being used by political elites and 1%ers, and they are condemned

The second amendment is a CIVIL LIBERTY

not for one second should anyone back those in power who try to curtail ANY of our Constitutional Rights.

To trade any of our freedoms for a false moment of safety will leave us with neither.

Since when did LIBERALS feel the Federal Government should provide less rights and not more freedoms?

shame on you "progressives"

women should have the right to chose

gays the right to marry who they wish

and ALL Americans the right to bare arms and freedom speech

I am sure the teachers and students would have appreciated a trained retired policeman.

Kids don't misspell words but pencils do.

Allmill2,

Your post may be the dumbest since fat Al Gore "invented" the internet.

Victor, the Second Amendment WAS a very civil liberty in a time when we were the newest and weakest nation on earth, and needed civilian militia for the very defense of our country. That is no longer the case. The founders never envisioned the types of weapons that are available on the street or the position of strenght this nation would rise to. The possibility of foriegn invasion is nil, so the need of a national militia is also nil and the necessity to have a gun in every hand is as outdated as the need to stone your neighbor for planting different crops in the same field.

It is our own love of violence, and the guns that allow it, that creates the enviroment you fear.

I knew my pencyl was wrung...

When I was in High School we had a cop with a gun back in the late 70's..

But really, what ever this guy would have said was going to be wrong.

My god the Humanity, the NRA wants to have a police force at schools following the liberal idea in Universities. The NRA are acting like liberals and liberals and press are acting like the NRA??????

Who's the bigger hypocrit?

To all the liberals: Remember if they take one of ur rights away from you, they can take them all. I know you liberals made sure you retained the most liberal President ever and his main agenda is to make sure our rights are taken away. One at a time if that is the only way. Btw, I agree to registered guns, oh, wait most of the states require registration. In fact, the gun used at the Conn school was registered by his mother who also lost her life in that terrible tragedy. In this case it was a mentally unstable person using a gun. So people do kill people.

@rdonham The biggest hypocrites are those in the media, they want us to be politically correct and ignore "the reason for the season" but then when there is atragedy they call for prayers.

Ban large magazines, that makes sense, now the shooters will have to pay more money to buy more magazines.....BRILLIANT.

Hit these psychopaths where it hurts them the most , their wallets!!!

Geoff-346112

@rdonham The biggest hypocrites are those in the media, they want us to be politically correct and ignore "the reason for the season" but then when there is atragedy they call for prayers.

Very true

We should also ban pockets on all clothing. With no pockets gunman now have to carry bullets in their hands.

Less bullets= Less deaths.

I should run for president, I'm making sense to the liberal left

Allmill2 not so smart, it would be like having air martialls in the schools. Do you fly? Do kids fly? Do parents fly? Maybe we should ban air martialls, make them carry box cutters since guns are so evil.

Allmill2,

Get a grip on reality.. You are not making sense. These crazies will obtain guns where and when/ever they desire.. The criminal always can get what they want.. LOOK AT CHICAGO!!

You have to protect these Children and that is with an armed US Citizen at the schools. Once the crazies realize the schools have dropped the GUN FREE ZONES, this will help to stop this big time.

@Sarah Reinecke

Columbine had armed guards ... lot of good that did.....

haggisbingo-2225582

@Sarah Reinecke

Columbine had armed guards ... lot of good that did.....

And there are gun control laws saying that young people cant buy or possess firearms.....lot of good that did.....

And there are even more laws about murder ...lot of good that did.....

We should also ban pockets on all clothing. With no pockets gunman now have to carry bullets in their hands.

Mandate public nudity?

The way the world is now with all the nut cases, we really do need armed security at our schools to protect our children. The US military should be used for this job, they are already getting paid. We should be using them in our own country, where we need them the most. I'm sure those guys would much rather be assigned to a school in their own country, then to be out there around the world where they are now. Our country should come first.

Yes, the Hypocrisy on both sides , especially the press is alarming

Just what is so wrong with children seeing armed guards at school? They see armed guards on the street all the time. They are called police. And children are supposed to be taught to go to a policeman when they need help. The policeman is your friend. The guard is your friend. they are there to protect you.

Yes there is truth to some movies, video games and even music being violent but the truth remains every day that goes by there will be some type of violence happening someplace.

I think it would be a good idea for every city, to have trained people, who would be deputised, to Carrie concealed guns, to protect the citizens whenever they could! After the initial training they could attend a class once a week to be trained, and up dated on different things that would help them to be better at being able to do that service. This way criminals would not know who might be armed, and it could make cities safer. They could , also be trained as to how to interact when the police arrive on the scene of a crime, wishing all these problems, would just take care of themselves, will not make it safer.

