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Subscribe to RSSThe body of the gunman who killed 26 people at Sandy Hook Elementary School in one of the nation’s deadliest mass shootings was claimed last week by his father for burial, according to a family spokesman.
Adam Lanza’s father, Peter, claimed his son's remains on Thursday, and private arrangements were held over the weekend at an undisclosed location, a spokesman for Peter Lanza said.
Twenty-year-old Adam Lanza gunned down 20 first-graders and six school staffers on Dec. 14 after first killing his mother in the home they shared in the quiet New England hamlet of Newtown, Conn. Lanza died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound as police stormed the school during his rampage.
A private service for his mother, Nancy Lanza, was held earlier this month in New Hampshire. The Lanzas divorced a few years ago, and Peter was said to be estranged from his son. He has stayed largely out of sight since the killings.
An investigation into the massacre, which President Obama on Sunday called the worst day of his presidency, is ongoing. A federal task force on gun violence is expected to give its recommendations to Obama next month.
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A nation mourns after the second deadliest school shooting in U.S. history left 20 children and six staff members dead at Sandy Hook Elementary.
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No sympathy here. Toss his body into the Atlantic, and not too far to save on diesel. He'd feed the fish, and finally would be good for something.
It was his mind that was corrupt. The moment a body is lifeless, it means nothing. I would treat all lifeless bodies the same, whether it is Gandhi or Lanza.
Adam Lanza does not deserve a decent burial, a memorial service, a wake, or a funeral mass. His corpse should be donated to medical science, and after being thoroughly dissected, thrown out with the rest of the medical waste and incinerated. That is the only purpose his carcass could possibly serve, and to place it in a cemetery with the bodies of good and decent people would be an insult to all of them.
Incinerate his a.s.s...that's the closest to hell as we can get him.
You know, it was most likely his FATHER who claimed his body. His father and brother had nothing to do with this horrible tragedy. They still loved their son and brother and we don't know what exactly transpired in that family. They are grieving, too. Their sentence is far worse......they lived and are having to deal with the aftermath and the angry mobs for something they did not do. So, please, have some compassion, folks.
Imagine how hard it would be to live with the knowledge that your son could do such a thing. Maybe his mother was the lucky one.
"Save the Environment:" as an environmentalist myself (if that is what you call yourself), I find your comments JUST PLAIN UNPRODUCTIVE. Want to move forward from this tragedy? How about standing up for something a little more life affirming, something that offers hope, rather than the self indulgent anger and crudeness you've expressed and posted here.
Mentally ill individual, guns all over the freaking house, a mother who was maybe captive of his mental illness in some way, and military grade weapons available to whomever wants to buy, stockpile and use them -- is that not enough of a problem for you?
Will you feel "closure" when they "toss his body into the Atlantic?" Well, who cares! It's not about you, but you still seem to think that dishing out some additional violent and disrespectful bits of disregard for human life into the dialogue are appropriate at this moment.
Go see a shrink!
It doesn't matter what they do with the body or where it goes. At the end of the day it's not going to make anyone feel better or provide any closure. Just as if you built the biggest memorial for those children in celebration of them, it isn't going to make you feel any less lost and wondering why this could happen.
I'm sure it took his father this long to claim him because he was probably questioning if he even wanted to. The whole thing is tragic.
I don't feel any sympathy for Adam, but I feel it for his dad. I can imagine that Adam's mental issues probably contributed in great part to marital stress between his parents. Even though they were divorced, losing an ex-wife is a terrible thing (a friend of mine lost his wife to drug abuse), and I can't imagine how he must feel having lost both her and his son under such awful circumstances. Adam Lanza's father is as much a victim of Adam's crimes as anyone else who survived them.
Could it be any clearer that the first and third commenters are not joining those who are honoring the victims and their families? Many, many of us are doing acts of kindness in their memory. We are not asking who is worthy of kindness. Indeed, many of us do not know all of those to whom we bestow our random acts of kindness. We seek only to offer up a memorial.
#1 and #3 on the other hand are merely using this tragedy as grounds for displaying their hatred, an excuse for spewing the vitriol boiling within them. They haven't even the decency to stay away from a thread where their comments are totally out of place.
I agree with you Gabelgal. Leave his surviving family alone. It sounds like they tried to do all that they could for him.
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As I father, I would grieve the loss my my son regardless of the circumstances.
Take his remains out to the garbage dump and burn it like one would burn a peice of garbage. He does not deserve anyhting better after what he did.
gabelegal, you make a great point. Everyone want to kill the parents or relatives of the shooters because they are shocked at the murders yet they are thinking exactly the same as a murderer??
People like the parents of George Zimmerman are in the same boat with constant death threats. Violence does not change violence.
if he was anyone in any of your families, you would do the right thing and claim his remains and have the service , also. his father did not or does not deserve all these nasty comments from disgusting and hateful people such as the ones psoting here. remember jesus said to walk in his shoes before you cast any stones! adam was and will always be remembered as a killer, but his father and family still has many happy memories and i am sure many broken dreams in thier hearts. he still was thier son, brother, cousin and family. leave them alone! he is being judged for his actions, by the one and only one who does that job.
The body should be buried under a headstone with the caption "Here Lies the Son of Satan."
An alternative would be to chop the body up and feed it to hungry lions or tigers.
Since he is already in Hell, it matters very little!
To you guys with the "Burn in hell" attitudes, Grow up man. It's human dignity to give anyone on the face of the earth a proper burial regardless. I do not like what this kid did any more then you guys.
Look what we did with Bin Laden. We gave him a proper burial within 24 hrs abiding by his religious belief and Look what the Fk' he did so take a chill pill.
We all have to stand at the "Pearl Gates" one day and ask if you may proceed. Only then, will we know...
Have a nice day...
CD
So what should we do with the 847 people the USA police has shot and killed this year, and remember only 11 were shooting at the police-----That was done by 1363 police people, so should we send them all to the wood chipper?
Get real people and make sure you actually know the real world instead of hanging your hat on this one sick person, 74 other people were killed by guns the same day as New town (as every day of 100), and some were children. AND the police killed 11 that day in traffic "accidents" in USA as usual!
Desecrating his body won't show him anything, he is dead, it is just plain stupid to take your anger on a corpse.
If u are a parent u know that even if u were not close that no matter what u love your child. And all his dad is doing is to take the burden off of society of burying his son. Yes there are real low life haters out there or else they just talk big but even as sick as i am about this tradgedy, i am not so screwed up that i would deny him a burial. There will be someone out there that finds out where this burial was and i would give vegas odds they will descerate the grave and only keep the grief flowing. Thats called no sense.
What happened to the link to the LICOR story? I don't believe it was the deleted sheepled. It just disappeared. Kind of an uncanny coincidence. GE didn't pay taxes on how many billion?
R.I.P
Creekdog- as always you speak from wisdom, thank you.
May we all have a happier New Year ahead!
Dear hearts,and gentle???people. There is absolutely nothing anyone can do to erase what has happened with the killing of these children and their school staff. Yet, the comments herein reek of some savage expressing hate and disdain for a father trying to get closure...if that ever happens...with what his son did. My experience(age wise) is that a tragedy brings out the best and the worse in our human animal beings. This father did the right thing to claim his son's body and bury it with whatever little bit of dignity he has left. As a father and grandfather and a GGF, have those relating their hatred for the acts committed by Adam Lanza caused them to move closer to what he embodied? To have a good, positive, obeying child is a blessing and to have a rebellious, criminally oriented child causes great concern for all especially when that child kills another human or is imprisoned. Many of the contributors and remarks left, show that you too have problems...maybe with parents, spouse, children(if you have any) and society in general. Remember random acts of violence and kindness reflect what we are as individuals and a society are as a whole. Note: I retired 10+ years ago as a teacher, principal and administrator over a 39 year period. I know from where I speak and children are our greatest gift and their parents may and can be the greatest problem to stall their growth into adults. Yet, this father of Adam Lanza will forever be attached, by society, as the father of a killer. The mother can't speak!
It would seem our hatreds tend to consume us. Happy New Year Y'all!
Creek Dog, #1.20- Exactly. I noticed that, too, about Bin Laden and thought it was one of the most respectful things Obama ever did. The Conn Shooting was the worst day of his Presidency and in a way, I kind of thought of his respect for Bin Laden's burial to be "the best" Day of his Presidency, as far as with a showing of "Rising Above" the clamor on the most Humanistic level.
Without turning the Shooting Victims into Matyrs or anything, They also CANNOT be left to be "as having died in vain", in any way, I believe. That's the BALANCE. Just sayin'
I agree! I'm sure there is a special place in Hell for pricks like this!!! BUT, I do feel for his family. I couldn't imagine the pain, disbelieve, embarrassment, other emotions, etc. that would be forced upon these people. I hope they can find solace somehow, someway, someday....God bless.
Gablegal
I couldn't agree more. A lack of respect for life and others in this country is a profound part of the problem evidenced in Newtown. Whether one agrees with what this young man did or not (and I would expect no one to agree with it), it behooves us all to understand hat somewhere along the line, Adam Lanza's life was lost also. Everyone is someone's sibling or spouse.
Aren't you a wonderful human being?
To those of you who criticize my post as being a display of anger:
You are right, I am angry at the loss of 20 young children. But I am full of love for them and have sympathy for their families as well as toward Lanza's father.
If I was president I would order seized and melted all AR-15 type weapons, and handguns would have to go as well except in very, very select cases.
If a 20 year old is not a man of his own, while a 17 year old can hold a gun in service to this country then you are soft pulp fruits and are part of the problem. All the BS, greed, political correctness, everybody-is-special, corrupt politics, financial aid to America-hating country would be over as well.
And I'll add that if this country is to go forward it most likely will have to evolve in the direction of my thoughts.
I stand by my first comment: to the fish.
Let me see if I understand this. It took the father what, 3 weeks to claim the body and we are wondering what went wrong with this kid? Seems to me there was a Daddy issue. Regardless, his acts were vile and he is a villain, but he is dead and as such should be left to rest in peace. Not our place, at this point, to do anything other than pity his family.
Peace!
I sincerely hope the father has friends and family to help him through this tragedy. As some other posters have said he probably tried his best to stay part of his son's life and that the strain of his son's illness likely contributed to the end of the marriage. I recall the reporter who accosted him in the immediate aftermath saying his visage turned from surprise to shock and horror. Nobody should have to bear the pain that comes from such a senseless event. At one time his dad likely held his newborn son, full of hope and happiness and it ended in this horrible fashion. Utter devastation.
Fubar77,
You need to understand that Science held up this kid from even being claimed. They wanted to take tissue samples etc.. before him being buried to see if there is something we can figure out in the future what triggered this kid to do this.
Even if we don't have the technology now, they put them in liquid nitrogen until we do have the technology.
I'll bet my paycheck that they removed his Brain for exactly this reason. (Whatever's left of it anyway)...
I'll also bet my paycheck that people are going to hear where he's buried, locate the burial and desecrate the headstone. I'll also bet that some crazy cult or something will exhume him and we'll never know where the body went.
Nowadays, this wouldn't surprise me at all...
The young mentally off kid is dead, we all know what he did was wrong. The family gets notified to pick
body, your not given a choice. The media has played this to no end for their own purpose and that did
not have the children & teachers who lost their lives in the best interest. They were only there to
show another mass shooting. The media never said a peep about the shooting in San Antonio, TX.
two days later where a man walked into a restuarant and shoot his x-girlfriend then proceded into a movie theater (movico 14) next door where he had 4 bullets pumped into him before he could kill
anyone else. How did the media miss that one, oh thats right not on there agenda telling the facts
In reference to Bin Laden -- his burial had nothing to do with his religious beliefs or Obama's so-called "goodness" -- it was decided to dispose of his remains expeditiously and send it to the bottom of the Arabian Gulf so that his martyrs could not retrieve it for their own purposes.
