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Artist's rendering of a proposed 625-foot Ferris wheel, billed as the world's largest, planned as part of a retail and hotel complex along the Staten Island waterfront in New York.
The man who wants to build the world’s biggest Ferris wheel in a flood zone of Staten Island says he wasn’t scared off by the damage and death caused by superstorm Sandy.
But Richard Marin, the developer of the plan to erect the 625-foot structure, said he's been forced to confront the fears of residents of the ravaged New York City borough.
Marin said he can “thank Hollywood” for doomsday scenarios in which people envision his wheel snapping off its posts and “rolling across Staten Island” the next time a hurricane blows up the East Coast.
Even though the $500 million project – which includes mall and hotel -- would be built on land that took on four feet of water during Sandy, Marin told NBC News that he doesn’t share those worries.
For one thing, he expects to build at least one or two feet above the level that the federal government deems the flood zone, with all the vital mechanical and electrical equipment safely out of reach of a storm surge.
At meeting after meeting, he’s told residents that even if high winds somehow loosened the wheel, it wouldn’t crash down; it would be left dangling by cables much like a Midtown Manhattan crane that came loose during Sandy.
With an independent power “microgrid” that relies on alternative energy, a kitchen and a first-aid facility, the complex could even be used as a public shelter if Staten Island gets walloped by Mother Nature again.
“All of those things have helped a lot with the natural knee-jerk reaction of: ‘What happens when the next big storm comes and this thing falls on our head?’” said Marin, a former Wall Street banker.
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The wheel plan has the backing of City Hall and Staten Island’s top elected official, but some people are still uneasy about such a massive waterfront project post-Sandy.
"Before the storm, I don't think that anyone had really given much consideration to the fact that these projects are being built in a flood plain," Beryl Thurman, an environmental activist, told The Associated Press.
The tourist attraction, she said, "should be put on a back burner until the city of New York can come up with real answers."
Nancy Rooney, a nurse, said the developer’s full-speed-ahead approach struck the wrong note at the wrong time.
“It was in poor taste to be discussing a Ferris wheel and all this glamor -- it was very hard to embrace this when you knew that your colleagues and their family members were devastated, and there were people who don't have heat or electricity or homes," she told the AP after attending a public meeting.
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Marin admits he “bruised some sensibilities” but said it was for the greater good.
“We’re convinced of the viability of this project,” he said. “People say: Should you be talking about something as frivolous as an amusement? … Now, more than ever, Staten Island needs the kind of economic development this project has to offer.”
The goal is to have it up and running by the end of 2015. Long before then, though, Marin hopes to secure a corporate sponsor that will put its name on the wheel at the cost of many millions a year.
He said that company executives have not been as skittish as some Staten Islanders.
“I don’t think there have been undue concerns because of the storm,” he said.
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So the developer isn't scared. What's the story? Hope everyone has fun.
They should make the developer post a bond sufficient to pay for the dismantling and removal of the wheel. That way when this idiotic plan turns out to be a economic flop the city does not get stuck with a gigantic, rusted out eyesore on the waterfront. This plan just does not seem to be very sound economically. I can not believe that this Ferris wheel alone would generate anywhere near enough business to support this developer's grandiose plans.
It should double as a power producing water wheel and spin with the tides.
Bonds are for the developer's protection as well as the community's. The only issue with this project is the timing due to the storm. If they have the cash to do it then that means either (1) the developer has cash to infuse on their own or (2) they have tendered a pro-forma sufficient to get the needed loans.
Mr. Marin's timing is abysmal, but if he can maybe back up his "greater good" claim with some replacement housing worked into the package, it would be more palatable.
The big Ferris Wheel is a great idea if you have proper insurance when it blows down. Please don't ask for 50 billion dollars of taxpayer bailout storm money if you rebuild everything in risk prone areas........
What does one thing have to do with another? Development and job growth is exactly what the hard hit areas need to thrive once again.
Let's hope the billions of government assistance won't be used on a feris wheel.