Armed police or even teachers is not the best of ideas. The answer is not throwing more money at the problem. The NRA should have written some better ideas before giving a press conference. Bad things happen all the time and if people think they can control them they are sadly mistaken. Of all the thousands and thousands of schools in the US crazies are around. If we want to spend money on something how about we use it to educate people about the saftey and use of hand guns. Make those who do not keep there weapons out of the hands of those who wish to do harm responsible. Education is the only answer, not banning guns

Its not the Civil War they're waiting for, its Red Dawn.

School resource officers are commonplace in many locations. These are uniformed, on-duty police officers. They perform many duties at the school related to student safety.

Our district has had positive results with these officers. These folks are professional. Guns are not laying where kids can get to them, and on-campus crimes are generally reduced.

Like all governmental services, the public needs to debate the cost vs benefit of such an arrangement, but I view it as tax dollars well-spent.

The people are being played. This is the beginning of the end of our Constitution. The right to bear arms is not just for hunting or personal safety ,but to protect the people from a tyrannical government. If you believe that the government will always be held in check without the Constitution to limit it, you are very foolish. Once they start tweaking the Constitution hold on, it's the beginning of a Federal government out of control. Every Government official, Soldier, Police officer and Attorney takes the pledge to defend and support the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic . The democratic party did not take that sacred pledge seriously. wake-up people!

"The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun..."

NRA Prez LaPierre.

Nancy Lanza was a good woman with a gun...

As an active sport shooter, I do not condone the actions that happeaned on that horrible day. The thought of something like that happening makes me sick to my stomach. Do I think that some of the video games and such cause disturbing thoughts in some people? Yes and no. It varies on so many levels. I do understand that all it takes is one time, we have seen this before. But, you cannot solve the problem completly by banning weapons all togeather. The NRA has at least put some input in, weather society believes its positive or negative. I agree with you JACKSON-2576676, education is the answer.

Right on, Wilson!!!

"They offered a paranoid, dystopian vision of a more dangerous and violent America where everyone is armed and no place is safe," he said.

Bloomberg doesn't support the NRA. He's some kind of liar and an idiot. LOOK AT THE STATISTICS! Crime has gone down since gun ownership has gone up! We need to allow teachers to carry in school if they are trained and licensed! Criminals and looneys don't subscribe to normal societal morals! The only thing they will fear is for their own life. These kids LEARN this violence on TV and in the movies. Those with mental illnesses don't have the capacity to draw a distinction. TV glorifies violence and gun fights, death and heros. Life imitates art and art imitates life...

haggis, the reason we go to war is for money, oil, lithium, etc.

How come all the focus is on the gun piece and not the individual who pulled the trigger? Is it because it's easier to blame a gun, a magazine, the NRA instead of a slain mother who allowed her mentally ill son access to firearms? No one wants to touch the issue of the failure of parents allowing their children to watch or play inappropriate movies or video games, access to firearms that should be locked up at home or infringe on the "rights" of mentally ill. We rather just blame objects or take rights away from the law-bidding citizens. How many firearms are legally purchased and owned by law-biding citizens that are used in a shooting/crime vs. a criminal (repeat offenders) or mentally defected? If we use this concept is the way to go will we also make all cars the same size and limit vehicle speed max to 50mph so as to prevent MVA accidents....answer...NO.

Ok, let me see if I can do this point by point. I don't think many people actually watched the unabridged version of the speach and only the right wing, edited for television version. Also, from the reaction of our politicians up there, it seems they are the ones out of touch with reality.

1. In his speach, the president of the NRA was NOT suggesting a bunch of looneys with guns as many of you weapons bans advocates are saying. He was calling for using prior service, retired or former police (not sure about the former idea though, they had to get kicked off the force for something), and armed security personel (there are serious mental background checks for most security professionals who do go armed, and courses that they have to pass on what situations are and are not a means to draw). Watch the full video and not just the one up here.
2. In his speach, the president of the NRA also said that the NRA would do everything it could to help raise funds to support the effort with the government. To include paying for it out of member's pockets. Again, watch the full video.
3. Yes, the civil war is over. I have posted on here what the founding fathers idea was for the second amendment, and I just don't have time to go over it again. There are many quotes for those of you who say "they never saw assault rifles and high capacity magazines". Does not matter for their intentions of it. They also believed that we would be responsible enough to raise our young to be responsible with such freedoms. The fact that WE NOW have not fulfilled that promise is not their fault. Learn to be responsible as parents, learn to responsible about weapons and safety with your children, some of these problems go away. FIREARMS ARE A RESPONSIBLITY AS WELL AS A RIGHT!!!
4. Mr Bloomberg, really? Seriously?