Did anyone else see the link to the story about LICOR? Apparently Lanza's father is a finance lawyer for GE and was slated to testify. Coincidentally the CO shooter's father was also to testify. The link disappeared, not deleted, it just disappeared. I cut and pasted a paragraph from it and it would not post here. That also disappeared from my cut & paste box when I tried to recover it. It should have still been in there.
Again, what's this about GE not paying a dime in taxes on billions of profit? GE, the owner of MSNBC...
If you people are not related to the victims....maybe you need to shut the fuk up altogether. You people turn this story into all about you and your pathetic comments along with the fuking lynch-mob mentality.
Get a fuking life..........
Thats quite comical that people fall for this stuff still. What Obama did was a farce! He displayed a "staged" burial at sea! Had he really beed killed or caught (when the official story said it happened), it would have been dealt with differently. Politics is a dirty and sneaky game, but they play it well!
save the environment, #1.32- EXCELLENT!!! You should be able to STAND by your comment. AND, the rest of us SHOULD also be able to STAND by our comments and NOT BE COLLAPSED! I think you bring up an EXCELLENT! point about "ANGER". Not just PC-"frustration", but "ANGER", as it exists. It has to be named and addressed in order to figure out how to direct it, instead of all this "MISDIRECTED-PC-frustration".
Happy New Year! to you, save the environment. I THINK THE ANSWER TO GLOBAL WARMING IS IN "SPACE". Beginning with all the "SPACE TRASH" in orbit and the "take-over" of the Moon; with a "precursor" to that being of whatever it was that THEY just decided to IRREVERANTLY CRASH INTO THE MOON A FEW YEARS AGO TO SEE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN!!!
@ fubar77: "Seems to me there was a Daddy issue."
Then why did he shoot his mother in the face several times in an execution style murder?
OK, here it is... (Google it)
After spending many years hunting down the world’s most wanted man, why did the U.S. bury Osama bin Laden at sea within 24 hours of killing him?
The reason is bound up within Islamic practice and tradition. And that practice calls for the body of the deceased to be buried within 24 hours
Read more: http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/05/02/why-was-bin-laden-buried-at-sea-so-quickly/#ixzz2GeuZ9PCI
Navy Vet huh?! Hmmmmm...
mqira
Ummmmmm, looks like you're the only person in the world that knows this huh?! LMAO..... Daddy work for the CIA?! LOL. No, really, you think he's still alive?
If BL had been killed, then please tell me how "differently" it would have been dealt with..... Easy to say huh?! Heh heh. OMG man.....
Some of you guys really crack me up man.
Anyway,
Happy New Year to my fellow Americans. Yes, we "all" have our own opinions however, we're neighbors and "Love Thy Neighbors!" ;-)
mqira, #1.40- Thank you for replying. I think there is a difference between Cynicism and Distrust. (and the "Wisdom to Know the Difference") is what is sorely lacking these days.
The President also showed GREAT Respect for "the Other" by not releasing the photos that he was rabidly being pressed for. You know, I never got to comment on the Photographer that captured the Man being hit by the subway train and killed. Did THAT have to land on the Front Page of a Newspaper, JUST BECAUSE HE HAD IT??? Remember, Guns don't kill....PEOPLE DO.
I have to go now. My Son is waiting for me to watch a Movie. Good Will Hunting. I'll try and check back, later.
Thanks Mistery, Happy New Year to you too.
And Happy New Year to all. I mean it, I wish you all a good new year with happiness.
Man..... You religious folks are some dreamers I tell yah.. Holy crap.
On Lanza: We know very little about life in the ocean that Bin Laden was tossed into let alone the complexities of the human mind. That is to say, not nearly all the life on this planet has been discovered and data based, and we can admit to that, yet we are so arrogant in assuming this guy had a "choice" in doing something violent? Not to make excuses for this guy, but there is no outside force that has a say in the matter, no judgement possible beyond when he put the gun to his own head. Whats more for all you know we molded this event when we ostracized him for being different, and we aggravated the chemical imbalance in his brain when we fed him anti psychotics. That's just a thought, but I will not be so dismissive to label him as just an "evil" person, and say "this @!$%#'s gonna happen regardless." Moral of the story, fund psych research.
On Lanza's body: Who cares it's a f**king body. I'm sure the father is not expecting a candle lit vigil and a statue for his son in the town square.
On Prancer and Vixin: Happy new years!
-Status-Unknown
Listen to and look at all you people who claim to be so intelligent but are willing to sit there and let the bank owned media spoon feed their version of the truth in this matter. I suppose it would be too outlandish for any of you fear-filled sheeple to wrap your heads around the fact that not a single authority has provided any evidence that indicates Adam lanza was the shooter in this case. All of you are so busy needing to be provided a scapegoat to assuage your fear that you're willing to "witch-hunt" instead of seek the real truth. Here are some links to enlighten yourselves with before you allow the Pied Piper to guide you over the edge of the cliff into the abyss of slavery.
http://www.businessinsider.com/sandy-hook-man-in-the-woods-video-2012-12
http://chemtrailsplanet.net/2012/12/19/does-lanzas-alleged-bushmaster-ar-15-assault-weapon-really-exist/
and please be sure to watch ALL the video at the above link
and finally there is this,
http://www.naturalnews.com/038502_Adam_Lanza_evil_gene_genetic_profiling.html
and in light of the fact that today the mainstream media is claiming Adam's father is claiming his body just makes their story too convenient.
Because the mother was the only one available. There definitely was a father-son issue. The father and the brother stayed away for about two years.
There was a reason why this guy had his brother's ID on him. He was angry with his brother and wanted his brother to go through hell in those hours after they found his body and it worked.
Ph uck all of you" mount it on a wall ..sh--house wall
Creek Dog,
I think you are the only one that makes any sense on newsvine.
Way to go, Lusistania.........What's the problem?
I wish to all -- Happy New Year ! -- even unto all the crazy Haters Of Our NewsVine ! (you KNOW who you are, no need to chime in)
That had to be the toughest job any father ever had to do.
Yes...definitely, fly. I can't imagine.
AWKWARD
Probably not tougher than having to identify the body of your dead six-year-old.
It’s horrible to have to bury a child killed by some maniac. It would be far more difficult to deal with the fact that your son was responsible for 26 deaths of innocent children and adults. The Dad's grief and feelings of guilt must be awful. The whole idea of what he may or may not have done different to keep this from happening would have to weigh heavily on him.
Different I'm sure, but not any less tougher. Still a parent burying a child.
Well, whether you were the identifying the body of a 6-year-old or the body of a 20-year-old, they were all someone's children and it's not any easier no matter what age you are. Adam Lanza was mentally ill and his parents should have seen to getting him help in his early childhood, but I get the idea that one parent probably wanted that and the other did not-he was the reason they divorced, I get the feeling the mother did not want to admit his problems and she kept it hush until she couldn't deal with him anymore and was finally going to put him somewhere which angered him. Seems like the father washed his hands of him, they were estranged. I would think it would be very hard on his father to have to identify him and bury his son too, afterall most parents love their children no matter what and it has to be very hard for him knowing what his son did to these children and teachers. But like I said, both of these parents knew their son was mental and should have done something to help him a longtime ago. Mental illness just doesn't go away, it is always there.
Amen! You said that beautifully. It is so true!
It isn't really a contest, invisible. Really it isn't. Everyone involved hurts, and burying your child is a nightmare.
Whether you're the parent of the suspect or the victims.......I can't imagine the pain they're going through. It's unfortunate all the same.
75% of marriages end up in divorce when there's a special needs child involved. And it's usually the dad who bails....just when he's need the most.
I would think that this father's grief would be worse than having to bury your 6 year old child. You have to bury your son, and also know that he took the lives of so many innocent.
You don't know the circumstances behind the Lanza's marriage or divorce, Oneman
The father could not claim the body until it had been released by authorities. I'm sure there were security issues to be addressed in connection with release and disposition of the body given the circumstances. Although apparently DNA will be studied most scientists have expressed the opinion that there is little or nothing to be gained of predictive value. The divorce was amicable and no indication of a legal battle over Adam's care at the time the divorce occurred. It has been widely reported that Adam cut off contact with his dad and his brother after his dad met the woman he later married. We also know that Mt. Lanza decided to pay more in alimony than he would have been required to by the courts.
Re: special needs and divorce, there is little actual data. However, studies that have been done have found a lower divorce rate for parents of children with Down Syndrome, higher for parents of kids with ADHD (for which there appear to be genetic links, so the divorce rate could perhaps be attributable to parental ADHD) and no difference for ASD.
Although there have been reports of Nancy seeking services, conservancy, or committal with regard to her son, clearly nothing legal had been filed or reporters would have tracked it down, and if she had spoken to legal or medical professionals--or Adam's father-- they have said nothing.
this so called father and no interaction with the monster son. i think both of them should be pulverized and dumped into the ocean.
Henry,
Per earlier articles in the following days after the shooting, the father stated he tried to remain in contact with Adam after the divorce and Adam wouldn't talk to him. The father tried everything he could and got no response. The father isn't to blame for Adam's actions as Adam refused to have anything to do with his father after the divorce took place. So place your anger regarding Adam's actions on Adam, but not the father as he is a victim of losing a son long before Adam took the lives of the children and educators.
Because weapons have been banned from Congress for over 125 years. Although a GOP house member from Texas wants to allow congressmen and senators to concell carry while in the chambers. I guess he never read any history,
I cant imagine anything more horrific than this. Knowing that your dead son killed so many children.
Really Fox? You felt you had to spam your post after every reply on here? Jeez, dude. Ease up.
some people need the truth crammed into their faces in order for it to get through their thick skulls or they will just continue to be fear-filled, easily led sheeple. Just trying to get these idiots to wake up.
And spamming is the best you come up with? Good luck with that.
you have a better idea State?
State of Awareness - I agree. Very few people would believe that the accused shooter did not do what he did.
Some people have said they should have thrown his naked body on top of the roof of the school, so the crows and other scavengers could have at it.
That sounds fairly extreme. However, what is the proper way to dispose of the remains of a vile, evil, miscreant?
For many people, it is very difficult if not impossible to be compassionate and forgiving to anyone who would do such a dastardly deed as to murder young children and their teachers, and his own mother.
No, I don't. But spamming is the quickest way to be ignored. As evidence starts coming out that there were other people involved, that is when people will get a better idea, but seeing as no other information has been released since these other arrests, spamming articles that are 2 weeks old doesn't help change anyone's mind. People will always speculate and jump to conclusions until evidence is produced to say otherwise.
Whistles, not a single authority has come out and said that Adam Lanza was the shooter so your statements and their basis are only on the claims of what you are allowing yourself to be spoonfed by the media here.
State, do you ask yourself why no other reports are coming out or do you just accept that it must have just been some sort of anomly, a glitch in the matrix? And maybe some aren't aware of the 2 week old reports or the report of his body being used to research the "evil" gene so now the authorities can begin to profile us by our DNA as dangerous to society without even committing a crime.
I don't trust the bank owned media or the government to bring out anymore evidence or information than what is convenient for them to bring out and gun control seems to be their theme here so they have served their agenda well to go with the "Adam Lanza was defective" story and bury the truth.
Devil's Son:
As a person who carries a concealed weapon, If you can't spell it, you don't have the brains to actually carry one.