What nerve! Building a business on the water's edge like that. I mean, who is he to use our tax dollars and...wait...what? You mean it's not coming out of our pockets? Oh. Well...what gives him the right to be insensitive and build a resort in a hard impacted storm area that...wait...so he's bringing jobs and money to the area that desperately needs it and is rebuilding tourism? Oh. Well in that case, screw the hippies who have an issue with progress. ;)
What the hell is wrong with you people? This is a government funded project here, so why the hell are you worried about getting stuck with a bill? I personally think it's a GREAT idea, another landmark in our country,IMO could never be a bad thing. Look at Londons, along with Big Ben it's one of the most recognizable landmarks in their whole country. I suppose though that NO MATTER WHAT is proposed there will ALWAYS be people who'll disagree with it just for the sake of disagreeing. The same exact thing happened with the Statue of Liberty, Eiffel Tower and the first Ferris Wheel ever at the 1889 Chicago Worlds Fair. There were a whole group of negative people who said the EXACT same things as these posters are saying back in 1889, that it was just going to be "one gigantic eye sore" that will never make enough money to even "pay for itself, let alone the fair." But the truth was that the Ferris Wheel was really the only reason why the 1889 fair turned a profit in the 1st place and if it wasn't there it's almost certain that the fair would have been a miserable failure.
So let all these naysayers have their moments of complaining because thats ALL they do anyways. That's what their lives are anyways, one complaint after the next, and lets just hope that after this project IS built these complaining b!tches wont fill the lines with the people who wanted it built in the first place. Or you can do what your kind HAS ALWAYS done, wait till it's finished and has become a success then go there yourself and ride it and then change your tune and tell everyone what a great project it has been and how you always knew it would be a success...
But I surely hope you wont change your opinion of it because someone has to keep the American tradition about b!tching about every little thing that goes on in our country, going because of course, it's the American Way...
Ummmmmm, I'll give you one guess dude.....
This guy obviously failed physics class...........
Hey, Tracy...editing, please!!! Oh, that's right. This is NBCNews.com, the place where no one knows the meaning of the words proofread or edit before publishing.
Build it!
WAKE UP PEOPLE! What will this "ferris wheel" do for us, or the city for that matter. They can barely repair our streets, and check out how many abandoned buildings are scattered all over this island. It's a danger, it's going to be in major disrepair in 5 years, and if anyone gets hurt, they will sue the city and who is responsible for paying that lawsuit, us! This guy from wall street is not going to do this without some financial return on the deal, and what will that be??? We are idiots if we think this is going to be a plus for our borough. Even before the storm hit, it was a bad idea. Now, what's wrong with living in reality and realizing that we will have another storm, and then what? It will fall down or be destroyed, like Seaside Heights roller coaster, and remain in the water ad infinitum. Or the taxpayers will have to get it fixed. ENOUGH! Fix our roads, and bring prosperity to all places in Staten Island. Molinaro got his way with the park being built on the dumpsite that is completely TOXIC, and that won't change. 10 years after they finish that park, there will be lawsuits filed because people will be sick. THIS CITY HAS ENOUGH CRAP TO ENTERTAIN PEOPLE, TELL WALL STREET TO BACK OFF.
@redbundy - Big Ben was for a reason - so people would know the time, it served a purpose, to keep all the citizens running on time including the businesses. This ferris wheel has NO PURPOSE at all except to build this guy's ego. I think it's the last thing they should be considering doing at this time.
Save Ferris
Instead of building a stupid ferris wheel, that will succumb to another tragedy sometime in the future, they should be discussing building a center for displaced people and animals from tragedies that befall a city.
Here's the deal, folks. The people of Staten Island DON"T WANT THE WHEEL. We didn't want it before Superstorm Sandy devestated 10,000 homes here, and we don't want it now.