New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg called the press conference "a shameful evasion" of the gun crisis, devoid of soul-searching.

"They offered a paranoid, dystopian vision of a more dangerous and violent America where everyone is armed and no place is safe," he said.

Where do you live sir? Have you ever been to Harlem? Aside from Superstorm Sandy or the last election, when was the last time you were out on the streets just talking to the people you govern. I'll bet there are plenty of parts of the Bronx you wouldn't dare go to. Get real you idealistic moron.

Sen. Frank R. Lautenberg, D-N.J., said he was stunned by LaPierre's comments.

"It is beyond belief that following the Newtown tragedy, the National Rifle Association's leaders want to fill our communities with guns and arm more Americans," he said in a statement

Senator, the train has left the station and there is no turning back now. There are plenty of guns in communities. Many under which you yourself represent. How many are illegal sir? How many sold in "under the table deals" in NJ sir? Again, out of touch with reality!! Go talk to your constituents!!!

People will scream and shout "They got rid of guns in Europe and Austrailia, do it here". Again, to those of you...the train has left the station and there is no turning back. It was easier to do this in those places because no other country in the world has ever been as free as this one in weapons ownership. Ever.

Unfortunately, we cannot use our military to police our citizens. That is not what the military is to do. Ever. Using our military for that would make us a true police state. Having police and trained professionals (the way he really did talk...prior service, police, armed security guards...NOT WHACK JOBS!) is a good idea. I'm just greatful that I live in a state that already has police in schools. They are more concerned for my child's welfare then catching a speeder any day.

Well,since crazy nut balls are the ones that kill kids,lets see what makes them crazy nut balls. I think the mention of all the stupid vidoe games are a good start,oh but thats cutting into someones pocket and that can,t happen. I believe 2 of the guns used in Ohio were LEGALLY purchased and registered hand guns. So lets remove ALL guns and the nut jobs and bad guys will ALWAYS get guns. So all YOU ignorant people out there that say get rid of all guns will be the first ones crying will be when bad guy robs,rapes,or kills you. There is really no answer to the problem.This mass shooting will pass as has the Aurora movie theatre and columbine high school. All will calm down and eventually there will be another mass shooting,because thats the violent society we live in today. Lets ban assault weapons and as soon as thats heard the selling of assault weapons will go thru the roof and more of them will be out there than before by a whole bunch. So everone give your opinion they are like as*holes,everyone has one and it will be business as usual in the world today.

all of the ppl against weapons its not about the weapons anyone can get a weapon its easy but the fact of the matter is that there are crazy ppl out there you cant help it or change it if they want to do harm then they will do harm its our nations job to protect guns dont kill people its the people aiming them down range so personally you all need to reallize that the more guns ppl have actually deters violence look at the south for instace everyone has a shot gun and knows how to shoot it you going to steal from someone with a shotgun hell no your not ... pardon my punctuation... please stop hugging trees and pull your head out of you butts

Can you say "Congress shall enact no laws that infringe upon these rights"...

What do the NRA, the President, the republicans and the Democrats have in common?????????

They all blew the chance to take the sensible and higher ground.

This should not even be a "GUN" debate. It should not be a referendum on vidio games. Thsi SWhould prompt all of us to consider the real issue

MENTAL HEALTH. time would be better spent asking why does a nation like Canada who has more guns per capita not have as much murder? Is it diagnosis, is it the kind of meds given to kids with disorders or are behavior problems? Is it environmental? i don't have the answer, but I do have the questions, and do you.

Are armed guards the answer, or would we be better off to try a more modest yet mighty and effecacious step first, to restore prayer, the Golden Rule and decency to the public schools? Wilson above at 9.17 comes much closer to the truth and a solution when he rightly points out that the real issue is the lack of respect for human life, not the presence of Smith and Wesson, in this divided-by-central-design society. BTW, isn't it interesting and special that the central-leadership-void can mobilize their usual suspects so quickly to hold up their centrally orchestrated and centrally generated posters and signs to demonize the NRA and to distract from offical Washington's lack of economic competence and lack of a reliable moral compass ( the central planners now stooping so very low as to exploit dead young children as their human shields to achieve their tired old agendas, so sad) but cannot stop the inevitable demise of the USA as a unified nation of moral and economic strength. What America needs is prayer from within and without the Beltway and faithful, true leadership from within it. Until that reform and restore process begins, America will continue its march into oblivion and irrelevancy, with or without the armed guards. This is a serious comment. Peace and healing to all this Christmas. Certainly pray for these innocent families devastated by violence in CT and elsewhere. Also pray that the shamless central divide and conquer will stop this very holiday season. It will take time, and a change at the top, to make America a country we can be proud of, again, but it can happen. Don't underestimate the power of prayer to bring the change that is really needed to America.