The media hardly ever gets the story straight they tell you what might make sense but won't make any sequestering facts..
its a shame this has happened but some can read between the lines so bring the story out or don't bring it all..Are we village people here, hey pop.
delete my post if you want to mainstream media, you effing cowards, report the truth and we won't have this problem but you can try to crush me and my message but your masters are still murderous liars and you will have to answer for your complicity when you stand before the ALMIGHTY, so delete it again from here you chickenşhits
Listen to and look at all you people who claim to be so intelligent but are willing to sit there and let the bank owned media spoon feed you their version of the truth in this matter. I suppose it would be too outlandish for any of you fear-filled sheeple to wrap your heads around the fact that not a single authority has provided any evidence that indicates Adam lanza was the shooter in this case. All of you are so busy needing to be provided a scapegoat to assuage your fear that you're willing to "witch-hunt" instead of seek the real truth. Here are some links to enlighten yourselves with before you allow the Pied Piper to guide you over the edge of the cliff into the abyss of slavery.
http://www.businessinsider.com/sandy-hook-man-in-the-woods-video-2012-12
http://chemtrailsplanet.net/2012/12/19/does-lanzas-alleged-bushmaster-ar-15-assault-weapon-really-exist/
and please be sure to watch ALL the video at the above link
and finally there is this,
http://www.naturalnews.com/038502_Adam_Lanza_evil_gene_genetic_profiling.html
and in light of the fact that today the mainstream media is claiming Adam's father is claiming his body just makes their story too convenient.
The man is burying the son he knew, not the murderer.
Let this be the end of discussing this person, he doesn't deserved to be remembered by the public. Remember the names of the children and adults who were killed!
Funerals are for the living. This is the last thing that Peter Lanza will do for his son - ever. Mr. Lanza must live with this horror for the rest of his life. He has a long, hard road ahead of him. He has my sympathy.
what part of "there is no proof that Adam Lanza was the shooter" and the fact that none of the authorities have offered any evidence that he was the shooter are you people not quite seeming to understand? By disseminating your opinion here that Adam Lanza was the shooter you merely become a parrot to the mainstream media and you help to perpetuate their lies and advance their agenda by advancing their propaganda because anything that says that Adam Lanza was the shooter is nothing more than propaganda intended to advance the anti-gun, disarm America agenda. But go ahead, keep WITCH HUNTING if it helps to easy your fear you cowards. Personally I think the innocent dead at Sandy Hook deserve to have the truth exposed but the mainstream media won't be bringing you that story.
Gotta love the censorship on these discussion boards by some of these self-appointed censors. Censorship of the spoken or written word by the common citizen, one against another, is the truest sign that fascism has taken hold. Sorry if you're too frightened to face the truth of what I'm telling you but it is not your right or your authority to have my comments collapsed or deleted. By doing that you are simply making yourself a pawn to the banks and corporations.
Fox you are an idiot, big time
I have a question. Were there surving children or adults that could identify the shooter? Also, if Adam was not the shooter, why would the shooter randomly kill Adam's mother. I don't believe everything I read Fox, but you are only on this site to hear your own self ramble on. You yourself do not sound stable. I am not a robot person. I have strived most of my life to be a leader not a follower, and it is sheep,. You need to learn to spell if you want to be taken seriously. You are out of your league here. Your are actually very amusing. Most mildly mentally ill people either are amusing or annoying. Which are you Fox?
See I even make spelling errors. Maybe I'm the unstable one. Maybe I am a follower. Nay I just can't spell or maybe I am the shooter.
Jan- You announce that you have one question, but then you ask two. If you aren't being supplied the answers by the MSM or the government, shouldn't you start to realize that they are working in cahoots with one another to make you believe something that they are also unwilling to PROVE is factual?
Learn to demand answers from the authorities. Don't disingenuously expect the skeptics and conspiracy theorists to have all of the answers. All we know is that it hasn't been investigated properly; no subpoenas, no public hearings, no public evidence displayed. That is wrong, here in what used to be the USA.
A "proper burial" is something spiritual that I dont believe he deserves. Should have just dug an unmarked grave, thrown him in, thronw some lime on top and thrown the dirt back in. A priest needs to offer prayer for him when he meets God? I think not. Secondly, for people to have the bleeding heart for a psycho murderer is terrible. Oh we should cuddle and hug and think of him fondly after he shot all those little children and mentally scarred the rest of them. Now lets put it in perspective. You picture your own child going to school, playing with their friends, looking at everything around them with big innocent eyes, little hands raised to speak in turn...Now picture them scared, crying,clinging to their teachers for dear life--terrified, calling out for their mommy or daddy and then being ruthlessly shot to death by this guy. F him--he doesnt deserve the common decency.
Wow, this I_Am_The_Fox character is exactly the demented nut job that we need to take action against. He needs to be institutionalized, he is clearly in need of professional mental health. Fox, why would anyone not want to find the killer, its obvious Adam Lanza is the killer, he killed his mom, used HER guns and killed a bunch of innocent kids. Get a grip man, your a lunatic.
AMAN26: You seem entrenched in willful IGNORANCE. What PROOF has been provided to you that Adam Lanza killed himself, his mom, the teachers, or any of those kids? NONE.
Evidence exists, but that isn't the dtandard of proof here in the USA. The alleged evidence must be presented while its presenter, the "witness", is under oath. Has any of that evidence been presented to you while under those conditions? NO.
You are being punked. They are playing on your ignorance. Just because Adam is dead, doesn't mean he died the way you are only being told, not proven.
Burial is too good for him.
Depends on where you bury him at.
Hateful, Invisible. He was still someone's son, and, at some point, someone's hope for a bright future. Have a little compassion for the parent who must carry the guilt burden his own child was incapable of even understanding.
Invisible - your attitude towards people with mental health issues shows that you are a part of what is wrong with this nation and not part of the cure. Adam did not choose to have mental health issues. He did not choose to have to rely on his mother for support. But if it is easier for you to call him a monster and pure evil instead of admitting that as a nation we have FAILED to assist those unlucky to have been born with a metal health issue, then go right ahead.
Invisible,
Right, he should have been thrown in your front yard.
I.M.Moroni,
Your comment is as bad, or worse than, Invisible's.
laure, I disagree...invisible doesn't have mental problems. He's just an idiot
Invisible and I.M., if you are a religious person then Adam Lanza has been judged and is receiving his deserved eternity. If you don't believe well, there is nothing. In either case, the body is nothing more than fertilizer. Whatever you do with the body, Adam Lanza couldn't care less. Funerals are for the living.
Listen to and look at all you people who claim to be so intelligent but are willing to sit there and let the bank owned media spoon feed their version of the truth in this matter. I suppose it would be too outlandish for any of you fear-filled sheeple to wrap your heads around the fact that not a single authority has provided any evidence that indicates Adam lanza was the shooter in this case. All of you are so busy needing to be provided a scapegoat to assuage your fear that you're willing to "witch-hunt" instead of seek the real truth. Here are some links to enlighten yourselves with before you allow the Pied Piper to guide you over the edge of the cliff into the abyss of slavery.
http://www.businessinsider.com/sandy-hook-man-in-the-woods-video-2012-12
http://chemtrailsplanet.net/2012/12/19/does-lanzas-alleged-bushmaster-ar-15-assault-weapon-really-exist/
and please be sure to watch ALL the video at the above link
and finally there is this,
http://www.naturalnews.com/038502_Adam_Lanza_evil_gene_genetic_profiling.html
and in light of the fact that today the mainstream media is claiming Adam's father is claiming his body just makes their story too convenient.
Throw the body in a landfill.
I feel sorry for the father and the rest of the family. No matter what Adam's criminal act did, he still deserved a decent burial. Show some respect for others, people and stop your ignorant comments.
Sorry, killing children doesn't warrant a decent burial in my book, Bill.
The burial in never really about the person being buried, it is for the family left behind. As horrible as this young man turned out to be, and whether or not his father was estranged from him, there is still a parent who is left behind grieving the loss of his son (both before and after his death).
No, he did not deserve a decent burial, or anything of the sort. His name should be erased from all history, and his remains incinerated with the trash. That is what he deserves.
As horrible as what he did was - he was still a 'child' himself. Look at it from the father's point of view - then get back to us. Of course his father will 'collect the body'. He was his son.
Of course it's all in how you look at it. The act of burial never did appeal to me; rotting corpse, maggots all over a once lively body. The only memorial and sentimental part of a grave is the plaque. Give him a proper grave, with a plaque that says "here in lies a coward that took many innocent lives with him, may he never rest in peace"
You're right, Bill. It is still his son. I can only imagine how he and the brother feel about having someone like this for a relative and not even knowing how sick he really was. The guilt they will carry forever will be enough to ruin their lives. Doesn't matter where or how you bury him now, it won't undo what happened. I know they say he was mentally ill and may be so but I think we don't want to believe that anyone is really THAT evil.
amen bill........people are so nasty and they only bring themselves down to the level of the disgraced!
I've tried to put myself in both side's shoes, I more than likely would not be able to survive the death of my child. Then to try to imagine what it would be like to KNOW my child did this to someone else's family? I don't think I would be able to live with myself with that either. it's a lose lose no matter which side.
Mymomdidnotraiseafool .....Nothing personal but, are you sure about that?! You may want to take a chill pill and read up on life. Seems you need to harness your hatred a bit.
In the nose.............Out the mouth..............Slowly...................
G-Afternoon Mrs. Fitz
You're right and almost everyone else replying to you is wrong.
Mymomdidnotraiseafool? Yes she did. She raised a hateful one, and that is the worst kind of fool. I'll bet you consider yourself a Christian, too. What a farce.
Too bad, KatBar. I have the right to hate this subhuman POS for what he did to innocent people, and all the hand-wringing about giving this vile, filthy animal a burial is just that - hand-wringing. Why anyone can feel like that this disgusting, murdering, and now rotting piece of protoplasm is deserving of any decency is beyond comprehension.
No, I don't claim to be a Christian, and your presumption of such is indicative of your inability to think critically at all. Do you know what the word farce actually means? I doubt it, since your stupid and erroneous presumption was what you were hoping would support it. I reserve hatred for those who truly deserve it, and Adam Lanza is more richly deserving of it than anyone I can think of in at least the last ten years.
If you don't like it, then tough! If that sack of monkey dung had survived the massacre, you'd probably be one of the morons bleating that he now needs sympathy and treatment, not punishment. It's people like you that make me sick.
No he does not deserve a decent burial. A decent burial is to honor the life of the dead, and mostly for the living who are still connected to their memory. In a way we are all one, but I don't feel connected at all to this young man. When is it that as a parent you are less responsible for your grown children's action in the sea of humanity?
Cry me a river...poor Hitler.
God decides who will rest in peace.
Myself, I think that someone who likely lived his whole life in a mental hell should not have to spend eternity in the same.
If we can not, will not forgive, as so many of the parents, relatives, and friends of the children and teachers have said that they would, then what hope is there here on this site?
Forgiving is not the same as forgetting, or ignoring, or sweeping under the carpet; I hope that forgiving includes making the world a better place, and find ways to do so.
Looks like my first step would be to get off this contentious site. My thanks to you who are seeking and sharing peace with one another.
If there is any scientific value in it at all the body should have been donated to science in the memory of the victims. In the hope that something might be added to knowledge that might stop the next case of this kind of berserk murderous rampage.
David,
Very good thoughts.
Mymomdidnotraiseafool,
Whew! Feel better now?! Easy man. I understand where you're coming from but still. It's all good man. Relax! I seen a lot of good posts by you but, there's times that enough is enough.
You do not have to defend yourself (even though I must say that I am guilty of that a lot myself, LOL)
KatBar,
Look, even if you do not like what someone posts, that's what this vine is for. You see, opinions are like @!$%#s, we "all" have one...
I responded above to his comment but, if you read it, I was basically sayin' to just try and relax. Yes, he is a high strung person who is extremely pissed at what happened but we're all pissed. He just has another way other than you and I to express himself...
Have a Happy New Year to all.......
@mammasfool
Are you related to any of the victims.....??? Why are you so fuking angry...???
My point is....people die everyday and all the gloom and doom along with the death and destruction are being display on the vine everyday. Are you going to flip the fuk out every time there's a death in the news ???
Happy New Year CD and to all
Mymomdidnotraiseafool, you've shown how hateful an a**hole you are. True colors...