This thing is being planted next to a white elephant stadium built less than 200 yards away from the proposed site in the last decade that is proving to be an economic failure. The contention is that the main transportation access for tourists will be our already inadequate ferry service used by tens of thousands of Islanders to commute to Manhattan jobs. There are exactly 4 lanes of traffic outside the site to carry buses and private vehicles, already snarled in traffic in boith morning and evening rush hours. There is inadequate commuter parking available now, and they are planning on adding no more than 150 spots once construction is complete.
Think about whether you would want this thing planted next to your train station, bus terminal or ferry dock. This is going to be planted nest to ALL THREE for us. We already have the longest commutes in the US. We don't want to become the world record holders.
Wow! What a bunch of nay sayers. Some wonder how our country has become in the shape it is in. With negative thoughts like many of these is there any wonder. What if this or what if that? If the dude has the money to build the darn thing and the land is available then why not?
Once in my area a new firehouse was preposed by the city and people actually came to a public hearing and raised holly hell about all the noise this would bring to their area. What? They built it anyway and it has caused no problems at all. Most were old people who would benefit from the medical services working out of that station. Many people just can't stand change. Their against what ever is being considered.
its a "wheel" waste of money,but its his money,so let him grease the wheels of the economy to get it done,i don't care too much for it but i do live on staten island ,and there is nothing much in that neighborhood anyway except a ferry terminal,baseball stadium ,court houses and a real scuzzy filthy NYPD 120 police station
redbundy you do realize that America didnt build the Statue of Liberty, only created the foundation for which it stands on. Big Ben, which i have seen personally is used for a purpose not just a building with a clock on it. So please get your facts correct before you post.
They just don't learn! How stupid can you be?
Why are people worried about wind? We have many ferris wheels in the area and none were knocked down during Sandy, or any other storm. If storms intensify in the future, then maybe. But as it is, no problem.
I find the location off. Who the hell builds on Staten Island?
I was thinking they could tell people it could be used to scoop up the water and throw it back into the sea during the next storm surge perhaps saving the island!
Terrible location and you can bet the developer lives no where close by.
Terrible location, huh ?
It's being built 2 feet over the flood zone, and Sandy was a once-in-a-lifetime occurrence. In the meantime, the local businesses will see MUCH more revenue from the influx of visitors.
These naysayers should just STFU.
Exactly. Once in a lifetime means once in a life time. When was the last storm to hit the upper east coast before Sandy. They said that the flooding that occurred was a hundred year or more event. Sandy was an extremely rare event.
@Houstonite - my gawd, did you even go to school? "Hundred year storm" doesn't mane it occurs every hundred years - it means it is the most destructive category of storm. Potentially, they could occur not only every year but several times a year. I know the schools in Texas are bad, but if you're an example, they are truly useless.
Having been through three 500 year flooding events, ( statistically speaking, " probability to occur once in 500 years " ), a once in a lifetime event is statistically a 100 year storm event ( probability to occur once in 100 years ).
Once in a lifetime doesn't mean, once in your lifetime mathematically. Just like it is rare for the temperature for the day in your region to be the exact normal temperature for that day, that season. I'm a far cry from being 1500 years old, even though I've been in 3, 500 year class flooding events. Study some statistics so you understand the meaning of the language of probabilities!
they are building it in the "WU TANG CLAN" hood of SINY
Actually the developer lives right across the water at the bottom of Manhattan.
This is a private project and will provide jobs in construction and jobs to work it. This project was in the works before the storm and rebuilding from the storm includes economic development. You can't put every project on hold and hope that everything comes out for the good. Tragedies happen every year and everyone comes together to rebuild and bring back a semblance of 'normalcy'. It takes time, persistence and more than a one-sided approach.
FloridaMaggie, you are wrong. A "hundred year storm" should statistically occur every one-hundred years. It's a pretty simple concept. Before you go badmouthing an entire state, you should know what YOU are talking about. Doesn't say much for YOUR state, now does it.
And it's "mean", not "mane". Didn't you go to school?
Maybe Jeff means a terrible location, as to where it is. That area is a bit run down, and not convenient unless you are from the area. I would have chosen a better spot. But, I predict the project will wind up getting cancelled before then.