Now I get it - Instead of the mantra "Guns don't kill people - people kill people" it is now "Guns don't kill people - people who watch violent programming kill people" Does this include the Roadrunner and Acme Dynamite?

We could always follow in the foot steps of many Latin American countries where there are armed personnel everywhere. Need to get some asprin? The armed guard will gladly open the door to the neighborhood pharmacy with his shot gun or rifle. Need to get some cash out of the bank? Well your gonna have to wait for him to unlock the door to let you in, then lock it behind you when you enter. Same goes for many upscale department stores. Guns, Guns and more Guns, not to mention their version of a National Guard armed, patrolling in vehicles and on foot. Did I mention that many of these countries have pretty nasty crime rates and murder? Granted this is a much more extreme case like the opposite of our country but we could be headed in that direction if people feel that we need an even bigger presence, "in your face" approach to guns.

never has a do gooder,politican,or the media has ever had a gun law passed that has worked.the only thing they can do or come up with is to blame the gun or the N.R.A. they all refuse to look at the lawbraker.or they are on a soap box to get thier point across or looking for a vote or donation.

i do think yhey should change the wording on the a.t.f. app.for buying a gun to are you or any body in your household mentaly ill.

So conservatives are now calling for bigger government and more unionized police officers, while liberals are calling them names and saying "we cant afford it".

I blame the mayans.

It was only a matter of time before Steve got all hysterical with his Hitler reference. Jesus. You people.

Ban handguns.

haggisbingo-2225582 Comment collapsed by the community

• Banning Assault weapons and high-capacity magazines Is the answer to start with
• They serve NO purpose other than to kill people (and kids!!) in mass quantities

Yes ban large magazines and hope gunman dont come up with the bright idea of putting another magazine in.

Hot diggity damn, Christmas comes early!

The "leader" of the NRA comes out to make a "policy statement," takes aim, and shoots himself in the foot, while it's in his mouth!

PRICELESS! I can ask for nothing better this Christmas!

haggisbingo-2225582

@Sarah Reinecke

Columbine had armed guards ... lot of good that did.....

And there are gun control laws saying that young people cant buy or possess firearms.....lot of good that did.....

And there are even more laws about murder ...lot of good that did.....

All you NRA Gun-nut supporters should go hunting with big Dick Cheney !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ban the mentally ill and murderers

Action movies, War coverage, Police tactical response on news, video games, bullies, any language written or spoken using the k... word. Burn the books, make action movies illegal, including documentaries and all news media censored. That would make everyone nice and friendly, we could even paint lots of buildings pink.

Law breakers dont care about laws. Why hasnt the liberal/communistic slack jaws figured this out yet? Oh, I guess they have. So why is it that they continue to try and take our guns? Not because of anything that has to do with dead children.

The lastest Gallup poll just days after the Conn. shooting shows that gun control is down to 4% ? Thats right, In the days just following this attack in Conn. ONLY 4% of the American public thinks that gun control is the most important thing facing this country.

Lets ban shooting other people and murder!!!

Something I think a lot of people overlooked in this Sick minded Shooter, Why do you think he chose a school over a movie theatre? Why a school over a shopping mall? Could this be because of the simple fact that the Sandy Hook Schools are a gun free zone. Where this guy knew he could enact this type of horror on inocent children before he was confronted?

LaPierre is correct fight fire with fire. If people of the community know there are armed security in schools few will try to invade the premisis.

Columbine was just a little where the individuals used a sniper type position over looking the school because they knew armed security was inside. Had the security not been at Columbine the outcome of that shooting could have, and probably would have been much worse than it was.

Last point to make on this is the Mothers responsibility as a parent. Allowing firearms in such proximity to a mentally deficient son. Did she have the guns stored in a cabinet or a safe with a secure combination? Did the medical system fail the mother, or was it political correctness that did not allow her to have her son declared as a threat.

These questions need answered before any type on knee jerk reaction from the left wing loonies.