Adam Lanza's actions led us to believe he had a terrible judgment with God. We should believe, based on morality, that his soul is in eternal hellfire.
Nevertheless, our obligation is to bury the dead, regardless of our personal or public judgments on them.
BTW, do you need a sedative? The foaming hatred spewed on an online thread reveals a lot.
Mommaraisedahatefulfool, it isn't too bad for me, at all. On the contrary. I'm thrilled we all have the rights we have. And what is beyond comprehension to you is obviously plenty. My guess that you call yourself a Christian has zero to do with my ability to think critically. I commented to you after reading several of your posts because I found your ideas and suggestions (like others on his thread) to be exaggerated, improbable, dramatic and ludicrous; a farce. I wanted to state that and I have.
You are completely entitled to be filled with hatred toward whomever your shriveled heart desires. By all means go ahead, knock yourself out. Further, you will likely be dismayed to know that not only is it not too bad for me, it also isn't tough for me. In fact, I'm off to enjoy life after having exercised my right to tell you what a freak you are. You will likely sit on your ass and keep posting ridiculous and non productive comments all day. And finally, I'm not a moron and I don't bleat. (You are thinking of your lover.) The sickness you feel is hate coursing through your veins. Happy New Year everybody! PEACE!
Listen to and look at all you people who claim to be so intelligent but are willing to sit there and let the bank owned media spoon feed their version of the truth in this matter. I suppose it would be too outlandish for any of you fear-filled sheeple to wrap your heads around the fact that not a single authority has provided any evidence that indicates Adam lanza was the shooter in this case. All of you are so busy needing to be provided a scapegoat to assuage your fear that you're willing to "witch-hunt" instead of seek the real truth. Here are some links to enlighten yourselves with before you allow the Pied Piper to guide you over the edge of the cliff into the abyss of slavery.
http://www.businessinsider.com/sandy-hook-man-in-the-woods-video-2012-12
http://chemtrailsplanet.net/2012/12/19/does-lanzas-alleged-bushmaster-ar-15-assault-weapon-really-exist/
and please be sure to watch ALL the video at the above link
and finally there is this,
http://www.naturalnews.com/038502_Adam_Lanza_evil_gene_genetic_profiling.html
and in light of the fact that today the mainstream media is claiming Adam's father is claiming his body just makes their story too convenient.
The article never said that he was or was not buried just a private funeral and undisclosed location. He could have been cremated for all we know. How much difference does it really make anyway.
Lanza is dead and he can not hear or feel any ones wrath. So, the words of judgement that most seem to be using are more for themselves than the dead.
It is tragic no matter how you look at it for everyone.
The lesson, if there is one to be learned here, is take your anger and do something positive, if not for yourself then in memory of those whose lives where lost.
why not disclose the location? then all you bleeding hearts can go and put flowers on his grave and hold hands singing kumbaya. this pos monster needs to be pulverized and fed to rats then the rats need to be incinerated.
You don't know that. We don't know how severe his disorder was. We don't know the circumstances of the divorce. How that affected him. How the distance from his father affected him. None of that. We know nothing.
What he did was terrible. Was all of that under his own control given his disorder and the divorce? I doubt it.
I worked at an at-risk youth facility, and most if not all the young men I worked with were the product of divorces. And none of them were special needs like Lanza.
Uncle Henry
I got some news for ya......there's going to be plenty more news stories like this in the future, you might want to save some of that false anger for the next time because your need for the pulverizing and feed to the rats crap is boring and tiresome. Let's stop pretending to give a $hit already and.....GET A FUKING LIFE.
And what about parents who bring children into the world who need a two parent family to develop normally and then abandon the relationship not knowing the destructive nature of divorce in developing young minds.
Marriage is about commitment. I like the honor of the old guard. People in before the baby boomers stayed together not matter what more than today. It was essential and is essential to normal development. The only thing that has changed is that people no longer view marriage as a commitment.
I don't either, I also don't feel connected to the rest of the people who died either, I have no concept of what it's like to lose a child, and I hope I never do.
Hiya CD hope you and yours had a wonderful Christmas/New Years may this year be wonderful for y'all.
While I'm not one of the kumbaya people you speak of, I think it's better no one knows where he is because to turn it around it'll keep angry people like you from going and desecrating his grave (if he has one)
I know everyone wants to vilify this kid who did such a horrible thing, but I can't begin to imagine the mental pain he must have been suffering for years. The article did state that his parents divorced and the father was estranged from both the mother and that particular son; not the other son. Can you imagine what that does to a young kid; your father basically writes you off, but gives attention to your brother. I'm sure it happens all the time and the kid left behind doesn't do this type of horrific act, but some part of me actually feels sorry for the shooter, and yes every fiber in me feels so much compassion for those innocent children and teachers. The father has a lot of soul searching to do. He discards his son and now has to live with this on his conscientious.
Now some of the parents want to sue because some trash bag attorney is telling them they can get money from someone. From whom? The mothers estate, the father. The mom, in my opinion is at fault. She bought guns, introduced her mentally unstable son to them at the shooting range and did not lock them or have gun locks on them. That is negligent to me. Did the father know the mother was buying guns and keeping them in the house with a mentally unstable kid who he discarded. Did he know and not try to stop it? No one should be able to buy a gun and keep it in a home, especially without locks, if there is someone living there that has mental issues.
I would think the father was smart enough to cremate his son and spread the ashes somewhere.
I feel for the dad in this sense ...He has to live the rest of his life knowing that his son turned into a monster. I wouldn't wish that on anyone
Thank you. No matter what he did he was still his son. Like you said - I wouldn't wish that on anyone. He was a tortured soul with problems we will NEVER know about. We can speculate all we want - his mother kept them a secret. I feel for what is left of the family and the rest of the victims to the horrible crime.
His mom was trying to help him. She had tried to get him help and was about to have him committed. She knew he was sick, but I don't think she knew HOW sick he really was. No one knows what happened in that house that morning. Could be she tried to stop the kid from doing what he was about to do and that's when he killed her. Really sad. Our mental health care system is really broken.
Actually, he killed the mom in her sleep. She never knew what happened to her. If this kid was really mentally ill, his parents had to know something was wrong with him even as a small child. A lot of people are ashame when they have mentally ill children and they try to hide it and make themselves believe nothing is wrong with the child and it ends up hurting the child in the long-run and them they are left to fend for themselves in a world they cannot get along in. I guess no parent would ever think they child would do something so horrible even though he was sick. Still, Adam was someone's child and his family is grieving just as much to lose their child and also to know what he did. The whole situation is just really sad and disturbing and the need for mental health needs to addressed in this country starting with the parents getting their children the help they need. Everything starts in the home.
@Kanic
There are people who are mentally ill and it's very evident yet the parents still deny it.
Does it really surprise anyone that this kid was genius level? Go back through history and look how many genius level folks let their mind slip over the line of sanity, for many people they just say it is another eccentric genius and don't look further.
Happy New Year all. See you on the other side of the calendar.
We all can try to use human logic until the cows come home. The fact remains, this Lanza guy knew what he was doing for certain -- don't try to blame this on a "mental condition." How about a lack of God and morality and fear of damnation of his soul to stop someone from ever thinking about doing this (including suicide)?
Lanza plotted for a while to do this, as well as attempted to (quite well) cover his tracks on manipulation of his computer harddrive. A mentally cuckoo person doesn't go to such lengths...
Just like there is no such thing as a homosexual (just a person who engages in homosexual acts), there is no such thing as a genetic murderer (just a person who acts in killing another or himself). We can (again), blame this all on genetics or logic-pushed medical conditions, but it ultimately comes down to the individual person's lack of moral fiber or grace to resist temptation in doing bad things. Lanza failed, clearly.
Yes, some parents go into denial when their kids are mentally ill; others do not. "Treatment" is not as easy as you might think. Commitment is not as easy as some appear to believe either. I went down this long, ugly road some years ago with a family member. There was no denial, but it took several years just to find an in-patient facility able to handle the problem. We were fortunate that the patient was a minor not an adult, which makes it even more difficult. Our mental health system is utterly inadequate.
Listen to and look at all you people who claim to be so intelligent but are willing to sit there and let the bank owned media spoon feed their version of the truth in this matter. I suppose it would be too outlandish for any of you fear-filled sheeple to wrap your heads around the fact that not a single authority has provided any evidence that indicates Adam lanza was the shooter in this case. All of you are so busy needing to be provided a scapegoat to assuage your fear that you're willing to "witch-hunt" instead of seek the real truth. Here are some links to enlighten yourselves with before you allow the Pied Piper to guide you over the edge of the cliff into the abyss of slavery.
http://www.businessinsider.com/sandy-hook-man-in-the-woods-video-2012-12
http://chemtrailsplanet.net/2012/12/19/does-lanzas-alleged-bushmaster-ar-15-assault-weapon-really-exist/
and please be sure to watch ALL the video at the above link
and finally there is this,
http://www.naturalnews.com/038502_Adam_Lanza_evil_gene_genetic_profiling.html
and in light of the fact that today the mainstream media is claiming Adam's father is claiming his body just makes their story too convenient.
My heart goes out to his father... he lost a son, and had to also deal with the fact that his son had murdered children...not an easy thing to do. There is no way he could have predicted the insanity of that day! ...no one could!!
The people who actually did the shooting could have predicted it. Adam Lanza was the scapegoat patsy in their despicable plan. Where is the public hearing we should be having on this matter?
Toss his carcass in a garbage landfill.
At least the methane created by his rotting corps can fuel an electric turbine for a moment.
What this grown man did to 20 children and 7 adult's was a terrible terrible thing to these human being's but his father still need to bury his body, this person was a monster in every sense of the word, but his father, and brother didn' do this cruel thing ; his father and brother was victim's too. let them bury this man body in peace, because believe me his soul has not and will not be in peace for what he did.. he will suffer forever. because once we leave this body our soul and spirit still live on forever.
You people are letting your emotions rule over your intellect. What PROOF has been provided to you that Adam Lanza actually shot anyone? Evidence exists that there were three other "accomplices" taken into custody that day at the school. It is possible that the famed "Bushmaster" was never used by Adam in the commition of of this alleged mass murder. It was found in the trunk of his mother's car. Where on Adam's body was he shot. Where, what location, was he killed?
H. Wayne Carver is at best an ODD man to be believing. Demand PROOFs, not just alleged evidence.. Never just accept the government's UNPROVEN story.
His father and brother did not commit this crime and they too need closure just like the other families. We don't have the right to judge them. As far as Adam goes he has been judged and is facing his punishment. I think the cruel comments are horrible, this family already has enough to deal with and live with.
Standfirm61,He is not being judged.It is those in power who have decimated our mental healthcare system in the U.S. that need to stop giving speeches and take action to prevent something like this from ever occurring again.
Paul977,could you please enlighten me as to what speculations you have, what resources you are getting this information from. This conspiracy theory you are talking about ? I have not heard of til now.
Listen to and look at all you people who claim to be so intelligent but are willing to sit there and let the bank owned media spoon feed their version of the truth in this matter. I suppose it would be too outlandish for any of you fear-filled sheeple to wrap your heads around the fact that not a single authority has provided any evidence that indicates Adam lanza was the shooter in this case. All of you are so busy needing to be provided a scapegoat to assuage your fear that you're willing to "witch-hunt" instead of seek the real truth. Here are some links to enlighten yourselves with before you allow the Pied Piper to guide you over the edge of the cliff into the abyss of slavery.
http://www.businessinsider.com/sandy-hook-man-in-the-woods-video-2012-12
http://chemtrailsplanet.net/2012/12/19/does-lanzas-alleged-bushmaster-ar-15-assault-weapon-really-exist/
and please be sure to watch ALL the video at the above link
and finally there is this,
http://www.naturalnews.com/038502_Adam_Lanza_evil_gene_genetic_profiling.html
and in light of the fact that today the mainstream media is claiming Adam's father is claiming his body just makes their story too convenient.
hopefully lanzas body was claimed by satan and will burn in agony for eternity !!!!!