@steve Don't let all those brains run out of your head. So she got it wrong. We all can't be perfect like you.
Perfect location! No where near anywhere I plan to go!
Stupid is as stupid does. (Not stupid for the developers of course because they stand to make a $hitload of money up until the time it gets destroyed, so they could care less).
you buy a car and most people drive it until it is done... you get your money's worth out of it. what's the difference?
Talk about hubris! Does the developer think Mother Nature wouldn't dare damage his precious oversized monument to stupidity? What a fool! Hurricanes are getting stronger and more frequent - and storm surges in the future will turn his big toy into a drowned white elephant. Can't believe the arrogance of today's billionaires.
And who's the idiot who'll risk insuring this Down syndrome, brain-dead mope's project?
This man wants to invest $500,000,000.00 in a devastated area and people want him to do more for them. Then they wonder why they move their companies overseas and build in less restrictive States. Good luck. Most places would be thrilled but the Liberals in New York want more until he yells Uncle and moves it to the South
Wow. If you're a female I would marry you on the spot for a comment like that. Actual common sense and belief in people having the right to do what they want with their own money? In this day and age? You are a rare bird indeed.
Staten Island is New York City's most Republican (and conservative) borough. The people complaining about the ferris wheel likely voted for Romney.
I'm with you on this one, compromise....100%
I doubt that most places would be "thrilled" to have a gargantuan ferris wheel erected on shoreline that is projected to incur more frequent storms with climate change. Some developers have way too much money to spend on frivolous fancies and lunatic ideas. I'm wondering if the ferris wheel wasn't second choice after his initial plan to erect a giant penis on the shoreline failed.
I guess you missed the part where this land was under four frickin' feet of water during the last storm. These storms are getting larger and more frequent. It's crazy enough to rebuild houses out there, let alone this monstrosity. I've never understood why anyone would build in a flood zone.
Well, I doubt that many people would be interested in riding a ferris wheel that was far inland. The main attraction of the huge ferris wheel will be the view.
So what if the area was under four feet of water? The water isn't the problem ... not being prepared for it is. If you design for storm surges (and anticipate that they will increase in height), there's no problem.
Big Ferris wheels are boring in my opinion. Sure, they go high, but it takes so long to load them that half of the time is spent sitting there waiting for people to get seated and buckled in. Stop. Go. Stop. Go. Put a little one in that fills up fast so you can actually enjoy the ride!
then don't ride it Eeyore!
you aren't even a glass half-full person... you are just a 'woes me' negative individual.
what about the view? the experience with a friend... oh whatever.. you wouldn't understand.
I just looked up the definition of "stupid" in the dictionary and found a reference to this plan. 'Nuff said.
idiot. 'Nuff said.
If he wants to spend 500 million on a big toy let him spend it. What local economy couldn't use half a billion dollars.
I doubt that he has to worry about the residents of Staten Island fearing the ferris wheel. They wouldn't be near it let alone on it during the next hurricane or nor' easter. However, I bet the Insurers and Investors don`t want to touch it with a ten foot pole given the possibility of future such storms taking the same path....... Irene in 2011..... Sandy in 2012..... "name" in 2013......
It can be DISMANTELED.. Ms. Doomsday.
Ever heard of Carnivals? The largest traveling Ferris Wheel comes to Houston every year during the Houston Livestock Show n Rodeo. It is HUGE.
This is a 625-foot ferris wheel and not a lego toy. It can not be dismantled in a few days. The 625-foot ferris wheel is about 150 times more massive than the Houston traveling Ferris Wheel you are talking about.
Developers love to built near the water because, they can sell their project for big profit. When we have a big storm, all those people near the coast will all cry out for help and demand billions from the tax payers for them to rebuild.
How can anyone be so trivial in face of so much needed help...that money could be better spent to help the people now...thinking of profit again? Like we need a big wheel...
It's HIS Money Lee. He can do what he wants with it.