In the liberal mind, its OK to not follow some laws. Criminals will know which.

gun control laws and murder - Follow those laws

Pot and drug abuse - ignore those laws

border crossing- ignore those laws

see , us libs have it all worked out

Well... SO MUCH FOR COUNTING ON THE NRA to respond in a constructive yet subtle way.

I thot the NRA was all about avoiding the creation of a Police State? Guns in all schools? What a buncha contradictory JackA$$es ! See?? It is these kind of idiots you do not want making any political overtures on your behalf.

THE FIRST gun magazine that should be banned is Guns & Mammo.

That crap publication is Porn for the Red-Headed StepChild Gun Owner. Articles with pictures makes their "readers" think crazy thoughts; next thing, the gun whacko wants to do what he "reads" about.

Ask anyone with an IQ of over 70.

Wont be asking you then.

Your childish rant filled with talking point name calling diaqualifies you.

Dancing idiot,

How about stopping all the gory, violent movies, computer games and TV shows? Oh, but you'll say it's my First Amendment Right...

And how about our Second Amendment Right?

When our Founding Fathers crafted the Constitution they intended to protect the right of the individual people to keep and bear arms. And every American was to be a part of the militia. For that purpose, they had to own MILITARY GRADE fire arms! So stop the bul$hit about assault weapons...

DancingSpiderman---Explain in detail how the NRA is responsible for any of this. Please include all legal arguments and please detail your evidence. Also explain how having security in schools is a bad thing, along with how this turns us into a police state. So far your only argument seems to be against anything with any real possibility of working. You seem to suggest that is not a good idea but I see police in front of my kids school every day when I pick them up. Seems to me it must be doing something. Anyone who thinks the NRA caused this is a nitwit.

Why would ANYONE expect the NRA to blame a gun for the crime committed by an individual?

That would be like a liberal making ANY concession to the right...............

Nothing will ever change until we willing to look at ALL the causes and ALL the options for dealing with them. Do you think just once, for the sake of our children, we could stop with the political, ideological grandstanding? We must take a good, hard, honest look at the MANY contributing factors: GUNS, VIOLENCE SOAKED MEDIA, and why as a society we are raising SO MANY MENTALLY ILL CHILDREN. And I'm sure we could think of some more.

There are many ways of dealing with this problem---if we work together with some guts. Why guts? Because if we take meaningful action SOMEONE is going to be mad or offended: the NRA and friends, Hollywood (gun-control hypocrites), Video Game producers, yes, even our dysfunctional family units. They won't like us. But aren't you tired of your children being sacrificed on the altar of the 2nd amendment misconceptions, the money-hungry media moguls and our fatherless households?!

"There is clear evidence that tightening laws — even in highly individualistic countries with long traditions of gun ownership — can reduce gun violence. In Australia, after a 1996 ban on all automatic and semiautomatic weapons — a real ban, not like the one we enacted in 1994 with 600-plus exceptions — gun-related homicides dropped 59 percent over the next decade. The rate of suicide by firearm plummeted 65 percent. (Almost 20,000 Americans die each year using guns to commit suicide — a method that is much more successful than other forms of suicide.)"

Bob--Do you have any intelligent solutions? Or is the status quo okay with you?

Since Columbine there has been a police car visible in the parking lot of the schools around here and policeman in the school. I don't see nothing wrong with it. His radio on his belt is also direct communication with the police station for back up if needed. Much faster response than someone calling 911. If a cop says he needs help, they all drop what they are doing and haul butt to his aid.

Lisa: Yes I do.

I was an active duty Marine. I believe in guns. I don't believe that everyone should have access to assault rifles. The hunting bit is crap. You can hunt with a bolt action rifle if u are going to hunt. Why do u need a semi or automatic rifle to go after the animals for? It's supposed to be a sport and actually hunting should be to provide food but some go out there and shoot whatever they see when they see it. Putting real trained police in schools is a great idea, but if u don't eliminate the mass assault weapons they will be at a disadvantage when a nut comes to visit.. Yes the real criminals will find their way to get these weapons but at least they won't be in common peoples hands. anyone can practically walk in and get an assault weapon now. Take the away from them. Why won't we do that? Because the NRA is supportive of the manufacturers of these weapons, people whose only motive is profit. And what the NRA says, the Republicans will listen and u will have these shootings going on and sure enough some cop with a family will be a casualty because of someone coming to blow up the school with an assault weapon and the cop will only have his service revolver. Get real people, we as citizens need to take back our country from these idiots in washington dc who's only motive is to take the money from the gun lobby. Why do we keep voting in the same old people? They are fat cats and don't care for the individual american. I want my country back. I want you people in washington to quit bleeding me and my fellow americans.