Yes, because your god is firmly against things like forgiveness or mercy.
Christians can be the worst hypocrites.
God may have forgiveness and mercy......but not the A$$HOLES who claimed to be his follower
Listen to and look at all you people who claim to be so intelligent but are willing to sit there and let the bank owned media spoon feed their version of the truth in this matter. I suppose it would be too outlandish for any of you fear-filled sheeple to wrap your heads around the fact that not a single authority has provided any evidence that indicates Adam lanza was the shooter in this case. All of you are so busy needing to be provided a scapegoat to assuage your fear that you're willing to "witch-hunt" instead of seek the real truth. Here are some links to enlighten yourselves with before you allow the Pied Piper to guide you over the edge of the cliff into the abyss of slavery.
http://www.businessinsider.com/sandy-hook-man-in-the-woods-video-2012-12
http://chemtrailsplanet.net/2012/12/19/does-lanzas-alleged-bushmaster-ar-15-assault-weapon-really-exist/
and please be sure to watch ALL the video at the above link
and finally there is this,
http://www.naturalnews.com/038502_Adam_Lanza_evil_gene_genetic_profiling.html
and in light of the fact that today the mainstream media is claiming Adam's father is claiming his body just makes their story too convenient.
And should care WHY?
The news story does not say when his body became available, though, as it might have just finished the autopsy, which I hope included a full brain and body scan, and collections of tissue, including muscle and nerve tissue. Adam was reported as not able to feel physical pain--how much of that would have contributed to his problems?
The article insinuates that his own mother's relatives wouldn't even claim him. Yes, he killed her, but they also knew that he was sick, and that he was their own flesh and blood, and that she had taken full custody and responsibility for him.
We don't know what happened between Adam and his father. We never will.
Listen to and look at all you people who claim to be so intelligent but are willing to sit there and let the bank owned media spoon feed their version of the truth in this matter. I suppose it would be too outlandish for any of you fear-filled sheeple to wrap your heads around the fact that not a single authority has provided any evidence that indicates Adam lanza was the shooter in this case. All of you are so busy needing to be provided a scapegoat to assuage your fear that you're willing to "witch-hunt" instead of seek the real truth. Here are some links to enlighten yourselves with before you allow the Pied Piper to guide you over the edge of the cliff into the abyss of slavery.
http://www.businessinsider.com/sandy-hook-man-in-the-woods-video-2012-12
http://chemtrailsplanet.net/2012/12/19/does-lanzas-alleged-bushmaster-ar-15-assault-weapon-really-exist/
and please be sure to watch ALL the video at the above link
and finally there is this,
http://www.naturalnews.com/038502_Adam_Lanza_evil_gene_genetic_profiling.html
and in light of the fact that today the mainstream media is claiming Adam's father is claiming his body just makes their story too convenient.
He was not a monster. He was mentally ill. What he did was monsterous with terrible consequences tied to his
behaviors. Too bad he did not just kill himself.
If killing 20 six-year-olds doesn't make you a monster, what does? I understand that he was mentally ill, but come on.
He was, by any definition, a monster. Mentally ill? Probably. But a monster of the most horrifying and disgusting kind, mentally ill or not.
Do any of you know someone with a mental illness? I think not or else you would not have commented as you have. I think if you look hard you may just have a friend or a son/daughter of a friend with a mental illness. You are scaring them as we type. Help someone today. Be kind to someone else.
Hey Texas, in the past I suffered from severe depression, so, YES, I am well aware of what mental illness is. However, I never killed children, adults, or my own mother by shooting them in the head. He was a coward and a monster.
Exactly!
How cool for you, Invisible, that you are all healthy now! So you had depression and I suppose your family split up and your mom hid your depression and whatever else might have been going on, and made sure you knew how to really use all the guns she kept around the house where you could get to them if you got in really bad shape and developed other mental issues on top of what you already had. Since you were depressed you are an expert on all the culpability, mental awareness, and related issues of all other illness and disorders, right? So you didn't kill anyone? Cool. Most mentally ill people don't. BUT, those who don't get the help they need for whatever reason, do have issues that can lead to violent behavior, and do have access to arsenals of guns and loads of ammunition sometimes do.
I have no idea what his real state of mind was that day, but neither do you unless you are Adam. My point is that this isn't about your illness..it is about his and what was and wasn't done to prevent this. It isn't one factor, but many, and it will happen again until the factors are addressed.
IM SOO SUREEEE your little bout of seasonal depressional is at all comparable to whatever he had going on. The kid could literally not feel emotion correctly. Are you kidding me with this depression crap? You're a an absolute POS
Listen to and look at all you people who claim to be so intelligent but are willing to sit there and let the bank owned media spoon feed their version of the truth in this matter. I suppose it would be too outlandish for any of you fear-filled sheeple to wrap your heads around the fact that not a single authority has provided any evidence that indicates Adam lanza was the shooter in this case. All of you are so busy needing to be provided a scapegoat to assuage your fear that you're willing to "witch-hunt" instead of seek the real truth. Here are some links to enlighten yourselves with before you allow the Pied Piper to guide you over the edge of the cliff into the abyss of slavery.
http://www.businessinsider.com/sandy-hook-man-in-the-woods-video-2012-12
http://chemtrailsplanet.net/2012/12/19/does-lanzas-alleged-bushmaster-ar-15-assault-weapon-really-exist/
and please be sure to watch ALL the video at the above link
and finally there is this,
http://www.naturalnews.com/038502_Adam_Lanza_evil_gene_genetic_profiling.html
and in light of the fact that today the mainstream media is claiming Adam's father is claiming his body just makes their story too convenient.
I feel very sorry for his father and brother who will have this to live with for the rest of their lives. Hopefully, they will be able to go . This story just gets sadder and sadder.
Why the hell is this being reported? smh...
For sensationalism and it sells copy.
Because the sick media types worship at the alter of Satan, glorifing these demons promoting the sick and twisted. Placing fear into the minds of the healthy. The she devil mother and hell born son sit at Satan's feast of pain now.
Because MSNBC is campaigning against guns, they will milk this till their fingers fall off.
Matt...wow. Little bit of a scary post you wrote there. Do you always see demons and devils and hell born sons at feasts of pain?
it is being reported to attempt to debunk the report at the last link I am providing for you here.
Listen to and look at all you people who claim to be so intelligent but are willing to sit there and let the bank owned media spoon feed their version of the truth in this matter. I suppose it would be too outlandish for any of you fear-filled sheeple to wrap your heads around the fact that not a single authority has provided any evidence that indicates Adam lanza was the shooter in this case. All of you are so busy needing to be provided a scapegoat to assuage your fear that you're willing to "witch-hunt" instead of seek the real truth. Here are some links to enlighten yourselves with before you allow the Pied Piper to guide you over the edge of the cliff into the abyss of slavery.
http://www.businessinsider.com/sandy-hook-man-in-the-woods-video-2012-12
http://chemtrailsplanet.net/2012/12/19/does-lanzas-alleged-bushmaster-ar-15-assault-weapon-really-exist/
and please be sure to watch ALL the video at the above link
and finally there is this,
http://www.naturalnews.com/038502_Adam_Lanza_evil_gene_genetic_profiling.html
and in light of the fact that today the mainstream media is claiming Adam's father is claiming his body just makes their story too convenient.
Seriously Matt.....you don't really see demons and devils, right?
Where's your location, Matt.
Dang Matt forgot your meds today?
Sad anyway you look at it but as a society, are we beyond the evil that this child committed or are we on his level? I am not saying that his act of evil is forgotten but his father didn't commit it nor did his mother, they still love this child. Kind of hard to stop loving a child, even when they perform evil acts. Burial should be completed and we should move forward. None of that requies acceptance of the act or minimizes the horror behind the action. But it does say soemthing about us, especially in the way we respond Mass murderers who are executed in prison, are granted burial, why not this misguided soul?
Horseman12,He was not misguided.He was suffering from an untreated mental illness.the scary thing is that there are many more in our society that are going with treatment for mental health issues.
Listen to and look at all you people who claim to be so intelligent but are willing to sit there and let the bank owned media spoon feed their version of the truth in this matter. I suppose it would be too outlandish for any of you fear-filled sheeple to wrap your heads around the fact that not a single authority has provided any evidence that indicates Adam lanza was the shooter in this case. All of you are so busy needing to be provided a scapegoat to assuage your fear that you're willing to "witch-hunt" instead of seek the real truth. Here are some links to enlighten yourselves with before you allow the Pied Piper to guide you over the edge of the cliff into the abyss of slavery.
http://www.businessinsider.com/sandy-hook-man-in-the-woods-video-2012-12
http://chemtrailsplanet.net/2012/12/19/does-lanzas-alleged-bushmaster-ar-15-assault-weapon-really-exist/
and please be sure to watch ALL the video at the above link
and finally there is this,
http://www.naturalnews.com/038502_Adam_Lanza_evil_gene_genetic_profiling.html
and in light of the fact that today the mainstream media is claiming Adam's father is claiming his body just makes their story too convenient.
Why is this even news, let's let every one heal let him bury his son body; he need to try and move on also, no matter what they try and do this kid was just plain evil,we won't forget what this man did to 26 people but we still need to try and heal for our nation sake, and find away to keep it from happening again if we can.
Not a single authority has said that Adam Lanza was the shooter so your judgment of him as "just plain evil" is just that, your misguided judgment.
Listen to and look at all you people who claim to be so intelligent but are willing to sit there and let the bank owned media spoon feed their version of the truth in this matter. I suppose it would be too outlandish for any of you fear-filled sheeple to wrap your heads around the fact that not a single authority has provided any evidence that indicates Adam lanza was the shooter in this case. All of you are so busy needing to be provided a scapegoat to assuage your fear that you're willing to "witch-hunt" instead of seek the real truth. Here are some links to enlighten yourselves with before you allow the Pied Piper to guide you over the edge of the cliff into the abyss of slavery.
http://www.businessinsider.com/sandy-hook-man-in-the-woods-video-2012-12
http://chemtrailsplanet.net/2012/12/19/does-lanzas-alleged-bushmaster-ar-15-assault-weapon-really-exist/
and please be sure to watch ALL the video at the above link
and finally there is this,
http://www.naturalnews.com/038502_Adam_Lanza_evil_gene_genetic_profiling.html
and in light of the fact that today the mainstream media is claiming Adam's father is claiming his body just makes their story too convenient.
Yes, mentally ill. We need to come to terms with how to protect us and them.
In this case, I'd be more concerned about how to protect us, since some of the mentally ill are very much capable of protecting themselves, as Adam Lanza proved.
One of the most important things we could do, "mymom..." is require a psychological profile of everyone wanting to purchase a gun. His paranoid mother would not have had the guns for him to access.
If they did a "psychological profile" of every potential gun purchaser, I can guarantee you that nobody would ever be allowed to buy a gun. Why? Because if they cleared the purchaser, and they later went on a drunken or drug-fueled killing spree, the people who cleared them to purchase could be held liable, so they would deny everyone, in direct violation of the Second Amendment. How long do you think it would be before the black market for guns became multiple orders of magnitude above what it is now?
Guess you don't know a lot of mentally ill people and how their lives are, Mymom...interesting choice of name to use. Yes, mentally ill people do need protection. Noticed how many homeless people are abused, murdered, tortured, and bullied? Many are mentally ill. Notice how many kids are bullied for being odd or "different"? Some are mentally ill...and then the mentally ill in nursing or assisted living homes are often abused, some in their own homes are abused, too. Yes actually they need at least as much protection from the general public as the general public does from them.
Some common sense would help, though. Having all those guns in that home made no sense.