Seems to me that investing in the area, creating jobs and new business will help rebuild the area.
lee-4178054, What you state is communist philosophy.
That money is being provided by a private developer and his investors for a profit-making venture. If they're not permitted to build the project, they're not going to donate $500MM to local relief efforts!
Building the project will help local recovery efforts, not hinder them.
Janine,how many jobs is this developer going to create with a Ferris wheel?Believe it or not he's in it for his own gain and not the community.
The worlds largest roller coaster should be build along side of it.
they should just build a subway to manhattan next to it ,we got no rail connection to NYC on staten island, would be cool if the subway was connected to it though :P
Mark, I was waiting for a Staten Islander to ask, is this right by the Verizano? Midland Beach?
The point that most won't get is, that it is HIS money to do with as he wishes. While I realize that most have bought into the "everything for everyone" scenario, people make their OWN money, and wish to keep their OWN money, not pay for everyone else simply because they were successful at getting said monies. You work for what you need, you save for what you want. There's a big difference between the two.
BUt he wants to build on PUBLIC land, you cretin - so the public has an interest and a say in his building. He can buy his own private land and then get a building permit to whatever he wants - but that shore line belongs to all the people (government), not just him.
JUST BECAUSE A RICH MAN WANTS TO BUILD SOMETHING DOES NOT MEAN IT IS A GOOD IDEA. SO MANY OF YOU ON THIS THREAD SEEM TO WORSHIP AT THE ALTAR OF THE WEALTHY - IF THE MAN HAS MONEY, ANYTHING HE SAYS MUST BE DONE.
Maggie ... maybe you have additional information, but I don't see in the article where it says that the land is public? In most of the northeast, shoreline is privately held.
Barry, there are a few spots along the Staten Island shore owned by the Gateway National Recreation Area, same as Sandy Hook. But I don't know for sure where this plan is. Looks like the Midland Beach area, and if so then it is public.
TFNJ ... I should've qualified my statement as "most land" is privately held. Of course, even if the land is public, the question needs to be if the concept is a good one. It shouldn't be held hostage to Sandy relief efforts, because they're not connected.
Barry, I know what you were saying, and you are right. My post was actually a new conversation, its just that I'm still in a fog over New Years eve and not being very clear today. lol
Woo-hoo. He's going ahead despite Sandy to build the biggest ferris wheel. Until, that is, the next hurricane blows through and destroys it. Dumbasz!
Cool, we get to watch a huge Ferris wheel topple into the sea! Just a matter of a few years before a hurricane, tornado, or flood gets to it.
NWO "Eye" Observation wheels for all major cities of the New World Order
He's another developer that wants to make his money and isn't really interested about the weather factors,the community or the view he is muddling.
Wait'll terrorists fly a 757 into it on a day when it's full of passengers! NYC will always be a target, so I've no need to ever go there. I'm quite safer here in the Old West where it's ok to carry a gun and I can still buy a 32 oz. Big Gulp or a 24 oz. can of Bud and eateries still have salt shakers plus it's ok to still light up my pipe almost anywhere. It's called Yankee Freedom,something you won't find in New York or California.
You'll be dead in a couple years with those habits...
This is ridiculous. Due to the ongoing global warming, the next big storm to hit that area will most likely be bigger than Sandy. I don't think this big wheel will stand much of a chance in that kind of storm.
I guess no one has heard about the process of "engineering". Maybe we should dismantle the Statue of Liberty because there is going to be a storm one of these days.
...Staten Island is the arsehole of NYC, so why not try to get people to come there and spend money, it won't hurt anything and may do some good......for all of you babbling about not building it because maybe there will be another storm????.....then don't build anything..... ever...... because eventually there will be another storm....but that is ridiculous thinking...
How about worrying about housing, food, sanitation, you know, the basics first.
Not to worry, if a storm does hit. They can just ask the government to fork over an extra billion. 500 millions to replace the ferris wheel and 500 millions for pork projects. The government then will raise taxes some more.