Ram, I like your comment up until that last sentence. It doesn't matter if it makes sense to YOU. It is our right. She was irresponsible in that she didn't keep them secure from him. That's the only thing that doesn't make sense.
Mike, I fully support any law abiding American the right to bear arms, this womens not doing a better job of securing these type of weapons is of little comfort to the victims. I have lived in the open spaces of the rockies where owning a gun is taken as a responsiblity and view like a birth right and have lived in big cities where you must live in fear or any knuclkhead caring a firearm.
What I am trying to say is there really are two sided to this and intellegent solutions need to be found. 10,000 americans are killed by guns every year, a national discussion needs to happen
Listen to and look at all you people who claim to be so intelligent but are willing to sit there and let the bank owned media spoon feed their version of the truth in this matter. I suppose it would be too outlandish for any of you fear-filled sheeple to wrap your heads around the fact that not a single authority has provided any evidence that indicates Adam lanza was the shooter in this case. All of you are so busy needing to be provided a scapegoat to assuage your fear that you're willing to "witch-hunt" instead of seek the real truth. Here are some links to enlighten yourselves with before you allow the Pied Piper to guide you over the edge of the cliff into the abyss of slavery.
http://www.businessinsider.com/sandy-hook-man-in-the-woods-video-2012-12
http://chemtrailsplanet.net/2012/12/19/does-lanzas-alleged-bushmaster-ar-15-assault-weapon-really-exist/
and please be sure to watch ALL the video at the above link
and finally there is this,
http://www.naturalnews.com/038502_Adam_Lanza_evil_gene_genetic_profiling.html
and in light of the fact that today the mainstream media is claiming Adam's father is claiming his body just makes their story too convenient.
I feel badly for his family as they are also victims. Usually when a person commits an awful act, his or her family is persecuted as well, unfortunately. It isn't their fault, and they knew this kid as someone other than what everyone else in the country knows him as. I am sure they are still struggling with many questions as to why he did what he did. But it is time for them to bury someone who was part of their family now and start the greiving process. They will probably never know why he did what he did, but he is still their family. All I can say is that I feel sorry for his father and his brother and I hope they can begin to heal.
Nicely said .... and my thoughts as I read through these other cruel comments. It must be so hard to reconcile the person you knew & moments you knew with the person he became that day. Awful.
CourageLovePeaceLive,Very thoughtful and nice comments.
No one has even proven yet that Adam Lanza was the shooter and all you people are just basing your judgment on what the media is telling you.
Listen to and look at all you people who claim to be so intelligent but are willing to sit there and let the bank owned media spoon feed their version of the truth in this matter. I suppose it would be too outlandish for any of you fear-filled sheeple to wrap your heads around the fact that not a single authority has provided any evidence that indicates Adam lanza was the shooter in this case. All of you are so busy needing to be provided a scapegoat to assuage your fear that you're willing to "witch-hunt" instead of seek the real truth. Here are some links to enlighten yourselves with before you allow the Pied Piper to guide you over the edge of the cliff into the abyss of slavery.
http://www.businessinsider.com/sandy-hook-man-in-the-woods-video-2012-12
http://chemtrailsplanet.net/2012/12/19/does-lanzas-alleged-bushmaster-ar-15-assault-weapon-really-exist/
and please be sure to watch ALL the video at the above link
and finally there is this,
http://www.naturalnews.com/038502_Adam_Lanza_evil_gene_genetic_profiling.html
and in light of the fact that today the mainstream media is claiming Adam's father is claiming his body just makes their story too convenient.
If I had a dollar for every time I've been labeled a "bleeding heart", I'd be a rich woman; but, considering the devastation he left in his wake, I have no sympathy for Adam Lanza. A lot of people have mental problems, but, they don't blow their mother's head off, then blast their way into elementary school's and gun down school staff and innocent 6 and 7 year olds as they huddle in terror.
I can't imagine the pain Peter Lanza must be going through. As a result of this, his life will certainly never be the same.
Well, most don't have an arsenal of weapons right at hand and have been taught to use them, too. If they did more of this would happen. It made no sense to have those in the home at all.
again....it only made no sense that she wasn't more responsible.
Listen to and look at all you people who claim to be so intelligent but are willing to sit there and let the bank owned media spoon feed their version of the truth in this matter. I suppose it would be too outlandish for any of you fear-filled sheeple to wrap your heads around the fact that not a single authority has provided any evidence that indicates Adam lanza was the shooter in this case. All of you are so busy needing to be provided a scapegoat to assuage your fear that you're willing to "witch-hunt" instead of seek the real truth. Here are some links to enlighten yourselves with before you allow the Pied Piper to guide you over the edge of the cliff into the abyss of slavery.
http://www.businessinsider.com/sandy-hook-man-in-the-woods-video-2012-12
http://chemtrailsplanet.net/2012/12/19/does-lanzas-alleged-bushmaster-ar-15-assault-weapon-really-exist/
and please be sure to watch ALL the video at the above link
and finally there is this,
http://www.naturalnews.com/038502_Adam_Lanza_evil_gene_genetic_profiling.html
and in light of the fact that today the mainstream media is claiming Adam's father is claiming his body just makes their story too convenient.
That is a tough one. Part of me would like to have his body dragged out into the woods for the wild animals to feed on, but his family needs a proper burial.
Listen to and look at all you people who claim to be so intelligent but are willing to sit there and let the bank owned media spoon feed their version of the truth in this matter. I suppose it would be too outlandish for any of you fear-filled sheeple to wrap your heads around the fact that not a single authority has provided any evidence that indicates Adam lanza was the shooter in this case. All of you are so busy needing to be provided a scapegoat to assuage your fear that you're willing to "witch-hunt" instead of seek the real truth. Here are some links to enlighten yourselves with before you allow the Pied Piper to guide you over the edge of the cliff into the abyss of slavery.
http://www.businessinsider.com/sandy-hook-man-in-the-woods-video-2012-12
http://chemtrailsplanet.net/2012/12/19/does-lanzas-alleged-bushmaster-ar-15-assault-weapon-really-exist/
and please be sure to watch ALL the video at the above link
and finally there is this,
http://www.naturalnews.com/038502_Adam_Lanza_evil_gene_genetic_profiling.html
and in light of the fact that today the mainstream media is claiming Adam's father is claiming his body just makes their story too convenient.
slow news day???
You are free to read elsewhere and not to comment, right? You made the choice.
I wouldn't claim him. I'd let the state do what they want to do with him. Even if my son, he is no one I know.
So you would throw your son in the trash? I wouldn't want to be any part of your family. Shame on you. He was a mental ill CHILD. For reasons we will never know he did what he did. I feel for his family.
Really? Do you have kids? I am not in his family's shoes, but I love my daughter more than anything in the world. I would love her no matter what she could do. I could not see myself abandoning my child for anything, even for something as awful as this. Family is family no matter what, especially your children.
@Texas - he was 20 years old! He was not a child. He may have had some sort of mental illness, and his mother probably wasn't helping the situation at all. But that's still no excuse for what he did!
To his father, he was a child. When my daughter is 40 years old, she will still be my little girl. Hate Adam Lanza all you want for what he did, but keep it to yourself rather than disrespect his family that had nothing to do with what happened.
I also think some of you need a lesson in mental illness. I am not excusing what he did...there is no excuse. But all mental illness is not equal. There are mental illnesses that put people out of their senses and cause them to act in a way they never would. Someone earlier said that they understood mental illness because they dealt with severe depression and it never caused them to kill everyone. Mental illness has many facets and manifests itself in many different ways. Depression does not encapsulate all mental illness. It is no excuse, but to say he couldn't have possibly done this because of mental illness is a little naive.
Jaime 1234,No point in trying to reason with people who would rather spend their time condemning others than reading up on mental illnesses and writing to their elected officials to restore mental health facilities in this country.These unkind people will rue the day when somebody in their family is diagnosed with a mental illness.
Well said, Jaime!
@Nick
you need to be neuter so you can't breed or corrupt the innocent....
Listen to and look at all you people who claim to be so intelligent but are willing to sit there and let the bank owned media spoon feed their version of the truth in this matter. I suppose it would be too outlandish for any of you fear-filled sheeple to wrap your heads around the fact that not a single authority has provided any evidence that indicates Adam lanza was the shooter in this case. All of you are so busy needing to be provided a scapegoat to assuage your fear that you're willing to "witch-hunt" instead of seek the real truth. Here are some links to enlighten yourselves with before you allow the Pied Piper to guide you over the edge of the cliff into the abyss of slavery.
http://www.businessinsider.com/sandy-hook-man-in-the-woods-video-2012-12
http://chemtrailsplanet.net/2012/12/19/does-lanzas-alleged-bushmaster-ar-15-assault-weapon-really-exist/
and please be sure to watch ALL the video at the above link
and finally there is this,
http://www.naturalnews.com/038502_Adam_Lanza_evil_gene_genetic_profiling.html
and in light of the fact that today the mainstream media is claiming Adam's father is claiming his body just makes their story too convenient.
Look what he did was bad but come on he too was some ones kid and if the right help got to him or his mom locked up the guns this would not have happen.
This kid was bullied in school, picked on and no help and dad seemed to abandon him. I understand what the kid was going through just without the mental issues he had. The kid felt no one loved him have any of you felt like this? Seems not or you may understand.
I have been begging for help for 4 years and seem to get no where with help even called the Gov up just to get hung up on. This is the issue with a lot of murder suicides no one can figure out why but to find out they was looking for help and no one is there.
I feel for him just as I do for the others.
Look deep if nothing like this has happen to you then you can't understand but after getting rejected, picked on lied about there is only so much a person can take seeing this kid was mental was why he went after those he felt that hurt him.
How would you like to find out your mom was trying to get you locked up and she was the only one he thought he could count on and loved him then he found this out. The first thoughts he had was she wants to go to work with normal kids.
Please just look at this different don't keep bulling this kid....
So because he was hurt, angry or whatever he was feeling because he found out his mom wanted to send him away, that makes it okay for him to walk into a school and murder 20 kids and 7 teachers? Come on man!
We've all been bullied or mistreated at some point in our lives, I never wanted to go out and waste schoolchildren because I was pissed at my mom or because I got called a lard a$$ by a bully.
Poor rationalization on your part. I have no feeling for this loser or for his family. I hope his brother and father suffer for the remaining years of their lives.
Boy Tony you can't read can you.
I said it was a bad thing. The kid had mental issues you and I don't that is way we can deal with it.
Like I said try to put yourself in his shoes.
You are one of the reasons people do this kind of stuff, moron.
And if you was bullied you should understand what it can do but lets be honest I think you was the bully by just reading what you put.
Next did you or do you have a girl in your life well he didn't maybe this kid wanted to be normal how do you know what a mental kid thinks? You think he liked to get picked on?
You are a bully toonyj77 and I hope you get yours someday...
Understanding doesn't require approval. No, nothing makes any of this "okay." However, most of you folks have no clue what you're doing, and what you're revealing, in your comments.
You're just as scary as he is. You have no empathy, and a lack of empathy makes hurting others easier.
That's the point you're not getting tonyj77. He didn't KNOW what he was doing! He was mental! He didn't know it wasn't o.k. to kill these people. Well, he may have known it wasn't o.k. but in his mind he didn't care......because we was SICK. He didn't care what he did because of the state his mind was in.
Kynetick
I think that I was giving empathy.
And you are correct Understanding doesn't require approval but I was not looking for approval I was looking for empathy for Adam as well for the others.
Troy from Ohmaha, this kid knew what he was doing when he picked up those guns, killed his mom and went to that the school. He knew what he was doing and to say he didn't is absurd.
Tony he did not know because he had others in his head to tell him different things what part of mental don't you understand? Because the way you are acting you should understand the most you sound just like Adam to me and that is scary. Where do you live so I can make sure me and my kids are not in the same state as you. I do have a feeling I will read about you within a year..
He did not know what he was doing and to say he did is absurd.
And this comment right here makes you NO better than those you look down upon. Why should his brother and father suffer? They didn't even live with him...they were estranged. Show some compassion and some common sense. I am sure the brother and father will live with this tragedy for the rest of their days knowing their son, their brother did such a thing. They don't need you're help. All you are doing with that comment is showing what a horrible, hateful person you are yourself.
*your help...before the grammar freaks come and get me.
Listen to and look at all you people who claim to be so intelligent but are willing to sit there and let the bank owned media spoon feed their version of the truth in this matter. I suppose it would be too outlandish for any of you fear-filled sheeple to wrap your heads around the fact that not a single authority has provided any evidence that indicates Adam lanza was the shooter in this case. All of you are so busy needing to be provided a scapegoat to assuage your fear that you're willing to "witch-hunt" instead of seek the real truth. Here are some links to enlighten yourselves with before you allow the Pied Piper to guide you over the edge of the cliff into the abyss of slavery.
http://www.businessinsider.com/sandy-hook-man-in-the-woods-video-2012-12
http://chemtrailsplanet.net/2012/12/19/does-lanzas-alleged-bushmaster-ar-15-assault-weapon-really-exist/
and please be sure to watch ALL the video at the above link
and finally there is this,
http://www.naturalnews.com/038502_Adam_Lanza_evil_gene_genetic_profiling.html
and in light of the fact that today the mainstream media is claiming Adam's father is claiming his body just makes their story too convenient.
Funerals, burials, memorials, are for the living, not the dead. Those disparaging whatever becomes of Adam Lanza's remains don't have a fraction of the class displayed by Neil Heslin, father of victim Jesse Lewis, when he extended his sympathy and condolences to the Lanza family.
You know what Rick, Neil Heslin is a hell of a man and its a shame that we all can't be more like him. But if Adam Lanza had gunned down my three-year old daughter. I wouldn't be so forgiving.
You are right. I had not thought of that until you brought it up. I do remember that father paying tribute to his daughter, but also extending sympathy to the family of his daughter's killer. I hope both fathers find some peace in the coming years, but I can hardly see how they will do it. This is when we have to call on our faith and put one foot forward because there is no other way to get through something like this, but it is not easy.
For those of you spewing so much hatred, I do get where you are coming from, but that is the same atmosphere this twenty year old kid put out the day he killed 27 people (I am including his mother) and I don't think that feeling is going to help us work for ways to insure this does not happen again.
You're right Elizabeth, hatred won't bring back the lives he took. But at the same time I don't have to feel bad for his family and their loss. Maybe if they raised him better he wouldn't have done this despicable act. There are too many what-if's in this scenario, the only thing that is a certainty for me is that the Lanza family would not get my forgiveness or condolences if their son had murdered my child in cold blood.
Tonyj77
The Internet Bully of all time..
Can't stop even after the kid is dead. Do you fill all big now bully...
I feel sorry for your daughter if you even have one.. A dad like you is a dad like Adams when she needs you you will run...
Maybe it had nothing to do with their parenting skills. They have another son, you know. He doesn't seem to be killing anyone. Maybe the idea of empathy is just too much for you? No, you don't have to feel bad for his surviving family. But it would make you a better person if you did.
Ha ha ha ha ha!! All you people bashing me are quite comical. First off, Adam Lanza deserves no respect in death, maybe in life if he had better parents or friends he would have been a decent person. We will never know the kind of person he could have been. But, seeing as we have this lasting portrayal of him as a cold blooded psycho who murders kids, how can you justify him deserving any kind of respect in death?
Lasertroll, why don't you read my posts and see what I said, rather than picking and choosing what you want. I said we've all been bullied at one point in our lives, but none of us had the desire to go and shoot innocent kids because of it. My God man, learn to read and stop trolling.
I did read your post moron...
The one thing you keep forgetting the kid was mental he was not normal like me and I thought you but after reading your comments I think you have mental issues also.
And if I ran this site I would have the cops at your house and lock you up for 48 hours for mental testing.
You scare me more than Adam...
Lol, calling me names makes you so much smarter than me. He was normal, he just used his mommy issues as a cop out to murder her and those kids.
Using his mommy issues to cop out wow tony you really need to seek help and I hope some one monitoring this site gives this to the FBI to find you and give you the help you need.
Name calling look at your post that's all you did with your foul mouth...
Yeah, he had mommy issues. She was a nut job survivalist who trained her boy how to shoot and provided him with guns. It has been documented he and his mother shared a bed together. So clearly, this fool had mommy issues.
Uh-huh. What ever happened to the alleged shooter caught in the woods (the video of them chasing him is all over the web). What about the person arrested in front of the school and taken into custody? This whole story stinks.
jjjj
Look it up they told use who they were and why the guy was in the woods it all checked out.
Well as much as you want to believe anyway.
Rick881466,I agree and your comments should not have been ignored.It just goes to show that many posters lack compassion,respect,human decency and class.
You just claimed to have looked it up. Why didn't you tell us what "THEY" allegedly explained about the three people taken into custody after running from the police?
Yes, but the key point is that Adam himself gunned down these children....not his father and brother. Neil Hesslin extended these sympathies to the Lanza family, which would mean his father and brother and any other affected family member. Adam is not longer hear to receive these sympathies. Hate Adam all you want, but don't blame his estranged family. They are likely to be grieving heavily...not only for the loss of their son/brother but over the fact that he did such a horrible thing to so many people.
BTW you can forgive someone for something without agreeing with what they did. Forgiving them helps you move on rather than leaving you hate filled and spiteful for the rest of your days. I am sure these families would much rather have closure and be able to move on and remember their children for who they were...not how they died.
What I think is some need to go learn how to read.
Paul-977599 where in my post did I claim I looked it up?
I was following the news and it was said on TV on about 5 stations....
That's why I TOLD YOU to look it up because you will not see it on the news again..
Listen to and look at all you people who claim to be so intelligent but are willing to sit there and let the bank owned media spoon feed their version of the truth in this matter. I suppose it would be too outlandish for any of you fear-filled sheeple to wrap your heads around the fact that not a single authority has provided any evidence that indicates Adam lanza was the shooter in this case. All of you are so busy needing to be provided a scapegoat to assuage your fear that you're willing to "witch-hunt" instead of seek the real truth. Here are some links to enlighten yourselves with before you allow the Pied Piper to guide you over the edge of the cliff into the abyss of slavery.
http://www.businessinsider.com/sandy-hook-man-in-the-woods-video-2012-12
http://chemtrailsplanet.net/2012/12/19/does-lanzas-alleged-bushmaster-ar-15-assault-weapon-really-exist/
and please be sure to watch ALL the video at the above link
and finally there is this,
http://www.naturalnews.com/038502_Adam_Lanza_evil_gene_genetic_profiling.html
and in light of the fact that today the mainstream media is claiming Adam's father is claiming his body just makes their story too convenient.
Lasertroll, you have any links to those stories you say the mainstream media came out with and said the others apprehended at the school after the shooting all checked out as legit because I am not finding anything anywhere. If anything I am finding more stories in conflict with your claim.
Adam Lanza was dead at the scene. His body was found, apprehended, with the weapons on him. What more evidence do you need that he is the killer? It's amazing how some of you attempt to twist the facts every which way when the truth is always more simple. Look, the fact is the child was mentally handicapped and for the mother to have a gun around the house, let alone teach her emotionally challenged child how to use a rifle is baffling to me. It is ignorant on the mother's part to not realize that her child had special needs and you do not treat a household as such to where one would keep arms around the length of a child with special needs sight. What was she thinking??
We need the alleged "evidence" to be converted into a legal PROOF. Do you not understand what process is involved in that conversion of the Public relations story, an allegation, into an actual FACT?
If I was Mr. Lanza, I would go for cremation for his son. A grave or memorial would obviously attract vandals.
The body should be donated to science,there shouldn't be any memorial that can either motivate copycats or attract desecration/vandalism. The final disposal should not be made public.
Not sure David but I think they did keep the brain for study. I cannot say for sure but I think I heard it on the news.
there's what is being done with his genetic material lazer, the story at the last link I have provided here for those able, willing and unafraid to seek the real truth.
Listen to and look at all you people who claim to be so intelligent but are willing to sit there and let the bank owned media spoon feed their version of the truth in this matter. I suppose it would be too outlandish for any of you fear-filled sheeple to wrap your heads around the fact that not a single authority has provided any evidence that indicates Adam lanza was the shooter in this case. All of you are so busy needing to be provided a scapegoat to assuage your fear that you're willing to "witch-hunt" instead of seek the real truth. Here are some links to enlighten yourselves with before you allow the Pied Piper to guide you over the edge of the cliff into the abyss of slavery.
http://www.businessinsider.com/sandy-hook-man-in-the-woods-video-2012-12
http://chemtrailsplanet.net/2012/12/19/does-lanzas-alleged-bushmaster-ar-15-assault-weapon-really-exist/
and please be sure to watch ALL the video at the above link
and finally there is this,
http://www.naturalnews.com/038502_Adam_Lanza_evil_gene_genetic_profiling.html
and in light of the fact that today the mainstream media is claiming Adam's father is claiming his body just makes their story too convenient.
Nothing done or not done for Adam Lanza's remains will make a hill of beans difference to Adam Lanza. Funerals are for the living. This boy's father has much more to grieve than just the loss of a son. Give the man's grief and loss the respect he's due.
Adam Lanza's father doesn't deserve respect or any kind of grief. His son murdered 20 innocent children and for that there can be no forgiveness.
Tony,
The man deserves respect. Throughout the divorce, and after it, the man tried to stay in contact with Adam and Adam wouldn't have any of it. He cut off all communication with his father regardless of how much the father tried. Did you fail to read that in the articles? The man lost his son the moment Adam choose to not talk or see him, but he probably kept hoping that one day Adam would talk to him again. Now he has to grieve that not only will he never have the chance to talk to Adam as to why Adam refused to talk, but he now has to bury his own child. And to make any assumption as to how the parents raised their kids, that is not being discussed in any of the articles. The mother was quiet about a lot of the issues Adam was having while his brother Ryan was doing fairly well. The father and brother, Ryan, are both victims in this whether you want to agree or not. It doesn't excuse Adam's actions of killing children and the educators, but to hold the father accountable for Adam's actions is plain stupid. You, nor anyone else, knows what was happening in the raising of Adam. But I am going to assume that since Adam's brother, Ryan, is in a stable job and a responsible person, the parents were raising the children as any parent would. The mother's mistake was not getting Adam the help he needed as she was in denial or refused to see how much help he needed. The father and brother deserve respect in allowing them to grieve for what happened to not only their family but to the families whose lives were changed as well.
Tony, it's obvious you have a lot of hate at stake and I wish you some healing with that. Keep in mind that you can choose to send out ripples of healing and help or negativity and hate. It's up to you.
you have no proof of that Tony aside from what you're allowing the media to spoon feed you here.
Listen to and look at all you people who claim to be so intelligent but are willing to sit there and let the bank owned media spoon feed their version of the truth in this matter. I suppose it would be too outlandish for any of you fear-filled sheeple to wrap your heads around the fact that not a single authority has provided any evidence that indicates Adam lanza was the shooter in this case. All of you are so busy needing to be provided a scapegoat to assuage your fear that you're willing to "witch-hunt" instead of seek the real truth. Here are some links to enlighten yourselves with before you allow the Pied Piper to guide you over the edge of the cliff into the abyss of slavery.
http://www.businessinsider.com/sandy-hook-man-in-the-woods-video-2012-12
http://chemtrailsplanet.net/2012/12/19/does-lanzas-alleged-bushmaster-ar-15-assault-weapon-really-exist/
and please be sure to watch ALL the video at the above link
and finally there is this,
http://www.naturalnews.com/038502_Adam_Lanza_evil_gene_genetic_profiling.html
and in light of the fact that today the mainstream media is claiming Adam's father is claiming his body just makes their story too convenient.
I think we have all now figured out that you can copy and paste, now get on with your life.
If the "father" of this POS had any deceny, he would allow the families of those 20 kids he killed to mutilate and dismembered the corpse.
OMG Tonyj77 that is disgusting...I'm certain that they wouldn't want to do any such thing in memory of their child....what the hell is wrong with you?????
Good thing you don't speak for the families. I doubt they would concurr with your stupid remarks. Most are grieving the loss of a loved one yet still have compassion for the survivors of the Lanza family. As is stated above, the funeral/burial of loved ones is for those left behind.
I am glad most people in the USA have more compassion than you do.
To hell with the Lanza family!!
Tony your comments tell me everything about you I need to know.
So my comments tell you I hate f'king cowards who gun down innocent children then? Glad you got my point!
Hating cowards is one thing...coming up with your solution for the families to do unspeakable things to his body is demented...it's people like you who scare me as well as the Adam Lanza's....if you are able to think that way, you can act that way!!!! Think before you speak....Damn
No, Tony, your comments indicate a bitter self absorbed individual who cannot think outside himself.
You know what? None of you know me and to pass judgement on me because I find it despicable that this alien looking POS killed innocent kids is ridiculous. Sure, my disposal methods for his body may seem extreme, even scary to some, but you know what? He doesn't deserve to buried with any dignity for what he did, throw him in a hole with some lime and let the hole be used as a latrine.
Call me bitter and self absorbed all you want Horseman12, but there are some things that fire me up. Killing innocent children is one of those things and because you don't see eye to eye with my beliefs doesn't mean you are any better than me.
I may just to a darker place than you to deal with cowards like Lanza and his family.
Tonyj77
There are a lot of people that can help you please go seek a doctor before we have a post about you going postal.
This scares me to even think you are raising a child....
He was not a coward he had mental issues there is a big differences but you seemed to be one sided sad very sad for your daughter god I hope you don't have kids...
You know what lasertroll, do yourself a favor and step off your pulpit and stop acting all holier than thou. Spare me the routine.
He was a coward and was mental, tell me how he wasn't when he went into a classroom, looked 20 innocent kids in the eye and shot them down like animals? If you can tell me how that doesn't classify him as a coward and as having severe mental issues than I'd look in the mirror if I were you and reassess myself as a human being.
Dude .. you need help. Please seek counseling as soon as possible. You might be the next one we're discussing here.
Ok, Last Rebel, or should I call you lasertroll 2.0?
Tony, nowhere in my post did I say I was better than you, just that you are bitter, self absorbed and can't think outside of yourself. This is an issue that can lead to an Adam Lanza experience. Compassion for others, regardless of their state, is one human emotion that we need. That does not justify others poor behavior or choices, it just let's us see humanity. I do not condone this individuals choice, but I do support those left behind being able to receive some semblance of closure, whether it be the families of the children and school personnel or Adam Lanza's family that was left behind. YOur hatred does nothing for most to find a means of moving forward to better help this crazy world.
Being self absorbed is something we all face now and then in our lives, we just need to find better ways of overcoming it so that peace can be restored. That peace is a personal representation from within not an outword representation from the world.
Wow tonyj77 the kid was not a coward that would take an act of thinking and his mental issues stopped him from thinking.
Please I beg you go seek help you need a lot of it.
I believe even the parents of some of those children killed have more compassion and understanding for Adam than you do. You admit that he was "mental" as you call it. And you're right, no one in their right mind could commit such a horrific act. That should tell you something about his mental condition. For that reason alone, it's difficult to judge him with such a harsh reaction.
I'm not upholding his actions. Just pointing out that there had to be serious underlying issues for him to be able to do what he did.
I have to feel compassion for him to think that he felt this was his only answer. That in itself is the mystery for me.
I hope his family, and the family of the victims can somehow find peace in their hearts again.
No Tony. I'm not lasertroll.
lasertroll, again please stop. Yes, he was mental, but he wasn't as far gone as you want to portray. He knew what his plan was when he murdered his mommy and went to that school. Go sell your BS logic to someone else. Just because I don't agree with you means that I need counseling? Seriously, get a life and realize people will have differing opinions, but to portray me as mentally unstable for disagreeing with your opinion is quite ridiculous.
All I can say to Last Rebel and Horseman is that you are better men then me because you have compassion in your hearts, if someone did that to my kid (mind you, I don't have kids for all those worried I did) I couldn't find it in my heart to forgive them. Our opinions differ and that is all. I wish you both well in the New Year.
Tony
I will stop when I hear you are getting help. To think he knew what he was doing grow up read on mental issues.
Hell go to the mental ward at the hospital and talk to them then come back and tell me they know what they are doing you are a fool and a bully and I think you are going to do the same as Adam please again I beg seek help.
you need help because of your comments not your opinion. An opinion is not to do more harm like you wish do do o the father and the other son.You are just as sick as Adam please seek help.
And glad to hear you have no kids hate to see how they would turn out..
Lasertroll, it is my opinion that he was a coward and mental. You're saying you didn't know what he was doing and wasn't in his right mind, are you saying he was possessed by the devil than? Clearly, if you woke up, grabbed and gun, shot down your mother and then proceeded to go to a school and look twenty innocent kids in their eyes and pull the trigger; you had a plan and knew what you were doing.
He is a coward for killing the kids and mental because he couldn't deal with his mommy issues, so he decides to off her and go take it out on innocent children. THE MOTHER F.U.C.K.E.R. IS AND WILL ALWAYS BE A COWARD!!!!!!!!!!
By the way, here is the DSM-IV manual's definition of mental disorder.
"A clinically significant behavioral or psychological syndrome or pattern that occurs in an individual and that is associated with present distress (i.e., a painful symptom) or disability (i.e., an impairment in one or more important areas of functioning) or with a significantly increased risk of suffering death, pain, disability, or an important loss of freedom. The syndrome or pattern must not be merely an expectable and culturally sanctioned response to a particular event. It must currently be considered a manifestation of a behavioral, psychological, or biological dysfunction in the individual."
One last thing lasertroll, I'm currently in treatment, I need help to get over my impure thoughts of your mother.
See, so I'm getting help, now you can stop as you said you would.
Wow tony new low for you, bring my mother into this...
And if you are seeking help well maybe you need to be locked up because it is not helping you.
Again he was no coward just a mental kid that needed love not a bully like you...
And the more you sound off the more I fear for those around you.
I think we have all seen enough of your posts to know you just fine. The father is not to blame for what his estranged son did to these kids. The fact that you are blaming his father who had not only not spoken to his kid for a long while but also lived far away, says a lot about you. I have not seen even one person say what this kid did was okay, but you seem to be the ONLY person crucifying and demeaning his father for what his son did...a father who was in no way involved with the incident except that his son committed the crime. You also seem to think that people that feel sympathy for the family left behind are condoning what this kid did...not true. Blame the kid...he was 20 years old, but don't blame his father. That just smacks of unjustifiable hatred and irrationality on your part. I have a daughter close to the age of the children that died. I don't know how I would react if this happened to her...it would likely be the end of me. BUT I wouldn't place blame on the father that's for sure. Blame the real culprit all you want, but his family, at least not his surviving family, is not guilty by association in this case.
I seriously hope you really do not have a three year old child. If you do, my highest sympathies go out to her, and I hope that nothing about your personality, or lack thereof, is passed down to her. That would be a real tragedy in and of itself.
Tony, I understand you have a lot of hate and anger about this and I see why..it is horrible what happened to those innocent people...it's horrible that this happens to anyone. Hate if you must. Just keep hating. Look around you and see what hate has been doing to this world, and if you like that keep on hating. I get why you are angry and I am as well. I just don't have the need for vengeance. I want things to change in ways that will prevent this instead. But you definitely have the right to hate, and if you are just venting and processing that is one thing...just puts more hate out into the world, but it is your choice...but get help if you feel the need to act on it, please.
Tony this is like me blaming your family for you being such a raging prick. I don't blame your family, i feel sorry for them for having to live around such amoral filth. Hate the criminal and the crime all you want, FINE. But to damn his whole family? Especially his father who's been out of his life for YEARS?!?! You deserve the burial of sick pig. Nevermind...that's too insulting......to the pig.
let go of your fear Tony before it manifests into your life in the form of evil and hatred you seem capable of imagining.
Listen to and look at all you people who claim to be so intelligent but are willing to sit there and let the bank owned media spoon feed their version of the truth in this matter. I suppose it would be too outlandish for any of you fear-filled sheeple to wrap your heads around the fact that not a single authority has provided any evidence that indicates Adam lanza was the shooter in this case. All of you are so busy needing to be provided a scapegoat to assuage your fear that you're willing to "witch-hunt" instead of seek the real truth. Here are some links to enlighten yourselves with before you allow the Pied Piper to guide you over the edge of the cliff into the abyss of slavery.
http://www.businessinsider.com/sandy-hook-man-in-the-woods-video-2012-12
http://chemtrailsplanet.net/2012/12/19/does-lanzas-alleged-bushmaster-ar-15-assault-weapon-really-exist/
and please be sure to watch ALL the video at the above link
and finally there is this,
http://www.naturalnews.com/038502_Adam_Lanza_evil_gene_genetic_profiling.html
and in light of the fact that today the mainstream media is claiming Adam's father is claiming his body just makes their story too convenient.
May God Bless his troubled soul....In Jesus' Name, Amen
You're seriously delusional if you are praying for the soul of someone who gunned down innocent children and teachers.
Brandy where was you god and jesus at when he was pulling the trigger?????
Interesting that even Christ prayed for those who crucified him, while going through the pain of death on the cross. As to where was God and Jesus when this individual was pulling the trigger, waiting and welcoming those passing through the veil to heaven. Also, continuing to grant agency or freedom to choose to those of us left behind. Do we choose evil or good? Good will impact positively more than evil will impact for bad. Life is short, stop trying to control others and learn to control yourself. Best lesson we can learn from God and Jesus in this situation.
Looking at the scene unfolding and crying at the inhumanity man does to man. That wasn't his plan but now, all of the victims and the shooter are reaping the rewards of heaven or paying the price in hell.
And Amen Horseman.
Maybe if GOD was still allowed in school, these things would'nt happen.
I don't know who's god you want in school and I don't know if that would have prevented this. To me the question is will the public schools allow truth to be taught. That would be refreshing.
You do realize that bad things like this were happening when god was being taught in school, right? The only difference now is that due to technology we hear more about these things happening at an instant's notice. It has nothing to do with god being allowed in school or not. It's about mental health issues that are not being acknowledged and treated.
SOA
I agree in some aspect because in this case because the kid was mental.
But we have a lot more then before but I feel it is a lot more than letting God back in school.
Like teaching pride, honor, respect all this is no long taught in school or at home because of all the illegals not wanting to say the pledge or those that took God out of it.
We was founded on God and now we have all turned on him well most not all. Even churches are corrupted.
Laser,
I agree with most of your post, but regarding the emphasis on god, I have mixed feelings on. There are people who are moral without the teachings of god.
That statement actually goes more towards Americans, not illegals, who are pulling PR stunts, but keep in mind that "god" was put in the pledge in the 1950s. The pledge has been modified 4 times since it was formally adopted by Congress in 1942. It all comes down to people, as you have stated, teaching morals and respect which can be (and has been done) from people who do not have a belief in god. It's using common sense that people are to be treated equally and without judgement. We may have been founded under god for religious freedoms, but you have religions who are persecuting others because people can't agree to let people believe what they wish to and live without being harassed. Take god out of the equation and you can still teach morals, pride and honor.
@BigSpooky
Yeah, go ahead and invite God to school......we'll see if he'll shows up.
SOA
I will agree to that....